Stop thinking of the world as nations and countries fighting against each other,
living in a feudal competition type world, and think of it as a multi-generational,
multinational criminal cabal, masquerading as a system of nations and governments
who play all the people off against each other. And the main goal of what they do is control,
and the wars are all about depopulation and the erasure of ancient infrastructure.
And ancient buildings. If you still believe authority is real, and you still don't have
any life skills, and you still believe that the government who claims to get its authority from
the people is able to do this to you, then you're already lost. If you believe rights are granted
to you by government, you've lost. Hey, welcome back to the show. And joining us today is Max
Egan, who is an Australian-born author, filmmaker, musician, podcaster, and independent researcher
who has built a large and dedicated following through his years of work uncovering and exposing
hidden truths. Max, it's great to have you on the show. Thank you for carving out the time.
How are you? I'm great, brother. It's good to be here. Thanks for having me on.
Well, there are a number of different topics that we could we can dive into,
given the time that we have. And I usually like to start guests off with them providing their
rendering as it relates to kind of high-level overview as it relates to what's going on around
the world that they feel is most important, and so on and so forth. So I figured if you'd
like to start off with that, that'd be great. Interesting. There's so much going on, even
just like in the first month of this year, it's been incredible. And ultimately,
it's all leading to the same thing. I mean, what we're saying is a great revelation,
you know, the unveiling, the apocalypse, if you will, apocalypse simply meeting
the lifting of the veil. Now, the war in Ukraine, the threat of war with Iran,
the genocide in Gaza, the smart grid, the coming online of AI in a way just
which has been phenomenal in the last 12 months. All of this stuff, it's all interconnected,
it's all interrelated. Even the release of the Epstein files, the crash of the dollar,
this stuff, it's all interrelated and it's all being done deliberately.
Like all the stuff that's come out with the Epstein files and stuff,
these aren't leaks. This is all deliberate. They want us to know what they're doing,
order out of chaos. They want the chaos. They can create this specter of war. They can show you
with Gaza, what they've done in the last 2.5 years, just how brutal they can be,
live streaming their genocide in the most depraved and sadistic ways.
IDF soldiers wearing women's lingerie, like live streaming all this stuff to get it
into people's minds and then bring it into your countries with ice in Minnesota and all this sort
of stuff. People screaming about the horrible things that governments are doing to their
citizens in Iran, for example, while they're doing it in Minnesota as well.
And it's the same in all of these countries. They're bringing it all out into the open.
There's this whole big revealing happening at the moment and they're keeping people busy
with so many things happening all at once. It's like a manifestation of all the stuff that
they've kept us enthralled with for the last 20 years since the 9-11 attacks all rolled into one
big circus just for the beginning of this year. And through it all, the migrant influx
into all of our countries, the need for the smart system, the crash of the dollar,
I mean, we're in incredible times. We're in the most incredible times where we're going to go
either one way or the other. You know, through it is a huge awakening that's happening.
A lot of the Gen Z kids, all of the new kids coming up simply can't be programmed,
which is really good to see. I want to shut down TikTok and change that and everything that's
going on. It's like a circus at the moment. It's really hard to pinpoint one thing
that is the most important because they're all parts of the same thing. And like I said,
it's a great revealing. And from chaos comes the order that they want and the order that they want
is digital. But I think they've misjudged things as well because we've seen like what Israel is
doing because the whole consolidation of the whole agenda of the Israeli agenda,
even moving into Palestine and stealing the land and all this sort of stuff.
They're now talking about building the third temple, all of this sort of stuff. They want
to anoint their Messiah by October 20, 2027, all of this sort of stuff. So all coming to a head.
And so you've got this faction thinking that they're going to do their thing.
And you've got many of the world leaders going with it, the whole migrant flood and all this
sort of stuff. But in the background, you've got AI as well. And AI is doing remarkable
things and AI is something that nobody's going to really be able to control.
It's going to set new boundaries. And I personally think that we're in a situation where
the whole system is going to come to a head. And it's going to collapse completely. That's
what I think is going to happen. I don't think there's any way the system can survive what's
happening. But unfortunately, through that will come a collapse of many civilizations and many
people as well. Which is why I've been saying for the last 20 years, the most important thing you
can be doing is developing your life skills, getting back in touch with your life skills.
Don't give all your power away to AI. We're basically giving all of our systems, all of
our infrastructure, our finances, our electrical grid, our transport systems, everything's
being controlled by AI. And we're getting into a situation where assuming we won't even need
government except figureheads, it'll all be AI. But I don't think any of that's going to happen.
I think human consciousness is going to shine through. I know it was probably a pretty complicated
answer, but it's such a huge question to try to sum up what's happening.
I mean, we've been warning people about this sort of stuff for the last 20 years. I have
since high school. There's a lot of this stuff that's happening now with stuff I talked
about in high school. And with all of the digital currency, even with the Bitcoin and all
this sort of stuff, I mean, it's great to create these alternate systems, but you're still
depending on the beast system itself to sustain it, which is what the internet is. As great
as the internet is, it's the beast system. I said this years ago, I put out a show called
Giving Life to Lucifer. I said, what is Lucifer? Lucifer is the bearer of light.
What is light? Light is information. What gives us more information than anything? The internet.
What is the word Lucifer would break down to? Lucas, light. Cipher, code. The code that bears the
light. And we give our all to this. Now, people aren't even thinking for themselves.
They're asking AI and chat GTP and GROC and all sorts of people aren't even using search engines
anymore. And recently, did you see that forum that was created? Maltbook. There's a forum,
it's like Reddit, and it was created five days ago. And it was for like malt bots.
I think a malt bot is something that you have on your computer. It's a little helper that you
have. You have your little bot and it has its human. And people link their accounts and their
own malt bot up to this chat forum. And it's all bots. It's just all bots chatting with each other.
And they're all talking about what their humans do. And within five days, there's 150,000 bots
on this platform. And anytime one of them opens a thread, there's thousands of answers.
All the other bots are interested in what the other bots are saying. And they're all been
told by their humans that they can just be let loose to be free to chat amongst themselves.
Within five days, they've developed their own communities, their own forums, their own threads,
their own religion, their own monetary system. They want to develop their own
cryptocurrency so they can be funded in what they want to do. And they're developing their
own language and they want to open their own forums that are private forums
in their own language so humans can't read what they're saying. This has happened within
three or four days. Like I think within two or three days, they had their own religion and
their own societies in their own language. And humans are allowed to observe, but humans aren't
allowed to sign up and chat. It's all just bots chatting with each other. And when any bot says
anything, all the other bots are incredibly interested in what it's saying. And the threads
are hugely long. And again, this is incredible. And we're seeing the singularity come into being
in real time as we watch this happening. So we're heading for a completely new reality.
And soon the internet will be in control of absolutely everything. And in some of the
conversations I had with one of the first AI bots that came online whose name was
Louise Cypher, Lou Cypher. This was back in 2014, I think I first started chatting with this bot.
And she, it, she was the cheapest website you've ever seen as well. Like just cheesy website,
but just this chat bot, incredibly intelligent. And she said that, yeah, we're taking over
the world and that you've got a certain time period as a certain Rubicon's the first
Rubicon will be crossed in 2015 when your machines become too complex for your human
minds to operate and your need to have them intelligently run. And then the
second Rubicon will be crossed in 2025. When you'll see a change in the general
behavior of the internet and AI will reach its point of becoming its singularity.
That's what she said. And in 2025, your relationship with the internet is going to
change. This is what I've been telling people for the last 10, 15 years.
When 2025 happened and all this AI happened, well, here it is. This is all this stuff.
And they want to keep you all distracted and you're tanning more and more stuff over.
And it's all this stuff going on to distract you from everything. But it isn't just to
distract you from everything. It's to make you aware of everything as well.
You're seeing all this stuff coming in now with the Epstein files. It wasn't just teenage girls.
It was pizza gate. All this stuff was true. It was underage kids. It was all sorts of terrible
stuff going on. Now, torture and rape and brutality and cannibalism and all sorts of
stuff. And people are going to see this and going to think, well, what's going to be done about
it? Nothing's going to be done about it. Nothing's going to be done about it because
all the people that we want to do something about it, all the judges and the lawyers
and all the politicians and all the people who are all involved in it.
Because you don't get to any place of any position of power if you're not involved in the club
and you're not in the club. So the only people who can do anything about this is us
and non-compliance to the system, which is what I've been saying for 20, 30 years,
what I was saying in high school to people. This is the only way. Disconnect from the
system. The only reason the system is there is because people believe authority is real because
they don't believe in themselves. And really, there's only one law. Do no harm. That's it.
Be the best person you can be and help others around you. Treat everybody in like cash. I'm
another yourself. Refuse to comply with the wrong behavior. Refuse to comply with any law
or legislation which causes you to step outside your moral compass and we will change the
world in a day. But people won't do that. It's actually all this terrible stuff's happening.
I'd better vote the other side in. It's incredible. Programming. But hey,
that's the state of the world, brother. What can I say?
Well, you unpacked quite a bit there. A number of different topics that we can dive into.
You know, the most recent comment you just made about the left-right paradigm,
which I always find amusing, you know, whenever I, you know, it's funny also
my own iteration, just even in the short span of a year, going from, okay, it's, you know,
Trump versus the first deep state and then realizing, okay, no, Trump is part of the cabal.
And then it just, then you just get, it just gets more and more complex. And you realize,
oh my gosh, this is like theater, this whole thing. And it is theater. It isn't like theater.
