WEBVTT

00:02.350 --> 00:07.390
It's time for Declare Your Independence with Ernest Hancock.

00:07.770 --> 00:12.430
Believe me when I say we have a difficult time ahead of us.

00:12.690 --> 00:18.710
But if we are to be prepared for it, we must first shed our fear of it.

00:19.470 --> 00:23.830
I stand here without fear because I remember.

00:24.690 --> 00:28.850
I remember that I am here not because of the path that lies before me,

00:28.850 --> 00:31.770
but because of the path that lies behind me.

00:32.470 --> 00:36.610
I remember that for 100 years we have fought these machines.

00:37.530 --> 00:43.050
And after a century of war, I remember that which matters most.

00:44.390 --> 00:45.330
We are still here.

00:51.120 --> 00:52.940
Let's make them remember.

00:53.500 --> 01:05.080
We are not up for it.

01:10.680 --> 01:13.640
Declare Your Independence with Ernest Hancock

01:13.640 --> 01:17.760
from the southern desert west of Phoenix.

01:18.360 --> 01:24.420
We are about 25 miles west of Palo Verde Nuclear Power Plant,

01:24.580 --> 01:26.340
which is one of the big ones.

01:27.560 --> 01:29.300
Is it a target?

01:30.280 --> 01:32.600
I don't want to live next to it.

01:33.500 --> 01:37.900
We are vulnerable in that regard.

01:38.540 --> 01:43.060
But electricity really doesn't affect us except right at the start of the show.

01:43.060 --> 01:46.040
I had the pool pump on.

01:46.500 --> 01:48.040
We have the hot water.

01:48.300 --> 01:50.000
We clicked on electrical hot water.

01:50.100 --> 01:51.880
Donna wanted to take a shower.

01:52.060 --> 01:52.980
You know the hot water.

01:53.360 --> 01:55.360
We got the evaporative cooler.

01:55.500 --> 01:56.620
We got the air conditioner on.

01:56.720 --> 01:57.520
We got all the studios.

01:57.760 --> 02:01.100
And then I hit the microwave and it went no.

02:01.680 --> 02:03.140
You know you maxed it.

02:03.260 --> 02:05.500
Finally this new system I maxed it out.

02:05.900 --> 02:10.720
Well Donna always was paranoid before she doesn't do the microwave with the hot water on it.

02:10.720 --> 02:12.400
I was like turn on everything man.

02:12.760 --> 02:13.280
Whatever.

02:13.580 --> 02:14.260
I wasn't worried about it.

02:14.340 --> 02:15.700
I had to worry about it.

02:15.700 --> 02:18.400
So it took us a little bit to get that back up.

02:18.500 --> 02:19.560
Small price to pay.

02:20.100 --> 02:23.780
You click off the breaker to the hot water here while you are using the microwave.

02:24.300 --> 02:25.780
And you got everything else on.

02:26.240 --> 02:27.860
But we are doing pretty good.

02:28.260 --> 02:28.800
But energy?

02:29.520 --> 02:31.580
Oh other people not so good.

02:32.560 --> 02:36.200
And it is affecting entire regions.

02:36.560 --> 02:37.220
Not just countries.

02:38.000 --> 02:38.520
Continents.

02:38.520 --> 02:40.840
And this is not in why.

02:41.500 --> 02:41.920
Why.

02:42.540 --> 02:43.080
Why.

02:43.780 --> 02:44.320
Why.

02:46.240 --> 02:47.700
America and her interest.

02:48.720 --> 02:49.920
Or Israel.

02:51.160 --> 02:54.080
And what was the reason for that?

02:54.600 --> 02:55.940
There was a book.

02:56.280 --> 02:58.360
We are going to get into this later today.

02:58.540 --> 02:59.940
We have a friend Andrew Stremick.

03:00.520 --> 03:03.860
You know young man that is probably now like almost 40 probably.

03:03.860 --> 03:07.860
But he is a young girlfriend now.

03:08.000 --> 03:09.480
His wife and five kids.

03:10.060 --> 03:11.760
Four boys and a girl I think.

03:11.980 --> 03:12.720
I think it is five.

03:13.340 --> 03:16.240
And he lives in the Prescott area.

03:16.780 --> 03:17.700
He has his own business.

03:18.260 --> 03:19.700
He is in the medical industry.

03:20.080 --> 03:25.900
What happens is he has really done at least has an opinion.

03:26.460 --> 03:30.000
And done study on the book of Revelation.

03:30.820 --> 03:36.620
And there is a book when I in high school right after high school.

03:36.740 --> 03:39.000
I remember the early 80's late 70's.

03:39.600 --> 03:43.200
The book called The Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey.

03:43.380 --> 03:44.240
Which I have interviewed.

03:44.640 --> 03:47.600
You know subsequently probably a decade ago.

03:48.300 --> 03:52.120
And found out he lived here in the valley in Scottsdale.

03:52.440 --> 03:53.420
Fountain Hills area or something.

03:53.940 --> 03:54.920
And we had him on.

03:55.320 --> 03:56.920
And we got to talk about this.

03:56.920 --> 04:00.200
And I should go down to find that Hal Lindsey.

04:01.420 --> 04:03.980
Interview I did put up on today's show will you please.

04:04.220 --> 04:06.680
So you guys can check that out now.

04:07.160 --> 04:08.960
It wasn't a very large book.

04:09.360 --> 04:10.540
You know it's paperback.

04:10.800 --> 04:13.100
And it's like how many pages is this thing.

04:13.420 --> 04:16.340
It's like a lesson 200 189 or something.

04:16.940 --> 04:19.980
And I remember I read it one time.

04:19.980 --> 04:22.640
God almost 40 50 years ago.

04:23.740 --> 04:25.780
And it had a script.

04:26.540 --> 04:28.300
It was a template.

04:28.500 --> 04:29.440
It was a timeline.

04:30.480 --> 04:31.780
This has to happen.

04:32.040 --> 04:32.800
Then this will happen.

04:32.980 --> 04:33.700
And this will happen.

04:34.020 --> 04:35.980
And this will happen and Armageddon.

04:36.620 --> 04:41.780
And you know the Jerusalem heaven on earth.

04:42.140 --> 04:43.520
And kind of the rapture.

04:43.680 --> 04:45.700
A bunch of interpretations.

04:46.440 --> 04:49.180
Now a lot of that a lot of that stuff may have already happened.

04:49.180 --> 04:51.800
You know a thousand years ago.

04:51.860 --> 04:53.580
Or it could be conflated with what.

04:54.000 --> 04:55.440
But that wasn't the point.

04:56.360 --> 04:58.540
The point was taking the Bible.

04:59.000 --> 05:00.180
Taking the prophecies.

05:00.440 --> 05:02.400
Taking the narrative and these stories.

05:02.940 --> 05:06.240
And putting it into like shoehorn in it.

05:06.480 --> 05:08.080
Into current events.

05:08.500 --> 05:11.720
Now to give you the feeling of inevitability.

05:12.420 --> 05:13.600
This war is going to happen.

05:14.100 --> 05:15.320
This is how it's going to happen.

05:15.720 --> 05:17.260
This who's going to get blamed for it.

05:17.260 --> 05:19.700
They even got a rule for God for Russia.

05:19.900 --> 05:22.020
Gog and Magog from the north.

05:22.420 --> 05:26.940
They'll come in and the Armageddon is an actual place.

05:27.560 --> 05:32.120
It is a physical geographic place in northern Israel I think

05:32.120 --> 05:34.280
or Syria or whatever that.

05:35.660 --> 05:38.900
The soldiers that come will have their eyes consumed

05:38.900 --> 05:41.320
from their sockets and the flesh from their bones.

05:42.020 --> 05:43.160
Damn that sounds nuclear.

05:43.160 --> 05:47.460
So this is a script that they're following.

05:48.260 --> 05:51.700
And through the seminaries and the training of pastors

05:51.700 --> 05:54.180
they get all Israelized.

05:54.720 --> 05:56.280
This is the rule one.

05:56.800 --> 06:00.280
Support Israel because because because we said damn it.

06:00.280 --> 06:01.060
And here's the money.

06:01.520 --> 06:05.160
So this has been going on for generations.

06:06.080 --> 06:09.720
Since the latter part of the 19th century.

06:09.720 --> 06:14.660
I mean it was you know late 1800's Zionism.

06:15.580 --> 06:16.260
Here we go.

06:18.560 --> 06:19.520
Christian Zionism.

06:19.680 --> 06:22.160
Mazel just say alright you're allowed to wear a crucifix

06:22.160 --> 06:24.560
and believe in Jesus Christ as your savior

06:24.560 --> 06:29.200
but you're definitely doing the work of Israel government

06:29.200 --> 06:31.960
and what we want and we're going to get and kick out

06:31.960 --> 06:34.300
and we got a deed in the Bible and kind of

06:34.880 --> 06:35.980
we're going to do it then.

06:35.980 --> 06:38.020
Alright. Now that's why Andrew is going to come out.

06:38.120 --> 06:42.120
He's a common friend of Dr. Frank Tambory and I.

06:42.940 --> 06:45.560
And on this Trump report today he's going to be here

06:45.560 --> 06:48.400
an hour and a half or so that noon.

06:49.200 --> 06:51.220
And well our time noon an hour and a half.

06:51.600 --> 06:55.040
And what he's going to do is go over what his

06:55.040 --> 06:56.360
impression is.

06:56.800 --> 07:01.060
You know his study, his church they go over this

07:01.060 --> 07:05.540
and we have later probably next in April

07:05.800 --> 07:08.760
you know mid-April around in there is when

07:08.760 --> 07:11.680
we have scheduled Chuck Baldwin.

07:12.260 --> 07:14.600
Now Chuck Baldwin is a pastor used to be

07:14.600 --> 07:17.860
in Florida and he moved his congregation to Montana

07:17.860 --> 07:21.040
to get ready for and he ran for president

07:21.040 --> 07:23.520
on the constitutional party endorsed

07:24.060 --> 07:28.260
by Ron Paul in the 08 election year.

07:29.240 --> 07:32.540
So the boys got it going on and he was part of

07:32.540 --> 07:36.260
this whole indoctrination during the 80's

07:36.260 --> 07:39.200
this moral majority thing and are you born again Christian?

07:39.400 --> 07:41.360
He saw what was happening.

07:41.720 --> 07:45.100
How they were turning over the congregation

07:45.760 --> 07:47.340
to the whims of the man.

07:48.060 --> 07:50.520
And he's like nope, nope, nope, not doing it.

07:50.700 --> 07:52.040
Wouldn't be prudent at this juncture.

07:52.440 --> 07:55.400
So that's what we're going to be kind of

07:55.400 --> 07:56.660
building up to today.

07:57.100 --> 08:00.120
Because the lake rate plan of the earth is not

08:00.120 --> 08:03.560
you know you probably get through it in a day

08:03.560 --> 08:07.620
but it is all about this prophecy

08:08.300 --> 08:12.360
that I don't know if this

08:13.340 --> 08:16.040
analyzed the prophecy that was already there

08:16.040 --> 08:19.300
or it kind of took scripture and twisted it into a

08:19.300 --> 08:22.420
script but it doesn't matter because this

08:22.420 --> 08:24.620
script is what they're following.

08:25.380 --> 08:27.680
Some of the highlights that I remember as a young man

08:27.680 --> 08:30.060
reading this was that one,

08:30.880 --> 08:33.600
you have to have the rebuilding of the temple

08:34.200 --> 08:36.860
which I think it's for the third time or something.

08:37.300 --> 08:40.480
You know it was sacked and raised in the ground

08:40.480 --> 08:42.480
during the invasion of whatever

08:42.480 --> 08:45.060
then they Solomon rebuilt and did it again

08:45.060 --> 08:48.880
and then you know now well where that location is

08:49.640 --> 08:52.760
we'll get a lot of the details more accurate

08:52.760 --> 08:55.560
from Andrew but as I remember

08:55.560 --> 08:59.340
it was where Christ was crucified

08:59.580 --> 09:01.660
or had something to do with the history

09:01.660 --> 09:04.020
of Christ and Jerusalem there

09:04.580 --> 09:08.260
and the temple was built on

09:08.260 --> 09:10.540
by Dome of the Rock.

09:11.020 --> 09:13.400
The Dome of the Rock is a Muslim temple

09:13.400 --> 09:16.040
that's right on where the old temple of

09:16.040 --> 09:18.500
the Jews needs to be and we got to take care of

09:18.500 --> 09:20.220
the business we got to get rid of that

09:20.220 --> 09:23.500
we got to do something so that has to happen.

09:24.260 --> 09:25.700
Dome of the Rock comes down

09:25.700 --> 09:28.480
the temple goes up and there will be

09:28.480 --> 09:31.180
consternation on that one I guarantee it.

09:32.040 --> 09:34.640
Then there has to be the consecration of that

09:34.640 --> 09:36.820
temple which will be done by a perfect

09:38.140 --> 09:40.200
sacrifice of a red heifer

09:40.200 --> 09:42.080
and you got all these rabbis going around

09:42.820 --> 09:45.200
inspecting and doing anal probes on

09:45.200 --> 09:49.220
red heifer cows to be the sacrificial

09:49.220 --> 09:51.800
whatever I mean you know so there's that.

09:52.060 --> 09:55.880
Then there was a couple of other things

09:55.880 --> 09:59.040
that needed to happen and it brings about

09:59.040 --> 10:03.080
what is really going on right now

10:03.080 --> 10:05.580
and they're building up to this

10:05.950 --> 10:10.360
and trying to bring the prophecy to

10:10.360 --> 10:13.940
fruition and using that as justification

10:13.940 --> 10:16.360
for killing people and getting killed.

10:16.820 --> 10:18.820
Of course not them and their sons but yours.

10:19.520 --> 10:21.860
So this is what we're going to be talking about

10:21.860 --> 10:24.220
now up until that time we'll go over

10:24.220 --> 10:26.480
the news a little bit hopefully

10:26.480 --> 10:30.000
and talk about what's going on now.

10:30.180 --> 10:32.620
There is a bunch of things that are going on

10:32.620 --> 10:35.380
and then during the show we have staff

10:35.380 --> 10:37.240
and Don is putting up a bunch of stories

10:37.240 --> 10:39.140
that will give us more to talk about

10:39.140 --> 10:43.020
but current events really need

10:43.020 --> 10:44.860
to get some attention today Frank.

10:45.800 --> 10:48.920
So Frank got some current events.

10:50.940 --> 10:53.600
Well I'm trying to blend all this together

10:54.960 --> 10:57.620
I think we'll get to it later

10:57.620 --> 10:59.880
as we kind of segue into I think

10:59.880 --> 11:02.860
when Andrew's coming you know about

11:02.860 --> 11:04.860
the about what's going on with

11:04.860 --> 11:07.600
Israel and the Bible the Scofield Bible

11:07.600 --> 11:09.220
a lot of things you're just setting up

11:11.920 --> 11:13.540
it's interesting because

11:13.540 --> 11:16.200
it highlights that what we're really in

11:16.200 --> 11:18.320
is the religious war at the end of the day

11:18.320 --> 11:21.940
but the religious war is of course

11:21.940 --> 11:24.260
pitting the religious Zionists

11:24.260 --> 11:26.640
from America at the same time

11:26.640 --> 11:28.320
religious Zionists in Israel

11:28.320 --> 11:30.780
and I did some research on this

11:30.780 --> 11:32.420
we'll get into it later but the breakdown

11:32.420 --> 11:35.480
of the Israeli populace

11:35.480 --> 11:36.820
they're kind of like in the thirds

11:36.820 --> 11:38.680
and one of the themes I've been finding

11:39.780 --> 11:43.120
well just it's been existing for a while

11:43.120 --> 11:44.780
but even over this past week

11:44.780 --> 11:46.180
which gets into more current events

11:46.180 --> 11:48.340
is that how more and more countries

11:48.340 --> 11:49.940
including elections that happened

11:49.940 --> 11:52.360
in Italy this week in France

11:53.880 --> 11:55.900
there's another one that will come to me here

11:55.900 --> 11:58.320
and what's interesting is that

11:58.320 --> 12:00.960
we're seeing a change in the electorate

12:00.960 --> 12:02.680
in many of these western countries

12:03.900 --> 12:05.480
westerners again the ones that are

12:05.480 --> 12:07.900
kind of isolated homogenous countries

12:07.900 --> 12:10.300
like obviously Russia and China

12:10.300 --> 12:12.420
India they're not having these problems as much

12:12.420 --> 12:13.640
but these western countries

12:13.640 --> 12:15.740
they're being split into thirds

12:15.740 --> 12:17.760
you know for most of the time

12:17.760 --> 12:18.780
we've been seeing

12:19.460 --> 12:20.200
we've been seeing

12:21.220 --> 12:23.540
kind of more of a duopoly

12:23.540 --> 12:24.800
just like here in America

12:24.800 --> 12:26.820
Democrats Republicans we tend to see that

12:27.480 --> 12:29.300
and then

12:29.300 --> 12:31.760
over the last 15-20 years

12:31.760 --> 12:34.120
there was kind of a collapse of the conservatives

12:34.120 --> 12:35.640
in all different countries

12:35.640 --> 12:37.660
whatever you call them each country has a different name

12:37.660 --> 12:38.980
for what we would call conservatives

12:38.980 --> 12:41.700
like in England they have different names

12:41.700 --> 12:44.180
but the philosophy was more

12:44.180 --> 12:46.400
of the conservative nationalist view

12:46.400 --> 12:48.320
but the nationalist view often

12:48.320 --> 12:50.720
often also came with it

12:50.720 --> 12:51.960
the religious view

12:51.960 --> 12:53.860
so it's like you have the nationalists

12:53.860 --> 12:56.180
the people we won't go to it

12:56.180 --> 12:57.400
but you know the culture people

12:57.400 --> 12:59.160
the old-fashioned conservatives

12:59.160 --> 13:02.220
the religious but they always brought the religious part to it

13:02.220 --> 13:04.040
and then you had the other group

13:04.040 --> 13:05.500
that was more secular

13:05.500 --> 13:07.440
and the progressives

13:07.440 --> 13:10.420
the people who don't look at the past

13:10.420 --> 13:11.460
they're looking at the future

13:11.460 --> 13:13.800
they're always thinking that the past was bad

13:13.800 --> 13:15.160
and we have to keep you know progress

13:15.160 --> 13:17.900
and those two concepts

13:17.900 --> 13:19.220
are always in flux

13:20.060 --> 13:21.240
they're always in flux

13:22.200 --> 13:23.880
you know the people want to move forward

13:23.880 --> 13:25.280
and the people like to stay in the past

13:25.280 --> 13:26.940
that's a grand oversimplification

13:26.940 --> 13:29.580
but that's kind of where this tension has been

13:29.580 --> 13:32.020
but religion has always been more towards the past

13:32.020 --> 13:33.840
at least of the last

13:33.840 --> 13:35.200
you know 50-80 years

13:35.200 --> 13:37.480
I mean why progressives

13:37.480 --> 13:39.660
can't be religious too and many of them are to be clear

13:40.520 --> 13:42.380
but that's kind of what we've seen

13:42.380 --> 13:43.760
but as more and more people

13:43.760 --> 13:45.500
away from the churches

13:45.500 --> 13:47.900
the world has become much more secular

13:47.900 --> 13:49.760
the conservative wings

13:49.760 --> 13:51.560
of all these different western countries

13:51.560 --> 13:53.820
have kind of just shriveled on the vine

13:53.820 --> 13:55.420
and they've lost power everywhere

13:56.520 --> 13:57.740
and that's when

13:57.740 --> 13:59.200
we had this monolithic

14:00.220 --> 14:00.740
monolithic

14:00.740 --> 14:02.740
kind of a centrist

14:03.620 --> 14:05.580
party that sort of

14:05.580 --> 14:07.900
just dominated just like we saw in our country

14:07.900 --> 14:08.620
like the liberals

14:08.620 --> 14:11.580
the far left, the liberals, the independents

14:11.580 --> 14:12.860
they're all kind of in that one realm

14:12.860 --> 14:15.600
and that's where the conservative wings will have been

14:15.600 --> 14:17.620
popping up obviously with Donald Trump

14:17.620 --> 14:19.780
we also see this with Milani

14:20.520 --> 14:21.760
Maloney in Italy

14:22.720 --> 14:24.280
we're seeing this in Japan

14:24.280 --> 14:25.740
you know all of a sudden

14:25.740 --> 14:27.840
all at the same time these countries

14:27.840 --> 14:29.640
are seeing these more conservative movements

14:29.640 --> 14:30.340
coming out

14:31.180 --> 14:33.280
but at least in America and Israel

14:34.020 --> 14:35.560
we'll get into the Israel thing later

14:35.560 --> 14:37.760
about the thirds specifically

14:38.840 --> 14:39.320
but

14:39.320 --> 14:41.720
it's like all of a sudden they're bringing the religion

14:41.720 --> 14:43.260
angle to it and

14:43.260 --> 14:45.340
what each of these countries are now doing

14:45.340 --> 14:47.660
is they're starting to have a new

14:47.660 --> 14:49.400
party or a new movement

14:49.400 --> 14:51.560
occurring and I'm seeing this pattern

14:51.560 --> 14:53.220
and every one of these countries I mentioned

14:53.220 --> 14:55.160
including America and in Israel

14:55.160 --> 14:56.920
is now we're starting to see

14:56.920 --> 14:59.080
a third party

14:59.080 --> 15:01.100
finally emerge and when I say third party

15:01.100 --> 15:03.200
and with all due respect we're all libertarians

15:03.200 --> 15:04.080
most of us on this

15:04.600 --> 15:06.320
podcast, at least background

15:07.040 --> 15:09.300
the libertarian party has been the real

15:09.300 --> 15:11.460
third or the true third party

15:11.460 --> 15:12.960
the third largest party in America

15:12.960 --> 15:15.020
but you know because the politics

15:15.020 --> 15:16.840
the way it is it's been the duopoly

15:16.840 --> 15:19.140
but what we're starting to see now in all these countries

15:19.140 --> 15:20.940
is a new truth

15:20.940 --> 15:22.940
a large third party

15:23.720 --> 15:24.840
that's blending

15:24.840 --> 15:26.660
the moderates

15:26.660 --> 15:29.100
the independence from each of these countries by the way

15:29.100 --> 15:31.020
and on and kind of

15:31.020 --> 15:33.080
common sense liberal minded

15:33.080 --> 15:35.080
people if you can use that

15:35.080 --> 15:36.420
as an oxymoron for some of you

15:36.420 --> 15:38.920
but then like the young Turks we use them as an example

15:38.920 --> 15:40.860
in America but on the other hand

15:40.860 --> 15:42.960
we're starting to see they split

15:42.960 --> 15:45.100
as we're seeing right now including this week

15:45.100 --> 15:46.540
I mean Owen Shrier

15:47.180 --> 15:48.520
many I mean every

15:48.520 --> 15:50.580
every week these podcasters

15:50.580 --> 15:52.340
and people in

15:52.340 --> 15:53.720
the publications are

15:54.370 --> 15:56.340
blending with MAGA becoming much more overt

15:56.340 --> 15:59.060
like it's completely dead and they have nowhere to go

15:59.060 --> 16:00.720
and you're starting to see them

16:00.720 --> 16:02.480
you know giving up the religious

16:02.480 --> 16:04.400
angle but they want to keep to the

16:04.400 --> 16:05.040
conservative

16:06.180 --> 16:08.380
you know the nationalist component I don't use the

16:08.380 --> 16:10.520
C word there but you know it's like the nationalist movement

