WEBVTT 00:00.340 --> 00:06.360 Greetings. Welcome to whatever channel you're seeing this on. I don't know which one it's going to be. 00:07.260 --> 00:12.380 We're doing some Q&A. I'm here hanging out with Larkin for the next week and we're having a blast 00:12.380 --> 00:17.420 and we thought, hey, we're rarely together in person so why don't we take some questions and have some chats 00:17.420 --> 00:23.800 that we usually have to have remotely staring into the black hole of cameras instead of each other's lovely eyes. 00:24.500 --> 00:26.580 Although we're both staring into the camera. 00:28.120 --> 00:34.580 Alright, so we have two more that we're going to do here. One from Remco. 00:35.020 --> 00:39.720 He wants us to discuss an electoral property. He says, seeing as both of you generate content and media, 00:40.180 --> 00:45.540 your thoughts on piracy, for instance, material property rights are eventually respected through force. 00:45.720 --> 00:49.660 You acquired something through labor and now need to defend it. 00:50.080 --> 00:54.300 How do either of you see it when you created a non-material asset? 00:55.140 --> 00:55.640 You want to go first? 00:56.720 --> 01:01.280 I mean, we've talked about this a billion times before, so I think we can do a sort of an abbreviated version. 01:01.280 --> 01:03.100 We've both talked about it a billion times before. 01:03.520 --> 01:07.480 Together, independently and every rich way you possibly can. 01:07.960 --> 01:12.600 But I think it's one of the things that can be boiled down if you start with the premise of self-ownership. 01:12.760 --> 01:18.280 Like, I own me. If I like write a book over here, I'm allowed to go and now that I see my book. 01:19.040 --> 01:21.620 I'm allowed to bother to write a book, not show it to anybody. 01:22.120 --> 01:30.040 But nobody has the right to demand the product of my intellectual effort or physical effort or any other. 01:31.600 --> 01:36.080 However, that's, and so you can sort of say, well, that's you owning it. 01:36.260 --> 01:44.420 Well, kind of sort of, except once it's out, then it's like, I don't have the right to retroactively make an agreement. 01:44.420 --> 01:46.520 And to use sort of an silly example. 01:47.080 --> 01:52.020 And I'll ask, you know, I'll ask people how they respond to this and often their position falls apart. 01:52.660 --> 01:58.500 Okay, so you're like, I got a flat tire and you pull over and the guy and he's like, oh, shit, I hardly ever do this. 01:58.540 --> 01:59.380 How do you even do this? 01:59.420 --> 02:00.760 And the guy says, well, you jack it up. 02:01.560 --> 02:03.540 Don't jack it up till the wheels off the ground. 02:03.680 --> 02:10.600 Jack it up till it's just barely touching the ground because you don't want the car's weight on it when the lugs get loose. 02:10.600 --> 02:12.820 But you also don't want the wheel to spin. 02:12.960 --> 02:15.900 And if you let it rest a little bit, you go, oh, thanks, cool. 02:15.960 --> 02:16.800 Thanks for the idea. 02:16.960 --> 02:20.780 And you change the tire out and then you lift it up enough to put the spray on and put it back on. 02:21.120 --> 02:25.500 And then he says, by the way, don't ever do what I just told you without giving me $50. 02:26.520 --> 02:29.800 You're like, what the hell are you because that is my intellectual property. 02:30.020 --> 02:31.100 It is my invention. 02:32.020 --> 02:38.680 And I own the thing that you now have in your head as a way to do things in the physical world. 02:39.340 --> 02:46.000 And the idea that you that somehow it would be bad for you to do a thing that's all the way in your head. 02:46.060 --> 02:48.400 You don't need to go back to him and learn again. 02:48.900 --> 02:54.120 If you like have a bad memory, you have the idea in your head, you know how to do it in your head. 02:54.260 --> 03:01.340 The idea that you have to pay him for the privilege of doing something that is now part of your knowledge base is ridiculous. 03:02.180 --> 03:07.940 And that's just sort of an oversimplified version of like, if I hear someone play a song and they go, 03:07.940 --> 03:10.300 oh, yeah, I did. 03:10.640 --> 03:13.220 He made a cool song in AI and we might make it in not AI. 03:14.600 --> 03:16.600 But if I hear it and go, oh, it goes like this. 03:17.000 --> 03:19.780 It sounds so cool when he plays it on this bad ass. 03:21.060 --> 03:23.500 Someday you'll hear a final version. 03:24.780 --> 03:29.940 But if I then know how to play it for him to say, well, I'm going to send people to beat the crap out of you. 03:30.140 --> 03:35.160 If you hit that pattern of notes without my permission, like that's kind of bogus. 03:35.160 --> 03:41.480 Now, there is a point if I go, yeah, Patrick Smith, I don't know anybody by that name. 03:41.600 --> 03:42.700 Listen to the song I wrote. 03:42.860 --> 03:43.980 Hey, everybody buy my song. 03:44.300 --> 03:45.620 At some point it's fraud. 03:45.900 --> 03:48.960 It's me cashing in on fraud if I pretend it was mine when it's not. 03:49.640 --> 03:51.720 And so there is that side to it. 03:51.820 --> 03:55.800 If somebody takes my book right before I print it and print this with their name on it, 03:56.260 --> 03:58.820 like you're pretending you wrote that you fricking didn't. 03:58.820 --> 04:01.840 But if someone says, here's the book, I memorized Larkin's book. 04:01.840 --> 04:04.820 I'm now going to make a video and say the whole thing, which you've done. 04:05.320 --> 04:06.660 Well, you didn't memorize it. 04:06.800 --> 04:08.380 Wow, that would be a little difficult. 04:09.520 --> 04:14.940 I think it's silly for me to pretend I have the right to beat you up if you say those words in that order. 04:15.120 --> 04:17.440 The most dangerous superstition audio book on audible. 04:18.140 --> 04:19.960 Great audio performance, I must say. 04:20.660 --> 04:20.860 Look at it. 04:20.860 --> 04:21.840 Indeed it is. 04:22.720 --> 04:24.900 The voice sounds very familiar for some reason. 04:26.140 --> 04:31.580 And so if you break it down to the simple scenarios, if you start with the premise of self-ownership, 04:31.580 --> 04:35.200 what most people get, the basic thing. 04:35.380 --> 04:39.840 But when people are like, I could rant forever. 04:40.080 --> 04:41.580 Okay, I'll make this super short. 04:41.960 --> 04:44.020 A lot of people go, well, here's my position. 04:44.160 --> 04:48.240 Are you pro-intellectual property or anti-intellectual property? 04:48.920 --> 04:52.080 And I would basically say anti as a general rule. 04:52.700 --> 04:58.860 But if your answer to that question kind of retroactively makes you change your logic, 04:58.860 --> 05:03.880 then it's like that became your new weird God instead of saying like, 05:04.100 --> 05:09.700 I have the right to make a movie and say, nobody's allowed to see this unless you come into this building 05:09.700 --> 05:13.820 and give me 50 bucks and you don't bring in a recording device 05:13.820 --> 05:17.020 and I'm going to make you agree to do that or you don't get to see my movie. 05:17.120 --> 05:18.920 I would have the absolute right to do that. 05:19.700 --> 05:24.540 And if you came in and recorded it after agreeing not to, then you're a butt head. 05:24.540 --> 05:28.320 And you could sort of say, well, doesn't that sort of pretend it's your property? 05:29.920 --> 05:32.380 My time and effort is my property. 05:32.560 --> 05:35.840 And if I make up an agreement that you don't get to hear this, 05:36.260 --> 05:39.440 like I'm going to perform a song and I'm only performing in this building 05:39.440 --> 05:43.620 and the only people I'm allowing into my building or the people who give me 10 bucks at the door, 05:44.580 --> 05:47.940 I'm absolutely justified to do that because I own myself. 05:48.720 --> 05:52.540 And the people who take, well, intellectual property isn't real. 05:52.540 --> 05:55.300 Therefore, whatever anybody makes is mine for free. 05:55.480 --> 05:57.220 Like, that's not how it works. 05:57.880 --> 06:00.660 And I think it was to be with Cancella. 06:00.720 --> 06:01.500 We did do it, yeah. 06:01.880 --> 06:06.060 Where he was like, I think if you put a paywall, then you're the meanie bad guy. 06:06.200 --> 06:09.120 I forget how he phrased, you want to straw me and do bad? 06:09.120 --> 06:10.040 There was a big conflation. 06:10.380 --> 06:12.000 I mean, I can role play Cancella pretty easily. 06:12.300 --> 06:12.520 Yeah. 06:13.180 --> 06:16.540 But there was a, in that discussion, there was a big misconception, 06:16.840 --> 06:19.180 I think, with people on all sides watching, 06:19.180 --> 06:27.380 where you making freedom content to try and improve the condition of the world, 06:28.460 --> 06:31.260 being paywalled was a dickheaded thing to do. 06:31.620 --> 06:37.200 Therefore, people are justified in copying it and violating the agreement 06:37.200 --> 06:40.400 that they signed when they agreed to pay for it, right? 06:40.620 --> 06:43.440 So like, they signed up to your thing that to pay, somebody did. 06:43.960 --> 06:45.580 They signed up to your thing, they paid for it. 06:45.620 --> 06:47.840 They checked the box that said, I agree not to share this. 06:47.840 --> 06:48.300 Yeah. 06:48.620 --> 06:49.540 And then they shared it. 06:49.680 --> 06:53.960 So they broke their agreement with you when they shared it. 06:54.000 --> 06:54.100 Yeah. 06:54.280 --> 06:57.580 That's a violation of consent and property rights when they did that. 06:57.880 --> 06:59.640 And so that was the complaint. 