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was, I had, we were using sniffers, and we were mostly, I was doing the scam to get the cards.

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And after a while, you know, you're 16, 17, you're making all this money.

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You start getting lazy, you know, you start making mistakes.

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You know, I had my friend, he got arrested.

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So, that's the delay.

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I got away from the card game, turned 18, moved to Austin, Texas, and lived in a punk rock house on the floor for about 10 years.

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It was pretty awesome.

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You had a couple of traveling countries, great.

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But there's no money in there.

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Zero money.

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So, I had to get back into it.

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So, after two, three years, Bitcoin was coming around.

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You no longer needed evil.

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You could do these transactions with Bitcoin.

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I saw the Silk Road for the first time.

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I thought it was just amazing.

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I was, you know, they did a rap rap, but you start in that market place.

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Especially across the vision on that.

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Because they made the purchase of drugs a lot safer.

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So, I was talking to somebody, you know, I was saying,

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when you go give your local dealer a one-star review,

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the best thing that happens is probably not your chief.

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So, you know, you can have this, you know, you can review it, everybody can do exchanges.

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It's a very safe place.

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There's not really no violence to it.

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So, I thought that was really cool.

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But, again, I have to make money.

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So, I started looking at these places.

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And Silk Road went in a lot of parts of the town.

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So, I'm very lucky.

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Okay, I think I'm just going to start.

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Cloning the best I can see.

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I can catch the positive.

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And that's just part of my motivation.

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And to that, I just saw it.

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So, it would always be do the fishing.

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And with, you know, trying to figure out the best way to constantly progress, you know, so.

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There was a Firefox tab back in the day that put on top where you could clone the cycle

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and link everything together.

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You didn't have to know what to do.

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So, all you had to do was put your side up there, put the wall in, you know,

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some cue bar, but you didn't even have to change the wall of the dresses at the time.

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And it would be easy money.

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So, the market cycles, right?

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So, as you know, Silk Road got busted.

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And everybody was there, you know.

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Back then, Bitcoin exchanges were connected, tied to them.

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So, Bitcoin would fall too, you know.

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And it was crazy.

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I thought it was for sure the end.

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And most of the two days later, Silk Road too pops back up.

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Where they brought it back.

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And that stayed around for a while.

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So, I realized, you know, hey, these drug guys aren't going anywhere.

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This is going to be here a while.

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You know, like, okay, this is where I'm going to make my money.

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Then, after the fall of Silk Road, too, and the other markets that were coming on, you know,

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I'm going to say Praxis, you know, Black Bay.

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What was it doing?

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They all started popping.

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And then from there, I noticed on tour, it was tour carding floor.

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So, I got to meet people on there.

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I had a background in cards.

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A new couple of people on there.

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But I noticed that the skill level there was a lot higher.

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It's a lot better.

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And I realized, you know, hey, I'm going to really have to work at this

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if I'm going to meet any of these people.

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So, I got back in the carding again.

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I was getting second hand cards, selling them.

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It was a really big thing back then.

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Who becomes the owner of Alphabet was a carder, too.

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And he literally wrote the book on credit card fraud.

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That was a bad thing for people with big strides.

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You know, you get the credit card reader, you get the cards,

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you get white cards, all day long.

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It was a struggle getting them with that.

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So, I started selling cards on evolution.

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I got food with some people.

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And then the day I escaped.

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These are just the natural cycles of how the markets

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and evolution places work on these things.

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There's a time limit.

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You've started, I would say about four years

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before you probably invest the club now.

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So, Alphabet came on.

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Back then, you wanted to do like an e-day trading stuff,

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get auctions and stuff.

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Nobody was using it.

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And to me, I was trying to find another way to make money.

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I was always trying to figure it out.

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I tried to sell drugs.

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Now, when I say try, it was successful,

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but it was way more worth than I thought.

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I remember making my account on Alphabet.

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You know, making it really cool with like the AK guns

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and all the kind of profile.

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Making it look like somebody could buy something.

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One day, I logged on and my account flooded with orders

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for how the hell did this happen.

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You know, and I realized e-top web

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put my vendor profile on there

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and it made the article say how to buy something off of it.

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And back then, I was selling cocaine

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because I realized there was one for 90 grams

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and I could get it for 15.