16:10.520 --> 16:12.680
minus the religious overtones

16:12.680 --> 16:14.500
in this case the Zionism

16:14.500 --> 16:16.000
but for each of these other countries

16:16.000 --> 16:17.820
that they're all going through the same thing so

16:17.820 --> 16:19.120
we're seeing what now

16:19.970 --> 16:21.900
a three

16:21.900 --> 16:23.640
columns of

16:23.640 --> 16:25.980
political movements in these nations where there's

16:25.980 --> 16:28.000
only been two and for

16:28.000 --> 16:30.200
many of them in the last 20 years only one

16:30.200 --> 16:31.840
so we went from two for

16:31.840 --> 16:33.820
like decades down to one

16:33.820 --> 16:35.680
most dominant party like Macron

16:35.680 --> 16:37.660
in France his centrist party

16:37.660 --> 16:39.540
was dominant for decades

16:39.540 --> 16:42.320
well he's now getting squeezed out

16:42.320 --> 16:44.200
just like what's happened starting happening in America

16:44.200 --> 16:46.420
where now there's a far left party

16:46.420 --> 16:48.160
and there's a right party

16:48.160 --> 16:50.460
and the centrist party is just getting

16:50.460 --> 16:52.280
squeezed out we're seeing that

16:52.280 --> 16:54.160
in Israel actually right now

16:54.160 --> 16:56.220
and we're starting to and of course

16:56.220 --> 16:58.260
we're seeing this in America well we saw that

16:58.260 --> 17:00.160
again with Italy with their elections

17:00.160 --> 17:02.040
recently so anyway

17:02.040 --> 17:03.500
I'm just I appreciate the time

17:03.980 --> 17:05.720
it's an overview

17:05.720 --> 17:08.140
kind of theme that I've been seeing

17:08.140 --> 17:09.840
with the central dovetail later on

17:09.840 --> 17:11.780
when Andrew's on

17:11.780 --> 17:12.900
on the phone because

17:13.400 --> 17:14.640
I like to bring up the

17:15.620 --> 17:17.300
history and the Bible perspective

17:17.300 --> 17:19.680
how it relates to Israel and their politics

17:19.680 --> 17:21.340
but it's an interesting theme

17:21.340 --> 17:23.580
and also which

17:23.580 --> 17:25.060
kind of doves a little bit with religion

17:25.060 --> 17:27.360
is there was a conference I found out about

17:27.360 --> 17:28.680
it was a Catholic

17:28.680 --> 17:30.960
it was the American Catholic

17:32.400 --> 17:33.360
annual conference

17:33.360 --> 17:35.040
whatever they had it in Washington DC

17:35.040 --> 17:36.760
last week I don't know if you heard about it

17:36.760 --> 17:38.660
there was some hubbub about it

17:38.660 --> 17:40.740
because Candace Owens was going

17:40.740 --> 17:42.820
to speak there now I don't want to make this about Candace

17:42.820 --> 17:44.380
but you know Catholics

17:44.380 --> 17:46.120
are not Zionist apparently

17:46.120 --> 17:48.620
apparently that's baked into the religion

17:48.620 --> 17:50.380
I'm not a Catholic enough

17:50.380 --> 17:52.200
to state that but that's what I've

17:52.200 --> 17:54.700
heard including that lady who

17:54.700 --> 17:56.920
was canned from the

17:56.920 --> 17:58.840
was it the religious diversity board

17:58.840 --> 18:00.160
a few weeks ago remember

18:00.160 --> 18:02.560
the blonde lady from California and she was on

18:02.560 --> 18:03.840
the board appointed by Trump

18:03.840 --> 18:06.380
and she just was questioning

18:06.380 --> 18:08.320
during her board she was a board number about

18:08.320 --> 18:09.880
about what about

18:09.880 --> 18:12.260
do you have to support Zionism as Zionism

18:12.260 --> 18:14.120
considered anti-Semitic

18:14.120 --> 18:16.120
and they candor right because she was not politically

18:16.120 --> 18:18.000
correct well she also was

18:18.000 --> 18:20.000
talking about how the Catholic Church does not

18:20.000 --> 18:21.860
support Zionism so that becomes

18:21.860 --> 18:23.020
a religious

18:23.680 --> 18:25.860
right there and so

18:25.860 --> 18:28.080
which I didn't realize exists and if it's not

18:28.080 --> 18:29.980
100% for those of you who are Catholics

18:29.980 --> 18:32.160
I apologize but that's what I've been led

18:32.160 --> 18:33.800
to believe here and so

18:33.800 --> 18:36.060
and so the Catholics had their conference

18:36.060 --> 18:37.720
and you had Candace Owens there

18:37.720 --> 18:39.700
you had Matt Walsh

18:39.700 --> 18:41.580
showed up which is he spoke there

18:41.580 --> 18:43.680
which was interesting because Matt

18:43.680 --> 18:45.520
and Candace are both from the daily wire

18:45.520 --> 18:47.460
and both of them are

18:47.940 --> 18:49.820
you probably haven't talked at all and I'm sure

18:49.820 --> 18:51.820
they had something to talk about with Ben Shapiro which

18:51.820 --> 18:53.880
you know whether you like it or not or any he's definitely

18:53.880 --> 18:55.720
driving not just the news but foreign

18:55.720 --> 18:57.740
policy in our country so

18:57.740 --> 19:00.160
he is a mover shaker as much as I hate to say it

19:00.160 --> 19:01.540
Ben Shapiro

19:01.540 --> 19:04.100
is that what you're saying yeah yeah Ben Shapiro

19:04.100 --> 19:05.100
I mean he's

19:05.860 --> 19:07.580
he's just an icon

19:07.580 --> 19:09.300
of what I mean

19:09.300 --> 19:11.460
well I mean I think more there's more

19:11.460 --> 19:13.520
and more you know another thing to Ernie

19:13.520 --> 19:14.680
I really believe

19:14.680 --> 19:17.500
I never would have said this on the show before

19:17.500 --> 19:19.540
but for reasons that take too long

19:19.540 --> 19:21.180
to explain I my sense

19:22.900 --> 19:23.680
is that

19:23.680 --> 19:25.620
Ben Shapiro really is a

19:25.620 --> 19:27.780
let's say I don't say officially getting a

19:27.780 --> 19:29.680
paycheck but you know I don't want to use anything

19:29.680 --> 19:30.860
but I don't know

19:31.480 --> 19:33.600
but a mouthpiece let's just say

19:33.600 --> 19:35.240
for Massad or for

19:35.820 --> 19:37.560
you know Israel obviously I mean

19:37.560 --> 19:39.760
he's certainly at say his BFF

19:39.760 --> 19:41.400
he's got the phone number of Netanyahu

19:41.400 --> 19:43.560
I'll probably leave it there so he's got

19:43.560 --> 19:45.620
just dual citizenship and he's got big

19:45.620 --> 19:47.440
homes there and he goes back and forth and he

19:47.440 --> 19:49.640
certainly is carrying a lot of weight

19:49.640 --> 19:51.480
trying to you know for Israel

19:51.480 --> 19:53.480
and trying to keep the young people

19:53.480 --> 19:55.800
on board with us that's what the daily wire was

19:55.800 --> 19:57.800
and apparently the takeover of turning

19:57.800 --> 19:59.680
point USA or at least the conversion

19:59.680 --> 20:01.560
of turning point into a

20:01.560 --> 20:03.980
all pro-Israel group right not without

20:03.980 --> 20:05.080
getting into the Charlie Kirk murder

20:06.540 --> 20:07.740
so yeah

20:07.740 --> 20:09.180
so I mean so you have

20:09.800 --> 20:11.540
him in that regard with

20:11.540 --> 20:13.860
Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson

20:13.860 --> 20:15.820
Ernie I have to tell you

20:15.820 --> 20:17.860
Nick Fuentes is accused

20:17.860 --> 20:19.480
of being a CIA operative

20:19.480 --> 20:21.700
because you know his family was

20:21.700 --> 20:22.900
part of CIA and I

20:22.900 --> 20:25.380
I kind of wonder if

20:25.380 --> 20:27.080
if Tucker Carlson is

20:27.080 --> 20:29.380
could be CIA and what I mean by

20:29.380 --> 20:30.960
that is I keep hearing about this

20:30.960 --> 20:33.280
that there's an intelligence war going on

20:33.280 --> 20:35.240
we've been you and I've been even talking about on

20:35.240 --> 20:36.860
prior shows like few years ago

20:36.860 --> 20:39.160
well true but that's

20:39.160 --> 20:40.860
the culture

20:41.320 --> 20:43.120
within these three letter agencies

20:43.120 --> 20:45.220
was dominant one way and

20:45.220 --> 20:46.820
just like any group there was a minority

20:47.880 --> 20:49.080
culture within them

20:49.080 --> 20:51.280
and then the whole Trump thing there was

20:51.280 --> 20:52.940
like the FBI we heard about that where

20:52.940 --> 20:54.860
there people in the FBI were trying

20:54.860 --> 20:56.940
to pop through the corruption

20:56.940 --> 20:59.060
that they saw during the whole Hillary Clinton stuff

20:59.060 --> 21:00.360
so I kind of wonder

21:00.360 --> 21:02.800
you know if Tucker is really a

21:02.800 --> 21:04.600
mouthpiece which he would be a very brilliant

21:04.600 --> 21:06.840
and smart way to do this because the amount

21:06.840 --> 21:08.360
of information the guests and

21:08.360 --> 21:10.460
what he comes up with and again

21:10.460 --> 21:13.000
he's a smart guy not to take anything away from him himself

21:13.000 --> 21:14.700
but I just feel he's

21:14.700 --> 21:17.020
a you know understandable

21:17.020 --> 21:18.920
I'm not saying it's the fairest

21:18.920 --> 21:20.740
but a mouthpiece for that

21:20.740 --> 21:23.180
part that's segment of the intelligence agency

21:23.180 --> 21:24.520
and we're seeing it being

21:24.520 --> 21:26.100
fought in the information wars

21:26.720 --> 21:28.600
every night I mean the just hearing

21:28.600 --> 21:30.740
the different sides of these arguments

21:30.740 --> 21:32.900
in in each day

21:32.900 --> 21:34.120
I mean it's like you're seeing a

21:35.000 --> 21:36.460
information war in a level

21:36.460 --> 21:38.700
that Alex Jones Mr. Infowork can never

21:38.700 --> 21:40.240
have have dreamed of

21:40.240 --> 21:41.860
but anyway before I finish the middle

21:41.860 --> 21:44.640
point I'll throw it back to you this is kind of a big view

21:44.640 --> 21:46.700
don't get into the news I would agree there's so much

21:46.700 --> 21:47.820
going on with

21:48.580 --> 21:50.160
averting just catastrophe

21:50.160 --> 21:52.180
with Iran and clock started

21:52.180 --> 21:53.800
and I definitely want to talk about

21:53.800 --> 21:56.000
Trump chickening

21:56.000 --> 21:57.720
out again and how he's getting back

21:57.720 --> 21:59.860
into a corner which is dangerous with

21:59.860 --> 22:01.500
his personality I think that's the real

22:01.500 --> 22:03.560
problem but the

22:03.560 --> 22:05.740
Catholic group you had

22:05.740 --> 22:07.760
Candace Owens Matt Walsh

22:07.760 --> 22:09.800
and you also had Joe

22:09.800 --> 22:11.900
Kent who didn't know he was a Catholic

22:11.900 --> 22:13.660
but I guess he's now the closet he spoke

22:13.660 --> 22:15.680
there and he is as well and there was a few other

22:16.240 --> 22:17.180
famous you know

22:17.180 --> 22:19.460
somewhat famous podcasters or

22:19.460 --> 22:21.160
people in the in the community

22:21.720 --> 22:22.680
speaking there and

22:23.640 --> 22:25.500
the the vibe is

22:25.500 --> 22:27.740
not just to get in about with the Catholics but the vibe

22:27.740 --> 22:28.940
is that people are feeling

22:29.900 --> 22:31.800
in that segment that a new movement

22:31.800 --> 22:33.680
is brewing now I know I know the last thing

22:33.680 --> 22:35.840
I want to do is sound like oh yeah let's

22:35.840 --> 22:37.620
vote harder and here we go again because I know

22:37.620 --> 22:39.400
he's going to have that whole speech but

22:39.400 --> 22:41.260
you know when I'm when I'm seeing in other

22:41.260 --> 22:43.540
countries the third rail that's

22:43.540 --> 22:45.620
evolving quickly in every one of these

22:45.620 --> 22:47.680
countries and that's what I was

22:47.680 --> 22:49.560
saying on your show a few weeks ago each

22:49.560 --> 22:51.540
week I kept every I would keep saying it's

22:51.540 --> 22:53.240
the earnings you know I'm seeing the young

22:53.240 --> 22:55.540
Turks and the Tucker crowd hate to just

22:55.540 --> 22:57.460
keep bringing them as placeholders but

22:57.460 --> 22:59.500
those two wings I keep

22:59.500 --> 23:00.940
seeing in more and more

23:02.140 --> 23:03.660
groups more and more individuals

23:03.660 --> 23:05.300
that have both of these ideologies

23:05.300 --> 23:07.500
and they're all holding hands I'm seeing

23:07.500 --> 23:09.580
this new movement I

23:09.580 --> 23:11.080
have to call it a party but a

23:11.080 --> 23:13.360
true movement that are all

23:13.360 --> 23:15.420
55 years and all and the younger

23:15.420 --> 23:17.220
most of them who've just

23:17.220 --> 23:19.220
been born and raised with nonstop wars

23:19.220 --> 23:21.540
being given all the debt and it's just

23:21.540 --> 23:23.080
you know we're being given

23:23.080 --> 23:25.060
the disaster country handed

23:25.060 --> 23:27.120
to us from the baby boomers which was a lot of that

23:27.120 --> 23:29.180
resentment there and

23:29.180 --> 23:31.040
they don't want the religion but they want

23:31.040 --> 23:33.080
nationalism to a certain degree they

23:33.080 --> 23:34.720
want to keep the America

23:34.720 --> 23:37.040
or the country that they have which

23:37.040 --> 23:38.880
kind of sparks that whole you know

23:38.880 --> 23:40.680
culture debate that you and I aren't going to have today

23:40.680 --> 23:42.560
but it's like that's what seems to be

23:42.560 --> 23:44.960
holding of this group together they're like

23:44.960 --> 23:47.020
look we don't want progress and change

23:47.020 --> 23:48.820
everything but on the other hand

23:48.820 --> 23:50.480
you know we don't want all the religion

23:50.480 --> 23:52.720
baggage stuck with us

23:52.720 --> 23:54.940
let's just can we just blow down

23:54.940 --> 23:56.840
and just have the country that we had in the past

23:56.840 --> 23:59.080
whether whether you agree with that or not it's not the issue

23:59.080 --> 24:01.020
but that's what this movement seems to

24:01.020 --> 24:02.920
be bridging these these people

24:02.920 --> 24:04.760
together and that Catholic

24:04.760 --> 24:06.820
conference it was such something

24:06.820 --> 24:08.460
about it it seemed to be kind of a

24:08.460 --> 24:10.840
a flash point for that bringing

24:10.840 --> 24:12.880
these people together not that it's all about Catholic

24:12.880 --> 24:14.840
of course but the discussion is being

24:14.840 --> 24:16.560
made and a lot of it with the

24:16.560 --> 24:18.880
with Joe Kent coming out I think this

24:18.880 --> 24:20.680
Joe Kent issue is

24:20.680 --> 24:22.780
it has a lot more mileage to go

24:22.780 --> 24:24.380
with it I mean

24:24.380 --> 24:26.880
him of his caliber and what he saw

24:26.880 --> 24:28.660
from the inside military

24:28.660 --> 24:30.920
people apparently the military

24:30.920 --> 24:33.020
the men you know the so-called

24:33.020 --> 24:34.900
boots they're about to be put on the ground

24:34.900 --> 24:36.820
we'll get into that of course when when you start

24:36.820 --> 24:39.040
with the news and all but you know the soldiers

24:39.640 --> 24:40.740
apparently are not

24:40.740 --> 24:42.660
happy at all with this

24:42.660 --> 24:44.740
engagement I mean the American people I mean

24:44.740 --> 24:46.840
what is it like only 30 or 40%

24:46.840 --> 24:48.740
of Americans are even in

24:48.740 --> 24:50.820
support of this engagement and that's from

24:50.820 --> 24:52.780
both parties so the troops

24:52.780 --> 24:54.880
are not on favor of this I'm sure the parents

24:54.880 --> 24:56.580
of the troops are not really in favor of this

24:56.580 --> 24:58.840
you're about to be thrown as cat and fodder

24:58.840 --> 25:00.860
just something where you know the goals have not

25:00.860 --> 25:02.900
been laid out and blah

25:02.900 --> 25:04.820
blah blah and now Joe Kent

25:04.820 --> 25:06.480
who is a certified

25:06.480 --> 25:09.140
veteran and hero to these people

25:09.140 --> 25:10.740
is showing for the first

25:10.740 --> 25:12.120
time who

25:12.120 --> 25:14.820
fellow military which you and I can't

25:14.820 --> 25:16.800
relate to you know the way that

25:16.800 --> 25:18.500
you know the real veterans and

25:18.500 --> 25:20.460
and military can

25:20.460 --> 25:22.700
he's showing behind the scenes

25:22.700 --> 25:24.760
what is going on and how these

25:24.760 --> 25:26.320
decisions are being made and how

25:26.680 --> 25:28.820
their lives are being used as the tokens

25:28.820 --> 25:30.520
they are and you know the people

25:30.520 --> 25:32.660
have got nothing to change without

25:32.660 --> 25:34.580
history there's always the kings

25:34.580 --> 25:36.840
and the queens they use their pawns

25:36.840 --> 25:38.400
just like in a chess game I get it

25:38.400 --> 25:40.520
but Joe Kent has really

25:40.520 --> 25:42.060
grabbed a flashpoint

25:42.060 --> 25:44.660
for the military before they're

25:44.660 --> 25:46.560
even on the ground so that's the

25:46.560 --> 25:48.620
huge part also we talked

25:48.620 --> 25:50.540
I brought up a few weeks ago

25:50.540 --> 25:52.400
how Joe Kent just looked

25:52.400 --> 25:54.400
so presidential in this other

25:54.400 --> 25:56.600
speech that he gave including the one he gave

25:56.600 --> 25:58.520
at the Catholic conference and more

25:58.520 --> 26:00.040
more people are talking about that

26:00.040 --> 26:02.240
whether he will or not I mean they even allow

26:02.240 --> 26:04.300
him of course but there's

26:04.300 --> 26:05.960
that and then Joe Kent also

26:05.960 --> 26:07.840
was rocked the boat in many other ways but

26:07.840 --> 26:09.800
one in particular is

26:10.460 --> 26:12.540
that he offered to testify

26:12.540 --> 26:14.520
at the Charlie Kirk

26:15.280 --> 26:16.660
assassination hearing right

26:16.660 --> 26:18.100
where the Tyler

26:19.040 --> 26:20.120
I'm sorry what's his name

26:20.120 --> 26:20.800
the one who

26:21.800 --> 26:23.880
the so called shooter

26:24.400 --> 26:26.520
when we shot so we'll see what happens

26:26.520 --> 26:28.540
but that's fascinating is that turning point

26:28.540 --> 26:29.980
USA is now

26:30.500 --> 26:32.600
they flipped out on their podcast

26:32.600 --> 26:34.260
just the other day hearing

26:34.260 --> 26:36.700
that Joe Kent is willing to testify

26:36.700 --> 26:37.940
that the

26:38.520 --> 26:41.160
FBI basically told him to shut down

26:41.160 --> 26:42.100
an investigation

26:42.100 --> 26:44.660
to look for more information into this right

26:44.660 --> 26:46.480
but that Joe Kent

26:46.480 --> 26:48.400
had reason to believe

26:48.400 --> 26:50.720
that foreign countries were somehow

26:50.720 --> 26:52.460
involved at least there was some leads

26:52.460 --> 26:54.600
he can't prove it but there are enough

26:54.600 --> 26:56.480
leads that it was worth investigating

26:56.480 --> 26:58.300
and he was told directly

26:58.300 --> 26:59.640
from a

26:59.640 --> 27:02.640
to shut it down and don't do it

27:02.640 --> 27:04.660
so you know that's something

27:04.660 --> 27:06.120
to add to the defense

27:06.120 --> 27:08.740
and you would think that Charlie

27:08.740 --> 27:10.860
Kirk family would want to have all the information

27:10.860 --> 27:12.360
right but no according to them

27:12.360 --> 27:14.600
nothing to see here it's already figured out

27:14.600 --> 27:16.460
and they're flipping out that Joe Kent

27:16.460 --> 27:18.780
is mentioning that with the notoriety

27:18.780 --> 27:20.800
that he's getting also Joe

27:20.800 --> 27:22.760
Kent seems to be in that interesting

27:22.760 --> 27:24.780
nexus of a new

27:24.780 --> 27:26.180
voice he's not

27:27.460 --> 27:28.740
Marco Rubio

27:28.740 --> 27:31.020
or any of the old same characters

27:31.020 --> 27:32.880
we kept thinking the politics

27:32.880 --> 27:34.580
of the future is going to have to be something

27:34.580 --> 27:36.320
new someone that

27:36.320 --> 27:38.680
is in that right spot

27:38.680 --> 27:40.960
that has earned people's

27:40.960 --> 27:41.180
trust

27:42.560 --> 27:44.200
from a sense

27:44.760 --> 27:46.580
of humility and authenticity

27:46.580 --> 27:48.940
and I'm not here trying to campaign for Joe

27:48.940 --> 27:49.780
Kent by the way but

27:50.380 --> 27:52.140
just like I talked about

27:52.140 --> 27:52.760
what's his name

27:53.520 --> 27:55.460
DeSantis and I brought up DeSantis to your

27:55.460 --> 27:57.520
attention before most people

27:57.520 --> 27:59.260
had really seen him on the political map

27:59.690 --> 28:00.980
Joe Kent is going to be a name

28:00.980 --> 28:04.300
and I'm seeing Joe Kent in this perfect spot

28:04.300 --> 28:06.100
I'm seeing this third rail

28:06.100 --> 28:07.540
pop up in all these other countries

28:07.540 --> 28:09.340
I'm seeing it unified

28:09.340 --> 28:10.600
in front of me

28:10.600 --> 28:13.620
through just my exploration of

28:13.620 --> 28:15.180
seeing the American

28:16.740 --> 28:17.280
Zeitgeist

28:17.280 --> 28:18.140
I won't use the C word

28:18.140 --> 28:21.120
as coming together in real time

28:21.120 --> 28:23.080
and so I just think

28:23.080 --> 28:24.720
whether it's good or bad or whether

28:25.280 --> 28:26.740
they're even allowed or they're going to say

28:26.740 --> 28:29.120
you need too many signatures and not going to get shown a ballot