07:00.020 --> 07:00.220 Yeah. 07:00.540 --> 07:03.660 Not, but then there was also these people that were just justified 07:03.660 --> 07:06.800 in violating their consensual agreements because it was a, 07:06.920 --> 07:09.560 they considered it to be a dick move that Larkin would make, 07:09.840 --> 07:11.240 would paywall freedom content. 07:11.360 --> 07:11.580 Yeah. 07:11.580 --> 07:14.000 Even though 90% of the content you make is free, 07:14.000 --> 07:15.200 it's more than that. 07:15.360 --> 07:16.980 And you pay all 1% of it or whatever. 07:17.480 --> 07:22.360 But this is the kind of like bad thinking that I try and argue, 07:22.540 --> 07:25.160 that makes people not like me sometimes in the anarchist movement 07:25.160 --> 07:29.100 because I'm like, I tell status all day long that your stupid feelings 07:29.100 --> 07:31.680 don't justify your law to control people. 07:31.800 --> 07:33.960 Well, your stupid feelings about what's a dickhead move 07:33.960 --> 07:36.080 doesn't justify you violating a contract. 07:36.420 --> 07:36.640 Yeah. 07:36.960 --> 07:40.200 And that's like, and that's sort of the commie mentality trying 07:40.200 --> 07:43.220 to sneak in under the guise of a philosophical argument 07:43.220 --> 07:43.840 when it is. 07:43.920 --> 07:46.740 And it's like, I should be entitled to see your movie. 07:47.500 --> 07:48.800 Like, no, you shouldn't. 07:48.920 --> 07:50.580 We could have made that movie and then burned it. 07:50.660 --> 07:52.240 You have no right to see it at all. 07:52.540 --> 07:54.900 And if we say, we're going to put it on this platform 07:54.900 --> 07:58.300 and you agree in doing this that you're not going to post it 07:58.300 --> 07:59.060 somewhere else. 07:59.400 --> 08:02.240 And people are like, hey, YouTube, YouTube to take down 08:02.240 --> 08:05.560 my posting of the thing that literally I directly said 08:05.560 --> 08:08.400 I will not post other people's stuff without their consent. 08:09.220 --> 08:11.440 Yeah, I did exactly what you said. 08:11.440 --> 08:13.560 And it wasn't you got beat up in a dark alley. 08:13.640 --> 08:16.460 It was the thing you said you wouldn't do and did. 08:17.020 --> 08:19.900 YouTube undid by taking it down because you said 08:19.900 --> 08:20.800 you weren't going to do that. 08:20.860 --> 08:22.740 You agreed to do that as part of the whole thing. 08:23.020 --> 08:26.680 And the people who go into entitlement mentality 08:26.680 --> 08:28.800 and there's still somebody I think it's on like 08:28.800 --> 08:29.700 bit shoot or something. 08:29.840 --> 08:32.420 I don't even comment there because it's just a toxic 08:32.420 --> 08:35.480 idiot fest still under almost every one of my videos. 08:37.360 --> 08:39.880 Copyright strike, which I didn't, by the way, 08:39.880 --> 08:42.800 but we did point out like, I don't know if somebody 08:42.800 --> 08:45.180 pointed out or YouTube just noticed, hey, 08:45.320 --> 08:48.140 you this isn't yours and you agreed under our terms 08:48.140 --> 08:48.780 to not do that. 08:49.680 --> 08:52.700 But when you see somebody against like the 08:52.700 --> 08:55.040 outcome based arguing, it's like, but I want 08:55.040 --> 08:56.100 everything for free. 08:56.460 --> 08:58.120 And I'm going to pretend it's a philosophy that 08:58.120 --> 09:00.260 makes me entitled to whatever other people made 09:00.260 --> 09:00.740 for free. 09:00.880 --> 09:04.380 I mean, to be entitled for free or whatever 09:04.380 --> 09:05.320 anybody else makes. 09:05.420 --> 09:06.300 And no, you're not. 09:06.480 --> 09:06.920 No, they're not. 09:07.240 --> 09:09.240 They could literally say, hey, I wrote a book 09:09.240 --> 09:10.380 and you have to pay me $1,000. 09:10.920 --> 09:12.880 Read the book in this room and then leave the 09:12.880 --> 09:14.800 book here and leave and don't bring any recording 09:14.800 --> 09:15.700 devices with you. 09:16.080 --> 09:18.040 And almost everybody would rightfully go, 09:18.160 --> 09:18.960 I'm not going to make that deal. 09:19.120 --> 09:20.020 That's really freaking weird. 09:20.140 --> 09:20.880 You're kind of a psycho. 09:21.180 --> 09:24.200 God, you have every right to not make that deal. 09:24.260 --> 09:25.020 They did it. 09:25.080 --> 09:25.240 Yeah. 09:25.360 --> 09:27.280 People do that every day at comedy clubs. 09:27.440 --> 09:28.320 You go to a comedy club. 09:28.500 --> 09:31.300 They require you as part of your agreement 09:31.300 --> 09:33.720 to enter and put your phone in a lock box. 09:34.160 --> 09:35.780 So that nobody can record the performances. 09:36.020 --> 09:36.140 Yeah. 09:36.660 --> 09:37.100 Yeah. 09:37.660 --> 09:39.920 And if you breach that, you're the one in breach of 09:39.920 --> 09:40.360 contract. 09:40.560 --> 09:43.500 And it's like nobody is obligated to provide 09:43.500 --> 09:45.080 you with the fruits of their labor. 09:45.480 --> 09:47.520 Now, there's the thing of, well, once 09:47.520 --> 09:49.460 something's out there, it's like if somebody 09:49.460 --> 09:51.740 goes, oh, look, I found a PDF of, like 09:51.740 --> 09:53.180 there's a PDF of the most dangerous 09:53.180 --> 09:55.960 superstition floating around that didn't 09:55.960 --> 09:56.600 have my permission. 09:56.920 --> 09:58.640 And the thing that most pisses me off 09:58.640 --> 10:00.020 isn't that somebody did that. 10:00.380 --> 10:02.100 It's that after they did the optical 10:02.100 --> 10:03.920 character recognition, they didn't run it 10:03.920 --> 10:04.880 through a spell checker. 10:04.980 --> 10:06.760 So it is all these typos in it that aren't 10:06.760 --> 10:07.240 in the book. 10:07.440 --> 10:10.060 I'm like, you can't even like, I care 10:10.060 --> 10:11.880 so much about spreading this, but I'm 10:11.880 --> 10:13.420 going to let it be a totally crappy 10:13.420 --> 10:13.840 version. 10:14.000 --> 10:15.540 So really, you're just being a jerk. 10:15.940 --> 10:16.100 All right. 10:16.340 --> 10:18.720 So I'll give my quick spiel on it 10:18.720 --> 10:20.420 and take issue with one thing you said. 10:20.600 --> 10:22.560 So this person said, material property 10:22.560 --> 10:24.500 rights are eventually respected through 10:24.500 --> 10:24.920 force. 10:25.300 --> 10:27.380 That is the opposite of how property 10:27.380 --> 10:27.700 works. 10:28.080 --> 10:29.860 Property is respected through consensual 10:29.860 --> 10:30.280 agreement. 10:30.280 --> 10:32.220 The moment the moment force is 10:32.220 --> 10:33.960 involved, even defensive force, 10:34.340 --> 10:36.020 property rights as a concept has 10:36.020 --> 10:37.620 ceased to exist in the situation. 10:38.080 --> 10:39.520 The moment somebody tries to use force 10:39.520 --> 10:41.860 to take or damage your stuff, property 10:41.860 --> 10:42.840 rights doesn't exist. 10:43.240 --> 10:44.840 You're sort of dragged back down into 10:44.840 --> 10:46.420 the state of nature where there is no 10:46.420 --> 10:48.220 sort of right and wrong that the 10:48.220 --> 10:50.240 thief has dragged you there and you 10:50.240 --> 10:51.160 respond in kind. 10:51.500 --> 10:53.500 Property rights aren't operative 10:53.500 --> 10:53.940 anymore. 10:54.280 --> 10:56.360 The thief removed property rights 10:56.360 --> 10:57.060 from the discussion. 10:57.800 --> 10:59.560 So force is when property 10:59.560 --> 11:01.620 rights stop existing, is how 11:01.620 --> 11:02.420 I like to say it. 11:02.680 --> 11:03.540 And then the second thing I would 11:03.540 --> 11:05.100 say is just the quick argument that 11:05.100 --> 11:06.840 I've given a million times for the 11:06.840 --> 11:08.140 absurdity of intellectual property 11:08.140 --> 11:08.460 rights. 11:08.540 --> 11:09.760 I did this one time on my old 11:09.760 --> 11:10.480 this and throw channel. 11:10.640 --> 11:11.240 You can go look it up. 11:11.820 --> 11:13.820 It's like I steal the title of the 11:13.820 --> 11:15.140 video is I steal from you in this 11:15.140 --> 11:17.240 video and what I did is I just 11:17.240 --> 11:17.940 took a piece of paper. 11:18.060 --> 11:18.880 It was a five minute video. 11:18.980 --> 11:19.600 I took a piece of paper. 11:19.700 --> 11:21.220 I drew a stupid clown face on it 11:21.220 --> 11:23.640 and I said, boom, I now have 11:23.640 --> 11:25.480 a portion of control over all of 11:25.480 --> 11:26.880 your property everywhere in the 11:26.880 --> 11:27.180 world. 11:27.540 --> 11:28.700 No matter what kind of property it 11:28.700 --> 11:30.080 is the moment you try to arrange 11:30.080 --> 11:31.020 it to look like this. 11:31.380 --> 11:33.020 I have the ability to point a 11:33.020 --> 11:34.820 government gun at you to stop you 11:34.820 --> 11:35.900 from using your property like 11:35.900 --> 11:36.140 that. 11:36.900 --> 11:39.060 And then I point out the 11:39.060 --> 11:41.060 definition of property is the 11:41.060 --> 11:42.880 right to exclude others from the 11:42.880 --> 11:43.860 use of a thing. 11:44.120 --> 11:45.600 That is what ownership is. 11:45.900 --> 11:48.660 And so if I can exclude you 11:49.290 --> 11:51.120 from the use of your things 11:51.120 --> 11:53.100 right now I could grab a piece 11:53.100 --> 11:54.260 like right now I can do it. 11:54.260 --> 11:54.820 It's magic. 11:55.060 --> 11:56.300 It literally works like this. 11:56.480 --> 11:57.740 Like I'm not making it up. 11:57.840 --> 11:58.240 This is not. 11:58.360 --> 11:59.160 And they don't even have to 11:59.160 --> 11:59.840 know about it. 11:59.860 --> 12:01.300 It just magically works even if 12:01.300 --> 12:02.200 they don't know you do. 12:02.200 --> 12:02.600 Yes. 12:03.660 --> 12:05.360 And I can immediately 12:05.360 --> 12:07.320 magically rob everybody in the 12:07.320 --> 12:09.580 world of a bit of control over 12:09.580 --> 12:11.000 their actual property. 