WEBVTT

00:00.110 --> 00:06.570
So the other day I found out that the CIA is preparing some kind of criminal referral against me a crime report

00:06.570 --> 00:08.890
the Department of Justice on

00:09.790 --> 00:16.350
The basis of a supposed crime I committed. What's that crime? Well talking to people in Iran before the war

00:16.890 --> 00:18.210
They read my texts

00:18.850 --> 00:26.170
So the crime under consideration apparently would be the foreign agent act or something like that acting as a agent of

00:26.170 --> 00:31.770
So I had an entire episode prepared for you guys based off of the past four days that I've been off

00:31.770 --> 00:34.930
there has been a tremendous amount of breaking news stories and

00:34.930 --> 00:40.690
Last night after I get done with post-production for the episode, which will follow right after with this I

00:41.430 --> 00:48.410
See a report come out from Tucker Carlson saying that he's being he has been for the third time that we know of

00:48.410 --> 00:50.150
Obviously, he's been spied on non-stop

00:50.150 --> 00:55.590
But for the third time that we know of our own government his own government has been spying on him

00:56.170 --> 01:00.730
That is surveilling his communications and obviously that would be galling enough

01:01.390 --> 01:08.870
Just if it was just that he's being spied on but then it gets even crazier because rider die Trump sick event

01:08.870 --> 01:14.870
Laura Loomer is taking credit for this. She is taking credit for his

01:15.630 --> 01:24.230
potential prosecution a fellow journalist a fellow American not too worried about an actual criminal case against me for a bunch of reasons one

01:24.650 --> 01:28.510
I'm not an agent of foreign power. I'm like a lot of people commenting on

01:29.070 --> 01:30.570
US politics and global affairs

01:30.570 --> 01:34.870
I have only one loyalty and that's the United States and have never acted against it

01:34.870 --> 01:39.330
It's interests are the only interest I care about because I'm from here and I have a lot of kids

01:39.330 --> 01:46.610
So that's not a concern. I've also never taken money from anybody. Don't need it. Don't want it and that's provable

01:47.530 --> 01:52.710
And moreover, it's my job to talk to everybody all the time and try and figure out what's happening around the world

01:52.710 --> 01:59.510
That's literally what I do for a living and I'm not gonna stop doing that nor should I I don't think I'm also an American

01:59.510 --> 02:00.570
I can talk to anybody

02:01.110 --> 02:03.490
So what disturbs me most about this is that?

02:03.970 --> 02:08.090
You know Tucker Carlson has contacts with a lot of governments a lot of foreign governments

02:08.090 --> 02:13.730
He has contacts within Israel as well. He talks about it openly talks about all of his conversations pretty pretty

02:13.730 --> 02:16.370
forthright and pretty open-minded that includes

02:16.990 --> 02:22.790
Perhaps to his detriment or to his endangerment his conversations with Donald Trump

02:22.790 --> 02:27.410
Which he has been very open about his frustrations and his disappointment

02:27.410 --> 02:30.370
In fact, he went on friend of the show and friend of mine

02:30.370 --> 02:34.610
Brett Weinstein show that everybody saw Brett Weinstein on Tucker Carlson

02:34.610 --> 02:38.570
But I don't think most people have seen the episode where Tucker Carlson went on Brett Weinstein

02:38.570 --> 02:42.410
It came out the same day so the Dark Horse podcast and in it

02:42.410 --> 02:47.530
Tucker really kind of lets the cat of the bag. He really goes deep into

02:47.530 --> 02:53.650
Why he believes Trump ultimately made this decision and I'll just cut to the chase

02:53.650 --> 03:00.690
It seems as if he believes that Donald Trump was threatened that he was forced into this that he went against his will

03:00.690 --> 03:08.010
So you should ask yourself is this because he was having communications with the Iranians or is this because he has

03:08.830 --> 03:16.110
Betrayed in scare quotes the president of the United States, but even more disturbing and as I said all of this is disturbing

03:16.110 --> 03:24.190
You've got if it's true that this CIA referral is coming as a consequence of an investigation because of a

03:24.190 --> 03:28.330
Tip a snitchline tip from Laura Loomer well

03:28.330 --> 03:33.990
Then we have a real problem because Laura Loomer should not be taken seriously because Laura Loomer

03:34.590 --> 03:37.570
Well, I'm gonna be as safe about this as I can

03:38.010 --> 03:44.350
She appears to not be representing American interests when it comes to her dutiful reporting

03:44.350 --> 03:50.730
That's my opinion. So in short what we have in our upside-down funhouse image

03:51.470 --> 03:53.650
lunacy world is

03:53.650 --> 04:01.070
someone who appears to be in violation of farra, which is the foreign agent registration act that is

04:01.800 --> 04:05.520
representing a foreign government when it comes to lobbying our own and

04:05.520 --> 04:12.020
Doing so in an undisclosed fashion accusing Tucker Carlson someone who in my opinion does incredibly

04:12.540 --> 04:15.500
quality journalism and also is a

04:15.500 --> 04:22.740
Legitimate courageous truth teller the type that we absolutely need right now and accusing him of what they are

04:23.260 --> 04:23.760
guilty of

04:24.460 --> 04:31.360
Yes, accusing Tucker Carlson of being a foreign agent as she has been doing for many months now when it comes to guitar

04:31.360 --> 04:32.400
But now

04:32.980 --> 04:39.560
If Tucker is correct that this allegation comes as a consequence of his conversation with Iranians just prior to the war beginning

04:39.560 --> 04:45.700
Well, then it would be because he's in the employ of Iran or representing Iranian interests as

04:46.280 --> 04:50.100
Absurd and laughable as that is that appears to be what's happening here

04:50.100 --> 04:52.900
there are some people who are mad at me for my views about Israel and

04:53.880 --> 04:57.680
They have some latitude and one of the reasons they pass on

04:58.400 --> 05:00.040
criminal complaints in effect

05:00.620 --> 05:03.120
To law enforcement is to justify

05:04.280 --> 05:08.660
warrants for spying on Americans. So that is an absolutely real thing

05:09.380 --> 05:12.160
but the main reason they do it is

05:13.100 --> 05:18.100
to leak the existence of the investigation such as it is to

05:18.840 --> 05:20.120
the media and then

05:20.120 --> 05:26.160
Humiliate and terrify the subjects of this op and that's of course happened to me repeatedly

05:26.940 --> 05:28.100
many times

05:29.640 --> 05:30.920
including in famously

05:31.600 --> 05:38.540
2021 when I was still at Fox News and trying to set up an interview with Vladimir Putin and the NSA I heard from someone there

05:39.100 --> 05:45.100
Had grabbed my text messages with an American citizen and had leaked them to news outlets

05:45.100 --> 05:49.920
Those texts were basically my attempts to set up an interview with the foreign head of state and they leaked them

05:49.920 --> 05:56.960
To the New York Times in order to stop the interview which they successfully did by the way and they admitted that they were spying

05:56.960 --> 06:02.300
I mean, this is not a fantasy. It actually happened now a running theme throughout my show over the past six months

06:02.300 --> 06:07.080
If not the past year is that I've become convinced that the vast majority of

06:07.080 --> 06:11.880
Influencers are in the employ of either lobbyists foreign powers

06:11.880 --> 06:19.040
They are not truth tellers, but rather mercenaries and a good example of this is with Laura Loomer that she

06:19.040 --> 06:23.400
Just yesterday actually was in India. Yes

06:23.400 --> 06:30.020
Laura Loomer in India Laura Loomer who has just drilled into Indians for

06:30.560 --> 06:32.640
Years and years and years

06:33.140 --> 06:38.580
Appears to have been paid to go there and give a time prior to heading out to India to give that talk

06:38.580 --> 06:46.240
She deleted all of her very very hate filled messages about Indians before she got on the plane

06:46.240 --> 06:48.920
But that didn't prevent this from happening

06:54.170 --> 07:01.790
Resilitated wire call center. You then went on to say our country was built by white Europeans not third world invaders from India

07:01.790 --> 07:04.150
I think you should do more than just express regret

07:04.150 --> 07:07.730
From what I can see you're brazenly racist and

07:07.730 --> 07:11.290
Islamophobic and I'm sorry to say that we have a tituli

07:11.290 --> 07:16.750
They were power in this country where we welcome all but your comments smack of anti-Indianism

07:16.750 --> 07:23.890
Worst still Islamophobia and even worse racism, which has no place ma'am in today's world

07:23.890 --> 07:27.690
So get real ma'am. Sorry to say that but that comments are

07:27.690 --> 07:33.630
Unacceptable to me as an Indian and as a world citizen now as hilarious as that was and is

07:34.410 --> 07:43.070
It's also really disturbing because if she is correct in taking credit for these really slanderous

07:43.690 --> 07:46.450
baseless accusations against Tucker Carlson and

07:46.750 --> 07:52.850
with it leading to a CIA operation to spy on him and ultimately refer him for criminal charges

07:53.370 --> 08:01.030
It's disturbing to put it mildly that someone with a reputation like Loomer could lead to the

08:01.630 --> 08:02.050
unjust

08:02.950 --> 08:04.550
persecution and potentially

08:04.550 --> 08:10.810
prosecution of someone who I consider to be highly reputable and Tucker Carlson someone who I consider to be

08:11.250 --> 08:13.850
tremendously important particularly in this moment

08:14.510 --> 08:17.310
Particularly given his opposition to the war in Iran

08:18.150 --> 08:25.830
Particularly given his opposition to someone that he campaigned for and on behalf of for a very long time and Donald Trump

08:25.830 --> 08:30.770
and Tucker goes on to make the point that this is to be expected in times of war that you will have

08:32.470 --> 08:35.830
increasing hostility towards journalism you will have a

08:35.830 --> 08:39.690
Diminishment of our privacy rights our rights more broadly our first speech rights

08:39.690 --> 08:47.650
Obviously what this is and on a personal level I take this very seriously in no short part because I'm friends with Brett Weinstein

08:47.650 --> 08:53.330
In fact, I got a call from Brett about a week ago asking me. Well, I'm not going to disclose what we talked about

08:53.330 --> 08:57.450
It's not that relevant, but regardless in that same period

08:57.450 --> 08:59.570
I now know that he was almost certainly

08:59.570 --> 09:05.830
Scheduling his appearance with and his appearance of Tucker to be on his show in the following days

09:05.830 --> 09:09.810
And now I know that Tucker Carlson was being spied on by the CIA

09:09.810 --> 09:14.430
Which means that based off of our completely absurd anti-terrorism and

09:14.430 --> 09:22.210
Homeland defense law that would mean that based off of a connection that if you can normally the way it's supposed to work

09:22.210 --> 09:27.950
Just so you understand is that it's supposed to be that they have a right to spy on foreigners not Americans

