Have you ever seen the Netflix series tape? No, it's shocking. It's like what they're doing in America with kids with Adderall
Which is basically amphetamine sulfate. It's whiz. It's what we call speed
I did that as a kid and I know what it's like and you know they're using this as a drug for ADHD
But they're using it all the way through that doesn't make sense because these kids are having they got a kind of like
Hyperreactive doesn't make sense to me, but they say it helps them with their concentration. I don't get it
I don't get it given this feeding this stuff like six-year-old and
What's happening is because it's hyperactive and you're hyper aware. They're starting to be like
Competition because they're studying at college and if you're on Adderall, you can study longer
So everybody's trying to get on to this Adderall Wow, and it's just like wow
What are they doing? And that was big eye-opening
I started looking at America then everything that country feels like it's under attack because at the end of it
They said this is the second biggest problem in in America the first one being the opium crisis
And it's you know, then you add on to the that was the shocking thing
There's like meth amphetamines totally illegal, but if you have Adderall, that's totally legal heroin is illegal
Exactly, but you know your opioids that your doctor gives you it's fine
Yeah, and they if you look at the opioid crisis
They had the pharmacies that had cues outside them that were three days long
Shut up. No, it's true. They were waiting for three days to get their fix basically
It's that Purdue family, isn't it? The Purdue family is behind the company that makes that opioid an oxycontin or oxycord on or whatever
It is and they lied. They said yeah, it's for breakthrough pain, and it's not addictive
And then you knew what they were doing and how many did they kill a lot?
How many how many years did they do in prison? None none? And this is what I started noticing
I think you know none of these people do any time
You know because where I started waking up was the financial crisis. When was that? Which one 2008?
2008 financial crisis all the Lehman brothers coming down kind of thing because that destroyed me
Because I was living in France time and I was renovating second home
So obviously if there's a financial crisis people aren't buying second homes
And I literally went from two years in advance
To nothing over the like three four me up month period and then like that is when I started looking in
Is it because it's like bankers buying second homes that you're doing up? Well, the funny thing is
the most was in Hs or the
Firefighters it was people in the public sector. What do you mean?
I had more people more clients from the public sector buying second homes in France and from the private sector
Shut up. Are you talking about people high up in the public sector? Are you talking about?
Yeah, some of them were high up, but not all of them. Oh, wow. Yeah
It was a surprise to me
But I suppose they had regular income a lot of these people were sort of my age
So they've been in the system. They bought a house quite cheaply in England
So their mortgage is probably nothing and where I lived in France, you know, we're not talking million-pound houses here
You know, you could problem that I saw people having in France when they bought a second home was their eyes were bigger than their belly
They buy a house. I look at the size of that and it's only 20 grand that you like
Yeah, but that's 200 grand to do that one. Right, but they got excited, you know
Because what you can buy in England and what you can buy there is just so different property prices here are crazy and mad
It doesn't it just doesn't make sense. Well, it does when you see what they're doing
What do you mean? Well, when they start the quantitative easy
And basically, you know, there was a liquidity
Crisis in in the 208 crisis, which we're coming around to again now
What they did was they bought the bad it was bank bailout
They bought the bad bad assets off the banks for street price not cut price full price
but the central banks put them on their balance sheets and
And so instead of having a correction what we got was all this money then went into assets
So it went into the stock market and it went into
Housing and so now all the assets go up and up and up and the people who can afford assets are happy
Yeah, but I think most people can't afford not now
So the other problem is if every consecutive government's pushed properties up, you know
It's all about property prices going up and the problem is you've got all this development for example in London and the South East
But it's foreigners who are investing in it
Yeah, so people from Dubai from Russia from China coming in and buying up all these apartment blocks and then renting the man
Exactly an outpricing, you know all of us
You know I came down from Glasgow and I you know I'm working as a junior doctor. I'm making about 30 grand a year
I've got to live pay, you know the underground ticket everything the food. I had hardly any money
It's impossible, but then you know a one bedroom flat was like 250,000 pounds
I compare that to my dad back in 1980 when he bought his house for two and a half thousand pounds
And I said dad how much were you making? Yeah about two and a half thousand pounds
So his salary for the year was how much the house cost and you know when I was a junior doctor making 30,000 a year
The house was 200 the flat was 250,000. That's a big difference. I mean my dad would say to me son
I don't get it. I'm an immigrant. I could barely speak English when I came to this country
I bought my own house and I climbed up the ladder. I've done, you know, very well
Why is it you you're a surgeon? Why are you always complaining? You don't have any money
Why have you not got your own house because it's a Ponzi scheme and they started on the
Ladder before you. Yeah, he didn't get it though
I tried to explain it to him. He just didn't get it
He thought I was just being reckless and frivolous with my money and I was like what are you talking about?
You know when I bought my first house, right? And I didn't do what you did
I went to college got kicked out and I went to another one and got kicked out of that too
Well done you because I just I hated it just like basically I saw colleges
Let me I write this down you copy it and that's it
And whoever remembers the best at the end is a winner. Yeah, it's don't feel right. It's boring
So this behavior followed. So that's how that went
Yeah, well, this is this is the problem of the whole Ponzi scheme
So anyway, you woke up around 2008. You knew something wasn't right without financial crisis
Just just going on to the houses because this is quite relevant. I was 19 when I bought my first house
I've been working for six months last boarding. I got a piece of paper from the man
I was working with who told wrote down my income and after six months of working
I went and got a fifty thousand pound mortgage because that's how much a two-bedroom back-to-back house was when I bought
China remember when it was but it must have been
1990ish maybe 89
880s it was easy. So that's what your dad came in. It was easy, you know and
Back then it was like I had the house for a few years and I was working and I suddenly I started
That's all the one-bedroom houses don't we're not selling any of these work started slowing down
So I sold I sold my house and like then we had the 80s recession bush
Surprise is dropped and I jumped out at the top. So I went traveling around the world. Nice. So, yeah
Nice, very nice, but it is a Ponzi skin
But in those days there were corrections to the Ponzi ski and when Blair and Brown came in Brown, especially
He said I've had enough of this boom bust economy. He was gonna get a perpetual slow growth
Basically well when have you ever gone through life with the perpetual good times? Yeah, but I would also say I don't like the boom bus cycle
That's also manufactured. This is all the banking people
It shouldn't be like that if you look at what life was like over hundreds of years beforehand
There was no inflation if you look at the chart for inflation
It picks up when you got the Fiat Federal Reserve central bankers printing their own money out of nothing
So they they inflate the prices of everything purchasing power goes down and they
Expand the money to supply and contract it so that they in debt us and then possess all our assets
Yeah, and it's a complete cycle that goes on and on it's manufactured. Yeah
Yeah, I don't really like the whole boom bus. I didn't like it
But in a way, it's quite natural because humans get overconfident
I get confident with stunning and they get overconfident and then they get a correction
So even though
It was an ideal it was because you had that correction as soon as it was out of the reach of the first time buyers
There was a correction. There was something natural about it
It was some kind of free market at work, but it's changed now. No, it's no no free market
The economy is fake. The health care system is fake. Everything is fake
What do you mean by the economy's thick? Oh, it's completely made up
What do you mean they make up all the figures make up all the employment they underestimate inflation
They underestimate the unemployed. It's fake
Isn't it also the fact that almost I think the majority of people now are dependent on the state for the income
Yeah, so the number of people who are actual taxpayers who are funding funding everybody. They're the minority
Yeah, so you got you've basically got like a socialist
Country and then the other thing that's really fake about this economy
So what I'm trying to say is that the number of
actual producers of economic growth is a minority
Yeah, the people who really create the tax everyone else is just feeding off the government hand at and
Basically the minority of taxpayers. Yeah, and then the other thing that's fake in the economy is you don't really have true
Capitalism, you know, we're small medium-sized businesses are competing against each other
Where you've got it's like just monolithic big big like, you know, I think they've done that on purpose
You know like Balfour BT the construction the company, you know, they all get all these companies get big massive grants
So contracts from the government
infrastructure digital infrastructure
physical infrastructure and they basically get these massive contracts for jobs that don't really aren't really needed or
Fail miserably and there's no accountability
So HS to the real way that nobody wants is I don't know what two three hundred billion pounds now
Nobody wants it. Nobody needs it
But it's a gravy train for these big massive construction companies management consultancy firms same with the NHS
You had the digital NHS app. I think they spent 10 billion on it. Where did it go?
Who's head roll for them in track and trace over it. It was 37 billion was they spent. Yeah, where did that go?
I like people don't understand a billion. I don't understand how much money that actually is
You know the way I look at it at the moment is on the because I live on the canals
Government is a short for 20 million pounds a year. Well tracker
There's 2,000 miles of canals and rivers in the UK 37 billion equates to 18 and a half million per mile
Imagine all that infrastructure work all the work
How nice that place all of their rivers and canals would look right now and it's falling apart and
Yet it's no accountability. Where did that money go because we've got nothing boom 37,000 million pounds gone
Gone and it's funny like you don't pay your tax or you don't pay your fine your ticket fine
I mean how much trouble do you get into? Yeah, exactly like for the smallest misdemeanor, you know
Which isn't even a real criminal act. I mean the only thing that should be unlawful is if I do anything
To someone else's physical body do harm to them or their property
If I don't do any harm to someone's body or property frankly, I should be allowed to do whatever I like
Right, I mean, that's the only simple way you look at it, right? That's it
All this other all these other laws and legislation statuses upon statuses all bullshit
It's bullshit and then and then they just and they charge us and fine us and regulate us until it's nonsense
And then so we're always financially crippled you pay 90% of our net gross or gross
Income in taxation director indirect even the money that we've paid tax on and save
We have to eventually pay tax on that as well
And then we've saved everything up and want to give it to our loved ones after we die
Get tax on that even when we're in the grave like we're in our fucking grave and we're being taxed
I mean it is endless
So they screw us left right and center and and then you've got these people and corporations who don't pay tax
everything's in trust funds and foundations and these companies, you know
Literally rob us of billions and there's no accountability. It's like where did this go? You never delivered like what's happening?
It's a good old ways in it. It's a great gig, isn't it?
Oh, they're doing good. We need to get into this gig. Yeah, we do
Just need to centralize power the half the work in the public sector
After the work of the private sector call it the public-private partnership and boom
And boom always thrives when it's a nation of shopkeepers
That's when Britain is great. Britain wasn't great during the time when we're supposed to be
rulers of the world
Which I have doubts about wasn't great for the working-class people. It was terrible
Six-year-olds were stuffed up chimneys younger. Yeah, you were
Have a beer having a beer after work. You got stuck in a boat and you're in the Navy. It's uh, that wasn't great
But even then I still I think that this this hidden system that we've had it been was working even back then
I agree because you look at I look at the difference between
Ireland and India now India is
Thousands of miles away. It has a huge population
Varsely different climate to what we have at the time. We've got ship
Saleships well, you think hold on a minute. There's a supply lines on this and really really thin
How could we possibly rule India without corporate back-end or Indian elite?
