We interrupt our ongoing studies and authoritarian sociopathy to bring you tonight's guest.
You know him from what on earth is happening.
He's a kick-ass, long-form content creator, not only in the podcast world, but also those
PowerPoint presentations for which he's so well known.
I welcome back to Grand Theft World, Mark Pasio.
Mark, how are you doing tonight?
I'm doing pretty well, Richard.
Thank you for having me on.
Well, thank you for staying up late for us.
Sure.
There was there was some talk about the tonight's title is something that you have
some knowledge in the apotheosis of Charlie Kirk, the turning into a godlike
figure and attributing things that maybe never even happened in that individual's
lifetime, but it's going to be known in the future.
He's going to be on the money and all this good stuff.
But also the authoritarian sociopathy that we were just seeing like the United
Nations in general, and then her talk in specifics saying, you know, tensions are
high and it just says that to me, mo money, mo problems.
It doesn't seem like she's had a lot of benefits.
Like the average person probably has a better lifestyle and peace of mind than
those celebrity kids that are popping up these days.
But do you keep abreast with any of the ongoing current events or you just
down deep on research and making presentations?
A little bit.
I mean, I generally I don't really get into politics and political
conspiracy theory much.
A lot of people think that that's what I do, but it is has very, very little
to do with my work.
I really talk about occult psychology.
I talk about the ability of what amounts to a cabal of ancient
psychologists that have held deep psychological knowledge for countless
generations and what they are able to do to the human mind and to twist
it into complete ridiculous areas of belief.
So I don't make I don't spend my time
analyzing endless vistas of politics and political theater.
So, you know, I commented on a recent interview that I think it's a tragic
thing. What happened to Charlie Kirk?
No one should be executed summarily for speaking his mind.
I think this has dangerous precedents regarding freedom of speech.
But I don't really come down on either side of the political aisle
in the left right paradigm because I'm a radical anarchist and not from
a left wing perspective, as many people believe, anarchy actually is
simply meaning I believe in nonviolence and a voluntary society,
which is the opposite of authoritarianism.
And the concept of authority is the main problem still to this day.
People believing in this ridiculous, nonsensical, violent religion.
And regardless of what side of the political aisle they they polarized to,
they still believe in this insane religion called some people get to command
other people and tell them what they can and cannot do,
even if they're not harming anybody else.
So that is a claim of ownership.
And this is what my work is to do.
My work is to explain to people you believe in nonsense.
And that's not always the easiest thing to do, because as soon as you tell
some somebody you're a member of a cult, they want to turn on you.
They want to attack the messenger.
They don't want to actually examine their own belief systems,
their own mindset, their own psychology.
No, no, no, I want to just go a hundred
miles an hour in the opposite direction from examination of myself.
And I want to go and attack somebody who's telling me it's probably
a good idea to examine what you actually believe and who implanted
that belief system inside of your mind.
That's what my work is to do.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
I I utterly like if anybody ever calls me that, I utterly resent the term
and it wouldn't really go well if someone called me that in person
because I lived an experience whereby I was actually in the presence
of these social engineers and they are psychopaths, they are lunatics.
They are absolute vile people.
Mentally and they they are just absolutely laughing at the dichotomy
and the total polarization that they've created through dialectics
in the human population.
They're just pissing their pants, laughing at everybody.
And this is what I've been trying to explain to people.
You think the real controllers of the world care,
whether you're having an argument of the ballistics of the event
or if you're arguing that it was a hologram or if you're arguing
that he's been taken off to some secure location and he was never shot.
It's like I don't get into these ridiculous theories and debate them.
How about asking, what are you doing to morally better yourself?
How about asking, what are you doing to help morally better other people?
How are you explaining to people the actual objective difference
between right behavior and wrong behavior?
Are you involved in that educational outreach effort
or are you sitting trying to have debates with people over,
you know, the howl of some event that we're probably never going to have
enough information to analyze, let alone understand exactly what happened.
This is not the point.
The point is they're creating a dichotomy and a polarization
between two sides to get them to war with each other.
If you can't understand the psychological dynamics and implications of that,
you're not really an adult human being in the year twenty twenty five
and understand this is what all authoritarian figures want to do
because that weakens the people that they enslave and sends power up
the chain of obedience right to them through their order followers
that they were going to command and say, oh, we got to do something
to manage all the the resultant chaos.
People are psychologically sophisticated enough to understand these people,
these people's operations and modus operandi
because they haven't worked enough upon themselves to gather enough information
about the psychological tactics.
That's what I explain to people.
I explain methodologies of psychological mind control.
I explain how all religion is polarization.
All religion is teaching people not to be able to truly think.
It's teaching them simply to believe in something that is told to them.
And that goes for the whole concept of politics,
the whole concept of authority, the whole concept of government.
Anybody that comes down on any of the sides of any of that
is just completely psychologically weak, and they've been completely
laid by the rulers of the world, by the actual social engineers
that are Satanists, that are dark Luciferians,
that are absolutely evil psychopaths, and they're laughing at everybody.
They're absolutely pinging their pants, laughing at how easy it is
to manipulate their slaves.
And I think the the political violence is the eventual admission
of their intellectual bankruptcy.
But by that time, it's setting precedent for other people to take ill action.
And I really want to focus in on what you're talking about
in the divide and conquer psychology that the rulers have always used.
Like they even had like Latin phrases, like it goes back
in the ancient China and the emperors there.
Learning in order to conquer, they must first be divided.
And there's been a lot of history of how they do that.
And we can see like real time right now, they are getting people to
they're getting rid of neutral people that would sit down and ask a question
and have a conversation about it.
And you're left with the extremes who are willing to take violence on both sides.
Right. You got the formation recently of what is it, the John Brown Gun Club.
And, you know, there's there are sparks being thrown all over
dry, dry pine needles.
