Do you understand why it is that mothers are okay with this idea of having a doctor put
this needle into their baby's arm?
Yeah, because we're all brought up in the cult of authority.
So the authority always comes from people in Halloween costumes.
The police have a uniform, the doctor has a white coat, the priestess is black frock
with the white thing.
Everyone who's acting in a play is wearing a costume and you and I are just sitting
here like normal.
And the reason they do that is it makes them more believable.
That's what costumes are for.
If you want to dress up, it's because you want someone to believe you're something you're
not.
And we're all taught, oh no, no, the vaccines eradicated polio and they eradicated dengue
fever and this and that.
They never show you, of course, what we know is that those diseases were from other
causes and they were already on their way out at the end of their trends when they
introduced the vaccine and then they give it credit.
So had they not had a vaccine or not, those diseases were already gone down from zero.
Most of it was bad sanitation, bad hygienics.
You got shit in your water and your food like, yeah.
So, you know, and different environmental factors, DDT on the crops.
Remember that was polio.
And then of course, what they do is they say, oh, the vaccine eradicated the disease.
But now we got Guyan's Bar Syndrome.
You're like, what's that?
Like funny enough, it's the identical symptoms as polio.
But we got rid of polio with the vaccine.
So it can't be that you're like, well, how can two diseases have the same symptoms?
They just rebrand the name of the disease.
And then now we can get a vaccine for that.
And of course, we know the jabs are causing these diseases.
They're not curing anything.
And it's really sad, yeah, because a lot of parents, they are learning.
It's unfortunately, they're learning the hard way because you cripple your child
for life or kill them.
Remember during God Convid, SIDS or a cot death they used to call a sudden
infant death syndrome went away like 500 percent.
Funny enough, when you couldn't take your children in to get their vaccines
and vitamin K shots and all that, the kids stop dying in their cots.
Just right during the lockdowns for three months, you're like, well,
that's a coincidence.
And then we had sudden adult death syndrome.
SADs came in.
Well, that's funny.
That's never existed in the world.
And then they rolled out a mass worldwide injection program with boosters.
And suddenly adults are just died suddenly.
You know, and unfortunately, the programming is so deep that you need
to be a kooky conspiracy theorist to go looking into medical records
and studies and vaccine history, you know, you're just a conspiracy
theorist and you're like, well, funny enough, none of the conspiracy
theorists, kids drop dead, nor us, nor are we worried about dropping dead.
So and you sent me an email.
Who was the guy he does?
Dilbert, I think you've had him on your show.
He's got cancer now.
Scott, yes.
Yes, Scott Adams. Right.
So what's his story?
He took some jabs and boosters.
And he has cancer and he made a video saying that he has cancer
and that the anti-vaxxers have one.
That's that's really sad.
I don't know the guy, but that's horrible.
However, we don't have proof that his cancer is from the jabs or the
I know it correlates, but there is actually no proof that he doesn't
have cancer from some other kind of toxins he's been doing.
So and I don't think we won because nobody in the anti-vaxx
community or the no germ community, we don't want to see people
with cancer and getting sick and dying.
We don't win.
We lose just as bad as he does because we don't want to see people
get sick. So he said, I told you so, you know, we don't want anyone sick.
That's why we're out there doing it.
Like our motive is we don't want people getting sick.
And that's what these injections do because they're poisonous.
It's no one.
You've had lots of guests.
What do you what do you think is the right approach to moms
who inject the babies?
Do you should you be sympathetic when the kids get sick or should you be angry?
I just get sad about it.
But I also am at the point where it is what it is.
There's it's not really in my control.
So all I can do is put out films like I do, as you know, and go on podcasts
and educate people.
It's really up to them if they are going to take the time to do the research
we say, and I always tell people, don't listen to what I'm saying.
Don't ever believe me.
I'm getting this isn't my idea.
Like I'm reading the studies like everyone else.
Just go do the research and make a decision.
The sad thing is once you hurt your kid for life
and it's it's not actually for life.
You know, even if you get autism or whatever, any of these things
you can detox there are ways to heal your kids.
But unfortunately, the people who know those cures
are the same people you didn't listen to in the first place.
So you're most likely not going to go see them.
You're going to go see the same doctor to look for the cure.
You know, they're going to go. No, no, no, that wasn't the jab.
I think the thing is to just be understanding.
Just say you are ignorant and what what is good
is that what's bad.
But the good thing about it is the more people who hurt their children,
they become anti-vaxxers after they know
because they go, my kid was totally smiling, healthy,
rolling around laughing.
I took him to the doctor for his five jabs
and in the next days of vegetable and cry, you know,
and they know in the doctor is like, no, no, no, no, that's a coincidence.
You're like, so the more they hurt our children,
the more people we're going to have on our side.
So there is a silver lining.
It's just not a nice one, I think, you know.
Yeah, it's a sad.
I remember.
Yes, Steve, I remember when I was a teenager,
vaccines were not like they were not a thing.
I mean, if someone said to me, are you going to get your flu shot this year?
And I said, nah, whatever, like, whatever.
And then we'd go play tennis or whatever, you know.
Now it's like a cult.
And there's I can't remember how many the kids get in America now,
but it's 60.
I think we had four.
I was born in 71.
I'm pushing 54.
So we had like four.
And then we had that one where they prick you on the arm
with the three prong thing and you get a scar for life.
That right there should be your first.
I like, what did you put in my arm that put a scar for life?
I got really hip to the vaccines because I took a flu shot at work once.
They were giving them away free.
And I got sick as a dog for like two weeks.
And then my father took one on a business trip
to Phoenix, I think, from Chicago.
And he got what they call adult onset
juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, which is one in 200,000.
You don't get it as an adult.
And he's been on steroids for life, like almost killed him.
I saved his life.