Cooperation basically, I don't know about that
I've just put a picture up of chimney sweeps and climbing boys historic
So these are tiny little kids. I like three four-year-old kids. It's awful. It's awful. It was I mean the thing is
I mean, that's the thing. It's a slavery and colonialism
It appears like it's always been outside, but it's not it's always been in here as well in this country
You know the first colonial state was Ireland the first people to be enslaved or the Irish
I mean, I'm McCloskey wrote great sub-stack on this. Yeah, hundreds of thousands were exported out
No, it's sure if that's the case. Not sure if it was an English
What do you mean? Oh, oh, so so go back then what you mean? Well, you think England was colonised. Well, yeah
I do. I think if they're a slave nation really the working class you look at the start of
10 1066 we lose to William the Conqueror and the Norman invasion 1067 the city of London's for well
300 years now we have of elite rule
Establishment rule they don't even speak English if you wonder why the British establishment don't really like the British people
They don't they never have so from 1066 to 1067 1066 was the invasion
Yeah in 1067 formation of the city of London wasn't London already present Londonian muscle for that
Well possibly as far as I know that is the city of London where it's an independent state
I think oh, right?
really
Okay, keep going, but then there's 300 years imagine
What 300 years from when from 1067 from that from the 1066 from the invasion at the French invasion of 1066
We had 300 years where the elite ruled in French. They spoke French
Wow, so we were ruled by a different country basically we still are
His city of London was formed in 47 ad let's you and the corporation was founded by
1141 the whole body the citizenship is considered to constitute a single community this commune was origin the city of London and
The city of London corporation and the citizens gains gained the right to a point with the king's consent a mayor in
1189 so it's around about that around I read in 67, you know, it's any it's the internet
depends which
Bread you go and in 1381 the peasants revolt affected London
The rebels took the city and the tower of London
But the rebellion ended after its leader what Tyler was killed during a confrontation that included Lord Mayor William Walford in
1450 rebel forces again occupied the city Jack Cade's rebellion before being ousted by London citizens following a bloody battle in London Bridge
1550 the area south of London Bridge in Southwick came under the control of the city with the establishment of the Ward of Bridge with that
Wow, this is kind of crazy. I didn't know those massive like rebellious all the time in the
1630s the crown sought to have the corporation of the city of London extend its jurisdiction to surrounding areas and what is sometimes called a great
Refuse of the corporation said no to the king which in part accounts for its unique government structure to the present by the late 16th
Century London increasingly became a major center for banking international trade and commerce the Royal Exchange was set up in
1565 fascinating. I don't think we'd be talking about this, but there you go
Yeah, well, it's different now look at how much of the British economy is
The city of London present day what percentage of the British economy is made up by the city of London
Isn't it something like 30% or something stupid? Well, see what it says
So basically around 1132 by the way, the city was given the right to appoints own sheriffs rather than have sheriffs appointed by the monarch
Strange isn't it and you know what what are these free ports?
They're getting popping up now they're talking about yeah
It's just basically tax havens for the rich tax havens for the rich
My other forms of trafficking because no one will be able to check and see what's going on and what's really
They sort of like they're building a system within a system aren't they in their way?
Yeah, but has it always not been like that a system within a system
Yeah, there's layers of layers funny. She said I was thinking about that. There's just layers and layers
It's just so hard. It's so difficult to understand. Oh marquee to understand what the hell is going on exactly
Just when I think okay. I've got this. They think nah, I haven't got any of this man
So tell me we were having lunch. Did you know did you enjoy lunch? Yes? I did. It was all right
It was very nice. It's the first time this year. I've lit up the barbecue. Really? Yeah, that was on the barbie
Well, you make somebody a fine wife, and you know, I didn't want to I don't want to come in the studio
I just want to sit in the Sun. I knew it was so glorious. The Sun is glorious
It's still glorious now. I know look at your little chickens there. I want to be out there anyway. Sorry
That's all right. You've driven two hours to come and see me today. Thanks, buddy. Yeah, it's a pleasure. All right
So, um, yeah, do you think I was giving Gus Angus Douglas your hard time? Oh, really? I think you were very polite
I was a bit frustrated. Yeah. Yeah, but he doesn't answer anything
Did you notice that?
Really annoyed me the difference I've made the connection I made was to Iris the lady from Singapore. Yeah
Yeah, she was amazing. Why did you like her? Well cuz she was so combative
Give me a survey to the bed a bucket. There's a toilet. I fucking sue you
Sues everyone fire in our belly. Absolutely. And she's obviously not as wealthy as Angus down
Leash she can see people. Why did you mention that?
what exactly was it if you were misrepresented in the
National newspaper for something that important. That was my question. Wasn't it? Yeah, what did I ask him?
Why didn't you sue them? And what did he say?
Which is what he said also when you asked him which vaccines like me a hard time
I was polite
I could have gone for a juggler and said answer the goddamn question
Well, I just I just parked him and I interesting total deflection
Let's talk about how amazing Bobby Kennedy is and let's talk about the bad Chinese and the Wu have
Lably it was almost like it was so deafed the way he just deflected
It was it was not but it was given with this impression of him just being bumbling kind of like around but actually it wasn't
It was actually very smart. You knew what he was doing just like a politician always knows what they're doing
They never answered a question
Prime Minister question time. I never answer the question
So why would why give me a good reason why someone would not want to answer the question?
Well, is there ever a good reason? Not if you're you and me, but you're not profiting from
He might be hurting himself. So he's protecting himself as far as I can see. I don't know about you
But all my life throughout my career
Dude, I shoot straight. I don't do go with a good
I don't do management speak and I don't I don't deflect and talk shit
If I don't know something I'll say I don't know if I made a mistake
I made a mistake and if I know something or I want to give my opinion
I'll give it even though it might get me into trouble. A lot of people can't make mistakes
They can't they can't if you can't say to yourself. I fucked up. I made a mistake
I've got that wrong. You don't learn. You just stayed the same place
I liked what ignored science also said mate. It's a good point. You made ignore science had some people are paid to be
Dumb. Yeah, it's that as well for sure
effects
You know, sometimes we're our worst enemy with his name
To benefit ourselves all the time, you know, and some people just take that to the extreme
Yeah, they can't do anything there like you hurt yourself to tell the truth you
Financially you hurt yourself. They could never do that. Yeah, I guess
It's also depends on like what people think of hurting themselves as well
Some people only think of it from a financial point of view, but not doing it would have hurt my soul
Sure, does that make sense? So yes, while it I took a hit financially and from my career point of view
Well, that's the good thing is I didn't want to take the heart where you know, it just destroys my soul
Money isn't doesn't you're not ruled by money. Yes, not done. I think a lot of awake people aren't ruled by money
Or power a lot of them don't want power
I think that's because even anyone you give somebody a little bit of power you saw it in COVID
It was awful anybody given a slightest bit of power and they're awful one often some sort of trip
Yeah, awful. So another person that people say I'm giving a hard time to is RFK junior
Did you read my re measles?
Substance. I haven't read that one. So it's fine as someone reached out to me from the stakes
I said, I'm not in his tight inner circle, but I'm on the fringes of his circle cut him some slack
He's being attacked by a lot of people within the system and this whole measles epidemic thing
Outbreaks all be manufactured to get him
So my response to that was if people are out to get him and try to attack him if I was him
I would go on X and social media and say guess what?
There are people within the system creating this problem this crisis to make me trip up to bring me down and to discredit me
And I'm not gonna buy the bait and this is the truth about measles and this is the truth about the measles vaccines
And I'm not gonna be recommending the MMR and blah, blah, blah, blah, and I'm not gonna fall for their trap
I would that's just the way I would do it, right? That's me now apparently this person said
Oh, you know what? So he has to play the game and that's why he's recommending the measles shot and blah, blah, blah
And I was like well one that's kind of dishonest because you know the measles vaccine is BS. It's fraudulent
It's made by Merck and GSK
flawed studies look at protocol seven goes on and on and on look at what Merck has been up to its shady past
It's been it's neck deep and like criminal fines and wrongdoings and fabricating results and not paying tax and defrauding the government
You know, you can look all up. I've written about it
It's awful this company that you know, we made a trust and the vaccine has got like a serious adverse
risk profile of 0.3 to 1% and the death of measles death from measles is literally like less than 1 in 10,000
but you could have all these
Medical complications as a result of the MMR, right? It's not without risk and Bobby's recommending it
I'm like, how can you be doing that? And it's like apparently because you know, he's under pressure and this and that and I
said what I said was
If he like if he is literally being bullied right now and he acquiesces to the bullies and goes along to
Satisfy them. Do you think they're gonna be happy with that?
They'll have tasted blood and they're not gonna stop. They will literally take him to the cleaners
He needs to stand his ground and say now I'm not playing this. You're not gonna bully me into this
I see what you're doing. I see your games
I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest with the public and I'm gonna let the truth come out
And that's I'm gonna deal with it. If he is literally going along
Apparently because he's being attacked. That's a wrong tactic in my opinion. What do you think?
