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Pavel, how's it going, man?
Yeah, great. How are you guys?
Good, good, good. Thank you for jumping on.
Appreciate it. I wanted to bring you on to get people excited about Moneratopia.
So, I've been bringing on various guests, people that will be speakers at Moneratopia.
You were there last year, you brought a tremendous, you were a big part of the conference last year,
bringing your vibe, the crypto anarchist vibe.
So, appreciative of having you participating again this year.
I just wanted to get you up here so people can meet you.
Thanks a lot for the invitation. I'm really looking forward to the next Moneratopia.
I definitely will come. I'm already in Latin America now, so I just have to move like to the north.
I'm just in Paraguay now.
Oh, you're in Paraguay?
It's pretty far, by the way. I'm in Paraguay, yeah.
Like, almost the same time zone like you now, like I have like 1pm 33, so not a big difference.
But it's pretty far to Mexico. I have to fly like 6 hours to Panama,
and then another maybe 3-4 hours to Mexico, so long slide.
But I will come, don't worry.
Oh, fantastic, fantastic. I know South America is a big place, right?
Paraguay, Argentina, other side of the world, man.
That's part of the reason why we moved it to Mexico City,
because as much as I wanted to do it in Buenos Aires, it's just so far for so many people.
Yeah, yeah. I can't imagine.
So many people, I mean, especially for Americans, but not for Latinos.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, can you give us any hints what you might be talking about this year?
Yeah, very good question. I have like two topics, recent new cool topics,
and maybe we should discuss which one will be the best for this conference.
So maybe let's start with the first topic.
And the first topic is, the title of this presentation is the Will the New,
Rich and Influential Libertarian in the Coupes and Alpes,
which is saved divorce from dystopia.
I'm going to explain it, what does it mean exactly, okay?
Wait, your sound is getting a little fuzzy right now,
but I don't know if you change something over there.
Yeah, try to maybe keep the phone jack.
Okay, so I'm going to explain it like my first topic,
which may be very interesting for you.
So this topic is about, it should be like a philosophical future,
like a future-logist presentation, so basically it's predictions.
And the thing is that in these days, or it is quite likely that in the future,
like a group of people, especially different people will be rich.
It's pretty likely everybody will be living like a Bitcoin crypto is going to the moon,
so quite likely a lot of crypto people in the following years will be rich.
And rich basically means, it's intentional.
So if you're rich, you have also like a political power,
you can change the system, you can do a lot of things just because you're rich.
And what is quite interesting about this topic is that most of these rich people
or most of the crypto people in these days are libertarians,
or like an anarchist-crypto-anarchist.
So basically it means in the future, when you're just thinking about it,
in the future, like most rich people will be libertarians and trypto-anarchists.
Are you aware of this fact?
It's just happening, you know what I mean?
So because of the current situation, let's consider like a Silicon Valley,
like a California, most rich people maybe are Democrats,
but it's changing over the time and it's very likely, it's very likely,
it's always 100%, that in the future the rich people,
or one of the richest people in the world, are people.
And not everybody, but most of them are libertarians and pro-anarchists.
So let's consider what does it mean?
It means that the most, not only the richest, but also the most influential people
will be anarchist or crypto-anarchist.
Okay, so this is exactly what I think will happen
and if you're just thinking about it, it's very likely.
At the same time, our society is going to like a dystopian direction,
you know that like a lot of bonds, like a censorship,
technocracy, technocracy.
So basically, we can see like two directions.
We can see that the Mason society is going to dystopia direction,
but at the same time, we can see the anarchist and crypto-anarchist libertarians
will be the richest people in the world.
And now back to my original title of the presentation.
My title of the presentation is
Will the new rich and influential libertarians and crypto-anarchists save the world from dystopia?
And that's exactly what.
So basically, I'm going to talk if all of us, like libertarians, crypto-anarchists,
who will be rich, I hope soon, or in the following years,
if we can like save the world from dystopia,
because in this situation, it means like we will have not only like the money,
but it means we will have like a power.
It means also political power.
And this is like a really interesting topic and I never,
I didn't find like any like any papers or any analysis about this
and I did some analysis.
So this is like a first topic.
So Will the new rich and influential libertarians and crypto-anarchists save the world from dystopia?
Because I don't know, I strongly feel, yeah.
It's a fantastic thing to talk about.
It's a great thesis, great question really, right?
I think you're spot on.