I hadn't heard from him, threw him over my shoulder,
found him on the couch with buckets of vomit, piss and diarrhea all around him
dying. And I ran him to the hospital
and they like specialist flying all over.
So like that's unfortunately you learn the hard way.
But you know, I thought like, well, why would I take a thing
that's supposed to stop me from getting sick with the flu
if it made me sick for two weeks?
That's stupid.
That's just not what you go.
Steve, when when when did you start questioning things?
Let me ask that differently.
When did you start getting rid pulled?
Just in general, on the whole world, you mean?
It was really a body of mine.
It was kind of well, yeah, I was a little bit.
I was reading books like the spiders web.
I was getting into like the US funding.
I ran and I racked through like farm grain credits
through the Banco National,
Italia and selling them cluster bombs through Brazil.
Like so I knew the governments were doing dodgy crap,
but it was really post 9-11.
A friend of mine sent me one of those.
I can't remember even what they're called, but you know,
the early ones have loose change or whatever.
One of these documentaries like, dude, check this out.
You know, I was like, what the hell?
So I think 9-11 really started red pilling me
and then having my own son.
And then I started looking into vaccines
because of my own and my father's experience.
I was like, man, do I want to be stickiness in my child?
So that got me down the health road.
And then I started getting into,
I met some Mero Vingians online.
They were talking about the occult and esoteric stuff.
And I'm a Virgo.
So I just like things told straight up.
Like I don't just tell me straight up how it's going.
And they kept saying, no, we can tell you,
we can tell you all we want.
You won't understand because you don't have
the whole knowledge.
And as a Virgo, I got upset.
You know, I'm like, fuck you.
I'll figure it out and I'll tell you how to say.
So that dove me down into the occult
and I got into the Jesuits, the black nobility
and the money, you know,
ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, I'm around the spectrum.
So I just, I think I just got thirsty for knowledge
once I figured out,
hang on, things aren't what we think they are.
And as a kid, I just hated school.
Like I hated authority.
So I've always been anti-authority.
So I think it was just in me.
I don't know.
I don't, I couldn't say it.
It was a series of things.
Do you feel happier having,
let's say more enlightened view of the world?
I do because I don't worry.
At first it's terrible when you get red-pilled
because you worry too much about everything.
It's really horrible.
And then your next reaction to mine was,
I've got to tell everybody about all of this right away,
you know, and then you start to lose friends and family.
They all think you're crazy
because they haven't done the work and the research
and they don't know what you're talking about.
So you get isolated.
But then later, once you get the agendas
and what's going on,
now I don't freak out about the day-to-day playbook
that freaks everyone else out.
You know, you can see whatever the flavor of the week is,
oh Fukushima, are the Trumps gonna do this or they're bombing?
You know, I know what the long play is.
So I don't have to sit and worry about
what's terrible today in the news.
I know where it's all going.
So in the long run, I think it's liberating.
I think most people who have been red-pilled,
which is funny because actually the red ship,
you actually want the blue pill.
Everything is opposite.
As we were talking about this talk,
they've even told you that the red pill is good
and the blue pill is bad
when actually the blue shift in the toroidal field is good.
So, but yeah, anyone who's ever woken up real hardcore,
it's, they know, like you start to lose friends,
family, jobs, you know, it's not easy.
But I'm happier now.
I'm happier now.
I ask that.
I ask that because of the idiom ignorance is bliss.
There is that until you then ignorantly inject your child
with four vaccines and they have autism
and their brains burning
and they have a helmet on running their head on the wall.
How blissful is that?
There comes a time where there's a consequence
for your ignorance.
I would say ignorance is immediate bliss,
but it's pretty freaking dangerous in the long run
in this day and age to be ignorant.
Yeah, you mentioned 9-11.
This was a very big event.
Probably, okay, I would say second to COVID.
I think the COVID event was probably the biggest
in living memory,
but 9-11 probably the second biggest.
Yeah.
At least, at least you see it right away though.
How long did it take till you were like,
how long, you know, how many years went by
till you were like, what up?
Well, this is what I was gonna say.
So it didn't red pull me.
I just thought that it really was a bunch of Muslims
who hated America, who flew planes into the buildings, right?
Because I bought into the propaganda
and I didn't actually think for more than five minutes
about it, but just quickly,
can you remember what you were doing on the day?
Oh, I can tell you for certain,
I was on tour with my band from Denmark in America
and we were in Chicago and we had gigs.
The whole reason we went is
because we were gonna get a Rolling Stones review
at either Owen's garage or the Knitting Factory
right under New York Twin Towers.
So we did a US tour, a small one in the Northeast
and I woke up to take a pee
and all my band was sitting around this TV
watching the first plane at it, which it didn't,
but the first explosion that happened
and then I came out of the bathroom
and they were all freaking out.
I'm like, what is, what are you watching on TV?
What movie is that?
They're like, no, a plane at the World Trade Center,
a bomb and then as we were all talking,
the second one allegedly hit or whatever happened,
you know, and I was like, holy shit.
And then they came down and we lost the,
we couldn't go to New York
because those clubs were in ground zero under rubble.
So we got no Rolling Stone review.
We got the whole, it turned out to be the end.
We couldn't ship our gear back to Europe
because they said, oh no, you can't ship anything
on airplanes anymore.
You have to put them on freight.
So we couldn't fly our gear to Europe
for all of our England showcases.
So it pretty much ruined like my career.
So I remember very well,
but also we were in Chicago.
So we're looking up at the Sears Tower,
John Hancock building.
Now it's the Willis Tower.
We're all looking up like is a plane
gonna smash into that?
Like we thought the whole country was under attack
because nobody knew, you know,
and then it ruined the rest of the tour
because everyone was totally sad.
Like it really psychologically freaked.
You know, I was excited to bring all these guys
from Denmark to like, wait, do you see America?