I think there's been no honesty to the public at all. I mean, why did we even do the code see I think
What we look what we witness was another bank bailout. Yeah, that's what it looks like to me
You know you had the repo market blow out in September of 2019
They did crimson crime
Contagion in 2019 then you had the black heart. Oh, I can't remember the name of the meeting
But you know the black black rock going direct meeting at Jackson Hole. No, I don't know that one
Oh, well, they had a meeting Jackson Hole and it was going direct in the next crisis
We're gonna have to go direct really which is basically put money in people's pockets because that basically haven't gotten
I did not know about that 19 black rock commented on the US economy and the Federal Reserve
Monetary policy at the Jackson Hole Economic Policy Symposium black rock predicted that the US economy would stall and go into recession early in
2023 black rock noted that the Federal Reserve rates hikes wouldn't solve the problem of low production capacity
Black rock believed that the Fed would eventually stop raising rates due to the damage to growth
Interesting and then you have the event 201 it's like they were and also you have the military games hold on a second
Hold on one sec. I just found something so black rock authored the bailout plan before there was a crisis
Now it's been hired by three central banks to implement the plan all black rock authors of going direct. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah
Stanley Fisher Philip Hildebrand
Gene Bolvin Elga Barge who are these people it's called going direct
That's the financial bailout plan designed and authored by formal central bankers now in the payroll at black rock an investment management of
7 trillion in stock and bonds plan was rolled out in August 2019 at the G7
Summit of central bankers in Jackson Hole months before the public was aware of any financial crisis one month later in September
The U.S. Federal Reserve would begin an emergency repo loan bailout program making hundreds of billions of dollars a week in loans
Like going direct to the trading houses of Wall Street. Wow
Sounding a bit dodgy yet
Massive the Fed plans to leverage the four hundred fifty four billion dollars into four point five trillion
bailout plan going direct
With bailouts to the commercial paper market money markets and a host of other markets
So hold on one second
Basically, the Ponzi scheme is coming to an end is all about to implode and the bankers were like well
We're running out of musical chairs. Let's just inject a whole bunch of musical chairs
So that our friends in the banking world can keep making money at the cost of us you and me
Is that it is exactly and and if you look at the stock market so much money is in that stock market
So inflated you look at the earnings to I can't remember stock guy
But the earnings there's a ratio and to do with the value to earn in yeah
And apparently a Palantir is the biggest bubble in history
It's got something like 60 times the value to earn it
So what they do it is they inflate these companies like Tesla Apple and everything like that
Inflate their share prices which enables them to buy up all the competition and with money this is a fake economy
It's fake. They well, it's not fake money
It's printed money, but that's how they do it and if they give it to you and you're broke
You're gonna spend it with them
It doesn't matter that they get they went direct gave it to the people because they ended up with it all
Anyway, but they only put it in but the only they didn't really give it direct to the people
The vast majority of it went to the financial institutions. Exactly. It was another bailout
That's what I mean like only a tiny that goes to furlough and you know people
It was definitely another bailout. This is why I'm like I say like COVID wasn't just one thing
It was multiple things. There's always multiple vested interests. So let's get digital idea and let's get vaccine passports
Let's get people compliant to take shots. Let's let's do run a human experiment to see how we can manipulate people
Let's see what lockdowns look like. Let's see what universal basic income would look like
Let's see whether you know what we can do with this mRNA tech. Let's see if you can replace traditional vaccines
They pop up a trial balloon, you know lots of things. Well, let's see what the public think, you know
They put will they buy another bird flu pandemic? Whatever it is will they buy it and then they'll
Monitor what they you know and with COVID what happened was they went for it
There was a bailout a secret bailout and then like you say now all let's see if we can push that in
Let's give these vaccines to the old people. They said old people to start with why because they haven't got any pension money to pay them
They broke the government to spend their money
So if they can get rid of the old people that are great
But people were so compliant that they went all let's see if we can get a vaccine passport
And so they just added layers layers of that onion just started going on. Well, let's give it to kids
Why not and then it was like no public pushback and then they pull back percent
That's what they're doing again now with or are they going to do the bird flu because
Problem is most financial crisis happened on September or March
September was a repo blowout March was a lockdown. Did we lock down?
Revirus or did we lock down about a bank's house? Did we lock down to build the banks? Wow?
probably that because you also look at the 2008 and
They had the Occupy Wall Street and the left and the right were beginning to think hold on a minute
this isn't right and
That's what they fear the most people coming together and agree
So what have we seen since 2008 is woke agenda go mad
Everything go mad
Everything they can do to divide they do and that's their modus operandi. Anyway, isn't it divide and conquer 100% do it to everything
That's how they play the game, but it always number one I look at
It's finance first if the money wasn't corrupt. I don't think anything will corrupt. I agree
Unfortunately, the money is corrupt the root of all evil. It is money and power. Who said that I care not
What was that? I care not who who makes the rules if it is
Issues of money. Yeah, who was that? Was it a rough child? Yeah, probably sounds about right then. I'll look it up
Yeah, my rough child
I think that's the person and find it permit me to issue and control the money of a nation
And I care not who makes the laws. That's it. Does it feel like that now? Yeah
They don't listen to us today. Give me a give me control over a nation's currency
And I care not who makes its laws my air rough child. There you go
that is literally it isn't it and I don't know what we're seeing at the moment
I think Europe's gonna get pushed under the bus. I think they are gonna do a bait and switch
What do you mean? Well, we can have one systems dying and a new systems coming in
They are going to give you a win and you will need it for you to accept the new system
You will have to win you will have to choose. They won't enforce it and never do they can't what you mean
They can only a few of them
There's not many of what nine nine percent of people have to borrow money into existence and the point whatever it is
Create that's not even theirs. No, I have nothing and nothing to take for example, you know my little cottage
350 years old I took out mortgage on that
I'm currently just you know paying interest on that basically never existed that money
The bank made it out of nothing crazy isn't they never put any bricks on that house or any roof tiles
They contributed nothing to the house. They made the money out of nothing
And then I have to pay that money back with so much interest
Where you can create money out of nothing you can make the interest off of nothing
And then also every time somebody makes a purchase on a card
They get a percentage of that purchase. They make a tax on every
Transaction made with a car and that's why they don't an income tax and everything. I mean the government gets the income tax
But the government's are owned by them. Yeah, what I'm trying to say is I mean these guys make the mafia look like
Amateurs, yeah, I mean they got the best racket going. Yeah, and this is what I'm saying. It's like
We not the the first column is where it starts and there's evil in this country. It's hard evil
Why'd you say that? Well, you just feel it. It's from the banking sector
We are a lot of the time we are where the center of global finance is and if money is the root of all evil
We got evil sat in our heart. Why did you leave the UK and move to France 25?
I'm quite compulsive
So I actually went to work and they just I was working on the building site and they just started
But all these more and more regulations when a first the first thing that attracted me to working on a building site was
The freedom I could just go to work when I want what my
Go home when I wanted and it was freedom and it was just starting to take that away from us
and I went to work on a Friday and
It was all like the hard hats and this that and the other an argument was I'm gonna walk into the the cafe and
And he said put your heart out on why he's going and a
Forklift truck came with a big pallet of glass board. He said what'd you do if that fell on your head?
To probably die, but anyway, it just started and it was beginning
Having to send off and you had to go off and do this and do that and the regulations were just starting to pick up
I thought I hate this. I don't like this. So I came home. I said to my wife
We're moving to France and
She said oh, are we and yeah, we did went out there first times
You'd ever been to France looked around at a couple of houses like that one and bought it
I think four months later in a caravan two kids four and six and we're off. Wow
That was great great fun. Well done you and going just before we go back to France like
With all those regulations in the last 25 years, what have we got to show for it?
Have we got better homes being made in this country from everything that all the builders tell me like the roofers and stuff like that
They tell me the new bills that are popping up in the last 15 20 years already
They're just crumbling and falling to bits the window frames are all made of pine wood and are disintegrating
There's dampness everywhere. They have these regulations heat sustainability energy system that you know, there can be no
Air loss or air at the rooms that do air testing, but the buildings don't breathe
Everything is made of artificial cheap material. They're basically houses made of poison
They are and they rock from the inside
They rock from the and so what I'm trying to say is like what the hell have all these
Regulations and laws actually done to benefit anybody anywhere like and and and for example in the construction industry
Are we get her getting better homes being built now?
Go to work. It's about building so it goes with all building even if it's car
You go to Oxford or something like you're got a lovely old cottage. It's lovely. It's got a soul new builds
They got no soul. There's nothing there. You don't feel it you walk into
Our little we house does have so does it does it's so funny like I have to remind myself of that
Your bricks were made by hand everything was made by hand. It was laid by you know, it was designed by man
It was built by man with my natural, you know the bricks made from clay
Then you've got the light you probably got a lime watering lime mortar
Latham plaster inside that mean there's some places, but it's a bit more modern plaster
Most of it is Latham plaster. They're all breathable flexible and they're still here. Yeah 350 years later still standing
This is why I mean like we've gone forward in time, but I think we've gone backwards. Well, yeah
We've definitely gone backwards like we have gone so much backwards where a house that's built now won't be standing in like is will
Be in such a poor condition 25 years and this house has been built 350 years ago 100 years before America
You know was yeah found it. You know what the hell?
Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong. He's got a leaky roof and there's some things but you are standing and it's better and better
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It has a soul it does it's like if you look at the the motor cars of the 50s and 60s
Rounded and beautiful. Yeah all built by they got a soul you go to on the building side
If you go to Oxford go walk around all the old Oxford buildings and like the academics always get all the praise for Oxford
But you know what the builders did. It's gorgeous. It just makes you feel it, you know
And that's what we do. That's what they are trying to take away from us everywhere replace us with machines sterile
It's it's completely sterile. There's nothing they don't last. It's there's no longevity. They don't care for that because
They make more money. So what why did you leave France? You came back a year ago?
I came back one because COVID like in France what I was doing
I could have carried on working but I had to move to a cheaper area because my area got too expensive for second homes
So I started traveling to work so I'd work in Scotland or I work down the south and it was just causing problems with the family
You know and I wanted the kids to go to the same school. I didn't want to I
Didn't want to break that up
So what we ended up doing was my wife went to work as a teacher and I renovated a house. So
That worked well. But once the kids all grown up stayed at the same school two of them came back to England
So I didn't have that any more work was not so great
Brexit came along and that was a bit tough final nail in the coffin really. No, it wasn't fun
COVID was because
The British we got COVID easy here, you know, France wasn't like that. What do you mean?
Well, France is you have the gendarmes in France. They're all armed anyway
It's it just overnight looks like turned a switch on it was very authoritarian straight away
And the first year wasn't so bad. You could wear a mask if you wanted to but not enough
They didn't have enough vaccine uptake. So then they really turned it up a notch, you know
Mask compulsory everywhere
180 euro fine
I see old ladies now in the middle of the countryside on their own with a mask on petrified
But you know, then you had the vaccine passports all came in
So we couldn't go to cinemas just got excluded and but that happened so quick
He's like presidential bush and it was done
And they went with it and I was like and um when you're out there
Like did you ever think the EU's undemocratic or you like a EU loving kind of fan?