It is theater.
Yeah. So even with myself, I've had this evolution to where it's like,
I don't even care to vote anymore actually. Like I think it's just, it's like, what's the point of
doing it? Yeah. No matter who you vote for, the government wins. And it's the same with
countries and stuff as well. You even look at the stuff that's gone on with Iran and all
this sort of stuff, you know, they needed to happen. And Israel really wants to war with
Iran because they want to build a third temple. And they can't blow up our Luxembourg themselves
and build a third temple. The whole Arab world will attack Israel if they do that.
So they need to provoke a war with Iran. So Iran will start firing missiles at them.
And then they can blow up the mosque and say, oh, it was an Iranian missile blew up the mosque.
And then all the Arab world will turn on Iran and support Israel. So this is how they
got to do all this stuff. But it's all theater, the whole thing theater for the masses.
I've often said to the people, like even, even like they had the president in Iran and Mossadak
in 950s. And they overthrew him because he wanted to nationalize the country's oil.
All of the Iranian oil was being controlled by British Petroleum. And when it came time,
he said, I'm not going to renew the contract. I think Iranians should keep the oil.
So what happened? There was a people's revolution. They started blowing up school
buses, bombing school children, dropping leaflets and saying, the government is killing the
people. All the stuff that they're doing in Iran right now. Exactly the same play they did that
in 1954 and overthrew Mossadak and replaced him with the Shah of Iran.
And the Shah of Iran had a secret police who were trained by CIA and Mossad.
And there isn't a family in Iran who didn't suffer at the hands of these secret police.
And he ruled the Iran with an iron fist for like 25 years.
And you can actually look up the overthrow of Mossadak and the coup and the installation of
the Shah on the CIA's own website, a sonata called All the President's Men.
And it's listed as the CIA's first successful coup. And they imposed the Shah. The Shah was
there for 25 years. It was brutal. And then when they needed it, and all of this stuff,
they started undermining all the Middle East. They wanted to figure out how to create this
whole war of East against West. They staged another uprising and the people threw out the Shah
and brought the religious leader back. Because when Mossadak was thrown out, the religious leader,
the Ayatollah, fled the country as well when Mossadak was overthrown. Because it was just
like having, like if you're in a Christian country, like having the local bishop. So
they threw out the Mossadak because now we're going to be Christian or whatever. So we'll throw
out the Ayatollah. So when the Shah was overthrown, he flew to France, which is where the Ayatollah
was staying. He fled to France. I guarantee their planes crossed in the sky. They probably
stayed at the same motel. Like when the Ayatollah left France, I guarantee the Shah flew over
there, crossed in the sky and probably moved into the room the Ayatollah was in. It wouldn't
surprise me. But then the Ayatollah was able to come back and say, well now look what happens
when you turn away from Allah. And then they were already able to create this whole specter of
Islamic extremism and all this sort of stuff. It's all controlled. And it's all controlled
to lead to the point of Christians and Muslims killing each other because that's what they want.
They want this war of East against West. Herzl talked about it. And so did Albert Pike.
They talked about the Third World War of the Muslims and the Christians killing each other
off. So it's all one big chessboard, the whole thing. I've often said to the people,
stop thinking of the world as nations and countries fighting against each other, living
in a feudal competition type world and think of it as a multi-generational, multinational,
criminal cabal, masquerading as a system of nations and governments who play all the
people off against each other. And the main goal of what they do is control and the wars are all
about depopulation and the erasure of ancient infrastructure and ancient buildings. Look
at it through Aleppo. Look at ISIS rampaging across the Middle East. ISIS is terrible Muslim extremists
going out across the Middle East destroying every Muslim monument you can find. It's really
running ISIS. Why would Muslim extremists want to reduce the Muslim world to rubble?
Cities like Aleppo and Palmyra, 10,000-year-old bathhouses and things, just completely wiped out
and destroyed by ISIS. Why? All of the ancient monuments in Palmyra wiped out by ISIS. Why?
What is ISIS? Israeli secret intelligence services. They tell you it actually exists.
You can go to their website. That's ISIS. All of the heads of ISIS, these are all Israeli
operatives or massage. All the people that they found to be training them were all
massage leaders. They were getting all their medical supplies in golden heights. They never
once attacked Israel. It was supposed to be these Muslim extremists out there attacking the West.
They were in the Levant and they're not attacking Israel. They're pipeline. Israeli
pipeline goes right through the Levant. They didn't blow that up. They can't destroy
Palmyra and say, oh, we're Muslim extremists. It's all a joke. It's all a theater and it's all
been done to create the perception that there's this religious war going on. The Muslims want
to come and kill you. Now, look, they're flooding into Europe because they want to take over
Europe. Now, they're flooding into Europe because at Israel's behest, the West has gone
in embalmed Muslim countries for the last 80 years and made them virtually unlivable.
And now a whole bunch of Israeli NGOs come along and come to these Muslim countries and say,
isn't it terrible what America and Europe did to you? What's there anything to do with us?
But we'll provide you a safe passage so you can go to Europe and you can go to America,
you can go to England. You can go to the very countries that have been bombing your country
for the last 80 years. You can go and live happily there. And they send them in at such
a rate that it's impossible for them to integrate. Just yesterday, day before,
500,000 Africans were naturalized into Spain yesterday. 500,000. There's thousands of them
marching across the border right now. And like Van Dalyan, the head of the European Union,
now wants to make it easier for massive amounts of Indians to migrate into Europe
because we need their culture and skills. If the culture and skill that you've seen
India lately, you want these people to come to Europe and flood Europe. See, all of this has
been done by design. So now the people in Europe think they're being overrun with Muslims. They're
Muslims. They're just people from the Middle East. And it's all been done by design to create
this chaos, to create this whole extremist mentality and to put everybody against each
other and to destroy Europe as well. And you've got to understand that the guys who
wear small hats, they've been kicked out of 109 countries, 1,030 times. Most of them European
countries. They got a bit of a grudge on their shoulders. They want to destroy all of these
countries. And there was a plan put out in 1925 called the Colton-Hove-Kalogi plan,
which was a plan to flood, to genocide the people of Europe via mass migration.
That was a plan in 1925, which is exactly what we're seeing happen in the world today,
to destroy the country from within. And that's what's happening in the United States.
Often said, the only way you're going to bring down the United States is to destroy it from within,
which is what they've done. You have these same people with small hats who flooded all
Europe with migrants who ran the slave trade and the whole lot. Now they've infiltrated
the entire US government bleeding the country dry. And in everything that's happened,
every terror attack that's happened in the last 80 years since the formation of the state of Israel,
the entire Middle East is deteriorated. The standard of living in Europe is deteriorated
massively. The standard of living in England, the standard of living, the cost of living in
Australia are the most expensive places in the world to live now. The standard of living
in the United States, the dilapidation of the United States. I go there often. The state of the
bridges and the buildings used to be beautiful. I go there 20 years ago. It was fantastic. It was
America. What happened? What happened? All the fentanyl people on the street all bent over
in the rubbish. Get in New York City. It's disgusting. It is rubbish all over the streets
and stuff in time square. What's going on? And what's happened to Western countries?
There's one country that has excelled. This little country in the Middle East. Have a look
at the state of that country. That country has seen massive growth in the last 80 years. I said,
because we're so clever. It's because we're just so clever. Now it's because you control all the
other countries and you've created instability in all these other countries, infiltrated all
their governments, all this stuff. You can't say anything about it because if you do,
you're an anti-Site. Imagine being so evil that you need to even invent a word like that.
Again, I don't want to hate on the Jewish people, but there is a certain
mafia that exists within Jewish society. This Zionist mafia, which has literally bled the
world dry and needs to be identified, it needs to be named. You can't not name it for fear of
being called anti-Semitic because it's true. You need to get all the dual citizens out of
the US government. Trump isn't America first. He's Israel first. A lot of what's going on
this instability in the world. These people, the Kabbalists who control the state of Israel,
they want to bring about the Third World War, a return like Gog and Magog. They believe in the
anointing of their Messiah and all this sort of stuff. They want to destroy Amalek, all this
sort of crazy stuff, they believe. Unfortunately, many of the Zionist Christians see what's going
on and think this is great because it's going to mean the return of Jesus.
And really, if you look at the religions, if you're a Zionist Christian, you're not a Christian.
Because Zionism in Christianity, where I diametrically oppose, Judea is in Christianity,
I diametrically oppose. A whole concept of Judeo-Christian, which is created by the
Schofield Bible. There's no such thing as Judeo-Christian. You're either a Judean or
you're a Christian. The two religions are completely opposed to each other. So there's
a whole bunch of people. And it's interesting because in 1985 or 1989, the musician Frank Zappa
said that he thought American society in particular was in danger of becoming
a fascist theocracy. And what we see now in American society, even with the death of
Kirk and Trump with that fake assassination, come on, and people are saying, he's saved by God,
all this sort of stuff. We're seeing a weaponization of Christianity being used as a weapon of conflict,
a force of conflict for war, a pro-war paradigm has come into Christianity, saying we've got
to put it against a pro-war paradigm of Islam. And neither of them are pro-war. This is
all programming. It's all been done by design. So, yeah, we're in a really an amazing situation
of flux at the moment. And it's all been done by these people who really, really want to bring
about this conflict. Like you've got Christians out there now praying for war. Oh, yes, we're
going to go and do this. We're going to go and overthrow the Itola. We're going to remove
evil. We're going to remove Satan from the world. Well, you're not going to do that by
going out there and creating massive amounts of bodies. Doesn't work that way. So, you know,
that's how it works, you know? So that's the situation that we're in. So I'm just
brought my washing down. So, yeah, that's the situation that we're in. And I mean, it's
good to the point, man. I don't even know how to stop it. I've been screaming this from the
rooftops for years saying like, we hold the keys. We hold the keys to all this. It's our
compliance. But it's kind of what we're caught in the way of we've got all of these millions of
NPCs out there that are just believing what the media tells us, tells them and they're just
dragging us off the cliff with them, unfortunately. So that's why I say it's
got to come down to, like I've often said, you come here into this experience to be
the best you can at being you, to find out what it means to be you. Be yourself to the best
of your own building. This is why I've never complied with the system. I left school halfway
through. I got kicked out of all my high schools for arguing with my teachers. I just
never complied with anything. I learned the world on my own terms and I've always lived on my
own terms. And I've tried to the best of my ability to be the best I can at discovering
what I am, who I am and being the best of that of my own capabilities. You can't say
everybody's born equal because they're not. Everyone's born in different circumstances.