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I was like, I'm going to just complete this pillage

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and I'm going to make money.

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Little did I know,

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putting drugs in boxes is a lot.

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This is a lot of work.

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You get them with double gloves.

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You got to have acne-seal things.

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I used to get used to gloves

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and I would put them in like rods or inside of it.

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Pants, pockets, and jeans and put them in a separate box.

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It was nice, I mean like almost like 150,000 in six months.

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It was pretty cool.

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I even had like a little local biker game

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dropping off my packages.

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A little mini lot, that's the word.

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And then, and the thing too is that

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I used to get it from them

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since this cartel in Houston

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and they were, they loved me.

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You know, I would come back with the money early

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and then I'd show them,

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they were like, how do you get rid of this so quick?

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You know, I'm now,

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I had to come here and come in right back

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and I brought my laptop, I'm like,

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I'm selling it on here

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and this guy was just like,

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completely my equal.

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He used to own them.

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You know, in Houston they had these after-hour clubs

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after the bars closed,

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bad clubs after hours.

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You go to these clubs and they'll be like mine.

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Out of the bathroom, it's actually some guy

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serving a couple of eggs

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in the toilet.

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So that guy, they liked it

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but you know, again,

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if you can't too much work in it,

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they just didn't want to do it.

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So, I got into, this was our alpha bay

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and at this time it was on its rise.

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On the rise of alpha bay,

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they had a guy in traffic,

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he was the PR.

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Anyway, he wasn't making enough money.

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I talked to him, he wasn't happy with the money

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he was making.

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So, I had some parties

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and I was like, I'm not doing the coaxing anymore.

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And he gave me, he was mad at the alpha 2 guy

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and he gave me a website,

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he said this is typical of his website

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and this is all this

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and here's all this information

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given to me for a couple of parts.

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He sold out to the boss over,

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I think I gave him like 10 parts.

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So, what did I do?

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Go to alpha 2 and I give him,

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hey, this is what I got.

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And then he says,

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how much?

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I'm like, oh nice.

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Money.

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So, I was like, let's throw a note right there.

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5k.

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He did it.

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And I knew I had some, I didn't know what.

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Right.

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He was painting this money.

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The site where it was registered,

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it was registered, I think it was in red here.

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You know what I'm saying, it was close enough where,

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and we did this all on red tip.

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Remember, dark red?

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Markets on reddit?

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Yeah.

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Alpha 2 was getting it sorted through reddit

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and I had a friend that I probably had

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and I told him, hey, this guy named King

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and he was having problems with him as well.

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So, I brought him in and he completely backs that.

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He was going to teach me some

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advanced spearman techniques

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and he only got halfway through this call

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but he was exploring one of the back end as well.

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It was nice.

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I mean, I felt bad.

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I was dating a Marxist lettuce at the time.

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I'm in 11 and I'm like, man,

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I hope this guy is not I've got to do,

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but kill himself or something,

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because he gave me a score dish.

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He's fine.

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So, those things like dating,

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they're not going to call the cops because they hate them.

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She would always tell me,

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you know, you think you can exist

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or you have to choose it with the script of points

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that I could struggle outside the system.

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I'm like, I'm not working.

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I'm getting these points.

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I think I'm doing pretty good.

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I think Joseph Pops,

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I think the guy came here,

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contacted this guy Joseph Pops

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and he made an article that was,

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hey, you know,

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pretty much about him getting assorted

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and that was the one they pissed off of him to.

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And he went and changed

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as we tried to make it seem like

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he's no longer there

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and he came back as admin.

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So if anybody wants to know why that happened

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is because on the back end,

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he was getting assorted.

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And it'd be like, you know,

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I feel like 10 grand a day

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and it over, you know, he would.

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And then that article came out

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and he stopped.

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So there, that's why,

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that's how to find something else.

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This was about 2015 or so.

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The market was still going.

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I just moved to Washington, D.C.

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I was living in the Columbia Heights neighborhood

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and I'm walking by this place

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called the diner and I noticed they had

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Bitcoin ATM in there.

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I was like, okay, cool.

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So I go and get hired at the place

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so I could stake up the ATM.

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And if you know anything about the diner in D.C.

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back in that time, they actually had door guides

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because it was open 24-7.