And it's like they're trying to make a fire.
How do we tamp it down and get people to put some space
between their stimulus and reaction and get some thoughtful responses out?
Well, to go to the one of the points that you first made there,
I don't recall the Latin off the top of my head, but it's a phrase
that was used in the ancient Latin world.
And it goes something to the effect of let he who would be deceived
be deceived.
And what that means is if you're stupid enough to fall for a scam,
you deserve to be scammed.
And this is what the psychological rulers of our planet.
This has always been their mindset.
If we can pull the wool over your eyes and you're stupid enough to fall for it,
then you don't really deserve any respect or or common decency
shown to you because you're a stupid person.
And that's essentially how they see us.
They see us as dumb cattle to be completely
scammed and gamed and ruled just like a farmer would rule over
a farm and all the animals on it.
And this is the whole point is what I'm trying to explain to people
is if you're not bettering yourself,
see, there's there's four essential or primary destroyers of consciousness.
And this goes back to my earliest work
when I first came out publicly almost two decades ago
and started speaking on this after I left the cult, you know,
after after I actually left the the social engineering cult
is actually running this whole farm called Earth
and and developed a conscience or at least my conscience
broke away from the limitations that it was under.
And I finally said, no, I can't do this anymore.
And I'm going to become a whistleblower.
You know, if people want to apply a term to me and what I do,
don't apply the term conspiracy theorist.
I don't deal in theories.
I'm a whistleblower. That's what I am.
I was in the cult and now I'm whistleblowing about what the cult does.
And they told me back then, 20 something odd years ago,
you'll be banging your head against a concrete wall
for the rest of your natural life until the day you die.
And so far, that statement to me has not been proven untrue.
That's basically what I've been doing with very little progress,
with very little success, because I found it to be true
what they were saying about people.
People don't want to work on themselves.
They don't want to see their own limitations.
They don't want to see the ways that their consciousness is limited.
They don't want to see their own inadequacies.
They want to attack anybody that has defeated those limitations
and adequacies inside themselves that because they're jealous
of that state, they look at themselves and they hate themselves.
They're self loathing people because they've allowed the destroyers
of consciousness to overtake them and the four primary destroyers
of consciousness as is taught in just about every ancient occult
tradition and any mystery tradition on this planet.
The four things that absolutely degrade and destroy us
internally are ignorance, apathy, cowardice and laziness.
Those are the four primary annihilators of human consciousness.
And this is what the human population does not want to turn inwardly
and work on to defeat.
They want to stay ignorant because it's very easy to conjecture
about a million theories and postulate all kinds of nonsense and garbage.
It's easy to do that.
That doesn't take any actual knowledge.
That's like just dream something up and float it out there
and see what sticks to the wall.
You know, that's what theorizing is, especially when it comes
to political theater and political drama, you know, to actually try to work
on yourself and gain true self knowledge.
That's hard work, you know, to defeat apathy within oneself
such that you're not a blackpilled complete.
I've given up and just let evil take the world
because there's nothing we can do about it.
That takes work to work on true care to actually care about human rights
and human freedom and to care about suffering that is going on in the world
due to actual injustice and actual authoritarian slavery, which we are under.
That takes hard work to work on your heart based intelligence
to defeat cowardice and inaction and laziness inside of you
such that you learn how to communicate, you learn how to publish,
you learn how to put knowledge out into the world, you learn technology,
you you learn how to act in an effective capacity,
you learn how to actually truly morally educate your fellow man and woman.
That takes hard work and determination and a never say die attitude.
That takes willpower.
That takes getting up off of someone's lazy ass
and actually doing right action in the world.
That takes defeating the cowardice of not wanting to speak out
and putting a target on yourself.
That takes getting out of laziness and inaction and just wanting creature,
comfort and pleasure for yourself.
That's all extremely difficult work to do internally.
That's what wins the war for freedom,
not endless speculation and conspiracy theorizing.
It's inward work to build a better human being first in the self
and then to assist others to engage in that same process.
How many people are really engaged in that?
It's such a tiny few.
It's absolutely laughable is my answer to that question.
That's why we're not making any headway and we're not making any progress.
That's why we're losing the war for freedom,
because people aren't engaging in moral education.
All they want to do is spout their opinion endlessly
instead of actually turning inward, looking at the limitations
and inadequacies in the self and healing those things,
turning inward and healing past trauma
so that you're just not somebody that just wants to blurt out everything about.
Oh, I'll say the first thing that comes to my mind
because I want to be heard and I want to be recognized.
You know, this is not about that.
This is about building a world that is based in freedom
because we're bettering the humans that comprise the world.
There's a law in the universe.
Natural law, however you want to break it down,
ultimately is saying one thing to the people of the universe,
to anywhere you live in the 3D universe.
And here it is, ladies and gentlemen,
freedom is reserved for good people.
In order to be free, you must be good.
And that means do you understand true morality
and what are you doing to spread true morality?
That's the questions that need to be asked inwardly of ourselves.
And my question to everybody out in the listening audience
is and viewing audiences, how many people are actually engaged in that work
instead of endlessly speculating, analyzing politics, conspiracy theorizing,
you know, you're you're describing the patterns
on the furniture of a sinking ship.
That's what people in the freedom movement are doing these days.
That ain't going to get you anywhere.
It ain't going to get you to safety.
It certainly ain't going to get you to salvation.
And it just seems like no matter where I look in just about any media,
people are not talking about these dynamics.
They want to endlessly analyze, analyze, analyze, analyze political theater.
That's not getting us anywhere.
That's the analysis of patterns on furniture on a sinking ship.
You got to turn inward.
You got to do inner work.
You got to build a better human being inwardly first.
And you got to help other people become more moral and build a better
being of themselves.
If you're not, if we're not engaged in that work, don't expect freedom.