09:27.950 --> 09:31.750
We are supposed to have privacy rights. I know it's a

09:32.270 --> 09:36.810
Laughably absurd claim, but that is what our founders intended with the Constitution

09:36.810 --> 09:43.670
But in the wake of 9-11 the way that they found a mechanism to circumvent our God-given rights was to

09:44.210 --> 09:48.750
spy on foreigners and if a foreigner had any context with an American

09:48.750 --> 09:52.990
Well, then they could then spy on them because they're not spying on them

09:52.990 --> 09:57.990
They're spying on them for the purposes of spying on a foreigner

09:57.990 --> 10:03.770
That's the argument as laughable as it is they take it one big step further than that by then

10:03.770 --> 10:11.030
Enabling themselves to spy on anyone who the subject of the operation of the investigation has been communicating with

10:11.030 --> 10:18.010
Which means that very likely Tucker Carlson's communications with Brett Weinstein would also be

10:18.650 --> 10:25.710
Under their purview and therefore perhaps my communications with Brett would also be under that umbrella

10:25.710 --> 10:27.150
now I'm not particularly

10:27.950 --> 10:36.290
Concerned about this because my communications with Brett are very benign and totally in pursuit of the best interest of this country

10:36.290 --> 10:38.130
so I don't care and

10:39.010 --> 10:43.910
Additionally, I'm not at all concerned because I already assumed that they were spying on all of us

10:43.910 --> 10:50.950
So, you know, it's just kind of comes with the territory particularly given the lane that I'm in and the topics that I cover

10:50.950 --> 10:53.910
It would I would be naive not to expect it

10:53.910 --> 11:00.950
It doesn't make it any less disturbing that this is where we are at as a people that our government spies on us

11:00.950 --> 11:08.490
24-7 that our government tries to scare the living daylights out of journalists who are in pursuit of not just the truth

11:08.490 --> 11:13.050
But in my opinion perhaps even more importantly peace. So I'll wrap with this

11:13.050 --> 11:20.090
I hope that you guys will stand up or and stand behind Tucker Carlson or Brett if they harass him

11:20.090 --> 11:26.570
Or me if they harass me, but I doubt it. I just I think it's really it's just a terrible precedent. It's a terrible

11:27.490 --> 11:32.270
Paradigm to exist under that they would think that they could do this to us that they think that they can

11:32.270 --> 11:36.770
essentially scare dissidents into being quiet and allowing for

11:37.790 --> 11:43.310
Illegal unconstitutional disastrous wars to be perpetrated without any dissent. I think it's a sickness

11:43.310 --> 11:47.330
I think it's a disease literally and we have to fight back against it

11:47.330 --> 11:52.270
So I encourage you guys to do so as far as I'm concerned Tucker Carlson has done nothing wrong

11:52.270 --> 11:55.970
There's been no evidence to the contrary that he has done anything wrong at all

11:55.970 --> 12:03.090
So just keep that in mind because I'm sure the reports are gonna be flooding your timelines over the next 24 to 48

12:03.090 --> 12:07.770
hours is a story just broke a few hours ago, and I would encourage you to

12:08.910 --> 12:15.190
Really reserve judgment until you know definitively what's up because I trust Tucker Carlson

12:15.190 --> 12:17.870
I do Iran does have a conventional military

12:17.870 --> 12:23.950
They are a proud and they are a big cunt possible case scenario is Iran says, okay, you humiliated us

12:23.950 --> 12:29.850
You killed all of our leaders. We're gonna go make this a regional mess and try to get as many people involved as possible

12:29.850 --> 12:34.950
They're gonna go after Americans. They're gonna go after Saudis. They're gonna go after everybody imaginable

12:34.950 --> 12:38.590
Just to create a big mess and to try to draw the world into it

12:38.590 --> 12:45.190
Just understand the Iranian people are widely respected and not necessarily are always in sync with leadership

12:45.750 --> 12:49.730
But if and when the people of Iran feel like Persia is being

12:49.730 --> 12:54.690
De-faced and humiliated and disrespected. We don't know where that is gonna go

12:54.690 --> 13:00.450
And that's my final reason why I am always skeptical of military intervention

13:00.450 --> 13:06.990
And when a lot of the sometimes warmongering wing gets too excited, you don't know actually

13:06.990 --> 13:10.690
You need to have a lot of humility welcome back to Liberty Lockdown. This is Clint Russell

13:10.690 --> 13:15.870
Thank you for tuning in once again. My mom came and visited so I took four days off to spend it with her

13:16.430 --> 13:20.850
Hi, mom. Love you very much. Let's get into the show. We've got look

13:20.850 --> 13:27.010
I've been getting a bunch of pushback on a few claims that I've made which is fine. That's normal

13:27.650 --> 13:30.270
particularly from a lot of people I like like Laura Logan, etc

13:30.770 --> 13:35.570
And I just wanted to show the clips because I feel like and in fact

13:35.570 --> 13:38.550
I was fact-checked by Grock and Grock said that no

13:39.310 --> 13:46.250
Trump and Heg Seth and Rubio none of them said these things and I was like, yeah, they have I have them prepared for my show

13:46.250 --> 13:49.350
Right now, so I want you to hear them and you tell me what you think years

13:49.350 --> 13:52.230
I've been killing our people and killing people from all over the world

13:52.230 --> 13:55.970
And I think we have great support and I think if we didn't do it first

13:56.490 --> 14:01.290
They would have done it to Israel and give us a shot if that was possible

14:01.850 --> 14:06.130
So first up you got Donald Trump saying that if we didn't do it first, they would have done it to Israel

14:06.130 --> 14:11.090
Did he say that they would have done it to America? No, it was Israel. All right

14:11.090 --> 14:14.810
Let's shift over to Pete Hegseth to our steadfast partner Israel

14:15.910 --> 14:20.470
Your mission is being executed with unmatched skill and iron determination

14:21.410 --> 14:25.970
Pete Hegseth says that your mission is being fought. It's like yeah

14:25.970 --> 14:29.390
That's kind of the vibe I've been getting and then on last week's episode

14:29.390 --> 14:31.850
I already played you the clip of Marco Rubio saying the same thing

14:31.850 --> 14:36.470
So we've got three basically you can't get any higher Secretary of State

14:37.050 --> 14:41.670
Department of War President United States all acknowledging that this threat

14:41.670 --> 14:49.110
This threat that we it was so imminent and urgent that you couldn't go to Congress to get congressional authorization for this war

14:49.110 --> 14:52.610
It had to be taken and particularly the threat

14:52.610 --> 14:58.810
Was against not America, but Israel so for the life of me

14:58.810 --> 15:03.610
I don't I don't understand why this is still such a contentious point. It's so

15:04.010 --> 15:11.650
Self-evident you have the highest levels of power in our government staying it day in and day out

15:11.650 --> 15:13.250
This is a war

15:13.770 --> 15:19.430
Not to our benefit, but rather on the behalf of our ally as they see it in Israel

15:19.430 --> 15:24.090
What's sad is when the whole world and Americans are looking at the situation and we know the reason

15:24.090 --> 15:31.270
Because you're beholden the BB Netanyahu. We don't know why we don't know if it's because of you're getting paid allegedly

15:31.270 --> 15:37.030
We don't know if you're we just know you're compromised in some way now far be it for me to agree with Charlemagne

15:37.030 --> 15:38.670
They got it that we rarely agree

15:38.670 --> 15:47.170
but I think that this is just more evidence that we've broken containment ladies and gentlemen like this is being discussed in

15:48.250 --> 15:52.710
Mass this is being discussed on both sides of political aisle right wingers left wingers

15:52.710 --> 15:57.210
Everybody's still having the same conversation. We are not in control of our government

15:57.210 --> 16:02.710
You know the people that are cheering on this war in Iran have no fucking clue why we're there. They don't care

16:02.710 --> 16:05.090
They're happy to just see

16:06.430 --> 16:09.670
Violence, you know, they're happy to see things blow up

16:10.370 --> 16:14.710
They're at a bar in Florida. They're excited about

16:14.710 --> 16:21.590
The Ayatollah getting whacked. They don't they don't know why they don't know what Iran did to them

16:21.590 --> 16:25.030
They're just happy to see violence and chaos

16:25.890 --> 16:32.550
They don't care that a tomahawk missile ripped through a school and killed a hundred and sixty five people many of them between the ages of eight

16:32.550 --> 16:38.050
And ten years old they don't care because many parts of this country are a moral black hole

16:38.610 --> 16:46.490
They are a moral black hole where there is no morality. They're amoral. You say well, they have they maybe they have bad morals

16:46.490 --> 16:47.610
No, no, no

16:48.170 --> 16:51.270
They have no morals. They're a black hole

16:51.270 --> 16:57.290
So you may be thinking that Tim Dillon is being a bit hyperbolic just for comedic sake. I don't know man

16:57.290 --> 17:06.210
We've got Alex Karp CEO of Palantir saying this is what our greatest export is at this current stage of Empire decline

17:06.730 --> 17:14.010
So that what makes America special right now is our our lethal capacities our ability to fight war

17:14.010 --> 17:19.190
That's right. One of the top performing stocks in America over the past couple years Palantir

17:19.690 --> 17:20.990
Cia cut out. Am I dead?

17:21.450 --> 17:25.730
Yeah, the CEO of that company says that what makes America special

17:26.210 --> 17:30.430
Is our capacity to essentially export violence our our capacity

17:30.950 --> 17:32.130
to kill people

17:32.890 --> 17:35.490
that's what makes America special at this point

17:36.190 --> 17:36.830
and

17:37.710 --> 17:38.030
unfortunately

17:38.030 --> 17:46.330
I have to agree now. I don't agree with the positive spin that he's giving it obviously that also helps line his pockets now

17:46.330 --> 17:53.730
Doesn't it? No, I'm just saying I tend to agree that that does seem to be what our primary economic exports are

17:53.730 --> 17:58.290
death and destruction and in truth, it's hard to blame the American people for

17:58.290 --> 18:05.630
Feeling as if this is some sort of patriotic endeavor when you have talking points like this coming from Fox News

18:05.630 --> 18:10.110
This is a short-term disruption for the long-term gain short-term

18:10.110 --> 18:14.350
Pain for the long-term gain short-term pain be for long-term gain

18:14.350 --> 18:15.850
We're gonna have some short-term pain

18:16.530 --> 18:21.890
With long-term gain short-term pay for a long-term gain some short-term pain

18:21.890 --> 18:28.970
Yes, but we've got some long-term gain short-term spike for a long-term gain some short-term pain for American consumers

18:28.970 --> 18:33.590
We may have to deal with that in the short term short term and temporary temporary

18:33.590 --> 18:38.450
short-term pain. It's gonna suck in the short-term. Some short-term pain. Short-term pain.

18:38.650 --> 18:43.010
We have to focus on the short-term. Short-term. Short-term. Short-term. Short-term. Short-term.