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So it's the only restaurant that

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I've ever been to that had door people.

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Like there were like bouncers.

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And I would, you know, the cool thing about it too

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is I would know who was coming in

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and let someone watch who was getting all the money out

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or I would know that if I did a big,

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you know, transaction I did because, you know,

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I would come to those Bitcoin ATMs

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and get a bunch of money,

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pull the bag and it would all shoot out.

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I did that once at the H.R. Brownson in Houston.

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I think I got that nine grand out of it.

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It was the convention center like this.

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Everybody was in suits.

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I walk over there, flip-flops.

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Just got inside with the bag.

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All these suits are in the Starbucks.

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They give me my phone.

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I'm doing it all.

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Pull up the bag.

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Give them deuces.

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I'm complete.

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They're all perplexed.

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So, at this time, Alpha Bay gets busted.

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You know, I realized that I hate working.

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So I quit that job.

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But I managed to sneak a USB into the network,

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into the closet network,

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and then also into the management,

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to pop the bag and get the USB into that Bitcoin machine.

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You had access to P.O.S.S. women.

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I did a bunch of not-cool things, you know.

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So, during this time,

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everybody was, the way that all the stuff

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got out there was on our dark night markets.

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And then, you know, they had enough.

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And they put it in the South.

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So it was the Starbucks idea.

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It's like a dark-air reddit,

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but way better, way cooler.

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It's not full of, like, you know, culture.

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You know, they let you do whatever you need.

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You can talk about what you need more in.

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You can, you know, they're not going to keep,

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like, you really gotta get to the other way.

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They're talking about them.

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But it was started by a lot of time.

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Now, there is loss.

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Everybody knows that

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keep pretty much birth to the marketplace.

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But I would say, the most important,

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especially the last since it existed,

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beside the dread and infrastructure

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they provided and all the stuff that they do

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for the community harm reduction,

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all this was created.

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It went from a chaotic place in some sort of order.

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And, you know, the market had to be verified.

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And they could, you know,

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it was a place to guard the community.

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So I was a bit taken back yesterday.

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On the stage,

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Roger the tour developer would say,

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those dark night guys are nothing.

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You just leave them over there.

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But don't worry, they never,

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they never helped for it all.

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And I thought I'd better

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get a life out of that.

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So I got something to say to his review

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to Roger the tour developer.

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Talking about,

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he would, there's a degausser

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that sent him 10K,

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a guy talked about how he sent it to a part moment

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and didn't use the money.

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And, you know,

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I actually know the deal, too.

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But how Garner's response

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to the tour dev

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is the tour product received

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well over six figures directly

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due to an issue that flanced my bread,

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including internal fundraisers

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to track the cost problems.

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They gladly accepted these funds.

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Most of them submitted by government marketplaces.

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And then stated afterwards,

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they cannot, they cannot assign

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to the nation's specific areas of tour.

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They gladly accepted and used it

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for whatever they liked

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and neglected the entire network

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for over four years.

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Before they,

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the fact is where they release power.

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Endgame

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has had direct effect

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on approving the stability

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of the tour network

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by reducing constant attacks

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over the years,

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as well as giving service operators an option

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that is healthier to the network.

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Then, other possible protection attempts

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led us to strictly handle

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all these attacks against our own service

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with the priority

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beating the health of the tour network

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and mitigating potential issues.

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Even where I would render

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even one greater service

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as offline

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in the name of the conservative network.

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There has been multiple

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significant tool requests

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and contributions by ourselves

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as well as the tickets

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and lots submitted to provide

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crucial value to assist

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in as much as possible.

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So, Roger,

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the tour network expert here

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is quite wrong.

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All right, so this is gone.

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Moving on.

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So,

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with Dredd

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and the new structure

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and the new place where

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everybody comes,

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the markets

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and stuff became more sturdy

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and you would see them last longer.

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Also, too, I would want to add

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that

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this community

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is also

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should we test case a big one

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when it first came out?

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So it was possible to use it

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for transactions, whether if you buy it or not.

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It was just people

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who find it more on drugs.

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This is really effective.

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Therefore,

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they're going to deal with it more.

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I love that as well.

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All right, what do you think?

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All right, we're going to...

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So, let's see here.

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All right, so we're going to put a pin in here.