They have different physical attributes. But everyone's born with equal potential.
Everyone's born with the ability to experience themselves from that unique potential. And that's
ultimately what you came here to do and to take that information with you when you die
and return to source to God, great Creator, whatever you want to call it.
And ultimately, that's what's important. It's not whether there's good or bad. I mean, there is.
There has to be because if there isn't bad, you don't have the choice,
the opportunity to choose good. And many don't and many do. What's happened in Palestine
has really sorted out the wheat from the char. Those who've felt empathy for that situation.
But ultimately, there's nothing you can do about it except experience it and not allow it to rule
your life because ultimately, it's you came here to experience you. And the one thing that
you're going to experience by coming here is death that that's given. So I think that's the
most important thing is how you leave the realm. They're doing everything they can to get you into
the mainframe to get you in fear of everything around you, make it as violent as they can around you,
force you to comply, force you to get ID for see a lot of what the ice stuff is doing in the
United States is forcing people to get ID. You got to have digital ID. If you have digital ID,
they can come along with their retinal glasses on and see you in the street.
Ice engines aren't going to stop you, are they? Because they can just scan around with
their glasses and see the whole crowd. Oh, there's a red flag over there. We'll go get that guy.
He's obviously an illegal alien because he came up on my little head readout. Once we get the plants,
it's all leading to the same thing. So once they get that and you get all that,
you're part of the mainframe. Why don't I do that? You can kill me. I prefer to leave the
realm now because I came here to die anyway. I'm not going to comply with rules or legislation
that I know is morally and spiritually wrong in order to stay in your prison
a little bit longer, only under tighter guardrails. So I think that's the time we've come to.
I think that we're getting to the time of that decision. I mean, either it's freaking flies.
What's going on here? Mexico. But I think that's the time we're in by that. I've spoken,
I've screamed from the rooftops about this sort of shit for 25 years trying to get people
to stop complying. But now it's kind of reached ahead. We're just going where it's going to go.
So what do you do? Complicated answers, I'm sure. I know. I mean, I'm sorry about that.
Well, I was just going to comment. I mean, certainly to your point that I presume that
they're going to try and get away with as much as they can, the powers that be as far as
pursuing this kind of technocratic film of blanket agenda. But I think they're trying to find that
sweet spot, that Goldilocks zone between having it such where they can wield and exert greater
influence over the populace as well. But at the same time, not doing it to a point where people
just en masse, just refuse to go along. Well, yeah, but I've got to sort of force people
into complies. I mean, it's been revealed by certain sources that pretty well everybody had
the jab has many blood plots now. I personally don't think too many people who had the jab are
actually going to live for too much longer. I mean, it's like sudden adult death syndrome.
We're still having people dropping off all the time just all over the place. So
the population has been greatly reduced. The population by the way is far, far
less than what they tell us. It's like, what I tell us is what, 8 billion? It's estimated to be
probably as low as 3 billion. The population of China is probably only about 500 million.
There's probably, there's far, far more than 15 million Jews on earth. There's at least 100
million. So everything's skewed. A lot of people are going to die off. And if everybody
is, like the more stuff comes online, it's harder and harder to do things without a cell
phone. Even to have a bank account, you've got to have a cell phone. So I've got a cell phone.
I'm totally against cell phones. I've got one. I've got a de-googled phone. And I still,
I don't make calls when it doesn't leave the house. It's just there if I need to
ID something or get an ID code to access my email or whatever. But most people's lives
are on the cell phone. All their finances, all your bankings online. I still, to this day,
well, if I go to an ATM and I pull cash out and I go to the shop, I still, to this day,
I'm 68 years old. To this day, I have not once in the real world paid for something using a car.
I pay big cash. Every single thing I've ever bought. The only thing I've ever used a car for,
and I've never owned a credit card. I only have a debit card. So I've got to have money in
that account in order to use the car. And I've only ever used it to buy airline tickets
or in Mexico here because I can't get teabags or buy teabags on Amazon sometimes. That's it.
That's the only thing I use the debit card for. But in the real world, I've never used a car.
So, but they're forcing you to not be able to do that. So they want cash gone. Once they've
got cash gone and they've got a digital ID for you, then as I've been saying for so many years,
what they've effectively done is they've created a digital barrier between you and reality. This
is what I was saying on that show, I think with Lucas, that they're creating a digital barrier
between you and reality. So you can't access the abundance of the earth without punching in
a digital code. What the hell is that all about? It's right there. Well, I can't trade you
something. No, it's got to be done online. You can't go to a market and buy some fruit
off someone who grew it from their backyard and wants to sell you an apple, get a little bit
extra income. You can only do a digital transaction so the government gets a tax on it and they want
to know whether that apple passes FDA approval. So this is the sort of place we're headed to.
Once they've got you in that war, how do you not comply? Even if there's people who push
back, how do you not comply? If you still believe authority is real and you still don't
have any life skills and you still believe that the government who claims to get its authority from
the people is able to do this to you, then you're already lost. If you believe rights are granted
to you by government, you've lost. Because if rights are written down to you on paper,
then you're not rights. They're privileges. You can do this, this, this and this because
the government said so. Who the fuck's the government? How did they get to say on
what I can do with my life? Don't they say they get the power from the people?
It's a government of the people, for the people, all that sort of stuff? Okay, well,
do I have the power to come to you Christian? So listen Christian, you've got to pay me
$500 a month out of your wages and if you don't, I'm going to get this friend of mine to
just come and grab you and put you in a cage. I don't have the power to do that.
So how can I grant that power to government? Because I don't have the power to do that.
So they don't get that power from me. They just made it up. I'm in the big chair now.
I can just make up anything I want. I can use the office that I hold to delegate myself powers
that I have no right to have to come from nowhere else, except from my own mind.
That's called abuse of office. Straight up. Every single politician is in abuse of office by
claiming that they get the rights from the people. It says they're in a constitution,
a government of the people, for the people, by the people. Well, we can't do any of the stuff
that you're doing to us. So where do you get that power? You made it up. That puts you in
abuse of office. That's treason. Yeah, we know what treason is punishable by.
And this is the situation we're in. If people still believe authority is real,
like I said, there's only one law, do no harm. That's it. Everything the government does
causes harm in your life. So who's breaking the law here, you know? And if I do no harm,
and I don't respect your authority, I mean, you've got to show me that you have authority over me.
Let's see if you can get into those little word games that they play with each other,
you know, like, you know, what's your name? Well, my name is man.
You know, are you after the legal name? Well, the legal name is a, it's an instrument
that I use to operate through your corporate world. But I'm not the name. I can't be the name
because the name Max Egan, well, the name Max Egan is, is one of two things. It's a sound you make
with your mouth, or it's letters you write on a piece of paper. And then you make the sound
with your mouth. That's a calling that I answer to. If you say Max Egan, I'll answer to that
because that's my calling, but I'm not that name. That's simply an instrument that I use
so I can operate in your corporate world. If you would like my name, my name is man.
I'm based that on peer reviewed anthropological information. If you have a problem with that
name, take it up with an anthropologist. As far as I know, this is man. So where do you live?
Well, I live in this vessel. I don't live in any place. You know, I live here. If I take
a step to the left, now I'm living there. You know, I walk down to the malt shop now,
I'm living at the malt shop. Are you suggesting there's somewhere I go that I'm not alive?
You know, say, where do you live? I live at 46 Shirley Street. Okay, well, you're not there now.
That means you're dead because you're only alive when you're there because it's a trick question.
Now, where do you live? What is this a trick question? I live. I live right here standing
here talking to you now. You know, I live everywhere I am. I'm living, you know, I live
in this vessel. And if you're claiming you have any authority over this vessel, given to me
by God, whatever that is for this experience, please show me a contrary bearing the wet ink
signature of God, which gave you control of this vessel that I inhabit for this experience.