12:11.400 --> 12:13.180 The idea itself is completely 12:13.180 --> 12:14.000 absurd and broken. 12:14.500 --> 12:16.300 So that's my intellectual 12:16.300 --> 12:18.160 property argument. 12:18.660 --> 12:19.220 That's a little surprise. 12:19.540 --> 12:20.740 I mean it's just stupid. 12:20.960 --> 12:22.820 You say it like that and it's 12:22.820 --> 12:24.020 like obviously retarded. 12:24.340 --> 12:24.840 Okay. 12:25.640 --> 12:26.980 The last one that we'll do 12:26.980 --> 12:28.500 today from Mr. Liberty. 12:28.780 --> 12:30.820 He says he she I'm assuming 12:30.820 --> 12:32.200 he Mr. 12:33.040 --> 12:34.320 They them sir. 12:34.700 --> 12:36.980 Why smart people believe 12:36.980 --> 12:37.960 why smart people. 12:38.240 --> 12:39.340 He wants us to talk about this. 12:39.520 --> 12:40.620 Why smart people believe 12:40.620 --> 12:41.640 absurd things. 12:42.260 --> 12:43.360 Not just government. 12:43.600 --> 12:44.920 Why do intelligent people believe 12:44.920 --> 12:47.180 in the flat earth in the 12:47.180 --> 12:49.020 divine right of kings in 12:49.020 --> 12:50.760 which trials state authority 12:50.760 --> 12:51.920 media propaganda. 12:52.320 --> 12:54.140 What mental mechanisms do 12:54.140 --> 12:55.120 they all share? 12:57.180 --> 12:59.920 I shall I barge in first. 13:00.340 --> 13:00.800 Yeah go ahead. 13:01.920 --> 13:04.160 I think by necessity 13:04.160 --> 13:06.360 in a huge number of things 13:06.360 --> 13:08.340 in life we defer to others 13:08.340 --> 13:10.540 because we just we can't 13:10.540 --> 13:11.420 know everything about 13:11.420 --> 13:11.900 everything. 13:12.240 --> 13:14.120 And then we sort of we 13:14.120 --> 13:15.700 inflict the appeal to 13:15.700 --> 13:18.180 authority fallacy on ourselves 13:18.180 --> 13:20.340 by saying well what's wrong 13:20.340 --> 13:20.940 with my car. 13:21.100 --> 13:21.980 I'm going to take it to the 13:21.980 --> 13:23.680 mechanic and say my car is 13:23.680 --> 13:24.260 doing weird shit. 13:24.380 --> 13:24.840 What is it? 13:25.020 --> 13:26.500 Oh your your squonkle 13:26.500 --> 13:28.260 Blinky is on the fritz and we 13:28.260 --> 13:28.940 need to buy it. 13:29.000 --> 13:30.700 And it was like okay I might 13:30.700 --> 13:31.860 decide whether I trust you 13:31.860 --> 13:32.260 or not. 13:32.880 --> 13:34.180 But I don't have the 13:34.180 --> 13:35.280 knowledge to know for sure. 13:35.320 --> 13:36.200 So I'm going to kind of take 13:36.200 --> 13:37.000 your word for it. 13:37.080 --> 13:38.480 And like we do that about a 13:38.480 --> 13:39.720 million things about history. 13:39.860 --> 13:40.740 You read a history book. 13:41.060 --> 13:42.720 Some people are like okay is 13:42.720 --> 13:43.640 this actually accurate. 13:43.760 --> 13:44.780 I'm going to dig into it. 13:45.280 --> 13:46.740 And then they can try to 13:46.740 --> 13:47.320 find out. 13:48.620 --> 13:51.160 But because we sort of out of 13:51.160 --> 13:53.800 necessity shortcut most topics. 13:54.800 --> 13:57.380 I think where where we've never 13:57.380 --> 13:59.680 thought about stuff like most 13:59.680 --> 14:00.740 people have never thought about 14:00.740 --> 14:03.080 the underlying bonkers premise 14:03.080 --> 14:04.300 of political authority. 14:05.000 --> 14:06.560 And so people who are very 14:06.560 --> 14:07.720 intelligent in other ways 14:07.720 --> 14:08.840 suddenly sound like idiots. 14:09.020 --> 14:09.960 We actually talk about this 14:09.960 --> 14:11.860 in candles in the dark where 14:11.860 --> 14:13.200 there's this void because 14:13.200 --> 14:14.180 they've never thought about it 14:14.180 --> 14:15.660 and somebody who's literally a 14:15.660 --> 14:17.240 rocket scientist and you're 14:17.240 --> 14:19.360 like okay how did those people 14:19.360 --> 14:21.060 get a right that you don't have. 14:21.320 --> 14:23.100 And they've never looked at it 14:23.100 --> 14:24.160 and suddenly they seem like 14:24.160 --> 14:25.520 idiots because in that topic 14:25.520 --> 14:27.440 they are idiots because their 14:27.440 --> 14:28.420 brain has no exercise 14:28.420 --> 14:29.420 thinking about that. 14:29.600 --> 14:31.220 And that can be true of you 14:31.220 --> 14:31.980 know there can be brilliant 14:31.980 --> 14:32.840 people who have no freaking 14:32.840 --> 14:34.260 idea how their car works 14:34.260 --> 14:35.240 or how their phone works 14:35.240 --> 14:35.760 or whatever. 14:36.220 --> 14:37.220 They're brilliant in other 14:37.220 --> 14:38.140 areas. 14:38.820 --> 14:40.400 And I think that's almost all 14:40.400 --> 14:40.900 of us. 14:41.920 --> 14:44.060 The challenge is being someone 14:44.060 --> 14:47.220 who understands all the 14:47.220 --> 14:48.660 ways in which you're kind of 14:48.660 --> 14:49.980 taking some crap for granted. 14:50.380 --> 14:51.120 Like all right. 14:51.180 --> 14:52.080 I don't know this. 14:52.320 --> 14:53.660 I assume that this is the 14:53.660 --> 14:54.980 like I said this about the 14:54.980 --> 14:56.160 moon landing for a pretty long 14:56.160 --> 14:56.400 time. 14:56.580 --> 14:58.180 Like I won't say I know for 14:58.180 --> 14:58.900 sure it happened. 14:59.260 --> 15:00.820 It might have been easier to 15:00.820 --> 15:01.980 fake it than to do it. 15:02.020 --> 15:03.220 Now I think I have reason to 15:03.220 --> 15:04.660 say now I can happen. 15:05.420 --> 15:06.760 But I don't care whether 15:06.760 --> 15:07.600 people agree with that. 15:08.220 --> 15:09.300 The earth being flat. 15:09.500 --> 15:10.320 I know it isn't. 15:10.440 --> 15:12.600 I can prove my by myself 15:12.600 --> 15:14.040 not having to believe NASA 15:14.040 --> 15:15.200 that it isn't in fact 15:15.700 --> 15:16.920 someday I hope to use that 15:16.920 --> 15:19.100 backyard to do a 24 hour 15:19.100 --> 15:20.480 thing that all the way proves 15:20.480 --> 15:21.420 it so that anyone paying 15:21.420 --> 15:22.320 attention is going to see 15:22.320 --> 15:22.620 that. 15:23.240 --> 15:24.800 But if people haven't thought 15:24.800 --> 15:25.680 about it like most people 15:25.680 --> 15:27.060 haven't like I think we were 15:27.060 --> 15:28.200 just talking about this that 15:28.200 --> 15:29.500 most people are obviously 15:29.500 --> 15:30.260 it's round. 15:30.660 --> 15:31.920 You know how to prove it. 15:32.220 --> 15:33.160 Well no but everybody 15:33.160 --> 15:34.540 know okay well then you 15:34.540 --> 15:35.540 believed one thing and they 15:35.540 --> 15:36.420 believed another thing. 15:36.440 --> 15:37.140 Neither of you know 15:37.140 --> 15:37.520 anything. 15:37.960 --> 15:39.320 You're not knowing 15:39.320 --> 15:40.520 something unless you know 15:40.520 --> 15:41.640 how to prove it. 15:42.100 --> 15:43.860 And my dad was a teacher for 15:43.860 --> 15:44.980 a zillion years and he 15:44.980 --> 15:45.920 made sure his students 15:45.920 --> 15:47.800 actually knew how to prove 15:47.800 --> 15:48.840 things and figure things out 15:48.840 --> 15:49.440 for themselves. 15:49.800 --> 15:51.320 So it isn't a matter of taking 15:51.320 --> 15:52.620 other people's word for it. 15:52.900 --> 15:55.060 But in most of life you kind 15:55.060 --> 15:56.360 of have to take other people's 15:56.360 --> 15:57.820 word for pretty many things. 15:58.520 --> 15:59.660 I think the challenge is 15:59.660 --> 16:01.460 having people be aware of all 16:01.460 --> 16:02.960 the areas in which you just 16:02.960 --> 16:04.220 took somebody else's word for 16:04.220 --> 16:05.020 it because you didn't have 16:05.020 --> 16:06.880 the time to question it. 16:07.440 --> 16:08.360 And that's I mean that's 16:08.360 --> 16:09.660 totally true of politics is 16:09.660 --> 16:11.100 true of a gazillion things. 16:11.980 --> 16:14.380 I think the the you know 16:14.380 --> 16:15.900 the beginning of wisdom is 16:15.900 --> 16:17.600 understanding how little you 16:17.600 --> 16:20.520 know about anything and how 16:20.520 --> 16:21.800 much you just well I assume 16:21.800 --> 16:22.920 this is the case I've never 16:22.920 --> 16:24.000 really looked into I assume 16:24.000 --> 16:24.880 that's the case I've never 16:24.880 --> 16:25.800 really looked into it. 16:25.920 --> 16:26.860 I assume that it's this 16:26.860 --> 16:30.980 and most people don't do 16:30.980 --> 16:32.180 that they like to think they 16:32.180 --> 16:33.980 know and they confuse like 16:33.980 --> 16:35.640 you spoke you just spoke about 16:35.640 --> 16:35.840 it. 16:36.000 --> 16:38.880 Literally just did the 16:38.880 --> 16:40.040 difference between belief 16:40.040 --> 16:40.580 and knowing. 16:40.920 --> 16:42.040 Go to the road channel.com 16:42.040 --> 16:42.440 Yeah. 16:44.420 --> 16:45.880 Maybe once I'll remember 16:45.880 --> 16:47.580 to promote my own website 16:47.580 --> 16:48.980 and all these videos we're 16:48.980 --> 16:49.140 doing. 16:49.360 --> 16:49.960 I got you. 16:50.280 --> 16:50.340 Yeah. 16:51.020 --> 16:52.420 I'll just have you do it. 16:52.420 --> 16:53.060 I'll delegate. 16:53.580 --> 16:55.220 I delegate that to you. 16:55.900 --> 16:57.940 But just being aware of how 16:57.940 --> 16:59.620 little we know is like a really 16:59.620 --> 17:00.480 important thing that most 17:00.480 --> 17:01.560 people don't bother doing 17:01.560 --> 17:02.960 because like well my focus is 17:02.960 --> 17:03.940 over here I'm like studying 17:03.940 --> 17:04.900 the hell out of computer 17:04.900 --> 17:06.440 programming or out of biology 17:06.440 --> 17:07.940 or whatever it is. 17:08.760 --> 17:09.640 When it comes to that other 17:09.640 --> 17:10.740 stuff I don't know I vaguely 17:10.740 --> 17:11.680 remember the stuff that 17:11.680 --> 17:12.540 everybody knows. 