Freedom doesn't arrive or come to a people who don't do that type of work.
And humanity right now is not that kind of species.
We are not doing that as a whole in the aggregate.
And that's why we don't have freedom.
And that's why we're not going to get freedom in the long run.
And that's not blackpilled.
I am not a blackpilled individual.
I believe I know I don't believe I definitively know that freedom, true
freedom is possible, but it carries requirements just like you want to you
want to build or you want to bake the best cake imaginable.
You know, a cake my grandfather used to make that was unbelievable
that he did was a pineapple upside down cake.
You want to best bake one of the best pineapple upside down cakes.
You know what it has requirements.
There are step stepwise procedures.
There are ingredients you get high quality ingredients.
You follow the stepwise procedures.
Now you've met the requirements.
You bake it properly.
You take it out at the right time.
It's going to come out wonderful and taste great.
There's requirements for that.
Well, guess what?
There's requirements for achieving a state of human freedom as well.
And if you don't know what the requirements are and if you don't
meet the requirements, it doesn't just magically manifest because you want it to.
That's that's the that's just the the raw realist perspective.
I'm not a negativist.
I'm not a positivist.
I'm not somebody who sees the world through rose colored glasses
and I'm not a blackpilled pessimist either.
I'm a realist and I look at the actual dynamics
and the actual requirements to meet a stated objective.
And if we're not meeting those requirements, it doesn't just
magically manifest a hand from above just doesn't come down and say,
here, let me give you what you want just because you had good intentions.
That's not how reality and the laws of nature work, unfortunately.
I got a theory open that you could like I just want to hear your thoughts on this.
So my nice to meet you, Mark, my name is Scott.
So anyway, so I have this theory that like the government will move in
and capitalize and like fills the vacuum of a low morality community.
So and what I mean by that is like, for example, when you have a high trust,
high morality community, like some like rural places around here, you know,
it's like everybody knows each other.
Everybody watches out for each other.
Generally, they have shared principles and values and they have like one
sheriff that sits at the coffee shops and like old, old timer.
And he's like, hey, Fred, how you doing?
You know, that's the government.
They maybe they have a stoplight in the town and that's the amount
of government they have.
They have a stoplight and like some old sheriff in the town.
But then when you have a community where there's no common culture,
no singular shared morality, and it's just bereft of any morality
and it's just high crime everywhere, the government is in your face everywhere.
So to me, that tells me that kind of what you're saying.
It starts with the individual building the skills and becoming
antifragile and just eliminating cowardice, ignorance in your own life
and then spreading out where to build a high trust communities
and then scaling that.
And I'm curious if that's kind of along the lines of what you were talking about.
I would 100 percent concur and agree that that is ultimately what we need to do.
It starts from the ground up.
It's not something that we need to look to leaders to do.
It's something that individuals have to perform upon themselves.
And you know where that really ultimately starts?
It starts with good parenting.
It starts with good conscious parenting.
It starts with people who are going to bring children into the world.
Looking into what is the actual difference between right and wrong behavior.
Be an example of that for yourself in yourself and then pass that along to your
children and instill those actual moral values in your your progeny.
And this is the problem.
Our culture is not doing that.
Worldwide culture is not doing that because we are trying to leave it
up to the institutions to raise our children to the educational system,
to the media, to the government.
And all of those things are not designed to morally raise individuals.
That this is the ultimate solution.
The ultimate solution is true moral education.
And if you're going to do that, then you have to make it a primary goal
to truly understand the difference between real, right and wrong.
Not religious morality.
See, this is one of the first things I have to delineate and I have to explain
because when people hear me even say the word morality, they're so mind
controlled and conditioned and immediately associating that with religion
that I have to explain to them absolutely incorrect.
I am not talking about any religion because I know that the religious
traditions, no matter what they are, doesn't matter what organized
religion are actually created and designed to steer people away
from true objective morality.
This is what the controllers of this planet set up as a system of confusion
and deceit to get people not to understand what objective morality is.
And so their behavior can never really come into true compliance
with objective morality.
That's what the controllers want.
They want a million different competing systems.
This is a system of dialectics.
OK, it's basically setting up a complete system of moral confusion.
That is what all religion is.
And it doesn't matter, again, when I say the word religion,
I'm not just talking about traditional cultural religions
like Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, etc.,
although they are contained within that phrase.
It also means all wrong systems of thinking,
all wrong systems of thought that are absolutely morally incorrect and untrue.
The love of money and comfort is a religion.
The the worship of authority is a religion.
The belief in authority is a religion.
The belief that government has any moral,
you know, moral legitimacy itself is a religion.
Anything that you put 100 percent faith into and you believe axiomatically
without actual logic and proof constitutes a religion.
So I don't say the phrase or the term religion just meaning traditional,
regional, you know, cultural religious beliefs like the major world religions.
I mean it as any state of consciousness and any any belief system,
I should say that tries to put your consciousness into a state of limitation and confusion.
And that is what all religious morality is.
It's they all claim different things are moral and different things are immoral.
So how could any of them be true?
They're all conflicting belief systems regarding what objective morality is.
And it's all nonsense.
All of it comes down to this is just what people made up.
You can definitively recognize what true objective morality is.
If you actually understand natural law and what right.
What are rights because they are behaviors that do not initiate harm upon others.
And what behaviors are wrong doing is or transgressions against natural law rights
because they actually do initiate harm upon other people,
measurable, demonstrable harm, the diminishing of a being in some capacity,
not hurting someone's feelings, but actually taking something from them,
diminishing the person in some respect, whether it has to do with life,
rights or property in some form and all the wrong doings that can be
listed under natural law are in one form or another, a form of theft,
a form of taking something that doesn't belong to you to take from another.
So again, you could look at religious systems of morality,
which are there to sow the seeds of confusion and to lead people away
from objective morality.