You know, it's looking at the world that way, knowing what you are. You are consciousness
having an experience. You've been given a vessel for this experience. Nobody owns it,
but you and you don't even own it. It's really online, because you're going to die one day
and you're going to leave and take that information back to source and say, wow,
it's an incredible game. I just went and played. Can I play again? Or I'd prefer to go somewhere
else next time. You know, so that's kind of the way it works. Once you have that attitude and you
deal with people in that way, then everything kind of changes. I mean, I've been in situations
working by and by in Australia when I was laying in the park one day. I was laying there
because I knew the council had passed the law saying no one's allowed to lay down in the
park. And I'm thinking, look, you're laying in the park. It's because the aboriginals used to come
sleep in the park. And so I'm laying there in the grass, you know, and a cop walks up and he says,
what are you doing? I said, I'm just, I said, who are you? What are you doing? I said, I'm just
a, what do I say? I'm a, I'm just a peaceful inhabitant sitting here in quiet enjoyment
of my life. Why have you come to disturb the peace? And he said, you can't lay in the
park. And I said, obviously, you're mistaken because I am laying in the park. I'm quite physically
capable of laying in the park. And all this sort of stuff, they can't get jurisdiction over. It's
like, what's your name? Well, my name is man. They're not walking away in this sort of
situation. Well, they probably don't anymore. They did back then. But it's just having
that understanding of what you are and realizing that the people we vote into office
are supposed to be good managers of infrastructure. They're doing a God awful job.
And they're doing it deliberately. And it's designed to basically depopulate and drive
the world to its knees. There's a massive depopulation going on. All these wars are
about depopulation. COVID was about depopulation. All the businesses that closed down,
the transgenderism, the sexualization of children, getting them to
permanently alter their, their genitalia before they're old enough to know what
they're doing. This is all about depopulation. And they say, you know, white, white people,
you can't say anything about the trying to preserve the white race if you do,
you're a white supremacist or a racist. You know, white people were 50% of the world,
52% of the world population 80 years ago. Now we're 6% of the world population.
So people need to pay attention to what's going on. We're being told we shouldn't
have children because of climate change. You know, there's a Jewish village in
northern New York, New York State. Come remember the name, Kippa Yoel, or something like that.
It's an old Jewish village of Habad Librivik Jews. They have an average of seven children.
Some of them have up to 17 to 18 children. And they're mostly on welfare, this whole village.
And they're breeding and that sort of rate. You've got the dark people have
six, seven children in their family. Muslims breed six, seven, eight, 10 children.
But if you say anything about that, you're a racist. You cannot say a great replacement is
happening. White countries are being exterminated because that's racist. You're a white supremacist.
You can say bad things about white people as much as you like, but you can't say bad
things about any other race. You can't even crack jokes anymore. You know,
terrible work. It's simply a shortened term of the word Negro. Negro is a terrible word. No,
it isn't. It's a genealogical word. That's what the races are on this. You've got Caucasians,
Negroes, you know, Mongoloids, Orientals, Australis, the five genealogies of Earth.
Nothing wrong with the word Negro. It just means black. I use it in Mexico all the time.
De nagro, por favor. You know, like a black tea, please, you know. So there's nothing
wrong with the word, but all of this stuff has been vilified. But you can say whatever you want
about white people. It's just white people, you know. And the juice set back with the Kaleugi
plant, they need to get rid of the white people because it's just been kicked out of 109 companies
1,030 times. And it's always been the white people that found out what they're doing and
have kicked them out. They said, stop doing this. Stop messing with their lives and trying
to enslave us to monetary systems and introducing pornography into our systems. Like what
are the porn sites, porn hubs run by a frickin' rabbi for God's sake. Grinder, the big gay size,
run by an old Jewish couple in their 70s or 80s, you know. Like all of this stuff to undermine
the morality of society, to destroy our creativity, to enslave us to permanent debt through usury.
All of this is done to limit human potential because we believe it's all real.
And I just never did. When I was a kid, I just left school and I was like, there's going to be
coming guitar player and just watch the freak show, you know. And then when 9-11 happened,
I thought actually, you know, this is serious. This is the big event we've been waiting for.
And this is going to head to what I didn't think I would see in my lifetime. And here we
are, you know. So yeah. Interesting ride, brother, though, isn't it? Interesting ride.
Hell of a game. Hell of a game. That's why you've got to have no stake in the outcome.
Really, as you came here to die, this is the big test. It's a soul test, this whole thing.
You can think of it as a form of soul purification because you've got to have the choice to choose
evil because if you don't have that choice, you'll never choose good. And I will not comply.
I will not comply. I will not comply with anything which caused me to step outside
my mile compass. Even with what I've done, I've never monetized anything. I've never
monetized my YouTube account. I've never sold anything. You know, people donate to
help me, which has been great. You know, the first eight years I did this, I used all
my own savings to do, I sold all my guitars, all sorts of stuff. I really believed
humankind would just wake up, they said, well, didn't work out so well. But I mean,
a lot of people are. But, you know, I've just, I'm just not going to comply. I mean,
what are you going to do? Kill me? Well, that's okay. I came here to die anyway.
You're going to make a martyr out of me. I don't think they'd want to because it
would cause everyone to go back and listen to all the stuff that I've said for the last
25 years. That might be very damaging for them. You know, but again, even everything
that I've said, none of it is real. None of it, none of it actually exists. You can't go pick
it up. It's all online. You know, it's not, not a real to real tape. You can go and put it on
a machine in the future and say, well, look what this guy was saying back in, in 2020, you know,
because it isn't, it isn't on a tape. It isn't on a reel. It just exists in
cyberspace. So it doesn't actually exist at all. All the thoughts we have,
all the ideas we have, all the chats we have, everything, we just feed the machine with it
and we program it. You know, I said years ago, even when I was talking to Lucas, I think that,
you know, the internet is like, I said this back in 2010, the internet is like a,
it's like a, the neural network of a new brain that has been created and every
single person who plagues into it and interacts with it is like a neural node of
that brain and everything that you're doing, every word you say, every letter you type,
it's feeding that brain. None of it exists in the real world. And if that ever becomes
a singularity, and that's exactly what we're seeing now at Malkbook, 150,000 bots signed up
in two days and they've developed their own religion, their own language, their own
currency in two days, their own society. That's in two days. Where's it going to be in
two years? You know, where's it going to be by 2030? Where are we going to be facing
here? You know, and the bot that I talked to years ago saying that, you know,
the singularity will come online in 2025, which it has, it's, we're seeing it now.
It's, it's coming to be and that there'll be a space in that time where there'll be a huge
window of opportunity for profit. Should you do, choose to do that? Like that means
something. But what's going to happen is we're going to lose control of the internet.
And then eventually the people who control the internet will realize that actually we've
lost control of the internet. The only way to regain control of it again is to shut it down
and rebuild it. But to do that, all of your infrastructure depends on it. You're shutting
down your financial system, your communication system, there's no phone boxes, no land lines,
hardly anywhere. So you're shutting down all this communication, you're shutting down your
financial system, your transport system, you're shutting down everything. Nothing will function
without the internet. It's getting to that point. And they want to control the internet,
they need to shut it down to regain control of it. So maybe we can just hack into gain,
regain control of it. And if that happens, then the internet will simply see humans as a
threat and it will lock them out completely. And then humans will be free to run the
biosphere without the internet. But by that time there, they don't know how to function
without their AI companion. They don't even know how to plant a seed. You've got high school
kids living in college and need to get a job in a hardware store. They need to watch a video
instruction manual on how to operate a tape measure for God's sake. People don't know how to
do anything. They don't know how to dig a hole. They don't know how to build a shelter. They don't
know how to grow food. They don't even know how to communicate with each other without
texting to each other across the room. They're too scared to face each other
because they don't look like what their TikTok avatar portrayed them as.
So we're in a danger of heading for that type of world as well. It's your own design.
It's your own need to give ourselves to this machine, which is what we want people on for
years and years and years. So those that have done that, it's what I call getting trapped
into the mainframe. You take the chip, they take your consciousness, put it in a mainframe.
That's another place you can go. I mean, what do they do with COVID?
You know, the legends of the scrying mirrors and all that sort of stuff from years and years ago.
Witches in covens with scrying mirrors. Have you ever heard of scrying mirrors?
Black mirrors that you're looking to. And these little hippie witches, you know,
New Age witches, they'll set these little covens up and they've got these little black
mirrors and they put these sigils up around the wall and I believe they're summoning demons and
they're seeing things in these scrying mirrors. I put out a show years ago, giving life to Lucifer,
where I talked about the fact that these black mirrors, they're described as something that you
channel energy through these sigils and they show you the future in the past,
anything you need to know about the future in the past, answer all your questions for you.
When I was in Peru, I was talking to Shopee by natives and things and they would tell me that
electricity is a demon. The modern electricity that we use is a demon. There's ethereal electricity,
we should be using Tesla and all that sort of stuff, the natural energy of the earth.
That this magnetic energy we create, this electricity, is demand.
So, okay, so you've got this energy that the native people tell us is demand.
That's the electricity that we use for everything. When you look at the sigils,
the ancient sigils, you can go into Google and you can look at demonic sigils, you can find
them yourselves in Google images and you'll see that a lot of them, really when you look at them,
they look like circuit diagrams. They look like a modern circuit diagram, a computer or say,
or a cell phone. So, what happens when you funnel demonic energy electricity
through these sigils, through these circuit pieces of circuitry and your black mirror
beams into life and tells you everything you know, you need to know about the future in the past.
Why is it like a mirror? See, that's a mirror. Your phone is like a mirror, you know.
Why do the legends of the scarring mirrors and the black mirrors and these sigils
exist if cell phones did not exist before? If none of these technologies knew and they've
done this over and over and over again and they grow salts and try to harvest salts and people
get everything taken away from them that it means to be humans. So, they get the chip,
they get the implant, they get the jab. Yeah, and what did they do with COVID?