I mean, look at Satoshi, right?
Richest man in the world.
Will be, I think he currently is, right?
Would be the richest person in the world, right?
Ross Albright, right?
Would be one of the most successful entrepreneurs if he wasn't put in prison
with the double life sentence and Silk Road was still out there functioning.
You have Peter Thiel, right?
He's already moving.
You have Elon Musk, these guys that are already like on the fringe
and then you have all these new crypto people up.
Did we lose him?
Did we lose Pablo?
He's coming in.
I definitely, right?
As Monero grows up in market cap, you're enriching libertarian aligned people.
Anarchists, right?
Anarchists really.
So I think the real question that becomes is, right?
So they'll have these resource.
You'll have these very intelligent people that are very principled.
That will have these resources now and these tools.
And then I think the question becomes is how powerful is this dark force that they'll be up against?
Is it just a matter of having money and having these tools?
Or does this dark force have so much power beyond money that even with that influence
and that new found money that the world is just so deeply corrupted and controlled
by this dark anti-liberty force that wants to control the people, control the populace?
Because they have a lot of technology on their side.
Will they be able to snuff out and prevail over all these wealthy libertarians
that have opted out that are using these apparent, what appear to be unstoppable tools?
That's really what the question comes down to, right?
Yeah.
Just think about like a Satoshi Nakamoto you mentioned like a Satoshi Nakamoto has one million of Bitcoin.
And imagine like what, how can you change the world with one million Bitcoin?
Basically like this guy can lobby or can corrupt all poison in the world.
It can change the political society in all countries.
Just like it's so easy when he wants of course.
But we are just talking about this possibility.
So I'm going to talk about this possibility that just the fact that like a crypto is going to the moon
and it's only question of time, I mean especially like a Bitcoin.
I think that crypto anarchists, libertarians, people who believe in crypto
will be definitely like the most rich people in our society, which means influential.
People who can change the system and who will do that for sure.
So this is my first topic.
I would like to talk.
I see I like it.
I do.
And my second topic, my second topic, it's about like a opt out.
I have like a completely new recent presentation about like opt out of the system.
But this presentation is for non-Americans.
Because probably like a US citizen is a pretty tough.
So I'm not sure, because I think like most people at the monorail topic would be like a US citizen.
So I'm not sure if this like a second topic would be the best.
But my second topic is for basically for non-US citizens how to opt out of the system.
And that's a lot of like what you specialize in and what you live by.
So spreading that wisdom.
I just pulled up your website here.
For those of you who don't know Pavel, I mean, this guy is as far as we know one of the,
if not the most legit crypto anarchists out there, right, has been walking the walk for many years.
And he is one of the founders of Paralinalpolis, which hosts the Monero conference.
Yes.
Co-founders of that institution way ahead of its time that houses the first cafe to ever officially accept Bitcoin from back in what was that 2011 or something, right?
Yeah.
So yeah, if you don't know Pavel, you're kind of a noob.
So he will be at Monero Topia.
He's from Slovakia.
You can pull up his website.
It's theopportunus.global.
He specializes in helping people how to opt out, right?
Like you're basically a consultant that teaches people how to opt out.
Is that a fair way to explain your services?
Yeah.
So basically it's like a full package, what we offer to our customer.
We help them to renounce their citizenship or residency.
In case of you a citizen, it's like a citizenship because they're tax duties associated with citizenship.
So we help customers to get like a better residency, tax residency.
We focused on Paraguay, Uruguay, Panama and probably Costa Rica very soon.
So we have like a multiple destination, especially in Paraguay is really popular because to get tax residency in Paraguay, you don't need to leave the major recovery time, which you have to in the most countries.
Also, we create like companies, offshore companies for customers in many different countries.
And we also open like a crypto friendly bank accounts.
Now, the super popular like bank account is like a premium banking in Georgia, in Georgia, Bank of Georgia, like a Georgia of the country or not Georgia of the state.
And this is like really popular because you can have the best payment cards and it's crypto friendly when you have like a local Georgia and it costs almost nothing.
And also we are helping customers to get a good culture insurance.
So basically what is quite interesting is like most of our customers are like digital landlords who are troubling all the time.
But still we have like a many people who permanently leave at one place, like for example in the Europe, you know, and these people, they can still opt out of the system.
They can still in Europe, for example, because there are citizens of Europe, but they don't need like residency.