And you look at something like the Seven Deadly Sins of the Catholic
belief system, let's look at I always bring this up as an example.
They say that the sins, the biggest sins that you could commit
in this religion are pride, gluttony, sloth, lust, anger, jealousy and greed.
And none of these are a behavior.
Everything I just said there is not a behavior.
They're either internal states of emotion or they are states of
engaging in something too much.
They are they are a form of indulgence, self-indulgence.
So not one of those seven things, pride, gluttony, sloth,
lust, anger, jealousy and greed is a behavior that is actually done
to another individual, another being, not to the self,
to another being, because that's what moral harm, immoral behavior,
harm against another being is the initiation of violence upon them
or theft upon their being or their property in some form.
So look at the actual real transgressions against natural law.
The real immoral behaviors, which is what we should be teaching
everybody and teaching our children.
These are the behaviors we should not ever engage in.
No matter what we're offered, no matter how much we're paid,
no matter how big of a paycheck, no matter what we're promised,
that you don't do these behaviors, murder, assault, rape,
theft, trespass, coercion and deception, all forms of theft.
So and all direct behaviors that you do against another being upon
another being, murder the theft of life without right, not
killing in self-defense, murder is the theft of life without
the right to do so, assault, theft of bodily well-being,
an individual's property, health in their body, rape, theft
of freedom to sexually associate with whom you will.
That's coercion.
That's violence.
That's the theft of sexual association through someone's free will.
Theft of stealing physical property, trespass,
taking someone's security in their living space or in their property.
Coercion, taking someone's free will without right.
That's what all government is.
It's coercion and duress.
It's the theft of someone else's free will through the belief
that some people are authorities that get to command and other
people are slaves that have to obey.
That's coercion.
That's the destruction of free will, the greatest gift of the
universe and deception.
You're stealing someone's ability to make an informed choice
through accurate information by willfully sowing disinformation
and lies.
And you know, that's what the deceivers do.
That's what the media does.
That's what the social engineers do to throw us off
course and not get us to understand the actual keys.
The human freedom, it all comes down to one law as morality
increases, freedom increases as morality declines, freedom
declines, freedom and morality are directly proportional in any
given society in the aggregate.
That's it.
That's what natural law is.
And until humanity understands that and spreads that knowledge,
expect slavery.
Nothing else can result under universal natural law.
It's an impossibility to achieve freedom.
In that state of ignorance of more of true morality, I've
laid it out there in the quickest nutshell that I can for
people, if people want to ignore that, they ignore it at
their own peril and at their own slavery, because that's
what's going to result.
And it already has resulted.
It's just going to continue to get worse and worse and
worse and worse and worse until we get out of the whole
political drama, political theater drama and start talking
about actual objective morality and teaching that to our
young and spreading that to as many people within the sound
of our voice.
The only message that I have for humanity is expect more
slavery.
That's what's coming.
You did a wonderful job of being like the brevity and
succinctness.
You know, over the years, you're able to condense it
down and not lose the power of the meaning.
But if I want to play it back, it's like the way you
just explained it is it's so simple.
And it's almost as if they make the law artificially
complex so that people can't understand it or follow it.
And then, you know, the way you explain it, there would
be no market for lawyers.
Nope.
They're right.
So there's that part.
And then the next part is government schooling is the
religion of government.
That's where people are learning all the morals and
dogma of that system that it's okay to pay, you know,
I vote, I pay some taxes, they send some bombs, they
kill some people who had nothing to do with anything.
For the most part, that's gone on in the 21st century.
So now from that resulting like corruption of schooling
and like the corruption of education to indoctrinate
people into this belief system, then they become
apathetic, ignorant, like your whole list, right?
And then it jumps over to them and their behavior.
Now they can superficially judge things from a
far with their superpowers of ignorance.
They never need to get in and actually try hard or develop
themselves or practice to achieve competence and
proficiency because they could just know from looking at
this, you know, here's a snapshot of someone doing
something, they're like, oh, they can judge it from a
far.
So like there's and there's rewards for those
epitomies of ignorance that tie back to like your
comments on social media and current events.
You know, there's a lot of people that don't even
know how to think.
And then they're just like, imagine this and there's
other people who don't know how to dismiss
that as arbitrary and move on and they all get
caught up.
And then there's people like us who are like seeing
that whole traffic jam as we're moving on the
country roads, making progress every day.
So going back to your not Blackpill perspective,
but like too few people have learned these
teachings, right?
Yes, look at it like exponential function.
So at the beginning, it looks like there's
nothing going on.
But at some point, there's going to be a
critical mass because people were noticing all
sorts of stuff all over the place these days,
especially since COVID.
A lot of people just they woke up for no reason.
They don't even know why they're redpilled,
but they're just skeptical.
Whereas in the past, it was like the Cassandra
complex of like, you're knowing the future and
no one believes it and you can't really do much
about it.
And you don't want to go join the bad guys
who profit from it.
Ah, it's like the then you get that Ben Affleck
meme look where you're like, ah, right?
But the civil war that they're trying to
drum up, you know, the psychological
pressures and triggers that they're waging
on both sides to make them think that they're
right and they have the right to go commit
violence on the other side, which is the
epitome of not freedom.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah.
How many people can easily be whipped into a
political frenzy and furor because they've
identified with political belief systems.
See, all government is there to do is
demoralize people.
It's there to make you an obedient slave.
That's it.
That's all it wants.
It wants compliance and obedience and it wants
demoralization and literally demoralization
means making you a less moral person.
It's not just about morale as far as how
you feel, whether you feel good or not.
It's the demoralization as far as your
morals are concerned because it wants you
to accept something that it's completely
on its face immoral, which is the claim
of ownership.
That's slavery.
See, authority is the claim that you own
another being and anybody that says that
that's not true is just completely
absolutely incorrect.
