No, but what you're saying is if you're gonna go to your state legislator in Ohio or Idaho or wherever
Stop calling it a chemtrails and say I want an end of cloud seating in high aerosol atmospheric spring
You have to call it what it is if you wanted to stop and even if they stopped that
You're saying that regular airplanes flying through the right condensation and a humidity amount up there are still gonna be putting white mist in the sky
Even if you ban the aerosol spraying the the the commercial flights and you're saying the high private jets up at 45
They're still gonna be putting them in there not because they're spraying chemicals on you, right? But because that's actually
ice particles pretty much right like
Yeah, all a person has to do is go down to like any body shop that paints cars
After they've been in an accident and go over to their air compressor
And and ask the guy. Oh, what's this little canister that's coming off your line right here?
And you'll go. Oh that that's the water that pulls the water out of the air
What?
Yeah, yeah compressor is a condenser
Condensers full water out of the air. We can't have water mixing with our paint
So if all these planes that we see in the sky are using compressed air guess what they're spraying out the back
They're spraying out fine particulates of water
Fine particulates of water at 45,000 feet where it's really fucking cold turns to ice. What does ice look like?
It looks like white little particles
So it's just like people just have to become they just have to understand like
Let go of the fear let your mind work a little bit
Understand yes, there's pollutants pollutants are not good for us
But if you're going out there every day saying oh, I'm being sprayed like a roach
But yet when you go out on certain days, you don't see any spraying. Well, they must have today off. It must be a holiday. No
The conditions are totally different use these things go to Jim Lee's website
Look at all the things that check out my live stream that I did with them
The live stream that has all of the the things is why so serious and it's spelled like serious clouds
And the whole I thought that was cute
So, you know it because he gives the four different
Websites that you can use and you put the plug-ins and you see you and dude
I'm just telling you for half a year. It's
It's on the nose every time like without fail
so
All right, Topher awesome to catch up man in the
The new year and the dead of winter we're getting about two inches of snow outside right now. We're getting dumped on behind me
Yeah, we had snow flurries this morning. So I had to move all my firewood in I
Spent all Christmas chopping firewood. It felt really good
Awesome, man. Yeah, we'll have a great talk today. You so you've got your new business out, which I'm really excited
Yeah
blackgoldbiochar.com people can go to
Bios, B-I-O-C-H-A-R in case you're like me and can't spell that
So it's blackgoldbiochar.com
And I'd love to get into biochar with you and then later on we're gonna talk about
You're really controversial right now. We're gonna get into what our chemtrails versus aerosol disbursement and right all of that
Tell me about that man. Like so you've had a lot of people not following you and I've had a lot of people saying
What are you hanging out with tolfer for he's a chemtrail denier?
Yeah, you're asking some questions
Yeah, well, I mean to defining terms and defining terms correctly and using the correct lexicon. I mean
So a few years back I was introduced to Jim Lee's work and he runs
a
climateviewer.org and also I believe the website's history of weather modification calm something like that and
You know, he was very controversial and triggering to me
But all everything that he was telling me about that I was looking into was true
And so last year I did the Pepsi challenge with him and I was like look Jim, you know
The chemtrails are I see them all the time and he goes, yeah, of course you see them
But they're not chemtrails
And I'm like, well, what is it that I'm seeing and he says mostly what the streaks in the sky that you're seeing are is pollution
And I'm like, how can that be and I was going through all my, you know, true
Thirtness and like, you know, just really burying the lead with him and
He's like and he knew a little bit of my history, you know, one of my really good friends growing up
They actually ran the the jet fuel company in Fort Lauderdale, Florida
And for those of you that don't know Fort Lauderdale, Florida is a very interesting
Place it's just north of Miami in South Florida and there's a lot of executive air traffic there
But my friend actually sold jet fuel to all of them. His father you mean like high-flying Lear jets, right?
Like private. Yeah. Yeah. So and then my very first dome client in Costa Rica. He flew Gulfstream mates
So like I have insider baseball knowledge like I literally like like I I know these cats, right?
And he got and he said, you know, there's ten times the amount of
You know, we call them Lear jets, but you know, let's just call them private jets
There's 10x the amount of private jet flight that they're that there has that there was 30 years ago
And I was like, you know what? You're right because in Fort Lauderdale. I grew when I was growing up close to 40 years ago
There was only one executive airport and now there's eight
and
And the jet the the person I knew that was selling the jet fuel is a very very wealthy person now
Well, because I don't want to get into the jet fuel hoax because I already got care
No, but I believe in the jet fuel hoax
Yeah, but by the way, no, no, but the Lear jets are not using compressed air, right? They're using actual gas or what?
No, no, they're using both this thing like people are always like they there's like it's all or nothing
It's like no, it's like a hybrid car. It uses both
Gasoline and the gasoline generates electricity. It's just like in these jets
They use a little bit of fuel to get the compressor spooled up the compressor spool up and now they run on the compressed air
It's both. It's it's and both. It's not either or like this is what is so infuriating to me
So gently, you know, Jim Lee brings us to my to my attention. I look into it. It's true
There's at least out of South Florida. There's eight and a half X times the amount of small these small jets
Well, my client who was a good friend of mine that I built for like I had, you know
Very intimate conversations with him. He's like, yeah, we actually, you know, all of us in the Lear jets
He was in them. I believe he was in the Gulf Stream
He flew Gulf Stream 7s and then Gulf Stream 8s. They're cruising out to do 42,000 feet
Yeah, that's crazy because commercials are at 30 33 somewhere around there
Yeah, when they go long distances, they get up to 36 and so
So I've been studying hydrodynamics for 20 years ever since coming across Shaw burger and then when you start to get into
hydrodynamics and I've been into the plane construction and engineering ever since as a little kid
When you look at the sky just because you can supposedly see far you're looking through layers and layers and layers of
different pressure gradients in the air that we look through is a fluid when you're
engineering something to move through air you're actually
engineering it to move through a very a
very
Non-dense fluid, but it's still a fluid. Okay, so when we're looking up in the sky
There's it's a layered cake. There's like layer after layer after layer and Jim's like look the software
We have now can show the different layers of wit where there's different barometric pressures and humidity
And we can pretty much flight track everything and I checked him on that
I was like, oh, there's no way the military is telling you what they're flying
He's like even with even without that
You can still see the majority of the flights and the things that are up there
You can see them like it's all all the data is up there
And now with all the different layering that there is and by the way, Jim Lee isn't perfect
He thinks we're on a ball all these things. I get it. None of us are perfect. None of us have the whole thing but
specifically when it comes to chemtrails he goes
You have friends in Tennessee
You have friends in Florida. They just passed this legislation
Have any of them said that the chemtrails have disappeared?
And I'm like, no, they said it's it's the same he goes. Why is that?
And my wife and I have been studying law for, you know, 10 years now
It's because the term chemtrail is a not it's a non-starter. It doesn't mean anything
It was a word that was fed to us, you know by the same people that you know, like that fed the term conspiracy theorist
It was a word fed to us so that we would be describing a phenomenon
Incorrectly and when we describe that phenomenon
Incorrectly and then we get all emotional about it
And then we try and like go and you know be an active agent of change
It doesn't do anything
It won't actually change our environment. And so he said like the
From a lawful and legal perspective. There's two things that you're there's three things that we're seeing
We're seeing high
Atmospheric aerosol dispersants. That's probably like this woman that you were talking about that. Yeah
We'll talk because they didn't hear us off-screen. So there was this if I can find the clip
I'll edit it in she's like that she ordered supplies for like the Air Force whatever, you know
For the aerosol disbursement program and it's the thing about the strontium barium and aluminum
That's what all the right now people know you to call it Ken trail
And she said yeah when I looked into it. These are the things I was ordering so but what you're saying is important
It's a nuance that you just said to me off-camera. You said it's like saying all lights in the sky are aliens
So that's what's saying chemtrail
So not every plane in the sky that makes a tale of shit that spreads out into a white mist is doing aerosol
Dispersed man. That's right, right
Right, exactly. And that's the thing I'm trying to say. I'm not trying to say that the streaks in the sky are good
I've never said that most of the streaks in the sky that you see are our pollution
and the thing that Jim also brings up is that they
Intentionally changed the jet fuel in 1996
To have barium to have strontium because when you look into the you the UN agenda 20
Agenda 21 and then it's a dendem agenda 2030 when you look into it and I have looked into I've literally read the white papers of
the agenda 21 the way human is designated is a biofilter
Like that's what humans are designated as that's why so many poisons can be put in the in our in our
In our environment is because they're literally looking to our body to be the filter
So I'm not under any illusion. I'm not like a Pollyanna being like, oh, you know, it's all you know
Sunshine and puppy dogs. It's just like let's define terms correctly
So when things are being sprayed at 40,000 feet plus up way way way up there
That's a high atmospheric aerosol dispersant
Another thing is is like because we have so many private jets flying now
They're flying very very high their average altitude of a Gulf Stream
7 or Gulf Stream 8 they have Gulf Stream 8 now
There are cruising altitudes 42,000 feet. Well, guess what people? It's really cold out there
Now I've been in construction for 20 years. I I
Professionally paint buildings
What do I have to do when I have compressed air and I'm spraying paint onto something
I have to put this massive
Bypass filter on the compressed air before it gets to the paint to get rid of what to get rid of water
Because when you compress air guess what occurs it sucks in all the atmospheric humidity into it and compresses that also
So what do you think is happening?
When they're up there at very very high altitudes and they're using compressed air as fuel
It's not hot exhaust like that like some of it's hot exhaust, but I'm of the mind like you and Ross are
They're not using much fuel, but they are using compressed air
They admit it. That's not like I can I hate like people are like
You know people who okay if you don't believe in the jet fuel hoax fine
But even their manufacturing videos show you cartoons where they admit they're using compressed air
It's not even a conspiracy theory, you know, it's like yeah, they're literally they're doing
They're literally using Victor Schauburger
compression
Like everything that Schauburger showed from the side cut of the trout
You know swimming in the water and now that the trout was sucked towards the
Forward I watched these demo flights of the 777s and the 787s and they were literally showing these things hovering
There's no way if that that plane was using
Acceleration to have the Bernoulli principle of air going over the top of the wing to give lift
That's not so it's not what's happening
They can use that
But a lot of these massive planes now they're flying at these ultra-high altitudes
They're literally being pulled forward because that I don't know the proper term
I don't want to miss what we call an engine
The reason the only way that that engine could be prop so far forward ahead of the wing is
If it if it's being if it's being used to pull and not push
Because if it was pushing that thrust hitting the bottom of the wing would deform the wing
Well, it's not propulsion. It's like implosion technology. That's exactly my point
That can this I can't remember this whatever Gurengi route once you push it. It's it's in it's input impelling
Impelling not propelling and that's that's the thing. I'm talking about is like I know like I know all about implosion
I've literally built
ram pumps as a profession as a builder in the side of a mountain in Costa Rica like I've used
Implosive devices and it's sucking suction has if given the same amount of volume
Suction has 40 times the power that that explosion does or pushing
So nature uses implosion all the time any of us have impregnated a woman you feel the moment you've impregnated her
Like it's a totally different thing than just rando sex like when a child is being made and that that
Seed is planted. It's a suction. You feel like you're like I don't know about you Steve
I know you've had kids but like like it's it's
It's a thing. Okay, that implosion is occurring the energy all collapses in the field and boom you have a lot of extra energy
So these planes a lot of the planes that we're using one
We have a lot more planes than we used to like just looking back into the early 90s
We have three and a half times the amount of commercial flights
Yeah, I think four even four times more commercial flights, and then you're saying eight to ten times more
Private jet flights and then the pollution
Exactly parking charts as well and here's another thing
This is like this is very close to my heart because I had I went to war in this in college, right?