Like I'm just saying like I I was part of the Brexit party. I hate the idea of the EU
I've looked into its undemocratic. I mean if you look at Ursula the one that whatever
She was sending text messages to the head of Pfizer negotiating a contract
Like where's the paper trail? She suddenly lost all the text messages
And I've looked at the way they do the laws the bureaucrats are the ones that run the roost and the people in the assembly
I mean, they literally it's had james freeman here. He said it's a complete joke
It's just they they pitch up and they get to vote on it and rubber stamp it and they you know, they can't
Initiate legislation. They can't revise it. They can just talk about it and that's it
And they got like literally like half a minute to talk about it when I started
I never really thought about it
When the Brexit lot came started coming in I started looking into it and I came to the same conclusion as you did
So I would have voted leave not because because it would have hurt me it did hurt me
But it was the right it was the right move vote leave get out
Well, we haven't actually got out. That's what people don't realize
No, we haven't my um
My father-in-law was a counselor. He was in in um the leave camp and my daughter would go out my
Eldest daughter would be going out and she was campaigning for leave and I got a phone call
God, no time in the morning and she's ecstatic
And I like that you won well done
But you know, I had to my vote my sympathies would have been with I didn't get a vote
Been away too long being what it's like now
What it's like now is like imagine I'm going for a divorce right and my idea of divorcing would be like I've divorced
I've left this this cottage and I've moved on. I can marry someone else. I can you know, whatever
I'm not tied financially. What's happened is um the idea of leave is I still have to live here
I still have to do what my wife tells me. I still have to pay her
She gets to make all the decisions
Yeah, and I I get to live here in the garden studio if you're lucky if I'm lucky
Yeah, but I um, but I but I still have to you live in the garden studio
But you have to pay for the house
I have to pay for the house and everything in it and everything in it and all the decisions I made in that house
And I don't get a choice to say
That's what our brexit is like from looking at far
Really like I was like, whoa, what is
Establishment doing it because they lost them. They lost the plot. I mean they were
I don't think they were expecting the vote to go their way. I've been told by people
And in positions of power that the actual vote was something like seventy seventy five percent leave
Andrew Bidgen was telling me that it was massive the lethal and they were shocked even Boris Johnson
He didn't want to leave. It was all fake and he oh, she lives fine
And she said he said Andrew Bidgen said went Boris found out the result
You should have seen his face. It was like he'd seen a ghost. I was like, oh, shit. Oh, shit
What we're going to now and so from that moment it was like right
How do we get brexit name only and everything was engineered backwards right away?
And then so what they wanted to say was we can't tell them it's 75 because that all I'm bold and everybody
We tell them it was really close
We tell them that they just got through the pesky idiots these racist old white men
Yeah, you know these stupid idiots. They pushed it through. Well, they did I did the right thing
You have to admit they did a great job
Skipping it they did that's when I first saw the years showed their hand
Quite a lot because I was taken back. I was like, well, what is that? That's not normal
What do you mean? Well, I was in a waking up process anyway from a very slow one like I was saying too early
I had a really slow waking up process. It was from 2008
You know a bit more time on my hands work wasn't great
So you start looking into the finance financial thing is a thing in
In 2000 I wrote all the I was just watching Bloomberg. I wrote all these shares
like
Google Apple Amazon gold blah blah. I know this little portfolio going and I thought right. I got under a grand. I think shall I
Buy that or shall I buy this rundown house? It's fallen down
So I decided to go for the rundown house
It's falling down because to me that being a builder that was a safe option
Well difference was if I'd have gone for the shares, I'd have made 10 times what I made doing the house
And I wouldn't have to do anything. But anyway, I was having this very slow
waking up process
and
YouTube was very different in those days, you know, youtube
Didn't have the censorship that you get off here now
You could leave links
And like so you could actually be a bit of a virus. So somebody kept on leaving this link
About agenda 21. So that was in 2012. I knew about agenda 21
Rosa core or quarry not seen that no, you should find that and look at that
Okay, because everything she said is you're just watching it happen. How do you spell on it? Rosa r o s a
Quare k o i e
She's got she wrote a book called behind the grain mask. All right. She was the original agenda 21
Person she was a democrat. Wow founder. Yeah in america. Rosa quarry. Okay
Died suddenly of cancer shut up. Yeah recently bugger. Well, I guess I'm not getting her am I sure
No, it should be ashamed. It's sandy adam
is taken on
Her role now I think the english she's of english Rosa quarry
But she did talks back in 2012 you watch them and you think wow, you know
I'd still think I was a bit of a conspiracy theorist back then
But I had this slow awakening where I could actually
Watch what she said and then
Actually watch it happen thinking wow, she was right. This is happening. I'm watching it happen
And then the brexit you sort of got that feeling that
It went against the establishment. I really wanted to they want to push us into these
Bigger and bigger trading blocks, don't they? Yeah, they do. So it's really funny
One of the things I'm really upset about is that people look at the reform party and the leadership of the brexit parties
If they're like great guys and it's like but they never delivered brexit. No, they totally sabotaged it. That was their job
It was like the Pied Piper lead you down a merry old path. Do you trust Nigel Farage? Do you know him?
I've met him shared a stage with him went to dinner where he was at the same table as me
I've been on his show twice. He doesn't talk to me like it's really funny
I've been on the show and like he'll see me and he just kind of make this like half
Half eye contact nod
But like believe it or not before the show you won't talk to me. Say, oh, hi. How's it going?
What are you doing? Oh blah blah and then after the show, it's the same. It doesn't go. All right
Thanks for coming but no don't trust him personally. I don't trust it
First talking about the migrant crisis with all the illegals coming in on the boats, you know, you know
There's a couple of English guys that were following it but very small
You know, I'm saying look, this is what's happening
And like a year or two after they started blowing the whistle on it
Nigel Farage turns up and the show for driven Bentley driving around the hotels and you're like
That doesn't look very organic
You know something to
Is that smelly there? He's a man of the people. Yeah, I'm sure and the people they'd like that
He's the guy let me know
Even if you don't trust him, I don't trust your judgment because any man
You would recommend Tony Blair to be a vaccine czar
That was it for me. Yeah done done as soon as he done that over done. Sorry. I'll get back boom, right
Bushman, I'm not having any of this. Some people say, oh, you're so black
Listen, you have to you have to do you know what we are?
Do you know what we're up against?
You know at stakes that we're up against, you know, who we're fighting do you think?
They're gonna give you any quarter you think they're going to show you mercy you think they're going to give you a heart attack?
You think they're gonna give you a second chance? They're trying to poison you every which way they try to dumb you down
They're trying to kill you prematurely. They want you stressed. They want you stupid. They want you enslaved
Like seriously, you've literally got someone coming into your house and raping and killing
your family.
It's incredible.
And you want me to say, excuse me, can you stop that?
Like, no, maybe we need to have a little bit of fire in us and go, enough.
So when I was reading that thing about the city of London, do you know what?
I hear that and my heart goes out to them.
Let me just read it out again.
They were riots.
There were riots who said, we've had enough.
The peasants revolt, 1381.
We've had enough.
1550 rebel forces.
We've had enough.
Jack Cage rebellion.
I'm sorry, mate.
I have to be careful what I say.
I don't want to be accusive, inciting anything, but it's kind of like, I've had enough.
I've had enough.
It's at that level now where, you know what?
Something radical has to be done to pull these people, people down.
We've fed up.
What I'm really fed up of is these people are vile and disgusting.
They do whatever they want and they never suffer any consequences.
Can you give me one example of anyone who has?
No.
I don't know of any.
Not even the lower down ones.
Exactly.
They get in their way.
We don't even know who the high ups are.
Like the GPs who are vaccinating people and getting paid for it.
Yeah, exactly that.
Like I'm talking about lower down, like lower down.
Every one of the strata, whether you look right at the top, the engineers, the puppet
masters, to their favorite lieutenants and captains who are like, you know, the
politicians and then below them, the media celebrities and the philanthropists and
then trickle down to the bureaucrats and the civil servants and below that,
the professional class who's enacting all their evil.
Every strata of the layers of shit to none of them have paid any consequence.
And you're just like, and I'm meant to like, you know, give them a
chance and like take it easy and don't be so.
No, do you not understand what's at stake?
It's huge.
And they all lie to get the jobs, even in, you know, the highest,
you know, Angela Reiner's lie, Stammer lies.
They all lie.
They lie to get the jobs and then they're found out.
The lies are found out.
Joe was really funny that I saw recently in this poll, what party would you
trust the NHS with and reform was leading up front?
And you know, I've been invited twice to the show on GB News
and they wanted me to diss the private sector.
So the NHS sector, public sector, they wanted me to promote private
because they knew I was a private surgeon and I came on.
I did the exact opposite.
I said, look, I'm not a fan of the NHS, but I'm not a fan of private
health care because, you know, it's not a choice of this or that.
You're giving me, there's a third way.
So what I mean by that is NHS is basically massive centralization,
health extraction of the taxpayer to global core pharmaceutical
management, consultancy, that's all it is.
It's a conduit of taking your money and giving it to them.
The alternative they're offering is basically we, the taxpayer,
just paid directly to Big Pharma and in the global corp, basically.
You get rid of the in-between government taking our money and giving it to them.
It's just a direct transfer.
That's all it is, right?
I don't like either both for centralized structures, both deprived
doctors of the ability to practice freely, both deprived
patients of choice and proper health care.
It's managed sick care system.
So what I would want is to educate children how to be healthy.
You know, it's going to be on my book.
It's simple, right?
You don't need money.
You don't need supplements.
You don't need any of that kind of stuff.
And so it's just about the right choices that you make in life.
So that you start educating your children.
You suddenly reduce the disease burden.
And next, all the hospitals are local community run, charitable,
nonprofit organizations where every single one of us is the
stakeholder and makes the decisions.
And we get to dictate who's who's at the top of the board.
And it's us and it's doctors and the public in every local
hospital who runs the hospital, not management, consultancy firms,
not layers of management and bureaucracy, not the central government.
No, can we do that for government as well?
I'd love to.
So I look, if it was up to me, I'm like an anarchist,
not like violent anarchists.
Anarchists, I do not want a ruler over me.
And it would be all localism, local communities run themselves.
And if you want, if you have a central state, I mean, by all
means, send representatives twice a year, maybe to meet, discuss
certain things, but you don't need to have a place where people
meet and get salaried.
And actually, when you get appointed to be this represent,
it's like paying the ass.
It's like a burden.
Like you didn't ask for it.
You don't want it, but it's like a duty that you have
to do to serve the community.
So it's not like I have, I want a career in politics.
I want to be a politician because I know it's a gravy train.
I know there's revolving doors and I'm going to get promoted
upwards and to boards and, you know, I might get, what is it?
I might become the Facebook or Google.
You know, what was it that Liberal Democrat leader became?
You know, the head of the head of MetaLag.
Yeah, like Facebook, I mean, you know, all this kind of stuff,
right? So it's everywhere.
But people like Tony Blair are literally multi-multi millionaires.
Like how do you make all that money as a PM?
I don't get it.
Or Nancy Pelosi.