18:43.090 --> 18:48.070
Long-term. Short-term. Lip. Hopefully this is a short-term pain. Oh, I'm sorry. That's not

18:48.070 --> 18:54.050
just Fox News. That's CNN and MSNBC, and that's across the board. You remember when CNN and

18:54.050 --> 18:58.850
MSNBC would pretend to be the enemy of Donald Trump? Well, that all gets put to the wayside

18:58.850 --> 19:04.930
as soon as a war is afoot, in which case the talking points circulate, and everybody starts

19:04.930 --> 19:10.250
to sound like a parrot. But you might be thinking, well, Clint, I mean, sure, that may be affecting

19:10.250 --> 19:15.330
the older demographics, which still tune into conventional cable news. But what about the

19:15.330 --> 19:21.270
young? Certainly they're getting, you know, more truthful, hard-hitting information, right?

19:21.810 --> 19:25.230
I think the way you can look at this, I haven't heard anyone else say this, but this seems

19:25.230 --> 19:29.890
to me to be the war to end all wars. I know that that's like bumper-stickery and whatever.

19:30.190 --> 19:38.350
But it's the war to say, no more of this. No more state-sponsored jihadism all over the

19:38.350 --> 19:45.630
place. And once that happens, once these countries calm down and things start turning,

19:45.730 --> 19:49.770
and we know the Gulf states are thriving because they've put aside some of this

19:49.770 --> 19:54.650
jihadist lunacy, people will start being more successful and more successful, flourishing

19:54.650 --> 20:00.850
people are less inclined to become crazy radicals. And that's not what the people of Iran want.

20:01.010 --> 20:03.450
It is not what they had when they had the Shah of Iran.

20:03.590 --> 20:08.290
Yeah, that's a podcast. And he's saying, you know, no one said this yet, but it's the

20:08.290 --> 20:12.490
war to end all wars. You know, you know where that phrase comes from? Since he said no

20:12.490 --> 20:19.330
one said it yet. That would be H.G. Wells in 1914, describing World War I. Yeah, you're

20:19.330 --> 20:29.130
right. That was the first of many, many wars, a war, a century of total war, which is what

20:29.130 --> 20:35.190
the 1900s were. That was the war to end all wars. That began the 20th century, and we

20:35.190 --> 20:39.190
just had wars consistently throughout. Big news coming out on silver right now. The

20:39.190 --> 20:44.110
U.S. just added silver to the critical minerals list. What does that mean? This is an

20:44.110 --> 20:49.170
important list of minerals that are considered crucial, not just for security, but also

20:49.170 --> 20:53.910
for economic reasons. So when you buy silver to help protect your savings, you're also buying

20:53.910 --> 20:57.870
a critical mineral, really necessary for our economic survival. That's why I want you

20:57.870 --> 21:01.610
to reach out to my friends over at Gold Co. They're the number one gold and silver company

21:01.610 --> 21:07.310
in the country and they have over 8,000 five star reviews and they have the best gold

21:07.310 --> 21:11.130
and silver offer in the country. So don't put this off. Don't ignore the facts. Get

21:11.130 --> 21:14.730
your free 2026 gold and silver kit from gold coat while you still can and get

21:14.730 --> 21:21.850
up to 10% bonus gold or silver while supplies last. Just go to Clint likes gold.com. That's

21:21.850 --> 21:26.830
Clint likes gold.com. Again, one more time. Clint likes gold.com. Check it out. Now you're

21:26.830 --> 21:31.530
thinking to yourself, surely Ben Shapiro has learned his lesson after supporting the

21:31.530 --> 21:36.330
Iraq war and the Afghanistan war, the entire global war on terror. No, no, he hasn't.

21:36.610 --> 21:42.830
And I can tell you why, because this war is to benefit Israel, which is his true

21:42.830 --> 21:47.230
passion in life. So that's why he's getting this one wrong yet again.

21:47.410 --> 21:50.650
You saw 32,000 people shot in the streets. I know that we're supposed to forget about

21:50.650 --> 21:54.290
all that because opponents of the war, as we will get to our very, very upset about

21:54.290 --> 21:58.570
a girl's school that got hit in the war. And then we're supposed to totally pretend

21:58.570 --> 22:02.190
that the Iranians don't slaughter innocent Iranians at the rate of tens of thousands

22:02.190 --> 22:06.810
the minute they pop their heads out of the ground. The Kurds, for example, live

22:07.390 --> 22:12.430
on the eastern side of the border with Iraq. You have Iraqi Kurds on one side, Iranian

22:12.430 --> 22:16.110
Kurds on the other. We could see serious incursions into Iran from both Azerbaijan

22:16.110 --> 22:21.670
and from Iraqi Kurdistan by Iranian Kurds. And if that happened, there would be a

22:21.670 --> 22:26.130
serious challenge to IRGC forces. Those forces are now isolated from Iran

22:26.130 --> 22:31.230
because of the fracturing of the IRGC leadership class. Basically, with the

22:31.230 --> 22:35.610
destruction of the top levels of the IRGC, the lines of command have now

22:35.610 --> 22:40.070
broken down and you have specific IRGC areas governed by specific IRGC

22:40.070 --> 22:44.030
commanders. And so the entire structure could begin to collapse piece by

22:44.030 --> 22:46.930
piece. And if that happens, then more and more Iranians in the center of the

22:46.930 --> 22:51.570
country will understand that the moment has come for action. And finally, the

22:51.570 --> 22:53.350
United States could simply bomb until the bombing is done.

22:53.570 --> 22:57.330
Let me tell you, I'm not guessing at Ben Shapiro being wrong. We already know

22:57.330 --> 23:02.030
he's wrong because in that monologue, he says that there is an expectation

23:02.030 --> 23:05.650
or potentiality. The Kurds, after having been betrayed by the United

23:05.650 --> 23:10.050
States of America and undoubtedly by Israel as well, have already announced

23:10.510 --> 23:14.370
Yeah, we're not falling for that again. You guys pulled the rug on us in Iraq.

23:14.550 --> 23:18.690
You pulled the rug on us in Syria. We're not going into Iran on your behalf.

23:18.910 --> 23:22.710
No, thank you. But certainly we can rely on the left wing to get this right.

23:22.770 --> 23:26.590
He's basically saying, listen, we're Christians. We don't need to defend

23:26.590 --> 23:30.430
these Jews at all. Their holy book is irrelevant to us. It's just

23:30.430 --> 23:34.610
barbarism in there. Does Israel have the right to that land?

23:34.770 --> 23:38.370
Because you're appealing to Genesis. You're saying that's the original

23:38.370 --> 23:42.830
deed. It would be fine if they took it all.

23:43.330 --> 23:47.450
I thought that was fascinating and well worth watching. The way he went after

23:47.450 --> 23:53.190
Huckabee, based on a differentiation between the New Testament and the Old

23:53.190 --> 23:57.790
Testament, he's basically saying, listen, we're Christians. We don't have to

23:57.790 --> 24:00.490
care about the Old Testament at all. Right? There's just a lot of

24:00.490 --> 24:03.810
barbarism in there. He went after the whole Malachite business, you

24:03.810 --> 24:08.350
know, that's just genocide. Right? Like this, we don't need it. We

24:08.350 --> 24:12.730
defend these Jews at all. Their holy book is irrelevant to us. It's just

24:12.730 --> 24:18.330
barbarism in there. Christ is king. All we have to care about is Jesus.

24:18.750 --> 24:23.290
So you have to believe that the Democrat voting Sam Harris, who's also an

24:23.290 --> 24:28.250
atheist, ethnically Jewish, but atheist, he would obviously find Mike

24:28.250 --> 24:32.890
Huckabee's position that Israel has a right to the entirety of the

24:32.890 --> 24:36.990
Middle East to be laughably absurd because he's an atheist. He

24:36.990 --> 24:39.430
doesn't believe in the Bible. There's no way he could think that

24:39.430 --> 24:42.650
Huckabee is in the right. He would have to side with Tucker

24:42.650 --> 24:47.530
Carlson. He would have to. No. No, he doesn't because at the end of

24:47.530 --> 24:51.490
the day, despite calling himself an atheist, there is no person on

24:51.490 --> 24:55.610
earth that Sam Harris hates more than Muslims because there has

24:55.610 --> 24:58.130
never been a war in the Middle East that Sam Harris didn't

24:58.130 --> 25:02.150
support. Literally never. But we haven't ran out of hope yet. I

25:02.150 --> 25:05.430
mean, I'm sure, I'm sure given how much Bill Maher hates

25:05.430 --> 25:09.050
Donald Trump, he's got to be opposed to this, right?

25:09.530 --> 25:16.050
Also this week war. Did you hear about that thing? We bombed

25:16.050 --> 25:19.130
Iran and it's going on now. Have you expected me to say I hate

25:19.130 --> 25:22.790
it? I don't. Sorry. When he puts boots on the ground. Yeah,

25:22.950 --> 25:25.530
then I'll hate it now. I know too many happy Iranian

25:25.530 --> 25:26.630
Americans. Sorry.

25:33.050 --> 25:36.570
You cannot name one horrible thing that has happened in the

25:36.570 --> 25:39.650
Middle East in the last 50 years and not connected to this

25:39.650 --> 25:40.970
fascist theocracy.

25:41.310 --> 25:44.530
Bill Maher says there that you can't name one tragic one

25:44.530 --> 25:46.290
bad thing that's happened in the Middle East that didn't

25:46.290 --> 25:54.110
connect to Iran. Okay, how about the Iraq war? The

25:54.110 --> 25:56.570
Iraq war is not a war. I mean, I'm sure you get the look. All

25:56.570 --> 26:00.990
I'm saying is that is such an unbelievably biased position

26:00.990 --> 26:07.070
again, coming from an atheist, allegedly, who obviously is as

26:07.070 --> 26:10.270
bloodthirsty as anybody on the right wing. You will find

26:10.270 --> 26:13.430
basically sounds like Lindsey Grant. And what makes this

26:13.430 --> 26:16.770
worse and more irritating, despite the fact that we've

26:16.770 --> 26:23.030
now got 20 plus years of just disastrous quagmires in the

26:23.030 --> 26:26.670
Middle East, you still have this incredibly short term

26:26.670 --> 26:29.510
analysis that people are putting forward. We're just

26:29.510 --> 26:31.650
going to drop bombs and then we'll go home and everything

26:31.650 --> 26:35.910
will be fine. Well, here's the problem. Bill Trump today

26:35.910 --> 26:40.510
alone has said that we have now wiped out Iran's

26:40.510 --> 26:45.090
complete 100% of their military capability. He then followed

26:45.090 --> 26:50.550
up in the same post saying that the Strait of Hormuz needs to

26:50.550 --> 26:55.790
be reopened by the people who use it. To which I say, if Iran

26:55.790 --> 26:59.210
has been 100% militarily defeated, then why do we need any