And then everywhere we are,
everyone was just totally bummed out.
Like it destroyed the whole psyche of the nation.
Flat, you know, straight out psychological destruction.
What do you think happened on the day?
And, oh, I definitely think there were no planes.
I think Judy Woods was on it.
I think directed weapons and internal bombs.
They had those M8 switches
from those Israeli students on the 84th floor or whatever.
Like there's pictures of them with fuse switch boxes
lined all around their office.
So they blew it up.
And I think they probably used directed energy weapons.
I know that a plane was seen going at the Pentagon
and then it was, many witnesses said it lifted up
and took off and then there was an explosion.
I don't, I know nothing crashed in Shanksville
because the hole they said it made in the ground,
planes don't make holes in the ground when they crash.
Planes are made out of tin foil.
They look like a bird breaks the nose of a plane.
But on the USGS geological survey,
that hole was in that ground from like pictures back in the 80s.
So it's like, yeah, it was a massive psychological operation.
Then the Dematria numerology and everything is Jesuit
all the way it's got Jesuit fingerprints all over.
So what I think was crazy is they had the balls
to pull that off and brought daylight.
I would have done it at night.
So no, you know what I mean?
So there was, it would have been a lot easier to do that at night
but they wanted people in the building.
Plus most people don't know,
80% of the World Trade Centers were empty.
Most of it was unrented
and they needed to tear them down anyway
because there was an asbestos.
So it was gonna be like a whatever,
hundreds of million renovation project.
And I know a lot of people got sick
who worked at ground zero.
I think it was all the asbestos in the air
from the fallout.
Yeah.
What do you think happened?
What you didn't mention is that there was a third building
that everybody just seems to forget about
that just randomly-
Building seven.
There were actually two more.
There was also five and six.
There were actually five buildings, two planes.
All that.
And then that building seven one,
the woman on BBC said it had already collapsed
like 20 minutes before it's like behind her.
While she's doing the newscast
saying the Solomon building is collapsed
and it's sitting behind her.
And you're like, well, that's funny.
It's standing up right behind you.
So it's like, it seems they had knowledge.
What really happened though
is it brought in the entire war on terror,
the invasion of seven countries in the Middle East
as General Wesley Clark talked about on Democracy Today.
And it brought about the Patriot Act.
So, and then all of a sudden
the Homeland Security Act and all this crap.
So what it really did is brought in
like a totalitarian worldwide control
and these wars, they're not met.
How do you win the war on terror?
There's like that Australian comedian, Steve Hughes.
You know, he's like, how do you beat terror?
And it's the same with all these revolutionaries
like the Jesuits do.
Black Lives Matter, gay pride,
the woke thing, the transgender.
They're not meant to be won.
That's not what the plan is.
What you do is you start all these micro revolutions
that don't, they don't get anywhere.
But each group starts to identify with each other.
They're, you know, they're like, well now Black Lives Matter
and the rainbow people and the feminism
and the day all together,
they're just collecting balls and balls of dust
into a giant dirt ball
so that you have one totalitarian group.
They're not meant to be won.
They're meant to keep corralling everyone
into one ball through different revolutions
that never get won.
And those people won't win.
They think, oh, when we get in charge, you know,
but what was his name?
G. Edward Griffin had him on,
remember the Russian who defected to Canada,
Yuri Bresmanoff?
Yuri, Yuri Bresmanoff.
He said the same.
He's like, the thing is once they get in charge,
you're the first ones they take out
because you're dangerous when you're,
when you understand that you got duped.
You know, like these revolutionaries
are the first ones that are gonna go
because they know they're gonna be angry
that they got, that they didn't get their way
in the end after all, you know, that is the plan.
But do you think the world is a better place post COVID?
It's better than it was during Convid,
but it's, you know, I think the thing is
we're not seeing it because what they're doing,
it's always behind the scene.
Transhumanism's moving in.
Cash is getting taken away.
Cash stations are going down.
Stores are slowly putting in more self-checkout,
more card, less cash.
There's locks turning up on doors and they've got,
you're looking at, oh, Trump is now fighting
with Netanyahu and you're looking at the flavor of the day
and now looking at what's really going on behind the scenes.
More 5G towers going up.
So the control grid is tightening
still I think out of the public eye.
People are getting like they're, you know,
people are more aware of transhumanism now,
but they don't understand like the control grid is tightening.
Like it's going up all around us.
COVID did that with the ID passports, you know.
But Steve, what really bugs me,
what really grates me the wrong way
is it felt like there was this amazing awakening
during the COVID era, right?
I felt like there were people networking
and just starting to think alike.
Now under the Trump administration,
everybody's gone back to how it was.
They've just forgotten everything
and suddenly Trump can say,
we're going to bring in digital ID
and they'll go, yeah, yes, that's a great idea.
Or they'll talk about digital currency
and they'll welcome it.
Or they'll talk about mass surveillance
via Starlink and they'll welcome it.
It's like, they just keep, I don't get it.
I just don't understand what's happened.
Yeah, I don't know.
What do you think?
I think it's, because Trump's a salesman.
There's no different, Trump and Biden
are both Jesuits schooled.
They're both Jesuits, like Trump's a Mason
and his kids are Jesuits schooled.
But you need to, you first gotta keep the people divided.
So they like Trump because people hate him
and they like Biden because the other,
the right hates Biden, the left hates Trump.
So now the right and left hate each other
but then they need a salesman for each group.
So yeah, when Biden's in there and it's all electric ID,
everyone's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, now Trump's in there.
Yeah, it's gonna stop the terrorists
and the foreigners and those Moose lambs.
And it was like, oh yeah, let's put it in.
It's how they sell it to you.
It's these dudes are salesmen.
So I can sell you a piece of dog shit
if I tell you it's fertilizer.
You know what I mean?
I just have to make you change your view
on the worth of dog shit.