How'd you end up getting two, three hundred million?
Four hundred, innit?
Four hundred.
Like how does that happen?
So all these people choose this pathway because it makes
them incredibly rich.
Well, do you know there's a Nancy Pelosi fund where they would
follow her, track her trades and follow her.
No.
Because she was like as good as the best trader there was.
That is hilarious.
Yeah, just follow her.
So anyway, you left France, now you're on a boat.
How do you like in that?
I love it.
What you do on a rainy day?
Yeah, that's not great.
But, you know, you find things to do, you listen to you.
What did you listen on the drive down here?
I didn't listen to anything because I was watching the map
and you kept on phoning out when the map kept on disappearing.
I was like, stop it.
Because if this goes, I'm not very technical.
Well, you know, it was just, I just suddenly had this thought.
You're driving down, it's lunchtime.
You're going to be hungry.
I should make something.
And I just wanted to time it.
That's why.
So you're lovely.
I'm trying to be man.
Trying to be.
What are you going to listen to on the way home?
I'm finishing off.
Was it the Duke report that you said, oh, this one's lovely.
Yeah.
About Jesus.
That was really good.
Yeah, I'm halfway through that.
I want to listen to the rest of that.
Definitely.
Can I recommend this great podcast?
It's the Doc Malik Shorts and it's on Technocracy.
Really?
Episode 3O.
You've got Patrick Wood, haven't you?
Yeah, 3O.
I will watch that, definitely.
Definitely watch it because I've been watching Patrick since about 2016.
He's a legend.
He is.
He was phenomenal.
He's another one who's like, you'd watch the old school and what I call
by the old school is Rosa Core, Patrick Wood and.
Geo Griffin.
James, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I've got a name for you, James Corbett as well.
Fantastic.
Have you seen his deep dives?
I've seen one or two of his things.
I need to get one, don't I?
I do.
We've seen him because he's a bit conspiracy.
You know, the way he is, just his normal personality.
His deep dives are phenomenal.
Like 9-11 in the missing trillions, the Billing Millindigates,
who is Bill Gates.
These are four hour deep dives and they're incredible.
It's just like really good.
The other one you should get on right now is Rise UK, Ben Rubin.
I've heard of him, yeah.
You should get him on because he's on UK column.
You've been on that as well now, haven't you?
And he's doing about the global leaders, these women global leaders,
the series on them called the Andy Lyons or something like that.
Chucky.
Really?
Yeah, you've got to have a listen to what they're doing.
All these people are made men and women.
They're manufactured.
They're promoted and invested in and equally like, for example,
places like Oxford and Cambridge or Stanford and Harvard.
I think they're basically like where the intelligence agencies go.
To harvest recruits.
And I think that's all they are.
Not completely.
I mean, not everybody who goes here is like they have a look at everyone.
I bet I bet because they're looking at you.
If you don't think that the intelligence agencies are looking at you,
you're having a laugh.
No, I'm sure they are looking at me.
They are definitely looking at you.
But I'm a little little minimal.
Yeah, only because they suppress you.
I have to tell you how they do that because I'd consider you sort like a virus.
Sorry, no virus people.
But just imagine it, right?
And then people who watch you, the contagion.
So then they're saying, well, you're getting freedom of speech.
You're not getting censored so much.
Well, you're not.
But we are.
We are getting sat on like I have.
I'm on my fourth YouTube account.
I can't leave links.
I can't even leave comments.
So that's a crush.
My videos get taken down all the time, by the way.
Yeah, on YouTube.
But this is happening on Substack, too.
I don't believe in something's happened to Substack.
But Substack is just another one.
Substack, something's changed in Substack.
Yeah, it's another.
It's exactly.
I get so many people billing failed.
I don't get as many paid subscribers anymore.
But it's not just me.
I've heard lots of.
I'm hearing that, too.
I'm hearing that by a lot of people.
And it's like the alternative, like liberal lefty ones, they get promoted.
They're getting like massive subscriber jumps.
When Trump came in, all of a sudden, I'm flooded with them.
Oh, God, no, come on.
Give me a break.
I can't listen to you for too long.
Exactly.
It's just, I just feel like everywhere, every which way
we're being crawled into little echo chambers.
Like when I was in Twitter as a pandemic, I had never been on it.
So I thought, I'm going to go on there and because I was awake to it.
And I wanted immediately I was awake.
There was no couple of months of make sure.
But by that time, I know.
Yeah.
So I just wanted to stop people from getting it.
I did the about the vaccine, leading to the vaccine passport,
leading to the central bank digital currency, leaving to your enslavement.
And that got that one went mental.
And I've only been on about six weeks and I was getting up to 3,000 followers.
And then I noticed that I'm just getting clobbered
and put in these because a couple of people I knew on Twitter.
And it was like they put you in a box and then a week later,
they put you in another box and then a week later you put.
And then I started like, I know him from fishing.
And he's a big name in fishing.
I know him and like he followed me, I followed him.
And then it just come up first week of the month up here to start popping.
So they just pop you into these little boxes and they contain you.
So we need to wrap up.
I need to pick up the kids by the way to come by.
So I just want to say thank you to all my subscribers.
My two this week.
That's the thing.
I'm losing two, three a week.
And again, two, three a week.
Something's happening with Substant.
I'm telling you right now something weird is happening.
But anyway, Izzy, Izzy, Izzy Zinnaberg.
Thanks for subscribing and Isaac, Isaac Middle.
God bless you guys and LLB.
Thank you so much for subscribing and supporting.
Thank you, by the way.
Yeah, no worries for subscribing and supporting.
This is for stories.
Well, thank you so much.
And I think everyone listening, you know, to help like bypass the censorship,
if you can share my podcast with your friends, family, send links all the time.
Let's fight the system.
Like just get the word out.
Tell people to listen to my show.
You know, they don't even need to subscribe.
You know, I get it tough these days, but just get as many people listening,
as many eyes and ears on my show as possible to bypass, you know, all the BS.
Totally agree with that.
Is that reasonable?
Yeah, totally.
Right. Last question of the day, buddy.
You're on your deathbed before you pass on, meet your maker.
What words of wisdom and advice are you going to give?
Like when I won't be in bed.
Now, hopefully I die on my feet.
Nice.
Be free.
And words of wisdom.
Not going to get any of that from me.
That's for you.
Love it. All right.
Well, listen, God bless you and safe journey back home, buddy.
Cheers, mate.
Seriously.
Nice to meet you anyway.
Nice to meet you too.
All right, bye bye.
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Thank you so much.
Lots of love.
And it's lovely to have you back on the supporter podcast,
which I have not done many of recently because I've just been so busy.
But the supporter podcast is one of the most popular ones.
Like people love the episodes because I think what they love is all of you,
you know, my listeners, the supporters that I get on are just normal,
decent human beings.
You're not, you're not out there trying to, you know, influence people.
You're not, you're not trying to make a career.
You're not got any agenda.
You're not funded by anybody in my six.
You guys are just normal people, normal people who don't have a voice otherwise.
And it's nice to hear what you guys have to say.
And I really appreciate your comments, Pascal.
Oh, thank you.
I hope I can contribute something in this difficult times.
Interesting times also.
But so, yeah, indeed, as you say, if you have a voice
which is not compromised with money, it's kind of be more reliable.
Because there's no hidden agenda.
Well, you never know, I could have written a hidden agenda.
You could have hired me and theory.
It could be the conspiracy between the two of us.
And so, yeah, you never, you can never say, never, you can never trust anything.
So you have to try to try to do the triple, how do you call it?
The triangular check always.
How do you use the triangulation?
It's called James Corbett calls it triangulation.
I heard it from him and I looked it up on the on the Internet.
What was how do you apply it to because I was thinking about geometry
and how do you determine the height of a mountain by looking from two
different viewpoints and then you can with the angles.
You can the different angles.
You can calculate the height of the mountain without having to climb it.
So in this case, you have to triangulate my and see if you can find something
about me, which is compromising this, I don't think you will find anything.
Because it's not true.
Yeah, well, there's nothing to do too high.
Yeah, well, I'm not worried about your hidden agendas.
I mean, like the simple fact is, right, I don't have a poker face, right?
So I literally wear my emotions and feelings on my face and people can see that.
I got nothing to hide and I admit I get things wrong.
And the thing is, as for trust, you know, it's funny.
I was telling a friend recently, there's so much out there on social media
and you think it's pulling on your emotions and your heartstrings.
Like, you know, fundamentally, you know, the only thing I can really trust
is everything that I see with my own eyes and here with my own ears,
like literally in my vicinity and the friendships that I have
and people that I can literally touch and I know they're real and I exist.
That's my that's my reality.
And when it comes to social media content, what I create, because I know the
conversations that I'm having are I'm I'm doing it with the best intentions,
with honesty, integrity and I have no hidden agenda and I get things wrong.
And I'm allowed to change my mind as new information comes along to me.
But everything else, everything else out there on the Twitter sphere
or Instagram or sub-stack or whatever, electronic.
I don't know. I don't know what's good.
I don't I don't even believe that everything we've taught has been a lie.
I mean, I don't even believe that air is what they say it is.
Like, I'm not saying it's flat air, but I'm just saying I'm open to everything now.
I just don't trust anybody.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, that's that's exactly the problem of the present times,
that you trust, don't trust everything, anything.
And the general public and they if they don't have a reason,
they just do to investigate, they just trust what they see on the television.
They trust what they see on the YouTube.
It's incredible how people and then they they they they shared the YouTube a few
days ago, but Chris from nine, some baby got an injection with some
genetically modified, I don't know, exactly involved lipid nanoparticles.
It wasn't a baby, a so-called rare disease.
And the guy on Facebook shared it.
Yeah, I have pts in my ass.
Thank you, Chris, for nine.
And he believed everything.
It's as I was in case immediately my red flags go up.
I had the first red flag is well,
this reminds me about the term Trump agenda in the beginning,
where they want to have these AI artificial
intelligence, generated mRNA shots, vaccines for cancer.
It's immediately my my my my my the click and then I see the baby say, OK,
they play on emotion like they do with to to to to to get the support for the wars.
They throw a so-called that I have some some some girl acting on the on the
camera that she has supposedly saw soldiers throwing babies on the on the floor.
Everybody, of course, enraged.
You have the support of war.
You have the Gaza with the baby story.
It's all the same.
And the red flags are immediately just one nanosecond.
But they just don't know.
So yeah, they get brain and my mother also with climate change.
All on the ocean.
They play on the emotion to show a disaster picture of a flooding.
And the poor people and they are, of course,
very bad circumstances.