26:59.210 --> 27:01.950
assistance? Trump then goes on to say that he wants the

27:01.950 --> 27:04.730
Europeans to help. He wants the Chinese to help. The

27:04.730 --> 27:07.190
Chinese are not going to help. We have already kicked the

27:07.190 --> 27:09.910
hornet's nest. It's like when your enemy's making

27:09.910 --> 27:13.030
a mistake, don't stop them. That's how they view what

27:13.030 --> 27:15.070
we're doing here. So, obviously, they're not going to

27:15.070 --> 27:18.890
assist. But moreover, the obvious real lesson here or the

27:18.890 --> 27:23.130
real truth here is that Donald Trump is lying. If Iran has

27:23.130 --> 27:26.430
been 100% militarily defeated, you don't need to be

27:26.430 --> 27:30.550
posting and asking for help by anybody else. You don't

27:30.550 --> 27:32.890
need help, especially with Trump. You know, he would

27:32.890 --> 27:35.070
love to take a victory lap. We did this all on our

27:35.070 --> 27:38.010
own and we're just the best. We're the best and it's

27:38.010 --> 27:43.010
over in two weeks and it was in and out. We're

27:43.010 --> 27:48.230
5,000 Marines to the region, which are likely going to

27:48.230 --> 27:53.150
be used to try and free up the Strait of Hormuz. Now, if

27:53.150 --> 27:55.870
Iran's been defeated, you certainly don't need 5,000

27:55.870 --> 27:59.890
Marines to release the blockade, right? It should

27:59.890 --> 28:03.010
be easily done with a dozen people. Nope. And

28:03.010 --> 28:07.430
here's the problem. In June of 2025, right before

28:07.430 --> 28:10.450
we decided to bomb their nuclear facilities, we

28:10.450 --> 28:13.050
were in negotiation with the Iranians and they were

28:13.050 --> 28:15.810
at the negotiating table with us and it seemed as if

28:15.810 --> 28:19.570
there was a potentiality for a real agreement that

28:19.570 --> 28:21.710
essentially lifted the sanctions that have been

28:21.710 --> 28:25.670
crippling Iran economically for years now, probably a

28:25.670 --> 28:28.910
decade. And in return, they would either allow for

28:28.910 --> 28:33.430
inspections again or give up their medium-enriched

28:33.430 --> 28:37.430
uranium. And during that process, yeah, we hit

28:37.430 --> 28:39.990
them hard. Now you fast forward to February of

28:39.990 --> 28:42.150
2026, just last month, just a couple of weeks ago.

28:42.610 --> 28:45.450
Again, we are at the negotiating table this time

28:45.450 --> 28:48.110
because the Iranians have already realized that we

28:48.110 --> 28:50.510
will kill them in the middle of negotiating. They

28:50.510 --> 28:53.230
have the Omanians. I don't know if that's

28:53.230 --> 28:55.470
what you call them. Oman is being used as

28:55.470 --> 28:58.910
intermediary to try and negotiate peace. And the

28:58.910 --> 29:02.370
representatives from Oman just the day before we

29:02.370 --> 29:05.390
take out their leader and their top 50 leadership

29:05.390 --> 29:07.890
and bomb the living hell out of them, Oman says,

29:08.310 --> 29:10.950
Iran has agreed to everything. They're ready to

29:10.950 --> 29:14.490
roll. All they want is to maintain a, you know,

29:14.510 --> 29:18.070
basically a civilian-level nuclear facility for

29:18.070 --> 29:21.090
medicine and whatnot. But no, we bombed the

29:21.090 --> 29:23.670
hell out of them. And what has come out since

29:23.670 --> 29:27.070
then is that it was Kushner, Jared Kushner, who

29:27.070 --> 29:28.970
had Netanyahu sleeping in his bed as a child,

29:29.970 --> 29:32.750
little conflict of interest, I'd say there, as

29:32.750 --> 29:37.030
well as Steve Whitkoff, who was the lead envoy

29:37.030 --> 29:40.050
negotiator with the Iranians. And the Iranians

29:40.050 --> 29:43.770
now believe that they were basically shipped.

29:44.350 --> 29:47.090
They were stabbed in the back while believing

29:47.090 --> 29:49.870
that negotiating towards a peace settlement was

29:49.870 --> 29:52.930
a possibility. In fact, it was not that. In

29:52.930 --> 29:54.890
fact, this was headed to war no matter what.

29:55.070 --> 29:57.550
So here's the problem just from a purely

29:57.550 --> 30:00.630
like setting judgments aside here and just

30:00.630 --> 30:03.850
analyze this with me under a game theory framework.

30:04.310 --> 30:06.950
If you are negotiating with someone and you know

30:06.950 --> 30:09.410
that they might kill you mid-negotiation, can

30:09.410 --> 30:12.330
you take them seriously about anything? The

30:12.330 --> 30:15.430
answer is no. And that is where the Iranians

30:15.430 --> 30:18.550
and honestly the rest of the world is now

30:18.550 --> 30:22.990
feeling and having to reassess and interact

30:22.990 --> 30:25.770
with America under the presumption that you

30:25.770 --> 30:28.010
are not a good faith actor, that in fact you

30:28.010 --> 30:31.170
are just setting us up to be murdered. So

30:31.170 --> 30:32.810
under that paradigm, that means that

30:32.810 --> 30:35.370
peace negotiations cannot be fruitful

30:35.370 --> 30:37.750
because you cannot trust anything that

30:37.750 --> 30:40.670
America or Israel has to say, which is

30:40.670 --> 30:43.010
obviously the rational position to hold.

30:43.230 --> 30:45.070
And it's unfortunate because this is

30:45.070 --> 30:48.030
oftentimes how we're told to perceive the

30:48.030 --> 30:49.590
Iranians that they're irrational, that

30:49.590 --> 30:52.210
they're prepared to, you know, blow up

30:52.210 --> 30:53.710
their entire country as long as it

30:53.710 --> 30:55.910
injures one American or one Israeli.

30:55.910 --> 30:58.190
And it's like, well, who's the irrational

30:58.190 --> 31:00.170
actor? If our side is the one who's willing

31:00.170 --> 31:03.010
to murder our negotiation partners,

31:03.410 --> 31:05.630
mid-negotiation and bomb the hell out of a

31:05.630 --> 31:08.390
country, mid-negotiation, well then who's

31:08.390 --> 31:10.770
the irrational one? Who's the one that's

31:10.770 --> 31:12.950
reckless? I would argue it's pretty

31:12.950 --> 31:15.270
clearly us. So now under game theory,

31:15.590 --> 31:17.290
the only thing that you have, the only

31:17.290 --> 31:19.750
chip or card you have to play, given

31:19.750 --> 31:21.670
that you are terribly outmaned but

31:21.670 --> 31:24.010
you do have, you know, very difficult

31:24.010 --> 31:26.370
terrain to invade, you have a capacity to

31:26.370 --> 31:27.710
defend yourself but you don't have

31:27.710 --> 31:30.570
really any capacity to harm America, at

31:30.570 --> 31:32.970
least not on our homeland. The only card

31:32.970 --> 31:35.310
that the Iranians are left to play is

31:35.310 --> 31:38.050
to close the Strait of Hormuz, which

31:38.050 --> 31:39.510
today they announced that they will be

31:39.510 --> 31:41.870
closing it for at minimum three months.

31:42.570 --> 31:43.870
Now as I've already told you guys in

31:43.870 --> 31:45.910
prior episodes, the Strait of Hormuz

31:45.910 --> 31:48.110
is responsible for 30 percent of the

31:48.110 --> 31:51.750
oil transit of the world every single

31:51.750 --> 31:53.590
day. So if Trump is lying about his

31:53.590 --> 31:55.770
capacity to open up the Strait of Hormuz,

31:56.230 --> 31:58.870
that means we are in for a world of hurt

31:58.870 --> 32:02.010
economically, like catastrophic. We're

32:02.010 --> 32:04.410
talking 200 plus dollars per barrel of

32:04.410 --> 32:06.690
oil, which would have cascading effects

32:06.690 --> 32:08.750
throughout not just our stock market,

32:08.950 --> 32:10.550
but through the global economy, but

32:10.550 --> 32:12.710
through every single product we buy

32:12.710 --> 32:14.870
because as you probably are aware, so

32:14.870 --> 32:17.910
much of what we consume has oil in

32:17.910 --> 32:19.130
it or in the production of it. But

32:19.130 --> 32:21.450
here's the tragedy, this is the only

32:21.450 --> 32:24.270
card Iran has to play. If you recognize

32:24.270 --> 32:26.610
that your negotiating partner cannot be

32:26.610 --> 32:29.250
reasoned with, the only card they have

32:29.250 --> 32:31.690
to play is to make it so painful

32:32.330 --> 32:35.290
for us, you and I, the people who don't

32:35.290 --> 32:37.510
even support this war, to make it

32:37.510 --> 32:39.790
politically untenable for them,

32:40.270 --> 32:42.670
Trump, Whitcoff, Kushner, the Israelis,

32:43.130 --> 32:45.930
to ever do this again, that is the

32:45.930 --> 32:49.270
only leverage they have. The Iranians

32:49.270 --> 32:51.350
have to punish us economically to

32:51.350 --> 32:53.230
try and defend themselves militarily.

32:53.790 --> 32:55.190
And I think that's exactly what

32:55.190 --> 32:56.470
they're going to do. The only thing

32:56.470 --> 32:57.770
prohibiting transit in the streets

32:57.770 --> 32:59.830
right now is Iran shooting at shipping.

33:00.190 --> 33:02.690
It is open for transit should Iran not

33:02.690 --> 33:05.190
do that. So in short, despite that word

33:05.190 --> 33:09.410
salad, yeah, we're fucked. They don't

33:09.410 --> 33:11.270
actually have a plan for this. And in

33:11.270 --> 33:14.330
fact, the Trump was warned by one of

33:14.330 --> 33:17.410
his top generals, don't do this, that

33:17.410 --> 33:19.310
they will obviously shut down the

33:19.310 --> 33:21.010
Strait of Hormuz. And guess what?

33:21.550 --> 33:22.430
According to, I think it was a Washington

33:22.430 --> 33:25.150
Post, I read the article from, Trump said,

33:25.590 --> 33:27.810
I believe that we will beat them so

33:27.810 --> 33:29.870
badly with this surgical strike, this

33:29.870 --> 33:31.310
decapitation strike, we take out their

33:31.310 --> 33:33.170
top 50 leadership. Obviously command and

33:33.170 --> 33:34.950
control will fall, the people will rise

33:34.950 --> 33:37.590
up. There will be no moment at which

33:37.590 --> 33:39.210
Iran is still standing by which they

33:39.210 --> 33:40.430
can give orders to shut down the

33:40.430 --> 33:41.610
Strait of Hormuz. This is honestly

33:41.610 --> 33:43.330
what Trump thought. That was wrong.

