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at least before they did us the courtesy of trying to be

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cagey about it. And now it's so out in the open, we've seen poll numbers showing that

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American favorability toward Israel is at an all-time low. So you can imagine

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what American favorability toward people who just lobby for Israel 24 hours a day must be.

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They're really thinking that they're going to handle this by just denying everything.

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There is no such thing as Israel first. You anti-Semites made that up. They're just

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going to deny everything instead of saying, well, yeah, a lot of us have a deep and

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profound abiding concern for Israel for personal reasons, but also for strategic

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reasons that we think are shared by the United States. And let me list them for you.

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Now, how often do you get that? I mean, Robert, you for a long time, as was I,

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would be counted in Israel's corner. And when you had some misgivings that you started to

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express, did anybody say to you, oh, Robert, listen, you've been such a wonderful ally,

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the least we can do that we owe you as decent human beings is to just explain to you a little

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bit better what the strategic value of Israel to the U.S. is. I would tend to think nobody.