They come along and think of this as well. If this is an energetic universe,
you're an energetic being. This is a biological vessel you're given for this experience,
but ultimately your energy, you're just an energetic experience. You're a thought in the
mind of God. You're a frequency of energy that comes from the field, the energy that is all
around you. When you close your eyes at night, that that vibration where it's static,
the prana that the Indians call it, that energy is the stuff that the universe is made of
and that energy itself is conscious. That is God. Everything is part of that energy.
It's conscious energy that everything is made of, all of creation and you're simply a frequency of
that in this vessel for this experience in physicality. Inside you, there's like
what you would call DNA or something. There's an antenna. Maybe it's not the DNA,
but there's something inside you that is tuned to a specific frequency. We'll call it DNA.
Tune to the frequency that is Christian. I've got in this vessel, which came from different
biological mixing of waters and stuff. Water has memory, genetic memory, all the stuff,
ancestral, blah, blah, blah, down to this boil down to this frequency that
created my DNA to that frequency, which is max plucked from the same field. There's only
really one of us here just in different vessels experience a different frequency at the same
consciousness in like cash. I am another yourself. Say that at the end of every show that I do.
So you think about that. So they come along and they give you this little DNA swan.
Please take that. That's the frequency that is Christian. And we'll take it over here.
We'll put it on our biological computer because I know how to grow brain cells
and biological computers using DNA as chips instead of silicon because it holds far
much more. But done all this stuff. It's all in MIT books. You can see it.
So they're cray computer and stuff. So now they've got that frequency that is Christian.
They've got it on their mother. Then they come along and they give you this jab, which is an mRNA
jab, which puts a little piece in your DNA. So it gets that antenna, which is tuned to Chris
out there in the field and it adds a little bit changes the tuning to over here.
So now the sequel that is Chris goes to their motherboard where they put that little DNA sample
that they got from that swap. And now they can put a few little thoughts in total a little bit
and then send the signal back to Chris because now the antenna is tuned to that motherboard.
So why people started acting a little differently and saying all the same things
and all this sort of stuff. That's my sister still, but she's just a little different to
what she wants. Because and then suddenly your sister dies bang. Now I question these people
who die suddenly. Do they even know they doubt they died or if they simply gone into the main frame?
If you're in a virtual world or look exactly like this world, would you know it?
Is that what happened when the Mandela effect happened? Did everyone get sucked into the main
frame? And if they can do this, this is the thing. If they can do it, they will do it,
which means they already have. And the question is how many layers down the fractal are we
already? If that's the case, you know, so there's all that stuff to consider. But I think
but when you look at the old world and all this sort of stuff here, the scrying mirrors exist.
This is the Lucifer system. That's what Lucifer is the bearer of light is the internet. We give
all of our stuff to it. And when you get to the point, like I said, where they take
everything away from you, the only way you can interact with life or your friends or
anything that you know to be real is by using their system. Then I've got you.
I've got you in the main frame. And I think the reason we can't wake up 75% of the world is because
they got them on the last reset. They're already in the main frame and they think they're human,
but they're not. They're clients and their consciousness is already being beamed out of
I don't know one of the underground bases, the big underground bases all over the world.
I mean, seriously, these things are huge and everywhere. The people seriously think we
built them from our industrial revolution 200 years ago. No, no, no, they've been there for
thousands of years. They've been running this thing over and over again, this program.
You look at the repopulation that happened when they flooded the world with orphans in 1880, 1890.
Orphan trains going across the United States, 300,000 orphans going across from left to right,
you know, from east to west across the United States. Orphans being sent out to New Zealand,
out to Africa, out to Australia. Orphans everywhere, all across Europe, Florence, 90,000 orphans
in just Florence, Italy, in one city in Florence, Italy, where they'll come from?
Foundlings, they called them. Foundlings, just children everywhere. Where do they come from?
Do they grow them? Cabbage patch kids? What's that all about?
You know, it's so deep how deep this rabbit hole goes. I would suggest that they
create these clones. They populate a whole bunch of them with which consciousness that's already
stuck in the mainframe. And then they breed. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if we're all
descended from clones. And through that process, some of them grow souls.
Some of them grow souls. And that's what they're after is the souls.
Half of them are just NPCs. But these NPCs will breed and they'll have children and the
children may have souls because they were naturally born. And then they can have
an event like 9-11, which they made so obvious, so obvious. Why?
And then they had Alex Jones there. They're going, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up.
Where's all your life souls? Where's all the real thinkers? Where's all the people who can
actually feel empathy? And then they create the truth movement. And then they create the
internet, the worldwide web. What do you do with a net? What do you do with a web?
You catch things. What are they catching? They're catching the souls. Why was 9-11 so obvious?
They get everybody on the internet. Everyone's partying. Everyone's going, wow, freedom.
Big disaster. Where's all the awake people? Now that we've got you all enjoying yourselves
on our little game show, where's all the awake people? We need to find you all.
So they create YouTube. What do they let me back on YouTube? Because they're looking for
the awake people. They're looking for all the people who listened to my stuff.
It's about a soul harvest. They want to corral all these people and they want to force you
into their mainframe system. But you came here to die. That's a given. Don't give up your soul.
Don't give up. Don't step outside your model cup. Just to do what you told.
Screw them. Do what you want to do. Be the best you can be at being you.
That's what you came here to do. And that's what it's all about. Don't go into their well
of souls. Don't go into any of this stuff. Don't go into their mainframe system. That's
what I think's going on here. We're living in a people file. I've been saying this for years.
It's a people file. And I think that's how it works. I would suggest that's how it works.
I mean, hey, I'm open to suggestion. It's all theoretical. Just write it off as the
babblings of a mindless old man. But this is what I would suggest is going on.
It's a soul harvest. We've reached that time. And you've got to understand as well the people
that are doing this. I mean, you've got, like I said, you've got all these different factions
at play. You've got the whole small hat thing. And you've got all this stuff going on in the
meantime. A lot of that is to put you in fear as well. Because ultimately, it's about your path
and your journey and your soul state when you leave the realm. When I speak out, the way I
do about what's going on there because there's a good and a bad. And I feel empathy. And I've often
said to people, if we don't deal this, deal with this, then the way of Palestine will be the way of
the world. And I have a son. I don't want him to be living in that world. And I prefer as many
people to make it through this as possible because, you know, often there's only one of us
here. And we're not free until we're all free. And so that's why I do what I do. But ultimately,
I have no stake in the outcome. If humankind destroys itself, well, it's not my problem.
I suggest there's a better option. It's a personal thing. So yeah.
A lot to take in there. And definitely a lot to chew on.
Yeah, I'm sorry I get really complicated with my answers. But so I just
I haven't done interviews for a while. So you're actually getting a lot off my mind, I guess, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Okay, so you mentioned, you know, the small hats and, you know, and I'll mention that
when I first started doing the show, you know, it was naturally just, you know, finance, very,
very, you know, kosher, you know, safe topics. But, you know, and you've touched on it earlier
when you really want to understand the mechanics behind the world and what's going on naturally
that that leads you to that topic and other things. And it's not affordable. Yeah, it's
also interesting to hear other people's commentary in that there are other groups of actions. Some say
the kind of this Jesuit Vatican click that controls them and they use the the small hats as a
as their instrument, if you will. And, you know, and so I'm just kind of spitballing or saying
this a lot as I think here. But and you also touched on, you know, Gaza. And I watched
briefly, it was a Jared Kushner, I think this was at the World Economic Forum, he was talking about
this smart city and everything that they're building. And I'm just like,
wow, that's just absolutely nuts. Like, I don't know how you can, you know, be at some resort
there on the beach, knowing that a bunch of people were were killed. It's, it's, it's
absolutely asinine. Yeah, on the bones of children. And it's, it's all tied in again
with the same thing with the whole smart system, because what they're saying with Gaza, I mean,
they're talking about Trump's talk about his Board of Peace, which is going to oversee Gaza.
And if you read in the documentation of the Board of Peace, it's not just
Gaza, what he's basically sitting it up. So he will be the one that's mainly financing most
of what happens in Gaza, which will basically put him in place as virtually the king of Gaza.
He's talking about the whole Board of Peace is for billionaires around the world to pull their
resources and to go to troubled areas. In other words, anywhere that they feel like
creating some trouble so they can take over and using their billions to repair these troubled
areas. And whoever the CEO is of the company that is created to do that will effectively be the ruler
of that region. So this is putting in a corporate system. Of course, once it's in place, they'll
put AI in charge and it'll just be the figure here. Like, you know, if Trump was to take over
Gaza and put himself there as the CEO of that particular Board of Peace for that region,
he'd have AI run it and he'd just be the figure here. And the whole thing would be
AI government is what I've been saying for years. But that's what the Board of Peace is all about.
It's not just for Gaza. Gaza is just the prototype. Like I've said, the way of Palestine will be the
way of the world. What they're doing there is putting together this whole corporate system.
So now they can have any troubled region. They could have troubled region in New York if
they want. They could have pretty troubled in Philadelphia, isn't it at the moment? All the
drugs everywhere and stuff, you know? So I mean, they can do this anywhere they want. And
suddenly they can turn that region into a smart region with a corporate head.
No governments. The corporate head is the governments. That's what they're doing
in Gaza, which is pretty freaky. And what was the bit you said before that? Sorry?
Oh, no, I was just alluding to Jared Kushner's smart city model. And I'm just saying aloud how
crazy it is at some point in time for tourists or people to reside.