17:13.580 --> 17:15.400 And so there isn't such 17:15.400 --> 17:17.820 thing as well your brain works 17:17.820 --> 17:18.400 very well. 17:18.560 --> 17:19.500 You're intelligent therefore 17:19.500 --> 17:20.360 you know everything. 17:20.660 --> 17:20.840 No. 17:21.040 --> 17:22.280 Like you have the capacity 17:22.280 --> 17:23.100 to learn stuff. 17:23.680 --> 17:24.660 Like your brain function 17:24.660 --> 17:26.580 being good doesn't magically 17:26.580 --> 17:27.440 mean you have all the 17:27.440 --> 17:28.540 information and have thought 17:28.540 --> 17:29.200 about all that. 17:29.520 --> 17:31.140 And I think pretty much all 17:31.140 --> 17:33.240 of us presumably myself 17:33.240 --> 17:35.300 included believe some stuff 17:35.300 --> 17:36.720 that's dumb and totally wrong 17:36.720 --> 17:37.780 that we haven't bothered to 17:37.780 --> 17:38.900 look at yet and it may 17:38.900 --> 17:40.320 matter more or matter less 17:40.320 --> 17:42.540 and like okay some things 17:42.540 --> 17:43.100 who cares. 17:43.880 --> 17:45.340 But I think having the 17:45.340 --> 17:47.280 wisdom to realize how much 17:47.280 --> 17:48.360 we don't actually know 17:48.360 --> 17:49.120 because we've never thought 17:49.120 --> 17:51.220 about it is sadly a rare 17:52.140 --> 17:53.320 thing in a lot of people 17:53.320 --> 17:54.720 including people with very 17:54.720 --> 17:56.700 powerful brains that know 17:56.700 --> 17:57.800 a whole lot and can do a 17:57.800 --> 17:59.520 whole lot in certain areas 17:59.520 --> 18:00.940 but not in everything. 18:01.980 --> 18:03.700 Yeah and like I ranted 18:03.700 --> 18:04.720 people all the time you 18:04.720 --> 18:05.500 guys are probably tired of 18:05.500 --> 18:06.280 hearing me talk about it. 18:06.300 --> 18:07.920 Like you should be proud 18:07.920 --> 18:09.500 and happy to say I don't 18:09.500 --> 18:09.720 know. 18:11.280 --> 18:12.920 And what I don't say often 18:12.920 --> 18:14.160 enough is what he just said 18:14.160 --> 18:15.080 and that's why I won't go into 18:15.080 --> 18:16.180 it all but it's like it's 18:16.180 --> 18:18.340 okay to also say that you 18:18.340 --> 18:19.940 don't know about popular 18:19.940 --> 18:21.500 topics that everybody thinks 18:22.320 --> 18:23.800 the matter is settled on. 18:24.120 --> 18:25.840 Like it's okay to say 18:25.840 --> 18:27.560 I don't know if the 18:27.560 --> 18:28.380 moon landing happened 18:28.380 --> 18:30.060 because I haven't looked into 18:30.060 --> 18:30.320 it. 18:30.600 --> 18:32.040 I have no research time on 18:32.040 --> 18:32.220 it. 18:32.700 --> 18:33.800 Yeah sure a lot of 18:33.800 --> 18:34.820 scientists in credible 18:34.820 --> 18:36.020 positions say it happened 18:36.020 --> 18:37.000 but I didn't look. 18:37.440 --> 18:38.120 So I'm going to say 18:38.120 --> 18:38.660 I don't know. 18:38.820 --> 18:39.700 Ask somebody that fucking 18:39.700 --> 18:40.720 knows or that did the 18:40.720 --> 18:41.140 research. 18:41.140 --> 18:42.600 Like that's fine. 18:42.840 --> 18:43.100 Yeah. 18:43.360 --> 18:44.340 It's fine to just say 18:44.340 --> 18:44.920 I don't know. 18:45.200 --> 18:45.800 Okay so 18:45.800 --> 18:47.200 I'll throw in one more thing. 18:47.320 --> 18:47.680 Yeah go ahead. 18:47.800 --> 18:48.480 One of the smartest paper 18:48.480 --> 18:49.840 I know is my older brother 18:49.840 --> 18:50.180 Sean. 18:51.360 --> 18:53.200 And a thing he's said on 18:53.200 --> 18:54.560 many an occasion is 18:55.220 --> 18:56.820 one of my favorite things is 18:56.820 --> 18:57.840 finding out I'm wrong. 18:58.620 --> 18:58.980 Yes. 18:59.320 --> 19:00.340 Because that's when you 19:00.340 --> 19:01.340 learn something new. 19:01.920 --> 19:03.240 And you can't find out if 19:03.240 --> 19:04.180 you're wrong if it's like 19:04.180 --> 19:05.320 I believe this and I don't 19:05.320 --> 19:06.100 want to hear anything to 19:06.100 --> 19:06.540 the contrary. 19:07.300 --> 19:08.560 It's like well I assume 19:08.560 --> 19:09.900 this if you have something 19:09.900 --> 19:11.660 to offer like doesn't mean I'm 19:11.660 --> 19:13.360 going to accept whatever you 19:13.360 --> 19:17.000 say but learning necessarily 19:17.580 --> 19:19.200 means your knowledge of what 19:19.200 --> 19:20.120 you had before was either 19:20.120 --> 19:21.500 wrong or at least incomplete. 19:22.180 --> 19:23.760 And if you like to learn 19:23.760 --> 19:26.140 you need to like to be wrong 19:26.140 --> 19:27.680 and find out that you were 19:27.680 --> 19:28.980 wrong or at least incomplete 19:28.980 --> 19:29.600 about something. 19:29.600 --> 19:30.460 You have to train yourself 19:30.460 --> 19:31.740 to be happy when you find 19:31.740 --> 19:32.300 out you're wrong. 19:32.420 --> 19:32.620 Yeah. 19:33.020 --> 19:33.900 And that's why he says 19:33.900 --> 19:35.280 I love finding out I was 19:35.280 --> 19:35.560 wrong. 19:35.700 --> 19:36.640 It's really hard to get 19:36.640 --> 19:36.880 there. 19:36.880 --> 19:37.160 Yeah. 19:37.160 --> 19:37.800 It really is. 19:38.100 --> 19:38.220 Yeah. 19:38.340 --> 19:39.920 It still stings even I've 19:39.920 --> 19:40.800 tried to get myself there 19:40.800 --> 19:41.460 but it still stings. 19:41.620 --> 19:42.240 I'm like oh shit. 19:42.420 --> 19:42.640 Yeah. 19:42.740 --> 19:43.180 I'm wrong. 19:43.480 --> 19:43.820 Okay. 19:43.920 --> 19:44.480 Okay Patrick. 19:44.640 --> 19:45.460 Okay step out of it. 19:45.460 --> 19:46.340 Thank the person. 19:46.620 --> 19:47.700 You know be appreciative. 19:48.940 --> 19:49.340 Indeed. 19:49.720 --> 19:51.320 Kill my ego some bat 19:51.320 --> 19:52.960 bat my ego in the head again. 19:53.140 --> 19:53.940 Get out of there. 19:54.240 --> 19:54.560 Yeah. 19:54.960 --> 19:55.120 Okay. 19:55.220 --> 19:56.240 So I want to talk about 19:56.240 --> 19:57.540 to answer your question of 19:57.540 --> 19:59.060 why intelligent people believe 19:59.520 --> 20:00.220 dumb things. 20:00.440 --> 20:01.200 Number one I give a whole 20:01.200 --> 20:02.460 talk about this at Anarkapoco 20:02.460 --> 20:03.700 two years ago. 20:04.220 --> 20:05.980 It was literally included 20:05.980 --> 20:07.580 a whole thing about that 20:07.580 --> 20:09.040 but I'll give you the quick 20:09.040 --> 20:10.340 a super quick version. 20:10.560 --> 20:11.480 There's two biases 20:12.680 --> 20:14.180 and one mental 20:14.660 --> 20:15.720 technique that 20:16.440 --> 20:17.480 is what happened. 20:17.580 --> 20:18.160 The first is confirmation 20:18.160 --> 20:18.660 bias. 20:18.920 --> 20:19.840 Most people don't know 20:19.840 --> 20:20.900 that our brain 20:20.900 --> 20:21.820 that confirmation bias 20:21.820 --> 20:23.340 how the human brain works. 20:23.580 --> 20:26.200 It literally subconsciously 20:26.200 --> 20:27.420 that means that your 20:27.420 --> 20:28.920 your conscious mind 20:28.920 --> 20:30.020 your thinking rational 20:30.020 --> 20:32.180 mind has no idea it's 20:32.180 --> 20:32.400 happening. 20:32.560 --> 20:33.580 Your subconscious mind 20:33.580 --> 20:35.360 actively hides 20:35.360 --> 20:36.960 incoming information 20:36.960 --> 20:38.120 from your conscious mind 20:38.120 --> 20:40.100 when it disagrees with your 20:40.100 --> 20:41.140 with your already 20:41.140 --> 20:43.120 preconceived notions or your beliefs. 20:43.460 --> 20:45.200 So like you can be in a room 20:45.200 --> 20:46.040 and people are talking 20:46.040 --> 20:47.300 and one of the people in the room 20:47.300 --> 20:48.760 you know provides some kind of 20:48.760 --> 20:50.000 evidence against one of your 20:50.000 --> 20:50.800 preconceived notions 20:50.800 --> 20:52.000 and people will literally 20:52.000 --> 20:52.900 not hear 20:52.900 --> 20:54.180 just filter it out. 20:54.220 --> 20:55.100 They won't even notice 20:55.100 --> 20:56.200 that that person said it 20:56.200 --> 20:57.080 because their subconscious 20:57.080 --> 20:57.920 filters it out. 20:58.300 --> 20:59.400 Confirmation bias is 21:00.460 --> 21:01.360 existentially terrifying 21:01.360 --> 21:02.720 for people that are trying 21:02.720 --> 21:04.760 to know as many true things as they 21:04.760 --> 21:06.700 can and know as few false things 21:06.700 --> 21:07.260 as they can. 21:07.400 --> 21:08.520 It's like your subconscious is 21:08.520 --> 21:11.160 actively an anti-wisdom 21:11.860 --> 21:12.900 mechanism because 21:12.900 --> 21:14.660 there's something evolution or 21:14.660 --> 21:16.840 something where your brain 21:16.840 --> 21:18.260 just wants you to be right 21:18.260 --> 21:20.880 and things that say you're 21:20.880 --> 21:22.740 not right or scary or some kind 21:22.740 --> 21:23.440 of I don't know like 21:23.440 --> 21:24.680 existentially threatening. 