So they don't need to pay like a helper, like obituary fostering friends or fostering friends.
And they can leave from the loans, for example, for the people who cannot afford to move all the time.
We are helping to set up like some structures, how to leave from crypto, which is pretty interesting.
So you can use crypto as a collateral, like AAB, for example, and you can leave it for me.
And you don't just sell your crypto, it's like a really, really cool thing.
So it's like a very complex top out plan.
It includes like a many different things, but the goal is just to be as much free as possible.
And like I said, you don't just talk the talk, you walk the walk, you use all these things, you live by it.
If you look at his kind of his resume over here, where he has his residencies in Estonia, in Paraguay.
He has his companies in Wyoming and Slovakia for crypto reasons.
He's listing, you know, all the different kind of tools he uses, his crypto cards, Zappos, and to basically use crypto international health care provider.
Are you paying with crypto for this William and Russell health care?
This international, do you pay them with crypto?
No, I don't know.
I don't know any international health insurance provider that accept crypto.
I know there is one local one that works in the U.S., like for U.S. citizens.
I can't remember the name of this, like a U.S. health care.
And this can be paid in crypto, but I don't know any international health insurance provider that accept crypto.
If you know, such like a provider just doesn't know.
You would be the first to know, I'm asking you, because you would be the first to know.
I think you always want to use crowd health, isn't it?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly, but this one is for the U.S. citizens and not for foreigners.
Or just too expensive for foreigners.
And my question for you, by the way, like my slot company, we exchange regularly Euro to Monero.
And as you know, like a cracker decided to delist Monero for the EU.
So do you know, and anyway, I'm really happy that Monero went back to the original value despite this fact.
So my question is, do you know like any official way, so it has to be like a centralized crypto exchange.
Do you know any centralized crypto exchange that basically accept that deposit inside of the EU
and it supports Monero, like a Monero friendly crypto exchange in EU?
That's my question.
Well, about like instant exchanges, does that count?
Instant exchange?
Instant exchanges.
A bunch of different instant exchanges like Trocador, Exilex.
Is that what you're talking about?
Yeah, okay.
I know Trocador, I know these instant exchanges, but I need like a fiat deposit.
Oh, fiat deposit.
So to go from fiat to Monero, I don't know.
From Europe, yeah.
From fiat to Monero.
It's probably not possible.
Tux, you might have some insight into that, right?
Maybe DFX.
Yeah, we have in cake, we have one called DFX that actually lets you do up to like 900,000 euros without KYC.
You can connect your bank account and Monero directly on there.
Okay, tell me then.
What's your name?
It's called DFX.swiss.
You'll see in cake wallet.
It's built into cake wallet.
Yeah, I'm super active user of cake wallet, so I will definitely check it.
Yeah, see if that one works for you.
I've never been able to try it because I'm in the US, but I've heard for all the people that do live in Europe who can use it, it's pretty great for them.
Yeah.
Good information.
On one side, I'm quite happy that Monero is going away from all these centralized crypto exchanges.
It's going like a full underground.
It's becoming like a full underground cryptocurrency.
But at the same time, I still have to have my companies in this EU health.
And I have to find some way how to change like a euros to Monero.
Yeah, I mean, hopefully those on and off ramps continue to, you know, new ones grow, right?
So maybe even more decentralized versions.
Obviously, things like local Monero have been shut down, but there's other things popping up.
Neolist tipped $23, check out KYC not.me for a list of exchanges centralized or not to trade Monero for crypto or fiat.
Yeah, that is a great resource.
KYC not.me shows all the ways in which you can trade into Monero.
I do want to mention this.
I just want to mention this. Libertat tipped $10.
Pavel is one of the most legit cypherpunks I've met.
His ongoing work on actually finding freedom in an increasingly unfree world is an inspiration to us all.
I'm excited to listen to what he has to say this year at Mexico City.
In Mexico City, be there or miss out.
Yeah, couldn't agree more Libertat. Couldn't agree more.
You got some fans here, man.
Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. I'm really looking forward to MonoTopia at Mexico.
Yeah, that's the reason why I now every year I end up in in Mexico.
What do you think about Tux and I were talking about this idea of trying to grow Monero in Mexico?
We do the conference there more for strategic reasons in terms of location.
It's very easy for people to get to, but it's perhaps not the best place to try to grow Monero.