If I have an authority over another
being, that means they don't have free
will that their behavior must comply
with my will.
So their will is completely owned and
controlled by me if I'm claiming
authority over them.
Any entity that claims authority over
another being is claiming ownership
over another being because they're saying
I'm in control of your free will
and your behavior.
How can anybody claim that government
is in slavery?
There are people.
See, it rewards the incompetent.
It rewards the stupid.
It rewards the lazy and it punishes
people who are actually contributing
something and building anything and
creating anything because it says
all of the fruits of your labor or
not all of them, but the percentage
of the fruits of your labor that we
say we are going to confiscate
and take for our use.
You have to turn over to us.
You have to comply with that command
and turn that over to us.
There are people who are actually
productive human beings making
enough that the government says I'm
going to come in and take half
or over half of what you
have produced and created.
If that's not the definition of
slavery, then I don't know what
is. You see, the question that
people have to ask is if 100
percent of the confiscation of the
fruit of your labor constitutes
slavery, what number can the
confiscation of labor percentage
wise be lowered to that no longer
constitutes that behavior as
slavery? And if you're being
honest with yourself, if you're
not a liar, if you're
not an immoral liar, then
you would realize there's no such
thing as a percentage that taxation
can be lowered to to become
moral magically.
That's only done in the
gymnastics of a sick brain.
That's the only place that that
could be done and say, yeah, we
can lower it to this amount and
then it's moral. No, you can't.
You're just lying to yourself.
See, this is the kind of stuff
that I explained to people.
This is what you have to do.
You have to look at yourself in
a mirror and you have to
commit to not lying to
yourself like an immoral piece
of trash does because that's
what immoral trash does.
They just keep lying to
themselves. They keep lying
to everybody else.
They scam other people and they
even scam themselves because
they're actually not even
telling themselves the truth
because they're self loathing.
This is what all government
does. Government is a religion.
The belief in authority is a
religion. Politics is a religion.
The worship of money is a
religion. The word see, this
is the thing is everybody's
identified.
They're identified with a
system, with a belief system,
with an institution.
That's what religion is.
Identification with the
non-natural, with constructs
that only exist in a diseased
mind. That's what all religion
is. And people will just
cling to it like a maggot to
dead flesh because they
don't know anything else
and they're too cowardly to
step away and out into the
wilderness of thinking for
oneself. That's what it all
comes down to. This is what I
teach. This is why I
deplore the label conspiracy
theorist. Just everybody out
there don't ever apply that
label to me.
Apply it to go apply it to
some sacks of garbage that
want to engage in conspiracy
theorizing. I am a moral
teacher of humanity, a
teacher of morality to the
completely degraded species
called human beings, trying
to rebuild them into moral
individuals. That's what I do.
I don't conspiracy theorize.
Okay. So and again, I'm a
whistleblower for the
satanic elite because I was
involved with them in my youth.
I got involved. They wanted
to groom me to make me one of
their social engineers at
some point. I saw what they
were doing to enslave and I
said no, I'm out.
And people say, oh, you can't
leave once you get involved.
You don't know what you're
talking about. You've never
been in that position and I
have. And I'm telling you, it
doesn't just work like a
mafia, even though it is a
form of a mafia. But unless
you know where the bodies
are buried, they'll let you
walk right out the door and
say, don't let it hit you on
the ass on the way out,
boy. And if you haven't been
in that position, then don't
tell me what my life
experience was. This is my
problem with people. You
know, I'm telling people what
real Satanism is because I was
a priest within that religion
in my youth. And I'm
explaining to them what the
actual tenets and ideologies of
Satanism actually are because
I was largely in this
religion in my past and came
out of it because I had a
profound spiritual and moral
awakening. And yes, that is
possible. And no, you shouldn't
just distrust somebody. You
should actually listen to
what they're saying. You
shouldn't just blindly trust
them, but you shouldn't just
immediately say that
disqualifies you from ever
being able to speak truth.
This is an imbecile mind is
how who thinks like that.
It's a child who thinks
unit dimensionally. You know,
it's somebody who's not even
playing checkers, let alone
playing chess and understanding
strategies that are involved
in the global chessboard.
These are these are little
children who think in
religious terms. Oh, this
good, this bad. You were
once this you can never
change. And you know what it
shows? It shows how much
they have. It shows how much
self loathing they have deep
in their own black hearts,
because they know they're not
capable of changing because
they're cowards and their
weaklings and they're
ignorant and they haven't
studied and they haven't
taken enough information into
themselves and they don't
know what real morality is.
Essentially, it's trash
looking inside themselves and
saying, I know I can't change.
So nobody's capable of
changing. Well, that's where
you're wrong. All the black
killed blackhearted souls out
there who just want to say,
no, nobody's capable of
changing. You have no idea
what you're talking about.
Keep it to yourself because
that's who you're applying
that belief system to
people, bad people who I
was once a bad person
are capable with hard
work and determination
and iron willpower
are capable of transcending
evil and becoming a good
person. And that's what I did
through unimaginably hard
work and hard one knowledge,
not belief systems, not
religion, knowledge, knowledge
about what was going on inside
myself and my psychology and
knowledge of what the global
controllers are actually doing
to people because I was
actually involved with them
from in a first hand,
real life capacity.
So when people tell me that's
ridiculous, that's nonsense.
How you're you're explaining
Satanism doesn't doesn't
jive with what my pastor
told me. You have no idea
what you're talking about.
You have no first hand
experience. And don't tell
me the experience that I
lived in my life.
That's where we're going to
butt heads big time.
And this is what I just
I make no bones about it.
Yeah, you know, I'm telling you
I came from the other team.
I have the playbook of the other
team and I'm practically
throwing it in people's lap
and they want to smack it
right out of your hand.