Where my family was from in the Appalachians in North Carolina there?
There was incredible acid rain and in the Reagan administration
They put these scrubbers on the on the coal, you know on the coal plants, right?
And they're like, oh the scrubbers clean the air they didn't do anything
They just caused the acid rain to go further down range because all it did was rarify
the pollution
Well, so what we're looking at the reason why the the sky gets this albedo effect, okay?
Is because this pollution is more rarefied now?
Albedo means whitening for people who aren't alchemical listening the rest of the sky turns to a white mist instead of blue
Is this yes?
And this is all been a big big plan and I don't think any of it's good
But the plan like I read this straight from NASA. I don't believe NASA sends anything into space
They work on space. We live in space for me to move my arms. I'm in space right now
So their their space program is really like working on how to engineer the sky in
NASA like flat out in all the big publications popular mechanics popular science
And wired magazine in the early 2000s. We're like, oh, we're just gonna store the water in the sky
We don't we don't need to we don't need to have these massive water tanks, you know on the ground anymore
We don't we don't need that anymore
We're just gonna store the water in the sky and when we need it in a certain area
We can drop it like flat out. I mean that was in like mainstream USA publications that I read
Okay, so put it all together
There's more flights up there
Okay
The sky has been engineered. They are actively doing geoengineering. I build I'm a geoengineer
I build with Earth. I literally like take her
Reshape it and then make something out of it. Okay as a geoengineer
I'm telling you we're all always terraforming like this. We're on like terra terra firma is
being terraformed
That the water the big thing ever since the commodities market came online in Chicago where they put water on the commodities market
They've essentially
commoditized space
Space as in this the the volume the rivers above us
I think it was Cliff high originally said in 2007 or 2008 with his web bot project back then that he was like
yeah, I keep seeing in the in the in the
Internet space like this atmospheric rivers atmospheric rivers
Well atmospheric rivers became a thing because the number one, you know geoengineering company in the world NASA
Was like yeah, we're gonna start putting rivers in the sky like duh
and so if you have more humidity and more layers of humidity in the sky
Because the number one geoengineering company in the world says hey, we're gonna put more humidity more water in the sky
And then you have these planes that are fine more planes flying through
Emitting rarer and rarer condensation nuclei. Guess what you're gonna get more and more and more of you're gonna get
streaks in the sky
So let's call the streaks what they are they're
iatmosphere
aerosol dispersants which the military does they do do that
The majority of what you see up there is just pollution from air traffic
And then there's the third thing which is the low-flying cloud seating which we all know about
I mean, that's a you know, they've used that in agriculture forever. In fact after the floods in Texas last year
I think Jim Lee immediately interviewed the that was kind of sus to me that he interviewed the
President of that cloud seating company in in mid, Texas and he was like yeah flat out
Yeah, we put like we only put like you know five pounds of silver. I died out there
But they did it in nanoparticulates in nanoparticulates guess what they can spread very far very fast
And you know really change things very fast and they don't come down. They stay up there
They're still shit up from volcanic eruptions like years ago that are still floating up there. I literally I literally broke
the my AI
Because I was I was bringing up the fact that hey, you know, I I literally my company makes
Essentially, you know bulk graphene, you know biochar is pyrolyzed carbon
It is the negrito phase of a reduction of an alchemical reduction
And when you get carbon all the way down and you make it to its most inert phase and you do it without oxygen
You're actually making it the
Premogenitor you're making it the premium material because all life is attracted to it it itself
Doesn't really have anything going on, but it has all these nano and micro diamonds within it
So like I don't know. I mean, I know you you and I like to tip one back every once in a while
Whenever you have like a good whiskey or a good scotch that's been decanted in like a crystal vase
It tastes completely different than if you have, you know, if it just comes out of like a plastic cup
And the reason why is that crystal as the light travels through the crystal it in
imprints the the
Spirit let's say with a with a higher vibration
Well biochar at a micro level has tons and tons of diamonds in it
And because it has such an incredibly high it has the highest
Diabagnetic charge that there is it's akin to water because water is also
Diabagnetic
So it's birds of a feather flock together. So you're essentially creating this this housing for water
That is also on on a micro level
Structuring it with diamonds
It's like just like putting it in a diamond boss
I would like that's like why the biochar holds like 20 percent more water in the soil when you use biochar
You're actually a lot of water so much right or is it even more than that or what?
It holds a lot more than that like that's how we're allowed to legally talk about
Is there a law about how my like I?
I well
There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that we have of things that we can't like
Prove because there's them not like the terminology out there for it, right?
so
But that's what's going on in the sky
So there are people saying that tolfer Gardner is a chemtrail denier and you're like yes
He is because chemtrail is a bullshit term
But you are not denying that they are spraying shit in our sky like silver iodide and barium aluminum
Strontium maybe have aluminum
But but a lot of the planes we're seeing flying that are leaving trails that just has to do with them flying through
layers of like a humidity break right and lots lots of humidity because
Without a doubt like when I use the software, you know that Jim shares and he shared with hundreds of thousands of people
This isn't like a one-to-one thing and I could be getting duped like anybody could use this software
Like and it's on on normal sites, you know, it's not like, you know secret, you know dark web shit
It's like very easy to access and use
Literally when the humidity is below a certain level I see no chemtrails
Like not once right and you can see it in the software shows you even what altitude you will see them
And you just get it you said you did it the other day, right like yeah, just did it the other day
Tell me about I do I do it daily. I literally do it daily like it's my first thing I pull up windy
I have the plug in for windy and
Windy will show okay. It's called like a cloud like I've let me look it up right now. I have it right here
It's funny because Ross won't be having any of this like
You know Ross is not gonna be having any of this
He's totally down with like Jim Lee's controlled opposition this and that I'm on the other side of the fence where I'm I'm hearing what you're saying like
This I've seen your videos where you're using this software and it looks legit like regular airplanes
Are not spraying chemicals on you there, but they are also leaving
This whitening in the sky just because of the layer they're in there
It's not like like you said not all lights in the sky are aliens, you know, yeah, yeah
Yeah, go we have to use we have to use correct terms when we don't use correct terms
Like when we use her like you know, I I've been kind of schooled up by a few alchemists and a few masters at their craft and
Any alchemists and any master at their craft they really really
Hate it when you use incorrect terms because life is specific
so just like I brought up the example earlier Tennessee and
Florida they've passed no chem trail legislation, but yet
Everybody sees chem trails there. Why is that because there's no such thing as a chem trail, right?
So it's like passing a no flying unicorn legislation
Be exactly isn't a chem trail, but that doesn't mean there isn't cloud seeding
So they can still drop silver iodide and barium aluminum strontium, right because those aren't chem trails
those are cloud seeding and
Aerosol disbursement. What's the real term? We should be using high high?
Yeah, high altitude atmospheric
Aerosol dispersant like so you're saying we should have legislation against silver iodide cloud seeding and high atmosphere
aerosol disbursements blah blah blah, but because we keep calling it conspiracy theory chem trails
You can pass all the laws to ban chem trails, but there's no such thing because we're not really calling it the right thing
That's why I think people are confusing you with they think you're claiming that nobody's spraying any shit up there
And that's not what you're saying at all. No, but then I'm also like, you know, your work was instrumental because
You and Ross when you did the the whole thing with the jet fuel hoax, I know that to be absolutely true
Okay, so people want their cake
And they want to eat it too, and I just want the truth
So I know most planes are using very little fuel and they're using compressed air
I have technical actual expertise with running
Pressurized air systems. Okay. I know the biggest problem with pressurized air systems is small little water droplets. Okay
so
We have 4x the amount of you know normal flights. We have 10x the amount of high altitude flying
They produce so much more water droplets than they did say in the 80s. Okay, and they're very little water droplets
We also have NASA the biggest geo engineering, you know company in the world
Is essentially saying we're storing water in the atmosphere now. So we have water water water water water
When we look up there
Okay, we see like this albedo effect this whitening of the sky because guess what there's more water vapor everywhere
And now we get into the fun part. I've been into Wilhelm Reich for over 20 years
I've literally built that big gatling gun cloudbusters. I've done eight hours of
you know live streaming with
Martin Liedtke talking about the fascia that's on all this war heraldry and I'm like yes
They had Oregon accumulation technology like it's not just oh
We're stronger because we're a bundle of sticks all bundled together. No
They've always had sound sound technology, and then they've had this ability to manipulate the ether
So when you start to get into Oregon accumulator and you get into cloud busting and you get into actually, you know
You know active organ accumulators like I've literally installed into cars and
literally had cars in any system that actually makes contact
Or is within the field of the organ accumulator it goes to a higher state of order it goes to a higher state of coherence
How is this possible with both?
Biological things in mechanical things that makes no sense like when you talk to most people because most people want to be it's either this or that
It's because what organ actually is it's the first phase of hydrogen
The first phase of hydrogen from a chemistry perspective is known as proteam
What does proteam do to water?
Everybody if you start producing proteam guess what it actually
clears
water vapor from this space
The people boiling vinegar outside people using one of these big gatling gun
You know
They're making proteam to clear the water vapors. So that's why the chemtrails are gone
Precisely, so that's what these right, you know the copper tubes you aim up there and boiling the vinegar
So there is no water vapors, which is we're calling retardedly than a chemtrail
Because that's so when people put this in their yard and they say there's a mile space around you know
Which I've done and
You're clearing the the well that it's like that the vapors are there, but they clear
So there's like a hole in the sky over your house, right?
It's just like our friend Eileen mckusic said things of a higher coherence or things of a higher valence energy will always trump
Those things of a lower energy and that is so true
Well, there's nothing of a higher energetic state than this or go in this proteam the reason why will home right?
And Prana that's really another exactly she and Prana yet life
Really it's pretty much to eat there
Well, it's not really if it's it's it's literally the transition because now the big thing in everybody's mind is plasma
As it should be because the I think the plasma weapons are
Being in full force initiated, but plasma a lot of times you're dealing with that
Transition zone from you know meta material to actual material
so whenever you're going through that transition phase of like you know mind to matter or the
The the metaphysical to the physical you have this little transition zone and in that transition zone
That's the the nice place that a lot of these plasmas like to live
But what's fueling a lot of these plasmas is proteam because pros and proteam is the closest thing to plasmatic hydrogen
It is plasmatic hydrogen a lot of the time is a better way of saying it
But it's literally the transition like I'm a big fan of Ken Wheeler's work some of his work
And he's he once said this and it it brought me right back all the way to to Walter Russell
If any of you have seen Walter Russell when he did the periodic table
He was just essentially like every element is just an octave of the previous element
You know in a spiral and so he was able to make these predictions of all these elements that nobody knew about well
Guess what they're there because it's just he was looking at it from a musical perspective
Well, that means everything is essentially hydrogen matter is just condensed hydrogen and
Then when you look into what light actually is the light is a coaxial circuits a perturbance
How did Tesla said light is a sound wave in the ether? It's a vibrate a
Purt a perturbance in the ether. It's a vibration that's causing illumination or the appearance of it
You need to be able to perceive light
Right, you know, it's that thumb shade of a tree falls in the woods and no one's around here
It doesn't make a sound it never makes a sound anyway
It makes a vibration and if you right ears, then it makes a sound
But if you're deaf in the same woods and the tree falls right on your head. It still didn't make a sound
Yeah, I was just getting into this with Owen Benjamin last night like the whole thing he did this
Livestream that was brilliant. He said and you like this. I hope I don't
massacre it. Oh
Oh, I am gonna massacre. I have to lick it up. It was something brilliant
It was like the rhythm is the is the pitch and when he showed the like one
You just have a heartbeat and then you accelerate the heartbeat there. It gets really close then it becomes like a note
You know because a note is just a bunch of perturbances put together
You know compression rear faction at a certain frequency range and then our body
Transduces that into something either pleasant or non-pleasant, right? So
Light works the same way. It's just doing that on the ether side
But the light is inherent to that that
rarefied space
It's just that whenever something shakes in that space. Oh, then the light is emitted. Okay?