And I mean, adding to that, right?
I remember just a few years ago,
all of those supposed Trump supporters
and I'm not anti-Trump and I'm not anti-Biden, right?
I just want to make that clear
because I do like some things that Trump says and does.
It's not binary.
It's not one or zero.
But a lot of those people who were, you know,
who are Trump supporters, but he wasn't the president yet.
They were completely anti the vaccines and all that.
And now suddenly RFK is in
and they're kind of kicking the can down the road saying,
well, you know what we actually want is maybe good trials.
We want better trials and vaccines.
They're not making outright statements anymore.
They're just kind of pushing things.
They're adjusting the boundaries the whole time now
because I think that they are being
ideologically driven rather than principled driven.
Yeah. I mean, and they, like every politician,
if you just go back every country,
I don't care who left, right, whatever,
whatever they say to get elected, they do the opposite.
They never do it, but they can't not do all of it.
Like you'd know right away,
the guy was a liar and a dictator
if he didn't do something good.
That's why I think like you say,
Trump does some good things and Biden did some,
you know, they all do some good things
because no one's going to believe someone
who does no good things.
Otherwise you've just got like pull pot.
You know, even Hitler,
he made the Volkswagen like the Germans loved them, man.
You know what I mean?
They're like, yeah, cool enough
cause he was doing some good things,
but that's how they do it.
They do like 60% good things,
but none of them keep their word.
And Trump said he was the godfather of warp speed.
He still takes credit that he was the reason
they rushed the vaccines in the first place.
And now you got, oh, maybe we should be a little safer.
You're like, that's the guy who did it in the United States.
Nobody, and like you're saying now as supporters,
it's like, I don't know, man.
It's like people have a memory about two months old.
You know what I mean?
But I think because Huxley said that,
remember Brave New World?
Huxley, see in Orwell 1984,
you just got big brother and it doesn't care.
It just steps on you and watches you
and like, they'll come take you away.
Huxley's Brave New World was different.
He said, we in Nunday,
he was so much information every day.
Like you and I were talking about off-screen
like Fukushima, BP oil spill, you know what I mean?
Did anyone remember any of this?
Remember all those immigrants were coming up
to the border on Trump's first election?
There was like an army of immigrants.
Where'd they ever, they'd never even turned up.
I don't think they were real,
but that's what I think happens is we get,
they just throw like a 20,000 things at us a day
to worry about, you know, this story
and an airplane crashed into a helicopter.
That we just forget like four years ago
because that's what Huxley was saying.
There'll be so much stuff to worry about
that you can't care about anyone cause anymore.
And then you'll take the soma,
the drugs or, you know, you just want to numb yourself,
comfortably numb, you know.
I think that's what you do.
And then adding to the Trump appeal,
you have Elon Musk.
Right.
With his fake space program and his cars that blow up
and have graveyard full.
And there's not even enough with him
and cobalt to even make the batteries
for enough cars for Britain, let alone the world.
Yeah.
And then his grandfather got kicked out of Canada
for being the head of the, you know,
the, it was really transhumanism
but technocracy back then.
Yeah. I mean, there's just so much.
But again, doesn't it look, it's a movie, right?
Like I say actors.
So the judges, the doctors wear the white coats.
The judge wears the black robe.
The police wear the hat and the badge and all that.
These guys wear suits.
And the other guy wears like the billionaire techno cool.
These are actors just running scripts every day
by the numbers.
If you ever talked to Zachary K. Hubbard
or follow Jamatria Effect News,
this is all scripted by the numbers.
And it keeps you involved in the play
and the drama of the day by day, like I'm saying.
So you don't just get away from it and go figure out,
okay, I'm gonna start learning equity
and equity trust and natural law.
And I'm gonna start looking into injections
and you know, you don't start to liberate yourself.
They just want you worried of it
because when you're worried and scared,
you are inactive, we all know that.
We know the psychology between fear.
You're paralyzed.
And people who are paralyzed don't do anything for themselves.
Steve, do you think Elon Musk,
other than being put in that position that he is,
is actually very smart?
Well, I was gonna ask you the same
because like I'm sitting around as a musician.
I've got gigs.
I've got my son here every other week.
I'm making films.
I'm doing a few interviews here and there.
I don't have time to take a dump.
How does this guy running like eight,
how many companies does he have?
Five, four, eight, huge ones, right?
How do you run eight companies or five?
I don't even know what he's got.
And of course he doesn't know anything about any of it
because half of it's fake.
I personally think he's a frontman.
I can't prove that, but do you know anyone
with the energy and time
to run like seven multinational companies?
And how is he like one of the richest frontmen
in the world?
From what electric?
And a government department.
And what?
And a government department.
Was it Doge or something?
Yeah, well, funny enough, the Doge,
when you go back to ancient Venice,
the Doge was the guy in charge
of all of the black nobility.
He was like, not the pope,
but he was like the head mafia family
and he was the mafia boss, you know,
Tony Soprano or whatever, you know,
that's what the Doge was.
He was the guy in charge
of all the Venetian black nobility.
So it's kind of funny
that they're calling Elon Musk the Doge.
And the reason the black nobility came about
is they killed the Doge.
And they said, screw you,
we're all gonna run our own business.
Like they basically killed Tony Soprano, you know what I mean?
So it's really funny they're calling him that
just like we know the MAGA.
Trump runs on MAGA,
make America great again.
That's the name of the sixth high,
the highest degree of the satanic church.
The highest satanic priest is called the MAGA.
So they spit it in your face,
the Doge, the MAGA,
they're just telling you like straight up
who's running things.
But that's conspiracy theory.
And you're like, yeah,
but it's you can look it up.
It's like real, you know.
So it's kind of funny.
I don't know if you saw the theater
between South Africa's president and Trump
a few weeks ago in the White House.