It plays on your emotion.
And then, of course, it's the climate change narrative is interwoven with the story.
If you repeat it many, many, many times all over that these are the two
principal components of brainwashing emotion shutting down the critical thinking.
And then repeating the facts, repeating, repeating, repeating.
So you get an anchoring.
They call it a new nuclear program programming and anchoring or a hard
coupling between two, if you if you present two things at the same time,
then they do the two get couples.
And just because that's presented at the same time, not that they have any
relation to each other, cause a causal relation or whatever relation,
just a timely relation in time that they happen at the same time.
So well, that one means it's going to mean the other.
Yeah, that's how they do it.
And a lot of people, they just don't realize it.
And also, they don't have time, man.
They don't have time to investigate.
They have a job, a family.
They have 40 hours per week or 60, 36 hours per week work.
Then they come tightly home.
Then they have to take care of the family.
And then they are a little bit exhausted in the night.
They do not have the energy to read documents, to watch podcasts.
They have no, also, they have no reason to doubt.
They have no reason to doubt.
And if you have no reason to doubt, you're not investigating.
So there's a lot of things working against the people.
They have a lot of people have just no chance.
They have no chance.
They have not the bandwidth in time, in energy.
And then they come and they have the history of a government which has done a lot
of things good media, which have told a lot of stories, good.
But they don't think it's still the case.
That's the problem.
Yeah, this is one of the root causes, I think, present.
The situation we are in and many people are victim of this, of this brainwashing.
And so they vote for the politicians, which are showing a nice story and not
knowing that almost complete every story is light.
It's light. Everything they tell almost everything.
You started your introduction, our podcast here.
You're basically everybody in your public houses.
So basically, I love Meredith Miller's new book and it talks about the state of the people.
I know what you're saying, they're brainwashed and they're exhausted.
And you said victims, they're abused.
The population is abused and the government and the authorities have been the abusers.
And there are many flying monkeys, enablers, people who enable the abuse.
And if you're in come from an abusive family with maybe an abusive
parent or two, there's always a child who is a golden child who is also an enabler
of the abuse to the other siblings.
And in society now, the very small number of evil people at the top have managed
to get a lot of people to become enablers of that abuse.
And you saw that with the police, the judiciary, the doctors, even amongst your
family, your work colleagues, people were just ramping up the abuse.
And I think that's the mindset that we need to get into that this is a massive
global trauma abuse system and the victims are bonded like Stockholm syndrome to their
abuser. And when they come home, for example, from work,
there might be a workplace abuse institution, workplace, NHS, you name it.
Colleagues might be abusing them, whatever.
Government's abusing them, taking tax from them, putting down stupid
rules and laws that no one ever voted for.
And then when they come home, they go into fantasy land, they want to flee.
And that's why they watch their TV and Netflix.
They want something that will soothe them, comfort them.
And then the reality is all that stuff on TV is actually another form of abuse.
It's just more abuse on abuse.
It's gaslighting them.
It's putting fear into them.
It's reinforcing the programming that they've been had.
It's very difficult to break out of an abusive relationship.
Anyone who's been abused knows that it's scary, it's terrifying.
You think you can't escape.
You think you're helpless and it's hopeless.
And that's why we like Meredith's book, because it frames everything.
In this abused abuser relationship.
Once you see that, then you can start taking steps to break free.
Yeah, once you see that.
But I think that this holds for a part of the society.
They see that they are abused, but a lot of I think the majority has no clue
that they are abused.
They think the government is handling, is governing in the best interest of them.
They think there is no conspiracy.
They just, yeah, this is this word, I don't like to use it.
But basically, George Orwell used it also in his Animal Farm sheep.
It's a pretty good metaphor.
It's a little bit down talking on this people, but they
take a particular subject, which they believe, for example, climate change.
They basically, yeah, they don't use their common sense.
And that's subjects and that's subject.
And that's a specific subject there.
They are sheep.
And then when they return to their job, they put their full intelligence,
their common sense, their logical thinking, the facts, they put all in.
And the whole machinery is working perfectly.
And then, so in that subject, that context, they are not sheep.
But in the context where the government and all this big stories in society.
So tell me, tell me about the Netherlands.
What's happening in the Netherlands?
Does anybody want an exit?
Does anybody want to leave the EU?
Are you all fully on board?
Does everybody love NATO?
Does everybody love the war against Russia and Ukraine?
Do they all want to support that?
I mean, what is the situation?
If I look at the voting, if I can take that as a metric,
how much percent votes on which party?
Then, yeah, there was one party in the Netherlands.
Well, there were three, but the most important one of the three is the forum for
big democracy, it's called, forum for big democracy.
And they see all the agendas.
They want to next it.
You see that the European Union is only suppressing all kinds of laws
which are not in the interest of the Netherlands.
All these treaties, international treaties, they do.
They see the World Economic Forum influence and that our prime ministers are going
there to visit these these meetings and get brainwashed there and talking
about all the kind of things which we which we are not allowed to know.
They know that this party, this forum for democracy,
also knows that the climate change is a scam.
They called it out before covid.
I saw it, yeah, I noted it on LinkedIn.
It's also a very good day.
He also knows that it's a scam.
I was surprised, but he's only one of the few.
And then, yeah, all those, there's the Kalergi plan on the migration.
They also addressed it in the second chamber, they call it.
And how is it how do you call it?
I'm not so familiar with all these political chambers.
But yeah, in the Netherlands, it's called 3D Karma.
Yeah, so this party knows that also they were against covid, the measures,
the lockdowns, they have all they take all the boxes, they take all the boxes.
And now, and now, and now you see the last election, the last election.
What happens, you have a lot of parties.
You have to establish the left side parties and we know left and right is
not valid, or you say, in the designation of what's happening.
But I had to talk about globalist and decentralized mindset.
But yeah, if you look at how the election process went,
this form of this this party who takes all the boxes right, the biggest party,
one of the biggest party gets invited on the news in the Netherlands about
three hundred twenty seven times or something in talk shows and
in all kinds of discussion programs.
And now for democracy, how do you know how do you know how many?
None, zero, OK, zero times they are invited.
OK, so my mother didn't even know about the they changed the leader
from Terry Buddha to lead away the false and my mother didn't even know
before before she had to vote, but she didn't want to vote that there
wasn't a new change of leadership in that party.
OK, I see.
So I can just unfair playing field.
Just not this is basically straightforward manipulation of elections.
If you even believe that an electing even if you if you elect this this party,
which takes all the boxes right, even if you would have a hundred percent majority,
I still doubt that they could do anything because the system is so big
in which they have to operate.
Yeah, so basically in the Netherlands, you've got a lower house of representatives.
That's got a hundred and fifty hundred and fifty seats.
And the Democrats have currently got twenty six seats.
There's Centre Left Liberal Party.
They want democracy, right, video freedom, pro-EU.
I mean, that's a contradiction in terms of your freedom, pro-democracy,
while also pro-EU doesn't make sense because EU is not democratic.
It's not about individual freedoms.
So that's that's a Democrats.
Then you've got the party for freedom.
They've also got twenty six seats.
They're right wing, populist, nationalist party, anti-immigrate, anti-immigration,
anti-Islam. They've got your skeptic views.
While the Wilders, Geert Wilders, ask for, you know, a referendum.
He doesn't explicitly say that we're going to leave.
And I've seen this before, by the way, these people pretend to be anti-EU
and want an exit, but actually it's just all talk.
And then you've got the People's Party for Freedom and Democracy.
They've got twenty two seats in their center, right party.
And they're about free market, professional growth, economic growth.
And then you've got the Green Party, twenty seats, Christian Democratic Party,
18 seats, but this forum for democracy has got seven seats.
Yeah, OK, yeah, they get seven seats and they get boycotted.
And nobody wants to work with them.
This they're always called right extremists and all these kind of,
yeah, you know, the terminologies they use for them.
Yeah. And the people buy it, the people buy it.
And yeah, of course, some people don't because they have,
indeed, they have the seven seats, but yeah, compared to twenty six and twenty
and then all these parties, it's very few.
It's very still, it's still, it's still, it's, it's, yeah.
They should have the majority based on logic and based on facts
and what is best for the Netherlands.
The policies, if they would be able to explain all television in a fair debate.
When they are invited in the past,
there was a sabotage set up from the food to sabotage him coming,
the leader, that case, to sabotage him when he came on some program.
The very few programs he came on.
Of course, it's always like that.
It's always like that.
It's a stitcher.
They do it in such a, they do it in a way that you're made to look like an idiot
or irrational, unreasonable, not somebody that is credible.
That's the whole point of it.
They don't let you to finish the sentences, finish your points,
all these kind of tricks they play.
And so one thing I've realized is lies love sound bites.
Quick, snappy, short, little sound bites, repetition.
That's how the lies work in propaganda.
The truth is honesty, truth requires time, because first of all,
you need to debunk the lies, demolish the propaganda, lay down the foundation
of objective truth and then present the facts that telling the truth doesn't work
in sound bites, telling the truth doesn't work.
It's like, for example, if you're going to have some nice food,
you know, you need to take time to go to the farmer's market, get the right
produce, prepare it at home, cook it, have a nice meal.
That's that's that's me giving you the truth.
But if you want that a lot pull up at the McDonald's driveway, drive through
and just collect your happy meal, you know, for two minutes.
I mean, it's quick, boom, there you go.
But it's all a lie.
It's not real food.
And that's the problem when you get invited on these TV shows.
And I've been invited to talk about things a few times, just a handful of
times, and it's very difficult.
Pascal, because it's like 30 seconds, say what you want.
And it's like, how do I explain this very difficult, complex
situation or give an answer that is meaningful in a sound bite?
That doesn't work, but lies work, lies work like that.
So the scales are tipped.
And that's one of the reasons why I wanted a long format podcast,
because it takes time to break down the issues and get people to really
understand it.
It's not something that can be done in 30 seconds, one minute, five minutes,
even 10 minutes takes time, you need to take people on a journey.
Yeah, that's this and a lot of things in society are complex issues.
So, yeah, to tell the truth, just takes a lot of time.
Very simple things like how the economy works.
People are not teached.
How the climate, how complex the climate is, how complex is it?
They presented as a very simple knob of the carbon dioxide.
Turn the knob down, the temperatures go down, then the knob up, temperature goes up.
Well, the reality is much more complex.
And all these issues like nutrition, you know, I think a lot of about it the same.
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Right, folks, back to the show.
So these issues are complex issues.
And so when I was younger, the Netherlands was meant to be a very rich,
prosperous, modern country, clean.
Are you facing the same problems that we've got?