21:25.000 --> 21:26.800 I think that hey this time I'm 21:26.800 --> 21:27.780 going to remember the rose channel 21:27.780 --> 21:29.720 dot com slash humanity book 21:29.720 --> 21:31.040 my new book on mound 21:31.040 --> 21:32.780 talks about the fact that 21:32.780 --> 21:35.040 if you're a species that 21:35.040 --> 21:36.060 is very social 21:36.060 --> 21:36.980 and gets along 21:36.980 --> 21:38.880 there is a big incentive 21:38.880 --> 21:40.920 to not be something that doesn't 21:40.920 --> 21:42.140 match the crowd and annoys other 21:42.140 --> 21:43.480 people and disagrees with them 21:43.480 --> 21:44.840 and I think that's 21:44.840 --> 21:46.500 at least a simplified version 21:46.500 --> 21:47.760 of the genetic reason 21:47.760 --> 21:49.540 why we want to fit in 21:49.540 --> 21:50.260 like the ash 21:50.260 --> 21:51.260 the Solomon ash 21:51.260 --> 21:52.740 conformity experiments 21:52.740 --> 21:54.220 of like yeah I'm going to 21:54.220 --> 21:55.200 pretend I believe that 21:55.200 --> 21:56.160 because I don't want to be 21:56.160 --> 21:57.280 surrounded by like 21:57.280 --> 21:57.980 you're not going to see a 21:57.980 --> 21:59.100 computer do that 21:59.100 --> 22:00.800 like well two plus two is 22:00.800 --> 22:02.140 what are the other computers 22:02.140 --> 22:04.260 think like it just does 22:04.260 --> 22:06.240 the math and we don't 22:06.240 --> 22:07.460 because there's so much 22:07.460 --> 22:09.720 weirdly wired in pressure to 22:09.720 --> 22:12.760 I need my pack to be alive 22:12.760 --> 22:14.420 like for me to be alive 22:14.420 --> 22:15.640 I need my pack 22:15.640 --> 22:17.300 and so I want to make 22:17.300 --> 22:18.400 sure I'm buddies with them 22:18.400 --> 22:19.540 and that matters more than 22:19.540 --> 22:21.400 knowing if things are true 22:21.400 --> 22:23.100 or anything else 22:23.100 --> 22:24.380 I will go along with the 22:24.380 --> 22:25.480 pack because I need them 22:25.480 --> 22:26.740 to avoid dying 22:26.740 --> 22:29.060 and that having been wired 22:29.060 --> 22:30.360 into us and I mean 22:30.360 --> 22:31.820 lots of species for many 22:31.820 --> 22:33.320 many millions of years 22:33.320 --> 22:35.920 make creates an incentive 22:35.920 --> 22:38.040 for us to not learn anything 22:38.040 --> 22:40.200 that doesn't fit with what 22:40.200 --> 22:41.300 the people around us believe 22:41.300 --> 22:42.260 here's an example 22:42.260 --> 22:43.220 I know it's I know 22:43.220 --> 22:43.960 every one of you 22:43.960 --> 22:44.940 have experienced this 22:44.940 --> 22:45.920 you may not have actually 22:45.920 --> 22:47.220 actively realized it happened 22:47.220 --> 22:49.120 someone made an argument 22:49.120 --> 22:49.620 to you 22:49.620 --> 22:50.660 maybe it was like 22:50.660 --> 22:51.940 in rigorous like premise 22:51.940 --> 22:53.080 premise conclusion form 22:53.080 --> 22:54.100 but maybe it doesn't 22:54.100 --> 22:54.780 even matter right 22:54.780 --> 22:55.460 they could have just been 22:55.460 --> 22:56.400 talking to you explaining 22:56.400 --> 22:57.200 a set of ideas 22:57.200 --> 22:58.900 to prove you wrong 22:59.340 --> 23:00.800 and what you did in response 23:00.800 --> 23:02.940 was you responded by 23:03.360 --> 23:04.900 attacking something else 23:04.900 --> 23:05.780 something unrelated 23:05.780 --> 23:07.380 you changed the subject 23:07.380 --> 23:08.140 you 23:10.140 --> 23:12.020 argued about their semantics 23:12.020 --> 23:12.980 the words they use 23:12.980 --> 23:15.100 the definitions that they chose 23:15.100 --> 23:17.040 or like you didn't 23:17.040 --> 23:18.340 charitably 23:19.200 --> 23:20.100 take in 23:20.100 --> 23:21.380 and let their argument 23:21.380 --> 23:23.080 slam into you full force 23:23.080 --> 23:24.100 you kind of sidestepped 23:24.100 --> 23:24.640 you're like okay 23:24.640 --> 23:25.800 well the way you said that 23:25.800 --> 23:26.700 was abrasive 23:26.700 --> 23:27.700 or you know 23:27.700 --> 23:28.400 the words you use 23:28.400 --> 23:29.140 or misspelled 23:29.140 --> 23:30.180 or your punctuation 23:30.180 --> 23:31.600 your grammar was off 23:31.600 --> 23:32.660 or you know 23:32.660 --> 23:33.560 or you maybe just 23:34.120 --> 23:34.760 I don't know 23:34.760 --> 23:36.280 tactically switched topics 23:36.280 --> 23:37.700 or moved the conversation 23:37.700 --> 23:38.660 on to something else 23:38.660 --> 23:40.120 and what that is 23:40.740 --> 23:41.540 it's not like 23:41.540 --> 23:42.760 it's not always bad faith 23:42.760 --> 23:43.780 although if you're the one 23:43.780 --> 23:44.840 making the argument to somebody 23:44.840 --> 23:45.500 and they do that 23:45.500 --> 23:46.640 it really feels bad 23:46.640 --> 23:47.980 but what it is 23:47.980 --> 23:49.460 it's their brain sliding 23:49.960 --> 23:51.400 around the thing 23:51.400 --> 23:52.420 that it didn't want 23:52.420 --> 23:53.080 you to notice 23:53.080 --> 23:53.980 yeah 23:53.980 --> 23:55.860 and it happened 23:55.860 --> 23:56.320 yeah 23:56.320 --> 23:57.240 we talked about 23:57.240 --> 23:58.140 exactly this 23:58.140 --> 23:59.220 in candles in the dark 23:59.220 --> 24:00.460 and like the 24:00.460 --> 24:01.420 the Marauds thing 24:01.420 --> 24:02.620 we use as an example 24:02.620 --> 24:04.820 it feels like an evasion 24:05.600 --> 24:07.360 and if you follow them 24:07.360 --> 24:08.160 in that direction 24:08.160 --> 24:09.440 you miss the fact that 24:09.440 --> 24:11.200 they part of them felt 24:11.200 --> 24:12.520 the cognitive dissonance 24:12.520 --> 24:13.840 of this is feeling uncomfortable 24:13.840 --> 24:15.100 and I don't know what to say 24:15.100 --> 24:16.120 and the brain 24:16.120 --> 24:17.480 subconsciously is looking 24:17.480 --> 24:18.600 for any escape route 24:18.600 --> 24:19.920 whether it's like 24:19.920 --> 24:20.820 oh I'm late for dinner 24:20.820 --> 24:21.220 or 24:21.220 --> 24:22.960 I don't like your hair cut 24:22.960 --> 24:24.320 or anything 24:24.320 --> 24:25.320 and yeah 24:25.320 --> 24:25.900 most of the time 24:25.900 --> 24:26.540 they're not aware of 24:26.540 --> 24:27.280 they're doing it 24:27.280 --> 24:29.120 they're not doing it maliciously 24:29.120 --> 24:30.240 but it's 24:30.240 --> 24:31.760 and we explained in candles in dark 24:31.760 --> 24:32.620 it can be frustrating 24:32.620 --> 24:33.200 because it's like 24:33.200 --> 24:34.280 you cannot be this dumb 24:34.280 --> 24:35.200 you're somebody I know 24:35.200 --> 24:36.100 you have the ability 24:36.100 --> 24:36.960 to use logic 24:36.960 --> 24:38.140 how come when I said 24:38.140 --> 24:39.520 2 x 2 equals 4 24:39.520 --> 24:39.940 you said 24:39.940 --> 24:40.820 what about the roads 24:40.820 --> 24:41.460 like that 24:41.460 --> 24:42.040 how did you 24:42.620 --> 24:43.760 they don't get 24:43.760 --> 24:45.080 that their own brain 24:45.080 --> 24:45.580 does that 24:45.580 --> 24:46.360 because that's just 24:46.360 --> 24:47.400 wired into us 24:47.400 --> 24:48.240 for some damn reason 24:48.240 --> 24:49.260 confirmation by us 24:49.260 --> 24:49.500 yeah 24:49.500 --> 24:50.540 that it's 24:50.540 --> 24:52.360 their brain is trying 24:52.360 --> 24:53.340 to get to something 24:53.340 --> 24:54.020 that's comfortable 24:54.020 --> 24:54.680 to talk about 24:54.680 --> 24:56.080 and so every time 24:56.080 --> 24:56.660 they go to 24:57.140 --> 24:58.620 okay but how will this work 24:58.620 --> 24:59.200 when you're like 24:59.200 --> 25:00.520 like government can't have 25:00.520 --> 25:01.800 rights that we don't have 25:01.800 --> 25:02.500 because how would we 25:02.500 --> 25:04.240 okay but how will this work 25:04.240 --> 25:04.760 that is 25:04.760 --> 25:05.860 they're comfortable 25:05.860 --> 25:06.940 looking at 25:06.940 --> 25:07.720 and talking about 25:07.720 --> 25:08.540 that question 25:08.540 --> 25:10.140 they're not comfortable 25:10.140 --> 25:10.900 thinking about 25:10.900 --> 25:12.440 wait so the premise 25:12.440 --> 25:13.540 of this major thing 25:13.540 --> 25:14.000 I've believed 25:14.000 --> 25:14.840 and taken on faith 25:14.840 --> 25:16.140 my whole life might be wrong 25:16.840 --> 25:17.800 that's uncomfortable 25:17.800 --> 25:18.360 and difficult 25:18.360 --> 25:19.360 and I have to like focus 25:19.360 --> 25:19.920 and stuff 25:19.920 --> 25:21.000 can we move the conversation 25:21.000 --> 25:22.140 over to literally 25:22.740 --> 25:23.480 anything else 25:24.260 --> 25:25.560 just so I don't have to feel 25:25.560 --> 25:26.260 that discomfort 25:26.260 --> 25:27.300 so in candles in the dark 25:27.300 --> 25:28.540 we teach you how to nudge back 25:28.540 --> 25:29.360 to the discomfort 25:30.220 --> 25:31.460 because that's the only time 25:31.460 --> 25:32.400 you know people actually 25:32.400 --> 25:33.040 think about things 25:33.040 --> 25:33.820 and change their mind 25:34.300 --> 25:35.180 they're not doing it 25:35.180 --> 25:35.600 on purpose 25:35.600 --> 25:36.700 the vast majority of time 25:36.700 --> 25:37.700 and they don't even notice 25:37.700 --> 25:38.480 they're doing it 25:38.480 --> 25:39.760 they will change the 25:39.760 --> 25:40.080 subject 25:40.080 --> 25:41.020 and we'll say this 25:41.020 --> 25:41.820 still like you ask 25:41.820 --> 25:43.240 here's a specific question 25:43.240 --> 25:44.860 and instead of answering 25:44.860 --> 25:45.420 the question 25:45.420 --> 25:46.760 they'll answer some sort of 25:46.760 --> 25:47.800 tangential thing 25:47.800 --> 25:48.460 and you're like yeah 25:48.460 --> 25:49.460 I know but that's not 25:49.460 --> 25:50.100 what I asked 25:50.100 --> 25:50.840 and you're like 25:50.840 --> 25:51.680 is this idiot 25:51.680 --> 25:52.980 can they not understand 25:52.980 --> 25:53.680 basic English 25:53.680 --> 25:54.980 they absolutely can 25:54.980 --> 25:56.180 but their subconscious is like 25:56.180 --> 25:57.000 we don't really want to 25:57.000 --> 25:57.480 answer that 25:57.480 --> 25:58.820 let's pretend he asked this 25:59.520 --> 26:00.520 and so they 26:00.520 --> 26:01.080 it's just 26:01.080 --> 26:01.840 it's this weird 