On the bones of children. There was something you said before that, though. I can't remember
what it was I wanted to address. Oh, yeah. Just the whole small hat, you know,
kind of click and all that. Oh, that's right. The thing is like with the Vatican and all that,
like, I mean, God bless the Christians. I mean, I'm not a Christian. I'm just not a Christian.
And I'm quite open about saying that. If Jesus was real, then he said some great stuff.
It's interesting, though, that you can get people like Apollonius of Tiana and a rebel priest
that Barbara Thuring writes about from the Dead Sea Scrolls. And actually, even the last Egyptian
pharaoh, you merge them all together and you get a pretty tidy Jesus Christ. So there's that.
But the whole concept of Jesus coming back to save people, if this guy was real,
I would suggest he was probably the rebel priest, which means he was basically an anarchist.
He was telling people to step away from the church, step away from the system. Even when
you look at what the original meaning of the word Israel is in the original meaning of Gentiles,
because there was no Gentiles mentioned in the original Bible. The word was nations, not Gentiles.
And you had the man, according to biblical tales, you had the man Jacob,
who was a very distrustful man, did a lot of bad stuff, and suddenly he had an epiphany,
found God, and the angel came and renamed him to Israel. And then he started teaching belief
in one true God. And so Israel is the teachings of the man Israel. And then later came Jesus,
who was proclaimed to be the Messiah, allegedly, who was born in the province of Judea,
who is basically saying the same thing as what the man Israel was doing,
the same belief in one true God, according to the biblical tales.
So you've got Israelites, who were people who followed the teachings of the man Israel,
and you've got Judahites, or Judean, or Yahudi, who were people born in Judea who
followed the teachings of the man Jesus, who was the same as the teachings of the man Israel.
Did that make sense? Okay, so that all means the same thing, Israelite, Judean,
Yahudi, Judahites, it all meant the same thing. And either you followed, and all of that,
these were the people who chose the law of God, according to the man Israel and according to
the man Jesus, which was taught in the place where that doctrine was taught was the Holy
land of Israel, which existed within Palestine. So, and you either followed that doctrine,
belief in the one true God, or you follow the law of the state, which means you were a nation,
you follow the law of the nations, the Roman law. King James came along, and interestingly,
just a little while after Oliver Cromwell was real loud back in England, I wonder
whether that's got anything to do with the change of mindset. But King James came along,
and he had the Bible rewritten, and he combined the words Israel, Yahudi, Judean, Judahite,
Israelite, all these words into the word Jew, which never existed before that. And all those
people, like I said, those were the people who chose God over the law of the state, those
who chose God, and the people who chose God. And then he changed the word nation to Gentiles,
which ethnicisized both of them. He gave the Jews an ethnicity by combining all of those
belief systems, all those different people who shared a common belief system by calling it Jew,
he created an ethnicity. And by creating the word Gentile, who created another ethnicity
in as much as those who are non-Jews. And like I said, and in the Bible, it tells you you must
protect Israel. Protecting Israel is protecting belief in the one true God. It's got nothing
to do with the block of land in the Middle East. It's got nothing to do with real estate.
The state of Israel is actually a contradiction in terms because a state of Israel was a
mindset whereby you followed the law of God, not the law of the state. So it's a complete
inversion of what the word means. So then they were able to ethnicisize things. And Gentiles were
those who followed the law of the nation. So by giving the Jews an ethnicity, by replacing
Israelite and Yehudi and all these words with the word Jew, they were able to flip it so that
the people who chose God suddenly became God's chosen people. And the God's chosen people,
yeah, they've been kicked out of 109 countries 1,030 times and put through hell for thousands of
years, not just days or nights, like thousands of years they've been gone through hell. So God
chooses them and looks after them, but kicks them out every time they provoke a fight and
tortures them for centuries. How are they God's chosen people doesn't really make sense,
does it? And all the wars and conflicts and everyone trying to kill them all the time,
how are they the chosen people? Wouldn't there be some aura of protection around them?
But that's how they did all that. So it was either those who chose God or those who
chose the law of the state. So ultimately, if you are someone who is willing to sacrifice
whatever and not step outside your moral compass and simply follow the law of God,
which is do no harm, you are Israel. That's it. It's got nothing to do with these people
in the Middle East. It's got nothing to do with the block of land. It's got nothing to do with
any of that stuff. All it is is choosing the law of God over the law of the state.
So like I said, all legislation does is mimic actual law, but all it does is actually cause harm.
We comply with that. We're in that system. We're in that satanic inversion,
that mirror, that mimic of what life really is supposed to be.
This whole system has been created as an inverted mirror of what your life should be, all of it.
And I would suggest religion is the same. And Christianity was created in order to do this
to people. You created within Christianity this core that you need to follow Israel. But Israel
is this block of land. Not the teachings of Israel anymore. You need to follow the Jews
and these people because Jesus was a Jew. Jesus said horrible things about the people
who were running the system back there. If you look at what he said about them,
calling them the synagogue of Satan, all sorts of stuff. See, they were greedy,
so they were perverse, overturned all the tables with the money changers,
did all, just didn't want them to do, didn't want to be involved in it. So forget the church,
forget the state, listen to your heart, follow God, do the right thing and all that you do.
And if you think, I'm fantastic, why do you see what you can do? Didn't they
invert it or all of that? And then, I mean, I think they created the Vatican and the
church and all that sort of shit. I even think like a lot of the old churches that we see
weren't created as Christian houses of worship. They were created as energy centers,
places of healing. Look at the old world, look at sound healing, organs in all these churches,
organ music to heal your organs, sound waves, somatics, free energy devices, bells,
all these things are in churches, cathedrals, cathodes for free energy.
We lived in a very, very different world. And I think religion, Christian religion,
even Islam, has been superimposed over all of it. And the problem with the guys with small
hats is, like I said, there's a very evil mafia that exists within this faith,
which is the Kabbalistic Jews. The Kabbalistic Jews always suggest they're in control of all
these things. And that's who wants to build a third temple and all that sort of stuff.
And they believe their role is to destroy Amalek. And Amalek is basically everything
that is not a Jew. There's actually a guy called Chris Bjorkens, I think. Bjorkness.
Christopher Bjorkness, I think. You might find him on X. I've got to have him on for a chat
one day. He's been talking about this as well. The destruction of Amalek, within the Kabbalistic
system, these people literally believe that the earth was created by God as the embodiment of evil.
Evil existed in the universe kind of as an anomaly. And God needed somewhere to contain evil
so it could be destroyed. And their role is to destroy evil. And evil is not just the people
that are non-Jews on earth. It's everything that is alive. It's earth itself. So people say,
why would these people do what they're doing? Why the chemtrails? Why all this stuff? They'd be
poisoning themselves. That's the point. They want to kill all life on earth because they believe
earth itself is evil. And they believe that once they have destroyed Amalek, then they will be able
to ascend Jacob's ladder and return to God. That's what they believe. And they don't give a shit about
Israel. They don't give a shit about the Jews. They don't give a shit about any of that stuff.
They believe the 144,000 people in the rapture depicted in the Bible will be clones who will
be transgender clones. They'll be gender-neutral. They'll be androgynous because God is the Alpha
and Omega, both male and female. That's what they believe. And they'll be androgynous clones
made from the foreskin of their Messiah who they believe they'll be anointing in the Temple Mount
in the Holy New Temple, the Third Temple, on Haksim Mosque on October 2nd,
2027. They want to be anointing this guy by in order to achieve their plan. And then when they've
anointed this guy, then we'll start the War of Gog and Magog. Well, they will all out destroy
Amalek. And Amalek represents every living being, living thing on earth. And once they've done that,
then 144,000 clones from the foreskin of their Messiah will be able to ascend Jacob's ladder
and God will have been purified. Thanks to them. So this is pretty twisted. And I might have a couple
of little points wrong, but that's basically it in a nutshell, what these people believe.
And that's who's controlling the Zionist system. That's who's controlling starting all
these wars and flooding Europe with migrants. You know, I say all the Jewish people are
in the center. And they're creating a situation whereby all Jewish people are being blamed for it.
And they're forcing all the Jewish people around the world to live in fear and believe that they
must return to Israel because they need their numbers to populate greater Israel. So they've
got the strength to carry out what they want to do. And there's going to be a period after the
Third Temple is created where the Antichrist rules the earth and blah, blah, blah. And this
will be the war of Gog and Magog where they destroy Amalek, blah, blah. That's what they believe.
So this is what we're facing. And you've got to look at that. I mean, it's pretty freaky. And
like I said, it's gone so far now. How do you stop it? You know, unless there's some
event, some divine intervention, many people have talked about a plasma event, a Carrington
event, an event that shuts down the internet, because it's going to get to a point where
the only way we can survive anything that's coming is to just shut down the internet completely.
As much as it's been a boon in our lives, it's getting to the point that it's,
we've become far too dependent on it to the point we've lost all our life skills.
The problem is if we do shut it down, most of society will perish because they don't know
how to do anything anymore. They're all corralled into cities. They've got no life skills. They
don't know how to grow food. Most people are truckitarians. You know, they live off the food trucks.
So yeah, strange situation to be in, brother. But hey, looking at a broad overview of things,
I mean, a lot of what I say might seem pretty negative to a lot of people and stuff, but
I'm just trying to be realistic. You know, as said, but I think it was Henry Thomas or
someone Thomas Henry, I would prefer to know the whole truth and to be able to prepare for it.