I mean, it made world news
because Trump was going on about,
you know, farm attacks and all that.
And by the way, it is real, right?
There are farm attacks.
One white farmer is killed
every single week in South Africa, right?
That is real.
While everybody's talking about the farm attacks
and the genocide and all that,
so South Africa's president in that conversation
made one sentence,
which everybody seemed to have missed.
And something that he never says
and is completely out of character,
and he said, we can only approach these issues
with better technology.
There's your transhumanist.
There it is, right there, right?
The tax.
And we, and keep in mind
that we don't have Starlink in this country.
And now the government says we're getting Starlink.
Wow, right.
So yeah, see, it's what a Hegelian dialectic, right?
A dialectic problem reaction solution.
They roll out some shit and then say,
oh, we need this, we need,
that's how they do it all the time.
I didn't hear any of that.
It's good you caught that.
But are people aware of that?
Or is it only you who caught that?
Very few people have picked up on it.
But what's also interesting is Catherine Fitz says
that Elon Musk is an operation.
And it's a daughter surveillance operation.
I would wholeheartedly agree with that.
You know, like I said, I can't prove it,
but he's clearly a front.
And when you know his family, you know, his grandfather,
like it's technocracy.
It's totally technocracy, which is transhumanism.
Call it what you want.
I don't care, but an electronic surveillance control grid
that's gonna be run.
The other thing that everyone's not seeing
is the black nobility, the Jesuits work
for the Roman Catholic church
who works for the black nobility, right?
That's who's really running things.
That's how it goes.
You've had plenty of guests talking about this.
The thing they don't have is what they used to have
is there was no separation of church and state.
The government's government and the religion's the religion.
What they want is that together.
They want that back again
because the church is the control mechanism
behind where this is all going.
That's where your taxes all go.
They go into Switzerland through the Vatican.
It's not going to the Jays as we've talked about.
So what they need to do is if you notice
that a lot of the people aligned with Trump
or even a lot of the world leaders,
do you notice they're far right now all of a sudden?
The new trend is like everyone's so sick of the woke left
that they're going to far right Christian, they're that.
But see, no one understands the reason
they even built up all these far left radical revolutions.
Like I said, it's to trigger everyone to, that's the problem.
And the reaction is everyone's sick of that shit
and that now the solution is we're gonna go far right
with all these religious Christian.
It's gonna go Christian.
So that's also another agenda rolling out
is they want control, they want church and state.
Together again, not separate anymore.
And that's been a long-term goal for them.
There's an interesting segue there.
And I'll just quickly want to go back
to you mentioned the Jays, the Jews.
Now, I just need to bring this up
because since the October 7th thing,
there's been this massive increase
at least from what I can tell
in just undultrated hatred for Jews.
Now, I think that's a bad place to be.
I don't think just hating somebody for who they are
is a good idea.
Don't hate me simply because I'm white
or don't hate me simply because I'm South African.
It's my actual behavior that you might want to hate
and that's okay.
But the point is this is that you're gonna get pushed back
because you know that there are Jews
in positions of power in central banks
and in Hollywood and in education.
And so people are gonna say, but Steve, look at that.
Yeah, but you had Francis,
who'd you have talking about the black nobility not long ago?
Yes, well, I've had a number of guests.
I can't remember, what's her name?
Nevermind, but anyway, you see the Congress,
it's congressmen and congressmembers in America
who are running the Department of Health,
Department of Education, Department of...
The Jews aren't really in power positions there.
They're in management positions,
but they don't make the decisions.
You know, there are 70, 80 departments in the government.
Those are run by congressmen and they aren't Jews.
They're all Roman Catholics.
You could go all the way down Tupper F. Saucy
talked about this and rulers of evil.
The plenty of books show who's who.
What's his name?
I'm blanking on everyone,
but at the Committee of 300, Dr. John Coleman,
every group has bad apples,
so that's what they always like to do.
They put some Jews in mid-level management positions,
put them in the news.
You never hear the names, though, of anyone.
You know, the same thing like propaganda, right?
You see like a Mao poster or a change.
You see these propaganda posters.
Everyone knows it is.
You can see it.
You know, there's like the sunburst behind the guy
and he's looking up.
Then you see all these cartoons of these evil Jews
with the hook nose and the cur, you know,
they look like this dick dastardly.
Do you think if the Jews were in charge
that there would be those cartoons all over?
You can't see that's propaganda.
The Jews are putting out cartoons of themselves
with hook noses and, you know,
no, the people who are running the stuff
you don't hear about them ever.
You hear about the Jews.
You can say anything you want about the Jews.
You know, you got what's his name, Green,
and go to any channel on YouTube,
bitch, they're bashing Jews left and right and center.
Well, if the Jews ran the place,
don't you think that's the videos
that YouTube would be banning?
Francis Leader, sorry.
Yes, yeah, exactly.
She's great.
Yeah, she's awesome.
So, yeah, there are bad people.
Now, the thing is like people don't know
the Jesuits started Israel
and only one out of 10 Zionists are Jewish.
No one wants to talk about that.
Israel is not a Jewish state.
It's a Zionist state.
And as we've talked about before,
that's the goal is the Vatican wants
the Middle East for the Black nobility.
They don't like Jews and they don't like Arabs.
That's why I said this at Anarchipalco a year and a half ago.
I said it on your show.
I said it on AlphaCast.
I said, you watch.
They're going to select Trump again,
just like they did Grover Cleveland.
They're going to give him a second term with one between
and then he's going to suddenly pull out on Israel
because I'm a man of the people.
And sure enough, he's fighting, you know,
Benjamin Mielkowski or whatever his real name is,
you know, like now he's having a fight with it.
And I told people, I said, that's the whole point.
And now it's...
But is that not theater?
This is all theater.
Yeah, because this is the whole point.