They're not interested
because they hate themselves.
That's what it ultimately comes
down to. They haven't dealt
with past trauma.
They haven't done any true
spiritual work upon
themselves. And they think
suddenly you're going to
manifest the external change.
You're going to sit in a
slave chamber and rot
is what you're going to do
because you haven't done any of
the internal work that needs to
be done. And if you hear
the anger in my voice,
if you hear the frustration
in my voice, you should
realize that's the proper
emotional response because
there are good people in this
world and they're being
enslaved by the idiots of it.
They're being enslaved by the
people that don't want to look
inward and don't want to
change themselves and don't want to
help others to change.
All they want to do is spew
nonsense because they want
attention.
I'm not talking about any of
that stuff. I'm talking about
the real hard spiritual
work that goes on inside of an
individual and a
pissant amount of humanity is
doing any part of that work.
What do we do?
Traumatic growth.
What do we do with all the
immoral scum
criminals that aren't willing
to change? I have no interest
in changing. Can we just
deploy the National Guard to
the city to take care of?
I don't believe that's a
responsibility of any government
agency because I don't believe
government should exist at all.
It's the responsibility of the
people to clean that mess up
because who created it?
The people created it.
They created the mess by
not morally raising their damn
children.
And then you want to cry to an
external entity to come in
and sweep the mess up that we
made. If someone if
someone spills a bunch of
garbage all over my kitchen
floor, I'm going to tell them
to clean it up because they
made the mess.
They're responsible for it.
They should clean it up.
It shouldn't be left to
somebody else to clean up.
This is the situation that we
are in and people believe
the most ridiculous,
nonsensical answers
are the solutions.
Religions never going to teach
you morality. It wasn't
designed to do that.
Governments never going to
create freedom. It wasn't
designed to do that.
You got to understand what
the ostensible purposes
of institutions are and what
the true purposes of
institutions are.
You're not going to learn
that from the media.
You're not going to learn that
from schoolbooks.
You're going to have to go into
very deep workings
of psychology and occultism
to find that work of hidden
knowledge. Knowledge that isn't
reserved for isn't meant
for the average every day, Joe.
It's people who did the deep
psychological work as a labor
of love and then published
it for other people to find
that are truly driven to find
that knowledge. And once again,
if I say the word occult and
it frightens you, you're a child.
You know, it's like all occult
means is hidden knowledge.
That's it. And why would it be
hidden? Because people
at high levels of power don't
want people who are slaves to
learn the knowledge that they
know because they want to keep
leveraging that knowledge as a
power differential.
And the people who believe in
all the nonsense of what the
institutions are designed to do.
You believe the media is
telling you the truth. You
believe the government is
there to protect your rights.
You believe the pharmaceutical
cartels or care about your damn
health. You believe the
educational system cares about
your edification and education.
You're out of your mind.
You're out of your gourd.
You are gone.
You're a gone goose, if that's
what people think and believe.
It's a naive two year old
with diapers
waddling around.
That's literally what it is.
And that's most of humanity.
Let's face it. That's what most
of this species is.
They're naive children who
hate themselves, who want to
believe any of the nonsense
that all the institutions have
told them.
And what I'm trying to do is
explain to people what the real
purposes of these institutions
are. Governments there to strip
you of your rights and make
you an obedient slave.
The pharmaceutical cartels
want you sick.
The medical industry want you
sick so they can keep making
endless profit off your illness.
They're not trying to cure
disease. I worked in a
medical establishment.
I worked in the University of
Pennsylvania's School of
Medicine Research Division in
biomedical research.
I literally heard department
heads because I was ahead of
technology, ahead of certain
groups of technology.
I was the lead technical
specialist who did desktop
support for hematology,
oncology, cardiology, rheumatology,
et cetera, in their in their
research laboratories.
So I have a background in
that as well in technology in,
you know, working inside
the medical field, sharing what
doctors and researchers were
saying. They were openly saying
we don't look for cures.
We're not here to cure anything.
We're looking for treatments that
can be sold to people.
They were just blatantly saying
it out in the open.
These people don't care about
you. Government doesn't care
about you. It's there to
control you. The educational
system is not there to make
you smart. It's there to make
you dumb. So you can't
actually engage in true critical
thinking and logic through the
Trivium. They don't want to
teach you the Trivium method of
grammar, logic and rhetoric of
gathering information in an
eclectic capacity so you can
pour through it over many,
many, many man hours of time
and then come to a logical
understanding through logical
transforms and weeding out
logical inconsistencies so that
you could truly understand what
the data set means and then
act upon it rightly by
disseminating what it actually
means to other people. They
don't want you engaged in
that process. That's why the
Trivium was stripped from the
educational model and people
don't even know this. They don't
know it because they're dumb,
naive children who haven't
grown up, who haven't worked
upon themselves, who have not
worked on their internal
traumas, who have not really
truly gotten rid of their
self loathing. And that's why
they want to stay slaves and
stay in religious thought.
It's it's it's people who
hate themselves who somehow
believe the sick notion that
the universe was created to
torture us. I accept that
there's a career. I know I don't
accept that I know it factually,
you know, the universe is not
some clockwork dead mechanism
of matter. If you believe that,
you know, I got a couple of
bridges in New York City to
sell you. This is all
dynamically intelligently
driven by an absolutely
completely unimaginably
powerful force. And I'm not
here to tell you what that is.
I'm not here to push religion
on somebody. I'm here to tell
you that it structured all of
the order and laws of the
universe. That's what I know it
did. And we're governed by
those laws. We're not exempt
from them behaviorally. They
not only govern the laws of
matter, they govern the laws
of behavior. That's why if
you behave one way you get
enslaved, if you keep
condoning for immorality,
you get enslaved. That's
what humanity has done. We've
behaved immorally, and we've
condoned immoral behavior. You
know what happens to a species
that does that in the aggregate
over thousands of years?