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There was a recording site hidden here

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that was also

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coming up and

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it's important to this

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because

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this is where I found out

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where I could

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get on these forms

18:49.680 --> 18:50.940
get on these forms

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and then

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with the free BTC

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stealers or the free

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programs,

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if these people poor or not

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to download the program

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and I was able to capture the computer

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using any monitoring

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at the time

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I would spread

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stealers, rats

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and

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I found out that

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the admin who was running the site

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wasn't technically proficient

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because leaking everywhere

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is IP and everything

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so I was able to track him down

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and this is

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a second over

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extortion

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and I felt bad for it

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so

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if you're going to do dark net market stuff

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be compared with your object

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because somebody out there is going to go out there

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and they're going to try to get you

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that's just a major effect

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moving forward

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so looking for a job

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when on the Russian exploit I am

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you know

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they don't have Americans

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I spoke Spanish on there

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when on the track

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when on the track I hand that ransomware

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got on the Gankrat project

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so

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my favorite target with that

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was real estate agents

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they're greedy

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the open stuff

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their remakes and their emails

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their servers always outdated

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I thought it was the perfect target

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so I would

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spam you know

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emails off Google

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spam them

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here's my house student connections

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open this link

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get their computers

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I didn't like it

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trying to handle people

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trying to get the money out of them

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but maybe

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really dislike it too

20:40.600 --> 20:42.660
I was trying to target

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real estate agents

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and one day I was on the panel

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I looked

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up

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got school

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not good

20:51.880 --> 20:52.600
I think

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some lady I sent an email to

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was working at the school

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opened the email up on the school network

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and I asked him

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we got the school that's the best way I could do

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anyway

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some

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working on them

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the empire work that came up

21:10.320 --> 21:11.680
you know I was on the forums

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they offered me a job

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I took it

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I worked

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for about a week before

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I realized they didn't like me

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so they fired me

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not to mention on the

21:25.200 --> 21:27.600
form I posted a picture

21:27.600 --> 21:29.020
of the

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panel some security research

21:31.700 --> 21:33.460
found the Grand Crab panel

21:33.460 --> 21:34.660
and tweeted it

21:34.660 --> 21:36.600
and then the owner of the

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Grand Crab found out

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who didn't know the thing

21:40.880 --> 21:41.760
my Marxist

21:42.320 --> 21:42.760
wife

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looked at me

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how he gets fired from

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too many of the thoughts in the city

21:50.780 --> 21:51.980
I don't know

21:53.460 --> 21:53.900
anyway

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being upset

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you know I have to get back

21:58.980 --> 22:01.100
so I remember

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I was trying to figure out how I could get back at this place

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now my dad

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spent 22 years in New Orleans

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set a special forces group

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and

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I was helping him clean the closet one day

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with an attic

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and special operations

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work

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if you know anything about them

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we could drop off 12 of them

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come back six months later

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the whole country is on fire

22:28.720 --> 22:30.300
so I read the thing

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I said what can I take from here

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and bring it to here

22:34.500 --> 22:35.540
to make this

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make me win

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so what I found out was

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what I'm going to do

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is every time anybody has a problem with these guys

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I'm going to hand them a fishing tent

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and say hey go get your money back

22:48.800 --> 22:50.080
I would fish

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I would just hand them fishing stuff

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tell everybody to fish

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I could have like thousands of servers

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and

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this angered

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angered the entire admins

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you know

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I would

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it would be like in the month

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I would pay my rent

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I would contact the

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I would pay my rent

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oh yeah

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I just had a great time at the board

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thank you for covering that thing

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he would be pissed

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yeah

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they hated me

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it was a good thing

23:25.980 --> 23:28.200
I was stealing money and encouraging other people

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you know

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I think it was a way that they didn't have all the fun

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making all the money and stealing all the good

23:34.360 --> 23:34.720
you know

23:36.080 --> 23:37.180
so that happened

23:37.680 --> 23:39.440
getting close on time so I'm kind of

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moving over

23:41.740 --> 23:43.220
got onto a different market

23:43.220 --> 23:45.160
this market did blow again

23:45.160 --> 23:46.900
and it didn't really know much

23:47.800 --> 23:49.360
I think he got packed

23:49.360 --> 23:52.200
and we came around and tried to fix up this market

23:52.200 --> 23:52.600
fun

23:53.220 --> 23:55.120
but it would bring a lot of heat

23:55.120 --> 23:57.000
you know people found out that I was there

23:58.000 --> 23:58.760
working there

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fishing

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even working for this market at the same time