When it comes to plasmas and when it comes to Oregon
What Wilhelm Reich figured out was okay one life one quality is being engendered
There's more of this stuff like when a human has an orgasm
There's more organ in the field. There's there's like that that
Implosion that we were talking about earlier where there's this collapse
Into the field and there's more energy. There's a higher qualitative state of being
with that higher energy field, right and so that
And he was measuring it and they use it. He used his own term organ now
I mean I'm seeing like they did I got pictures from
Dr. Mari Arce of of my biochar with the black field microscopy stuff
This the thing that the bigglesons do
Dude, there's all the microzyma
Like in microzyma for you guys out there is that is organ and that is this light hydrogen
That is proteam that is these like little flickers of light that are going
Yeah, it's like literally transition from the etheric phase to the material phase
Yeah, we think of them like bugs or something, but they're they're not they're like the etheric
They're like exactly. They're like the metaphysical
Transitioning into the so-called physical. Yes be a light, which is just a vibration in the ether. There is no
There's no difference between metaphysical and physical except for the vibratory rate and the person or the instrument that perceives it
If you're blind, there's no light anyway, but you're still alive. You know what I mean? Like there is no light
You can't perceive it
And that's a big problem is like people because they can't perceive something they're they're they're unwilling or
Even like when people like I can understand people pigeonholing everything and saying it's either black or white
Because to them then they can just X that out and not have because they don't have the capacity to actually think about it
So my field I have so much field experience with active organ accumulators and active organ accumulators
both helping mechanical things machines and
Organic things like plants and animals and humans. Okay?
How is that?
Okay, and by the way with the mechanical things at first when I was first, you know
Putting these mojo cells and cars and dealing with Joe cells
We would do all these things to route the organ until we figured out the organ
Doesn't need to be routed. It creates a field
And what it's doing is it, you know, I just finally got the full gist of it after talking to Vita Austin is
That because when we see this with the biochar that creates a field it creates like a dome effect around it
And the reason why is it's structuring because of its high coherence. It's
Automatically it creates a field of coherence
And if it's if you have a mechanical device working within that that field of coherence
Guess what that mechanical device is more coherent
If you have a human in that field in that bubble of coherence that human now is being more coherent
Everything is is being worked upon and now like, you know when people buy hydrogen water and stuff like that
I tell them like don't do that
Because hydrogen hydrogen has like hydrogen is so small
Any any vessel that you that you have your hydrogen in it's gonna move through it like you might have 10 minutes
And before the hydrogen if it's not bound to something is out. It's Audi 5,000 like it's gone
so
Proteins even smaller than that proteins even even more
Ethiric than that
And so it goes so
You know before I even knew any of the stuff when it came to like when I really believed in chemtrails
I was like trying to figure out how
How I could have this like Gatling gun of you know copper and organi
Pointed at the sky and like literally have it punch a hole like how how is that possible?
Well, then I had to ask myself. What am I punching the hole through and
And and Wilhelm Reich was emphatic
He's like if you really want these things to be powerful you have to like have them grounded into a source of water
And so what's happening essentially is the organi with the copper copper rules the planet of Venus
You know and this gets really, you know esoteric
You're creating and then you have this lead that's going into when I used him in Costa Rica
Would have them and we called them Cape Radas, which are little streams
You have this line of a conductor that you put in the stream and living stream
And if that living stream was like really alive wherever you pushed
You know your your your gatling gun your organ accumulator
It would redistribute that coherence in the direction and all you're seeing up there when you're seeing haze is you're seeing
Dead organ, you know, he called it dead organ. I like the way Mitch the organ donor says it
It's just incoherent water. That's what you're seeing up there like all the massive fog events
I don't know if Europe has been getting them but or like the last year and a half. There's been
Totally engineered fog events all throughout the United States and that's that incoherent water
That's just kind of sitting and kind of just like nesting over everything
You create one of these very coherent fields
Because the coherent field when a human actually creates a coherent field that your intention is being distributed
And guess what y'all you guys are the ones that are terraforming
Your intention is
engineering your environment
This is why I keep trying to tell people if you if you run outside with your tail tucked between your legs and you're like
Oh, they're doing it to us
They're spraying us like bugs. Oh, woe is me. I'm a victim and I'm gonna use the wrong terminology. Guess what?
You're gonna get treated like a bug. We know that cuz there was I can't remember her name. I had her book a
Fuck I can't remember the name this book about pyramid, but this is though. She's like a Templar witch
They stopped a Baton Rouge hurricane
It came in and then these witches built a stone circle or in there fucking with intent and this hurricane did a
Circle around Baton Rouge went right back out into the Gulf, you know, it's like you're like, well, how did you do that?
You know, and that's what it's funny because copper is also diamagnetic as well just like water
For people
By the way diamagnetic means
It's repelled by a magnetic field and it doesn't retain magnetic properties
When the external field is removed like water wood copper
It's like when you drop a magnet in the cop copper is
Not magnetic but when you drop a magnet in the copper
It's it doesn't fall through like you know if you've seen where you you have a copper tube and you drop a little magnet through
It takes a while to get down is like, oh
Yeah
so my work my workbench is stainless steel and I build all my organ accumulators
I'll just stainless steel because that's diamagnetic
So you always want to have a diamagnetic and then like at the core of Moshe's mojo cells
Which are active work on accumulators
We have bismuth, which is the most
diamagnetic metal that we know of and
I was studying all of this Steve before I got into biochar like biochar is
The most diamagnetic material on the planet. There's a theme here more than more than bismuth even
Three times. Wow. All right
Yeah, on the scale like when you look at scales of diamagnetic things water is like a four
You know, then you get bismuth is like a 16 biochar is like 50
And that's why I was getting into Jim Lee about with the science of this stuff
And you're like you're talking earlier about silver. I had died can stay up in the air so can biochar
Because of its diamagnetic property, they make it they rarefied they make it into like a nano black
They make it so fine and because it is so repulsive to
Magnetic currents, and this is why this is how I broke my AI
AI was trying to tell me that electrical you can have electricity without magnetism
And I was like no, no, no, they've like I've seen for 50 years. They've been engineering magnetic fields just by using electrical currents
That's why it's called an electromagnetic
Field it's an EM field if you have one you have the other and they're like no again
Finally I got it to relent after I showed it study after study after study
It's like, okay, you get it so
You have electrical currents you always have electrical currents if you have temperature differential
Well, guess what and this is where I was able to educate Jim Lee. I was like dude. You're thinking it takes all this energy
You're trying to do like a one-to-one comparison of a lot to like affect that have you ever heard of anything called a catalyst a
Catalyst in chemistry is when you have something a very very small volume, and it creates a very very big energetic
Reaction, I'm like they're using things like silver. I died and they're using things like like biochar
In in the form that they're using and they're using it as nanograffin
Because it is so diamagnetic. It makes it ultra sensitive to any electrical field
Well getting back to Shaw burger Shaw burger was the cat out there that was like hey guys
If you have temperature differential you have electricity
If you have any temperature differential at all that's an electrical charge and every computer everybody that has a cell phone
You have something in your cell phone called a peltier cooler or a thermo electric cooler
It's literally just two little lines of ceramic with two dissimilar metals. It's sandwich in beneath it
looks like a sandwich and
Because one part of the phone is warmer than another part of the phone
Guess what you get a current and that's how you keep the memory in your phone
That's how you keep the memory in your computer if there's like any, you know, like electricity gone away
I'm not talking about anything. That's far out there thermo electric coolers have been used forever
Okay, these thermo electric coolers nature uses it our body uses it
We don't get electricity from like plugging in
We get electricity because my peripherals my hands are always going to be cooler than the core temperature of my body
Well, guess what if I have locomotion any tai chi person any chi gong person any martial artists will tell you you can actually
generate a
Higher electrical field in your body by moving the peripherals and you're gaining the temperature differential you're gaining
The charge separation which builds the chi in the body. There's nothing. There's nothing new under the Sun here
So we always have charge potential
The higher you go in the sky the greater the charge potential the greater the voltage
So can we see now? Can we all put it together?
The biggest water storage in the world is the sky the sky is a fluid
We have the biggest terraforming companies in the world out there that are actually saying hey
We're gonna store the water in the sky and we're gonna dump it where we want. It's been commoditized
Tell me what billion dollar industry isn't rigged
You know and I'll sell you I'll sell you some swamp land in Florida like literally
Every commodity is rigged and water is the most valuable commodity that there is
So they've been storing it in the sky with the without letting the plebs know they filter to the plebs. Hey
That's a chem trail
And then everybody's running around
Disappating masturbating and dissipating their energy by using the wrong terminology and wondering why nothing's changing while they're acting like a victim
none of that works if
You don't want to be treated like a plebe stop acting like a plebe start like actually taking you know
Like take take your power back
Call it what it actually is anybody can go out there. You can go to Stanford edu and
Type in geoengineering courses, and then you can look through the syllabi of their geoengineering courses
Does any in the syllabus does any of it say oh chem trailing 101?
No
It says high atmospheric aerosol dispersant
It will say the things that we've been talking about like use the correct terminology and use the correct terminology
Stopping in fear when it's a semi-humid day in the fluid above you and you see all these streaks in the sky
And because what what I've been feeling because one of my professions my longest-held profession is deep tissue
Myofascial release I am here to release trauma from people
You know how many clients I've had come in to in like
Come on to come on to my massage table and like they're in tears because they feel like you know
The Huns have just attacked them
Because there's some streaks in the sky
But I was like that too weren't you man? I
Because I'm the same as everyone else
I'm like I grew up in the fucking 80s and the sky was dark blue
You know like and then all of a sudden it's white misty. I remember I remember specifically when the sky changed and it was
Exactly 1996 when they changed the jet fuel, but they changed the jet fuel for this the express purpose
To store water in the sky
But they can also move that as a weapon, right you do agree. Absolutely. There's a whole next rat and all that shit
They can move the shit and dump it on you and flood you or they can
Without a doubt
Geo engineering is literally that
Like all of that's happening. They are terraforming. I think that's why you're catching shit tophers because people don't understand the nuances of this
This is not like a retarded black and white discussion. There's like well
The problem is is people don't listen to the full conversation and that's on them
Yeah, that's what I wanted to have today is break down the nuances
if they if they only hear a sound bite and they don't take the time to listen to my
100,000 hours of interviews I've done over the last 10 years and just look at the roster of people I've interviewed
like
Fuck them. It's funny cuz like Sharon Daphne and Gabriel is all right
They're they're also like Oregon gifters, but they tried to talk about this. What's his name Dane?