28:29.120 --> 28:31.320
I know there's that whole election stuff

28:31.320 --> 28:32.080
and BS

28:33.000 --> 28:34.840
doesn't even matter because at the end of the day

28:34.840 --> 28:37.100
like you say it's a public opinion

28:37.100 --> 28:38.320
is what matters

28:38.320 --> 28:41.320
and that's what's changing but it's happening

28:41.320 --> 28:43.160
worldwide so when we get to Andrew

28:44.020 --> 28:45.260
when we get into the

28:45.260 --> 28:47.020
Israel three three rails because

28:47.020 --> 28:49.040
the three rails of their country

28:49.040 --> 28:51.140
of politics it makes a lot more

28:51.140 --> 28:52.760
sense when you understand the three

28:52.760 --> 28:54.520
sex and how they

28:55.060 --> 28:56.840
how they're antagonistic

28:56.840 --> 28:58.340
and yet what's bringing them together

28:59.500 --> 29:01.200
and the politics

29:01.200 --> 29:03.320
there it's very mirroring

29:03.320 --> 29:05.520
what we're dealing with right here

29:05.520 --> 29:07.260
just like they have a conservative wing

29:07.260 --> 29:08.400
that's a minority wing

29:08.400 --> 29:10.860
that's like the Schulffield Bible people

29:10.860 --> 29:11.540
Hey Ernie, here

29:11.540 --> 29:12.040
okay

29:12.980 --> 29:14.020
hold on

29:14.020 --> 29:14.680
alright

29:18.900 --> 29:19.580
it's alright

29:19.580 --> 29:20.740
the music is better than my voice

29:21.420 --> 29:23.340
so sometimes I'm typing

29:23.340 --> 29:24.360
on the wrong keyboard

29:26.180 --> 29:27.000
it's alright

29:27.660 --> 29:29.340
I'm such a nice it's okay

29:29.340 --> 29:30.740
but yeah so

29:30.740 --> 29:33.640
that was a good hit

29:33.640 --> 29:35.160
Ernie fair enough

29:35.160 --> 29:36.260
that was a good one though

29:36.260 --> 29:38.480
it better if you use tangerine dream

29:38.480 --> 29:39.740
to get my attention but

29:39.740 --> 29:41.820
what we're seeing is like a minority

29:42.140 --> 29:44.200
conservative group that's also

29:44.200 --> 29:45.500
very religious

29:45.500 --> 29:47.260
in both the

29:47.260 --> 29:50.220
in Israel with the Zionist

29:50.220 --> 29:51.880
the pro-Zionist wing

29:52.280 --> 29:54.080
of the Israeli

29:54.080 --> 29:54.720
political

29:55.980 --> 29:58.180
groupings which of course led by Benjamin

29:58.180 --> 30:00.400
Netanyahu and then on the flip

30:00.400 --> 30:02.620
side you have the Zionists

30:02.620 --> 30:03.760
that took over MAGA

30:03.760 --> 30:05.200
the Mike Huckabees

30:05.200 --> 30:07.100
the Ted Cruz

30:07.100 --> 30:08.200
all of that

30:08.200 --> 30:10.720
and of course Andrew will have a lot more

30:10.720 --> 30:12.800
to talk about that but it's almost like

30:12.800 --> 30:15.240
a telephone kind of like the old

30:15.240 --> 30:17.120
Styrofoam cups with the string

30:17.120 --> 30:19.280
you're having this communication

30:19.280 --> 30:21.200
of the minority

30:21.200 --> 30:23.400
conservative religious group

30:23.400 --> 30:25.480
of conservatives on each side

30:25.480 --> 30:26.920
that are linked together

30:26.920 --> 30:29.140
but these other

30:29.140 --> 30:30.760
two wings other two

30:30.760 --> 30:33.220
groupings or parties are now

30:33.920 --> 30:35.340
they're actually the majority

30:35.340 --> 30:37.220
if they would come together somehow

30:37.220 --> 30:38.820
and stop this but

30:39.560 --> 30:41.180
anyway that's more of a

30:41.180 --> 30:42.400
10,000 foot picture

30:42.400 --> 30:45.220
let's get to you as far as

30:45.220 --> 30:46.800
I saw on top of Freedom Phoenix

30:46.800 --> 30:48.740
and we have to address just the

30:48.740 --> 30:50.580
just the newsworthy of it

30:51.040 --> 30:52.920
that happened on Monday and

30:52.920 --> 30:55.280
Donald Trump said we're going to give

30:55.280 --> 30:57.240
you a few hours and

30:57.240 --> 30:59.340
then we're going to start bombing your infrastructure

30:59.340 --> 31:01.260
and these threats and then

31:01.260 --> 31:02.400
of course taco

31:03.260 --> 31:05.320
Ernie now knows what taco means

31:05.320 --> 31:07.140
it means Trump always checkins out

31:07.140 --> 31:08.500
and of course he

31:09.120 --> 31:10.560
bailed at the last minute on Monday

31:11.000 --> 31:13.360
which of course I'm happy he did

31:13.360 --> 31:14.980
but you know that type

31:14.980 --> 31:17.180
of threat that we could have

31:17.180 --> 31:19.060
had absolute Armageddon

31:19.060 --> 31:20.900
attacking all infrastructures

31:20.900 --> 31:23.360
of the entire Middle East

31:23.360 --> 31:24.980
not just with Iran or

31:24.980 --> 31:25.900
Israel's

31:25.900 --> 31:28.880
and I think Israel's a lot worse off than they

31:28.880 --> 31:30.720
let on which is why they're not allowing the cameras

31:30.720 --> 31:32.540
in I think also a lot of the

31:32.540 --> 31:34.560
settlers are leaving and if the more

31:34.560 --> 31:36.900
settlers leave that undermines their entire

31:37.620 --> 31:38.740
movement so there's

31:38.740 --> 31:40.840
a lot at stake with this

31:40.840 --> 31:42.960
but he checkins out and the last

31:42.960 --> 31:44.600
thing I'll say regarding it is that

31:44.600 --> 31:46.320
Trump is

31:47.600 --> 31:48.800
each time that he

31:48.800 --> 31:51.000
makes these threats and he backs down

31:51.000 --> 31:52.820
and I think he's making a bigger and bigger

31:52.820 --> 31:54.240
gambit each time

31:54.240 --> 31:56.060
you know what it's like playing poker

31:56.060 --> 31:57.640
and you keep upping your

31:57.640 --> 32:00.220
your bet and you're bluffing

32:00.220 --> 32:01.280
right and you keep

32:01.860 --> 32:03.880
putting more and more in you keep thinking

32:03.880 --> 32:06.240
alright if I could basically outspend

32:06.240 --> 32:07.660
him and just out threaten him

32:07.660 --> 32:10.280
he'll back down even though you got no cards

32:10.280 --> 32:11.980
and that's what Trump is doing

32:11.980 --> 32:14.180
and at some point when you're going all in

32:14.180 --> 32:15.300
you have nothing else left

32:15.300 --> 32:17.520
if they still call your bluff

32:17.980 --> 32:19.760
where do you go and I guess

32:19.760 --> 32:21.600
that's a very quick analogy

32:21.600 --> 32:23.720
to explain where I think we're at

32:23.720 --> 32:25.860
I think Trump is at that point

32:25.860 --> 32:27.740
maybe maybe saw some

32:27.740 --> 32:30.000
more runway because he hasn't dropped nukes yet

32:30.000 --> 32:31.480
but it wouldn't put it past

32:31.480 --> 32:33.260
someone who's that that age

32:33.260 --> 32:35.680
has you know he might think he has nothing to lose

32:35.680 --> 32:37.540
he believes his

32:37.540 --> 32:39.600
his reputation as a legacy which

32:39.600 --> 32:40.680
doesn't really doesn't matters

32:41.200 --> 32:43.860
is going to be to solve this problem

32:43.860 --> 32:45.720
one way or the other because if he doesn't

32:46.260 --> 32:47.460
then he is of course

32:47.460 --> 32:49.540
kicked out by the mid after the midterms

32:49.540 --> 32:51.500
in my opinion he's going to lose the Senate as well

32:51.500 --> 32:53.640
he will be impeached and thrown out of

32:53.640 --> 32:54.280
office both

32:55.420 --> 32:57.340
he's not going to have the own shriars

32:57.340 --> 32:59.560
or Frank Tambore's not that I matter

32:59.560 --> 33:01.640
or people to even support

33:01.640 --> 33:03.520
the guy to keep the Democrats from all

33:03.520 --> 33:05.440
just hoarding over him not that the Democrats

33:05.440 --> 33:07.600
are going to pull us out right away because they probably

33:07.600 --> 33:09.620
are getting paid by APAC just as much

33:09.620 --> 33:10.800
so I'm going to be clear about that

33:10.800 --> 33:13.420
but that's where I think he is

33:13.420 --> 33:14.740
he's in a desperate spot

33:15.400 --> 33:17.860
and with someone with his personality

33:18.320 --> 33:19.540
it's a real

33:19.540 --> 33:21.600
gambit for the rest of us so anyway

33:21.600 --> 33:23.540
what's your take on all of that and with

33:23.540 --> 33:25.480
the news go ahead thank you

33:30.300 --> 33:31.180
there's so

33:31.180 --> 33:33.580
so much stuff I'm just going to go over it

33:33.580 --> 33:35.660
and you know hog the microphone like

33:35.660 --> 33:37.720
Frank you know so I can get this out

33:40.260 --> 33:41.600
JFK was Catholic

33:41.600 --> 33:44.120
Catholic and that was like a big deal

33:44.860 --> 33:45.540
I remember

33:45.540 --> 33:47.540
even as a kid are the Kennedys

33:48.660 --> 33:49.380
beholden

33:49.380 --> 33:50.340
to the Pope

33:50.340 --> 33:51.760
or America

33:51.760 --> 33:54.820
same kind of thing like you're saying

33:55.240 --> 33:56.720
Catholics are not

33:56.720 --> 33:59.140
Zionist Catholics I mean they got

33:59.140 --> 34:01.180
their own hierarchy

34:01.180 --> 34:02.820
of whatever and the Vatican

34:02.820 --> 34:05.180
is one big worldwide corporation

34:05.180 --> 34:07.160
of anyway so this

34:07.160 --> 34:08.480
is I remember

34:08.480 --> 34:11.360
there was a movie what really got me

34:11.360 --> 34:13.300
interested to take a look at the structure

34:13.300 --> 34:16.000
it was with Anthony Quinn

34:16.000 --> 34:17.680
he was a very popular actor

34:17.680 --> 34:19.940
in the 60s 70s

34:19.940 --> 34:22.100
80s and Anthony Quinn

34:23.020 --> 34:24.400
in Lawrence of Arabia

34:24.400 --> 34:25.640
played one of the

34:25.640 --> 34:27.220
Arab tribal leaders

34:27.820 --> 34:29.820
doing battle with Ottoman Empire and the German

34:29.820 --> 34:31.820
and all that kind of stuff so Anthony Quinn

34:31.820 --> 34:33.980
popular actor played the part

34:33.980 --> 34:35.400
of the Pope

34:36.160 --> 34:37.360
and what happened

34:37.360 --> 34:39.500
was kind of what's going on now

34:39.500 --> 34:42.100
it was China and the U.S.