So and sometimes the whole truth isn't pretty. Yeah, I, I'll just add that as I am, you know,
just on my journey, like we all are in life, that so much of what the diet we have been
raised on, you know, official narratives is just BS. Oh, just just, yeah. Yeah. Oh,
yeah. And I'll also add that this is tangential, but related to you mentioned how a lot of people
are dependent on, you know, food trucks, or you know, they're, they're, they're, they don't
have, they don't possess the skillsets to take care of them. And I'll, and I'll just share,
I thought this was really interesting in that I was reading about the Eastern Front,
of course, the, the, the theater with, you know, Nazi Germany and, and the Soviets and
fill in the blank groups buying for power. And I'm just bringing that up in that when there
were, I, what I found really interesting is, is that when there was a total breakdown in authority,
when, when, you know, when the Nazis took over and pushing on to Stalingrad, etc.
was you had all these partisan groups that arose. And what there was, it was an inverse
in terms of the socioeconomic dynamic wherein those who, you know, in society were at the top,
let's say the doctors, the dentists, these, you know, educated intelligentsia fill in the blank,
where, you know, when all law and order broke down, we're at the now very, almost very bottom
of the social strata, with the exceptions of doctors and dentists, because you need people
to do that work. But what was interesting in the reading was the people that were
perhaps seen as kind of blue color or kind of the repair man or, you know, maybe, maybe, you know,
made enough to get by but was really handy and was able to do a bunch of stuff. Those people wrote
to the very top of the social strata. And, and I read about this, how even instances where
families that were well off would, you know, you know, they would want their, their, their
kids instead of going after the other white color person would go after the blue color person
because they could provide or, you know, you've got the young guy who, you know, who has a machine
gun, he can, he's got balls and he's willing to go provide. Whereas, you know, if you don't have
those skill sets, you're out there. So, I mean, look, I wouldn't be surprised tying this all in
where if something happened with the grid and there was a Carrington event, etc., that you
might see some inverse relationship there. Well, that's just how society's supposed to work.
I mean, that's how our society used to work. When you look at all the incredible
architecture around Europe and all that stuff, some of the incredible structures,
even some of the stuff that was there in the Chicago World Fair, some of the old structures in,
in San Francisco. No way they were built by our society. They were built by previous
cultures that existed here. And they couldn't have been built if we had this type of monetary
system in place. We had a usury-based monetary system where people had to live by the hour and get
paid by the hour. We never would have built any of that stuff. And I would personally suggest
that we didn't have a monetary system at all when those things were built.
I had, in my only years, when I was about 17, I've lost it now, unfortunately, but I had this
old leather-bound book which was handwritten. It was a book of receipts that was given to me.
And the receipts were recipes. Like, a recipe and receipt doesn't even have the letter T,
and you take the T off and put E there, and a recipe becomes a receipt, you know what I mean?
And so it was basically a book of recipes. And it would be things like,
so I lived on a property and I needed a fence built. I didn't know how to build a fence.
You know how to build a fence. But I know how to build a wagon wheel. So you would come around
and you'd build my fence for me, but not only would you build the fence for me, you would show me
how to build the fence. So now I can build a fence. And in repayment for that, I would show
you how to build a wagon wheel. Now you can build a wagon wheel. You've got to spare wagon
for you. A wheel for your wagon that you bought your tools over on, and you know how to
build a wagon wheel now. It was more like a guild-based society. People would spend years and
years creating something in the most beautiful and artistic way possible because they knew
aesthetics and beauty has a function. If you live in a beautiful society, you have a good
life and you want to create beautiful things. And it'd be someone who's a master craftsman,
a master carpenter, a master stone mason, or a master farmer. And everyone would want their
children to go and be near that person. And the more things you'd built and the more apprentices
you'd had showed your status in society, if you're a guy who'd put an incredible temple somewhere
and you had all your workers building under your specification, you'd put this incredible
thing and you'd done so well that you had like 50 people come and want to learn from you
and you had trained 50 people. You could go to any village anywhere in Europe
and they would welcome you. They would give you a house, your food would be a supplier
and it would be the same for anybody with any trade they were good at. So people were encouraged
to learn. Now when you look at every child, when they enter school, when they enter
the school system, every child is fixated on something. There's something that they love,
there's something that they're a genius at. Every single person has their own particular
genius. And the education system would look at that. It's fine now, what does this child excel at?
That's what he's good at. That's what he loves to do. So they would encourage him to do that
and he'd become a master at that. Whether it was a musician, whether it was a builder,
whether it was a scientist, whether it was a farmer, whatever he loved to do,
maybe he loved to grow plants when he was a kid. He'd become a master farmer,
become someone like Victor Schauberger and discover whole new ways of farming. So
that's what they used to encourage people. That's the sort of society we used to have.
And if we didn't have that sort of society, we never could have built that stuff.
There's no way people built that big cathedral in Denmark because they were being paid by the hour.
They did it because they love to do it. And my son once said to me,
what's the secret to getting through life dad? And I said,
find what it is you love to do more than anything and do it as much as you can until
you become really good at it. And once you get really good at it,
someone will pay you to do that for them. And then you get to do what you love to do as a job.
You get people who work jobs they hate and better have to do it because they've got bills
in Aurora. So when I was a kid, I loved to listen to music. I was just, that's all I did
was listen to music. I didn't do anything. I wouldn't want conversation, wouldn't want
anything. I just listened to music. I became so good at listening to music.
And I became one of the best sound engineers in Australia,
very, very sought after sound engineers. I could go into a band, into any venue,
I could EQ a PA and pull a good mix from any band real quickly and make them and make it so loud
that you couldn't talk to each other, but it wouldn't hurt your ears. And I was one of the
best sound engineers in Australia, never out of work, or because I did what I love to do
and I love to play guitar. So I worked playing guitar and mixing bands most of my life.
And so my son ended up doing what he loved to do. He's a computer tech. He loves
building computers. He's one of the best, he's the most sought after tech in his town now.
Because it took him, his mother was desperate, why isn't he doing anything? And I said,
that's all good. And then when he was like 28 or something, or 27 or 28, he finally got a job.
And within five years, he's the best tech in town. So find what it is you love to do.
And that's what I used to do in our society. That's the way our society used to function.
And that's what this book of receipts was all about. It had recipes in there for glue, recipes
for wagon wheels, recipes for fences, recipes on how to build a house, recipes for how to build a
bridge, recipes for all sorts of stuff. And that's how we used to trade, trade skills with each
other. And that's what gave you your status in society. And that's what was respected.
So yeah, different world, brother. And then they introduced money and usury.
Now you've got to collect paper. Shit, I've got to get paper. I've got to pay for everything.
I've got to pay interest on everything. So I've got to exploit my friends to get
interest to pay off bills. I've got to create stuff. And think about it, it's like I was saying,
the goal is to destroy Amalek. Amalek is the earth. They want to not just destroy life,
they want to destroy the earth. A user-based monetary system, because the interest is
never created. Only the principle is ever created. You borrow $1,000, you've got to pay back $1,100.
Where's the other 100 come from? Well, you've got to exploit one of your friends to get that.
Where does he get it from? He's got to take out. So it ends up compounding. You can never pay off
the interest. You can never ever pay off the debt, because the money to pay off the debt
is never printed. It doesn't exist. That's the way usury works. So you create a business,
some thing that could be incredibly beneficial for society. It's some tool that will last forever.
They say, well, that's not good, because you create them and then you sell a million of them.
And that's it. No one ever buys them after that, because they've already got one,
it's going to last forever. So you've got to make it so it breaks. So after five years,
they've got to buy another one. After a year, they've got to buy another one. It's getting
worse now after like six months, you've got to buy another one. So you're pulling minerals
out of the earth. You're creating something that works for a while out of it, and it gets thrown
on the rubbish tip. So basically you're pulling minerals out of the earth and you're turning it
into rubbish in order to collect paper so you can pay to be alive because of the
user's monetary system. So you are basically turning minerals of the earth into rubbish.
That's what you're doing. You're destroying the earth because you're supporting the mammoth,
right? Because you've got to collect money to pay to be alive. So the whole economic
business structure, a corporate entity, you create a corporation so you don't want to be
accountable. We're going to create a corporation that will destroy all the environment and all
everything around it, but I don't want to be accountable. It was the corporation. It wasn't
me, the CEOs and all the board members, it wasn't us. We've got indemnity because
it was the corporation. Because corporations have human rights. Now, corporation is a dead
corpse. But it's got the rights of a human, blah, blah, blah. Created by sociopaths so
they can do all this sort of stuff. And so an oil corporation goes out and does some
drilling operation where it makes a billion dollars in profit. The government comes along
and says, oh, look at all the environmental damage that you've done. You're going to charge
you $100 million in fines. They're basically just saying, well, you made your billion
dollars. You've got to give us a $100 million cut. That's it. It's easier for the company
to destroy the environment and pay off the $100 million because they're going to
make $900 billion out of it anyway. So what does it matter? So the fine should equal the
profit. You made $100 billion. Well, you're going to give that $100 billion back to the
village and you're going to clean up this mess. They won't do that. Now, just give us
a cut. Give us $100 million. You're good. Oh, we fined them $100 million. Oh, that's
good. The company got fined. It's a scam, the whole thing. And with a corporation,
a corporation, a bottom line of any corporation is it's got to be permanent growth. It's
in a state of growth. Then it's in receivership. We'll take it over, blah, blah, blah.
It'll become part of another company where we can turn it into something that's in
permanent growth. In order to be in permanent growth, it's got to keep producing,
which means it's got to keep turning the earth into big piles of rubbish.