33:44.630 --> 33:46.430
And I'll tell you how stupid this

33:46.430 --> 33:49.130
is. This is a true story. George Bush,

33:50.290 --> 33:54.650
George H. W. Bush, the junior in 2003 when

33:54.650 --> 33:55.930
they were talking about, you know,

33:56.210 --> 33:57.930
Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran as

33:57.930 --> 34:01.390
potential arenas for war, George Bush

34:01.390 --> 34:04.370
was smart enough to say, yeah, Iran's a

34:04.370 --> 34:06.790
no-go zone because of the Strait of

34:06.790 --> 34:09.070
Hormuz primarily. Also because of the

34:09.070 --> 34:10.370
mountainous regions and making it

34:10.370 --> 34:11.410
impossible for a ground invasion,

34:11.410 --> 34:13.350
it's just ultimately suicide. There was

34:13.350 --> 34:14.690
top generals at that point that were

34:14.690 --> 34:17.150
threatening to resign over it, to

34:17.150 --> 34:19.210
resign over plans of a ground invasion

34:19.210 --> 34:22.070
into Iran. So this is a dead end and our

34:22.070 --> 34:24.790
our military brass has known that for

34:24.790 --> 34:26.290
decades. And this is going to be

34:26.290 --> 34:27.590
complicated, but I want to explain it

34:27.590 --> 34:29.270
to you guys because I had an

34:29.270 --> 34:30.630
opportunity to respond to Thaddeus

34:30.630 --> 34:32.610
Russell about this a couple hours

34:32.610 --> 34:34.470
ago. And it's just, it's very

34:34.470 --> 34:36.450
complex, but it's also, I think

34:36.450 --> 34:38.290
it's very rational and logical. So

34:38.290 --> 34:39.430
let me tell you what I think is

34:39.430 --> 34:40.710
happening and why. But it's

34:40.710 --> 34:42.190
important to understand how the

34:42.190 --> 34:44.830
empire actually functions. The American

34:44.830 --> 34:47.370
empire is clearly a real thing, but it's

34:47.370 --> 34:49.430
not so much a physical empire in that,

34:49.510 --> 34:51.450
you know, like the Greeks or the Romans,

34:51.690 --> 34:53.130
like we're going around and we're

34:53.130 --> 34:54.570
actually putting boots on the ground

34:54.570 --> 34:57.570
and we're conquering every square

34:57.570 --> 34:59.850
inch of land that we control. That's

34:59.850 --> 35:02.230
not how our modern empire works. Our

35:02.230 --> 35:04.470
modern empire functions under a more

35:04.470 --> 35:06.310
soft power, even though it's oftentimes

35:06.310 --> 35:09.690
brutal, but it's considered soft

35:09.690 --> 35:12.310
power sanctions, CIA, USAID,

35:13.310 --> 35:15.350
funding opposition parties, things of

35:15.350 --> 35:18.290
that nature, the more kind of less,

35:18.510 --> 35:20.430
it's not less overt. We're not actually

35:20.430 --> 35:23.270
just putting 500,000 troops and

35:23.270 --> 35:25.570
invading a country like Ukraine, for

35:25.570 --> 35:27.130
instance, our overthrow was done

35:27.130 --> 35:29.070
without troops or very minimal troops.

35:29.330 --> 35:30.910
And then the other tier of soft

35:30.910 --> 35:33.150
power would be that we negotiate

35:33.150 --> 35:35.610
with other countries offering

35:35.610 --> 35:38.470
security guarantees or financial

35:38.470 --> 35:40.230
assistance. Like, for instance, we give

35:40.230 --> 35:41.710
a ton of money to a bunch of Muslim

35:41.710 --> 35:43.730
countries to get along with Israel. We

35:43.730 --> 35:45.490
also have offered security guarantees

35:45.490 --> 35:47.490
to many Muslim countries to get along

35:47.490 --> 35:50.550
with Israel. I know. It's an interesting

35:50.550 --> 35:52.570
trend that keeps popping up over and

35:52.570 --> 35:53.990
over again. Like Donald Trump in his

35:53.990 --> 35:56.730
first term, I've heard Tim Pool and

35:56.730 --> 35:58.610
a bunch of people, you know, give a

35:58.610 --> 36:00.190
lot of credit to Trump for the Abraham

36:00.190 --> 36:02.150
Accords. But what really were the

36:02.150 --> 36:04.090
Abraham Accords? In my estimation, it

36:04.090 --> 36:05.990
was not so much about peace in the

36:05.990 --> 36:07.790
Middle East. It was about getting

36:08.250 --> 36:10.010
everybody in the Middle East who was

36:10.010 --> 36:12.790
oppositional to Israel to be under our

36:12.790 --> 36:15.050
thumb so that then they would allow for

36:15.050 --> 36:17.410
Israel to do what they did in Gaza, to

36:17.410 --> 36:18.710
do what they're now doing in Iran,

36:18.710 --> 36:21.370
which is why we took out Iraq. It's

36:21.370 --> 36:23.250
why we took out Afghanistan and Libya

36:23.250 --> 36:26.090
and Syria is that this is about

36:27.050 --> 36:29.490
another empire, an empire that is not

36:29.490 --> 36:31.270
our own that does not, in my

36:31.270 --> 36:33.290
opinion, benefit us at all. Now, I'll

36:33.290 --> 36:34.870
explain that in a second. But the

36:34.870 --> 36:36.450
key thing to understand is, as I

36:36.450 --> 36:38.330
said, our empire is not so much

36:38.330 --> 36:40.290
physical as much as it is coercive, as

36:40.290 --> 36:41.890
much as it is financial in nature.

36:42.270 --> 36:44.610
We use bribery. We use protection

36:44.610 --> 36:46.590
rackets to get people to do our

36:46.590 --> 36:48.790
bidding. So we don't control the

36:48.790 --> 36:51.690
entire world, but we control most of

36:51.690 --> 36:54.390
the world with this mechanism. And

36:54.390 --> 36:56.850
the underlying mechanism by which we

36:56.850 --> 36:58.910
control is that we are the global

36:58.910 --> 37:01.110
reserve currency. We're able to

37:01.110 --> 37:02.890
print money that has maximal

37:02.890 --> 37:04.610
purchasing power domestically and

37:04.610 --> 37:06.830
diminishing power as it gets pushed out

37:06.830 --> 37:08.530
into the rest of the world, but the rest

37:08.530 --> 37:10.110
of the world is required to use it

37:10.110 --> 37:12.590
because we'll kill you if you don't. So

37:12.590 --> 37:15.310
it's certainly an empire, but it's a

37:15.310 --> 37:18.350
modern variation of it. However, the

37:18.350 --> 37:20.010
reason I believe that our empire is

37:20.010 --> 37:22.030
being sacrificed right now is for

37:22.030 --> 37:24.450
another empire, an empire that is

37:24.450 --> 37:26.690
physical in nature, an empire of

37:26.690 --> 37:30.150
expansion, an empire specifically for

37:30.150 --> 37:32.990
Israel, not even for America. And it

37:32.990 --> 37:34.870
is very physical. And I'm not just

37:34.870 --> 37:37.210
talking about Gaza or the West Bank, but

37:37.210 --> 37:40.570
also portions of Lebanon and Yemen and

37:40.570 --> 37:43.290
probably Iraq, possibly Iran. I'm not

37:43.290 --> 37:44.830
sure at that point at this point, but

37:45.470 --> 37:48.370
Syria for sure. So in short, to put a

37:48.370 --> 37:50.190
tiny little bow on this, what I believe

37:50.190 --> 37:52.110
is happening is that we are

37:53.030 --> 37:55.870
jeopardizing our empire because, as of

37:55.870 --> 37:57.610
today, the Iranians have announced

37:57.610 --> 38:00.410
that they are willing to allow ships

38:00.950 --> 38:03.310
to sail through the Strait of Hormuz as

38:03.310 --> 38:05.130
long as they are selling that oil or

38:05.130 --> 38:09.290
gas in yuan. Yeah, that's a problem

38:09.290 --> 38:10.990
because that means that they are

38:10.990 --> 38:13.230
essentially blockading anything that

38:13.230 --> 38:14.930
goes through there that is being

38:14.930 --> 38:18.670
transited or sold via the US dollar,

38:18.830 --> 38:20.450
which means that the petrodollar

38:20.450 --> 38:22.730
reserve status is kind of massively

38:22.730 --> 38:25.550
under threat. The Iranians, however

38:25.550 --> 38:26.910
you want to feel about them, are

38:26.910 --> 38:28.250
playing for keeps. They're playing

38:28.250 --> 38:30.650
hardball and they're playing smart.

38:31.150 --> 38:33.870
This is exactly the lever of pressure

38:33.870 --> 38:35.290
that you would want to apply to an

38:35.290 --> 38:37.130
empire if you were trying to defeat

38:37.130 --> 38:38.930
them. Sure, we don't have the power to

38:38.930 --> 38:40.690
strike you domestically, but we have

38:40.690 --> 38:42.870
the power to undermine your entire

38:43.530 --> 38:46.110
shit, your entire operation, bro.

38:47.290 --> 38:49.250
That's about as hardball as it gets.

38:49.770 --> 38:52.690
So in summary, we are trading our

38:53.330 --> 38:56.430
soft power, dollar-based empire,

38:57.290 --> 39:01.150
on behalf of Israel's burgeoning

39:01.750 --> 39:04.270
physical empire in their region,

39:04.550 --> 39:06.710
their expansionary programs. And that,

39:06.910 --> 39:09.010
ladies and gentlemen, is why you would

39:09.010 --> 39:10.650
have someone like Miriam Adelson

39:10.650 --> 39:13.210
ponying up $250 million to put

39:13.210 --> 39:16.270
Trump into power. And this is the

39:16.270 --> 39:17.930
payoff. This episode is brought to

39:17.930 --> 39:19.390
you by Spreaker, the platform

39:19.390 --> 39:20.910
responsible for a rapidly spreading

39:20.910 --> 39:22.950
condition known as podcast brain.

39:23.550 --> 39:25.250
Symptoms include buying microphones

39:25.250 --> 39:27.470
you don't need, explaining RSS feeds

39:27.470 --> 39:29.210
to confused relatives, and saying

39:29.210 --> 39:31.010
things like, sorry, I can't talk

39:31.010 --> 39:32.250
right now, I'm editing audio.

39:33.050 --> 39:34.710
If this sounds familiar, you're

39:34.710 --> 39:36.130
probably already a podcaster.