Wiggington, you know the guy he's like the main harp chem chem trail guy
he seems controlled and
They he would I think so I don't get I don't I feel like if anybody's controlled opposition
It's Dane we yeah, cuz he wouldn't even let them come and talk at his conference and they they went anyway
They were like fuck you and they were passing out flyers and he had the cops like a squirt him off the property just for handing out flyers
About their organ busters, you know their tower busters and all that like he did not want
Organite and coherency. He did not want this in the conversation at all
He he's like yeah trails or nothing. It's chem trails, you know
It's their bit their dumping barium strontium and aluminum on you to kill you and you know arp and blah
But they they're not being they're not this is the thing is like I'm not a fear merchant in
Like where I get paid in life like where I get
Renumerated in life is in building resilience. I
Build the strongest dome structures that you can buy
Okay, I make the best soil in the world. That's what my biochar company does. Okay, we make the best soil
If you have really good soil and you have very strong structures that can handle hurricanes tornadoes and earthquakes
You're you're you're doing pretty good. You're ahead of the game
And guess what I break up trauma in people's bodies
With those things the nothing will kill you faster than stress
So what I've used in my consciousness is a way to understand how to navigate through the world is God is
There's equity. God is fair
If I'm feeling fear, it's on me fear is the mind killer
So do your is the mind?
Let me finish. Yeah, go on. Sorry. Yeah
No, no, no, this is this is an opportunity. This is like like this is an actual opportunity for me
Like I said, I'm not a Pollyanna about this. I've read agenda 21. I've read agenda 2030
Literally my client in Panama was General Burt Stubblebine
Like I'm not a moron
In all of my life, I'm not a moron
All of this we always can opt for a higher level of coherence
If we're out there
Oh, there's nothing we can do about it. Oh, and we're using even the wrong terminology
You're not the witch out there that's redirecting your hurricane
You're not my friend Frankie out there that takes his battle axe when the tornado is coming out his house
And he he anchors it into the ground and says you shall not pass and it goes right around his house
You're literally being
The bug that they say you should eat
And my whole stance in life is no, no, there's there's always there is always a better way to like
You see the problem then you see if the what you're thinking about the problem is actually what it is
In this year 2025 for me was like a bunch of completion cycles
I've accomplished a lot
and like
Guys the only way you can accomplish things is if you can look at where you've made an error and and correct it
And come from a place of empowerment after that point
That's what I was going to ask you is like the whole
The whole operation seems the fear of the like they want you listen to the day and wait
They want you stressed shitless. I've never been afraid to come trails to be honest with you
I'm like what the fuck am I gonna do about you're not afraid of anything
To me. I'm just like it is what it is. That's my philosophy, you know what I mean, but I do understand like
The human body is
Capable of transcending all of that shit anyway
And I'm certain we can all get together and steer a hurricane away without even copper tubes
And organ tower busters and all that crap. I don't even think we have any organ I I think we are organized
We're just like a walking organ at ourself
We're organ producers. We are cheap. We're a giant cheap product machine. So why do you need a little
You know cup made of a great organic in and organic metals like you are one
Well, a lot of times these things actually will hold
You know, there's in a lot of magical rites
You know, and I'm not saying that that's needed
I'm with you on that
But when you like take energy and actually create something that's a little piece of you
And that will hold the charge of your intention
That's what I was going to ask is it the intention or is it the little piece of shit you made, you know
Or is it the intention you put in to making that little piece of shit that made it work
And this has been a big thing for me in in the body work field is like what I've seen is when you bio mimic
You actually then actually
That's like you being like signaling your environment correctly. Like if you have the capacity to bio mimic
When you bio mimic you're like, oh, okay
Oh, like the you're the mirror, which is the environment goes. Oh, he gets it
Or she gets it
And when when two people get it together
It's like when you're playing music and you really hit the hit the jam and like you're now just in the cut
That's what happens when you bio mimic with your environment
And organize like whether you do an active organ accumulator
Like what I do or you do like these hockey pucks like Mitch does or whoever is making whatever
You're doing a bio mimicry thing
You're you have a composite with metals and hydrocarbons. Guess what? That's the earth
And the the metals as above so below those metal
metals and hydrocarbons that that's you know in the earth
Actually creates a field above the thing which is
Father's sky
And then so you are making coherence up there
So the random water vapors can't stick like just to give a you said beat austin
We've seen the thing with the eggs, right where they take the one organic farm egg
Which is like a dark orange yolk like a really good yolk and then they put like
You know 12 shitty ass yellowy cheap one
Penny chicken eggs around it and sure as fuck the one good egg
Effects like at least six or eight of the eggs around it like their yolks start changing
Even though those those chickens were like running all over each other at a barn
Shitting on each other and they're probably half dead
But it and like you said it always goes to the better form the highest coherent form
So nature works in a way where the most positive or beneficial to the whole field
affects all the rest
Right, and that's why stress. That's why stress in fear is the mind killer
That's what I was going to say if you can make everyone the shitty egg
Then you don't have a good egg to affect. That's why they try to kill
Martin Luther King every time the dark yolk comes along to like kill him
Because that person is like affecting the other eggs one guy
Can change everybody else
More than everyone else can change one guy
Yeah
When you have the gift like there is a thing there was like there was a
reason why I chose the
bio charisma
Moniker one it had biochar in it
But when I read the definition of charisma, that's a gift given by god
It's a gift
It's like literally a gift in the in a real
Somebody that has real charisma
Is both loved and hated because they do polarize
Like we live in a realm of polarization
And it's just like I was talking about before when there is polarization. There's differential when there's differential. There's more energy
When everything becomes, you know, monotonous when it becomes like the same thing and there's no polarization
There's no energy. There's death
so
The whole thing that the charismatic does is the charismatic creates a charge potential
And you're gonna get shit. That's just what happens. But the for the for the people that are stuck in not actually
Going through long form thought and looking at a body of work
The folly is on them
That that's their cross to bear. That's pretty interesting tolfer because
The reason you have to get shit is in order to have a differential
You need the shit against your charge
They are necessary and I I study at colt and a lot of people like
Well, what's the point of all this occult study an esoteric study in mystery schools you do and i'm like because
The mystery school teachings is
When you realize that you have the gnosis and can do this
You stop praying to god and start actually praying to your higher self. You actually aren't praying to an external god
You're you're praying to your god higher self not saying that is god
But that's where the charge comes in but where does the differential come in?
Well, the people who are giving you shit obviously like where do you get the charge differential?
You need the the shit charge against your charge
And I've found even with manifestation
I can't explain to people exactly why it's important to learn all this stuff
But I can tell you my life has changed dramatically since I did
And it's this I think it's what you're talking about. It's discharge and yeah, you catch more shit
Obviously the higher your personal charge becomes
Then you you have to have more differential around you you probably catch more shit like you're doing
You're coming out saying chemtrails are bullshit and now you're really getting attacked
Because you know for me I knew it was gonna happen. I mean I told my wife. I was like but I had to admit the truth
Like I had to like I was like I I'm not here to like keep the status quo going. I'm not here to like
because I was like
Like most people I was into like I I let go of the fear of chemtrails in like 2010
2000 it was actually 2011
In oddly enough just so you guys all out there. No, I was literally working for the world's largest
organic
Whole food supplement company at the time and I was building on their farm in Costa Rica
So it's not like I'm hanging around with dipshits
Okay, and we're having I'm having talks with people that are really in the know
and so I'm like
I was able to let go of the fear of it back then because number one
Part of what was driving my fear was also hidden in that the belief that I could run away from it
There was a reason why I lived internationally like why I left the united states and I
moved to the subcontinent of india and moved to central europe and moved to central america like
It wasn't because I was like all mister, you know
You know cleaning clear like I was running
I was running because I had fears in me
So I'm in I'm in and I'm seeing I'm looking at these these these streaks in the sky and I just
I was just praying at that moment. I was just praying about it because I was looking at them
and I did feel fear and
just
like
Just calmness over swept me
And then I remembered the whole nasa thing that I had been reading and then I was talking with general burt stubblebine about it
And like he told like he's the one who gave me the papers on like the actual legal
designations of what different life forms are here
Oh, we're the filter. It's just like the same thing with the fluoride companies. We're using, you know, the toothpaste to filter the fluoride
Like I was like, oh, I've heard this story before. Oh
The atmospheric rivers that cliff high is talking about it's just like
Everything starts making sense and it's just like, okay. There is nothing to be afraid about
stress and fear are the biggest killers that there are
No matter what
I find that people that get very very mad and want to stay mad are the same people that
Are very very fearful and they want to stay fearful. They've made fear their idol
Fear is like the only thing that they can feel
And so for me, I'm not I'm not here to support that
It's like I much rather
The only thing we have to fear
Is fear itself
How true is that statement?
Seriously, like I love I don't know where you're at with the dune movies, especially the new ones
Um, but like I like Frank Herbert. I love reading dune and I was like I love the movies
It's so true. You get past the fear like I back in my new age days when I was in my 20s
Like it was all about, you know
Becoming enlightened, right?
And I remember asking this this, you know guru in India
I was like, how do you know you're enlightened and he and he said you can't be perturbed
It was that simple
You're unperturberable
And I was like, whoa
Yeah, that's how it is. I'm more calm too. I used to not be like, you know, I used to be one of those
Truthers like screaming ever you wake up wrong at a fucking time, you know, like I was one of those guys
Now I don't really give a shit because I'm like
I'm not afraid of it. It's like when you see those videos where like
Three lions are fucking with a honey badger and the honey badger doesn't attack them or run
It just turns around. It's like you want some of this shit or what?
It's not angry though. It doesn't like attack them all and try to eat the lions. It just turns around
It's like I'm not gonna run
You fuckers, right? I'm gonna bite you in the fucking balls, but you know, you want to fuck with this
Let's have it and and like how and then lions back away every time
And that's how I think we are too. We all think we need to fight the establishment
I'm like, you don't need to fight them. You just need to stand your ground. Like you said, you don't need to run to costa rica
You just need to say no, I'm staying right here. I'm not I'm not letting you push me out of here
I'm not running from you. You want to fuck with me the fuck with me, but I'm not gonna attack you over it
That and that that's where you get this peace and feeling and you know, the old mystics have the same that
You're like you can kill me, but I'm immortal. So I'm not even afraid of like that. That's what everyone's afraid of is like
Why are you afraid of chemtrails? They're trying to kill us
And you're like I can't be killed like I can't that's why you're gonna die anyway
You're like it's either twinkies or you know what you're do the booze. You're gonna die anyway
So why would you want to spend the time you are alive?
Running around scared shitless hiding in a hole like a fucking
Groundhog, you know, who's afraid of the sun
Like yeah, just like come on man. Like just stand your ground say no
And that's that, you know, I I'm not afraid actually like
I've not been afraid of the chemtrails, but it's interesting now to get into it because
I was also thinking well every commercial airplane has
Seek the pilots flicking the button, you know
Yeah, but like you're saying when they go through these coherent fields
Because people say all the planes flying over
And then we see them turn it off and then you know over there it turns it on again
They think like a guy's like turning the the button on
But you're saying it's hitting a part of the atmosphere where
There's what not a humidity differential or maybe someone has an organ buster below or like all anybody ever has to do
All you ever have to do is go to any shoreline in the world
And you'll see some days the the water is, you know, placid and then you'll see other days
There's like, you know gentle ripples other days. There's more bigger
I started this whole conversation out with it's the same thing in the sky. You just can't see it
So like you'll see a chemtrail that's on off on off
It looks like a binary signal like morse code in the sky. It's literally because there's an invisible wave in the sky
If there's waves on the ocean, there's waves in the sky
The remember your the air that you're breathing is a fluid you can talk to any fluid engineer
I as a little kid was going to become an aeronautical engineer. My grandfather is a nuclear physicist
like
This is like real science. This isn't pseudo science
Like when you're dealing and when I was building domes for people, I was telling them
I was literally building them a submarine because we had a hundred percent humidity
And for most people that were moving from california or arid places. I was like guys
You're you're moving into a whole new world here. You have no idea what you're you're moving to the rainforest
You live in water. You're you're becoming a mermaid or a merman right now. I'm building you a submarine
I'm not building you a house
So like
Like water has been on my mind fluids have been on my mind for quite a long time in our atmosphere
It's just a rarefied fluid. That's what it is
That's and so when you look up there just because you can't see it's just like a radio wave
Oh, I don't see the bluetooth signal coming to my phone. It might it must not exist like
Have a little bit of maturity
There the there's a lot of things that you can't see
It's not some like pilots switching things on off on off on off
And the biggest thing of the the people that get really mad about this like i've never claimed that they don't do fuel dumps
Because I I have a family full pilots
They've sometimes if they have to cut a flight short and they're coming to land
They don't engineer the planes to land
With a lot of weight they engineer them to take off with a lot of weight
Is it true then they dump the fuel because if they land crash land like the fucker will blow up or what? Why do they
Why it's very simple the tires can't handle it
Oh, it's the weight of landing. Oh, right. I I heard they dump it in case they
Crash land like it'll blow up like a bomb
that might be a consideration, but the the the different dudes that like the
Like I had a client of mine for
I could just call my friend. He started off as a client
He worked on like all the landing gear on these planes and things like that at Fort Lauderdale International Airport
And you know a lot of people think you know they change the tires some of those things a lot
I've always looked at I've always looked at those three little dodgy tires anyway in an airplane
You're like how the fuck is this thing landing on?