34:42.200 --> 34:43.620
Russia nuclear war

34:43.620 --> 34:44.820
and missiles were ready to go

34:44.820 --> 34:47.560
and everybody was like well we're

34:47.560 --> 34:49.420
an energy crisis and we're starving

34:49.420 --> 34:51.360
and the people need and kind of

34:51.360 --> 34:53.680
the Pope comes up

34:53.680 --> 34:55.340
Anthony Quinn character

34:55.340 --> 34:56.340
he goes and he says

34:57.340 --> 34:59.520
I'm going to tell you will not be rescinded

34:59.520 --> 35:00.980
it can't be undone

35:00.980 --> 35:03.020
I'm the freaking Pope and here it goes

35:03.980 --> 35:05.660
all of our resources

35:05.660 --> 35:07.760
are now made available

35:07.760 --> 35:09.520
to feeding the planet

35:09.520 --> 35:10.440
or something like that

35:10.440 --> 35:11.320
you know it was like

35:11.320 --> 35:13.280
we're going to do Christ's work

35:13.280 --> 35:14.480
we're not going to

35:16.180 --> 35:17.460
make the church

35:17.460 --> 35:18.680
the mission

35:18.680 --> 35:21.220
the people are the mission

35:21.220 --> 35:23.320
communists fast everybody

35:23.320 --> 35:25.900
you're getting fed by the Catholic church

35:26.740 --> 35:27.920
so that

35:27.920 --> 35:29.320
you know it was called

35:29.320 --> 35:31.020
I can't remember the name of the movie

35:31.020 --> 35:33.340
but it demonstrated

35:34.180 --> 35:35.440
you know what do you say

35:36.160 --> 35:37.040
you're here for

35:37.040 --> 35:38.560
what do you say you do

35:38.560 --> 35:39.820
what do you represent

35:41.300 --> 35:42.440
the internal

35:42.740 --> 35:44.520
strife and structure from that

35:44.920 --> 35:45.260
was

35:46.220 --> 35:49.040
man if you guys want to use this Bible

35:49.040 --> 35:50.720
thing you want to give

35:50.720 --> 35:52.780
the position that you have

35:52.780 --> 35:54.540
the higher moral ground

35:54.540 --> 35:56.200
that you're the moral authority

35:56.200 --> 35:57.720
you've got to act like it

35:58.640 --> 36:00.820
well this was to prevent

36:00.820 --> 36:02.860
a third world war

36:02.860 --> 36:04.920
nuclear ICBMs

36:04.920 --> 36:05.540
flying around

36:05.540 --> 36:07.540
do we have those people now

36:07.540 --> 36:09.920
or that sentiment or hell even a movie

36:09.920 --> 36:10.560
or something

36:10.560 --> 36:11.700
no

36:12.720 --> 36:14.980
the Vatican is a big giant business

36:14.980 --> 36:17.320
and a lot of it is

36:17.320 --> 36:19.300
science and technology

36:19.300 --> 36:21.760
what they know what they're not sharing

36:21.760 --> 36:23.080
what's in the archives

36:23.840 --> 36:25.040
what's uncovering the secrets

36:25.040 --> 36:26.140
exposing the lies

36:26.140 --> 36:28.660
well hell the Catholic church

36:28.660 --> 36:30.680
the Vatican would be one place you'd start

36:30.680 --> 36:32.360
so how

36:32.360 --> 36:34.640
control how much control do they

36:34.640 --> 36:35.740
have in politics

36:36.480 --> 36:38.440
well when you go Catholic social

36:38.440 --> 36:39.160
services

36:39.160 --> 36:42.300
and they are when you run for

36:42.300 --> 36:44.580
office in any state

36:44.580 --> 36:46.580
in the nation you'll have

36:46.580 --> 36:48.500
Catholic social services

36:48.500 --> 36:49.840
are embedded

36:50.680 --> 36:51.760
at the root

36:51.760 --> 36:54.020
of government spending

36:54.680 --> 36:56.360
they have you know

36:56.360 --> 36:58.640
because our reputation government can't do it

36:58.640 --> 37:00.000
they're doing it wrong and will do it

37:00.000 --> 37:02.160
so give us the money and we'll have a program

37:02.160 --> 37:03.920
for soup kitchen of whatever the hell

37:04.460 --> 37:06.440
now what has been heavily

37:06.440 --> 37:08.720
abused has been the Catholic

37:08.720 --> 37:10.740
church in illegal

37:10.740 --> 37:12.660
immigration where for

37:12.660 --> 37:14.300
you know our Catholic

37:14.300 --> 37:16.600
brethren and increase our numbers

37:16.600 --> 37:18.400
and get more tied and tax and

37:18.400 --> 37:20.140
Democrats and Catholic church

37:20.140 --> 37:21.740
and get a bunch more

37:21.740 --> 37:24.160
Central South Americans

37:24.160 --> 37:25.380
come here

37:25.380 --> 37:28.040
so it has been

37:28.040 --> 37:28.780
a

37:29.080 --> 37:29.700
you know

37:31.120 --> 37:33.340
scratching each other's back kind of thing

37:33.340 --> 37:35.060
for a long time

37:35.060 --> 37:37.160
the libertarian

37:37.160 --> 37:38.720
philosophy

37:39.360 --> 37:40.840
candidates, advocacy

37:41.180 --> 37:42.800
we go to the town halls

37:42.800 --> 37:45.680
the debates you know the endorsement

37:45.680 --> 37:47.280
meeting

37:47.280 --> 37:48.280
all those other crap

37:48.280 --> 37:50.580
and you go and of course

37:50.580 --> 37:53.000
unions anything that's a collective

37:53.000 --> 37:55.280
they always want to do collective

37:56.820 --> 37:57.460
advocacy

37:57.460 --> 37:58.460
it's not

37:58.920 --> 38:00.260
the right of an individual

38:00.260 --> 38:02.860
it's not my farm my kids

38:02.860 --> 38:04.800
my land my nope

38:04.800 --> 38:06.360
it's all in the mindset

38:06.800 --> 38:07.680
of the collective

38:07.680 --> 38:10.380
and the collective when you get a libertarian

38:10.380 --> 38:12.560
goes and talks to these people

38:12.560 --> 38:14.320
presents these people whatever

38:14.320 --> 38:16.560
and you bring up the proper rule

38:16.560 --> 38:18.560
of government the fence of individual rights

38:18.560 --> 38:20.240
all those other stuff takes care of itself

38:20.240 --> 38:21.100
well there

38:21.100 --> 38:21.620
nope

38:21.620 --> 38:24.600
so that is one thing

38:24.600 --> 38:27.300
that we're going to be talking about today

38:27.300 --> 38:28.480
is this

38:28.480 --> 38:31.000
advocacy for

38:31.000 --> 38:32.320
collective punishment

38:34.020 --> 38:35.180
collective

38:35.180 --> 38:37.080
identity politics

38:37.760 --> 38:39.900
the collective solution

38:39.900 --> 38:41.860
the worldwide whatever

38:41.860 --> 38:43.620
and that

38:43.820 --> 38:45.720
is what I see

38:45.840 --> 38:47.400
has always

38:47.400 --> 38:49.200
been the problem

38:49.200 --> 38:50.740
because they

38:51.840 --> 38:52.680
dwell

38:53.140 --> 38:54.540
in our mind

38:55.400 --> 38:57.660
as an identified group

38:57.660 --> 39:00.080
that you must be part of

39:00.080 --> 39:01.480
now that

39:01.480 --> 39:03.800
goes back to kind of the human

39:03.800 --> 39:05.360
species and how we are in social

39:05.360 --> 39:06.280
creatures anyway

39:06.280 --> 39:08.400
so they weaponize that

39:09.000 --> 39:10.220
so what do we

39:10.220 --> 39:12.680
what do we really think

39:12.680 --> 39:13.700
is the argument

39:14.460 --> 39:15.960
the argument is

39:15.960 --> 39:17.460
if you're going to

39:17.460 --> 39:18.760
give up

39:19.580 --> 39:20.860
your authority

39:21.640 --> 39:22.560
over yourself

39:22.560 --> 39:24.860
even if you believe you own

39:24.860 --> 39:26.860
your own life and your circumstances

39:26.860 --> 39:27.820
and your property

39:27.820 --> 39:31.240
and I'll a little lazy

39:31.240 --> 39:32.680
I'll let the government take care of you

39:32.680 --> 39:34.080
who build the roads kind of thing

39:34.920 --> 39:37.040
if you go with that attitude

39:38.300 --> 39:39.480
you're always

39:39.480 --> 39:40.300
advocating

39:40.300 --> 39:42.460
for delegating authority

39:42.460 --> 39:44.280
to someone that will do

39:44.280 --> 39:46.000
what you want

39:46.000 --> 39:48.080
whether it's right or wrong

39:48.080 --> 39:49.800
moral and moral

39:49.800 --> 39:52.540
beneficial to humanity

39:52.540 --> 39:54.120
or your country or not

39:54.120 --> 39:56.600
you're going to delegate authority to someone

39:56.600 --> 39:57.940
to do it the way you want

39:57.940 --> 40:00.200
when you do that

40:00.200 --> 40:02.120
where do they stop

40:02.120 --> 40:04.260
doing what they want

40:04.260 --> 40:07.220
how do you put

40:07.820 --> 40:09.200
chains on them

40:09.200 --> 40:10.380
to stop them from

40:11.200 --> 40:13.240
overreach and just the idea

40:13.240 --> 40:14.320
of delegating your authority

40:14.320 --> 40:15.900
hell that is the overreach

40:16.580 --> 40:19.260
so there's all the stuff that's going on

40:19.260 --> 40:19.920
like you mentioned

40:19.920 --> 40:21.220
Ben Shapiro

40:22.120 --> 40:23.740
always rub me the wrong way

40:23.740 --> 40:25.880
always advocating for

40:25.880 --> 40:28.120
and of course he's always

40:28.120 --> 40:29.760
there'll never be boots on the ground

40:29.760 --> 40:31.360
oh you don't fight or it's right

40:31.360 --> 40:32.380
oh that'll never happen

40:32.380 --> 40:33.700
oh no and then it does and then he

40:34.380 --> 40:36.060
justifies it and walks back

40:36.060 --> 40:37.500
what the hell was he was saying anyway

40:37.500 --> 40:39.500
and the fact that they would

40:40.040 --> 40:41.060
pick him

40:41.060 --> 40:42.620
there's nothing better

40:42.620 --> 40:45.460
there's somebody not more logic and reason

40:45.460 --> 40:47.620
that can weave a tailor

40:47.620 --> 40:48.960
to just be this

40:50.320 --> 40:50.840
stereotypical

40:50.840 --> 40:54.060
freaking call your names and yell at ya

40:54.060 --> 40:55.180
and you're doing it wrong

40:55.180 --> 40:57.200
and you know a smart guy obviously

40:57.200 --> 40:57.740
but

40:58.540 --> 40:59.200
not

40:59.590 --> 41:01.760
principled in the traditional American sense

41:01.760 --> 41:03.680
it's just you have to do

41:03.680 --> 41:05.040
what Israel says because Israel

41:05.610 --> 41:06.960
and I'm um

41:06.960 --> 41:08.760
if that's the best they got

41:09.670 --> 41:11.700
they're in trouble this is not going to last

41:11.700 --> 41:13.360
so when your observation

41:13.360 --> 41:15.180
of the left and right coming together

41:15.450 --> 41:17.420
I am seeing that because

41:17.420 --> 41:18.560
it is

41:18.560 --> 41:20.160
so obvious

41:20.160 --> 41:23.420
and so much of a

41:23.420 --> 41:25.520
large segment of their support

41:25.520 --> 41:27.480
just by numbers and population

41:28.380 --> 41:29.440
that people

41:29.440 --> 41:31.780
are starting to band together

41:31.780 --> 41:32.920
around

41:33.480 --> 41:35.360
things that they have in common

41:35.360 --> 41:37.560
because they're stopping

41:37.560 --> 41:39.080
the delegation

41:39.080 --> 41:41.140
of somebody else speaking for them

41:41.140 --> 41:42.960
and the most recent

41:43.520 --> 41:45.820
versions of that were what

41:45.820 --> 41:47.180
well of course

41:47.180 --> 41:48.640
you had the revolution

41:48.640 --> 41:51.480
you know the Ron Paul Libertarian kind of

41:51.480 --> 41:52.760
you know came to the foreign aid

41:52.760 --> 41:53.880
and they had to beat that down

41:53.880 --> 41:56.000
but how do you unlearn the truth

41:56.000 --> 41:57.700
that's a very difficult thing

41:57.700 --> 41:58.640
that's what they're up against

41:58.640 --> 42:00.400
and we'll talk about the project

42:00.400 --> 42:02.320
James Corbett and I launched last night

42:02.320 --> 42:03.860
so we'll get into that

42:03.860 --> 42:05.500
but then you have

42:05.500 --> 42:06.340
you know

42:07.620 --> 42:09.240
this group think

42:09.240 --> 42:10.740
of whatever

42:12.220 --> 42:14.560
red, blue, left,

42:15.020 --> 42:17.300
right, progressive, not

42:17.300 --> 42:18.140
conservative

42:18.140 --> 42:20.060
they, them, those versus

42:20.060 --> 42:21.480
you know we the people

42:21.480 --> 42:23.180
or just me or what you mean

42:23.180 --> 42:26.040
on and on and what is

42:26.040 --> 42:27.240
not discussed

42:27.980 --> 42:29.260
it's rare

42:30.020 --> 42:31.000
even Libertarian

42:31.000 --> 42:33.140
parties you know waste of time

42:33.140 --> 42:35.080
but Libertarian philosophy

42:35.080 --> 42:37.820
is probably the only place that you get this

42:37.820 --> 42:39.780
and volunteer it to anarchist or whatever

42:39.780 --> 42:41.080
is that

42:41.980 --> 42:43.260
why do you give

42:43.260 --> 42:44.700
this authority

42:46.160 --> 42:47.400
to someone else

42:47.400 --> 42:48.640
or a government or entity

42:48.640 --> 42:50.100
or a monopoly of force

42:50.700 --> 42:51.840
to begin with

42:52.540 --> 42:53.960
how is it that you're

42:54.700 --> 42:56.740
advocating how you want

42:56.740 --> 42:58.740
to be ruled but not if

42:58.740 --> 42:59.720
you should be ruled

43:00.420 --> 43:02.100
is there a benefit

43:02.700 --> 43:04.220
to not having

43:04.220 --> 43:06.480
a monopoly of force

43:06.480 --> 43:08.560
in the hands of shiny badges

43:08.560 --> 43:10.660
you know find hats and always

43:10.660 --> 43:11.500
available gun

43:11.500 --> 43:13.600
is that even a concept

43:13.600 --> 43:14.600
yes

43:15.280 --> 43:16.040
it was

43:16.040 --> 43:18.160
it was called the second amendment

43:19.160 --> 43:21.400
this was we put the power

43:21.400 --> 43:23.400
in the hands of the people

43:23.400 --> 43:25.420
now we're getting a lot

43:25.420 --> 43:27.340
of bills that are going around

43:27.340 --> 43:29.040
all the states always you know

43:29.040 --> 43:30.760
in the name of guns you know we gotta

43:30.760 --> 43:32.960
get rid of the guns and it's all about

43:32.960 --> 43:33.900
3D printing

43:36.780 --> 43:37.340
manufacturing

43:38.320 --> 43:39.520
on your desk

43:40.720 --> 43:42.360
creating whatever you need

43:42.360 --> 43:43.260
a part for your

43:43.260 --> 43:44.380
tractor

43:44.380 --> 43:47.480
a part for your broken door latch

43:47.480 --> 43:49.240
a part for your awning

43:49.240 --> 43:51.220
a little lever switch

43:51.220 --> 43:52.960
whatever that kept going out

43:52.960 --> 43:54.460
the handle on the back of my

43:54.460 --> 43:55.820
Montero door

43:55.820 --> 43:59.420
oh man I'm gonna 3D print

43:59.420 --> 44:00.480
through four of these man

44:00.480 --> 44:01.760
you can suck it

44:02.500 --> 44:05.100
so what has happened is they have legislation

44:05.100 --> 44:07.600
that every file

44:07.600 --> 44:10.160
that you go to your printer to do

44:10.160 --> 44:11.840
must be

44:11.840 --> 44:13.120
approved

44:15.080 --> 44:15.760
wow

44:15.760 --> 44:18.440
in the name of 3D printing guns

44:19.120 --> 44:20.280
but that's not

44:20.280 --> 44:21.760
where the lobby comes from

44:21.760 --> 44:23.180
that's not why

44:23.180 --> 44:25.280
it's all this right to repair stuff

44:25.280 --> 44:27.480
their business model counts on

44:27.480 --> 44:28.860
you having to take it

44:28.860 --> 44:31.580
to a

44:31.580 --> 44:32.880
warranty approved

44:33.560 --> 44:35.400
shop to do your

44:35.400 --> 44:37.060
bit and they just had

44:37.060 --> 44:38.660
this one young corporal

44:38.660 --> 44:40.800
they have these communication

44:42.100 --> 44:43.520
squads or platoons

44:43.520 --> 44:45.520
or whatever for the marines

44:45.520 --> 44:47.160
that are you know threatening to go

44:47.160 --> 44:48.940
grand here we go

44:48.940 --> 44:51.460
well there are many of

44:51.460 --> 44:53.120
they do not have the communication

44:53.120 --> 44:55.280
packs because the antenna

44:55.280 --> 44:56.980
is made of fiberglass

44:56.980 --> 44:58.960
and it's always breaking

44:58.960 --> 45:00.900
they wear out in the

45:00.900 --> 45:02.540
elements it's got

45:02.540 --> 45:04.540
$5,600

45:05.480 --> 45:06.840
to replace

45:06.840 --> 45:08.740
this 18 inch

45:08.740 --> 45:10.980
long half diameter antenna

45:10.980 --> 45:12.480
are you freaking kidding me

45:12.480 --> 45:14.200
and you gotta wait

45:14.200 --> 45:16.140
200 some days back order

45:16.140 --> 45:17.580
why

45:18.240 --> 45:20.360
because it's a $600 toilet seat

45:20.360 --> 45:21.720
$100 hammer that's why

45:22.300 --> 45:24.340
so what happened is now

45:24.340 --> 45:25.720
they're bringing in

45:26.220 --> 45:28.040
young men with skills and women

45:28.040 --> 45:29.840
they come in and say hey

45:29.840 --> 45:31.880
you know you take the cnc

45:31.880 --> 45:33.600
3d pretty native we put it

45:33.600 --> 45:34.760
in the shipping container part

45:34.760 --> 45:37.240
of the expedition force if it gets

45:37.240 --> 45:39.060
dropped off you buy a c-130

45:39.060 --> 45:40.780
on the tarmac of you

45:41.440 --> 45:42.660
fix our crap

45:43.200 --> 45:44.960
and he goes okay I can do that

45:46.000 --> 45:46.520
$10

45:48.480 --> 45:49.520
and he created

45:49.520 --> 45:51.120
a bunch of these replaced all these

45:51.120 --> 45:52.120
antennas and done

45:53.400 --> 45:54.980
they them those don't like that

45:55.600 --> 45:56.860
that's not how they make their money

45:56.860 --> 45:58.800
so they're going at

45:58.800 --> 46:00.100
the states

46:00.660 --> 46:03.140
to make this kind of manufacturing

46:03.140 --> 46:05.220
that you can do it yourself

46:06.520 --> 46:07.280
illegal

46:07.280 --> 46:09.700
in the name of guns of course

46:11.480 --> 46:12.960
we would live

46:12.960 --> 46:15.020
in such a world of

46:15.020 --> 46:15.580
abundance

46:16.600 --> 46:19.020
where you have artificial intelligence

46:19.920 --> 46:20.680
robots

46:21.700 --> 46:23.280
robots making robots

46:23.280 --> 46:25.460
robots 3d print

46:25.460 --> 46:26.360
whatever you want

46:27.940 --> 46:29.280
and what would be

46:30.100 --> 46:31.660
the economic benefit

46:31.660 --> 46:32.820
for people

46:33.680 --> 46:34.780
not corporations

46:35.460 --> 46:37.080
not collectives not governments

46:37.080 --> 46:39.620
not groups just individuals

46:39.620 --> 46:41.640
passing and sharing files

46:42.380 --> 46:43.940
I have a 1980

46:44.980 --> 46:46.060
MCI bus

46:46.060 --> 46:48.060
now fortunately there's a lot of

46:48.060 --> 46:49.380
stuff on the mark

46:49.380 --> 46:52.160
you know where to go it takes you about a year to find all the places to

46:52.160 --> 46:54.080
you know where you find this stuff

46:54.080 --> 46:55.880
but there was a couple little cosmetic

46:55.880 --> 46:57.400
things you just couldn't get

46:58.080 --> 46:59.360
my friend Bob Anderson

47:00.040 --> 47:02.160
you know he and I have exactly the same

47:02.160 --> 47:04.100
3d printer I got the same

47:04.100 --> 47:06.160
as him because I knew he was going to read manuals

47:06.160 --> 47:07.860
and get it all you know Pimpified

47:07.860 --> 47:09.700
or whatever you do I'll do to mine make it

47:09.700 --> 47:11.680
you know what or that's why I got the same model

47:12.420 --> 47:12.800
so

47:13.740 --> 47:14.980
he sends me the file

47:15.620 --> 47:18.160
and he just printed up a bunch of little plastic parts

47:18.160 --> 47:19.940
molding that goes in makes it look like

47:19.940 --> 47:21.280
yeah boom done

47:22.200 --> 47:24.000
I've experienced with this

47:24.000 --> 47:25.700
the drone part

47:25.700 --> 47:28.160
a little broken this a broken that

47:28.160 --> 47:30.000
they want to take

47:30.000 --> 47:30.880
that away

47:32.680 --> 47:34.040
where is the overlap

47:34.040 --> 47:35.600
between the left and the right on that

47:35.600 --> 47:37.880
they have to make it

47:37.880 --> 47:39.020
about guns

47:39.020 --> 47:41.020
to get the left

47:41.020 --> 47:42.880
to not be supportive

47:42.880 --> 47:45.440
of you manufacturing on your desk

47:45.440 --> 47:47.440
whatever you need to fix your wisdom bank

47:48.260 --> 47:49.360
on the right

47:49.360 --> 47:51.300
I don't know what they because of the right

47:51.300 --> 47:53.420
libertarian don't care man make whatever you want

47:53.420 --> 47:54.880
while you're not you know

47:54.880 --> 47:56.780
take responsibility for whatever you do

47:57.360 --> 47:59.320
so this is why

47:59.320 --> 48:01.120
you have these separations

48:01.120 --> 48:03.340
of ideologies it's

48:03.340 --> 48:04.840
divide and conquer

48:05.360 --> 48:07.300
but there's always something else going on

48:07.300 --> 48:08.920
we just have a

48:09.600 --> 48:10.480
a settlement

48:10.480 --> 48:13.620
for General Flynn Michael Flynn

48:13.620 --> 48:14.420
was

48:15.000 --> 48:17.160
DNI the Tulsi Gabbard position

48:17.160 --> 48:19.420
in the first Trump administration

48:19.420 --> 48:21.200
he gave general Flynn

48:21.200 --> 48:22.600
you'd be department

48:22.860 --> 48:24.720
of national intelligence

48:24.720 --> 48:27.160
of the boss the coordinator

48:27.160 --> 48:29.580
for all the other intelligence agencies

48:29.580 --> 48:30.800
NSA

48:30.800 --> 48:32.520
military intelligence

48:33.460 --> 48:34.300
FBI

48:35.160 --> 48:37.420
CIA NSA I mean you know

48:37.420 --> 48:39.460
Flynn we got to get rid of him

48:40.520 --> 48:41.800
Department of Justice

48:41.800 --> 48:42.740
FBI they finally

48:42.740 --> 48:44.120
made a settlement

48:44.920 --> 48:46.320
I gave they gave

48:46.320 --> 48:47.740
my paltry sum of

48:47.740 --> 48:49.460
you pay for your own legal

48:50.120 --> 48:51.560
money you raised

48:52.120 --> 48:54.060
here's one point something million dollars

48:54.060 --> 48:55.880
we gave you over a million dollars just

48:55.880 --> 48:57.780
you know it's done shut up

48:58.660 --> 48:59.960
so general Flynn

48:59.960 --> 49:02.240
even though he got a pardon by Trump

49:02.240 --> 49:03.920
had this civil case against the government

49:03.920 --> 49:06.080
they settled it for a paltry

49:06.080 --> 49:08.100
sum of not even a rounding

49:08.100 --> 49:10.120
error of a million something

49:10.120 --> 49:12.000
dollars just say you went

49:12.860 --> 49:14.400
well where's the true story

49:14.400 --> 49:16.200
by that we all known the true story

49:17.960 --> 49:19.980
is Tulsi a threat like general

49:19.980 --> 49:22.240
Flynn was doesn't seem like it

49:22.240 --> 49:24.500
I don't know what the hell is going on there

49:24.500 --> 49:26.280
then you have Candace

49:26.280 --> 49:27.900
Owens just

49:27.900 --> 49:29.060
hammering

49:30.000 --> 49:31.740
on Charlie Kirk assassination

49:32.800 --> 49:34.000
every little

49:34.000 --> 49:36.180
itty bitty tidbit of

49:36.180 --> 49:38.140
just beating the crap

49:38.140 --> 49:40.160
out of turning point USA

49:40.940 --> 49:42.140
Erica Kirk

49:42.140 --> 49:43.540
and Israel

49:44.360 --> 49:45.580
and Iran war

49:46.620 --> 49:48.120
so here you have

49:48.120 --> 49:50.320
under Tulsi you know one guy

49:50.320 --> 49:51.900
you know had some

49:51.900 --> 49:54.120
charge of whatever the heck

49:54.120 --> 49:56.040
investigations can't

49:56.040 --> 49:57.920
just goes and we're done

49:57.920 --> 49:59.840
not doing it anymore

50:00.920 --> 50:02.040
we're not playing

50:02.040 --> 50:04.460
so he leaves

50:04.460 --> 50:06.620
says what he's going to say

50:06.620 --> 50:08.900
and will we ever get

50:08.900 --> 50:10.460
a satisfactory

50:11.440 --> 50:12.740
understanding of what's

50:12.740 --> 50:13.640
really going on

50:14.920 --> 50:15.780
not yet

50:17.140 --> 50:18.180
Bongino leaves

50:18.820 --> 50:20.720
and you know understand he just like

50:20.720 --> 50:22.400
disappeared and he's getting heckled

50:22.400 --> 50:23.900
where he goes he's done

50:25.160 --> 50:26.660
Kashpatel I have no idea

50:26.660 --> 50:28.320
you got his you know

50:28.320 --> 50:30.500
new young girlfriend you're going to jail because

50:30.500 --> 50:32.680
you know had sex on

50:32.680 --> 50:34.180
your FBI jet or something

50:34.180 --> 50:36.040
whatever the hell they got over him

50:36.040 --> 50:38.020
whatever they got on Trump

50:38.020 --> 50:40.060
and his family and his future

50:40.060 --> 50:41.640
while he's making gazillions

50:41.640 --> 50:44.000
of dollars more on new stable

50:44.000 --> 50:45.740
coin offerings of his sons

50:45.740 --> 50:47.700
you know crypto endeavors of

50:47.700 --> 50:48.260
whatever

50:50.500 --> 50:51.640
then we have

50:51.640 --> 50:52.920
the actual war

50:54.320 --> 50:56.000
all the stuff that Trump does

50:56.000 --> 50:57.540
where he goes oh we're in

50:57.540 --> 50:59.840
the deal of a lifetime

50:59.840 --> 51:02.140
or we're not or we're going to bomb you

51:02.140 --> 51:03.200
or we're going to we're going to

51:03.200 --> 51:04.860
we're going to we're going to and

51:04.860 --> 51:06.320
you got to take him serious

51:07.100 --> 51:07.820
because he

51:08.940 --> 51:10.920
bomb the crap out of their

51:10.920 --> 51:12.820
nuclear facilities you know

51:12.820 --> 51:13.900
months ago

51:14.880 --> 51:16.900
well then he launched this war

51:16.900 --> 51:19.080
and if I'm not going to do

51:19.080 --> 51:21.200
boots on the ground so we put up

51:21.200 --> 51:23.280
a Babylon B story that says

51:23.280 --> 51:25.300
well you know it's a spoof on

51:25.300 --> 51:26.640
that he goes they go

51:27.180 --> 51:29.220
well they issued crocs

51:29.220 --> 51:31.580
for the Marines so that

51:31.580 --> 51:33.620
he wouldn't have boots

51:33.620 --> 51:34.260
on the ground

51:35.260 --> 51:36.800
you know really

51:36.800 --> 51:39.180
so this is what's coming

51:39.180 --> 51:41.660
and it's not going

51:41.660 --> 51:43.500
to deescalate this this threat

51:43.500 --> 51:45.220
and I don't believe that

51:45.220 --> 51:47.680
you know Trump really is a bluffer

51:47.680 --> 51:49.280
you know his taco thing

51:49.280 --> 51:50.520
you know that he

51:50.520 --> 51:52.900
does it and then doesn't do anything

51:52.900 --> 51:54.520
well who puts that up

51:54.520 --> 51:56.160
that's a media

51:56.160 --> 51:59.040
deep state of Israel thing

51:59.040 --> 52:01.040
so you say you're going to do it and you didn't do it

52:01.040 --> 52:02.700
well why did I say I was going to do it because I wanted

52:02.700 --> 52:04.820
this thing over here maybe he got it

52:04.820 --> 52:06.600
maybe he didn't get it maybe

52:06.600 --> 52:08.860
you know freaking new better

52:08.860 --> 52:10.240
maybe maybe side

52:10.980 --> 52:13.040
it's always you're not

52:13.040 --> 52:14.760
killing enough people

52:14.760 --> 52:16.820
you need to be killing more people

52:16.820 --> 52:18.900
yep well then you have

52:18.900 --> 52:20.680
Israel you know

52:20.680 --> 52:22.700
Iran is not a fly by night

52:22.700 --> 52:25.280
third world war of the day are a rich

52:26.700 --> 52:27.100
populace

52:27.100 --> 52:28.960
long-time culture

52:28.960 --> 52:30.800
long-time empire

52:30.800 --> 52:32.880
long-time Persian

52:32.880 --> 52:34.640
they happen to be muslim

52:34.640 --> 52:37.020
so one of the first languages

52:37.020 --> 52:38.720
we did philosophy of liberty we made sure

52:38.720 --> 52:40.700
we got it in Farsi so that

52:40.700 --> 52:42.880
you know we got a project we'll talk about later but

52:42.880 --> 52:44.300
this is

52:44.300 --> 52:46.300
what I'm seeing happening

52:46.890 --> 52:47.780
they want

52:47.780 --> 52:50.380
a war they need

52:50.870 --> 52:52.860
a war certainly Israel does

52:52.860 --> 52:54.580
and why the US is in this

52:54.580 --> 52:56.100
I have no freaking idea

52:57.260 --> 52:58.660
and I don't think people

52:58.660 --> 53:00.700
care people are just

53:00.700 --> 53:01.640
done with the whole thing

53:01.640 --> 53:04.040
we're done you guys go do it

53:04.040 --> 53:05.720
and I remember this feeling

53:06.940 --> 53:08.360
this was the feeling

53:08.360 --> 53:09.400
you got

53:10.840 --> 53:12.560
when the soviets

53:12.560 --> 53:13.820
invaded Afghanistan

53:14.280 --> 53:16.460
the late 70s early 80s

53:16.460 --> 53:18.060
the Carter Reagan

53:18.580 --> 53:20.440
race for presidency in

53:20.440 --> 53:22.360
80 you know this was all coming

53:22.360 --> 53:23.200
up and finally

53:23.200 --> 53:25.700
can we just hurry up and get through it

53:25.700 --> 53:27.320
I'm tired of hearing about it

53:27.320 --> 53:29.000
just launch man whatever

53:29.720 --> 53:31.700
you get for a moment and you start to realize

53:31.700 --> 53:32.780
what that really means

53:32.780 --> 53:35.820
this was the song queen made

53:35.820 --> 53:37.100
called hammerfall

53:37.920 --> 53:39.600
hammerfall we grew up

53:39.600 --> 53:41.980
in the shadow of the mushroom cloud

53:43.540 --> 53:44.100
that

53:44.100 --> 53:45.980
is what we're looking at now

53:45.980 --> 53:47.420
I see a mushroom cloud

53:47.420 --> 53:48.900
for any

53:48.900 --> 53:51.100
reason a mistake

53:52.360 --> 53:53.200
misjudgment

53:54.180 --> 53:55.020
stupidity

53:55.020 --> 53:56.120
whatever

53:56.900 --> 53:58.160
nuclear war

53:58.800 --> 53:59.800
comply no more

53:59.800 --> 54:01.980
you're not going to get any cooperation

54:02.720 --> 54:04.780
any money any participation

54:04.780 --> 54:07.260
anything out of me

54:07.260 --> 54:08.720
we're done

54:08.720 --> 54:10.640
what do you say you do here

54:10.640 --> 54:13.720
what is your role for society

54:13.720 --> 54:15.160
how much better do you make

54:15.160 --> 54:16.940
oh nuclear war

54:16.940 --> 54:18.700
yeah okay well you failed

54:18.700 --> 54:20.200
government failed

54:20.200 --> 54:22.040
all y'all sons of bitches failed

54:23.140 --> 54:24.740
so now we have

54:24.740 --> 54:27.360
Europe that is screaming

54:27.360 --> 54:29.320
Germany is coming out now

54:29.320 --> 54:30.300
their head of energy

54:30.300 --> 54:32.120
we have a story coming up later today

54:32.780 --> 54:34.960
she's like we missed our nuclear

54:34.960 --> 54:35.880
reactors now

54:35.880 --> 54:37.820
we should have never done that

54:37.820 --> 54:40.640
now France they're all nuclear

54:40.640 --> 54:42.660
they have you know standardized

54:42.660 --> 54:43.980
plants that they just

54:43.980 --> 54:46.000
you know put them off assembly lines

54:46.000 --> 54:47.020
you know that's you know

54:47.020 --> 54:49.440
no oil no coal no choice

54:49.900 --> 54:52.200
so they use nuclear reactors

54:53.500 --> 54:54.900
they're getting to the point

54:54.900 --> 54:56.320
that they're almost like

54:56.320 --> 54:58.280
small developments neighborhoods

54:58.280 --> 54:59.140
factories

55:00.060 --> 55:01.940
we could have had this years ago

55:02.540 --> 55:04.360
it was the same thing with Tesla

55:04.920 --> 55:05.960
Westinghouse comes out

55:05.960 --> 55:07.600
he goes where I put the meter on your

55:07.600 --> 55:09.400
from the atmosphere power thing

55:09.400 --> 55:11.040
well you don't

55:11.640 --> 55:13.200
well you're defunded

55:13.200 --> 55:14.840
what the hell I want to do with

55:14.840 --> 55:16.420
I can't charge you know

55:16.420 --> 55:19.060
for that same thing with nuclear

55:19.060 --> 55:20.720
it's so cheap hell man

55:20.720 --> 55:23.080
you pay a $30 feet of

55:23.080 --> 55:24.820
maintain the lines or whatever

55:24.820 --> 55:26.020
we're done they have

55:26.720 --> 55:27.280
so

55:28.740 --> 55:30.720
I get my own fusion reactor

55:30.720 --> 55:31.740
it's called the sun

55:33.480 --> 55:35.000
so we take care

55:35.000 --> 55:36.940
of business that way and that

55:36.940 --> 55:38.860
with technology is what

55:38.860 --> 55:40.340
I see happening right

55:40.860 --> 55:42.520
now and the driver

55:42.520 --> 55:44.100
for a lot of this stuff

55:44.690 --> 55:45.660
with technology

55:45.660 --> 55:47.300
with 3D printing

55:47.300 --> 55:48.800
with CNC

55:49.700 --> 55:52.420
cutting out machines of metal plastic

55:52.420 --> 55:54.580
kind of sewing robot of

55:54.580 --> 55:55.660
whatever the heck

55:55.660 --> 55:58.980
being able to source your own raw materials

55:58.980 --> 56:00.540
is even becoming a thing

56:00.540 --> 56:03.220
when you have the capability

56:03.220 --> 56:04.840
for small communities

56:04.840 --> 56:06.220
or in-dive visuals

56:06.220 --> 56:07.960
to make their own

56:07.960 --> 56:09.020
replacement parts

56:09.020 --> 56:12.320
have vehicles that are much less

56:12.320 --> 56:13.040
complicated

56:13.040 --> 56:15.600
now the reason we don't have

56:15.600 --> 56:18.300
VW Beetle bug cars anymore

56:18.300 --> 56:19.860
is they regulated

56:19.860 --> 56:22.580
and legislated them out of existence

56:22.580 --> 56:23.460
because

56:23.460 --> 56:25.960
they were so popular in competing

56:25.960 --> 56:27.980
with the big three here in America

56:27.980 --> 56:29.820
this is why

56:29.820 --> 56:31.740
when we went to Puerto Vallarta

56:31.740 --> 56:33.820
BYD electric

56:33.820 --> 56:35.860
Chinese cars were everywhere

56:35.860 --> 56:37.740
Uber drivers all had them

56:37.740 --> 56:39.520
loved them they were

56:39.520 --> 56:41.800
high quality they look great

56:41.800 --> 56:44.560
they were awesome but not in America

56:44.560 --> 56:46.320
you're so freaking not allowed

56:46.320 --> 56:47.760
you want to know why you don't have

56:47.760 --> 56:49.080
small pickup trucks anymore

56:49.820 --> 56:51.260
regulation in America

56:51.490 --> 56:53.380
you remember when the big giant SUV

56:53.380 --> 56:54.820
thing was all the craze

56:54.820 --> 56:56.840
they were being subsidized

56:56.840 --> 56:58.140
with government

56:58.140 --> 57:01.420
tax incentives here in Arizona

57:01.420 --> 57:03.600
they made a big debt long story

57:03.600 --> 57:04.860
bottom line

57:05.220 --> 57:07.420
you need a big hummer gas gullard

57:07.420 --> 57:07.820
or whatever

57:09.120 --> 57:10.220
because big three said

57:11.440 --> 57:12.900
all of this stuff

57:12.900 --> 57:15.760
is where you are starting to have an overlap

57:15.760 --> 57:16.860
between

57:17.300 --> 57:18.820
interests that they thought

57:18.820 --> 57:21.480
they were up against the other guys

57:21.480 --> 57:23.560
they thought they were up against

57:23.560 --> 57:25.180
the other people of a different

57:25.180 --> 57:27.660
ideology a different party

57:27.660 --> 57:29.100
a different way of thinking

57:29.100 --> 57:29.780
a different

57:29.780 --> 57:31.820
when you start to find out

57:31.820 --> 57:33.140
you're all

57:34.160 --> 57:35.600
in the cross hairs

57:35.600 --> 57:37.080
of they than those

57:37.080 --> 57:38.480
that won't leave us alone

57:38.480 --> 57:41.100
and when you stop

57:41.100 --> 57:43.460
following their script

57:43.460 --> 57:45.860
we just had Charles Goyette

57:45.860 --> 57:47.220
on Monday

57:47.220 --> 57:49.840
his book empire of lies

57:49.840 --> 57:52.200
now he and I worked together on radio

57:52.200 --> 57:54.360
I was his producer a couple of years

57:54.360 --> 57:56.940
we were a fellow talk show host

57:56.940 --> 57:58.720
on a couple of different networks

57:58.720 --> 57:59.580
and

57:59.580 --> 58:01.500
became good friends

58:01.500 --> 58:02.420
he's a great writer

58:02.420 --> 58:05.200
and reads everything

58:05.200 --> 58:08.180
he didn't talk to anybody without fully reading their book