39:36.790 --> 39:38.330
The good news is, Spreaker makes the

39:38.330 --> 39:39.970
whole process simple. You record

39:39.970 --> 39:41.890
your show, upload it once, and

39:41.890 --> 39:43.150
Spreaker distributes it everywhere

39:43.150 --> 39:44.730
people listen. Apple podcasts,

39:45.070 --> 39:47.010
Spotify, and about a dozen apps your

39:47.010 --> 39:48.710
cousin swears are the next big

39:48.710 --> 39:50.910
thing. Even better, Spreaker helps

39:50.910 --> 39:52.270
you monetize your show with ads,

39:52.510 --> 39:54.130
meaning your podcast might someday

39:54.130 --> 39:56.750
pay for, well, more microphones.

39:57.410 --> 39:58.810
Start your show today at

39:58.810 --> 40:01.570
Spreaker.com. Spreaker, because if

40:01.570 --> 40:03.010
you're going to talk to yourself for

40:03.010 --> 40:04.870
an hour, you might as well publish

40:04.870 --> 40:05.050
it.

40:05.550 --> 40:06.550
Now, as I covered on the prior

40:06.550 --> 40:08.770
episode, there is massive

40:08.770 --> 40:10.250
suppression that's going on, not

40:10.250 --> 40:11.930
just from social media algorithms,

40:12.030 --> 40:13.770
but also on the ground. It is

40:13.770 --> 40:16.350
illegal to post footage or most

40:16.350 --> 40:18.370
footage within Israel of strikes

40:18.370 --> 40:19.450
that are landing from Iran.

40:19.750 --> 40:21.130
There's also been a total

40:21.130 --> 40:22.690
internet blackout within Iran

40:22.690 --> 40:25.190
probably because they're afraid of

40:25.190 --> 40:27.270
subterfuge cyber attacks, things of

40:27.270 --> 40:28.590
that nature, but also to suppress

40:28.590 --> 40:30.650
dissidents that might rise up against

40:30.650 --> 40:32.110
them. But regardless, it's made it

40:32.110 --> 40:33.670
almost impossible to get any footage

40:33.670 --> 40:35.950
of what's actually happening there.

40:36.290 --> 40:38.230
We've also gotten virtually no

40:38.230 --> 40:39.810
footage of all of the damage that's

40:39.810 --> 40:41.190
been happening to American bases

40:41.190 --> 40:42.370
throughout the region, even though

40:42.370 --> 40:43.550
we now know that there's been at

40:43.550 --> 40:46.910
minimum 13 KIA on the American side.

40:47.110 --> 40:48.270
But there was something that took

40:48.270 --> 40:49.430
place yesterday that people,

40:50.150 --> 40:51.870
most people didn't even know what

40:51.870 --> 40:53.310
happened, but those that did take

40:53.310 --> 40:54.950
notice understood that this could be

40:54.950 --> 40:56.310
something very, very big.

40:57.070 --> 40:58.230
This is Scott Besson.

40:58.730 --> 41:00.330
I listened to you on the...

41:00.330 --> 41:02.750
It's because of what you...

41:02.750 --> 41:04.610
It's because of what you...

41:05.970 --> 41:06.850
Oh, okay.

41:09.050 --> 41:10.390
Okay, no problem at all.

41:13.170 --> 41:14.630
See you shortly, Mr. Secretary.

41:14.870 --> 41:15.670
You can work that in.

41:16.430 --> 41:18.570
Mr. Secretary, I have to say it's a

41:18.570 --> 41:20.350
first, I'm sure, a last as well

41:20.350 --> 41:23.230
that an interviewee has been pulled away

41:23.230 --> 41:24.450
to go to the Situation Room.

41:25.550 --> 41:27.090
How's the President? Was he...

41:27.090 --> 41:27.590
Was he stressed?

41:28.050 --> 41:31.710
No, the President is in great spirits.

41:32.390 --> 41:35.850
The Iranian mission is proceeding

41:35.850 --> 41:37.090
well ahead of schedule.

41:37.710 --> 41:40.150
And I have to tell you, well,

41:40.750 --> 41:45.010
that I'm a teenager who's considering

41:46.110 --> 41:48.910
military service, and I could give

41:48.910 --> 41:50.370
this team my highest compliment

41:50.370 --> 41:53.010
from President Trump to the head

41:53.010 --> 41:54.970
of the Joint Chief, to the Secretary

41:54.970 --> 41:55.650
of War.

41:56.370 --> 41:59.190
I would, they say, that I would

41:59.190 --> 42:01.530
trust my child's life in their hands.

42:03.150 --> 42:04.390
Now, for those that aren't familiar

42:04.390 --> 42:05.750
with Scott Besson, he's our Treasury

42:05.750 --> 42:08.730
Secretary, like top economic advisor

42:08.730 --> 42:10.050
basically to President Trump.

42:10.470 --> 42:12.530
So if you're not familiar with

42:12.530 --> 42:13.730
him, you probably don't know how

42:13.730 --> 42:14.330
he normally speaks.

42:14.930 --> 42:15.890
He doesn't speak like that.

42:16.450 --> 42:17.730
He was shaken.

42:17.730 --> 42:19.490
Like deeply shaken.

42:20.130 --> 42:22.090
And to have him pulled mid-interview

42:22.090 --> 42:23.710
tells you that it was something

42:23.710 --> 42:26.210
urgent to put it mildly, right?

42:26.490 --> 42:27.890
You don't pull one of your top

42:27.890 --> 42:29.610
spokespeople from an interview

42:29.610 --> 42:31.070
unless it's mandatory.

42:31.570 --> 42:32.910
And they said it was mandatory.

42:33.090 --> 42:34.270
So he gets pulled aside, he comes

42:34.270 --> 42:35.050
back hours later.

42:35.430 --> 42:37.730
And he's like clearly, like why

42:37.730 --> 42:38.610
does it go shaken?

42:39.110 --> 42:40.550
So there's two possibilities, in

42:40.550 --> 42:40.910
my opinion.

42:41.190 --> 42:42.910
One, and unfortunately I don't know

42:42.910 --> 42:44.050
what he said to that interviewer

42:44.050 --> 42:45.790
prior, maybe he said something

42:45.790 --> 42:47.930
that Trump didn't like.

42:48.450 --> 42:49.930
So he just went back there, got his

42:49.930 --> 42:51.510
ass chewed out, and then came back

42:51.510 --> 42:52.590
out and was all shaken.

42:52.930 --> 42:54.630
And that's why he conveyed it in

42:54.630 --> 42:55.030
that fashion.

42:55.590 --> 42:56.050
It's possible.

42:56.510 --> 42:57.750
The other possibility, and this is

42:57.750 --> 42:58.570
a very interesting one.

42:58.870 --> 42:59.750
Since that moment,

43:00.470 --> 43:01.850
Bibi Netanyahu has not been seen.

43:02.610 --> 43:04.170
Yeah, it's true.

43:04.750 --> 43:07.450
Also, there's another Israeli

43:07.450 --> 43:09.130
intelligence meeting or briefing

43:09.130 --> 43:10.850
today, which Bibi Netanyahu

43:10.850 --> 43:13.190
always attends, wasn't there.

43:13.750 --> 43:15.630
There was also a press

43:15.630 --> 43:17.310
conference from Netanyahu that came

43:17.310 --> 43:19.470
out yesterday that people are

43:19.470 --> 43:20.890
pointing out that he had six

43:20.890 --> 43:22.690
fingers, that he was missing

43:22.690 --> 43:24.810
teeth in one of the frames,

43:25.750 --> 43:27.270
and they're there theorizing that

43:27.270 --> 43:27.650
it was AI.

43:28.270 --> 43:29.670
So it makes you wonder.

43:30.070 --> 43:31.250
It really does make you wonder

43:31.250 --> 43:33.790
if Netanyahu was taken out by Iran

43:33.790 --> 43:35.390
and that they are covering it up

43:35.390 --> 43:37.670
for, I don't know what purpose

43:37.670 --> 43:38.710
you would cover it up, I guess,

43:38.770 --> 43:40.850
to try and negotiate an exit

43:40.850 --> 43:43.630
strategy, maybe, or to find an

43:43.630 --> 43:44.070
heir apparent.

43:44.410 --> 43:44.810
I don't know.

43:44.810 --> 43:47.010
Now, today Israel denied it, and they

43:47.010 --> 43:48.050
say that Netanyahu is fine.

43:48.530 --> 43:51.690
Okay, maybe, but regardless of

43:51.690 --> 43:53.270
whether or not that actually has

43:53.270 --> 43:54.890
happened, I still think it's really

43:54.890 --> 43:57.190
telling that you would have a moment

43:57.190 --> 43:59.450
where the Treasury Secretary would

43:59.450 --> 44:01.230
be pulled aside and then come back.

44:01.430 --> 44:03.410
Why does it go stumbling over his

44:03.410 --> 44:03.690
words?

44:04.170 --> 44:06.510
Obviously, like, shaken and looked

44:06.510 --> 44:07.390
like he was scared to death.

44:07.850 --> 44:09.810
And then you got to really, like,

44:09.910 --> 44:11.030
rewind back and listen to what he

44:11.030 --> 44:11.230
said.

44:11.630 --> 44:13.410
He says, I just want to say that

44:13.410 --> 44:16.450
I would, my son is of age

44:16.450 --> 44:19.330
for the military, and I would be

44:19.330 --> 44:21.410
proud to have him, you know, under

44:21.410 --> 44:24.430
the command of Pete Hegsath or

44:24.430 --> 44:25.090
Donald Trump or whatever.

44:25.230 --> 44:26.890
It's like, that was like a

44:26.890 --> 44:29.070
fealty test to end all fealty

44:29.070 --> 44:29.390
tests.

44:29.970 --> 44:32.070
Like, you, hey, will you let us

44:32.610 --> 44:33.850
risk your son's life?

44:34.310 --> 44:35.350
And he's like, yeah.

44:35.530 --> 44:37.150
And he's saying that in a very

44:37.150 --> 44:38.230
shaken fashion.

44:38.410 --> 44:40.370
So something to, you know, pay

44:40.370 --> 44:42.530
attention to is that there is real

44:42.530 --> 44:43.730
stress right now.

44:44.010 --> 44:46.430
And I think that it belies the fact

44:46.430 --> 44:48.310
that Trump is pretending we've

44:48.310 --> 44:49.130
already won this war.

44:49.230 --> 44:50.050
It's only been two weeks.

44:50.170 --> 44:51.730
They're 100% militarily destroyed.

44:52.530 --> 44:53.870
You know, everything's going great.

44:54.350 --> 44:55.830
There's short-term pain for some

44:55.830 --> 44:57.110
long-term gain, right?

44:57.490 --> 44:58.730
I think not.

44:59.290 --> 45:01.450
Now, I'm not rooting against us,

45:01.450 --> 45:02.830
as I've said many times.

45:03.310 --> 45:04.990
I am critical of Donald Trump and

45:04.990 --> 45:06.490
the Trump administration because I

45:06.490 --> 45:08.370
love this country and because I

45:08.370 --> 45:10.350
want us to succeed and prevail

45:10.350 --> 45:13.410
and be prosperous and free and

45:13.410 --> 45:13.790
peaceful.