It's like it's like 60 mexicans in a truck. You know, like how seriously this landing on those little tires, you know
So you and I are in the same ilk where we don't believe like they're really, you know
Using as much fuel as they were if they were using that much fuel none of these things would ever take off
but
the little bit like let's say they have you know a thousand gallons on board and you know
They're they're coming to land a thousand gallons is like 70 000 pounds
That's a lot of payload, you know
And so they have to dump it
They're they see only because it's in there when they take off
But driving is different than coming down like boom, you know, there's a big difference. Yeah
Yeah, and I think that's why
They have to really slow down a lot of flights
And I think that explains a lot of the things because they have to slow down flights
So that they use that that they can get rid of fuel a lot of times
So that they can actually like, you know get to an area, especially if they're landing in areas where there's a
lot of
residential
Like where there's a lot of people they just can't be dumping fuel all the time. Yeah
Yeah, you can dump them on their house
It also explains why it takes a plane so fucking long to take off
You're like, how long does it take with two or four jet engines to hit 220?
I think 220 is like the I don't know what the speed is to get live, but I think it's 180
It is a commercial jet the commercial jetliner is 180
It also depends on the humidity and the particles in the air because
I went to phoenix one year where it was 120 degrees
And they shut the airport down for two days because planes couldn't even get lift. There wasn't enough particulate to
You know for the wings to get live, but I've wondered like how does it take four jets?
This long to take off down a runway like why do we have to drive down a runway?
All that length, but that makes sense of the fuels like really heavy
Yes, yeah, yeah, but there's no fucking way. There's an olympic swimming size pool. I'm sorry
Karen B has put out some good arguments that they can fit all that in the wings and in the in the central tank
I just I'm not buying it
No, they can't like I'll just tell you from an engineering perspective like I deal with the you know
I deal with the weights and stresses and loads over
Distance there's the weight distribution as well. They would be sloshing or like I just can't buy it
Men plus anybody that like anybody if you just want to have any idea just like look at the hydraulics
You know if you if you sit behind the wing if like you're in one of those exit seats
That's just like right over the wing or right behind the wing and you watch the hydraulics of the flaps
Those hydraulics have to go somewhere
Yeah, they're supposed to be fucking gas in there. You're like those have to be empty chambers
That can't be filled with gas
Yeah, with wires electrical wires and a gas tank like no retard
Would build electrical flap wires in a middle of a gas tank
Nope, not at all
And they get so much static on that that's another thing with these things like when you have a metal tube flying through a fluid
You know a fluid that has all these other particulates up there. You get a lot of static charge
So imagine all that static charge was out there on the tips. No, uh, sorry
I just can't buy it tolfer, man. I I'm I'm staying with the jet fuel oaks
There's no way they could afford it
All you had to do is the math on the money all you have to do is the math on the money
It's just like them lying about the population of the world
There have been so many we none of us have been living during a time where people were honest about things
So they've lied about the population forever because the more
Social security numbers that are out there the more fake money that could be made this all the securitized deck goes back to
Goes back to the to the sign of nature and I just know the money
I know the money like I'm telling you like I I
I was friends with the dude that owned a jet fuel company for
For private jets and in small small aircraft well, that's what I wanted to ask you this actually brings me back to a question
I wanted to ask you
So when you say there's a lot more pollutants in the air now than there used to be
People are I misunderstood when you say pollutants
Do you mean ground pollutants going up particulate matter or do you mean the airplanes themselves leaving pollution?
Because if they are running uncompressed air mostly they the planes shouldn't be leaving pollution
No, there is there's still a remnant of the gas you mean
Yeah, no what we're seeing is unstructured water
Yeah, I understand that's what you're saying when you when you structure it with the copper tubes of the
Organite cannons and the tower busters. It structures the air up there. So the particulates aren't like
They don't stick around in a weird mist
Right when you say there's air pollution up there. Are you saying from airplanes or more ground pollution?
Articulates both right both it's I brought up the the example of
Then putting scrubbers on the coal mines in in north carolina and all that did was make the pollution
More rarified and pushed it further
Downstream it didn't get rid of it
So right now when we see cars and we say oh cars are so much more efficient. The average cars engine is only running at 17
efficiency
That means not it means 83 percent of the hydrocarbons
That are running through it. Guess what guess where they end up in the air
We have a burgeoning country called china that has more cars in it than the united states does
That wasn't that wasn't the way it was 30 years ago
Like there there's other economies the bricks countries are coming online. They're young dumb and full of cum
they want all
of the
the niceties
The europeans and the the north americans have had they want it all and they're and they're going for it
Well, guess what that does
It's not it's not the united states or you know, denmark that's out there long lining the entire ocean
I'm telling you it's not it. It is true dude. Like that what we used to call the third world, you know
That's china like that in india. Yeah
So the third world is now the first world. They're not even second world
They're like up and first so I totally get you like as pollutant as the usa and little denmark with five million people
Imagine fucking china and india and they're now first world technology, of course
It in the thing the beautiful thing in my life is my exposure
So like i've because i've been able to work with very very high-end clientele
That you know didn't really have boundaries to travel
And that were of a certain age they would they told me what china was like 40 years ago relative to what it is now
And they're like it's unrecognizable
Like it is not the same country
like at all
And I was like, oh like what do you mean because I have never had any desire to go to asia
My stepmother is from thailand and I grew up with the thai community in south florida
And it was just like growing up with the latinos in south florida. It was just like oh been there done that like
I don't really need to re-experience that so like
In listening to my stepmother talk about what it's like going back to to the south like going to um
Thailand and going even even further down
They don't recognize these countries anymore. They're so polluted. They're so over the top
Like you know dubai like all all these countries are like whatever the the the pinnacle at least now speak it from a north american perspective was in our industriousness
they're like
We're the big swinging d right now. Look at what we can do. Look at what we're creating
And we have like 10 times the amount of people you do. So
Bye
Yeah, it is. I'm not yeah, I've been around asia for I spent a year traveling southeast asia. I didn't go to china
But I've been to saigon. I've been to thailand five times like
In the countryside, it's cool
But their cities are even bigger and filthier and more crowded than our western our westernized like
They're just fucking filth
You know you blow your nose at the end of the day and there's black suit shit coming out onto your tissue paper
It's pretty bad. I couldn't believe like
I was 13. So i'm dating myself. That was 36 years ago
be you know
Flying into thailand. I couldn't breathe breathe back then
like
Dude can't breathe. No, no, it's funny because remember like during convid
They were suddenly there weren't chem
Chemtrain, you know, I don't even want to use you. I don't even want to use the word anymore
You've made me feel dirty saying it but like
Suddenly there weren't these chemtrails, right?
and
And and and then we were like oh see because
Because of covert the chemtrail pilots are all grounded too and they're at home with masks and you're like or
There's just not so much pollution in the air because they say la they said like the smog went away over la
Which is unheard of
Dude, I first saw it during 9 11 like after 9 12 9 13 9 14
There was no air traffic in the united states, right or there wasn't air, you know commercial air traffic
And we had a really because before that event occurred
There was a hurricane going up the eastern seaboard
Right and usually hurricanes when they go by they like suck all the bad weather like all of us floridians
We always love when a hurricane just barely misses us because we know afterwards
We're going to have a bunch of days of really nice weather of like really clear skies
And dude, it was so right and hot
You know after you know on 9 12 9 13 and 9 14 at least on the eastern seaboard of the united states
It was like it was it was it was really wonderful
If if everybody hadn't been freaking out about that event that would have been like, you know real party
It's funny because there is like there's the hurricane the eye of the hurricane is like that
Then the rest of the hurricane and then it is it's like the eye of the hurricane after it's beautiful after hurricane
We loved it in florida because the only time people were ever nice to each other was after a hurricane
That's because they're all fucked I they're actually great because people come together, you know, yeah
It changes the energetics. It's it's awesome because it wants it, you know
People in urban settings, you know, they they get like
You'll never find a more alone person than somebody that's in like a real urban setting because nobody like trusts each other
But like in south florida. It was always weird because it was urban because we had all these transplants from the northeast
And they were all like we're all kind of tightly packed
But yet we still had enough land and nature to kind of get about move about so it's like it like this in-between zone
But everybody was like a transient from somewhere else
And it was just like one of these things when a big storm or a catastrophe would come in
You kind of understand what's real and all all that's real at the end of the day is relationships
And so like after a hurricane comes here and there's no electricity for a couple weeks and you got some
Your relationships with your neighbors. Hey, you got a barbecue. Hey, you got some frozen meat
You know and it ends up becoming it awesome
It's awesome. I mean, it's funny. You say that tolfer because yeah
We don't talk. We don't even know our neighbors any I don't I've been living
10 years now. I don't even know the three people's names upstairs. We've said hi in the hallway about 16 000 times
Yeah, but when a hurricane comes
Yeah, like you're saying you you know, I jump in the water to rescue the chick's cat or dog or whatever
You know what I mean? I don't even know her name
And I'm starting to think like because we're all living like this that these disasters are getting more and more
For exactly that to say you fuckers need to learn to talk to each other like
We need to give you a reason to talk to each other and you didn't hear here you go. Fuck you all
Let's see if you get together now. I think we're perpetuating a lot of this
Whereas everyone else will say no, it's the geoengineering. It's the
I know that I know they are geoengineering
They are steering weather with these next rad and doppler towers these doppler towers are fucked up
But I do think the realm itself
The more we get away from each other
The more it's going to give us
Obstacles to overcome. It's the it's the pragmatic principle, you know, I think there's something to do that
It totally is. I mean, there's a reason why they spend so much money getting people to watch sports ball
and get people in in in these
Massive concert venues because if each one of us is our own organ
accumulator an organ generator and transducer
What happens when you like if you had a mechanical one and you get a bunch of them in a specific geometry?
That's called an array
And an array can have exponential amount of energy
You know transmitted or induced from it
Then just a single one can and the and the people that are doing the social engineering know that
So that's why they engineer the majority of like the social gatherings
space especially in an array configuration to be a low vibration
I think so too. Yeah, just like we talked about with the eggs
They just they're trying to make more bad eggs
But so what you're saying with the coherent so all these people like
Mitch the Oregon donor Mitch Mitch Joseph
And Sharon Daphna and Gabriel so when they're planting all these
Organized tower busters and shit all around here and they're saying there's no longer chem trails in the sky at all
They're saying that because I looked at these for this interview
They're talking about these videos were like they're they're saying holographic airplanes spraying chem trails
Are turning into orbs, right? Yeah, you know that story. Yeah
I went back today and just looked on youtube at like 20 orb airplane holographic videos to me. It just looks like
Bad digital graphics of the the camera
I can see that's just the light off the two engines in the back telling
I don't see holographic airplanes. I see your camera having a digital problem, right?