24:04.700 --> 24:06.540
so it would bring a lot of heat to guide

24:07.300 --> 24:09.020
you know the first thing I did was when

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I got control of the server

24:10.780 --> 24:13.320
you know the pink test monkey PHP shop

24:13.320 --> 24:15.120
put bunch of shelves in there

24:15.880 --> 24:17.200
you know I'm glad I did

24:17.200 --> 24:18.740
because if you ever see the meme

24:19.180 --> 24:21.180
I'll like notice this I think it's open up

24:21.180 --> 24:22.380
our name when it comes back

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actually

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all the heat

24:25.160 --> 24:27.100
from all the stuff that I did before

24:27.100 --> 24:29.920
so he was trying to fire me off big flow

24:30.520 --> 24:31.700
and he would say hey

24:31.700 --> 24:32.960
I changed the password

24:32.960 --> 24:35.080
and I would say oh

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he didn't have to change the password

24:37.280 --> 24:37.760
so

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so

24:42.100 --> 24:43.580
you know we were making

24:43.580 --> 24:45.520
when he was looking at the database

24:46.420 --> 24:48.040
and I realized I wasn't getting

24:48.040 --> 24:48.980
the fair share

24:48.980 --> 24:50.760
so I was like hey man can we boom boom my

24:51.200 --> 24:52.920
pain he's like I don't even want you here

24:52.920 --> 24:53.680
in the first place

24:55.700 --> 24:56.140
so

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so

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what I ended up doing

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was when I got rejected I went to the database