45:14.430 --> 45:15.930
But the reason I'm critical is

45:15.930 --> 45:17.270
because we're not being any of

45:17.270 --> 45:17.730
those things.

45:18.290 --> 45:19.770
The dollar is dying as a

45:19.770 --> 45:20.590
consequence of our empire.

45:21.090 --> 45:22.730
The empire is dying as a

45:22.730 --> 45:23.830
consequence of our relationship to

45:23.830 --> 45:24.050
Israel.

45:24.410 --> 45:25.490
And some of the opposition to

45:25.490 --> 45:26.830
these wars has also been

45:26.830 --> 45:27.150
dying.

45:28.030 --> 45:29.510
And I'll maybe get into that in

45:29.510 --> 45:30.050
my next episode.

45:30.470 --> 45:31.530
That would be Charlie Kirk.

45:31.810 --> 45:32.550
And I actually had this

45:32.550 --> 45:33.710
conversation with my mom down

45:33.710 --> 45:34.690
at the pool today.

45:35.070 --> 45:36.530
We were talking about, you know,

45:36.610 --> 45:38.310
whether or not Trump is still on

45:38.310 --> 45:39.970
our side because, you know, she

45:39.970 --> 45:42.670
wants to believe or she wants to.

45:42.890 --> 45:43.270
She's hopeful.

45:43.630 --> 45:44.850
And some of the pushback she gave

45:44.850 --> 45:46.530
me on some of my criticisms was

45:46.530 --> 45:49.310
like, well, there are certain

45:49.310 --> 45:51.170
things that Trump can do and

45:51.170 --> 45:52.290
other things that he can't.

45:52.530 --> 45:53.670
So we just have to hope,

45:53.970 --> 45:56.110
basically a limited capacity of

45:56.110 --> 45:57.590
what he can endeavor to

45:57.590 --> 45:58.030
accomplish.

45:58.610 --> 46:00.150
So we just have to hope that

46:00.150 --> 46:00.890
some of the things that he

46:00.890 --> 46:01.890
endeavors to accomplish will

46:01.890 --> 46:03.350
be to our benefit.

46:03.530 --> 46:05.350
And what I express to her is

46:05.350 --> 46:07.410
that, well, I have no animosity

46:07.410 --> 46:08.710
towards Jewish people.

46:08.710 --> 46:10.430
It is so evident to me at this

46:10.430 --> 46:12.150
junction that, yeah, I agree with

46:12.150 --> 46:13.390
her that there is a limited

46:13.390 --> 46:15.710
amount of capacity of things

46:15.710 --> 46:16.630
that you're going to be able to

46:16.630 --> 46:18.270
accomplish, particularly in the

46:18.270 --> 46:19.110
first year or two of your

46:19.110 --> 46:21.170
presidency, and you're going to

46:21.170 --> 46:22.630
have to pick and choose.

46:23.010 --> 46:24.050
So which are you going to pick

46:24.050 --> 46:24.430
and choose?

46:24.830 --> 46:26.990
And what I think most Trump

46:26.990 --> 46:28.270
supporters are realizing at

46:28.270 --> 46:29.630
this point, or at least a good

46:29.630 --> 46:30.670
chunk of them are realizing,

46:30.970 --> 46:33.110
is that, yes, he has limited

46:33.110 --> 46:34.170
things that he can accomplish

46:34.170 --> 46:35.890
and the only things that he's

46:35.890 --> 46:37.330
really focusing on accomplishing

46:37.330 --> 46:39.270
are to the benefit of Israel,

46:39.650 --> 46:40.210
not America.

46:40.510 --> 46:41.830
When it comes to deportations,

46:42.450 --> 46:43.570
he says, you know, we're going

46:43.570 --> 46:44.610
to do mass deportations.

46:44.810 --> 46:46.790
Then it looks as if he's not

46:46.790 --> 46:47.750
even going to surpass

46:48.370 --> 46:50.390
Barack Obama's deportation

46:50.390 --> 46:50.750
figures.

46:51.050 --> 46:52.450
And why is he not going to

46:52.450 --> 46:53.250
surpass Obama?

46:53.590 --> 46:55.230
Well, because it's politically

46:55.230 --> 46:55.850
untenable.

46:56.150 --> 46:58.370
But then you have to ask

46:58.370 --> 46:59.190
yourself, wait a second,

46:59.610 --> 47:02.310
the war in Iran is super

47:02.310 --> 47:04.250
unpopular, way more unpopular

47:04.250 --> 47:05.930
than deportations.

47:06.710 --> 47:08.110
But you can still do that.

47:08.470 --> 47:10.310
Oh, but whose interest is that

47:10.310 --> 47:10.510
in?

47:10.970 --> 47:12.470
Oh, that's in the interest of

47:12.470 --> 47:14.150
Israel or in Adelson

47:14.810 --> 47:16.410
or your donor class more

47:16.410 --> 47:16.730
broadly.

47:16.730 --> 47:17.910
And it's like, oh, suddenly,

47:18.090 --> 47:20.010
suddenly the things that aren't

47:20.010 --> 47:21.390
popular get done

47:21.930 --> 47:23.210
if it's to the benefit of

47:23.210 --> 47:23.790
your donors.

47:24.070 --> 47:25.810
But if it's unpopular

47:26.570 --> 47:27.510
and it's to the benefit of

47:27.510 --> 47:29.010
Americans, you can't get it

47:29.010 --> 47:29.230
done.

47:29.730 --> 47:30.750
All right.

47:30.970 --> 47:32.270
Then you start to recognize

47:32.270 --> 47:34.630
like, oh, well, then clearly

47:34.630 --> 47:35.730
you're not on our side.

47:35.930 --> 47:37.330
Because if there is a limited

47:37.330 --> 47:38.350
amount of things that you can

47:38.350 --> 47:40.770
accomplish and you are opting

47:40.770 --> 47:42.290
to not do the things that you

47:42.290 --> 47:44.490
promised us, like not more

47:44.490 --> 47:45.570
wars in the Middle East.

47:45.790 --> 47:46.850
And instead, you're delivering

47:46.850 --> 47:48.730
more wars in the Middle East

47:48.730 --> 47:50.330
on behalf of your donors.

47:50.610 --> 47:52.070
Well, then you have completely

47:52.070 --> 47:54.470
abdicated your duty to your

47:54.470 --> 47:56.010
voters, to your supporters.

47:56.410 --> 47:57.370
And as I've said,

47:57.950 --> 47:59.590
the reason I approach this

47:59.590 --> 48:00.890
with such urgency, the reason

48:00.890 --> 48:02.350
I feel this betrayal so

48:02.350 --> 48:04.470
deeply is that we needed a

48:04.470 --> 48:04.870
hero.

48:05.770 --> 48:07.670
39 trillion in debt is a

48:07.670 --> 48:08.610
hiccup away.

48:08.810 --> 48:10.250
We're going to be 40 trillion

48:10.250 --> 48:11.210
deep in the hole

48:11.210 --> 48:12.590
by the end of this year.

48:12.910 --> 48:15.230
There is no time for fuck ups.

48:15.290 --> 48:16.850
There is no time for games

48:16.850 --> 48:17.510
or mistakes

48:17.510 --> 48:18.850
or selling out

48:18.850 --> 48:19.890
or being a fraud.

48:20.210 --> 48:20.750
None of that.

48:20.890 --> 48:23.110
You have to be real right now.

48:23.150 --> 48:24.270
And if you're not real,

48:24.390 --> 48:25.090
I'm going to hold your feet

48:25.090 --> 48:25.510
to the fire.

48:25.670 --> 48:26.390
And the reason I know that

48:26.390 --> 48:27.810
this is viable, the reason I

48:27.810 --> 48:28.730
know that this is valuable

48:28.730 --> 48:30.550
is because Donald Trump

48:31.130 --> 48:33.130
is he is surrounded by

48:33.130 --> 48:33.590
Yes, man.

48:33.590 --> 48:35.850
He is his voting base.

48:35.990 --> 48:36.730
The writer dies

48:36.730 --> 48:38.610
are largely sycophantic.

48:38.830 --> 48:41.290
They largely just praise him

48:41.290 --> 48:42.790
anytime he makes a mistake.

48:42.830 --> 48:43.690
It's 5d chess.

48:43.910 --> 48:44.950
Oh, you just don't understand.

48:45.150 --> 48:46.190
He's actually going to be doing

48:46.190 --> 48:46.530
this.

48:46.590 --> 48:47.910
Oh, you think that in the

48:47.910 --> 48:48.890
short term, this is a problem,

48:48.950 --> 48:49.950
but long term, he's going

48:49.950 --> 48:51.730
after Fauci, right?

48:52.370 --> 48:53.910
No, he's not.

48:54.130 --> 48:54.910
So at his core,

48:55.250 --> 48:56.350
what drives Donald Trump?

48:56.790 --> 48:58.170
Well, in my opinion,

48:58.170 --> 48:59.230
there's a distinct possibility

48:59.230 --> 49:00.290
he's being driven by

49:00.290 --> 49:01.570
his survival instincts

49:01.570 --> 49:02.550
that he's actually under

49:02.550 --> 49:04.050
threat, as Brett Weinstein

49:04.050 --> 49:05.030
talked to Tucker Carlson

49:05.030 --> 49:05.510
about yesterday.

49:05.890 --> 49:07.590
The golden pager

49:08.290 --> 49:09.610
that was given to President

49:09.610 --> 49:11.750
Trump strikes me as

49:11.750 --> 49:13.990
another Rorschach test,

49:14.310 --> 49:15.670
just like Beebe's statement

49:15.670 --> 49:17.810
after Charlie Kirk's murder.

49:17.970 --> 49:18.690
You can read it

49:19.550 --> 49:21.630
into totally different ways,

49:21.910 --> 49:22.170
right?

49:22.470 --> 49:24.030
The normal way to read it

49:24.030 --> 49:25.730
is that this was maybe

49:25.730 --> 49:28.890
a tasteless

49:29.630 --> 49:31.390
celebration of a successful

49:31.390 --> 49:33.870
operation and yada yada yada.

49:34.770 --> 49:36.050
On the other hand,

49:37.670 --> 49:39.090
it can obviously be read

49:39.090 --> 49:39.490
as a threat.

49:39.730 --> 49:40.630
I can imagine the meeting

49:40.630 --> 49:41.630
in which somebody says,

49:41.710 --> 49:42.750
hey, maybe we should send

49:42.750 --> 49:44.490
President Trump a golden pager

49:44.490 --> 49:45.890
after our successful operation.

49:46.490 --> 49:47.430
Somebody should immediately

49:47.430 --> 49:48.630
shoot that idea down

49:48.630 --> 49:50.210
and say, no, we can't do that

49:50.210 --> 49:53.030
because it could be read

49:53.030 --> 49:54.550
in another way, right?