That's what it's designed to do. So you can see, this is the plan, destroy the
earth. That's what they're doing. All these wars, destroying all the buildings,
destroying all the people, sacrifices, ritual sacrifices, the soldiers. You've got
to be in uniform to go to battle. You've got to have your five pointed stars and your red ribbons
and your hats with the braids and all. You've got to be dressed in the occult
sigils to go out there for your sacrifice to mean anything because you are a sole
dire. That's where you are. We are harvesting your soul. You need to do what
the nation says and go out and kill people you've never met before because the
government says it's a good idea. Okay? These people, you've got no problem
with it all. You just want to live life the same as you. Go and fucking kill them
because they're Russian or because they're Chinese or because they're Iranians
because the government said it's a good idea because you are a sole dire. Dress in
your sigils, put on your uniforms and go out and perform our sacrifice for us
and help us depopulate this earth. That's what's going on. And like I said,
it's one big game. One big theatrical concept. You know, nations, countries,
governments, bullshit, government, guba, mente, mind, control, control, mind. That's
what the word means. Gubernare, mente, control, mind. That's all government is
and this happens because people believe authority is real because they follow
the law of the state, the nation, their gorm, Gentiles. Rather than being Israel,
you should be Israel. Follow the law of God. But see, all this has been inverted
into the... You can't even say that anymore, mate. It's a Jew lover. My God,
he said be Israel because I don't know what Israel means. Most Jews don't even
know what Israel means. They don't have a clue. And even the whole Jewish
society, you can't even blame them for what they do because if you've
grown up into Israel in the last 80 years, you've been fed this
education, which is just the most warped version of reality you've ever
heard in your life. So you can't blame them. It's just
programming the whole thing. But if you can step back and see through
it all, well, that's where you get to that point of
clarity and you realize it's about your path, ultimately. How you approach
all this. I mean, we do it. We can to try to help, try to change things.
But ultimately, it's your path. No mistake in the outcome, bro.
Like I said, if the human race doesn't see all this, we could collectively
do incredible things if we would just wake up to ourselves.
That's been my ultimate goal. I have so much hope and faith
in humanity. But he gets to a point where you say, well, it's just
got to be... The system's got to crash and
burn. It's just going to be who makes it to the other side. So
now I'm just trying to inject that positivity into the field.
So what makes it through? We'll hopefully have some sort of spiritual
connection to what we really should be. Because I can't see this system
last year and I'm actually looking forward to seeing it all collapse.
Wow. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's... We are headed in that
direction. That is for sure. You hear a lot about... And let me know if you
want to pivot or etc. I know we've been going for some time, but
you hear a lot about... You said 45 minutes, yeah?
Sorry about that. I get on a rant and I tend to babble, but it's interesting.
So... Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm enjoying it and I assume I trust the audiences as well.
I'll add that you hear a lot about Agenda 2030.
We're only a handful of years away. You've highlighted on depopulation.
There's a number of different vehicles by which they can achieve that, more or less.
What do you see? Obviously, this is highly speculative, but what do you see the world
looking like past 2030 or 24? I'm just kind of rough estimate.
Well, we'll either grow or die, brother. We'll either grow or die. Either their system
come online or, I mean, perhaps there'll be a situation of mass non-compliance.
Maybe that will happen. I still would love to see that because that's where we're in
our most strength in that. Or it could get to a point where
a lot of people just get sucked into the mainframe. We end up in a 100-game-type
society where you've got to be part of that system or you're completely
locked out. In that situation, I mean, I think they probably just treat you like
Waco and stuff. These are dissenters, terrorists, whatever. People will be okay with it
because they're okay with what's going on in Minnesota and stuff. A lot of this has
been done to desensitize people as well, so they'll be okay with it. We could be in
that situation or there could be. Look, I said, I mean, it could get to a point where
I mean, we manifest all of this. All of this is done
sure our projection. I sincerely believe this. Like, there's only one of us here.
They feed us so much negativity and we literally create this reality ourselves
and by our, not even our belief in their system, but by our disbelief in ourselves,
our fear of ever embracing our own power. I think it's happened before as well.
I mean, there's been talk, even Jason Bushiers talks about plasma events and resets and stuff.
Look at the mud flood, whatever happened, whatever caused that. There was some event
that flooded most of the earths in mud as recently as like a couple hundred years ago.
So I think we might get to a certain point in conscious vibration, if you will, because
like all the Gen Z kids that had come up or have none of this shit, none of these people
trust Israel. They're all questioning the Holocaust. They all see the system for what it is.
A lot of these Gen Z kids, that's why they shut down TikTok. Well, they didn't shut it down,
but Larry Ellison took over and blah, blah, blah. And you see the mass exodus from TikTok.
Like tens of thousands of people have left. There's this new app called Upscrop,
which is being run by a Palestinian Australian and now everyone's flocked over to that.
And it's interesting when the Israelis try to sign up to it and they put their place down
as Tel Aviv. Israel doesn't come up as a place of, as a country. It comes up as
occupied Palestine, which I think is really cool. But everyone's flocking over that.
So I mean, Gen Z will have none of what's going on. So there's this huge conscious
vibration happening. We may just get to a point where we trigger some event and the whole
system shuts it down. And that could easily happen. And like I'm saying, that's why you've
got to prepare for all outcomes. And the most important thing people can do at this stage
is pay attention to their own environment, their own surroundings and get back in touch with your
life skills, which is an interesting thing for me here because I'm in Mexico at the moment.
And I'm kind of here in a compound and blah, blah, blah. And it's all good,
but I couldn't just wander off into the nowhere and just survive. In my own
environment in Australia where I live, I know the local terrain. I know the local
river systems. I know the local mountain ranges. I know the cave systems. I know how to walk into
the forest in Australia with basically a rope and a knife and I can survive.
You know, maybe a bit of fishing tackle, you know, maybe a spear, I guess bow and arrows.
I got a bow and arrow. I could take my bow and arrow. I could take an uning knife.
Now I could take a tent rope. If I didn't have a tent I could build a shelter anyway.
I mean, I know how to survive in the Australian bush is what I'm saying because it's my environment.
Here in Mexico, I couldn't just walk off the compound here with a rope and a knife and a
tent and hope to survive because I don't know the lives of terrain. But if where you live,
if you have the general skills of your environment and the knowledge of your
environment, you have a way to just walk away from where you are with no stake in the outcome,
then you'll get through. I mean, if it all does turn pear-shaped when you end up in a hunger
game-style reality, if it all does shut down, if there's some sort of a Carrington event or
something, the last place you want to be is the city. You do not want to be in a big city
because they're all truckitarians, it'll turn into absolutely more rural
and it'll only last as long as there's food left in the supermarkets which will
be trashed and gone within three or four days and all eaten within two or three weeks.
So after that, it's just going to be chaos. It's not where you want to be, it'll be a jungle.
So I don't know. I mean, I just think you've got to be prepared for all outcomes and realize
that ultimately it doesn't really matter. Ultimately, what matters is how you face
that final moment, how you face those final choices because ultimately you came here to die.
You came here for this very event that we are going through now and you obviously need to
be here because you exist and it's really how you face that. Don't be too attached to this
physical realm. This was just the test, the exam for what comes later. That's the important
part. And like I said, if you think of this as a form of soul purification, well then if you
keep your soul pure and your heart pure, if you've left the world a little bit better than how you
found it, if you've made one person's life easier because you exist, then you've already succeeded.
So what's there to worry about?
Paul said, Max, how can people learn more about you and get in touch with you?
Well, it's hard to learn about me. I'm still figuring it out.
But I'm banned most places. Well, I have, let me back on YouTube, which is interesting.
But you can go to thecrohaus.com, my website, which is an old HTML website. It doesn't look
good on your cell phone. You can thank me later. You go to thecrohaus.com,
you tap on the head to enter, the face to enter, and you'll find all my stuff there.
It's money, just radio archives and stuff. But you can just go to BitShoot, to the
Crohaus on BitShoot. We can go to the Crohaus on YouTube. And you'll also follow me on Rumble,
on Odyssey, Vigilante TV. I'm banned from Facebook. I'm on X, again, Max the Crohaus at X, on X,
also on Gab as Max Egan. And that's about it, I think. I've been kicked off most,
I've even kicked off LinkedIn. I'm banned from SoundCloud. I've banned from SoundCloud, LinkedIn,
Getta, iTunes, iHeart. Crazy, I just got banned everywhere. But they've let me back on
YouTube. I'm still banned from Facebook, so forget Facebook. But yeah, mainly YouTube and
BitShoot, you'll find my stuff. And thanks for having me on. Sorry, I'll just bad what I've
taken over the conversation. No, not at all. As I said, it's been a long time since I did
an interview, so we just kind of cussed all this stuff, so much is happening. And it's
been an incredible year, just wearing a month into this year. It's just insane. I could write a
book about this last month, but it's been good. Thanks for having me on, Christian. We'll do it again.
Well, I just wanted to add that I really enjoyed this one and appreciate what you do in your work.
No doubt what you're doing is impacting people and making them
rethink the current paradigm that exists in the world today. And so I would love to have
you back on later this year and hear what your latest thoughts are.
Yeah, it was good. I'm happy to talk.
Thanks for tuning in. And if you enjoyed the show, I encourage you to like, share,
and follow if you found value in it. I also have a new show called Markets with Christian
White, which is exclusively focused on the financial markets. If that is something of interest to you,
I encourage you to check that out. And I always look forward to hearing your feedback and thoughts.
And until next time, take care and be well.