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and

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we're all the

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you know few manually

25:09.360 --> 25:09.800
withdrawals

25:09.800 --> 25:11.660
and I would just put on my bitcoin address

25:11.660 --> 25:12.640
for different ones

25:14.180 --> 25:15.640
so he went to pay

25:15.640 --> 25:17.580
he just paid all my addresses

25:17.580 --> 25:19.420
which caused a big stir on dread

25:20.040 --> 25:21.240
people were like hey

25:21.240 --> 25:22.960
I have a treasure wallet

25:22.960 --> 25:24.280
I think it starts with a 3

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it's not the right address

25:28.860 --> 25:29.340
so

25:30.340 --> 25:31.920
you know somehow he's still trying

25:31.920 --> 25:33.060
to keep the market ready

25:33.720 --> 25:35.620
this was around Christmas of

25:35.620 --> 25:36.380
2019

25:36.380 --> 25:39.640
in efforts to make a way to pay back

25:39.640 --> 25:40.340
all the vendors

25:41.720 --> 25:43.280
after money got stolen

25:43.280 --> 25:44.400
from a php

25:44.400 --> 25:44.760
so

25:49.460 --> 25:51.840
he went on Christmas

25:51.840 --> 25:54.000
he took the markets exchange

25:54.000 --> 25:55.240
the funds

25:55.240 --> 25:56.760
and shorted bitcoin

25:56.760 --> 25:59.840
and 45 minutes lost everything

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it was in essence

26:03.280 --> 26:05.680
he really is off of everybody's money

26:11.620 --> 26:12.480
so

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margin order

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so

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good job

26:17.560 --> 26:19.160
hatred for empire

26:19.160 --> 26:21.120
empire came back

26:22.360 --> 26:23.960
empire was going on

26:23.960 --> 26:25.500
and d-stake

26:25.500 --> 26:27.000
if you remember from alphabet

26:27.000 --> 26:27.520
security

26:27.520 --> 26:29.960
came back

26:29.960 --> 26:32.860
he came back he was pissed

26:32.860 --> 26:35.360
I really believe that the whole reason

26:35.360 --> 26:37.060
alphabet came back was just

26:37.060 --> 26:38.800
the sort of the best faces

26:38.800 --> 26:40.360
and they did

26:40.610 --> 26:42.100
it was awesome too because

26:43.200 --> 26:44.080
I love you

26:44.830 --> 26:45.120
so

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you know

26:47.640 --> 26:50.520
so what qualified for me to work at

26:50.520 --> 26:51.720
he hated empire

26:53.080 --> 26:55.040
he knew me from before

26:55.640 --> 26:56.500
he uh

26:56.500 --> 26:57.640
you know

26:58.420 --> 27:00.120
people knew so I got on

27:00.120 --> 27:02.300
but he knew that with all the heat

27:02.300 --> 27:04.380
coming from being doing all those things

27:04.380 --> 27:05.720
that I couldn't work on the market

27:06.700 --> 27:08.400
first everybody wants to do tickets

27:08.400 --> 27:09.120
it's not fun

27:09.580 --> 27:11.100
you're like arguing with some guys

27:11.100 --> 27:13.720
and trying to rip everybody out

27:13.720 --> 27:15.120
it's just horrible I hate tickets

27:15.120 --> 27:16.000
don't want you on me

27:17.700 --> 27:19.900
anyways so the job I would have to do

27:19.900 --> 27:21.840
was I couldn't work on the market place

27:21.840 --> 27:22.060
but

27:24.340 --> 27:25.760
you know we had

27:25.760 --> 27:27.960
a bunch of other markets

27:27.960 --> 27:28.940
and the way that it was

27:28.940 --> 27:31.840
even with alphabet kind of got a game of 9

27:31.840 --> 27:33.420
when your 6 months comes up

27:33.420 --> 27:34.340
and you couldn't come out

27:35.660 --> 27:36.100
uh

27:36.640 --> 27:38.380
but the other thing was

27:38.380 --> 27:40.880
to promote that was my job

27:40.880 --> 27:41.900
was to promote the market

27:42.680 --> 27:44.280
I would also find other

27:45.680 --> 27:47.080
markets to try to attack

27:48.540 --> 27:49.260
sabotage them

27:49.780 --> 27:51.440
you know every time I was successful

27:51.440 --> 27:52.180
I would get a bonus

27:53.160 --> 27:57.940
so that every once in a while

27:57.940 --> 27:59.480
I would add in my bonus

27:59.480 --> 28:00.160
you know

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I was putting a lot of money

28:03.220 --> 28:03.900
it was nice

28:06.160 --> 28:06.600
um

28:08.600 --> 28:09.600
so here we would

28:09.600 --> 28:11.120
you know we could fight

28:11.120 --> 28:12.980
I would fish trade accounts

28:12.980 --> 28:15.140
and everybody would say hey you know Robin

28:15.140 --> 28:17.260
we need to trade accounts for the worthness

28:17.260 --> 28:19.220
but I would always say the upvotes

28:19.220 --> 28:20.540
on trade go a long way

28:21.020 --> 28:23.100
you can take these accounts you don't want to come

28:23.100 --> 28:25.080
but upvote

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2 or 3

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you can put it on the front of