It doesn't have super high inflation like Argentina. The peso is relatively stable,
but that being said, there does seem to be in their culture a cash-based culture.
A lot of the Mexicans that are out there on the street selling things, they prefer to accept cash in pesos.
So there's this cash culture, this free and open market culture.
You can go on the street and sell anything, right?
And there's this mentality that people should be allowed to do that.
So there is that culture there.
But just curious, like your thoughts, do you think Mexico can be a good Petri dish for growing something like Monero?
Monero adoption?
I have a stupid answer. Maybe because of narcos, yes.
A tool is a tool, right?
One interesting thing about Mexico you probably don't know is that in Mexico, there are ATM machines,
not only for withdrawals, but also for deposits.
So basically you can deposit money and send money anywhere you want.
And what is interesting, like in Mexican ATM machines, you can basically deposit a physical cash
and send it to any person fully, anonymously.
Which definitely doesn't work anywhere in Europe, but it works in Mexico.
So for example, when you want to buy drugs, like listen to this.
When you want to buy drugs in Mexico, nobody cares about crypto, nobody cares about cash.
Like a drug dealer will write to you, please deposit money to this bank account.
And so you can just visit like any physical ATM machine that accepts anonymous deposit.
You just put a lot of cash to this ATM machine deposit and he received it anonymously in a few seconds.
So basically Mexico is a pool of ATM machines that accept anonymous deposit.
Well, that sounds like an amazing potential on-ramp like local Monero style where you can buy Monero anonymously with cash, right?
Yeah, I didn't know any country where you can just physically come to any ATM machine,
put like a physical cash and send it.
It's just like a recipe and a bank account number of the person.
But it basically like a deposit, no KVAC, no personal information, nothing.
We just send it in a fully anonymous way.
So maybe that's the reason why a Mexican views this way of sending money like a pretty awesome.
So maybe that's the reason why it's not so much popular in Mexico because like a bank support like anonymous sending money.
That is news to me.
Like I said, I'm thinking like couldn't that potentially be utilized by those who want to sell Monero for cash in Mexico?
That could be a great way to sell Monero for cash, have people sending you pesos via these ATMs or these bank...
Thank others.
Minimum colleagues and friends, they successfully started to use Havana, you know Havana, definitely.
So it seems like Havana is pretty good and it works like in many European countries now.
And for sure it will work like in Mexico, I think.
But these like anonymous bank deposits are just big competition for Monero, I think.
That's really interesting. That's really interesting. That's got me thinking.
Crypto talk, tip 50 cents.
After reading Roger Varys hijacking Bitcoin and hearing comments from influential BTC maxis like Max Kaiser,
I believe there eventually may be attempts by BTC oligarchs for governments in the West to ban all other crypto.
Thoughts on the probabilities.
So this guy is saying he thinks you know there might be some attempt to essentially ban cryptos like Monero
since Bitcoin has been co-opted.
So the same people that have co-opted Bitcoin will now attempt to ban the others.
Yeah, to be sincere I understand this fear and it may happen.
I hope it won't but it may happen for sure.
Like especially in Europe, not sure about like the US but especially in Europe like Bitcoin maxis are really, really strong.
I mean all Bitcoin conferences in Europe are maxed.
A Bitcoin conference is truly like a Bitcoin maxi conference where they totally hate like any crypto which is not Bitcoin.
Maybe Monero is the only exception.
For me, Bitcoin maxis there is like a Bitcoin which is like a really good coin.
Everything else is like a shit coin and there is Monero.
This is like a typical Bitcoin maxi board.
And yeah, it's likely that something like that may happen in the future.
But for example, what is quite interesting in Argentina or in Latin America, we don't know like these Bitcoin maxis.
Like for example, there is like a lot of Bitcoin, this biggest Bitcoin conference in Argentina.
And these people, they are definitely not Bitcoin maxis and they like old coins or any other coins, you know, cryptocurrencies.
They are not so strict.
But I can imagine that like that Bitcoin maxi like a wealth or super rich Bitcoin maxi people can just lobby politicians and enforce like a ban on anything.
What is not Bitcoin?
It's likely.
This doesn't affect like a Monero doll because you know, even now it's like almost outlawed, you know, like no one cares.
Yeah, it's already being attacked.
In Europe, we are actually using Monero despite the fact that all centralized crypto exchanges, they delisted Monero, you know.
It just means nothing.
We have just switched to underground.
Exactly, exactly.