And even like, you know, Patrick Henningson
who's on UK column and 21st century wire,
now rockets are getting into Israel from Iran
and Yemen, they just took out like two U.S. fighter jets.
Horn is like billion dollar infrastructure.
So now we know that the Middle East, you know,
the Arabs and Muslim world can strike Israel.
And that's what I've been telling people for two years.
That's the point.
They want mutual annihilation
so they can come in and clean up the mess.
Eventually they will call the U.S. and the West,
you know, Britain, the West will come back in
once the damage, just like they're gonna do with Palestine.
The genocide's already done.
And then like when it's pretty much you can't turn back
and it's then they're gonna be like,
oh, we need to put an end to this.
And I think Trump even said, right,
they're just gonna bulldoze it all out
and make condos and shit.
God, so you're like, what the hell, man?
I can't believe people follow this guy.
Like it's just ludicrous.
Ludicrous.
You said earlier that once you see the game plan,
you know, your anxiety levels go down.
Steve, what is that game plan?
Well, that's what I'm saying.
The game plan is the Roman Catholic Church
used to have total control of the world.
They were with the state.
And that's a whole nother show,
the gulfs and the gibbalines
and who sided with the Vatican
and who sided with the Kings and the Dukes
and all that.
That is the plan
and they want top-down vertical control.
So what we have right now is horizontal control.
They're basically like the pharaohs,
but that's another story
they don't come from Egypt either.
But what's going on right now is it's like mob wars.
Every country's president is,
they're related to these black nobility families.
Yeah, everyone knows like, oh yeah,
Trump's related to Charlemagne and King John II
and so is Biden and Clinton.
There hasn't been one who isn't, even Obama.
And it's every country you go to, they're related.
So, but they're like mob bosses.
So what they want is they kind of want control
of each country.
The president select says,
I want to run this part of the patch.
But the black nobility say,
no, we want it back to the old days
where there's Papa, the pope, gives the orders down.
And of course he's taking orders
from the gray pope, Papi Orsini,
and then you've got the black pope
of the Jesuits, probably still above the white pope.
But that's what they want.
They want to go back to vertical rule.
They're having fights over who runs the New World Order.
The New World Order is old.
It's been around for a thousand years.
Like this is nothing new, we're already in it.
But they're having fights over
vertical versus horizontal control.
You know, they want one king,
king of the world is what they want.
Not a bunch of kings, you know, different kings.
You said they're having fights.
Now there's something interesting.
OK, so David Ike, who I like.
But he seems to hold his view
that everything is just this well oiled machine
controlled right from the top.
You're suggesting that there are internal fights.
There's competition happening.
Yeah, I'm suggesting there used to be
a well oiled machine running straight from the top.
And that top was the black nobility
through the Vatican, through the Holy Roman
appointed kings, queens, dukes, you know,
later presidents, prime ministers.
It's not happening anymore.
They want it back.
Like it's gotten a little bit out of control.
So yeah, I'm suggesting they're having like mob wars.
That said, you know, when the Gambinis
are fighting whoever is over like Miami, you know,
they still listen to the top boss in New York.
They, you know, they're they'll fight with any
within the mob.
But the but the head of the mob runs it.
And I'm suggesting that's what's going on here
is they're all salivating at the chops, you know,
they're they're I think they're having
little turf wars personally.
That's what I see, which could be our saving grace.
They could take themselves down
actually just through sheer greed and stupidity.
But what you saying possibly means
that the simulation model that David speaks about
isn't isn't correct.
I agree with him that it is still run very tightly
controlled from the like the pyramid thing
you're talking about from the Council of Thirteen.
Yeah, well, that's the Black Nobility.
Like, yeah, I totally agree that there is
the Black Nobility Council of Thirteen at the top.
And really, it's actually four families
are five at the top of that.
But you can five people can't run the world.
I think that's part of the big push for the
technocracy and now the AI, right?
Like, how quick is AI taken off, man?
I think you and I talked about AI
like literally two or three years ago
and we're like, ah, that's 10 years off.
No, man, everyone's using it now.
Like, look how quick that came on.
It was literally like two years.
It's like dominating everything.
My opinion is that I don't think it will ever take over.
I don't think it has the ability to
because I think it will always be humans in control of it.
Yeah, so you don't see like a terminator,
Skynet situation.
Well, I don't think there's nukes for it to leash.
They can't unleash it.
We've got BFBs, like we said,
I won't say it on UK column, a big frigging bombs.
I don't see it working like that.
Here's the problem I see with AI.
Because it's people willingly.
Hang on, what I'm saying is
people willingly are giving up their own sovereignty.
It's not AI taking it from them.
It's people choosing to give up sovereignty.
Right, and here's the problem I see with AI
is I see it as a two-generational soft kill, like.
AI is doing everyone's thinking for them.
That's doing everyone's, just like Google,
but now it's doing it for you and it's smarter
and it's faster.
It can literally write you a song in like half a second.
Like it's crazy.
What that does eventually is it puts your brain in atrophy.
You need to use your brain for it to keep working,
otherwise it turns to jelly,
like those fat people in Wall-E floating around on those.
They don't want the levitate thing, all they do is eat.
So after two generations where people don't have to use their brain,
the human brain is literally going to atrophy
and cause people are going to be born stupid, raised stupid.
And that way then you're not going to be able to,
if the AI does in two generations,
come up with a way to control us
through the technical grid that they're putting up.
Yeah, the humans are putting it up.
If the AI gets control,
there won't be anyone left smart enough
to figure out how to stop it.
There won't be John Connor.
You know what I mean?
There's going to be a bunch of Wall-E's
floating around on their levitating platforms.
That's the danger I see is it's going to make people stupid.
Steve, a problem that always arises
when we have these kinds of conversations
is that people say,
oh, but you guys are so negative and so pessimistic.