Slavery. That's where we're
at. If you want to get out
of that, you got to change the
behavior because then the
natural law gives you the
opposite result. It's so
simple. It's almost stupid
that this would have to be
explained. And this is what
the actual laws of the
creator are. Not what
nonsensical religion tells
you not to eat meat on this
day or where you can do this
and that, whatever. You
know, one of these kind of
clothes here but not here.
It's just nonsense. And
people can't see it as
nonsense because they're so
indoctrinated into it by
their parents, by their
family, by their teachers, by
their clergy. It's just
dumb people perpetuating
stupidity. Instead of
actually learning what the
laws of the creator actually
are. This is why I'm
angry. This is why I'm
frustrated. I don't enjoy
this. This is not what I
want to do. I want to live
my life in freedom and have
a decent time while I'm in a
fucking body or in my
language. You know, that's
what I want for myself and
that's what I want for
everybody else. It's very
simple. I don't want
self-inflicted suffering
perpetuated constantly in our
species. There's a way to
do that. There's an
answer. There's a way out.
You got to think
differently. You got to
stop believing in total
crap that's been fed to
us and we put it up on a
pedestal like we put our
parents up on a pedestal.
So many people, their
parents have completely
screwed them up, taught
them totally immoral
things. And oh, they're
such good people. I put
them up on a pedestal. I
practically worship them.
It's like, why do people
do that just because
you're biologically related?
You know, and I'm not
knocking the family or the
family system. I think
that has to be strong,
but it's got to be
based in true morality and
truth. You know, the
whole point is how many
people's parents screwed
them up by telling them
things that further
traumatized them that they
told them, oh, this isn't
for you. You're not here to
do great things. You're
here to be mediocre. You're
here to go do manual labor.
You're not that smart. You're
not that talented. Don't
try to aim too high. Parents
teach people to miss the
target all the time to not
even set the bar high and
aim for a worthy pursuit
or cause. And then we want
to say, oh, we should just
put them up on a pedestal
because we're biologically
related to them. This is
nonsense. This is how all
the nonsense gets
perpetuated and the trauma
gets perpetuated. The trauma
cycle gets perpetuated down
to the next generation
after generation after
generation. We got to break
that cycle of abuse and
ignorance and laziness and
cowardice. And that's
carried on by the family
system. Absolutely. It's
carried on by religion is
carry on by educational
system is carried on by
all the institutions, all of
the institutions are
fraudulent, not some of
them, all of them, all of
them. And people have to
stop identifying with
them. They have to stop
their personal ego
identification with those
entities and institutions.
And that's why we're not
freeing ourselves because
people are latched onto
those things. And when
you latch on to what's
incorrect, see, this is
why right and right, right
correct leads to right
morally wrong incorrect
leads to wrong behavior.
That's not an accident that
we use those words for
this for different concepts.
You're right. Well, you're
correct. You did what was
right. You do what was
moral. You're wrong. You're
incorrect. You just did
what was wrong. What was
immoral. There's no
accident that those words
are the same. Because what
is correct leads to what
is morally right. And what
is incorrect leads to what
is morally wrong. This is
why being correct is so
important. This is why learning
how to think is so
important. You can't just
arbitrarily choose things
based on your feelings and
your emotions, you have to be
able to think logically and
know how to go about truth
discovery through the trivia
methodology. And that's why
they've removed it from the
education system to keep
people dumb so that they
can enslave them.
You know, I mean, I don't
know what else I can even
really say if people don't
get what I've talked about.
If you can't really
comprehend what I've talked
about, people just need to
really look inward and
look in a damn mirror and
ask the question, what the
hell is wrong with you?
Not me. Not Mark Passio.
Mark Passio's fine.
Mark Passio as a former
Satanist who came out of it
and actually became a
moral person and desisted in
his former evil ways.
I'm going to be fine.
You don't need to worry about
me. People need to look in
the mirror and worry about
themselves. You got to get
that URL to to go along with
what on earth is happening.
Get what the hell is wrong
with you. Yeah, exactly.
Redirect. I thought you were
going to tell them to get
Mark Passio's fine.
Mark, you speak with great
parhesia and it's it's
welcome. And I can tell you
care. And we've addressed
those who won't get it.
Let's talk to those who do
get it. When are you hosting
how to be the true media?
When are you doing the solutions
part of it? And also side
question, have you ever done
like stand up because you are
so close to having like a
carlin-esque stand up act
because you have enough
knowledge to make fun of the
stuff and that's all that's
necessary.
Richard, this is why I love
you because yeah, I mean
I would have loved to do
other things with my
existence. Comedy might
have been one of them.
I joke around with people,
but like I love
watching like old painting
shows, right? Like after
pro wrestling on Saturday
afternoon, like watching
painting with Bob Ross or
whatever. Sure, I had the
paint set and all.
I did. I wanted to become an
artist. And maybe I could have
if I really developed those
skills, you know, that
never materialized.
I you know, always say
this isn't Bob Ross style,
but this is nice. I try to
give it on. It's Picasso
during his blue period.
See, that's another thing,
Richard. You never cease to
amaze me with your talent,
man. You know, you're
you're a man of many talents.
I'll tell you, I heard you
sing at workfest. Damn, man.
I mean, you were singing some
door songs. It was like you
got a hell of a voice.
I just learned that last
summer for 51 years.
I was scared to be in
that's unbelievable.
It would have been like one
of my worst fears.
There was a time not like
probably 18 months ago.
You could have said, hey,
$10,000 for charity.
We want you to sing
karaoke. And I was like,
I'm not even going to try.
I know I can't do it.
Well, I was highly impressed.
I got to say.
Well, thank you.
Yes, that's very kind of you.