49:55.290 --> 49:56.790
So anyway, as we are

49:56.790 --> 49:57.810
struggling to understand

49:57.810 --> 49:58.830
what is taking place

49:58.830 --> 50:00.530
in our country, why?

50:00.530 --> 50:01.290
I think it was received

50:01.290 --> 50:01.930
that way too.

50:02.390 --> 50:02.690
You do.

50:02.970 --> 50:03.210
I do.

50:05.270 --> 50:06.410
Well, you're not making me

50:06.410 --> 50:06.850
feel better.

50:08.130 --> 50:09.310
I mean, come on now.

50:10.350 --> 50:10.510
Come on.

50:10.630 --> 50:10.850
All right.

50:12.130 --> 50:15.590
You know, yeah, what was that?

50:15.670 --> 50:16.370
Now, it's important for you

50:16.370 --> 50:17.790
to remember that Tucker

50:17.790 --> 50:19.990
Carlson prior to about two

50:19.990 --> 50:20.850
weeks ago when the Civil War

50:20.850 --> 50:22.450
started had a really good

50:22.450 --> 50:23.510
relationship with Donald Trump.

50:23.830 --> 50:25.510
So when Tucker Carlson says,

50:25.650 --> 50:26.530
yeah, I think it was

50:26.530 --> 50:27.290
received that way

50:27.970 --> 50:29.430
as in as a threat,

50:29.430 --> 50:30.810
that's fascinating.

50:31.290 --> 50:33.090
That should be front page news

50:33.090 --> 50:33.830
nationwide.

50:34.450 --> 50:34.950
So in my view,

50:34.970 --> 50:35.870
there are two possibilities,

50:36.510 --> 50:38.350
either a Donald Trump

50:38.350 --> 50:39.850
is under mortal threat

50:39.850 --> 50:40.410
and there's literally

50:40.410 --> 50:41.530
nothing he can do to get out

50:41.530 --> 50:41.790
of this.

50:41.890 --> 50:43.710
And he's just trying to

50:44.230 --> 50:45.510
keep him and his family alive.

50:46.110 --> 50:46.530
Possible.

50:46.770 --> 50:49.810
Or B, and I am coin flip

50:49.810 --> 50:50.170
on this.

50:50.250 --> 50:50.790
I really don't know

50:50.790 --> 50:52.310
which it is, is that

50:52.310 --> 50:55.310
his ego has been satiated

50:55.310 --> 50:57.330
by the pro-Zionist

50:58.210 --> 50:59.390
orbiters around him.

50:59.670 --> 51:01.010
They've convinced him

51:01.010 --> 51:01.890
that he's some sort of

51:01.890 --> 51:02.810
messianic figure

51:02.810 --> 51:03.550
within Judaism.

51:03.810 --> 51:04.310
This is true.

51:04.630 --> 51:05.850
They say this constantly.

51:06.510 --> 51:07.410
You've got Mark Levin

51:07.410 --> 51:08.210
constantly saying

51:08.210 --> 51:10.450
he's the first Jewish president.

51:10.870 --> 51:12.070
You've got Lindsay Graham

51:12.070 --> 51:12.710
saying he's Reagan

51:12.710 --> 51:13.610
plus, plus, plus,

51:13.830 --> 51:14.470
and blah, blah, blah.

51:14.510 --> 51:15.450
And the more bombs he drops,

51:15.610 --> 51:16.410
the more patriotic

51:16.410 --> 51:17.510
and the more George Washington

51:17.510 --> 51:18.150
he is.

51:18.290 --> 51:20.130
And this is purely an ego play

51:20.130 --> 51:22.130
that they have found a way

51:22.130 --> 51:23.790
to manipulate Donald Trump

51:23.790 --> 51:24.730
based off of ego.

51:25.770 --> 51:27.310
So we've got two possibilities,

51:27.450 --> 51:27.810
as I said,

51:28.090 --> 51:28.850
mortal threat

51:28.850 --> 51:29.930
or it's an ego play.

51:30.210 --> 51:31.950
So as far as I'm concerned,

51:32.090 --> 51:33.430
there's not much I can do

51:33.430 --> 51:34.970
if this is a mortal threat thing

51:34.970 --> 51:35.930
and Trump is just trying

51:35.930 --> 51:37.190
to survive his presidency

51:37.190 --> 51:37.830
and get out

51:37.830 --> 51:38.750
and keep his family alive.

51:38.990 --> 51:40.310
Well, then how am I going

51:40.310 --> 51:40.870
to convince him

51:40.870 --> 51:41.450
of anything, right?

51:41.850 --> 51:43.790
But if it is an ego play,

51:43.870 --> 51:45.210
if he is selling us out

51:45.210 --> 51:46.010
based off of him

51:46.010 --> 51:46.650
being manipulated

51:46.650 --> 51:47.510
by his advisors,

51:47.510 --> 51:49.390
well, then the alternative

51:49.390 --> 51:51.450
ego attack that we have

51:51.450 --> 51:52.770
is to not

51:53.650 --> 51:54.690
inflate his ego,

51:55.090 --> 51:57.730
to call out as loudly as possible

51:57.730 --> 51:59.670
that you are betraying us

51:59.670 --> 52:00.930
and your legacy

52:00.930 --> 52:02.190
will be one of betrayal.

52:02.630 --> 52:03.870
And we expected you

52:03.870 --> 52:04.510
to be the hero

52:04.510 --> 52:05.970
that you marketed yourself to be

52:05.970 --> 52:07.110
and you're not that.

52:07.390 --> 52:08.890
And every fucking street corner

52:08.890 --> 52:10.990
you walk down in America,

52:11.410 --> 52:13.170
you're going to be yelled at

52:13.810 --> 52:15.710
for that exact purpose

52:15.710 --> 52:17.050
that we know exactly

52:17.050 --> 52:18.090
who you are

52:18.090 --> 52:19.190
and what you did

52:19.190 --> 52:20.470
and that you are a coward

52:20.470 --> 52:21.850
and a traitor to this country

52:21.850 --> 52:24.250
or you can be the hero

52:24.250 --> 52:25.710
that you marketed yourself to be.

52:26.150 --> 52:27.630
You can disclose the Epstein files.

52:27.750 --> 52:28.810
You can end the endless wars.

52:29.170 --> 52:30.750
You can go after Fauci

52:30.750 --> 52:33.070
and the entire deep state

52:33.070 --> 52:34.770
the FBI that tried to kill you

52:34.770 --> 52:35.350
probably

52:35.770 --> 52:37.430
like you can do all of these things

52:38.910 --> 52:40.310
or you go down

52:40.750 --> 52:42.490
as the greatest what if in history.

52:42.930 --> 52:44.150
What if you had had courage?

52:44.430 --> 52:45.310
What if you had been honest?

52:45.490 --> 52:46.690
What if you would actually pursued

52:46.690 --> 52:47.950
the things that you promised?

52:48.170 --> 52:49.410
So if it's an ego play,

52:49.590 --> 52:51.090
we go after his legacy.

52:51.090 --> 52:52.670
We say you either deliver

52:53.190 --> 52:54.410
or you are reviled.

52:54.830 --> 52:55.910
Those are your options.

52:56.410 --> 52:58.810
Be a hero, be lauded, be loved

52:58.810 --> 53:00.570
or be a villain.

53:01.430 --> 53:03.390
Be yelled at, be hated.

53:03.790 --> 53:05.150
So while obviously I'm just driven

53:05.150 --> 53:06.850
by truthful analysis

53:06.850 --> 53:07.870
of what I see happening.

53:08.250 --> 53:10.270
There's also tactical reasoning

53:10.270 --> 53:11.970
to the approach that I have

53:11.970 --> 53:13.230
is that I believe

53:13.230 --> 53:15.290
that if we can shift the zeitgeist

53:15.290 --> 53:15.830
in America,

53:15.830 --> 53:17.590
particularly amongst his base

53:17.590 --> 53:19.070
the people who he thinks

53:19.070 --> 53:19.890
love him still

53:19.890 --> 53:21.490
to say, hey,

53:22.030 --> 53:23.810
you're actually not delivering.

53:24.310 --> 53:25.970
You're actually not on our side

53:25.970 --> 53:27.350
and the clock is ticking.

53:27.890 --> 53:29.570
We are approaching the midterms.

53:29.710 --> 53:31.250
You're going to lose the midterms

53:31.250 --> 53:32.850
because you chose to

53:32.850 --> 53:34.090
instead of delivering on your

53:34.090 --> 53:34.910
campaign promises

53:34.910 --> 53:37.170
to deliver on your donor promises

53:37.810 --> 53:39.110
by starting a war in Iran.

53:39.490 --> 53:40.630
So the Democrats are now going

53:40.630 --> 53:41.110
to win the Senate.

53:41.250 --> 53:42.170
The Democrats are now going to

53:42.170 --> 53:42.630
win the House

53:42.630 --> 53:44.090
and you're going to get impeached.

53:44.310 --> 53:46.290
So now we're never homeboy.

53:46.870 --> 53:48.930
We have no time left to play around.

53:48.930 --> 53:51.030
We have no time left for 5D chess.

53:51.290 --> 53:53.970
We have no time left to just put all

53:53.970 --> 53:55.570
of our desires and needs

53:55.570 --> 53:57.710
and really necessities aside

53:57.710 --> 54:00.790
to assuage your egotistical concerns.

54:01.070 --> 54:02.250
We're not going to pretend

54:02.250 --> 54:03.330
you're delivering when you're not.

54:03.610 --> 54:05.010
And if that still doesn't work,

54:05.570 --> 54:06.390
well, then yeah,

54:07.110 --> 54:08.950
his life is probably under threat.

54:09.150 --> 54:10.350
And you can guess by who.

54:10.970 --> 54:12.010
If you enjoyed this episode,

54:12.050 --> 54:12.890
please do hit the like button,

54:13.090 --> 54:13.450
subscribe,

54:14.230 --> 54:14.930
leave a comment

54:15.490 --> 54:16.670
and share it around.

54:17.010 --> 54:18.090
And if you guys want to get cozy,

54:18.090 --> 54:19.090
go to mypolo.com.

54:19.350 --> 54:20.190
Use promo code lockdown.

54:20.690 --> 54:22.130
You can get a little spiff over here.

54:22.750 --> 54:23.510
All right. Love you guys.

54:23.790 --> 54:23.870
Peace.

54:24.210 --> 54:25.050
Jews have been kicked out

54:25.050 --> 54:26.230
of every country we've ever lived

54:26.230 --> 54:27.610
and it's never been our own fault.

54:27.870 --> 54:29.290
Subscribe to Liberty Lockdown.

54:29.490 --> 54:30.130
Great podcast.

54:30.370 --> 54:30.790
Clint is tight.