Do you see a light at the end of the tunnel
or is that light a train coming towards us?
Yeah, that was a great cracker song.
I see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Someone please tell me it's not a train.
I see it like this because we still have loopholes
with equity and equity trust.
There are legal loopholes that they're still using
in the maritime system or under the law system.
I think there are going to be pockets of people okay.
And I think they're going to have a great,
a way better time than we've been having.
And I think there's going to be people screwed
and you could see that in Brave New World.
If you remember the, did you read Brave New World
or ever see the movie on it?
That's Hawksley, yeah.
They actually did a really dodgy
like early 80s movie version of it.
I can recommend watching it again.
It's long, it's like two and a half hours.
But in the Brave New World,
do you have the people living in the cities?
You know, the Alphas, Betas, Gamers,
and then they go on vacation to see the wild men.
And that was the humans they just left alone
living out in the wild
who didn't want to be part of the system.
You had the same thing in 1984,
Winston and all them.
They're under the,
they're under the system, a big brother,
but down in the city,
the proletariats are still out drinking
and bars in London and singing.
They drop a few bombs in there once in a while
just to show who's boss,
but they're pretty much left to their devices.
And I see the world,
I think those books are both very right.
I think there's going to be people
making little collectives here and there
that are going to be amazing.
And I don't think the government's going to come after you
with drones and blow up you and your 40 farmer buddies,
you know what I mean?
Like they might light the place on fire
like they do or floods, you know,
like they're doing with these California fires,
laser beam wars,
but I don't think they're just going to like come around
and round up everyone who's not in
because it is voluntary, like you're saying,
if you want to be in the slave system,
it's cause you, you're volunteering
and the people are taking action to get out of it.
So yeah, I think, I think there's going to be hell on earth
just like there is always.
There's going to be hell on earth for some people
who go along with this shit and don't wake up
and there's going to be heaven on earth.
I think for those who are waking up and taking action.
I think another great parallel
other than say Brave New World is actually Game of Thrones.
In many ways, it's a, it is a metaphor for,
I don't know if you know the story,
but the plot basically is that you have this world
that is fighting, you know, for freedom.
Meanwhile, there's an even bigger threat
that's coming from the north.
Winter is coming and everybody ignores it.
I mean, it's probably no accident
that series was written like that.
They tell you what's going on, you know, yeah.
So that's the question, what is winter?
What's the metaphor for winter is coming?
Is it the grand solar minimum?
Maybe winter literally is coming.
Are we in for a grand solar minimum?
And food shortages and, you know, like,
1812 was called 1800 and frozen to death.
They, the summer never came and they didn't,
they all starved to death.
Like, is that what's going on?
But that's part of the whole Red Bull experience
is that you realize how inverted everything is.
Yeah. And I think Game of Thrones is a good,
that's, you know, the Game of Thrones term.
That's like what I'm talking about with the mob wars.
It is that like the little kings,
they're all fighting each other for like,
who's going to control, you know, the main city or,
you know, I can't remember Game of Thrones was years ago,
but yeah, they're like each having a fight
and allegiances and alliances and backstabbing and betrayal.
I think the elites are just like that.
I think Game of Thrones is real.
It's like that by design, you know,
because these are Satanists and Luciferians and occultists.
That's what you do, you invert reality.
You take the reality of the realm, God's realm,
or if you don't believe in God, whatever,
you take all that is good and then turn evil into good.
You know, war is peace, freedom is slavery.
You know, that's what we're all said,
you know, all that double think, double speak.
That's what you do, you invert everything.
So no one knows what's up, what's down,
what's right, what's wrong.
And that's where you get all this fighting.
You got people who are awake to it all,
sound like frickin' crazies to people who are totally asleep
because they don't even have a reference
from where you're coming from, you know.
So how are you gonna get along?
You're two human beings totally flipped upside down
from each other and that's how they keep it on purpose.
That's why the media, I mean,
the media isn't at like seven corporations
and probably they're all owned at the top
by like Black Rock, Vanguard, State Street.
So of course the media is not gonna tell you anything
because they work for their corporate overlords,
their corporations, you know what I mean?
I think it's shocking that we're still allowed
to sit around and have these kind of talks,
that if people want something positive,
they aren't in total control
or this shit would have been shut down long ago, man.
You and I would have got rounded up
and sent off to the camps like long ago
if they had total control
where they want it to be like that.
So if anyone wants some saving grace,
this talk right here and ones like it
are proof that they don't run the roost totally yet.
So maybe there I might have disagreed with David Ike.
Now they might be letting us have these talks
to collect data against us for trials later, you know.
I don't know like if I'll see you in a jumpsuit.
Yeah, but I don't know, I don't know.
Yeah, Steve, I'm not entirely certain
that everybody can play 5G chess, 5D chess.
Yeah. I mean, I don't think I also think
that a lot of of these elites are just also quite stupid.
Yeah, they do do some dumb stuff.
I agree with you.
There's no such thing as 5D chess.
Anyway, that's stupid.
That's just totally dumb.
We live in a 3D world.
No, but that kind of that kind of band, I think from Q.
Now that's 3D chess.
Yeah, Trump and Q in a Q in attack.
That's the Rothschild's Q in attack.
The Queen Q, Q clearance security, you know,
energy clearance security, that's all that.
That was the 3D chess was telling you
they're playing 5D chess against the black hats
and the white hats, you know, in a H.C.
You're like, you're telling me I can't.
Nobody can figure out what H.C. is Hillary Clinton.
But it makes it, but it makes general conversation impossible.
I was chatting to somebody the other day
and I said, have you forgotten warp speed, right?
And they go, yes, but, but warp speed was a strategy
against the FEMA camps.
I mean, that's the problem is
if you want to believe something bad enough,
you can make up anything.
And Q is the Q Cyop, I call it.
It's a master at that.