26:01.840 --> 26:02.720 defense mechanism 26:02.720 --> 26:04.020 to avoid the discomfort 26:04.020 --> 26:05.400 of cognitive dissonance 26:05.400 --> 26:06.940 and if we don't 26:06.940 --> 26:07.940 make an effort 26:07.940 --> 26:09.040 to go no 26:09.040 --> 26:09.880 I want to be back 26:09.880 --> 26:11.060 in cognitive dissonance 26:11.060 --> 26:12.760 to make sure I'm right 26:13.420 --> 26:14.060 then we 26:14.060 --> 26:14.960 start looking like 26:14.960 --> 26:15.420 it is too 26:15.960 --> 26:16.980 we're talking to 26:16.980 --> 26:17.660 one more thing 26:17.660 --> 26:18.980 and I'll go to my other stuff 26:18.980 --> 26:20.200 this is great 26:20.200 --> 26:21.180 this is great content 26:21.180 --> 26:21.600 for you guys 26:21.600 --> 26:22.380 I hope you're enjoying it 26:22.380 --> 26:23.960 so another thing 26:23.960 --> 26:24.980 to think about 26:24.980 --> 26:26.500 is I want you to imagine 26:26.500 --> 26:28.200 a parent raising a child 26:28.200 --> 26:30.080 but they're raising them 26:30.080 --> 26:31.400 to believe just 26:31.400 --> 26:32.380 crazy things 26:32.380 --> 26:33.120 about the world 26:33.120 --> 26:33.900 you know 26:33.900 --> 26:34.900 I don't even 26:34.900 --> 26:35.560 I can't even imagine 26:35.560 --> 26:36.440 what the crazy things are 26:36.440 --> 26:37.860 but just things that are like 26:37.860 --> 26:39.360 so dangerous 26:39.360 --> 26:40.620 and absurdly wrong 26:40.620 --> 26:42.280 and inaccurate about reality 26:42.700 --> 26:43.520 but the kid 26:43.520 --> 26:45.320 like I said in a previous video 26:45.320 --> 26:46.460 that you probably already watched 26:46.460 --> 26:47.360 where we talked about parenting 26:47.360 --> 26:48.900 we as humans 26:48.900 --> 26:49.940 accept the reality 26:49.940 --> 26:51.280 with which we're presented 26:51.280 --> 26:52.420 when we enter the world 26:52.420 --> 26:53.240 right and so a kid 26:53.240 --> 26:54.280 being raised in that environment 26:54.280 --> 26:55.560 will believe every 26:55.560 --> 26:56.700 line of nonsense 26:56.700 --> 26:57.720 and inaccuracy 26:58.060 --> 26:59.480 even dangerous inaccuracies 26:59.480 --> 27:00.640 that their parents teach them 27:00.640 --> 27:01.140 when they're kids 27:01.140 --> 27:02.920 and then when they become adults 27:02.920 --> 27:04.580 imagine a guy like me 27:04.580 --> 27:05.540 or Larkin coming along 27:05.540 --> 27:07.100 and trying to 27:07.100 --> 27:08.440 introduce them 27:08.440 --> 27:09.460 to actual reality 27:09.460 --> 27:11.740 they react emotionally 27:11.740 --> 27:13.280 because you're not attacking 27:13.280 --> 27:14.160 their beliefs 27:14.160 --> 27:15.380 as much as you're attacking 27:15.380 --> 27:16.340 their parents 27:16.340 --> 27:17.400 their parents 27:17.400 --> 27:18.680 their most trusted people 27:18.680 --> 27:19.840 the humans that they trust 27:19.840 --> 27:20.680 with their lives 27:20.680 --> 27:22.240 they were raised by 27:22.240 --> 27:23.640 were taught 27:23.640 --> 27:24.700 this set of beliefs 27:24.700 --> 27:26.620 obviously this is an analogy 27:26.620 --> 27:27.580 for statism right 27:27.580 --> 27:28.140 like all 27:28.140 --> 27:29.760 we're all brought up believing 27:29.760 --> 27:30.960 these crazy 27:31.560 --> 27:33.300 wild conspiracy theories 27:33.300 --> 27:34.500 about the just authority 27:34.500 --> 27:35.100 of the government 27:35.100 --> 27:35.980 in our lives 27:35.980 --> 27:36.620 and blah blah blah 27:36.620 --> 27:37.420 and then we have a guy 27:37.420 --> 27:39.080 like me or Larkin come along 27:39.080 --> 27:40.300 and we start poking 27:40.300 --> 27:40.860 a stick 27:40.860 --> 27:42.060 in the eye 27:42.060 --> 27:43.080 of their parents 27:43.080 --> 27:44.100 right 27:44.100 --> 27:45.480 because for us to be right 27:45.480 --> 27:46.560 their parents 27:46.560 --> 27:47.260 would have to 27:47.260 --> 27:49.060 almost be maliciously wrong 27:49.060 --> 27:50.040 like bad 27:50.680 --> 27:51.240 people 27:51.240 --> 27:51.780 right 27:51.780 --> 27:53.160 for raising a kid 27:53.160 --> 27:54.720 with such false beliefs 27:55.720 --> 27:57.180 I have to throw in 27:57.180 --> 27:58.240 a thing I deliberately 27:58.240 --> 27:59.100 started doing 27:59.100 --> 27:59.760 with Alyssa 27:59.760 --> 28:01.300 when she was very young 28:01.300 --> 28:02.300 is when she would 28:02.300 --> 28:03.100 ask about things 28:03.100 --> 28:04.520 I'd give her an answer 28:04.520 --> 28:05.440 that was totally wrong 28:05.440 --> 28:06.880 and pretty dumb enough 28:06.880 --> 28:08.240 that she would go 28:08.240 --> 28:09.760 wait what 28:09.760 --> 28:11.340 I do that with my kids company 28:12.140 --> 28:13.420 so she would get 28:13.420 --> 28:14.180 in the habit 28:14.180 --> 28:15.640 of not taking my word 28:15.640 --> 28:15.980 for it 28:15.980 --> 28:16.740 and go that can't be 28:16.740 --> 28:17.380 and then 28:17.380 --> 28:18.400 I started doing 28:18.980 --> 28:20.740 Jaws bad science show 28:20.740 --> 28:22.160 like when we're on a long road 28:22.160 --> 28:22.900 trip and make up 28:22.900 --> 28:23.760 like the worst explanations 28:24.320 --> 28:24.960 for the 28:25.620 --> 28:27.280 observations of things around us 28:27.280 --> 28:28.880 but I think that's really valuable 28:28.880 --> 28:29.760 even though it's 28:29.760 --> 28:30.340 sort of weird 28:30.340 --> 28:32.220 it's hilarious that you do that too 28:32.220 --> 28:32.780 my kids are 28:32.780 --> 28:34.120 my kids are ungaslightable now 28:34.120 --> 28:34.580 yeah 28:35.060 --> 28:36.300 to see if like 28:36.300 --> 28:37.220 are you paying attention 28:37.220 --> 28:38.360 or taking my word for it 28:38.360 --> 28:40.060 that can't be right 28:40.060 --> 28:41.400 good it isn't 28:42.780 --> 28:43.860 anyway the point is 28:43.860 --> 28:44.600 that was to give you 28:44.600 --> 28:45.380 a point of empathy 28:45.380 --> 28:46.560 right when they react 28:46.560 --> 28:47.400 emotionally especially 28:47.400 --> 28:48.400 because there's some people 28:48.400 --> 28:49.560 that are mature 28:49.560 --> 28:50.320 and they're able to handle 28:50.320 --> 28:51.760 conversations they just agree with 28:51.760 --> 28:52.520 but some people 28:52.520 --> 28:53.380 you talk to about this stuff 28:53.380 --> 28:54.180 and they just get like 28:54.180 --> 28:55.340 strangely out of nowhere 28:55.340 --> 28:55.840 they're like 28:56.340 --> 28:56.940 really angry 28:56.940 --> 28:57.620 so 28:58.280 --> 28:58.680 flustered 28:59.260 --> 28:59.900 what's happening 28:59.900 --> 29:01.640 is you're 29:01.640 --> 29:02.740 attacking their parents 29:02.740 --> 29:03.400 in a lot of ways 29:03.400 --> 29:04.380 at least that's how I see it 29:04.380 --> 29:04.820 so I'm like 29:04.820 --> 29:05.740 I'm chill with that 29:05.740 --> 29:06.340 I'm like hey man 29:06.340 --> 29:06.800 no big deal 29:07.380 --> 29:07.820 yeah 29:08.340 --> 29:09.080 anyway alright so 29:09.080 --> 29:10.100 that was the first bias 29:10.100 --> 29:10.800 confirmation bias 29:10.800 --> 29:11.580 the second bias is 29:11.580 --> 29:12.240 my side bias 29:12.240 --> 29:13.360 this is the one I talked about 29:13.360 --> 29:14.360 at his 29:14.860 --> 29:15.300 event 29:15.780 --> 29:17.280 that you can go watch right now 29:17.280 --> 29:18.140 at TheRoseChannel.com 29:20.000 --> 29:20.940 my side bias 29:20.940 --> 29:22.140 is a special sort of 29:22.140 --> 29:22.460 bias 29:22.460 --> 29:23.960 it's unlike all of the other 29:23.960 --> 29:24.380 biases 29:24.980 --> 29:25.940 my side bias 29:25.940 --> 29:26.500 is 29:27.760 --> 29:28.500 let's see 29:28.500 --> 29:28.780 I 29:28.780 --> 29:29.620 defined it in here 29:29.620 --> 29:30.280 and we look it up 29:30.280 --> 29:31.500 it's basically 29:37.500 --> 29:38.680 it just wrote this down 29:38.680 --> 29:40.060 did I not say it 29:40.060 --> 29:40.600 in the talk 29:40.600 --> 29:41.660 I bet I said it 29:41.660 --> 29:42.560 I just didn't write it down 29:43.020 --> 29:43.740 my side bias 29:43.740 --> 29:44.040 is 29:44.860 --> 29:45.340 politics 29:46.140 --> 29:46.620 yeah 29:46.620 --> 29:47.640 literally politics 29:47.640 --> 29:48.820 you chose a team 29:49.440 --> 29:49.920 yes 29:49.920 --> 29:51.080 things that go against 29:51.080 --> 29:51.720 my side 29:51.720 --> 29:52.440 or my team 29:52.440 --> 29:53.360 or my community 29:53.360 --> 29:54.180 and this goes to what 29:54.180 --> 29:54.800 he was talking about 29:54.800 --> 29:55.300 with 29:55.300 --> 29:56.820 evolving in communities 29:56.820 --> 29:58.380 things that go against 29:58.380 --> 29:59.100 your side 29:59.100 --> 30:00.500 are immediately rejected 30:00.500 --> 30:01.040 or 30:01.040 --> 30:01.840 worse 30:01.840 --> 30:02.580 they're treated as 30:02.580 --> 30:03.320 like the enemy 30:03.320 --> 30:04.260 and you're seeing 30:04.260 --> 30:04.820 you see this 30:04.820 --> 30:05.280 from the left 30:05.280 --> 30:05.740 and the right 30:05.740 --> 30:06.700 like the right right now 30:06.700 --> 30:07.660 the Christian nationalist 30:07.660 --> 30:08.080 types 30:08.420 --> 30:09.480 that are prominent 30:09.480 --> 30:10.640 on the right right now 30:10.640 --> 30:11.460 they're talking 30:11.460 --> 30:12.660 about libertarians 30:12.660 --> 30:13.420 as if we're 30:13.420 --> 30:14.600 like liberalism 30:14.600 --> 30:15.500 is the enemy 30:15.500 --> 30:16.680 of civilization 30:16.680 --> 30:18.180 and they're 30:18.180 --> 30:19.260 talking about us 30:19.260 --> 30:19.480 like 30:19.480 --> 30:20.580 we're literally 30:20.580 --> 30:21.320 I don't