Right, you know what I mean? So
But what's going on? So you're saying there's just the water vapor can't stick together because
The organi is making the air or the the waters above coherent
Is that what yeah, you're you're actually because I I mean we could get really
Yeah, go for it. Let's get into it man. This space
Let's go for it
so, you know
There there is this principle of father sky and mother earth, okay
When you have when you create this organ accumulator or or I call
The ones that I work with are an active organ accumulator and we actually use live water like
I've spent a ton of time
Structuring water and this is why you know
Veda and I get along so well
Can you explain to people who don't know like structured versus unstructured just in a simple term?
Not everyone knows what you mean well water water the best way to think of it. We were just talking about humans or antennas
Water is a fluid antenna the relationship of hydrogen to oxygen. You know, there's a lot of different
We'll call it the fluid
relationship of hydrogen to oxygen is what we know of as water and you have different people talking about the different
molecular components
To it. Let's just keep it really simple
However, hydrogen and oxygen like to relate to each other
They will create a fluid and we experience that fluid as the liquid that we call water
Okay
now because
The individuated aspects of hydrogen to oxygen are these antennas
they're constantly receptive in in astrology or an alchemy we call it mutable
So when you think of mutable, it means like if I was to pour water into this vessel
The water will take the shape of this vessel
Now did the water itself change? No, it just is malleable. It took the form of whatever it's in right
Well, it does that from uh from a time perspective too
So when water is exposed to a bunch of people being fearful about something
Or a bunch of people, you know not taking responsibility or a bunch of things that are synthetic that are x y or z, right?
The water because it's just a bunch of antennas
It will receive that information and store the information
And if it's, you know, say 51 percent on the incoherent side, that's unstructured water
all right
Because you could show like, you know
whether
Whether it's nasura moto or veda or other experimenters, you just have one little bit of coherent water and it structures all the rest of it
so
Structured water is when the antenna geometry of the hydrogen to oxygen
Becomes optimal. It's just that easy
So like I build houses I build domes. So like if I get the truss geometry just right
Then it can support more load
If I optimize the geometry
voila
That optimal geometry it's kind of funny. We're talking about water and a dome is just a bubble
So if I optimize the geometry I can handle almost an infinite load. It's the same thing with water
It's exactly the same thing. It's just like, oh, I'm in my right geometry. I am now coherent
So is it like with the domes like
If you had two straight pillars, they they couldn't hold a certain amount of weight
But as soon as you bend them they can hold like 10 times the truss weight like the load, right?
Absolutely
Is that how it is like the same two pillars bent can suddenly hold 10 times more weight on top
Right, right and the thing is is like when you just
Nature the reason why nature uses curves and this goes to the whole water analogy
Is because when you just have straight lines
Whenever you get a shear force, which is where the energy is moving from right to left or front to back on something
If you just have straight lines going up like pillars and then you have a lintel going across
Now you get parallelograms
And so nature is like, oh, that's inefficient
Nature is extremely efficient nature's like no, no, no, I want to be efficient. I want to last I want to survive
So I'll go. Oh, I'll just connect these two and be curvy linear and now when I get shear forces
I'm just going to move as one
It's that simple
It's literally that simple
And so when we're making coherent water
Uh, we're essentially just making the water happy because it's like, you know, have you ever like gotten into like a health streak?
We're like you start eating right you start exercising and stretching and like
Doing the things and then all of a sudden you just wake up one day and you feel good
You're like, oh
Oh, I didn't know I feel like 20 years younger or whatever
You're like, oh man
And all that's all we're doing to water when we put it in these vessels and we send
Coherence harmonics that you'll enjoy
Through the water, you know, some might call a resident
And by resonance we're defining resonance as your output energy
greatly exceeds your input energy
Because the it's like you're catalyzing the fluid this fluid antenna
With something that resonates and then the water just starts to produce like these little nano bubbles these little nano domes
And then with that that charge that coherence from all of those nano bubbles then actually it's like champagne for the environment
It's like let's party and everything just like gets more coherent
Because no matter what we've already established. We all live in water. We all live in a pool of water. We're breathing a pool of water
So when you affect water in a very specific way just in like an isolated case
You're actually not just affecting that because it's an antenna. It's a receiver transceiver. So it's now distributing that signal everywhere else
And you know, it has it it has a given area, but still it still
It still does a lot of work
What do you think
About hydrogen oxygen, you know as we're taught on the periodic table of elements because steve young and I have been talking about
He's doing an alchemical revamp of the whole periodic table in alchemy
great
Yes, so steve's doing that and I've been
Talking to beth martins because I don't want to I don't want to digress here
But there's a big kick about should you be drinking out of copper vessels or is copper poisonous or you know this and that
There's in the alternative health field and steve and I are talking about the alchemical copper
Which is malleability electrical conductivity. That's different than the metal called copper or copper oxide
And and the studies they use to say you're taking copper. I agree
I wouldn't take a copper vessel and a razor and start shaving copper shavings and eating them
Although your parasites would take care of that, but
Is the copper vessel leaching
metal copper into your water or is it giving water
The alchemical property of malleability and electroconductivity and it's okay to drink out of copper
And wear a copper brace. This is a whole another weird thing
But you know what i'm saying there's a big difference
Are there is there really such a thing?
as
atomic
Oxygen and hydrogen. You know what i'm saying h2o as we're what's your take on that?
I'm kind of with tom cowan in the sense that you know, I call him a particleist like a racist
He's against particles
And so
I kind of with him
He's definitely a particleist
because
And I think he's right once again getting back to the whole
Walter russell way of looking at things
I i'm with walter russell
Like I think this is we're living in a hologram
And it's not the same thing to say we're living in a simulation
We're living in a hologram meaning everything is comprised of light
Everything that we experience and like ken wheeler shows is that
perturbation in the ether
When you have two perturbations that overlap each other they appear
This is the key word they appear
To create a solid
Now I think we live within a field of these perturbation. I don't think I know we live in it in in a field of these perturbations
And so these all these perturbations that are occurring you have the certain beings that are their own light emitters
Those would be the people that are considered to be
you know
Coherent those would be the people that would be considered to be like uh charismatics
Charismatics and then you have the people that aren't their own light emitters that are absorbing light from their surroundings all the time
Those are it's like the difference between leaders and followers blah blah blah
So like that energetic
Componentry is such
Would mean that matter
Is just all the same thing at different complexities
It's just more and more perturbations that are agglomerating to each other
So something like uranium 234
Is a lot more perturbations overlapping a specific area
Relative to say proteam like we spoke about which is like the first beginnings of hydrogen the first beginnings of matter
So i'm i'm on the walter russell tip. That's that's where i'm at with what particles are and i just i just uh
Release my interview with steve young and he and i seem to be very close
I want to see that i haven't seen you in steve talk. Yeah, i'd like to i love to see that man
Where's that release done?
It's on it's on you know on youtube or yeah, all right. I'll check that out. Yeah, that's
Talking a lot about that too man. We're like
It's not you know
Protons neutrons like that. There's something wrong with the periodic table of elements
But they're actually elementals
So in a way they kind of tell you have truth. They are they are different
Frequencies or harmonics of elementals
Definitely
But they're different like yeah, they're not you know electron this one lost
An electron and now you know everything like when you take this and it loses six electrons it becomes this like no
I don't think so
No, no not at all
Hey, yeah, so I that's where I'm at because I think
The world appears really solid and it appears really consistent like it appears that way
But you know appearances are temporal and we happen to be in the temporal realm
and so
things are actually
I I had the great luck. I was in Gibraltar in 2014 and I met
The head physicist for the University of Sweden. He was giving a talk on
Then it was the 3g cell phone network
And his whole presentation was about interference patterns
Like I was hearing from the dude, right? It was incredible
And what do you what they had us do in the conference room? There was like 60 of us in the conference room
And when we were walking in we had to give them our cell phone
And which like people were really reluctant to do but it was part of the demonstration
And what he ended up demonstrating was he goes, okay, this is the way they test cell phones
You know because he worked for he like the University of Sweden did a lot of testing for Nokia
And he goes
When they're looking to see whether or not a cell phone is like fit to like, you know be out in the public
They test this is the way they test it
And it was like this box, right?
And it looked like a little mini Faraday cage
And it would have like the poly the see-through polycarbonate with like this silver mesh around it and everything like that
And he asked somebody to like, you know volunteer, so I volunteered
And he gave me his number. It was his phone in there and I and
So my cell phone I was on the other side of the conference room and I ring his phone and it
With the box closed it wouldn't ring
He opens the front of the box
And so there's nothing like when you were looking at the screen of like what what
EMF is coming off of this 3g phone
There was like no EMF coming off of it
Nothing harmful at least
No ionizing radiation and then so he opens the front and then I call it again
And then the whole thing starts lighting up like a Christmas tree
And so
What he said was when they test it, they don't actually ever test the phones when they're actually receiving or transceiving a signal
They always just put the phone in there kind of inert and test it to see if it's giving off anything
And then we put my phone in there with with his phone
And then like then I forget who there was somebody else that like essentially like chatted us both up
And then like all of the ionizing radiation on the screen came up. It was nuts
And you were showing us is like, okay
What what the what the actual experience out in the field is is we all have
these devices
And then all these towers are out in the field and their clock speed is all a little bit different
And so the signal even though the signal might be the same the way it's received and then transceived is all a little bit different
So what that does is it creates these these these
electromagnetic fields that are just not they're just slightly dissonant
And when they come across each other, they create these interference pockets
And then in those interference pockets is where you have the ionizing radiation
And uh and as he was saying this I was like, dude
That was like written four thousand years ago in the rig VEDA. That's exactly how they explain
You know
Like this creation
Like they're like literally like you are your consciousness is overlapping other people's consciousness
And then the the Venn diagram of your little reality bubble relative to another's reality bubble is
like
That's great. Like the biochar that you're making. Um, that's another thing it does because it's diamagnetic
So it's repelled by a magnetic field or rather it can repel a magnetic field
Yes, so harmful electromagnetic radiation
You could make like bricks or paint out a biochar and it will repel any kind of magnetic
I I heard I can't remember who it was. It might have been um
Lindsey Harris tomb of illumination. Do you know Lindsey Harris?
I've I've I've I've listened to a couple of them in the end of scammed arctica
But uh, he said we shouldn't call it an electromagnet. I think it's him. Maybe I'm wrong
He said we shouldn't call it an electromagnetic field. We should call it a magneto electric field. He said it's reversed
Yes, but anyway, do you agree with that? But anyway, so the biochar
It it can repel harmful
Magneto electro radiation because it repels
Magnetism, right? Yeah, it reflects it. Reflex it. Yeah
So electromagnetic field must be magnetic
So harmful electromagnetic radiation meaning
Forces coming out of it would be repelled by the biochar
Yeah, yeah, and I think that's like, you know, when you look at child rearing they say the number one thing
That you know is important for a well-adjusted child is that they feel security, right?
And so like you and I have mass like my mass is like around 200 pounds, right?