It's a total master at spinning.
First of all, it's, it's again, it's a story.
Who are these white hats and these black hats?
Well, where do they live?
What's their names and addresses?
You've got, it's like the war on terror.
It's the black hats.
You're like, okay, show me their names.
Show me where they live.
Let's go get them.
Let's arrest them, round them up.
You know, not kill them.
Let's go throw them in jail, try them.
Well, you can't.
It's a, it's a, it's a fake entity
without a face and a name and addresses.
I'll tell you, it's got addresses
as the black nobility.
I can tell you where the Jesuit headquarters are.
I can tell you where they all live.
So it's another one of these abstract things.
And it sounds good though, right?
Like, oh, and again, it makes you inactive
because you're like, oh, the, what is the message of Q?
Don't do anything.
The white hats have this all sorted.
We've got it, right?
How long, well, when did Q come out?
Like that was Trump's first, what's that?
Like 12 years ago, I can't, when did Q come out?
2017?
Trust the plan Steve, trust the plan.
Sure.
I mean, you're welcome to, you know what I mean?
I know people who still are, I know people,
they're actually family members,
so I'm not gonna say their name here,
but I know people who believed in Q,
figured out it was BS during Convid
and are now back on Q again.
I'm like, what?
I can't believe it, you know?
I'm like, how did you, they got off,
they got off Q and they got addicted to it again
because they're great at it.
They, you know, you could say anything of,
yeah, oh, but the reason that's that
is because, you know, you could just make up any nonsense.
And if you wanna believe it, you'll believe it, of course.
If you wanna believe something,
that's what sales is all about.
That's what liars do in sociopaths and conmen.
They know what you want,
so they'll say anything to make you do what they want,
right?
That's the whole point.
All I need to do is know what you really want.
And people want everything to be okay,
even though it's not really all going okay,
you know, under the thing.
But it is for the more like, my life's great,
isn't your life great?
I'm having a good time.
I actually think that South Africa is a good place to be
for the technocratic looming future.
Yeah, well, the actual fact,
I think Africa in general is a good continent to be.
Yeah, totally.
I would say Micronesia, anywhere like that.
Anywhere that's still got a little backwards,
let's call it, or still in the fifties,
or you know, so anyone is not like,
got a Starbucks on every third corner.
Yeah, I totally agree, man.
I think, or just out in the rural anywhere,
no matter what country, and I totally agree.
But in actual fact,
in actual fact, I would argue that the Amish
are out of the curve.
They haven't had since the beginning, man.
They're starting to, we used to all laugh at them, you know,
like they're looking great.
Now you're like, Jesus, man.
They look great.
I keep thinking of that movie.
What was the Kingpin, the bowling movie?
Did you ever see that movie with Bill Murray and Woody?
Oh, go watch Kingpin with Bill Murray and Woody Harrelson.
It's hilarious.
Oh, you got to watch it, man.
I won't tell you, but yeah, it's too gross for a UK call,
but there's a scene in there, it's just amazing.
But yeah, they're looking great.
And I think, like I said, in the future,
we can still use technology, you know.
I'm not against technology at all.
I think AI is awesome.
Yeah, I think AI is great if you use it,
if you still use your brain.
I think what people, what I'm gonna do,
I won't speak for anyone,
I'm gonna use AI as little as I can
to make sure that I still have to use my nut,
you know what I mean?
Because I don't want my nut going mushy.
You know, I already do that enough with beer
and some whiskey and stuff.
I think the whole thing with technology and AI
and all that, these are also tools
that can be used for good.
And so you just have to apply some discernment.
Well, it's kind of funny, you know,
the philosopher Alan Watts, remember him
in the 60s and 70s, he was a big influence on me.
He did a transhuman, he was totally for transhumanism.
I wouldn't say for it, he just wasn't against it.
And he did a lecture where he said, look,
now this lecture was in like 1970 or 71.
So we didn't really have computers.
I think we might've had like IBM had a thing
the size of my house, you know, like with big knobs.
But what he was saying was totally true.
He said like every, he said humans used to be
a telekinetic psychic.
We could talk, you know, we used to be able
to communicate through the ether.
And he said, we lost that.
And all technology up to that 1971
was us trying to get back together to each other as one.
And he even predicted the internet.
And he said, there will come a time
when movies won't be any good anymore
because you're going to really want to feel
that girl dancing there.
And pretty soon you're going to want to dance with that girl
and they're going to make a technology where she's,
you can actually hold her,
but then you're going to want to feel her.
And he said, then they're going to make a technology,
you know, and he called it all.
He said, we're just going to keep building this stuff
until we're everything connected together.
And he said, you won't be able to do anything
in secret, there won't be lying
because everything will be known and spied on and watched.
And he said, this was just all this technology
is a natural extension of the human body coming out.
You know, and that was his,
I'm not saying that's my opinion,
but that was his, he was just saying,
that's how it's going to go.
And sure enough, we got all these 3D holograms now, right?
And these Google glasses and what's this Neuralink shit?
I don't know if that even works.
Do you think Neuralink's real or, you know, this chip?
I could be.
I'm looking at the time, give me a nugget of wisdom.
A nugget of wisdom, live in the now,
be happy if, if don't sit around on the internet
worrying about today's story and what crashed into what
and what's going to happen tomorrow
and worrying about what happened to you yesterday.
Love, forgive, but don't forget.
If you're having a good time now,
that's all there is, is the now.
And don't live in fear.
If you get in fear from those people
sitting around in front of your computer afraid,
it's pointless, go outside, hug a tree,
take your kid out, play some, go fishing,
just go enjoy life.
It is what it is.
That that's my wisdom.
It is what it is.
Like it or not, how's that?
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Jerm, great to and congrats for getting on UK Coloman.
That's awesome.
And hopefully we'll do this again sometime.