know 30:21.320 --> 30:22.620 some acidic 30:22.620 --> 30:24.020 degenerative force 30:24.020 --> 30:24.800 on their 30:24.800 --> 30:25.260 holy 30:25.260 --> 30:25.900 Christian 30:25.900 --> 30:26.700 national 30:26.700 --> 30:27.640 nation thing 30:27.640 --> 30:28.220 I don't know 30:28.220 --> 30:29.000 like 30:29.780 --> 30:31.120 and any argument 30:31.120 --> 30:32.680 you level at them 30:32.680 --> 30:33.700 they don't actually 30:33.700 --> 30:34.480 take on 30:34.480 --> 30:35.420 they just 30:35.420 --> 30:36.300 go to the side 30:36.300 --> 30:36.620 and be like 30:36.620 --> 30:37.580 okay well you're not 30:37.580 --> 30:38.220 one of us 30:38.220 --> 30:39.040 you're not a Christian 30:39.040 --> 30:39.660 nationalist 30:39.660 --> 30:40.520 we're just going to 30:40.520 --> 30:41.420 you're on the bad side 30:41.420 --> 30:42.400 so we don't have to 30:42.400 --> 30:43.020 refute anything 30:43.020 --> 30:44.000 we're going to post memes 30:44.000 --> 30:44.960 that make fun of you 30:44.960 --> 30:45.520 and then we're going to 30:45.520 --> 30:46.040 move on right 30:46.040 --> 30:46.380 and 30:46.380 --> 30:47.200 okay so the 30:47.200 --> 30:47.980 the thing that's 30:47.980 --> 30:48.820 special about my side 30:48.820 --> 30:49.080 bias 30:49.080 --> 30:50.400 is that it's the most 30:50.400 --> 30:51.080 training 30:51.080 --> 30:51.740 resistant 30:51.740 --> 30:52.500 bias 30:52.500 --> 30:53.920 of all of the biases 30:53.920 --> 30:54.880 what that means 30:54.880 --> 30:55.140 is 30:55.140 --> 30:55.820 is that 30:55.820 --> 30:56.500 it's largely 30:56.500 --> 30:57.640 unaffected by how smart 30:57.640 --> 30:58.100 you are 30:58.100 --> 30:59.460 it's largely unaffected 30:59.460 --> 31:00.380 by your education 31:00.380 --> 31:01.800 and even if they 31:01.800 --> 31:02.520 give you critical 31:02.520 --> 31:03.400 thinking training 31:03.400 --> 31:04.240 and training 31:04.240 --> 31:05.670 specifically against 31:06.020 --> 31:06.820 my side bias 31:06.820 --> 31:08.100 it is largely 31:08.100 --> 31:08.820 unaffected 31:08.820 --> 31:10.520 and that's the bias 31:10.520 --> 31:11.820 the government 31:11.820 --> 31:13.420 uses to divide us all 31:13.420 --> 31:14.280 into red and blue 31:14.280 --> 31:15.280 donkeys and elephants 31:15.280 --> 31:16.320 they 31:16.320 --> 31:17.440 they put people on 31:17.440 --> 31:17.940 a side 31:18.410 --> 31:19.240 and they're 31:19.240 --> 31:20.320 like exploiting 31:20.320 --> 31:21.700 the most 31:21.700 --> 31:22.800 intractable vulnerability 31:22.800 --> 31:23.500 of the human 31:23.500 --> 31:23.860 species 31:23.860 --> 31:25.000 and I think 31:25.000 --> 31:26.160 the best 31:26.160 --> 31:27.040 maybe even 31:27.040 --> 31:28.040 the only thing 31:28.040 --> 31:28.800 I've ever seen 31:28.800 --> 31:29.660 that does 31:29.660 --> 31:30.620 at least 31:30.620 --> 31:31.920 pretty often does 31:31.920 --> 31:32.700 a pretty good job 31:32.700 --> 31:33.780 of circumventing that 31:33.780 --> 31:34.500 is what we teach 31:34.500 --> 31:35.480 in Kendall's in the dark 31:35.480 --> 31:36.540 which is instead of 31:36.540 --> 31:37.000 have it 31:37.000 --> 31:38.320 you believe this 31:38.320 --> 31:39.240 I believe that 31:39.900 --> 31:40.420 it's 31:40.420 --> 31:41.400 let me ask you 31:41.400 --> 31:42.020 some questions 31:42.020 --> 31:43.000 about what you believe 31:43.000 --> 31:43.720 exactly 31:43.720 --> 31:45.540 and lead their beliefs 31:45.540 --> 31:45.920 where 31:45.920 --> 31:46.680 they're the only one 31:46.680 --> 31:47.160 saying anything 31:47.160 --> 31:48.140 about what they believe 31:48.140 --> 31:49.460 up to the conflict 31:49.460 --> 31:50.320 with themselves 31:50.320 --> 31:51.620 and so the entire 31:51.620 --> 31:52.260 conversation 31:52.260 --> 31:53.300 is on the other side 31:53.300 --> 31:53.940 of the wall 31:53.940 --> 31:54.600 that they have 31:54.600 --> 31:56.120 with scary outsiders 31:56.120 --> 31:57.180 who believe different things 31:57.180 --> 31:57.540 I'm like 31:58.240 --> 31:59.600 never mind any scary outsiders 31:59.600 --> 32:00.820 what do you think about this 32:00.820 --> 32:01.140 and 32:01.140 --> 32:02.420 what do you think about that 32:02.420 --> 32:03.580 so that 32:03.580 --> 32:04.540 there is no side 32:04.540 --> 32:05.620 like it's them and them 32:05.620 --> 32:06.480 like presumably 32:06.480 --> 32:07.600 they're on the same side 32:07.600 --> 32:08.860 weirdly they're actually not 32:08.860 --> 32:10.680 we teach about that 32:10.680 --> 32:11.920 is driving the wedge 32:11.920 --> 32:12.280 between 32:12.280 --> 32:13.760 what they really believe 32:13.760 --> 32:14.300 and then the craft 32:14.300 --> 32:14.820 they were taught 32:14.820 --> 32:16.380 but if you can do it 32:16.380 --> 32:17.000 in a way that 32:17.000 --> 32:17.900 you don't feel 32:17.900 --> 32:18.920 like an outside 32:18.920 --> 32:20.280 different unfamiliar 32:20.280 --> 32:21.200 foreign idea 32:21.680 --> 32:23.240 you're just asking them 32:23.240 --> 32:24.520 for clarification 32:24.520 --> 32:25.700 about what they believe 32:25.700 --> 32:26.980 until they get to a point 32:26.980 --> 32:27.420 where they're 32:27.420 --> 32:28.800 they're not sure what they believe 32:28.800 --> 32:30.060 and they're not sure what to say 32:30.060 --> 32:31.560 because every status 32:31.560 --> 32:32.880 has massive contradictions 32:32.880 --> 32:33.800 inside his head 32:33.800 --> 32:35.020 instead of it 32:35.020 --> 32:36.020 being them against you 32:36.020 --> 32:36.960 it's them against them 32:36.960 --> 32:37.840 and if you can gently 32:37.840 --> 32:38.820 bring them to that 32:38.820 --> 32:40.300 a lot of these things 32:40.300 --> 32:41.400 either happen a lot less 32:41.400 --> 32:42.500 or don't happen at all 32:42.500 --> 32:43.700 if you like 32:43.700 --> 32:44.880 carefully train yourself 32:44.880 --> 32:45.660 in the candles 32:45.660 --> 32:46.340 in the art mode 32:46.920 --> 32:47.800 because there isn't 32:47.800 --> 32:48.520 another side 32:48.520 --> 32:49.840 it's just them and them 32:50.340 --> 32:52.100 and then they don't have the 32:52.100 --> 32:52.780 excuse 32:52.780 --> 32:54.440 or the weird psychological 32:54.440 --> 32:55.260 patterns of 32:55.260 --> 32:56.100 I'm going to jump away 32:56.100 --> 32:57.500 from having to think about this 32:57.500 --> 32:58.480 by deciding 32:58.480 --> 32:59.780 that you're one of the bad ones 32:59.780 --> 33:01.200 or you're on the wrong side 33:02.280 --> 33:03.640 like it can't be anything 33:03.640 --> 33:04.200 about me 33:04.200 --> 33:05.080 if I didn't say anything 33:05.080 --> 33:05.860 about what I believe 33:05.860 --> 33:06.660 I'm just asking you 33:06.660 --> 33:07.220 what you believe 33:07.760 --> 33:09.040 and that's the only thing 33:09.040 --> 33:09.980 I've seen that actually 33:10.460 --> 33:10.940 undermines 33:10.940 --> 33:12.160 and defeats 33:12.160 --> 33:12.520 these 33:12.520 --> 33:14.040 these weird patterns 33:14.040 --> 33:14.880 that make otherwise 33:14.880 --> 33:15.880 smart people 33:15.880 --> 33:16.600 believe 33:16.600 --> 33:17.280 dumb crap 33:17.900 --> 33:18.380 yeah 33:18.380 --> 33:19.980 alright and the last thing I'll say 33:20.680 --> 33:21.240 is 33:21.840 --> 33:22.960 asymmetric skepticism 33:22.960 --> 33:23.900 I'll keep it short 33:23.900 --> 33:25.180 because this is running long again 33:25.180 --> 33:26.800 asymmetric skepticism 33:26.800 --> 33:28.340 is how really smart people 33:29.320 --> 33:29.880 hold 33:29.880 --> 33:31.760 bad or false beliefs 33:32.380 --> 33:33.520 one of them anyways right 33:33.520 --> 33:35.340 so asymmetric skepticism 33:35.340 --> 33:36.720 skepticism it just means 33:36.720 --> 33:37.360 you examine 33:37.360 --> 33:39.000 things that you don't believe 33:39.000 --> 33:40.160 very closely 33:40.160 --> 33:41.680 and you don't examine 33:41.680 --> 33:42.800 things you do believe 33:42.800 --> 33:43.900 very closely 33:44.960 --> 33:46.340 and like I think 33:46.340 --> 33:48.480 the new atheists movement 33:48.480 --> 33:50.080 that was around for a while 33:50.080 --> 33:52.320 was really susceptible to this 33:52.320 --> 33:53.040 I also think 33:53.040 --> 33:55.280 that a lot of the reddit bro 33:55.280 --> 33:56.880 Christian apologetics 33:56.880 --> 33:59.080 were really having problems with this 33:59.080 --> 34:00.740 but it's why 34:00.740 --> 34:03.400 the Anacropoco talk I gave a couple years ago 34:03.400 --> 34:04.680 I really challenged people 34:05.320 --> 34:05.600 to 34:06.500 --> 34:08.440 like if the only beliefs 34:08.440 --> 34:10.440 you ever challenged are the ones that you don't hold 34:11.240 --> 34:13.580 then you're never going to learn anything new 34:13.580 --> 34:15.720 so you need to challenge your own beliefs 34:15.720 --> 34:16.620 more 34:16.620 --> 34:17.500 than 34:17.500 --> 34:19.040 other people's beliefs 34:19.570 --> 34:21.760 to make sure that what you do believe is true 34:21.760 --> 34:22.640 is actually true 34:22.640 --> 34:23.920 so that's 34:23.920 --> 34:25.870 called asymmetric skepticism 34:26.340 --> 34:28.920 and the reason why it messes 34:28.920 --> 34:29.920 with intelligent people 34:29.920 --> 34:31.540 is because well 34:31.540 --> 34:33.200 if you're smart 34:33.530 --> 34:34.680 if I'm smart 34:34.680 --> 34:36.080 the things I believe 34:36.720 --> 34:38.540 well they're probably right 34:38.540 --> 34:40.980 so why would I waste time 34:40.980 --> 34:42.840 challenging the smart 34:42.840 --> 34:43.980 person's beliefs 