58:08.940 --> 58:10.580
the empire of lies

58:10.580 --> 58:12.700
is all about the lies

58:12.700 --> 58:13.760
since for freaking ever

58:13.760 --> 58:17.040
that we had been lied into war

58:17.040 --> 58:18.200
every

58:18.720 --> 58:20.700
one of them we got lied

58:20.700 --> 58:21.980
into a war

58:21.980 --> 58:24.560
and he put that all in

58:24.560 --> 58:26.780
I mean you read this and you're like

58:26.780 --> 58:28.100
the same

58:28.100 --> 58:29.880
thing is happening again

58:30.440 --> 58:32.240
what script are they following

58:32.240 --> 58:34.340
who's really in charge

58:35.020 --> 58:36.040
are we

58:36.560 --> 58:38.640
and who's going to be held with the

58:38.640 --> 58:39.660
unpayable

58:40.260 --> 58:42.340
debt who's going to be enslaved

58:42.340 --> 58:44.220
by that debt

58:44.220 --> 58:45.980
what are they going to do

58:46.360 --> 58:48.300
to resurrect control

58:48.300 --> 58:50.240
over the money once

58:50.240 --> 58:52.660
the petro dollar collapses

58:52.660 --> 58:54.680
right now

58:54.680 --> 58:56.440
they are even

58:56.440 --> 58:57.920
Saudi Arabia

58:58.660 --> 58:59.660
they have

59:00.660 --> 59:02.000
stopped agreeing

59:02.580 --> 59:04.520
to only price oil

59:04.520 --> 59:06.120
in the petro dollar it's done

59:06.660 --> 59:08.620
so what are they pricing

59:08.620 --> 59:10.580
throughout the Middle East and now

59:10.580 --> 59:11.880
the one

59:12.820 --> 59:13.700
bricks

59:14.660 --> 59:16.240
here it comes

59:16.240 --> 59:18.480
and when all those dollars come

59:18.480 --> 59:19.720
flooding home

59:19.720 --> 59:21.900
you have not seen

59:21.900 --> 59:23.020
inflation

59:23.720 --> 59:24.880
like I've seen it

59:24.880 --> 59:26.680
when I was in high school and a kid

59:27.580 --> 59:28.500
I was paying

59:29.460 --> 59:31.020
29 to 30

59:31.700 --> 59:33.180
40 cents I remember it was like

59:33.440 --> 59:34.620
less than half a dollar

59:35.560 --> 59:36.760
50 cents

59:36.760 --> 59:39.080
oh my god it went to 75

59:39.960 --> 59:40.560
cents

59:40.560 --> 59:43.080
and my 65 chabelle super support

59:43.080 --> 59:44.600
which the speedometer

59:44.600 --> 59:47.700
went up as fast as the gas gauge went down

59:47.700 --> 59:48.880
and I'm going

59:49.680 --> 59:50.740
all of a sudden

59:51.360 --> 59:53.080
it's a dollar

59:53.700 --> 59:55.460
40 double tripled

59:55.460 --> 59:57.400
that's going to happen it's already happening

59:57.400 --> 59:58.420
right now

59:59.100 --> 01:00:01.780
we were down it was getting close to three dollars

01:00:02.820 --> 01:00:03.680
and you go

01:00:03.680 --> 01:00:05.400
sometimes with discounts at the

01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:07.700
club of I buy my groceries

01:00:07.700 --> 01:00:09.400
here kind of whatever the hell

01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:11.420
and getting almost in the twos

01:00:11.420 --> 01:00:13.180
in some places around the country I remember

01:00:13.490 --> 01:00:15.760
during COVID our bus in Oklahoma

01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:17.560
I paid a dollar 80 something

01:00:17.560 --> 01:00:19.000
a gallon for diesel

01:00:20.020 --> 01:00:21.200
but what's it now

01:00:21.860 --> 01:00:23.660
here in Arizona it was like six bucks

01:00:23.660 --> 01:00:25.020
well I'm going

01:00:25.700 --> 01:00:27.500
damn it's not even California

01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:29.780
so then you have governors

01:00:29.780 --> 01:00:31.800
like Georgia say you know we're going to

01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:33.980
lessen the tax burden we're going to lower it

01:00:33.980 --> 01:00:35.680
by not having you know the taxes

01:00:35.680 --> 01:00:37.880
on fueling we're going to go on

01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:39.040
California raises theirs

01:00:39.040 --> 01:00:41.700
so this is affecting

01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:42.960
everybody

01:00:43.820 --> 01:00:45.300
they are going to

01:00:45.300 --> 01:00:46.940
find out what this really

01:00:46.940 --> 01:00:49.140
is going to turn into what I keep

01:00:49.140 --> 01:00:50.960
saying and people can't understand it

01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:52.480
it's going to be

01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:53.980
a food thing

01:00:53.980 --> 01:00:57.020
what is the first thing that you're

01:00:57.020 --> 01:00:58.900
seeing ice age farmer

01:00:58.900 --> 01:01:00.660
was a very popular

01:01:00.660 --> 01:01:02.960
podcaster on YouTube they got

01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:04.620
canceled the platform whatever

01:01:04.620 --> 01:01:06.500
he's kind of making his way back in

01:01:06.500 --> 01:01:08.860
other places but he's

01:01:08.860 --> 01:01:11.040
like look man this is what they're

01:01:11.040 --> 01:01:12.960
doing to the food supply this is

01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:14.600
how well what's his most recent

01:01:14.600 --> 01:01:15.200
sharing

01:01:16.860 --> 01:01:18.740
he goes with the

01:01:18.740 --> 01:01:20.900
straights of hormones shut off

01:01:20.900 --> 01:01:23.020
and petroleum

01:01:23.020 --> 01:01:24.620
natural gas

01:01:24.620 --> 01:01:26.820
ammonia all kinds of different

01:01:26.820 --> 01:01:28.840
ways of fertilizer

01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:31.100
fertilizer is done

01:01:31.100 --> 01:01:33.200
there you know it's gone up

01:01:33.200 --> 01:01:34.860
they're not going to be able to

01:01:34.860 --> 01:01:36.520
plan or if they do the yields

01:01:37.040 --> 01:01:38.920
you're looking at a

01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:40.660
minimum of

01:01:40.660 --> 01:01:42.540
20% reduction

01:01:42.540 --> 01:01:44.600
in crop production

01:01:44.600 --> 01:01:46.300
it is going to go

01:01:46.300 --> 01:01:48.340
and it will be a food thing

01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:49.960
this is why

01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:52.100
month ago more

01:01:52.100 --> 01:01:54.120
we decided to build our root

01:01:54.120 --> 01:01:56.480
seller rather than working on

01:01:57.420 --> 01:01:58.820
the build project

01:01:58.820 --> 01:02:00.740
again put that on hold which we can

01:02:00.740 --> 01:02:02.160
because it's all masonry and steel

01:02:02.160 --> 01:02:03.860
where it doesn't matter to sit there

01:02:03.860 --> 01:02:06.200
so we're out there and every day

01:02:06.200 --> 01:02:07.720
because it's a big freaking hole

01:02:07.720 --> 01:02:10.240
I've been digging this hole

01:02:10.240 --> 01:02:12.240
putting it on the main house build

01:02:12.240 --> 01:02:14.320
pad out there I need it over there anyway

01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:16.180
and we have been just

01:02:16.180 --> 01:02:17.900
digging and digging and digging and

01:02:17.900 --> 01:02:19.600
digging and a sphere

01:02:20.060 --> 01:02:22.000
dome is going to go in there

01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.040
with this mesh covering and concrete

01:02:24.040 --> 01:02:26.160
and we'll do in fashion so we can

01:02:26.160 --> 01:02:27.520
have a root seller

01:02:28.200 --> 01:02:30.240
because you go down about 12 feet

01:02:30.240 --> 01:02:32.080
and it's you know 70 degrees

01:02:32.080 --> 01:02:34.500
and 120 degree weather up here

01:02:34.500 --> 01:02:36.420
we need that because there's

01:02:36.420 --> 01:02:38.240
nowhere for us to put our preserves

01:02:38.240 --> 01:02:40.380
and food and even put a freezer

01:02:40.380 --> 01:02:42.560
or a refrigerator or something

01:02:42.560 --> 01:02:44.100
to where it's not going to get

01:02:44.100 --> 01:02:46.620
baked and might as well not waste

01:02:46.620 --> 01:02:48.600
the time so that's why

01:02:48.600 --> 01:02:50.000
because I've been screaming

01:02:50.500 --> 01:02:52.800
it's going to be a food

01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:54.580
thing well here it

01:02:54.580 --> 01:02:56.520
comes so all

01:02:56.520 --> 01:02:57.600
of this stuff about

01:02:58.420 --> 01:03:00.260
focusing on turning point

01:03:00.260 --> 01:03:01.820
USA cool

01:03:01.820 --> 01:03:03.500
can't just go get some

01:03:03.500 --> 01:03:05.220
you know I'm fine with that

01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:07.480
what they're doing

01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:09.740
in response and going after

01:03:09.740 --> 01:03:11.360
people just elevate them

01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:13.520
is building on the conspiracy

01:03:13.520 --> 01:03:15.220
and everything that goes

01:03:15.220 --> 01:03:17.400
it's always for Israel or whatever

01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:19.320
Israel wants or we go to war

01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:21.420
because Israel is going to do it we got to beat them

01:03:21.420 --> 01:03:23.200
do it for some reason and

01:03:23.820 --> 01:03:25.380
funding they want another couple hundred

01:03:25.380 --> 01:03:27.500
billion dollars will they get it of course

01:03:27.500 --> 01:03:28.060
they will

01:03:29.380 --> 01:03:30.640
and then Ukraine

01:03:31.380 --> 01:03:32.980
so Trump is going to look man

01:03:32.980 --> 01:03:34.060
I can't fight

01:03:34.060 --> 01:03:35.960
you know in Ukraine and

01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:37.380
for Israel at the same time

01:03:37.380 --> 01:03:39.080
you're going to have to give up the Donbass

01:03:39.080 --> 01:03:41.820
what kind of deal is he working

01:03:41.820 --> 01:03:42.940
with the Russians

01:03:42.940 --> 01:03:44.560
and then what you didn't hear

01:03:44.560 --> 01:03:46.640
was that just a few days ago

01:03:47.300 --> 01:03:49.580
a couple days the Russians

01:03:49.580 --> 01:03:51.060
had the largest

01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:53.520
wave of drone strikes

01:03:54.260 --> 01:03:54.800
ever

01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:56.560
they had gazillion

01:03:56.560 --> 01:03:57.700
hundreds of thousands

01:03:57.700 --> 01:04:00.440
here they come and they hit everything

01:04:01.300 --> 01:04:01.940
so

01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:04.340
they go after Russia

01:04:05.100 --> 01:04:06.500
on the finish border

01:04:06.500 --> 01:04:09.480
they start going after the refinery plants

01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:10.820
the ports

01:04:10.820 --> 01:04:12.380
Iran has been

01:04:12.380 --> 01:04:13.780
beaten the living crap

01:04:13.780 --> 01:04:14.980
out of Israel

01:04:16.500 --> 01:04:17.460
you take a video

01:04:17.460 --> 01:04:19.800
you share it you have it on your phone

01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:21.720
we see you arrested

01:04:22.680 --> 01:04:23.400
finds

01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:24.560
imprisonment

01:04:24.560 --> 01:04:27.520
you are not allowed to show

01:04:27.520 --> 01:04:28.500
what's going on

01:04:28.500 --> 01:04:30.280
do we know

01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:31.900
no we don't

01:04:31.900 --> 01:04:33.560
we don't

01:04:33.560 --> 01:04:36.160
and whatever we do know

01:04:37.720 --> 01:04:39.120
we think we know

01:04:40.680 --> 01:04:41.760
you need

01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:42.760
to be there

01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.760
you need to have the 15 year old

01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:46.920
kid with his iPhone

01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:49.000
that's able to put it up somewhere

01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:49.200
where?

01:04:50.660 --> 01:04:52.820
when we first started doing IPFS

01:04:52.820 --> 01:04:54.780
the criteria that I gave

01:04:54.780 --> 01:04:56.540
I said I want to be able

01:04:56.540 --> 01:04:58.860
to post from a phone

01:04:58.860 --> 01:05:00.600
a video

01:05:00.600 --> 01:05:02.140
of what just happened

01:05:02.140 --> 01:05:03.880
the smoking rim of the car bomb

01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:05.760
and the city of whatever the hell

01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:08.180
and it put up and it can't be taken away

01:05:09.420 --> 01:05:10.520
Drew and Derek

01:05:10.520 --> 01:05:11.720
did it in a day

01:05:11.720 --> 01:05:13.120
and they showed me

01:05:13.120 --> 01:05:15.080
and we were in Maine

01:05:15.080 --> 01:05:16.700
and a good friend of ours

01:05:16.700 --> 01:05:17.980
Justin Olson

01:05:18.560 --> 01:05:20.120
young man was sitting there

01:05:20.120 --> 01:05:22.020
and I go all right

01:05:22.020 --> 01:05:23.940
we took a video of him

01:05:23.940 --> 01:05:25.800
we were sitting sort of a campfire

01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:26.960
we had a forager just throwing

01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:29.340
scrap aluminum in there

01:05:29.340 --> 01:05:29.960
might as well be

01:05:31.040 --> 01:05:32.940
mountain aluminum and putting them in little

01:05:34.240 --> 01:05:35.800
cupcake pans or something

01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:37.920
while we were sitting around drinking beer

01:05:38.460 --> 01:05:40.440
so we were sitting there doing that

01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:42.020
I took a short video

01:05:42.020 --> 01:05:43.100
or a picture of him

01:05:43.820 --> 01:05:44.880
posted it up

01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:46.580
couldn't be taken down

01:05:46.580 --> 01:05:49.140
I paid a thousand dollars

01:05:49.720 --> 01:05:51.420
for that as an NFT

01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:53.500
just a reward Drew and Derek

01:05:53.500 --> 01:05:55.780
for them creating this capability

01:05:55.780 --> 01:05:57.460
a thousand dollars

01:05:57.680 --> 01:05:59.280
for the first NFT

01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:00.680
of an IPFS

01:06:01.580 --> 01:06:02.820
media graphic

01:06:02.820 --> 01:06:05.460
I still have that

01:06:06.020 --> 01:06:07.380
this was

01:06:08.020 --> 01:06:08.880
got 20

01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:11.060
20 20 I think

01:06:11.060 --> 01:06:11.740
something like that

01:06:11.740 --> 01:06:13.200
or even before

01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:15.560
but the reason was

01:06:15.560 --> 01:06:18.300
because I knew that capability

01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:20.560
was going to be

01:06:20.560 --> 01:06:23.140
what brings down empires

01:06:23.140 --> 01:06:25.300
the empires of lies

01:06:25.300 --> 01:06:27.740
what happens when you uncover the secrets

01:06:27.740 --> 01:06:29.040
and expose the truth

01:06:29.040 --> 01:06:31.420
and they can't take it down

01:06:31.420 --> 01:06:33.100
they can't

01:06:33.100 --> 01:06:34.020
de-platform it

01:06:34.020 --> 01:06:35.440
they can't delete it

01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:37.700
and you get that 13-year-old kid

01:06:37.700 --> 01:06:38.460
in his iPhone

01:06:38.460 --> 01:06:40.560
that outs everything

01:06:40.560 --> 01:06:42.220
when the first Gulf War

01:06:42.220 --> 01:06:44.960
was going on there

01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:46.580
saying all that they're massing on the border

01:06:46.580 --> 01:06:47.540
and they're this and that

01:06:47.540 --> 01:06:49.480
they was some Miami journalist

01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:52.400
paid for a satellite take a picture

01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:53.860
there were no tanks

01:06:53.860 --> 01:06:55.980
you guys are all lying sacks of snot

01:06:55.980 --> 01:06:58.540
I got the satellite footage of it

01:06:58.540 --> 01:07:00.500
people forget about that they care

01:07:00.500 --> 01:07:02.160
they win it anyway

01:07:04.680 --> 01:07:07.080
so we have to go through this

01:07:07.080 --> 01:07:08.640
with the use

01:07:08.640 --> 01:07:10.200
of principle

01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:12.660
how do we identify

01:07:12.660 --> 01:07:14.820
when it is in

01:07:14.820 --> 01:07:15.980
our best interest

01:07:15.980 --> 01:07:18.180
to do or not do or protect

01:07:18.180 --> 01:07:20.340
America and her interest

01:07:20.340 --> 01:07:21.360
what the hell that means

01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:22.920
and her interest

01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:24.640
was the freedom

01:07:24.640 --> 01:07:26.100
of its people

01:07:26.100 --> 01:07:28.800
that live in this geographic area

01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:30.400
of America and we're Americans

01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:31.680
and you know

01:07:31.680 --> 01:07:33.720
truth justice in an American way

01:07:36.420 --> 01:07:38.120
that is their goal

01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:41.120
that is the well-defined

01:07:41.120 --> 01:07:43.080
documented promise

01:07:43.080 --> 01:07:45.100
they made to the people

01:07:45.100 --> 01:07:46.940
of the United States of America

01:07:46.940 --> 01:07:48.620
hands down

01:07:48.620 --> 01:07:50.920
the most rich

01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:53.000
the most productive

01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:54.880
the most

01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:56.300
property laden

01:07:56.300 --> 01:07:57.580
freaking we got it

01:07:58.380 --> 01:08:00.280
so that's what made us a target

01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:02.400
and they are strip mining

01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:03.940
the middle class

01:08:03.940 --> 01:08:06.000
in the name of whatever the hell

01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:08.340
and you're not allowed to fix your own stuff

01:08:08.340 --> 01:08:10.400
you're not allowed to sell

01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:11.140
your own stuff

01:08:11.140 --> 01:08:12.740
you're not allowed to

01:08:12.740 --> 01:08:16.320
do anything that they don't

01:08:16.320 --> 01:08:17.940
get a cut of because that

01:08:17.940 --> 01:08:18.460
taxes

01:08:20.340 --> 01:08:22.160
so this has to change

01:08:22.160 --> 01:08:23.820
it's going to change

01:08:23.820 --> 01:08:25.940
but a lot of it has been based

01:08:25.940 --> 01:08:27.500
on the lie

01:08:27.500 --> 01:08:29.800
that we owe

01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:31.460
other countries

01:08:31.460 --> 01:08:32.980
other treaties

01:08:32.980 --> 01:08:34.460
other organizations

01:08:35.250 --> 01:08:35.860
anything

01:08:35.860 --> 01:08:39.100
Israel, NATO

01:08:39.750 --> 01:08:40.360
Europe

01:08:40.360 --> 01:08:42.200
trading partners

01:08:42.200 --> 01:08:45.200
trans-pacific international treaty

01:08:45.200 --> 01:08:47.180
of favored nation

01:08:47.230 --> 01:08:49.360
you're allowed secret handshake crap

01:08:49.360 --> 01:08:51.060
Wef

01:08:51.060 --> 01:08:52.260
Davos

01:08:53.040 --> 01:08:53.380
Bilderberg

01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:56.000
it's so

01:08:56.700 --> 01:08:57.380
deluded

01:08:57.380 --> 01:09:00.520
what made America so great

01:09:01.320 --> 01:09:02.360
so fast

01:09:03.060 --> 01:09:05.100
and we are allowing it

01:09:05.100 --> 01:09:06.160
to happen

01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:08.700
I'm just going to do headlines real quick

01:09:08.700 --> 01:09:11.180
in this light and then we'll go over

01:09:11.180 --> 01:09:11.560
these

01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:14.640
when you're just saying

01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:16.340
decide how you want to put it in

01:09:16.340 --> 01:09:18.880
but I have some comments on what you were just talking about

01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:20.580
so we can do it now or after the headlines

01:09:22.460 --> 01:09:23.180
you have

01:09:23.180 --> 01:09:25.040
three minutes to comment

01:09:25.040 --> 01:09:26.940
don't turn it into a 20 minute thing

01:09:26.940 --> 01:09:28.300
because I got to get this news in

01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:29.800
and I'm going to get it in

01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:30.860
I got a mute button

01:09:30.860 --> 01:09:34.040
well do the news

01:09:34.040 --> 01:09:36.400
and then before Andrew giving it enough time

01:09:36.400 --> 01:09:38.060
in like 5-10 minutes

01:09:38.060 --> 01:09:39.460
I'm going to go over some of these things

01:09:39.460 --> 01:09:42.160
it won't be too long but I'm not going to be timed to 3 minutes

01:09:42.160 --> 01:09:43.780
but go ahead go to your news then

01:09:43.780 --> 01:09:45.240
but I'm going to come back to this topic then

01:09:45.240 --> 01:09:45.780
thanks

01:09:45.780 --> 01:09:48.680
troops being dragged into Iran

01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:51.500
how it will cripple the US

01:09:51.500 --> 01:09:53.400
and the real goal

01:09:53.400 --> 01:09:55.060
of Israel's violence

01:09:55.060 --> 01:09:57.220
this is a Tucker Carlson

01:09:57.220 --> 01:09:57.580
thing

01:09:58.420 --> 01:09:59.920
what does he represent

01:09:59.920 --> 01:10:02.280
I have no idea

01:10:02.280 --> 01:10:04.680
but it's contrary to what they're trying to do

01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:06.400
so they definitely

01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:08.120
want to shut him up

01:10:08.120 --> 01:10:10.640
and how would they be able to do that

01:10:11.060 --> 01:10:12.540
they haven't been able to

01:10:12.540 --> 01:10:13.300
do by

01:10:13.300 --> 01:10:14.900
I don't know making fun of him

01:10:14.900 --> 01:10:17.160
because Charles and I talked about this Monday

01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:18.900
when he was

01:10:20.380 --> 01:10:21.940
one of the most popular

01:10:22.440 --> 01:10:24.160
talk show hosts here in Arizona

01:10:24.160 --> 01:10:26.500
he was on a clear channel

01:10:26.500 --> 01:10:27.820
station KFYI

01:10:27.820 --> 01:10:30.720
he was between Rush Limbaugh

01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:32.280
and Sean Hannity

01:10:32.280 --> 01:10:34.060
that tells you how popular he was

01:10:35.660 --> 01:10:36.920
support the troops

01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:38.240
that was the mantra