Imagine and we get affected by these emfs like we get affected by all these frequency ranges
Well, what makes soil good soil is the fact that
It has these bacteria in it and these bacteria
Do all the alchemists work? They're the ones that convert
You know, say calcium into nitrogen or nitrogen into gold or gold into platinum
These little microorganisms are the alchemists. They're like they're the og
alchemists
And they need a safe environment
And so when you don't have carbon in your soil and you don't have highly diomagnetic carbon in your soil
They're susceptible to all of the this ionizing radiation and
Magneto electric field as you would say
That that even us humans who have mass like we get affected by
Can you imagine what this little thing that has next to no mass?
You know wave like a little wave to us is like a tsunami to them, right?
and so
What we're seeing is a lot of people's gut flora in in gut fauna in areas that have
5g
There they they literally like lose their gut bacteria like that's something i'm doing right now in my family is we're repopulating our gut with
different types of gut bacteria
Because we're essentially being sterilized from the all the 5g signals, right?
What are you doing for that like yogurt and stuff?
So how are you putting that in there? Yeah, yeah very very specific strains of yogurt
So that and then also doing all the probiotics in all the ferments
Because biotic means life that's what's funny when people take antibiotics the word biotic means life
So you're like you're gonna take anti life
as a right health care like what do you
Yeah, so that's why the biochar then um
So biochar cleans water and it attracts healthy microbes
Yes, and it's so stable the the difference between the biggest question I get
What's the difference between biochar and charcoal is biochar is stable?
So going back to that child analogy
Children need safety and security and they need consistency right if they have those three things
Then their own ego can form and they can come into a fullness of being because they have this stable setting
The same thing with the soil is that
With with the biochar because we pyrolyze it we literally do an alchemical process called pyrolyzation where
We cook it with no oxygen the only oxidative stress that the cellulose
Is in contact with is heat heat as a as an oxidator not oxygen as an oxidator
And this gets super alchemical is what steve and I were talking about is because oxygen is considered the sun
Well, it's kind of funny the soil in and of itself
We've all heard that that saying that like, you know a farmer after he plants the seed
He doesn't go dig up the seed every day to see if it's growing right
The seed is in the darkness. It's in the womb. You can't see what's the growing the underneath
Well, there's something with this pyrolyzation process is where like the this the alchemical aspect of the sun
Which is oxygen isn't allowed in the process
So you're creating the dark matrix womb that's highly diamagnetic
So that will reflect away any of these millimeter waves or
So many of the return now grounds that they use in
All that gets reflected into oblivion in this highly highly diamagnetic material
And because it's so stable it doesn't degrade like charcoal does
It doesn't oxidize anymore because once you start oxidating the stress with two oxidators then the
The oxidative process will go on ad infinitum
You can't stop it
And you get ignition steve and I just had this talk we did a talk on nuclear power nuclear power
Plants we just had the same exact discussion like the zirconium pellets and the yellow cake
Yes, he can get through but not light and fire and radiate like there's different bands of frequency
Right, so this is what and I said like that's exactly like tophers biochar like
You're allowing heat to release but not it's not igniting. It's not lighting on fire and it's not charcoal
People mistake biochar with charcoal because char and charcoal
Sound the same, but what's the difference between charcoal and biochar
Charcoal when they make it they are usually just have open air pits. So you're outside
You know atmosphere so the air is in there. So it's igniting
So it's igniting so whenever they do a charcoal pit you end up with like maybe like 10
12 percent of biochar at the very bottom like where the oxygen couldn't actually get to
But most of it most of the charcoal then becomes very hungry and it has a net positive charge
What makes biochar so special is it has a net negative charge
So that's they also call it activated carbon like when you go to the hospital
If you go to the hospital and say you're under toxic shock through your gi track
They'll immediately give you activated carbon. That's biochar. They'll give that to you because it's a binder
You know actually absorb all of the positively charged
Things that are in your gi track and we call them like from a biological perspective
They call them reactive oxygen species
Whether you have a reactive oxygen species in your body and r.o.s in your body or you have that in your soil
Neither of them are good
Because schauburger would say they're extremely juvenile. It's like having bam bam from flintstones
It's just in there. Just wreck and shove. It's hitting everything
It's it's it's pulling the energy out of everything because it's just going through there and it's hyperactive
And schauburger was
hugely into using copper implements in the in the soil
Cultivating the carbon in the soil because he was very into the the mother
Like the womb matrix aspect of soil
And to not like ever expose the soil to extra oxygen because the whole thing i'm just talking about with the juvenile
Then what occurs from the juvenile experience like the
Yeah juvenile delinquents man
You could just call when you have too much oxygen in anything
From an alchemical perspective. It's it's it's
It's a degradation
It kind of makes sense because that's when you plant the seed
You stick it down like three inches in the soil where there's no oxygen
Right, you don't stick it on the soil like what you can with like certain flowers, but like usually you plant it underneath
So that totally makes sense and and the weird thing too with ionization
It's like, you know when they the the elites flip everything
They call it negative ions. That's actually the good ones and positive are the bad ones, but
Right, why didn't you call it the other way around and why are you calling the good ones negative and the bad ones positive?
You know, I think I think it's once again, like we started this whole conversation with it's like you have to do your work and like
Define terms negative doesn't mean bad
You know, it's just like, you know
I see it just means minus negative means a deficit
Exactly, but in what though, I see you're saying in what you have to define what?
Right, and so it's just like, you know, when you start
I've just been aware of this for a while like you really like if if somebody is really earnest in knowing something
All this level of information will get to them
Because god gives to you if you ask you just does like, oh, you're sincerely asking okay
I'm before you even ask. I'm giving it to you like you're asking. He shall receive
It's never not been that way what I've witnessed is a lot of people are
quasi asking
They're asking not coming from a place of humility
They're asking to save face around the people around them or present a certain way. So they're really not asking at all
They're asking is more like a statement
No, you have to ask from your heart because you sincerely want to know the truth
And dude, there's not many people out there that are asking from that state of being of like really
They're willing to do a 180 degree turn. They're willing to like
Eat eat some crow when when the truth shows itself
Like that's what asking is like you have to be humble
Because the god will give it to you he will give it to you
But the truth of the matter is a lot of people that are asking they already have the answer in their mind
So they're not asking to be they're not asking
Yeah, or there's like an
Ulterior motive or an impure reason for seeking it a lot. It's the same with the mystery schools
The reason they vetted you is because they didn't want dickheads learning this information in the mystery schools because it's fucking dangerous
In the wrong hands
You're you're learning metaphysical information. That's really dangerous if you're out for power
And greed and money and control and all that crap
They used to vet you like do we really want to tell this guy the secrets of the universe?
Because he seems like a dick
He's he's not asking out of earnesty and humility. He's asking out of power hunger
And and this is to me is the is the mystery schools all the way. That's why they give you the exoteric and the esoteric
Just to make sure like who are we dealing with here? Like who's who's knocking?
You know knocking knocking it shall be open asking
You receiving the mystery school druids are like, yeah, but who's knocking?
Who's asking, you know, like we got to make sure it's not and unfortunately
That's what has happened is the cunts got a hold of the good information. They shouldn't have had it
yeah, like like I said, you know, it's one of those things like
the I'd love the
the moniker of a naturalist
Because naturalists are alchemists alchemists are true seekers
And what I've seen with all naturalist alchemists and true seekers is they all actually venerate the creator
They're not doing it from a religious perspective. They're really coming from a place of gratitude
I've yet to meet an alchemist that isn't like absolutely full of gratitude
And Steve Young's the most humble there is of all of them
Yeah, he's a good dude. And so like
What what this is coming up in our pod last night in our live stream was like
The most dangerous people out there are gammas because they're midwits
And they're just smart enough to know that they're not smart
So they they have information in data collection and then their whole life becomes about
Protecting what they think they know
Well, guess what dude you live in the temporal realm dude, it's all going bye-bye
If you're holding on to things that you think you know and like on your death bed, you're like, I know this
Ah
Well, that's I think like that's what I love when you told me about the chem trials, you know, I was like
Ross is what we'll be watching this later like it but
I'm like, okay
You know to me learning all this in the mystery schools
It's been the most
Not humiliating. I guess humiliating humbling the right word humbling
But actually humiliating is a good word again
We're afraid of humiliation, but what is humiliation is teaching you humility
Right again, they've said humiliation is the worst thing you can suffer
Actually humiliation is the best thing you can suffer. It's like I'm fucking wrong
And I'm even getting shamed over it. So like
Instead of having to defense against it. Just say like I'm fucking wrong
I need to look at this from a new level
So it's not actually I think being humiliated is as good as humbling
I think so. I mean, I'm I love that
It life has shown me life is nothing but a humiliation process
Like I literally have learned from all my f ups
Like I I literally have failed so much in life
But for whatever reason I've been given the grace to like, you know, pick myself back up and like, okay
Learn from the mistake and go on
But like that's one of the beauties of having a little experience under your belt is like you you're like, oh my god
You you will survive your mess ups
What I noticed with a lot of midwits is that they're so scared to be wrong or they're so scared to mess up
You know or to be seen like they're messing up and it's that fear once again fears the mind killer
It never allows the real growth because humility
There's not a single person that I know that's humble where grace doesn't just befall them. I mean
Did you say you're on mute?
No, I was just I said right. Yeah, like because I'm a Virgo. What's your sign?
I'm Pisces. All right. Yeah, so I'm a Virgo. So we're just full of ourselves
We're like so full of shit and confident like everything we say is right. You're fucking wrong
And the the whole idea of learning the esoteric sciences is to get into the other
11 signs incorporate them into yours
So that you're not stuck as that
So for me as a Virgo, it's even more humiliating or humbling
To to admit you're wrong let alone even believe it, you know
But the nice thing about Virgo is you're mutable
So the beautiful thing about the Virgo is the elemental enter the element the element of earth is your grounded
But it's mutable earth. So you will always be sensitive
And when you're always sensitive, that's probably why you're a good musician
You know, you can't be a good musician unless you're sensitive unless you're like listening engaging, you know
Everything that's going on right
And so you have that capacity to adjust the sensitive people always have the capacity to adjust
The like the more some of the other signs out there like say if you were fixed earth like torus
Taurus don't change
That's my son man. My son's like that too
But you're Pisces, right? So you're mutable too. You're a mutable Pisces
But you're water. So you're more flowing you're you're very like
I've seen you interview people like oh, Nicole Murphy set me straight. Thank you for putting me in my place
You know, I would never thank anyone for putting me in my I'm an earth sign. I'm fucking fixed in the ground. I'm like
I'll fucking dare you
But I'm still willing to change
Yeah, just takes a little more. I'm not just so open about it as you are. I know what you mean. Yeah
But you're a Pisces. What's Mackenzie then?
She's a triple Pisces. I'm actually on the cusp. I'm all Pisces. Oh, yeah
I'm on the cusp of Aquarius in in Pisces and I also do I do alchemical astrology. So I'm in my second epic
So actually in my second epic. I have a lot more torus that's actually being
Fulfilled at the moment
So Mackenzie and you are Pisces, but you're a cusp II
I'm a cusp II but
We both like I I've been doing alchemical astrology for about 10 years now
Yeah, and that's just like for people out there
I was first learning a system from John Lamb lash, which was like Celestics
I took his course in 2010 through 2012, which was real sky astrology
And then I got into Athens Cometi's work, which was like the the true
Sidereal because that reminded me of my area of edict training in India
Because they changed everything they like what I was learning in India in in the early 2000s
There was essentially there are 13 constellations along the plain ecliptic
And this is what you and I were talking about with Nicole Murphy
So there's the the ground base
Earth base looking up which is tropical astrology and then there's the astrology that's looking down
And I think they're both they're both they both have their merits
What I really got into though was it I started to see like people
I met some Koreans when I lived in in Costa Rica that turned me on
It's like you ever hear something it just like rings in you
You're like oh, I had to like look at this more and they were telling me
That you know in Korea they consider your conception
That when you're conceived is like, you know when you're born you're essentially like 10 months old whatever a year old
And I was like, well, that's true because I've met so many, you know
Pregnant hippie women that will tell me about their kid as the kid is gestating with them
And I could feel it myself working on them. I'm like, oh, this is a being like why are we counting?