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they've changed the upgrade

28:30.220 --> 28:32.040
but upvote people would get

28:32.040 --> 28:34.380
whatever message you wanted

28:34.380 --> 28:35.060
with the price

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now no one would believe it

28:37.540 --> 28:39.400
but you always got your 10% of the radiance

28:40.660 --> 28:41.620
over time

28:42.240 --> 28:44.360
5 campaigns would work that way

28:45.220 --> 28:45.700
um

28:46.800 --> 28:48.440
so what else I would do

28:48.440 --> 28:51.060
is we had fishing links that we needed to take account

28:51.060 --> 28:52.420
so I would go

28:53.120 --> 28:54.840
create an offshore accounts

28:54.840 --> 28:55.640
panel on

28:55.640 --> 28:57.500
we had employers here support

28:57.500 --> 28:58.740
half of the lawyers

28:58.740 --> 28:59.860
go to Google

28:59.860 --> 29:02.640
go to drug.gov

29:02.640 --> 29:07.800
and we tried to legally

29:07.800 --> 29:08.640
send out requests

29:08.640 --> 29:09.940
to get the efficient escape

29:09.940 --> 29:12.360
so if you can do the same thing

29:12.360 --> 29:13.060
with the album

29:13.780 --> 29:15.480
now everybody saw the rage

29:15.480 --> 29:16.780
if they go back on the charity

29:16.780 --> 29:18.380
you take it on the charity

29:18.380 --> 29:19.440
and send it to the same point

29:20.920 --> 29:21.400
also

29:22.440 --> 29:23.760
we needed ways to

29:24.300 --> 29:24.980
market so

29:25.480 --> 29:27.080
I would take over Wikipedia

29:27.080 --> 29:28.740
if you've been to the alpha bay

29:28.740 --> 29:31.080
Wikipedia you'll see darknet

29:31.080 --> 29:32.320
history web history

29:33.380 --> 29:34.340
from deathcon

29:34.340 --> 29:35.580
if you click it up that way

29:35.580 --> 29:37.820
you can see that they're alpha bay

29:37.820 --> 29:39.480
and then market site

29:39.480 --> 29:42.360
and then drug.gov

29:42.360 --> 29:43.880
and they all pay you like 10 racks

29:43.880 --> 29:45.040
for Wikipedia

29:45.040 --> 29:46.460
it's just amazing

29:49.120 --> 29:50.900
but you can put

29:51.700 --> 29:52.420
onion on it

29:52.420 --> 29:54.980
so if you type in alpha bay

29:54.980 --> 29:57.100
get away around a lot of the fishing

29:57.600 --> 29:58.920
Wikipedia will pop up first

29:59.600 --> 30:01.140
it was nice

30:02.240 --> 30:02.880
um

30:03.780 --> 30:04.100
so

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we have 5 minutes left

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now let's create a report

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let's get there

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I was at the win

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um

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blackout drunk

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took really bad 8 months 21 pick

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you know

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they don't want to upset the wife

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so I had to figure something out

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quick

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so what I did

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is I knew there was a site

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in cremings

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Russia's cremated war was kicked off

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so

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I looked around for documents

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to see if I could find something

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FBI-ish

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and then just

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falsify it and

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see if I could pull up

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you know

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they're using your market

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to do all these legal transactions

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the feds are hot on it

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I have this document

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I don't know how I got it

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he paid me $20,000

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and then they closed

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the next day

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I did

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I was in an attendee for that to happen

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they literally closed the next day

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I was in this bullshit

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I was pissed

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I was like I understand everybody

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what are you doing

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I'm setting the market order

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I'll put you with the blackout from

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I'll put you with the blackout from

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so

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the conclusion

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is

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this

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this life was very

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stressful

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not for everybody

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you have to be tight off

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all the time

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I decided that I wanted to stop

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beating out of there

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trying something new

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we actually pushed me to do this part

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I'm dark at discussions

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podcast

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and I realized that

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I didn't know what to do

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I actually actually wanted to come to the market

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I felt really bad

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how do I not know how to use a dopey photoshop

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but I've been on human rights

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where I could

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I needed a change

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so that's pretty much it

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but I do have some predictions

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but

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I'm going to retire

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all my alternatives

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I've never went to prison

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I've never pointed my finger and snitched on anybody

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maybe I'll die

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hopefully I'll affirm this

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don't do what I did

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but with AI

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taking jobs as developers

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I do think

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more people are going to be coming up to

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DREVAN

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they're very

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very talented people

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it's Roger over here

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he's talking about

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if you don't need to sell that office job

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it's $79

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just a job or something

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maybe we

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can hold a tour without being

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bad people or whatever you say

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and then we'll continue to grow

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I talked to

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the new king

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the big round of costs coming up

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and he

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just like me was a market worker

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now an admin

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and I believe

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it's going to be a 5 year market

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he comes from a village

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he's an average of really good

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Mr. White was probably one of the best

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ever to do it

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so there's going to be a market coming

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and with every job

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going away

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I think people are going to be coming over there

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because it's easy for me

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and that's it

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it's this good

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it's very exciting

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you can't bust your own

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so that's the end of my talk

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once the same people

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malware, public

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Paris with the research

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I did, I talked to a lot of people for research

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broke out, not to sit

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sand bands

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my friend Matt

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and then I wrote nothing

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but not only official

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if you know anything about them

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they hate you

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anyway, I wrote him a channel

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let him know that I was

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doing this

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turns out

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the FBI only got half of the operation

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the person that I know

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as noob he

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is all free

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which is awesome

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but writing him I didn't start

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starting a friendship

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and I didn't want to tell everybody

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write me a word to see

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the FBI for six

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stand up

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yeah

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applause