I'm bringing up XMR Bizarre.
I'm curious, are you familiar with XMR Bizarre?
Because it's been growing here.
You told me about this project.
So we hit like a thousand listings.
It's a platform where people can buy and sell goods and services directly peer to peer with Monero with escrow built into it.
I think it's a good platform for you to perhaps help spread when trying to teach people about opting out.
I think that's the best way to opt out is you try to earn in Monero and then you try to live off Monero.
So you're not even dealing with Fiat.
You told me last time when you were planning to launch this project and I'm super happy that it's already like running and there are so many listings.
So thanks a lot for telling me this information because today I'm going to enter some new listings.
Fantastic.
And I'm going to promote it.
I'm super happy that it's such a project like this one.
Fantastic, man.
If you ever have any ideas, things that you think we should implement to make it better, to make it function better for people that are actually trying to opt out, let me know.
Let me know.
Obviously all there's.
Yeah, okay.
Go ahead.
I can ask for legal details.
How did you sell the families?
I'm sorry about the legal details behind this project.
How did you sell it?
Well, I mean, right now that you know, there's it's it's it's not a decentralized platform, right?
It's it is essential.
It is centralized, but no Monero goes through the platform at all.
All transactions are completely peer to peer.
So it's basically no difference than a Craigslist.
It's just a list listings platform where people can list goods and services for sale.
There's a terms of service that saying they need to follow the rules of their jurisdiction, right?
You can't go on here and list and start selling heroin for Monero in New York City, right?
We're going to we're going to boot that listing.
And we're saying that all users are responsible for filing the laws in their jurisdiction.
And then any transactions that are made, the platform doesn't touch Monero at all.
When you when you buy a book here online on XMR Bazaar for Monero,
you're sending Monero directly from from your account to the seller's Monero address.
So that that is the.
So you don't like it?
Yeah.
Go ahead.
So this is like a really good so you don't have like some like an extra legal responsibility.
Exactly.
We know we're not a we can't be labeled the money transmitter, right?
We never we never touch anybody's Monero at all.
We're just a listing service where people can say, hey, I'm interested in selling this for Monero
or I'm interested in buying this for Monero, bringing people together.
Really no difference than Craigslist with Monero addresses attached, right?
And then we do have a multi-sig built into it.
And once again, that multi-sig is non-custodial Monero XMR Bazaar never holds your Monero,
but there's a it's a third party, a mediator.
And the mediators just kind of like Havana, right?
So there's mediators that can act that can play a role in in a transaction.
And they could be the second signature to a transaction.
So it's it's based on, you know, a multi-signature escrow system where the there's the buyer,
the seller and the mediator and the mediators signature basically determines what direction
the Monero goes in if there's a dispute.
But that mediator is an XMR Bazaar.
So there's so XMR Bazaar never touches anybody's Monero.
And we don't collect any fees.
We don't collect any fees on people's transactions obviously because there's no way we can, right?
It's all peer to peer.
So there can't be an argument there that we're profiting from the transactions that are being made.
And that's kind of the legal structure we have.
I think I think this is like a really good approach because it just means you will be alive long.
Unless the other platforms, you know, like a like a door market.
Yeah, cool.
So good luck with this project and I'm going to and I'm going to list my items today.
Fantastic.
Yeah, I look forward to talking to you about it more when I'm down there.
Maybe get some more advice from you.
But yeah, we can talk about that stuff in person.
It looks like we have another, do we have another tip here?
Monkey tipped $1.50.
Super excited.
Our community is growing.
Yeah, 100%.
I mean, Pavel, what's your feel?
I mean, do you feel from your vantage point, you've been in crypto for a very long time.
Obviously we see the delistings that are happening, but overall, how do you feel about Monero in terms of adoption and strength
than actual?
To be sure, I can compare it because for example, Bitcoin community is really strong in Czech Republic, Slovakia, in Central Europe.
But what is the best about Monero?
And that's what I'm really, really sure is the community.
Like I think the Monero, not only community, but also like a conference, like a Monero conference.
I really enjoyed it.
It's like, I think like a Monero conference is a Monero community.
There are still some kind of underground, you know, like trust is super important, for example.
Yeah, so to be sincere, I especially appreciate like a community in case of Monero.
It's the best.
It's the really best.
Yeah, and I can compare it because I know really well like Bitcoin communities.
But yeah, because the reason behind it is because Monero community, people in Monero community.