Deindustrialization, mass migration, roads falling apart,
dirt everywhere, infrastructure crumbling, extremely expensive.
Everything's very expensive.
Tax is really high.
Are you seeing the same kind of problems or is the Netherlands sheltered from all of that?
Not from all of that.
I think if I look at the streets, the cleanliness, I think that's pretty OK
as far as I'm concerned.
Migration.
Yeah, personally, I don't have problems, but I know that there are problems in the news.
There are a lot of it's also a hard item, of course, in politics.
That's why Bilbers is campaigning for it.
He thanks his existence from this problem.
Of course, he doesn't want to solve it.
Because if he solves it, he can go home and nobody, we don't need the whole
party in Bilbers anymore.
So he has an incentive, of course, to only to, like you already said,
to only keep it to blah, blah, blah, sounding that he is against it.
But in the back, he has an agenda that he wants it.
That is a big problem and that was not shielded from that.
We get the immigrants from the whole of Europe.
That's this, I don't know anymore.
But it's called some treaty.
If you arrive in a country, then you stay there and you don't go to the next
and to the next and to the next.
These immigrants, they just see the city counters as a shopping list and see
where it's more interesting, most interesting for them.
They go there, not shielded from immigration, shielded from dirt.
I think sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised in the city where I live.
And there was a big, for example, a big festival like Queens Day or something.
And then during the day, you see so much dirt
and all stuff thrown around and they clean it up at night.
The next morning and nine o'clock in the morning, it's all cleaned up.
They clean it up from five in the morning to nine.
That's so pretty good in Netherlands.
But the price, the price, the inflation is, of course, rampant everywhere.
Because that's straightforward, a result of mainly the fear currency,
the printing of the euros.
In this case, we have Netherlands have no control of the currency
because it's a European central bank determining it.
And if you keep printing your euros, which is not backed by gold,
then you get inflation like every fiat currency in the world.
And they have to compete if you don't print, you're stupid.
Basically, you should join the scam of the others.
If you don't do it, you get the Libya kind of thing.
They will bomb you.
Yeah, exactly.
I tried it, I tried his gold's dinner currency,
and that undermines the whole financial system of the whole West.
So I was speaking to the last inflation, nobody escapes it, nobody.
I was speaking to the spokesperson, the last spokesperson for Gaddafi,
Ibrahim Musa, and I'm hoping to get him on the podcast.
And he's told me that was the reason why they went for him.
Because basically the gold backed currency that he was planning,
it was going to destroy the whole financial system.
And they simply, the empire was like, no.
And he said, we got European leaders like Tony Blair coming over and saying,
like, what are you doing? Why are you planning this?
Come on, let's let's work together.
You get happy, we get happier.
You know, they tried that, they tried that.
And and he was like, no, like, you know, I want pan African,
you know, unity, I want I want Africa to be its rightful place in the world
because it's got most of the resources.
It should be a very rich continent and it has never ever broken free of colonialism.
I mean, for the last three, four hundred years, it's just been raped.
And Gaddafi was going to turn things around.
But it meant Africa's rise would mean the West's demise.
And that was not going to be allowed.
So they bombed it.
It's just that simple.
Africa as a whole, it's the fact is this is gold currency, the gold back currency.
And that was the decisive point, I think, not that the whole Africa could get wealthy.
But because they want to eliminate all the signals, which shows the bad thing
about the fiat currency, the fraud, the fraudulous construction of it.
If you have one country which can display the signal in this case, what the gold
is really worth, then the whole system crashes.
So the sort of whole gold markets, the price of the gold is just heavily
manipulated for the reason to suppress the signal to the people
that they are that they are an effortless fiat system where they are
scammed by printing and printing and creating printing is not
we have forced the present reality, but electronically typing in the numbers on a keyboard.
Yeah, I read some some some some quote, Willem Middlecope in the Middlecope book.
He said something like that.
The journalist asked Alan Greenspan at the time in the crisis of 2008.
What did this seven billion came from for to rescue the banks?
And Alan Greenspan apparently said, I never found quotes on the internet.
And this book is what's written.
Well, it's very simple, said Alan Greenspan.
You hit the number of seven on the keyboard
and then you hit, I don't know, is it nine or seven zeros?
And then you hit enter and then you have your seven billion.
That's it. Simple as that.
So so, yeah, that's very hard to grasp for people that that's reality.
And so they have to press the signal of the gold price, silver price.
And they also suppressed the signal of the
the assets.
So what they do is the consumer price inflation to manipulate the numbers down.
And that's also a signal, because you can have gold, which could rise
and expressed in the number of euros or dollars or pounds.
But you can also have a housing price or food price.
There's also as a signal, because it's also these are also tangible.
Assets, but yeah, they they suppress these price rises also because in reality,
they should write the prices, the prices, the consumer price inflation is higher.
People experience it and they are when they do the shopping,
but it's not expressed in the government figures.
So they experience it in reality, but not in the figures.
So that's the two mechanisms.
They suppress this fraudulent system.
Yeah. And in the case of the country,
they are just present by just my physical force.
So basically, exactly.
I mean, I think they have deliberately suppressed gold and silver
despite the money creation.
I know, I don't know, it's something like three thousand dollars or something
per ounce now, gold.
But I mean, I've heard from some people that actually the true value of gold
compared because of the amount of money printing, it should be like twenty
thousand, thirty thousand, forty thousand.
So if you go with it, if you do the
everybody can do this, if you go to the 1980 price of gold and this was pretty high
at that time for that.
And then if you apply from 1980 to 2025, you apply
the the shadow statistics for the inflation, so the real statistics.
There is a website called shadow stats.
I think it's full and one economist there.
He he attempted to to keep track of the real inflation, not the government.
He had the graph with the post curves and you see that the government inflation
is considerably lower than than his inflation numbers.
Because the government changed the rules to calculate the inflation with time
to suppress it. Yes.
So so if you apply that year on year on year and you accumulate the inflation
and you then calculate the new price of the gold of the 1980 and the and the
current euros or dollars, again, you end up in numbers which we just mentioned
that 20,000, 30,000 and not the three.
So the factor of 10 is easily like the 10 20 is easily
should be easily higher than that.
So and that and that ballpark should be so they suppress it.
OK, is there any is there any conversation in the Netherlands about vaccine
injuries and how the pandemic was a fraud?
Do you have inquiries or is everyone mainly just getting on with their life
as if nothing happened?
Well, the the majority of the people, you know, the answer,
the life goes on if nothing happens.
But that's what there is, of course, a minority which still knows what's
going on. It's a very small minority.
There are podcasts like like yours are a few ones and there are groups like
Willem Engel, which has podcasts about it.
But he also has this law cases against the government.
So he thinks it's going on.
And then the thing and this is a Dutch guy.
He's got podcasts, Willem Engel's Dutch guy.
And yeah, send me his details.
Send me his details.
Yeah. Oh, it's amazing that you don't know.
But he's well known in the national international scene.
So OK, so he is worth having in your podcast if you don't have it.
So he can he is such a good knowledge of a lot of things.
And he has fought a lot of cases.
He lost almost I lost I think all of them except one or something.
And about covid, he was in the beginning already from from day one.
He already had his doubts.
And yeah, so yeah.
But as far as inquiry, covid inquiry, they have they will start on it.
They have tried already.
But because of government changes hasn't started yet.
But the whole system there, the covid inquiry organization is rigged.
So there you have this bureaucrats in the government.
They determine which documents and the commission.
So the people who in the end need to do the investigation.
They have to have access to the documents of the government.
But they cannot get access to all the documents they want.
Because that's the term by the bureaucracy of people.
They say you can have this document, but you cannot have that.
And also they have limited time to look at the documents.
And also they are not allowed to ask the questions they want.
And invites the people they want to be questioned.
They have no they so it's just it's completely useless.
So one of the forum for democracy guys,
Gideon Vermeire, he explained it very clearly.
He was on the commission and he stepped out of it.
And he said, this is I'm not allowed to ask my own questions.
I have not allowed to look at the documents I want.
So what's the use?
I will not support this.
I step out.
Yes, simply the case.
Yes, it's just whitewashing.
Yeah, that's right.
And yeah, in the UK, you have the government inquiry.
Result is known now in the meantime, I think.
Can I be honest with you?
The conclusion I understood was the lockdowns.
We should have done them earlier and we could have saved extra lives.
That's what they told.
Yeah, I mean, how do they do that?
The same trick again based on epidemiological modeling.
Our model says that if we locked down two weeks earlier,
that we could have saved 23,000 lives extra.
Yeah, I counterfactualist from the model.
It's complete bullshit.
I mean, honestly, bullshit.
Pascal, I said even before the court inquiry started,
all this inquiry will say is we should have done
locked down faster, quicker, harder, longer.
You know, and it's like it's bullshit.
I mean, and this has had to do the do their science.
So we had the Taviskotts Taviskotts Institute and it's very famous.
It's been here for ages.
It's behind a lot of the propaganda,
brainwashing, indoctrination of people and uses media and TV and radio.
But they've also got a gender clinic and they were trying to push,
you know, these puberty blockers and the kids and there's a scandal.
And they said there wasn't enough evidence and, you know, they stopped it.
Nobody was punished.
Nobody lost their job, you know, what it's like.
They just changed their positions to get promoted.
They rebrand the name of the clinic and then said,
we're going to create a study now in 2026 that proves that gender,
you know, puberty blockers work and now they've recruited over 400 children
who are going to have these fucking drugs that castrate them,
remove their fertility, remove their sexual pleasure, ruin them forever.
And then somebody gave some medical ethics committee approved
at this disgusting study and now it's going to go ahead and already doctors
are now speaking at saying, you know, this will provide the evidence that we need.
Like it hasn't even started yet, but it's already now.
They'll be like, this is a study that will prove that puberty blockers work
and they're safe and they are effective.
And then once the study comes out and is done, that's it.
The science is settled.
You can't you can't do another study to look into this.
Why would you do that?
You know, we've proved it works.
That's it done, settled.
And if you question it, now you're anti science, you're a heretic,
you're a crazy person, you're conspiracy theorist.
I mean, it's just so evil, so evil.
It's I just don't know what to say.
Yeah, but this will not hide the results because if you have 400 people.
There must be people from that they will start.
They will say it's a but they don't get platform.
They don't get platform.
Look at all the people.
Look at all the people who have been injured by the COVID jabs.
Where's the justice?
Yeah, exactly.
Apparently millions of people have been injured.
You're talking about 400 people and they'll be justice and people find out.
Come on.
Millions of people have been injured from COVID and they've all been gas lit.