You know the the minute that they're born at zero
and so
um
I was exposed to the Rose accrucian way of looking at it of like calculating conception time and then running charts off of that
In the second I started doing that everything shifted for me and so
I I'm a weird bird because I I do the conception astrology off of a true sidereal system and then I map it to
A light based calendar. I don't even use like the Gregorian system. So
like
The way I look at things is pretty bespoke
In that way, but the nice thing is is it gives me even more specificity like when I'm
Like when people are looking at
Uh profiling themselves psychologically because that's all astrology is it's like a it's an astral psychological profile
And so I call the service that I give in that regard I call it a
Elastic profile because I am using the the heavens based down approach not the tropical approach
and I am mapping it to
When they were conceived and not
Not when they were born
Well, I think it's all the same man, isn't it because like
Nicole Murphy's really hardcore into like tropical is the thing because tropical is nothing to do with the stars
It's it's a frequency range
No matter what stars are in the background on march 21st the energy
Is aries, you know what I mean like
But that's so and this is what we were discussing in our pod. That is terrestrial. That is mother
But we're a combination of
Of mother earth and father sky
So from the sky looking down perspective is
The constellational astrology from the mother earth perspective
And here you absolutely true what I'm saying is that is true tropical astrology does have
It's merit and I understand it's not connected to the constellations
But the constellations guess where we're getting our signaling from
We're getting it from up there
In the whole thing and I always tell my clients this too
And I mainly do this for the people I do body work with because the body work doesn't lie like the body never lies
and so
We are not we're in this realm. We're not of this realm
So you are right. You have a lower form and a lower thing that that is totally tropical
tropical
And then you have the higher order aspect your higher self that you brought up earlier. That's divine. It's astral
It's it's from coming down
That is the higher order aspect of yourself
I got you. Yeah, but it's it's like also when they say, you know
You can do physical astrology where on based on tropical
Virgos have elongated heads quite often the males are bald like, you know, you can see like apices
They have fish eyes leos have these little wine eyes
Like cat eyes look and shit. Like you can see it
That busy agonies are real thing
It doesn't matter though
Like you're like you're saying even if you go back nine months to gestation
You might call that a Virgo trait
But there's no reason it couldn't be whatever the fuck nine months past Virgo is uh,
What would that be? Would that be Sagittarius? I don't know
something like that
What I'll do what we should do
Is
Send me your birthday. Yeah, and I'll do that for you
Oh, yeah, that's the least I could do for you for for everything that you've given me through the years
Oh, I love reading tougher. That'd be awesome. And yeah, I'll send you my birthday
Do you need like a wear and all that shit too? Like yeah data birth time. Yeah
The location I won't be showing you. Yeah, and then if you're if your mother's still alive
You could ask her if she's going to divulge information
If you were conceived in the same town that you were born in
Yeah, great man, and then the for your biochar. Yeah, so let's talk biochar. So your company's going great
Yes, so it cleans water it attracts healthy microbes repels harmful radiation
So are you making the paint as well? Or do you make like a mixture for paint? We will this by the end of the year
We're still experimenting. We have to get the right particulate size
There's there's tons of consideration. We're finding the smaller the particle the much more powerful it is
So
It's all about getting the grinders right getting the humidity of the biochar right to like grind it down fine enough and then
Not to kill the people that are doing it because it is
You know that gets into the air and it can be problematic to breathe in
Why is that over? Why does it get stronger as it's smaller?
Because it's it's like an infinite mirror. It just reflects and reflects and reflects so millimeter waves are really small
and so whenever that that pulse is moving through the
The medium whatever the medium is
That just one little deflection off of the particle
It'd be like imagine if you had like they're not they're not spherical
But like each particle would almost act like a mirrored sphere
And it'll just reflect
And so there's no way that the the signal can the the signal can have any strength through that
So we we we can have paint that's up to like I think
Because you do three coats of the paint
and then
Like if you have a room a room is a cube it has six sides as a floor a ceiling and four walls
most rooms
If you put three layers of this
You know on the surfaces and then you know cover it like say you
Like before you put your flooring in or your carpet or however you do your ceiling treatment
And you have the the actual paint
You actually take like a copper wire and like run it to the ground
There's no signal that gets through that
Well your phone signals still get through right or will it totally no
Oh, you'll just have like a Faraday cage or on your room
Yeah, but it's a non ferris Faraday cage. All right. Yeah
So, you know, they should call it a ferris day cage because I build with I mean I build with ferro cement
Like that's my claim to fame and construction
All my domes have ferro cement. So those are asymmetrical faraday cages
that's like a different thing it feels different too because
That's working more on the principle of interference and not reflection reflection and interference are kind of different
They feel different to the body
So like if you're sending a signal and you're in a Faraday cage, you can almost feel like the signal is hovering around you
I know this is giving you like really like
No, that's cool. Yeah, this is a very fine detail. It's almost like if if you were in a metal cage
And somebody was running electricity into the cage
It might not be touching you but you can kind of feel it in your biofield
That's not the way the biochar works. The biochar paint
Feels completely different that signal never even it
It's I I call it being reflected into infinity. It never like there's no
There's no notice of it even getting close to you like it doesn't
But for all the people inside the dome
Then their signals are locked and bounced back in again as too as well then. Yeah, so like if I'm doing emf
You know mitigation for people. I'm like
Like if you're in a Faraday cage and you have a phone in there and like say you have
You know low e windows. I have so silver eye died in them and things like that
It's more harmful to have the phone in that than in the standard
Because it's locked in and can't bleed back out, right? Yeah, what about like if a negative person comes into your dome
Like if a dick had well, it's kind of interesting with the dome shapes because now we're dealing with mass and shape
You don't really have like there's not really uncool people that like
It's a very interesting phenomenon
Like I'm still doing consulting for people all around the world like when it comes to
Shapes of what they're constructing
and what materials to use
um
There's a reason why like so many like sacred spaces are curvilinear like so many spaces that are like just call it higher
coherence or curvilinear
And it's because it's almost like it repels the square
You know back in the day they said don't be a square, right?
So like a wankers will come to your house once and they won't want to come back again
They won't like they literally will make fun of it and they think they're above it
It's again the classic mid-weight gamma. That's like, oh, you know, I know
Go ahead and know somewhere else. Bye. Bye excellent, man. It's a douchebag repellent. I love it
It really is
That's totally cool, man
Hey, is there anything we should get back to on the chem trails and stuff so
Just to top off like you're not denying that there's
geoengineering and a high altitude altitude aerosol spraying but the airplanes
Most of the chem trails we see
Are just real airplanes going through condensation and pollutants up there extra, right? Yes
Yeah, yeah, the majority of what we see is you know, the the classic contrail, but we have to know why we see more
But it's still it's still bad for us though, right like it's still reflecting the sun and stuff or is it a good thing
I I think we're no no
The albedo effect is not good for us
But it's just like anybody can do the research you look on to when you scrub a pollutant
You're just rarifying it when you rarify a particle. You're changing the shape and the size of a condensation nuclei
Condensation nuclei is what water agglomerates to it's what it attaches itself to
So if you have if you went from a micro particulate to a nano particulate
Now your condensation nuclei get smaller and smaller and smaller and more rarefied your water
Particulates get smaller and smaller and more rarefied
And that's why we have this whitening effect going on everywhere
It's a combination of pollution. It's a combination of the terraforming. It's a combination of
the geo engineering
Are you saying if they were bigger if they were bigger we would have actual clouds and we wouldn't have
Missed like a white right albedo. We'd have actual big fucking dark clouds up there or something like that
Right, and it's been stated like literally nasa has cloud producers nasa
Has been at least in the united states has been up front
Like we're storing water in the sky
Like that's what we're doing now and that's been where that's 20 years on
And you know when they say it to us in the public realm, you know, it's been going on for you know
Going on since the 20s probably yeah
Guys, it's really simple like the people
Like if they the second water became a commodity and got commoditized
You don't think that they're not going to like have these shenanigans
So it's just about being defining terms and really talking in an educated way like actually being
Like not the fear monger
It's not like we live in, you know
Ho-ho the industrial revolution in london where like we have like ash falling on us like we're in the in the upside down
It it's it's a little bit more refined
But we're still have tons and tons and tons of particulates
Falling on us and it's still industry
It's still transportation that's doing it
And it's such like what a great redirect because you were in the insurance business, you know everything about liability shields
What a godsend to big industry and the car makers that they have all these like idiots out there going
come drills
They're like
Liability shields. Yeah, the airplanes man the trains doing nothing. It's yeah
I got it. It's not the fucking trains man. It's the airplane for sure
Dude, I bet you there's some like very large transportation companies out there that you know are paying some people very handsomely to say
drills
Say there's so many there's so many layers to to everything you have to be people
Go ahead. Sorry. Yeah
We just have to be very detailed when we say something and just notice like when you go outside and you're looking
All you're experiencing is streaks in the sky
All the words in your head are just words that you've been told
So do experiments. That's why the scientific method says do experiments
I am coming from an educated perspective where I've done experiments
And I'm an expert on on earth
like I know I'm like like dude like
You know how much like
Barium and strontium and all these things are naturally agglomerate to aluminum oxide. That's what I was gonna ask
You know, like when uh, what's his name? Uh, dain wagington. How much natural? I don't I actually had to ask myself this after we talked
I don't know how much natural aluminum barium and strontium are in the soil
I have no fucking clue. They're just telling me there's a bunch in there
I don't know if it's in there. Anyway or not. I don't know
But what you're saying is if you're going to go to your state legislator in ohio or idaho or whatever
Stop calling at chemtrails and say I want an end of cloud seating in high aerosol atmospheric spring
You have to call it what it is if you wanted to stop and even if they stopped that
You're saying that regular airplanes flying through the right
Condensation and a humidity amount up there are still going to be putting white mist in the sky
Even if you ban the aerosol spraying the the commercial flights
And you're saying the high private jets up at 45
They're still going to be putting them in there not because they're spraying chemicals on you right but because that's actually
ice particles pretty much right like
Yeah, all a person has to do is go down to like any body shop that paints cars
After they've been in an accident
And go over to their air compressor and and ask the guy
Oh, what's this little canister that's coming off your line right here?
And you'll go oh that that's the what that pulls the water out of the air
What?
Yeah, yeah, compressor is a condenser condensers full water out of the air
We can't have water mixing with our paint
So if all these planes that we see in the sky are using compressed air guess what they're spraying out the back
They're spraying out fine particulates of water
Fine particulates of water at 45 000 feet where it's really fucking cold
Turns to ice. What does ice look like it looks like white little particles
So it's just like people just have to become they just have to understand like
Let go of the fear. Let your mind work a little bit
Understand. Yes, there's pollutants pollutants are not good for us
But if you're going out there every day saying oh, I'm being sprayed like a roach
But yet when you go out on certain days, you don't see any spraying. Well, they must have today off
It must be a holiday. No
The conditions are totally different use these things go to Jim Lee's website
Look at all the things that check out my live stream that I did with them
That the live stream that has all of the the things is why so serious
And it's spelled like serious clouds
And the whole I thought that was cute
So and the because he gives the four different websites that you can use and you put the plugins and you see
And dude, I'm just telling you for half a year. It's
It's on the nose every time like without fail
so