01:10:38.240 --> 01:10:39.880
he goes no that means

01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:41.100
support the war

01:10:41.100 --> 01:10:42.160
and I'm not doing it

01:10:42.160 --> 01:10:45.920
he was one of the early

01:10:47.480 --> 01:10:48.060
dissenters

01:10:48.060 --> 01:10:49.200
for all this stuff

01:10:49.200 --> 01:10:50.420
had guests on that new

01:10:52.080 --> 01:10:53.240
military guys

01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:55.080
institute guys

01:10:55.080 --> 01:10:58.200
and when I produced for them

01:10:58.200 --> 01:10:59.720
we got to add a whole bunch of

01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:01.780
contacts and stuff that I had

01:11:01.780 --> 01:11:03.740
so they went after

01:11:03.740 --> 01:11:05.480
you could

01:11:05.480 --> 01:11:07.780
take them up to the cliff

01:11:07.780 --> 01:11:09.680
overlooking the valley and say this all

01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:11.700
could be yours only if I'm not doing

01:11:11.700 --> 01:11:13.440
that oh yeah

01:11:13.440 --> 01:11:15.680
well I experienced the same thing

01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:17.800
and then he and I together experienced the same thing

01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:19.280
the media

01:11:19.280 --> 01:11:21.140
is so controlled

01:11:21.140 --> 01:11:23.680
and they do it with money of course

01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:25.700
what advertising you get

01:11:25.700 --> 01:11:27.960
what stigma they apply to you

01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:30.260
what doesn't matter about the popularity

01:11:30.260 --> 01:11:31.580
doesn't matter

01:11:31.580 --> 01:11:33.680
what your ratings are doesn't matter

01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:35.200
it's what they want it to be

01:11:35.860 --> 01:11:37.220
so there's that

01:11:37.220 --> 01:11:39.220
China aims to be the new

01:11:39.220 --> 01:11:40.880
global king of nuclear power

01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:42.820
and no one's paying attention

01:11:44.160 --> 01:11:44.720
now

01:11:45.460 --> 01:11:47.060
Australians and Germans

01:11:47.060 --> 01:11:49.020
they're seeing they screwed up

01:11:49.940 --> 01:11:50.500
they're

01:11:51.160 --> 01:11:52.800
going into the toilet with their power

01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:55.020
and it's going to take a while

01:11:55.020 --> 01:11:56.640
if not a long time

01:11:57.100 --> 01:11:57.940
to recoup

01:11:58.940 --> 01:12:00.460
the electrons that they can make

01:12:01.200 --> 01:12:02.320
but what are people doing

01:12:02.320 --> 01:12:03.800
they've lost faith in their governments

01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:05.440
and utilities and collectives

01:12:05.440 --> 01:12:07.620
so they start buying their own solar panels

01:12:07.620 --> 01:12:08.900
where do you think they're getting them from

01:12:08.900 --> 01:12:09.620
China

01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:12.700
what does that do to silver it goes up

01:12:12.700 --> 01:12:15.160
I mean you know silver and gold are taking a hit

01:12:15.160 --> 01:12:16.620
you know is that intentional

01:12:16.620 --> 01:12:18.000
doesn't matter

01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:19.260
in the end

01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:21.100
you just sit on it

01:12:21.100 --> 01:12:22.140
because here it comes

01:12:22.140 --> 01:12:22.860
just saying

01:12:25.260 --> 01:12:27.460
total collapse of private credit

01:12:27.460 --> 01:12:29.600
this is something that nobody

01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.020
is paying attention to that we've been covering

01:12:32.020 --> 01:12:32.940
because

01:12:33.240 --> 01:12:35.520
people don't understand how big this is

01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:37.140
you have

01:12:37.140 --> 01:12:39.720
all the big banks and what they're doing

01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:40.500
and then you have

01:12:40.500 --> 01:12:43.860
less regulated private credit markets

01:12:43.860 --> 01:12:45.060
big hedge funds

01:12:45.060 --> 01:12:46.900
big family wealth

01:12:46.900 --> 01:12:49.560
they have their own investments

01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:50.420
in real estate

01:12:50.420 --> 01:12:53.980
we don't mind if you stop paying

01:12:53.980 --> 01:12:54.940
then it becomes ours

01:12:54.940 --> 01:12:56.140
and we own a bunch of real estate

01:12:56.140 --> 01:12:58.320
but it's getting so bad

01:12:59.280 --> 01:13:00.920
that it may be the trigger

01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:03.210
that starts the economic collapse

01:13:03.480 --> 01:13:04.500
and that of the dollar

01:13:04.500 --> 01:13:06.480
here in America and we have been

01:13:06.480 --> 01:13:09.000
covering this you go total collapse

01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:09.880
of private credit

01:13:10.730 --> 01:13:12.240
pension funds are cooked

01:13:12.870 --> 01:13:13.980
the reason is

01:13:13.980 --> 01:13:15.360
is that for return

01:13:15.360 --> 01:13:18.000
all these pension funds 401ks

01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:19.360
whatever the heck they're doing

01:13:19.360 --> 01:13:22.020
they make these private credit things

01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:23.800
AAA because

01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:26.020
they say they are so that they can invest

01:13:26.020 --> 01:13:27.800
in them and they dump a bunch of money in

01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:29.300
collect the commissions and somebody

01:13:29.300 --> 01:13:31.360
makes it on the front end of

01:13:32.140 --> 01:13:34.360
Patrick Byrne called it a pig's breakfast

01:13:34.360 --> 01:13:35.020
it's just

01:13:35.020 --> 01:13:37.760
they just glean a bunch of transaction fees

01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:39.160
and commissions and crap

01:13:39.160 --> 01:13:41.220
and the more back and forth thing do the better

01:13:41.220 --> 01:13:43.560
it just bleeds the entire investment

01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:45.380
well this is what's going on now

01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:48.020
and it is in commercial real estate

01:13:48.020 --> 01:13:49.440
in 07

01:13:49.440 --> 01:13:51.220
when I thought the commercial

01:13:51.220 --> 01:13:53.320
real estate was going to go

01:13:53.320 --> 01:13:55.140
as much as the housing market

01:13:55.140 --> 01:13:56.460
in fact

01:13:56.460 --> 01:13:57.920
I counted on it

01:13:57.920 --> 01:13:59.360
did some investing

01:13:59.360 --> 01:14:01.980
did a little bit of education

01:14:01.980 --> 01:14:04.220
got my real estate license

01:14:04.220 --> 01:14:06.980
during a six week period between radio stations

01:14:06.980 --> 01:14:08.760
just to fill my time and get

01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:10.500
participate in what I thought

01:14:10.500 --> 01:14:12.520
was going to be a liquidation

01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:14.100
of commercial real estate

01:14:14.100 --> 01:14:15.980
it didn't happen

01:14:15.980 --> 01:14:18.280
because what they did with the tarp

01:14:18.280 --> 01:14:20.080
they took all their toxic waste

01:14:20.080 --> 01:14:21.840
all of their crap

01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:23.320
gave them dollar for dollar on it

01:14:23.320 --> 01:14:24.720
and just had it sitting on the books

01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:27.000
well now it's back in the hands

01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:28.760
and bought it pennies on the dollar or whatever

01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:31.920
to all of these financial institutions

01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:33.520
and it's going

01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:35.940
after you have work at home

01:14:35.940 --> 01:14:37.160
COVID happened

01:14:37.980 --> 01:14:39.780
lockdowns you have technologies

01:14:39.780 --> 01:14:41.840
and here we go

01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:44.400
and who's invested in that a lot

01:14:44.400 --> 01:14:45.180
your retirement

01:14:46.240 --> 01:14:47.260
you're going to notice

01:14:47.260 --> 01:14:48.920
this is why I've been saying

01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:50.820
past few months this year

01:14:50.820 --> 01:14:53.480
26 and before the end of 25

01:14:53.480 --> 01:14:55.620
my family, friends on this show

01:14:56.400 --> 01:14:56.780
get

01:14:57.540 --> 01:14:58.260
out

01:14:58.260 --> 01:14:59.880
of paper

01:14:59.880 --> 01:15:02.640
if it says it on a statement

01:15:02.640 --> 01:15:04.920
on something you get online from

01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:07.120
it's clinking and clanking

01:15:07.120 --> 01:15:08.840
and you're a holdy touchy feely

01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:09.680
land

01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:11.700
productive businesses

01:15:11.700 --> 01:15:14.180
of precious metals

01:15:14.180 --> 01:15:15.380
of wheat

01:15:15.380 --> 01:15:16.360
copper

01:15:17.440 --> 01:15:18.100
something

01:15:18.100 --> 01:15:20.700
a building

01:15:22.200 --> 01:15:24.040
a piece of equipment that makes you money

01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:26.280
if you're just in paper

01:15:26.280 --> 01:15:28.200
and it says that you don't got it

01:15:28.200 --> 01:15:29.380
and you're going to see it

01:15:29.380 --> 01:15:31.360
go away

01:15:31.360 --> 01:15:32.920
now there's technology

01:15:33.430 --> 01:15:34.100
things here

01:15:34.980 --> 01:15:37.640
big chip breakthroughs

01:15:37.640 --> 01:15:39.420
are challenging how much

01:15:39.420 --> 01:15:41.340
cost is for chips

01:15:41.340 --> 01:15:42.900
for AI

01:15:43.460 --> 01:15:44.080
for then

01:15:44.080 --> 01:15:47.420
SpaceX and next AI they're going to space

01:15:47.420 --> 01:15:49.160
with data centers

01:15:49.160 --> 01:15:51.880
that have a polar orbit

01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:53.360
so it's always facing the sun

01:15:53.360 --> 01:15:54.960
all the power they need

01:15:55.640 --> 01:15:57.060
we'll see how that goes

01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.080
there's one story we put up for this reason

01:16:00.080 --> 01:16:01.700
this carbon fiber

01:16:01.700 --> 01:16:03.640
motor will change

01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:04.980
transport

01:16:04.980 --> 01:16:06.000
forever

01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:08.960
when I heard about

01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:10.440
this new motor from YASA

01:16:10.440 --> 01:16:12.360
that delivers 1000

01:16:12.820 --> 01:16:13.500
brake horsepower

01:16:14.540 --> 01:16:16.540
in just 12.7

01:16:17.380 --> 01:16:18.960
kilograms 28 pounds

01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:20.980
I had to learn more about it

01:16:20.980 --> 01:16:23.020
there is so much genius

01:16:23.020 --> 01:16:24.840
engineering that goes into this motor

01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:26.960
that I hope I have done it justice

01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:31.320
these are hub motors

01:16:31.320 --> 01:16:33.200
that you can just take off

01:16:33.200 --> 01:16:34.640
your rotor and braking system

01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:36.920
just put it on, bolt your tire

01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:38.600
to it, run it to the battery

01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:39.980
in your trunk and you're done

01:16:39.980 --> 01:16:42.660
in fact I kept

01:16:42.660 --> 01:16:44.500
one of my favorite Monteros

01:16:45.040 --> 01:16:46.080
to do this

01:16:46.080 --> 01:16:48.440
I've been waiting for hub motors to come in

01:16:49.080 --> 01:16:50.100
it's going to be a

01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:52.740
accelerator to a raspberry pi

01:16:52.740 --> 01:16:54.760
some cheap lithium iron phosphate

01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:55.940
or new batteries

01:16:55.940 --> 01:16:58.020
and these hub motors and we're done

01:16:58.780 --> 01:17:00.320
and all I got to do is make sure

01:17:00.320 --> 01:17:01.260
the connection is there

01:17:01.260 --> 01:17:02.380
and you know

01:17:03.140 --> 01:17:04.720
put the fuses in it

01:17:04.720 --> 01:17:06.000
here we go

01:17:07.320 --> 01:17:09.260
but those can't have that

01:17:09.900 --> 01:17:12.240
there is a new battery called Donut

01:17:12.240 --> 01:17:14.080
that they just mass

01:17:14.700 --> 01:17:15.260
production

01:17:15.260 --> 01:17:17.640
they went into production on the motorcycle first

01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:19.820
they are already in the wild

01:17:19.820 --> 01:17:21.800
Bob Anderson goes can I buy it

01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:23.080
doesn't exist I can't buy it

01:17:23.080 --> 01:17:25.540
can't buy it on the shelf I can go get it

01:17:25.540 --> 01:17:26.860
then it's real

01:17:26.860 --> 01:17:28.160
if it's not, it's not real

01:17:28.160 --> 01:17:28.920
well this is real

01:17:30.460 --> 01:17:31.460
they have

01:17:31.460 --> 01:17:34.160
5 minute charging, 80%

01:17:34.160 --> 01:17:34.900
kind of thing

01:17:34.900 --> 01:17:37.580
they have all of the great density

01:17:37.580 --> 01:17:39.680
you can start using it for aircraft

01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:42.040
and it's called Donut

01:17:42.040 --> 01:17:43.500
just go look it up

01:17:43.500 --> 01:17:45.080
and the chemistry

01:17:45.080 --> 01:17:47.100
they're being all proprietary secret

01:17:47.100 --> 01:17:49.560
but the performance is coming out

01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:51.440
this is when I have Eric Peters

01:17:51.440 --> 01:17:53.620
you'll see a lot of his stuff on the internet

01:17:53.620 --> 01:17:54.760
he's a big

01:17:55.580 --> 01:17:56.320
ice engine

01:17:56.320 --> 01:17:57.580
internal combustion

01:17:57.580 --> 01:18:01.200
he's got to go vroom vroom

01:18:01.200 --> 01:18:02.260
I hate electric

01:18:02.260 --> 01:18:04.280
they're bad because of this

01:18:04.280 --> 01:18:07.020
short range, charging anxiety

01:18:07.020 --> 01:18:08.220
how long does it take to charge

01:18:08.220 --> 01:18:09.640
how well before

01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:12.400
what happens when they fix that

01:18:12.400 --> 01:18:14.000
what happens when that's double

01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:16.260
what happens when that is twice as fast

01:18:16.260 --> 01:18:19.180
I need vroom vroom

01:18:19.180 --> 01:18:20.940
well BMW puts speakers on

01:18:20.940 --> 01:18:21.860
it makes it go vroom vroom

01:18:21.860 --> 01:18:25.440
they just got their own bias

01:18:27.460 --> 01:18:29.460
but what happens when we open it up

01:18:30.140 --> 01:18:31.540
that anybody can make them

01:18:31.540 --> 01:18:32.760
you can buy them from anywhere

01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:34.820
and you have these capabilities

01:18:36.060 --> 01:18:36.860
it's coming

01:18:37.420 --> 01:18:38.260
it's right now

01:18:38.260 --> 01:18:39.760
that's why we cover tech

01:18:39.760 --> 01:18:41.780
you go on the left side of phoenix

01:18:41.780 --> 01:18:43.000
you'll see in the left bar

01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:43.820
you scroll down and it says

01:18:43.820 --> 01:18:46.720
top tech news

01:18:47.480 --> 01:18:48.600
and that's where it goes

01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:50.140
so I'm going

01:18:50.140 --> 01:18:50.640
alright

01:18:51.740 --> 01:18:53.780
we are one event

01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:56.080
away from silver going

01:18:56.340 --> 01:18:57.460
absolutely parabolic

01:18:58.640 --> 01:18:59.800
Peter Schiff

01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:00.820
talking about silver

01:19:00.820 --> 01:19:04.260
now later we'll get into

01:19:05.040 --> 01:19:07.200
what we launched last night

01:19:07.200 --> 01:19:08.700
the philosophy of liberty project

01:19:08.700 --> 01:19:10.100
we've been working on for months

01:19:11.020 --> 01:19:12.200
Corbin and I

01:19:12.200 --> 01:19:13.700
have been looking for

01:19:14.400 --> 01:19:16.320
something we can put our efforts toward

01:19:16.320 --> 01:19:17.440
a worldwide

01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:18.960
solution

01:19:19.400 --> 01:19:21.020
I'm so sick of arguing

01:19:21.020 --> 01:19:24.080
you know he had just done stories on

01:19:24.080 --> 01:19:25.380
Iran of course we've been covering it

01:19:25.380 --> 01:19:26.340
I don't want to talk about that

01:19:27.200 --> 01:19:28.680
we're going to talk about our solution

01:19:29.440 --> 01:19:31.000
and that's what he wanted to do too

01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:32.400
we were prepped for it

01:19:32.400 --> 01:19:34.460
we finally turned it on live

01:19:36.080 --> 01:19:36.880
Libertas.Earth

01:19:37.620 --> 01:19:39.560
Libertas is the Latin root word for liberty

01:19:40.860 --> 01:19:41.260
liberty

01:19:43.160 --> 01:19:44.180
on the whole planet

01:19:44.180 --> 01:19:45.280
I vote that

01:19:45.280 --> 01:19:47.000
if I got a vote I vote that

01:19:48.380 --> 01:19:49.500
Libertas.Earth

01:19:50.180 --> 01:19:51.100
and you'll see

01:19:51.100 --> 01:19:54.560
we have 54 languages

01:19:55.420 --> 01:19:55.980
translated

01:19:55.980 --> 01:19:57.620
in an 8 minute video

01:19:57.620 --> 01:19:58.940
of what this is all about

01:19:59.940 --> 01:20:00.680
self ownership

01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:03.160
of all the things that I've been talking about

01:20:04.240 --> 01:20:05.660
this is what's happening

01:20:06.180 --> 01:20:06.960
right now

01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:10.320
now we have things like interesting like

01:20:10.320 --> 01:20:12.080
claims are circulating

01:20:12.080 --> 01:20:14.040
online that Larry Silverstein

01:20:14.040 --> 01:20:16.040
has opened a terrorism insurance policy

01:20:16.040 --> 01:20:18.420
on a big building he has in Los Angeles

01:20:18.420 --> 01:20:19.960
US bank

01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:21.540
tower well he's the guy

01:20:21.930 --> 01:20:24.000
that got paid a bunch of money

01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:25.660
for the World Trade Center

01:20:25.660 --> 01:20:27.180
yeah I went and got it

01:20:27.180 --> 01:20:28.960
oh I'll give you my money

01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:30.380
yeah

01:20:30.380 --> 01:20:33.020
so he's doing the same thing in LA was he

01:20:33.020 --> 01:20:33.240
no

01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:36.880
fishermen have stopped fishing

01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:38.900
because they can't afford

01:20:38.900 --> 01:20:39.940
diesel

01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:43.180
same thing is going here domestically

01:20:43.180 --> 01:20:44.080
fertilizer

01:20:44.620 --> 01:20:45.520
fuel cost

01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:48.280
equipment cost I can't keep it running

01:20:48.280 --> 01:20:50.660
I gotta wait for John Deere to come out and push a button

01:20:50.660 --> 01:20:52.620
on a computer screen for my

01:20:52.620 --> 01:20:54.220
$13 widget to work

01:20:54.780 --> 01:20:56.000
on my big giant

01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:57.740
$300,000 combine

01:20:57.740 --> 01:20:59.100
this is

01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:02.700
we're going through a major shift

01:21:02.700 --> 01:21:04.780
and I don't think people realize it

01:21:04.780 --> 01:21:06.280
and what will trigger it

01:21:06.280 --> 01:21:08.200
it's going to be a food thing

01:21:08.200 --> 01:21:09.000
yeah

01:21:10.600 --> 01:21:11.480
alright so

01:21:11.480 --> 01:21:13.640
got a bunch of

01:21:14.200 --> 01:21:16.300
odds and ends here before I get back to

01:21:16.300 --> 01:21:17.680
what you were saying earlier

01:21:18.160 --> 01:21:20.200
a couple odds and ends first off

01:21:20.200 --> 01:21:21.580
we have you mentioned

01:21:21.580 --> 01:21:23.440
SpaceX I'm not sure

01:21:23.440 --> 01:21:25.660
this is not an investment advice or anything but

01:21:26.100 --> 01:21:28.660
I understand of course SpaceX is about to go public

01:21:28.660 --> 01:21:30.300
they're filing for

01:21:30.300 --> 01:21:32.280
you're not allowed to do it all the rich

01:21:32.280 --> 01:21:34.000
people get to do it first you gotta wait

01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:35.760
right exactly

01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:38.320
so apparently there's the pre-IPOs

01:21:38.320 --> 01:21:39.460
going on right now

01:21:39.460 --> 01:21:41.940
when you look into it the normies

01:21:41.940 --> 01:21:44.100
regular slaves have to

01:21:44.100 --> 01:21:45.860
wait until the summer whenever

01:21:45.860 --> 01:21:47.840
the IPO apparently will come out

01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:49.780
now when everybody else made all the money

01:21:49.780 --> 01:21:52.020
Juan was already talking about and saying oh

01:21:52.020 --> 01:21:53.960
if you get in now you're looking at a

01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:55.380
$500X increase

01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:57.780
and of course he's talking probably to his own

01:21:57.780 --> 01:21:59.060
private the

01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:01.880
super investors who are allowed to get in now

01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:03.940
with that said and again this is not

01:22:03.940 --> 01:22:06.080
investment advice but we started researching

01:22:06.080 --> 01:22:07.760
into it there are about

01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:09.940
three companies two of them are funds I

01:22:09.940 --> 01:22:11.580
believe that have advanced

01:22:11.580 --> 01:22:14.740
SpaceX offering or positions already

01:22:14.740 --> 01:22:15.940
not much like

01:22:15.940 --> 01:22:17.740
3% 5% but

01:22:17.740 --> 01:22:20.000
that apparently is the only way that normies

01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:20.800
can get in

01:22:21.620 --> 01:22:23.780
so I think one of them called

01:22:23.780 --> 01:22:25.440
Echo Star and that's

01:22:25.440 --> 01:22:27.420
a company that works on

01:22:27.420 --> 01:22:30.040
on worldwide communication networks

01:22:30.040 --> 01:22:32.000
and they also are trying

01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:33.860
to become I guess they're like a third party vendor

01:22:33.860 --> 01:22:35.640
to Starlink

01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:37.820
so they already have Starlink in their

01:22:37.820 --> 01:22:40.020
in their grouping and they're merging with

01:22:40.020 --> 01:22:41.900
them not merging but you know their technologies

01:22:41.900 --> 01:22:44.000
are they're not a competitor to Starlink

01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:45.600
let's say and then you have SpaceX

01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:47.860
holdings on top of that it's just an

01:22:47.860 --> 01:22:49.600
interesting company or at least other

01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:51.580
companies out there that have exposure

01:22:51.580 --> 01:22:53.440
just throwing it out there I'm not telling

01:22:53.440 --> 01:22:55.500
to invest in them but that was the only way

01:22:55.500 --> 01:22:57.540
that normies can do so also

01:22:57.540 --> 01:22:59.220
this is just something random

01:23:00.080 --> 01:23:01.440
this is just random

01:23:01.440 --> 01:23:03.680
and they're looking

01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:05.140
at $500 a share

01:23:05.800 --> 01:23:07.900
right now for the pre-IPO

01:23:07.900 --> 01:23:09.560
who the heck knows what it's going to be when it comes

01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:11.480
out and it's going to be an

01:23:11.480 --> 01:23:13.460
interesting day in business assuming

01:23:13.460 --> 01:23:15.640
the economy doesn't collapse first because

01:23:15.640 --> 01:23:17.620
I can almost see everyone puts all their money

01:23:17.620 --> 01:23:19.440
into SpaceX like when Google

01:23:19.440 --> 01:23:21.660
first had an IPO and it went stupid

01:23:21.660 --> 01:23:22.920
in the amount and then

01:23:23.460 --> 01:23:25.140
of course if the tech sector

01:23:25.140 --> 01:23:27.180
the stock market crashes that'll be a fun day

01:23:27.820 --> 01:23:29.140
also and I don't want to

01:23:29.140 --> 01:23:30.720
get into the whole thing crypto and all of that

01:23:31.280 --> 01:23:33.140
and Ari knows this person very well

01:23:33.140 --> 01:23:35.120
Joby Weeks I never really

01:23:35.120 --> 01:23:37.020
got to meet the gentleman I've heard a lot

01:23:37.020 --> 01:23:38.520
about him through you and through others

01:23:38.940 --> 01:23:41.140
through Freedom Phoenix but he of course

01:23:41.140 --> 01:23:42.920
he's under house arrest and that's a whole other

01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:45.280
I'm saying this quick for those of you know who Joby