Yeah, I was a bit too optimistic.
Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's indeed they got away with it.
Yeah, yeah, they both got away with it.
Yeah, I mean, from what you're lies and as long as people don't start thinking
and then investigating, yeah.
So what I get is the fact that basically you've confirmed what I already kind
of knew that today what we're seeing is a global problem.
Global so-called fabricated crises,
global unison and policy and policymakers and global tyranny.
And that's the big difference because in the past there was always some part
of the world that was slightly better than another part,
which is why so many people immigrated to the States.
You know, you had all these Dutch, German, British,
Scottish, Irish people going to America because things were not good back home.
Taxation was high.
There was tyranny at home.
There was religious restrictions.
So, you know what?
People very people traveled and it was very dangerous.
A lot of people died and it's funny.
You know, people don't like these brown and black migrants.
But at one point there was there was millions of white migrants who were
poor and destitute, who traveled across the sea in dodgy, leaky boats to get
to the other side and then brave Native Americans and wildlife and harsh
weather to try and build a better future.
I mean, nothing is new under the sun, except this time there isn't.
I don't think anywhere you can run to.
Everywhere is everywhere is in the same trouble.
Yeah, I think I think that's true.
A lot of people from some people from the Netherlands and also I heard it
from other podcasts or parts of the world.
They go to Paraguay countries like that.
But I think, yeah, Trump, this is very the argument is, yeah,
there's a very small government and
so the bureaucracy is there very low and limited.
So people are relatively free and that's right up till now.
But if Trump sets his senses on Latin America, I mean, a small government can
be corrupted very easily with very little money and just pay a few
millions per politician and it's finished with the country.
And so the people who are fleeing there and going there,
they maybe have the illusion, I think, to I also was also considering going
there at some point moment in time.
But yeah, I think it's useless because
they will not allow any part in this country in the world to to stay like
like the cold case, they don't want a signal or hey, it can be very good
and prosperous somewhere they want to have everything the same and everybody
in the same digital, digital present and no escape possible in the end.
So you can postpone maybe to go to these countries postponing of execution.
I think it's I think it makes no sense.
But you know what, it's OK, it's not going to work.
I'm putting it the only the only solution I see.
And I don't know how to reach it.
Was it important to speak about solutions?
How do you how do you break this global?
There's a global power of all these institutions.
How do you break it?
See, there is only one way how you can break it and keep it that way.
And it is by breaking up and breaking up all the countries into very small countries.
So even the Netherlands, which is a very small country,
you should break it up and 30 car 30 little 30 little regions, all independent.
And then the people can you really have choice and you have also you can move
freely, relatively freely, without much language barriers, culture barrier.
Because if the government of your region doesn't do a good job,
according to your opinion, then it's not that you wait for another political party.
No, you just move to another region.
You say, forget I want to pay tax in the other region because they do the policies
that I am happy about least in the majority of the policies because nobody can do
the exactly what you want for you.
There's always something you disagree with.
But of course, you can limit, you can reduce it to to as low as possible
by moving somewhere and then you can still have your contact to the family.
You have the same language.
You can keep the same job.
Only you have to move and pay taxes in an adjacent or not far away.
So if you can break up the world in
a lot of these regions, then I think it's the problem is solved and it can never return.
Yeah, I never thought everybody keeps it that it keeps keeps small.
And then you get you basically you get the competition of governments.
Everybody wants to keep well.
And that provide the best policy for the for the same for their citizens.
Because if they don't, they move to the other one and they lose their tax money
and they are to become empty, empty, empty, empty region.
And basically then then they are abolished, they abolish themselves.
So that would be how to get there.
I don't know.
But that I think that's the end.
That should be the end game of everything should be this situation.
And then it's very difficult for a globalist to corrupt any
because then you have to not corrupt only one institution like the European Union,
that the blue press there.
But then you have to corrupt each and every individual region.
And that's very much, much more difficult than corrupting one big organization.
And you've got all 27 countries in one go or the United Nations.
And you have the whole 193 or how many countries in one go for a certain policy.
I love it.
So breaking up everything and very small, decentralized and everybody
has its own little democracy and policy.
You can still work together.
You can still have a common
a common defense, for example, or some group of countries.
Let's put together some some some common army or something.
But all the other things, all the other policies, you can just move away.
Without a lot of barriers.
It's a book written as somebody got the name of it, but it would also be
an interesting podcast guest, the guy who wrote a book about the cessation of this subject.
All right, send me the details.
You got a lot of things to send me the details.
That guy, William Engels or whatever his name was, this guy.
Yeah, you know what?
If the if their globalists are aiming for a one world government,
it makes sense that the solution is the opposite to the one world government.
You should have
thousands of decentralized city kind of states, you know, city states.
I mean, I don't like governments.
I'm an anarchist, but, you know, that's fine.
Just, yeah, it should be the more a marketplace of places where you can go and be, you know, live.
But listen, final question of the day, Pascal, you're on your deathbed.
You're surrounded by your loved ones.
Before you pass on and meet your maker, what words of wisdom and advice
would you give everybody?
Yeah, I heard that question many times on your podcast and I heard many answers.
And I was just thinking what I'm going to answer.
And then a thought came to me and I think I thought the following.
There is no silver bullet here.
I don't think I don't believe in silver bullets.
So I don't think and yeah, you should be a courageous or ask everything doubt
everything and these kind of old, all these are all good things.
But that you cannot just name one.
So what I came up with the following, I would say, keep using your common sense.
And because common sense, you have to work with material.
Read as much as possible on different angles.
And so provide your brain with material to work with.
And then if you do that, you spend that then then I think it will be OK
on every subject which you put your mind to that will be mine.
I love it.
I love it. All right.
Well, listen, thank you so much, Pascal, from the Netherlands.
Thanks for listening to my show and supporting it.
And yeah, you're right.
There's no magic bullet.
There's no silver bullet.
We just have to keep plugging away.
Yeah, by the way, I recently saw one of your podcast.
I will not say which one, but I was amazed about your capability to stay calm
when the person tells his story.
And then I think this is completely balanced.
This is shit. This is nothing.
And then you let the person talk and then you say, can I be the devil's
advocate? And then you ask your question.
And then the person answers with very creative solution.
And then you still keep your calm.
I think you don't believe the creative solution.
I didn't believe it, but that was that was I said, I could not do that.
I couldn't. I couldn't.
But you are able to do that.
And that's very good, very good quality of you.
I don't know how you get it if it's by nature or that you.
But that's also the only way to get really in the mind of the person
to let them do their story from start to finish and don't put a negative
atmosphere on the talk by expressing that you don't believe it.
And that's very good of you that you don't do that, that you don't show it.
And that you don't believe it.
At least I think you know what I mean, which podcast I think.
Yeah, you don't believe it.
But you cannot see it from you.
But the fact that you have your devil's advocate questions tells me.
But by the way, it was also thinking
but you could ask another second devil's advocate question about so
that the person comes up with the creative solution and I was taken.
OK, that's that's that's creative.
It sounds very plausible.
But then I would I think what would be the next question to ask the person.
And then I was thinking about it and I'm thinking the next question would be.
But then you have to think about it because you are better in this.
The next question I would ask something like,
suppose the thing you just the explanation you just gave me,
suppose that explanation that's an hypothesis you make, that you are,
that it is not true, which your story then still can hold up.
Or is it does it hang on this one explanation then?
That's a good point.
But that that that because yeah, but yeah, I don't know that you have to do
it very carefully to maybe also at the end to not destroy the because you
really want to get in the mind of the person.
And because it's interesting to know the psychology of the person.
And that's what we learn a lot.
We learn a lot from people who have different views from us,
but we have to give them the chance to tell it really extensively to us.
And you are very good in getting it out.
So even even the podcast, as I say, OK, I don't believe it.
It still was interesting to me to
yeah, the way you do and to do to the end of you and also the person,
how creative they are in fighting a hypothesis and then
workarounds and how to explain the facts.
Yeah. So thank you for that.
No, no, thanks for that feedback.
So yeah, I think I know which episode you're talking about.
Can I mention which episode it is, which guest?
Yeah, I don't know if you if you wanted because I don't think it's nice to the.
OK.
To the woman, the woman.
So maybe that limits all the possibilities.
OK, so basically this may be not nice
because also for future podcasts, you don't want to, I don't know,
to give them the impression that you have to present a story and be able.
The thing is, I think I go into it and thinking that this is genuinely
what someone believes and I don't think that they have an agenda and they're
deliberately lying.
And so I want to understand why is it they think like that?
And I want to break it down and understand and give them the space where they
feel comfortable that I'm not just judging them and criticising them.
I'm like, you know, oh, wow, that's interesting.
And I and just because I'm interested,
doesn't mean I agree with them and I can do that.
And the other thing I think I don't think I get triggered very easily.
I think I'm in a much better place in my life now where
I don't get emotionally upset or anger.
I think if you do, you have to ask yourself, why?
Why are you getting triggered?
What is that doing to you and your biases and your inner traumas?
You should be able to hear something
uncomfortable or something that you don't agree with.
It's like just, you know, like stoicism, you know, just objective
standing back and going, oh, that's interesting.
Like when you start getting emotionally upset about things and a lot
of people get upset about things, you have to ask yourself, why are you
letting it get get you, you know, something not right there?
So I think if you're if you're genuinely trying to get an understanding
and get to the truth, you come to it with more of a curiosity mindset
rather than, no, this is what I think you need to think the way I
think blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, or you said something that's really wrong
and I'm upset now. I don't do that.
I'm just like, oh, that's interesting.
It's fascinating.
Yeah, it's that mindset.
Yeah, if you can have that, I can perfectly understand you are able to do that.
But it's for me, if I hear something wrong, then it's very difficult for me
to not if somebody says one plus one is free.
Then OK, you can you can have becomes a challenge to have your mindset.
You succeed in it.
But that that yeah, that that yeah, that's something I have to work on.
But if somebody says one plus one or three, then I have to have the urge
to educate them to say, yeah, but it's not strong because this isn't this.
And then it's it's even yeah, but it's better indeed.
You learn more from yourself by asking about how do you get to
to this to this result because that's
because that's even more interesting indeed.
You have it. Yeah, you have it.
Yeah, you have it. You are the you are the perfect podcaster.
Thanks, man.
There's not many like you around.
Yeah, that's a compliment to you.
Thanks. It's probably a good thing that there's not that many of me around.
It'd be a scary place in the world if there was too many of me.
I think one is enough.
Yeah, that's for in one way.
It's true.
Thanks. Yeah.
Thanks, Pascal.
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