34:43.980 --> 34:46.460 when I could show all the 34:46.460 --> 34:47.500 idiots out there 34:47.500 --> 34:49.420 what they believe is wrong 34:50.100 --> 34:51.780 that's just how it works 34:51.780 --> 34:53.500 like the smarter you are 34:53.500 --> 34:56.260 the easier it is for you to rationalize yourself 34:56.260 --> 34:56.900 into bullshit 34:56.900 --> 34:59.540 because it takes intelligence to be good 34:59.540 --> 35:01.900 at rationalizing things right 35:01.900 --> 35:02.400 well 35:02.960 --> 35:03.760 yeah there you go 35:03.760 --> 35:05.240 and once again the candles in the dark 35:05.240 --> 35:07.860 undermines that by it being about their things 35:07.860 --> 35:09.640 and it not being approaching it 35:09.640 --> 35:11.480 it's not just how do you explain this 35:11.480 --> 35:12.040 and what about this 35:12.040 --> 35:13.080 this is a trap 35:13.080 --> 35:15.420 it's you're actually listening to them 35:15.420 --> 35:17.940 with the actual intent of understanding what they think 35:17.940 --> 35:19.380 so it's not like 35:19.380 --> 35:21.620 you're not like putting them back on their heels 35:21.620 --> 35:22.740 like justify this 35:22.740 --> 35:24.220 you're just going I want 35:24.220 --> 35:26.420 like can you clarify what like 35:26.420 --> 35:27.920 in this situation would you believe this 35:27.920 --> 35:29.820 do you think you should disobey the law if it's at that 35:29.820 --> 35:32.160 and walk them through it so that 35:32.160 --> 35:33.980 it's not even like 35:33.980 --> 35:36.300 be skeptical of your own belief system 35:36.300 --> 35:38.000 which most people are really bad at 35:38.000 --> 35:40.420 it's just I want to know more about 35:40.420 --> 35:41.240 what you think 35:41.240 --> 35:43.180 and people like to say what they think 35:43.180 --> 35:44.960 and if you ask for a clarification 35:44.960 --> 35:46.280 they get to a point where it's like 35:46.280 --> 35:47.360 I don't know what I think 35:47.360 --> 35:49.540 it's sort of a way to trick them into 35:49.540 --> 35:51.180 looking at something that they won't use 35:51.180 --> 35:53.420 they won't look at it if they're in argument mode 35:53.420 --> 35:55.160 because they don't want to like 35:55.160 --> 35:56.640 this is what I'm defending 35:56.640 --> 35:58.060 why would I question this 35:58.060 --> 36:00.180 why would I like be a trader to 36:00.180 --> 36:01.560 the thing on my side 36:01.560 --> 36:02.580 the beliefs on my side 36:02.580 --> 36:03.200 but if it's like 36:03.200 --> 36:05.280 oh you have some interesting beliefs on your side 36:05.280 --> 36:06.180 can you tell me them 36:06.180 --> 36:07.100 tell me more about them 36:07.100 --> 36:07.960 yeah they 36:07.960 --> 36:08.880 well they don't make sense 36:08.880 --> 36:13.220 and so the psychological response 36:13.220 --> 36:14.940 is like fundamentally different 36:14.940 --> 36:17.540 because it just sneaks around all the walls 36:17.540 --> 36:18.800 of these weird phenomena 36:18.800 --> 36:21.360 I did that to a poor guy at your show 36:21.360 --> 36:22.860 when I was having my first talk 36:22.860 --> 36:24.280 about the belief 36:24.280 --> 36:25.460 the spectrum of beliefs 36:25.460 --> 36:26.400 I went into the audience 36:26.400 --> 36:27.520 and I said okay 36:27.520 --> 36:28.260 I'm going to challenge you 36:28.260 --> 36:28.820 so get ready 36:28.820 --> 36:30.580 and I said somebody raise your hand 36:30.580 --> 36:32.560 if you have a really strongly held belief 36:32.560 --> 36:33.580 that you're confident in 36:33.580 --> 36:34.640 and I went to them 36:34.640 --> 36:35.340 and I was like okay 36:35.340 --> 36:36.000 what's the belief 36:36.000 --> 36:36.460 okay 36:36.460 --> 36:38.680 what's your justification for that belief 36:38.680 --> 36:39.460 okay 36:39.460 --> 36:40.380 and he gives it to me 36:40.380 --> 36:41.060 and I'm like okay 36:41.060 --> 36:42.980 what's the name of the author 36:42.980 --> 36:44.360 that wrote 36:44.360 --> 36:45.620 the most convincing 36:45.620 --> 36:47.660 counter argument to your position 36:47.660 --> 36:47.960 yeah 36:47.960 --> 36:49.880 and this guy was supposed to 36:49.880 --> 36:50.440 bumble around 36:50.440 --> 36:51.500 and not really have one 36:51.500 --> 36:53.440 like almost everybody else would 36:53.440 --> 36:54.700 yeah I watched a YouTube video 36:54.700 --> 36:55.120 or something 36:55.120 --> 36:55.920 but no no 36:55.920 --> 36:57.240 because this is an attendee 36:57.240 --> 36:58.300 of Larkin's show 36:58.300 --> 36:59.220 he was like well 36:59.220 --> 37:00.460 this guy and this guy 37:00.460 --> 37:01.540 and he wrote this book 37:01.540 --> 37:02.300 I'm like well thanks 37:03.060 --> 37:04.840 thanks for fucking up my talk 37:04.840 --> 37:05.720 I appreciate it 37:05.720 --> 37:05.920 no 37:05.920 --> 37:07.520 and then you had to say well must 37:07.520 --> 37:08.200 pay Paul 37:10.500 --> 37:11.780 but that's the thing 37:11.780 --> 37:12.740 like if you have a 37:12.740 --> 37:13.960 really strongly held belief 37:13.960 --> 37:15.160 that you're really confident about 37:15.160 --> 37:16.480 and you can't answer that question 37:16.480 --> 37:18.360 you know rattle off the top three 37:18.360 --> 37:19.700 people that make 37:19.700 --> 37:20.980 the top three strongest 37:20.980 --> 37:22.360 counter arguments to your position 37:22.360 --> 37:24.000 that means you really haven't 37:24.000 --> 37:25.040 challenged your belief 37:25.040 --> 37:25.960 if you don't know the 37:25.960 --> 37:26.620 counter arguments 37:26.620 --> 37:27.600 and you don't know the people 37:27.600 --> 37:28.620 that made those counter arguments 37:28.620 --> 37:29.540 you probably haven't really 37:30.060 --> 37:30.900 done the work 37:30.900 --> 37:32.020 the funny thing is 37:32.020 --> 37:33.480 almost everybody recognizes 37:33.480 --> 37:34.920 that everybody else does this 37:34.920 --> 37:36.560 like the fluffers 37:36.560 --> 37:38.160 all the people who think 37:38.160 --> 37:38.900 the earth is flat 37:38.900 --> 37:39.680 will often tell me 37:39.680 --> 37:41.280 you just haven't looked into it 37:41.280 --> 37:42.480 I can literally recite 37:42.480 --> 37:43.900 the arguments from the guy 37:43.900 --> 37:44.900 you got it from 37:44.900 --> 37:47.160 in way more detail than you can 37:47.160 --> 37:48.620 and I knew from the beginning 37:48.620 --> 37:49.560 was wrong anyway 37:50.100 --> 37:51.720 but I went in to see 37:51.720 --> 37:52.740 well what do they say 37:52.740 --> 37:54.360 where are they getting things wrong 37:54.360 --> 37:55.920 what is their actual position 37:55.920 --> 37:57.980 which parts are provably wrong 37:57.980 --> 37:58.980 in which parts okay 37:58.980 --> 37:59.840 there's sort of an excuse 37:59.840 --> 38:00.820 for thinking that part 38:00.820 --> 38:01.940 but then you make a flying leap 38:01.940 --> 38:03.220 so they assume 38:03.220 --> 38:03.680 you don't know 38:03.680 --> 38:05.220 and I'll get into arguments 38:05.220 --> 38:05.900 with Christians 38:05.900 --> 38:06.580 who are like 38:06.580 --> 38:07.720 ah you're wrong about this 38:07.720 --> 38:08.500 and it turns out 38:08.500 --> 38:09.420 I know the Bible better 38:09.420 --> 38:09.960 than they do 38:10.520 --> 38:11.400 Craig Hargis 38:11.400 --> 38:12.900 and I keep laughing about that 38:12.900 --> 38:14.120 because I debate status 38:14.120 --> 38:15.780 and I don't identify as a Christian 38:15.780 --> 38:16.620 but I mean 38:16.620 --> 38:17.340 say just 38:17.800 --> 38:19.260 say just to identify as Christian 38:19.260 --> 38:20.080 and I know the Bible 38:20.080 --> 38:20.800 better than they do 38:20.800 --> 38:21.180 and they're like 38:21.180 --> 38:21.880 you just 38:21.880 --> 38:23.180 you've just never read 38:23.180 --> 38:23.900 yes I have 38:23.900 --> 38:24.020 but 38:25.540 --> 38:26.640 people will assume 38:26.640 --> 38:27.840 that of the other person 38:27.840 --> 38:28.460 that like 38:28.460 --> 38:30.680 the reason you don't agree with me 38:30.680 --> 38:32.220 is because you haven't looked into it 38:32.220 --> 38:32.660 like I've heard 38:32.660 --> 38:34.400 8 million flat earthers say that 38:34.400 --> 38:36.020 and that works because most people haven't 38:36.020 --> 38:36.840 yeah and it's true 38:36.840 --> 38:37.420 of most people 38:37.420 --> 38:38.600 so it's an excuse to 38:38.600 --> 38:39.960 you must be wrong 38:39.960 --> 38:41.560 because you haven't watched 38:41.560 --> 38:42.460 what I've watched 38:42.460 --> 38:43.440 and that's an example 38:43.440 --> 38:44.960 of the brain doing the slide around 38:44.960 --> 38:45.360 yeah 38:47.120 --> 38:48.660 we are weird creatures 38:48.660 --> 38:50.460 it's maddening 38:50.460 --> 38:52.040 humans are terrible at wisdom 38:52.040 --> 38:53.180 like if we 38:53.760 --> 38:54.640 accepting that 38:54.640 --> 38:55.840 is the first step to wisdom 38:55.840 --> 38:56.520 yeah 38:56.520 --> 38:58.300 might be the only step 38:58.300 --> 38:59.440 but we never get any glutes 38:59.440 --> 39:00.060 but at least 39:00.060 --> 39:01.760 at least we got one step in 39:01.760 --> 39:02.300 alright 39:02.300 --> 39:03.940 well let's 39:03.940 --> 39:06.440 we've gotten way more video out of these 39:06.440 --> 39:06.900 yeah 39:06.900 --> 39:07.460 than I thought 39:07.460 --> 39:09.200 there's supposed to be on vacation here 39:09.200 --> 39:09.700 I know right 39:09.700 --> 39:10.740 thanks for watching guys 39:10.740 --> 39:11.380 yeah 39:11.380 --> 39:12.980 we're gonna go do nothing for a while 39:12.980 --> 39:13.220 yeah