01:23:45.280 --> 01:23:47.240
is I don't want to get into it but Joby Weeks

01:23:47.240 --> 01:23:48.960
did a fantastic interview first

01:23:48.960 --> 01:23:51.080
real full interview I've seen outside

01:23:51.080 --> 01:23:53.140
of like the freedom community on redacted

01:23:53.140 --> 01:23:55.540
you know that podcast redacted many of you

01:23:55.540 --> 01:23:57.160
watched maybe you already

01:23:57.160 --> 01:23:59.220
posted it I don't know but it was a full hour

01:23:59.740 --> 01:24:01.220
interview it was fantastic

01:24:01.220 --> 01:24:03.480
and I just interviewed him

01:24:03.480 --> 01:24:05.240
few weeks ago did you

01:24:05.900 --> 01:24:07.080
he's a real character

01:24:07.080 --> 01:24:09.180
he's just he's got a great energy about

01:24:09.180 --> 01:24:11.060
him he's a special person I'll just

01:24:11.060 --> 01:24:13.020
leave it there so you know I would encourage

01:24:13.020 --> 01:24:14.740
you to check out the interview with Ernie

01:24:14.740 --> 01:24:16.860
and redacted if you want to see what he looks like

01:24:16.860 --> 01:24:17.640
and all of that so

01:24:19.140 --> 01:24:21.320
and then going back to some of the comments

01:24:21.320 --> 01:24:23.420
you're saying about

01:24:23.420 --> 01:24:25.160
about the wars and such

01:24:25.160 --> 01:24:27.120
I want to start with the kind of like a

01:24:27.120 --> 01:24:28.660
10,000 foot it's like

01:24:28.660 --> 01:24:31.260
a little overdone phrase but have you

01:24:31.260 --> 01:24:33.200
heard of Ernie I think you have Thucydides

01:24:33.200 --> 01:24:34.680
trapped you know but what that is

01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:37.280
yeah it's when

01:24:37.280 --> 01:24:39.000
empires collide

01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.400
of something yeah so basically

01:24:41.400 --> 01:24:43.520
it's a term that kind of got coined

01:24:44.360 --> 01:24:45.480
about 2011

01:24:45.480 --> 01:24:47.240
from there's an

01:24:47.240 --> 01:24:48.840
Athenian historian

01:24:49.900 --> 01:24:51.640
just a military historian

01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:53.180
named Graham T. Allison

01:24:53.180 --> 01:24:55.180
and he wrote a book on this

01:24:55.180 --> 01:24:56.800
and it comes

01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:59.220
from Thucydides

01:24:59.220 --> 01:25:00.500
who's from Athens

01:25:00.500 --> 01:25:01.820
Greece and he had mentioned

01:25:01.820 --> 01:25:04.360
an observation that he was in this book called

01:25:04.360 --> 01:25:06.020
the history of the Peloponnesian War

01:25:06.020 --> 01:25:08.340
it was that the rise of Athens

01:25:08.340 --> 01:25:10.240
and the fear that this instilled in

01:25:10.240 --> 01:25:12.100
Sparta that made the war

01:25:12.100 --> 01:25:14.680
inevitable so that line

01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:16.360
that phrase from Thucydides

01:25:16.360 --> 01:25:17.340
had Allison

01:25:18.180 --> 01:25:20.400
write about this more and essentially

01:25:20.400 --> 01:25:21.860
what it means is that when

01:25:21.860 --> 01:25:23.740
there's an emerging power

01:25:23.740 --> 01:25:26.200
it threatens the power that's already

01:25:26.200 --> 01:25:28.020
established and then therefore

01:25:28.020 --> 01:25:29.480
war is inevitable

01:25:29.480 --> 01:25:31.480
and so I guess what I was

01:25:31.480 --> 01:25:33.640
with how it self-tales a little bit with this

01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:35.860
is that we get into the weeds and God knows

01:25:35.860 --> 01:25:37.580
Ernie hates it especially when I get into the weeds

01:25:38.060 --> 01:25:40.120
about like you know whether it's the

01:25:40.120 --> 01:25:42.020
voting issue or it's about this person

01:25:42.020 --> 01:25:44.140
here and of course Ernie tries to summarize

01:25:44.140 --> 01:25:46.180
it as ouch quit it and he certainly has a point

01:25:46.180 --> 01:25:48.340
I think it's important to understand the weeds

01:25:48.340 --> 01:25:49.620
to see where you're at

01:25:49.620 --> 01:25:51.640
at the ground level

01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:53.640
like boots on the ground level

01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:56.260
but at the same time it's important to check your six

01:25:56.260 --> 01:25:58.240
as we say and to see maybe

01:25:58.240 --> 01:26:00.300
at the end of the day this is just human nature

01:26:00.300 --> 01:26:02.160
it's like putting you know like I

01:26:02.160 --> 01:26:03.880
talk about a bunch of apes together

01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:05.540
and you're gonna have a certain number of alphas

01:26:05.540 --> 01:26:07.980
and the rest become betas it's just

01:26:07.980 --> 01:26:09.840
nature and with

01:26:10.460 --> 01:26:11.860
Thucydides trap it's just

01:26:11.860 --> 01:26:14.080
it's going to happen heck all you have to do

01:26:14.080 --> 01:26:16.000
is check out a prison you know

01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:17.900
a new guy gets thrown into prison he looks pretty

01:26:17.900 --> 01:26:19.700
tough you know it's automatically

01:26:19.700 --> 01:26:21.580
the guy the head

01:26:21.580 --> 01:26:23.580
inmate is gonna beat the hell out of him

01:26:23.580 --> 01:26:25.580
just to teach him a lesson and say I'm in charge

01:26:25.580 --> 01:26:27.640
or maybe not and the new

01:26:27.640 --> 01:26:30.140
the new young buck takes over

01:26:30.140 --> 01:26:31.920
and that's really what it comes down to

01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:33.980
so we could get into all the weeds about why

01:26:33.980 --> 01:26:36.020
and the nuclear program and Israel

01:26:36.020 --> 01:26:37.880
this and we can go all day on that which we will

01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:39.940
soon when Andrew gets

01:26:39.940 --> 01:26:41.780
here but at the end of the day

01:26:41.780 --> 01:26:44.360
maybe it's just inevitable there's a number of examples

01:26:44.360 --> 01:26:45.980
he has I won't read all of them but

01:26:45.980 --> 01:26:47.860
you have like example

01:26:47.860 --> 01:26:50.040
one the ruling power in the late 15th

01:26:50.040 --> 01:26:51.900
century was Portugal rising power

01:26:51.900 --> 01:26:53.540
with Spain you know you have

01:26:53.540 --> 01:26:56.080
France in the first half of 16th century

01:26:56.080 --> 01:26:58.100
rising power with Spain at the time

01:26:58.900 --> 01:26:59.700
you have

01:26:59.700 --> 01:27:01.680
France was the dominant

01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:03.780
power and then Great Britain took on France

01:27:03.780 --> 01:27:05.740
United Kingdom was then in the lead

01:27:05.740 --> 01:27:07.880
France took it back and then you have China

01:27:07.880 --> 01:27:09.620
and Russia where Japan was

01:27:09.620 --> 01:27:11.860
rising power and they were at war for a while

01:27:11.860 --> 01:27:13.840
United Kingdom versus the United

01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:15.520
States in the early 20th century

01:27:15.520 --> 01:27:17.700
it just keeps going on and on so anyway

01:27:17.700 --> 01:27:19.420
that's kind of where we are now so maybe

01:27:19.420 --> 01:27:21.640
in a sense all of the details don't matter

01:27:21.640 --> 01:27:23.520
because that's where we're at also

01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:24.680
regarding the military

01:27:25.360 --> 01:27:26.860
the US military I was

01:27:27.740 --> 01:27:29.640
watching a fascinating interview with

01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:31.160
some military historians

01:27:31.160 --> 01:27:33.920
and they're saying that another trap

01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:35.320
that America has now

01:27:35.320 --> 01:27:37.160
is with our military

01:27:37.160 --> 01:27:38.720
and how unprepared we are

01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:40.920
and how the whole world is starting to see this

01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:43.000
which adds to Trump showing

01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:44.320
his hands and his cards

01:27:44.320 --> 01:27:46.660
he's flashing his cards as they say

01:27:46.660 --> 01:27:48.960
and I don't think he understands it or knows it

01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:49.880
I mean you might say

01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:52.340
Trump's the plan

01:27:52.340 --> 01:27:55.200
but there was a part that they mentioned

01:27:55.200 --> 01:27:56.240
I think maybe

01:27:57.960 --> 01:27:58.600
it's gonna

01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:00.900
maybe take its toll and what do I mean

01:28:00.900 --> 01:28:03.440
they were saying that when you're in a war

01:28:03.440 --> 01:28:05.280
in the very beginning of a war

01:28:05.280 --> 01:28:06.800
both sides usually

01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:08.460
get hammered with casualties

01:28:08.460 --> 01:28:10.860
and the reason is because

01:28:10.860 --> 01:28:13.180
you don't know what the other attack

01:28:13.180 --> 01:28:14.240
vector is

01:28:14.240 --> 01:28:16.780
it's kind of like if you have a fight with somebody

01:28:16.780 --> 01:28:18.660
out in the schoolyard or at a bar

01:28:18.660 --> 01:28:20.400
you have no idea really

01:28:20.400 --> 01:28:22.260
how much training the other guy has

01:28:22.260 --> 01:28:23.820
even someone who doesn't look that big

01:28:23.820 --> 01:28:25.460
might actually have more talents

01:28:25.460 --> 01:28:27.900
when you first start fighting or competing

01:28:27.900 --> 01:28:30.420
you have to get into a feel

01:28:30.420 --> 01:28:31.940
of very quickly

01:28:31.940 --> 01:28:33.260
otherwise you're gonna be done

01:28:33.260 --> 01:28:35.180
the strategies that they're using

01:28:35.180 --> 01:28:36.740
and you have to outflank them quicker

01:28:36.740 --> 01:28:38.920
and it's kind of like in chess or poker

01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:41.400
whoever can outflank the other guy quicker

01:28:41.400 --> 01:28:42.260
has the advantage

01:28:43.080 --> 01:28:45.380
and so you're gonna get all the casualties

01:28:45.380 --> 01:28:47.660
because you don't understand what their tech is

01:28:48.380 --> 01:28:49.900
and then very quickly

01:28:49.900 --> 01:28:51.920
you have to tweak and change

01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:53.720
to reduce your casualties

01:28:53.720 --> 01:28:55.620
and you find whatever you need to do

01:28:55.620 --> 01:28:56.780
it's like in World War I

01:28:56.780 --> 01:28:59.120
when all of a sudden you're hit with machine guns

01:28:59.120 --> 01:29:00.280
and mustard gas

01:29:00.280 --> 01:29:02.820
I mean they've never seen anything like that before

01:29:02.820 --> 01:29:04.840
and so warfare just changed

01:29:04.840 --> 01:29:07.080
on a fly and eventually

01:29:07.080 --> 01:29:08.780
you start to see like a sine wave

01:29:08.780 --> 01:29:11.040
you see the spike in death and mortality

01:29:11.040 --> 01:29:12.600
when you first confront an enemy

01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:15.080
and then hopefully it starts to go down

01:29:15.080 --> 01:29:16.900
as you learn the other person's

01:29:16.900 --> 01:29:19.120
weaknesses or talents or how things

01:29:19.120 --> 01:29:21.040
work keeping that in mind

01:29:21.040 --> 01:29:22.960
America has always

01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:24.820
had a strength of

01:29:24.820 --> 01:29:26.000
full-on warfare

01:29:26.620 --> 01:29:28.180
tanks and bombers

01:29:28.820 --> 01:29:30.500
full-on ground war

01:29:30.500 --> 01:29:31.460
here comes America

01:29:31.460 --> 01:29:34.200
with the American military

01:29:34.200 --> 01:29:37.180
at least since World War I

01:29:37.180 --> 01:29:39.200
has been tooled

01:29:39.200 --> 01:29:39.800
to handle

01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:41.720
but it changed

01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:42.860
this is an interesting point

01:29:42.860 --> 01:29:46.160
this is what these generals were talking about

01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:47.580
so this is not me

01:29:47.580 --> 01:29:49.740
I'm just regurgitating what they were talking about

01:29:49.740 --> 01:29:51.860
but that since

01:29:51.860 --> 01:29:52.960
the war on terror

01:29:52.960 --> 01:29:54.280
since 9-11

01:29:54.900 --> 01:29:56.980
and you could argue even a little bit before that

01:29:56.980 --> 01:29:59.140
is that the entire military

01:29:59.140 --> 01:30:01.940
has been retooled for insurgency battles

01:30:01.940 --> 01:30:03.500
being in Iraq

01:30:03.500 --> 01:30:05.720
and Afghanistan and what have you

01:30:05.720 --> 01:30:07.340
all of the money it's all been

01:30:07.340 --> 01:30:09.660
and the talent and the techniques

01:30:09.660 --> 01:30:11.600
and the generals and the people

01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:13.960
at the top who remember full-on warfare

01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:16.140
they've retired or passed on

01:30:16.140 --> 01:30:17.940
and so now the people in charge

01:30:17.940 --> 01:30:19.520
are veterans of

01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:21.040
the 9-11 years

01:30:21.040 --> 01:30:23.280
and so it's all about going

01:30:23.280 --> 01:30:25.420
house to house and having some kid

01:30:25.420 --> 01:30:27.680
with a sweatpants

01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:29.600
shooting them a little

01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:31.400
missile at you a little arm missile

01:30:31.400 --> 01:30:33.420
and then running away I mean that's pretty much

01:30:33.420 --> 01:30:35.460
what they've dealt with you know having the

01:30:35.460 --> 01:30:37.120
hummers and not getting blown up with mines

01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:39.440
that's where their talents are

01:30:40.160 --> 01:30:41.300
Russia and China

01:30:41.300 --> 01:30:42.720
have not been doing this they've been

01:30:43.500 --> 01:30:45.260
constantly focused on full-on

01:30:45.260 --> 01:30:47.200
battles and now

01:30:47.200 --> 01:30:49.540
we get to the sine wave and the Ukraine

01:30:49.540 --> 01:30:51.280
war because America is

01:30:51.280 --> 01:30:53.040
not really we're not on the ground

01:30:53.040 --> 01:30:54.740
there right because boots on the ground

01:30:54.740 --> 01:30:56.940
being a political issue for Biden at the time

01:30:56.940 --> 01:30:59.300
or for anybody and Trump will figure this one

01:30:59.300 --> 01:31:00.720
out but Russia

01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:02.860
has been doing a full-on war

01:31:02.860 --> 01:31:04.340
against Ukraine

01:31:05.140 --> 01:31:07.340
and you know Ukraine's been getting pummeled

01:31:07.340 --> 01:31:08.980
but Russia is now learning

01:31:08.980 --> 01:31:10.940
about what the tech is because

01:31:10.940 --> 01:31:13.120
we're giving it to them so they're

01:31:13.120 --> 01:31:15.020
seeing so they now

01:31:15.020 --> 01:31:17.060
have had years practicing

01:31:17.060 --> 01:31:18.980
against American tech and finding

01:31:18.980 --> 01:31:21.260
out its weaknesses and one of the biggest weaknesses

01:31:21.260 --> 01:31:22.740
America has because we're not

01:31:22.740 --> 01:31:25.160
directly fighting Russia

01:31:25.160 --> 01:31:27.100
is the drone technology

01:31:27.100 --> 01:31:28.840
apparently Russia has one of the

01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:30.540
best drone techs in the world

01:31:30.540 --> 01:31:32.820
and America is way behind

01:31:32.820 --> 01:31:34.460
with drone tech forgetting the fact that

01:31:34.460 --> 01:31:35.660
we don't have a lot of the

01:31:37.100 --> 01:31:39.120
exotic metals the rare earth metals

01:31:39.120 --> 01:31:40.940
to keep making them right that's

01:31:40.940 --> 01:31:43.200
all another story so it's a fascinating

01:31:43.200 --> 01:31:45.120
point about the weakness that

01:31:45.120 --> 01:31:46.980
if we're going to turn around now and start

01:31:46.980 --> 01:31:48.680
and we're going to threaten the world about taking

01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:51.160
Greenland and a boots on the

01:31:51.160 --> 01:31:52.920
ground in Iran where you know Russia

01:31:52.920 --> 01:31:55.000
can get involved in such we've already

01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:56.900
or not we're not only so depleted from

01:31:56.900 --> 01:31:59.060
all these other excursions not to mention

01:31:59.060 --> 01:32:00.840
the economy about the bus like you right

01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:03.080
we're bringing up it's all about to go

01:32:03.080 --> 01:32:05.020
but you know Trump thinks that our

01:32:05.020 --> 01:32:06.940
military is the military from the

01:32:06.940 --> 01:32:09.120
World War II movies with John

01:32:09.120 --> 01:32:10.760
Wayne you know starring in them

01:32:10.760 --> 01:32:12.700
those days apparently our military

01:32:12.700 --> 01:32:14.380
is no we're close to that on

01:32:14.380 --> 01:32:16.480
on top of the fact that our troops

01:32:16.480 --> 01:32:18.300
only want to be there you know back in

01:32:18.300 --> 01:32:19.860
World War II many of you know there was

01:32:19.860 --> 01:32:21.240
I'm sure we all have a grandfather

01:32:21.240 --> 01:32:23.660
somebody who lied about their age

01:32:23.660 --> 01:32:25.900
to get into the war imagine that today

01:32:25.900 --> 01:32:28.480
I mean it's like completely opposite

01:32:28.480 --> 01:32:29.980
of the culture behind

01:32:29.980 --> 01:32:32.120
I'm sorry the enthusiasm

01:32:32.120 --> 01:32:34.220
for war behind it but

01:32:34.220 --> 01:32:36.620
so I wanted to bring that up it was a very fascinating

01:32:36.620 --> 01:32:38.860
point to watch and then

01:32:38.860 --> 01:32:40.900
the last couple of things as you're

01:32:40.900 --> 01:32:43.100
seeing that the it's like

01:32:43.100 --> 01:32:45.020
like the Thucydides trap

01:32:45.020 --> 01:32:47.100
is that that's maybe

01:32:47.100 --> 01:32:49.160
at the end of the day why we have to go

01:32:49.160 --> 01:32:51.100
through this is that our country

01:32:51.100 --> 01:32:52.800
and we've talked about this in the show before

01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:54.900
it's just it has to fail I don't

01:32:54.900 --> 01:32:56.620
want it to but it needs to be

01:32:56.620 --> 01:32:59.000
put down a couple rungs as

01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:00.940
this new world this new order

01:33:00.940 --> 01:33:03.040
changes where America is not

01:33:03.040 --> 01:33:05.100
the hegemony of the world you know

01:33:05.100 --> 01:33:06.740
you've heard my speech before about liberal

01:33:06.740 --> 01:33:08.780
democracy versus fascism versus

01:33:11.020 --> 01:33:12.780
communism and that you've heard

01:33:12.780 --> 01:33:14.700
that you know for years I've talked about that

01:33:14.700 --> 01:33:16.680
where fascism was the first to go

01:33:16.680 --> 01:33:18.740
from the third right and then came

01:33:18.740 --> 01:33:20.520
communism and then the the wall

01:33:20.520 --> 01:33:22.540
fell there and the only thing left was liberal

01:33:22.540 --> 01:33:24.560
democracy which we thought was a good

01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:26.340
thing but our power liberal

01:33:26.340 --> 01:33:28.540
democracy was unchecked and that turned

01:33:28.540 --> 01:33:30.080
into you know world

01:33:30.080 --> 01:33:32.340
associations and you know the UN having too much

01:33:32.340 --> 01:33:34.440
power and the hegemony of the world

01:33:34.440 --> 01:33:36.480
and trying to take over everyone's

01:33:36.480 --> 01:33:38.600
financial systems and so the rest

01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:40.140
of the world is saying enough of this

01:33:40.140 --> 01:33:42.380
America needs to go back in their place as

01:33:42.380 --> 01:33:44.740
just a participating power and

01:33:44.740 --> 01:33:46.340
the rest of the world is trying to figure

01:33:46.340 --> 01:33:47.960
things out with bricks and the like

01:33:47.960 --> 01:33:50.280
and we're seeing this the effect here at

01:33:50.280 --> 01:33:51.880
home you mentioned the TSA

01:33:52.260 --> 01:33:54.040
well you look at the TSA I mean

01:33:54.040 --> 01:33:55.860
you know you've got these long lines you have

01:33:55.860 --> 01:33:58.160
domestic non tranquility

01:33:58.160 --> 01:34:00.300
if that's such a term and that

01:34:00.300 --> 01:34:02.160
and that you see the war we're about to

01:34:02.160 --> 01:34:04.240
put boots on the ground in open World War

01:34:04.240 --> 01:34:06.200
3 to keep our

01:34:06.200 --> 01:34:08.060
power or to keep Israel

01:34:08.060 --> 01:34:10.160
in their place which Andrew

01:34:10.160 --> 01:34:12.280
any moment he'll be talking about that with

01:34:12.280 --> 01:34:14.260
us he just came in all right great thanks

01:34:14.260 --> 01:34:16.040
and hi Andrew we'll be with you in a second

01:34:16.040 --> 01:34:18.180
so so you know you won't

01:34:18.180 --> 01:34:20.080
you're seeing you're seeing all of

01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:22.340
anyone 47 minutes

01:34:22.340 --> 01:34:24.340
straight so I'm being I was such a nice

01:34:24.340 --> 01:34:26.320
guy but anyway so you have all you

01:34:26.320 --> 01:34:26.940
have this

01:34:28.400 --> 01:34:30.860
this this this this hegemony

01:34:30.860 --> 01:34:32.980
that America the powers that be

01:34:32.980 --> 01:34:34.720
the deep state the military industrial

01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:36.940
complex blah blah blah and of course

01:34:36.940 --> 01:34:39.080
Israel has their whole art to this

01:34:39.080 --> 01:34:40.800
and it's like you know Israel

01:34:40.800 --> 01:34:42.500
knows that America is about to go down

01:34:42.500 --> 01:34:45.040
that their hegemony is over and that's

01:34:45.040 --> 01:34:47.000
also I think it's adding to the

01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:48.880
to the to the trap

01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:50.980
that we just

01:34:50.980 --> 01:34:52.920
talked about they know America is about to

01:34:52.920 --> 01:34:54.820
get to go down with with rising

01:34:54.820 --> 01:34:56.740
powers competing and they

01:34:56.740 --> 01:34:59.160
have hit their wagon to America for so long

01:34:59.160 --> 01:35:01.280
they want to suck out whatever they can

01:35:01.280 --> 01:35:02.900
to get whatever advantages they can

01:35:02.900 --> 01:35:05.060
at our expense and you know from Israel

01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:07.240
government point of view again I don't

01:35:07.240 --> 01:35:08.860
blame them from their point of view

01:35:08.860 --> 01:35:10.900
you know they're gonna they're gonna use it as long

01:35:10.900 --> 01:35:12.920
as they can but this is why we have separate

01:35:12.920 --> 01:35:14.920
interests but if you just look at the people

01:35:14.920 --> 01:35:17.000
the home front you have long lines

01:35:17.000 --> 01:35:19.040
you can't even get on an airplane with

01:35:19.040 --> 01:35:21.100
the people themselves with a

01:35:21.100 --> 01:35:23.020
government shutdown which for libertarians

01:35:23.020 --> 01:35:24.760
that's a holiday but you know it's like

01:35:24.760 --> 01:35:26.860
the system is not working at all

01:35:26.860 --> 01:35:28.880
for how long you can't get

01:35:28.880 --> 01:35:30.640
on an airplane I keep saying this but it's

01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:32.520
disrupting so many things in business

01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:34.900
and and not to mention vacation time