Oh, shit.
He dropped.
Oh, he's back.
Yeah.
Okay.
So the reason why I appreciate and I think appreciate about Monero is the Monero community.
And the reason behind it is that people in Monero community, all of them are sure they're sure.
Two important values, privacy and freedom.
Yeah.
So it is like a for me, these two values like a freedom, privacy are the most important values in my life.
And that's why Monero community is so close to me and also people in this community, like a freedom in privacy.
And like there is no other community that share these two values like a freedom and privacy.
And that's why I love like a Monero and Monero community.
Fantastic.
Anything you'd like to see in terms of development in the community, like you're talking about Havino, we got XMR Bizarre.
But just in general, like what do you think Monero needs to take it to the next level of growth and adoption?
Like what's missing?
Or what needs to be done?
How do we continue to grow?
I think now extra hope we can get from the government when they start to introduce like technocracy and dystopia.
Unrealized capital gains will probably help.
Exactly.
I think like everything that should be done from Monero community was done.
And now I think to increase the community of Monero is just to wait for more dystopias.
You know what I mean?
Just to...
Like basically it's happening in Europe now.
It's happening in Europe.
For example, now in Slovakia, Slovak politicians introduce like a taxis from each banking transaction.
So you send like a money, like you do like any banking transaction, you have to pay extra tax from each transaction.
So now it makes sense to use crypto.
There is like a high incentive in Slovakia for people to use crypto because there is no tax and of course there is no way how to enforce tax from crypto.
So thanks to our like a super crazy dystopian politician, now we have the highest incentive to use crypto, especially Monero.
So I think that the next incentive to boost the Monero will come from politicians, not from Monero community.
They're doing a hell of a job, they're doing a hell of a job of making Monero useful, right?
Exactly, we should just be patient and wait, you know, like that's all.
And it's happening.
I think like so many, so many, so many my friends, they see Monero in Slovakia or Czech Republic, just because of that.
You know, like, so, yeah.
So we have, we should be, we should be just patient and that's all.
Don't worry.
Neolus tipped $1.23 of XMR, Bizarre ever becomes a decentralized anonymous marketplace in the future.
I think open Bizarre was an attempt at that.
Mark my words, this will be revolutionary, just like Kevino decks, decentralized and anonymize all the things.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
I mean, right now we're just trying to build a bridge, right?
We just want to make it as useful as possible to people to just trade goods and services peer-to-peer.
And I think it's a nice temporary bridge, sure, in the future if it could be decentralized and unstoppable.
But I think it serves a need as is and it gets us up and running right away.
But very, very good points.
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Pavel, anything else you want to mention now that we have you up on stage?
And obviously, you'll have the stage down at Monerotopia.
But anything you want to get out there right now?
I hope, I hope I will see everybody at Monerotopia.
So definitely come and we'll see you there.
Fantastic.
I'll see you soon, man.
It was great having you there last year.
Always love seeing you at Monerocon, by the way.
Yeah, bring some spending Monero.
You could do your holiday shopping.
So we'll be the Monero accepting marketplace.
So that's a big part of it as well.
And I'll see you soon.
I think I think last year we did like it, like it all Monerot, like it all Monerot,
high regarding like a number of transactions.
So don't worry.
Oh yeah.
Monerotopia.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
The marketplace, the marketplace, the woman that was running the marketplace said,
her vendors never made as much money as they made during Monerotopia.
So people, people were spending their Monero.
Obviously most of the vendors sold their Monero at the end for pesos,
but some of them did keep it.
I was telling tux and you'll see when you're down there again this year,
there's some of the same vendors because I went down there last weekend.
And on various weekends, you see some of the same vendors that were at Monerotopia
and they still have their Monero sticker and they still have their app running
and they're willing and ready to accept Monero payments.
And I spoke to one gentleman who had, you know,
he saved quite a bit of Monero from last Monerotopia
and he had said that he had made 50 additional transactions in Monero
since the last Monerotopia where random people saw that he had the sticker
and insisted on buying things off of him because he had accepted Monero.
Very, very encouraging to hear that.
Yeah.
Yeah, we should support all people who accept Monero.
That's my life hack, life approach.
Exactly.
Everything in Monero is possible for sure.
If you accept Monero, I'll be a customer.
Thank you for the invitation.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Thank you so much.
We'll see you soon.
See you in like three weeks.
Adios.