And I was more of an artist
of the painting variety
before I started getting into
like all this history and
reading. And it's like I could
learn about the people trying
to take away our freedom
forever. Or I could, you
know, follow my passions
as an artist. I like to
think that these shows
each week are my form of
like practical, conceptual
art and bringing the history
all together and doing it
live.
And this is absolutely a
form of artistic creation.
No question about it.
So, you know,
I like sports, you know,
I played baseball and football
when I was young, not not the
greatest that at them, but
appreciated them.
And I got very good at
bowling, you know, with very
little practice. It just came
naturally to me, you know,
I just got really good at it.
Like I got to like throw in
like in the 260s at some
point. I threw my high game
as a 265. I mean, that's like
with very little practice.
And I'm not saying that to
brag. Like I just never like
was like, I'm going to become
a bowler and go to the lanes
every, every day.
You know, that's like going
with friends once a week,
you know, going outside and
like lighten up some cannabis
and going on to the lanes
and like just having fun,
you know, like, so imagine
if I took it seriously, you
know, probably could have
been a great, you know,
there's many things I would
have liked when you're in those
when you're in those modalities,
when you're doing that thing,
you feel freedom because that's
what I feel from the karaoke.
Yeah, you get in the zone for
a couple of minutes. Yeah, you
get in that. All right.
So how to be the true media?
Are you teaching it again this
year? Yeah, regarding solutions,
you know, once you understand
what the real solution is,
which is true morality, which
is true objective morality
and understanding how natural law
works to bring us the results
and the consequences of our
free will behavioral decisions,
communicate that to other
people. So what I teach is the
technology of how that is done.
You want to become a podcaster,
you want to make videos and
documentaries, you know, you
want to publish books, like
I'm going to show you in this
tech seminar from the very
beginning of how to use an
operating system all the way
through to how to build a
website. So this is what I do.
It's called how to become the
true media dot com because we
need truth tellers in the
new media, right? We don't have
to just be the new media, we
have to be the true media, the
truth telling media. And this
course runs 23 weeks in
succession, one day a week, one
night a week. And it's held on
telegram. And I basically teach
this course over a six month
period from January through June
every year. You can check it
out how to become the true
media dot com. In addition
to that, you know, I'm going to
be hosting a seminar on
internal work, the spiritual
work that actually has to be
done to change ourselves
inwardly, not looking at the
external, you know, dynamics. I
do that through what on earth
is happening dot com. I explain
to people what's really going
on in the world, the
methodologies of control that
are being employed against us
talk about some of the
occult factors and, you know,
ideologies that are out there
teach true positive occultism.
What I refer to as the body of
knowledge known as the light
occult knowledge, which is how
natural law actually functions
in our lives. What we have to
do to actually change
ourselves if we want to see
change manifested in the outer
world around us. So this
seminar is called Mark Paseo's
shadow work seminar. And it
is not if you've heard this
term before, if you're
expecting it to be anything
like new age variants of so
called shadow work is
absolutely not that this is
very deep hard questions that
we must pose to ourselves and
then work through how we have
already been, how we have
been conditioned, what we
have been taught that is
false and untrue. And what
you got to say to yourself to
get your mind right to
recondition and reprogram the
subconscious. And then what do
you have to do to actually
get involved and take right
real world action? That's the
seminar coming up in
November, November 22nd of
this year, which is, I guess
what, less than two months
away now. And enrollment is
still open. You can enroll at
Waternerfishappening.com. It's
called Mark Paseo's shadow
work seminar. This is
probably going to be the most
profound internal spiritual
presentation that I have ever
delivered. You were there and
filmed and edited my natural
law seminar, which is
considered my magnum opus.
That's considered the best
body of work that I have
ever produced. And it is the
most important body of work.
And I thank you for being there
and doing that work to help me
assist getting that out to the
public. Richard, this is going
to be a lot different because
it's really going to be about
the individual and how they
must look at themselves
inwardly in order to change
into the kind of person they
have to become to really be a
champion of true freedom. So
it's going to be some
difficult work for a lot of
people engaging it. And once
again, I just have to state
emphatically, it is not new
age shadow work. This is real
occult shadow work that I will
be teaching and showing a
methodology for.
Well, Mark, you've been an
evangelist for freedom over
the years and I considered
you a fellow abolitionist of
the 21st century variety. I
think you're a whistleblowing
warrior, not a conspiracy
theorist. And I appreciate
you making so much time in
your schedule tonight to
share your wisdom to
elucidate these ideas for
the audience. And I know a
lot of our audience was
shaking their head the whole
time agreeing with you and
not saying I don't get what
he's talking about. So
excellent, Richard, thank
you so much. I consider you a
highly respected peer. I
love what you do. Please
continue and thank you for
all of your efforts, my
friend. Well, thank you.
And we'll talk to each other
soon. Hopefully we'll see
do another in real life
event. We'll have an
opportunity to get to look
forward to it. All right.
See you soon, Mark. Peace.
Take care.
All right, now, Scott, did I
leave you not able to ask
your questions? Oh, no, no.
Thank you for letting me jump
in there. Like this is
something I mean, gosh, I
wish we had like 10 hours
with them. Like obviously
these are deep topics with
a lot of things done packed.
So that's November 27th.
Yeah, right. Exactly.
Exactly. Well, you know,
long form because also I
just wanted real quick. You
could follow Mark over on the
X or what we call Twitter
in the if you're over 40,
it's still Twitter. That's
how I think of it. What on
earth is happening? Mark
Passio over there. And then
you've got, of course, the
site what on earth is
happening.com. And then
you've also got
how to become the true
media. So that's one place
right there how to become
the true media.com. But also
on what on earth is
happening.com. That's where
you get the shadow work
seminar right there at the
top. Mark's always got a
classy updated web page
going on. It's easy to
find his work and easy to
get into it.