01:35:34.900 --> 01:35:36.700
for spring break that we just had they're coming

01:35:36.700 --> 01:35:38.360
up you have all this happening

01:35:38.940 --> 01:35:41.000
and yet all of the attention

01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:42.680
every press conference everything

01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:44.860
is about a war that

01:35:44.860 --> 01:35:46.600
Donald Trump ran on he wouldn't do

01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:48.840
and then lastly is with Joe

01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:50.840
Ken I know I talked about him earlier but

01:35:50.840 --> 01:35:52.580
everything I just talked about just now

01:35:52.580 --> 01:35:54.800
it just lines back

01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:56.620
up with Joe Kent and no I'm not trying to have a

01:35:56.620 --> 01:35:57.940
love affair with Joe Kent I'm just

01:35:58.740 --> 01:36:00.660
I smell these things just like when Donald

01:36:00.660 --> 01:36:02.340
Trump came down the aisle at the escalator

01:36:02.340 --> 01:36:04.760
and I said I know this guy is gonna be

01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:06.300
the disruptor you guys won't believe it

01:36:06.300 --> 01:36:08.600
and I said that about Ron DeSantis although

01:36:08.600 --> 01:36:10.460
I also didn't think he was gonna make it but I knew

01:36:10.460 --> 01:36:12.500
he would be a player this will be Joe Kent

01:36:12.500 --> 01:36:14.600
and just to echo what I was talking about

01:36:14.960 --> 01:36:16.280
you know there's the draft

01:36:16.280 --> 01:36:18.500
they're threatening the draft and if you

01:36:18.500 --> 01:36:20.540
think young boys who a lot of them don't

01:36:20.540 --> 01:36:22.220
have a lot of testosterone anyway and that's

01:36:22.220 --> 01:36:24.580
another conversation for maybe later on

01:36:24.580 --> 01:36:26.260
in the show afterwards about

01:36:26.260 --> 01:36:28.340
a sexist society but

01:36:28.340 --> 01:36:30.260
you know you've got young men who do not

01:36:30.260 --> 01:36:32.020
want to be fighting and if there's a threat

01:36:32.020 --> 01:36:33.780
of a draft or there is a draft

01:36:33.780 --> 01:36:36.320
Joe Kent's popularity goes through

01:36:36.320 --> 01:36:38.380
the roof also Joe lost

01:36:38.380 --> 01:36:40.240
his wife you know but in the

01:36:40.240 --> 01:36:42.260
military I mean how many how many people

01:36:42.260 --> 01:36:43.940
if he becomes a publicist he is a politician

01:36:43.940 --> 01:36:46.120
but if he runs for office how many

01:36:46.120 --> 01:36:48.200
I mean you never you don't run in

01:36:48.200 --> 01:36:50.040
war heroes running for office anymore I guess

01:36:50.040 --> 01:36:52.240
the last one we've ever had was Eisenhower

01:36:52.240 --> 01:36:54.120
but to have Joe Kent

01:36:54.120 --> 01:36:56.020
who lost his wife he has

01:36:56.020 --> 01:36:58.160
I hate to say this term a story

01:36:58.160 --> 01:37:00.140
it's like an American Idol doesn't matter

01:37:00.140 --> 01:37:02.060
how good you sing you have to have like

01:37:02.060 --> 01:37:04.120
a dying grandmother or somebody in

01:37:04.120 --> 01:37:05.600
order to give you a good story to

01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:08.540
for people to root for again in no way

01:37:08.540 --> 01:37:09.860
am I trying to minimize

01:37:09.860 --> 01:37:12.180
Joe Kent we gotta get to Andrew

01:37:12.180 --> 01:37:14.020
he's lost but

01:37:14.020 --> 01:37:16.180
that's that's the issue there is

01:37:16.180 --> 01:37:18.100
I think his story is

01:37:18.100 --> 01:37:19.980
going to ring true especially

01:37:19.980 --> 01:37:21.960
if you have veterans or people in the

01:37:21.960 --> 01:37:23.560
military currently who who

01:37:23.560 --> 01:37:25.940
have losses of family lose their children

01:37:25.940 --> 01:37:27.840
then there's troops on the ground

01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:29.300
which is going to decrease votes

01:37:29.300 --> 01:37:31.740
immensely since Ben Shapiro even said

01:37:31.740 --> 01:37:33.780
that will never happen with his eyebrows

01:37:33.780 --> 01:37:35.660
and then of like I think you're saying

01:37:35.660 --> 01:37:37.940
I think it was you but you know they keep

01:37:37.940 --> 01:37:39.840
changing you know this will never

01:37:39.840 --> 01:37:41.820
happen and then when it does they just

01:37:41.820 --> 01:37:43.780
flippantly say well of course it had to

01:37:43.780 --> 01:37:45.940
happen and it's the ultimate gas

01:37:45.940 --> 01:37:47.920
lighting and then you have the lack

01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:49.960
of credibility of this

01:37:49.960 --> 01:37:51.700
administration I mean remember that poll

01:37:51.700 --> 01:37:53.620
they put out last week that MAGA

01:37:53.620 --> 01:37:56.020
100% of MAGA supports

01:37:56.020 --> 01:37:58.440
the president and the war

01:37:58.440 --> 01:37:59.860
I mean it's incredible it's like

01:37:59.860 --> 01:38:01.920
watching Pravda or CNN

01:38:01.920 --> 01:38:04.000
and if you don't you're not MAGA

01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:05.740
you're excommunicating yeah and

01:38:05.740 --> 01:38:07.700
while you were talking the you know

01:38:07.700 --> 01:38:09.920
your last round of chatting I just

01:38:09.920 --> 01:38:11.600
got pressing news

01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:13.820
exciting news Donald Trump

01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:15.860
I'm not making this up

01:38:15.860 --> 01:38:17.340
and then we'll turn to Andrew here

01:38:17.340 --> 01:38:19.380
Donald Trump officially said

01:38:19.380 --> 01:38:21.500
that he needs to change MAGA

01:38:21.500 --> 01:38:23.680
he needs to change what MAGA stands

01:38:23.680 --> 01:38:25.760
for because MAGA is make America

01:38:25.760 --> 01:38:27.860
great again now Ernie and Andrew

01:38:27.860 --> 01:38:29.280
I hope you're both sitting down for this

01:38:29.740 --> 01:38:31.820
so he just announced he's got to change

01:38:31.820 --> 01:38:33.820
it because make America great

01:38:33.820 --> 01:38:35.860
again means that America is not great

01:38:36.440 --> 01:38:37.640
he now has said

01:38:37.640 --> 01:38:39.720
it's now great and so

01:38:39.720 --> 01:38:41.260
he needs to change the term

01:38:41.260 --> 01:38:42.960
so you're feeling

01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:44.980
you're feeling greater now Ernie

01:38:44.980 --> 01:38:47.360
you feel great you feel like he won

01:38:47.360 --> 01:38:49.160
I guess he won we haven't even solved

01:38:49.160 --> 01:38:51.100
any problem you know

01:38:51.100 --> 01:38:53.380
not one Epstein person has even been investigated

01:38:53.380 --> 01:38:55.380
and we're about to go to World War 3

01:38:55.380 --> 01:38:57.280
and in the financial system

01:38:57.280 --> 01:38:59.300
and food and

01:38:59.300 --> 01:39:01.180
but apparently Donald Trump has

01:39:01.180 --> 01:39:03.160
claimed victory at this time

01:39:03.160 --> 01:39:05.360
okay that's a segue let's get to

01:39:05.360 --> 01:39:05.660
Andrew

01:39:07.020 --> 01:39:07.860
Andrew are you there

01:39:11.260 --> 01:39:12.120
Andrew asleep

01:39:12.840 --> 01:39:13.360
Andrew

01:39:16.200 --> 01:39:16.720
Donna

01:39:17.260 --> 01:39:17.940
check with

01:39:17.940 --> 01:39:19.280
give Andrew a call

01:39:19.280 --> 01:39:21.160
see if he dropped out or something

01:39:21.160 --> 01:39:22.620
he's not coming in

01:39:23.920 --> 01:39:25.160
not sure if my audio

01:39:25.160 --> 01:39:25.840
works

01:39:26.700 --> 01:39:27.900
I think I'm ready

01:39:29.100 --> 01:39:30.880
whenever you get your

01:39:31.840 --> 01:39:33.400
audio work and Andrew

01:39:33.400 --> 01:39:34.620
just go ahead and pipe in

01:39:35.020 --> 01:39:36.720
you know so that we can do or you can

01:39:37.060 --> 01:39:39.400
call back and you know try it

01:39:39.400 --> 01:39:40.400
because I don't know

01:39:41.040 --> 01:39:43.340
I'm not sitting in front of your computer man it's you

01:39:43.340 --> 01:39:45.560
so you can go ahead and hang up

01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:47.100
and come back in or work with Donna

01:39:47.100 --> 01:39:49.540
Donna call him and see if you can help him

01:39:50.780 --> 01:39:51.260
now

01:39:51.260 --> 01:39:53.040
the one thing I wanted to Andrew

01:39:53.040 --> 01:39:55.160
if you could hear this I wanted

01:39:55.160 --> 01:39:57.120
to preface our conversation

01:39:57.640 --> 01:39:59.620
with several things that have

01:39:59.620 --> 01:40:01.220
you know been part of

01:40:01.220 --> 01:40:03.020
American lore and

01:40:03.860 --> 01:40:05.260
is something that I saw

01:40:05.260 --> 01:40:07.380
happen after 9 11

01:40:08.780 --> 01:40:09.760
what it was

01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:11.520
it was called just war doctrine

01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:13.660
and this just war doctrine

01:40:13.660 --> 01:40:15.240
thing how it manifested

01:40:15.240 --> 01:40:16.980
itself and in fact it was

01:40:16.980 --> 01:40:19.140
Charles Goyette and I

01:40:19.140 --> 01:40:21.000
walk through this because

01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.400
it was all the

01:40:23.400 --> 01:40:24.460
rage at the time

01:40:25.240 --> 01:40:26.580
what happened was this

01:40:27.600 --> 01:40:29.080
they went to

01:40:29.080 --> 01:40:31.360
all the churches now keep in

01:40:31.360 --> 01:40:33.160
mind when baby bush

01:40:33.160 --> 01:40:35.080
came in they started this thing

01:40:35.080 --> 01:40:37.140
faith-based initiatives

01:40:37.960 --> 01:40:39.240
and of course

01:40:39.240 --> 01:40:40.960
you know the right one is it

01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:43.100
left it and I out quit it back and forth

01:40:43.100 --> 01:40:45.200
and what was going on

01:40:45.200 --> 01:40:47.120
is well we got to have

01:40:47.120 --> 01:40:49.280
a war because it's a just war

01:40:49.280 --> 01:40:50.720
and we're going to

01:40:51.440 --> 01:40:53.460
convince everybody it's a just war

01:40:53.460 --> 01:40:54.420
and then we're going to war

01:40:55.200 --> 01:40:57.060
this is build up into the invasion

01:40:57.060 --> 01:40:58.820
and so on well

01:40:58.820 --> 01:41:00.920
and continuing it and

01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:03.340
it was a thing what they did

01:41:03.340 --> 01:41:04.960
as they go to the churches

01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:07.060
they go to the church leadership

01:41:07.060 --> 01:41:08.760
they get the church leadership

01:41:08.760 --> 01:41:10.420
to get the bible study

01:41:10.420 --> 01:41:13.280
the bible study men

01:41:13.280 --> 01:41:14.900
for the bible study

01:41:14.900 --> 01:41:17.240
men to get other men

01:41:17.240 --> 01:41:18.240
to go to

01:41:19.270 --> 01:41:21.280
one of the leaders homes

01:41:21.280 --> 01:41:22.880
to be indoctrinated

01:41:22.880 --> 01:41:25.220
with this just war doctrine

01:41:25.220 --> 01:41:25.800
thing

01:41:26.900 --> 01:41:28.440
Charles and I went

01:41:29.030 --> 01:41:30.020
to one of these

01:41:30.020 --> 01:41:32.180
it was our bible study

01:41:32.180 --> 01:41:33.400
leader at my church

01:41:34.020 --> 01:41:35.760
that had it at his home

01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:37.480
that you know

01:41:38.220 --> 01:41:40.310
probably like a dozen guys

01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:41.680
go in there

01:41:41.680 --> 01:41:42.920
manly men

01:41:42.920 --> 01:41:45.760
want to do the right thing

01:41:45.760 --> 01:41:47.560
men of men now of course

01:41:47.560 --> 01:41:50.180
Charles and I were now this is

01:41:50.180 --> 01:41:52.000
this war we just want to see

01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:54.100
you know how they're conning you guys

01:41:54.100 --> 01:41:56.220
when we got their introductions

01:41:56.220 --> 01:41:57.600
you know what's up and everything

01:41:57.600 --> 01:41:59.480
then they had a set

01:41:59.480 --> 01:42:01.180
curriculum that they were following

01:42:01.760 --> 01:42:03.220
this is the curriculum

01:42:03.220 --> 01:42:05.020
so then we have

01:42:06.900 --> 01:42:08.760
can you hear us now Andrew

01:42:09.980 --> 01:42:10.500
yes

01:42:10.500 --> 01:42:12.060
okay there you go

01:42:12.060 --> 01:42:14.240
go ahead and listen to this

01:42:14.240 --> 01:42:16.480
and then I want to get your input on this

01:42:18.260 --> 01:42:20.180
during the just war doctrine years

01:42:20.180 --> 01:42:20.800
I don't remember

01:42:21.620 --> 01:42:23.520
you were junior high

01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:25.140
or something so I have no idea

01:42:25.140 --> 01:42:26.620
if you even knew about this

01:42:27.020 --> 01:42:28.940
but they had all the men

01:42:28.940 --> 01:42:30.980
go to one of the leaders homes

01:42:30.980 --> 01:42:32.940
and they got indoctrinated

01:42:32.940 --> 01:42:34.880
it was a multi

01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:36.920
week thing it was

01:42:36.920 --> 01:42:39.240
like double digits like 10 weeks it was

01:42:39.240 --> 01:42:41.000
it had to be a few

01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:43.160
over a few months they were going to

01:42:43.160 --> 01:42:45.280
make political war activists

01:42:45.280 --> 01:42:46.960
out of everybody at

01:42:46.960 --> 01:42:49.040
all of the Christian churches this was

01:42:49.040 --> 01:42:51.180
definitely a Christian

01:42:51.180 --> 01:42:52.160
Zionism thing

01:42:52.760 --> 01:42:54.780
so Charles and I sat there and we asked

01:42:54.780 --> 01:42:55.660
what about

01:42:56.160 --> 01:42:57.140
nope nope nope

01:42:57.860 --> 01:42:59.820
you're not allowed to ask questions

01:43:00.780 --> 01:43:02.340
until at the end

01:43:03.780 --> 01:43:05.320
of the 10-12 weeks

01:43:05.800 --> 01:43:07.560
not even at the end of that day

01:43:08.020 --> 01:43:09.740
you just came and got indoctrinated

01:43:09.740 --> 01:43:11.480
you showed up the next week

01:43:11.480 --> 01:43:12.840
the next week

01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:16.300
and they're going to make Christian Zionists

01:43:16.300 --> 01:43:17.460
out of you know

01:43:17.460 --> 01:43:18.920
whether you like it or not

01:43:18.920 --> 01:43:21.440
this is a southern Baptist church

01:43:22.740 --> 01:43:24.960
so I'm like wow this is how

01:43:24.960 --> 01:43:25.740
they're doing it

01:43:25.740 --> 01:43:28.580
it was called a just war doctrine

01:43:28.580 --> 01:43:30.580
it's an ethical framework

01:43:30.580 --> 01:43:32.440
with roots

01:43:32.440 --> 01:43:34.540
in Augustine and Aquinas

01:43:34.540 --> 01:43:37.040
used to determine when

01:43:37.040 --> 01:43:38.800
war is morally

01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:39.740
permissible

01:43:40.740 --> 01:43:42.340
just adbellum

01:43:42.580 --> 01:43:44.340
and how it must be conducted

01:43:44.340 --> 01:43:45.640
just in bellow

01:43:45.640 --> 01:43:47.800
which is Latin for whatever

01:43:47.800 --> 01:43:49.960
it requires a legitimate

01:43:49.960 --> 01:43:50.700
authority

01:43:51.630 --> 01:43:53.860
just cause like self-defense

01:43:53.860 --> 01:43:55.840
right in tension

01:43:55.840 --> 01:43:57.000
whatever that is

01:43:57.570 --> 01:43:59.420
and it's a last resort

01:43:59.420 --> 01:44:01.180
while requiring

01:44:01.180 --> 01:44:02.760
proportionality

01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:05.180
and immunity

01:44:05.180 --> 01:44:07.980
for non-combatants during fighting

01:44:07.980 --> 01:44:10.800
this just war doctrine

01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:13.140
that Israel was definitely

01:44:13.140 --> 01:44:14.220
helping push

01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:15.640
definitely

01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:17.160
obviously does not

01:44:17.160 --> 01:44:19.340
apply to what's going on in Gaza

01:44:19.340 --> 01:44:20.400
let me just say it

01:44:20.400 --> 01:44:22.960
so these key principles

01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:25.520
you have a just cause

01:44:25.520 --> 01:44:27.700
and it gets into detail about that

01:44:28.220 --> 01:44:30.160
you have a legitimate authority

01:44:30.160 --> 01:44:31.500
you know it's a

01:44:32.220 --> 01:44:34.100
lawful sovereign government or authority

01:44:34.100 --> 01:44:36.160
not private groups you're not allowed

01:44:36.160 --> 01:44:37.140
you know

01:44:37.140 --> 01:44:39.420
right in tension the goal must be

01:44:40.260 --> 01:44:42.080
to reestablish a just

01:44:42.080 --> 01:44:43.900
peace not for territorial

01:44:43.900 --> 01:44:44.720
gain

01:44:45.830 --> 01:44:47.560
vengeance or economic dominance

01:44:48.010 --> 01:44:49.740
so none of this is applying to Israel

01:44:49.740 --> 01:44:51.880
last resort all peaceful

01:44:51.880 --> 01:44:53.980
alternatives have been exhausted

01:44:55.260 --> 01:44:55.920
reasonable

01:44:55.920 --> 01:44:57.260
chance of success

01:44:57.810 --> 01:45:00.040
this is something that was interesting and debated

01:45:00.040 --> 01:45:02.060
a war that is doomed

01:45:02.060 --> 01:45:03.880
to fail is considered unjust

01:45:03.880 --> 01:45:06.360
because it wastes lives for no reason

01:45:06.360 --> 01:45:07.900
now of course Americans

01:45:07.900 --> 01:45:09.540
they're just you know

01:45:09.540 --> 01:45:11.440
they man we're going down

01:45:11.440 --> 01:45:13.020
on our standing on our feet

01:45:13.020 --> 01:45:14.720
not on our knees kind of thing so

01:45:14.720 --> 01:45:15.600
there's that

01:45:16.840 --> 01:45:18.900
proportionality the good to be

01:45:18.900 --> 01:45:20.420
achieved must outweigh

01:45:20.420 --> 01:45:22.880
the expected evil and destruction caused

01:45:22.880 --> 01:45:24.460
by war then in

01:45:24.460 --> 01:45:26.020
conduction of the

01:45:26.020 --> 01:45:28.000
the war you know

01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:30.320
it's a non-combatant

01:45:30.320 --> 01:45:32.300
immunity and you must distinguish

01:45:32.300 --> 01:45:34.920
from civilians and combatants

01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:36.700
proportionality the violence

01:45:36.700 --> 01:45:39.020
must be proportionate to the objective

01:45:39.020 --> 01:45:41.000
excessive force is forbidden

01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:42.820
and this is kind of how

01:45:42.820 --> 01:45:44.720
Iran is arguing this

01:45:44.720 --> 01:45:47.020
all right we'll retaliate this and no more

01:45:47.020 --> 01:45:48.640
we won't escalate we'll respond

01:45:48.640 --> 01:45:50.860
they're trying to follow this

01:45:50.860 --> 01:45:52.860
I think just to

01:45:52.860 --> 01:45:54.800
make us look stupid we're not following our own

01:45:54.800 --> 01:45:55.700
just warcraft

01:45:56.400 --> 01:45:58.840
military necessity actions taken

01:45:58.840 --> 01:46:00.440
must be necessary to achieve

01:46:00.440 --> 01:46:02.520
achieve a legitimate

01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:04.840
military goal

01:46:04.840 --> 01:46:07.420
now justice after the war

01:46:07.420 --> 01:46:08.900
just postbellum

01:46:08.900 --> 01:46:11.240
this focusing on establishing

01:46:11.240 --> 01:46:12.460
a just peace

01:46:13.160 --> 01:46:14.360
repairing damage

01:46:14.360 --> 01:46:16.840
ensuring fair treatment of the

01:46:16.840 --> 01:46:18.660
defeated party well then

01:46:18.660 --> 01:46:20.820
here's Iran going yeah

01:46:20.820 --> 01:46:22.260
you want to stop this war

01:46:22.840 --> 01:46:24.760
we need reparations you gotta pay to

01:46:24.760 --> 01:46:25.680
rebuild all our crap

01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:28.540
you know they're following

01:46:28.540 --> 01:46:29.980
the just war doctrine

01:46:30.730 --> 01:46:31.800
it seems to me

01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:33.740
and we definitely not

01:46:33.740 --> 01:46:35.920
especially with the involvement of Israel

01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:37.080
now

01:46:37.800 --> 01:46:39.840
throughout our culture a lot of times

01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:41.140
we always go back to

01:46:41.800 --> 01:46:43.520
Star Trek all right

01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:45.980
there was an episode called a taste

01:46:45.980 --> 01:46:47.040
of Armageddon

01:46:48.260 --> 01:46:49.540
they're always

01:46:49.540 --> 01:46:52.000
working on current events

01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:53.520
be it racism

01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:55.740
war you know

01:46:55.740 --> 01:46:57.620
economic stuff whatever

01:46:57.620 --> 01:46:59.600
the old Star Trek especially

01:46:59.600 --> 01:47:01.940
definitely was getting all political

01:47:01.940 --> 01:47:03.300
there was

01:47:03.300 --> 01:47:04.500
an episode

01:47:05.200 --> 01:47:06.700
before we go to Andrew

01:47:06.700 --> 01:47:08.700
I'm going to play this a little bit

01:47:08.700 --> 01:47:11.320
about there needs to be

01:47:11.320 --> 01:47:13.280
now I'm not going to play the whole thing

01:47:13.280 --> 01:47:15.200
but it's just there needs to be

01:47:15.200 --> 01:47:17.420
some cost to war

01:47:17.420 --> 01:47:18.900
can't make it this

01:47:18.900 --> 01:47:21.240
you know insulated from

01:47:21.240 --> 01:47:22.660
you know

01:47:22.660 --> 01:47:25.700
you know kind of sort of almost war

01:47:25.700 --> 01:47:26.660
I mean you're going to have war

01:47:26.660 --> 01:47:27.580
you know this

01:47:27.580 --> 01:47:29.800
Geneva Connect vengeance thing

01:47:29.800 --> 01:47:31.980
United Nations if you're doing it right

01:47:31.980 --> 01:47:34.540
now war is freaking war

01:47:34.540 --> 01:47:36.140
well this is a

01:47:36.840 --> 01:47:37.600
Hexeth thing

01:47:37.600 --> 01:47:40.000
we need to just take the gloves off and bomb everybody

01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:41.800
and keep bombing until they're all dead

01:47:41.800 --> 01:47:43.680
let God sort them out you know

01:47:43.680 --> 01:47:45.500
and the glow from the nuclear radiation

01:47:45.500 --> 01:47:46.660
whatever the hell

01:47:48.180 --> 01:47:49.480
so there's that argument

01:47:49.480 --> 01:47:52.260
do you want war to literally be hell

01:47:53.180 --> 01:47:54.340
are you going to have

01:47:54.340 --> 01:47:56.140
like a kinder gentler war

01:47:56.140 --> 01:47:58.100
and we're really serious about this

01:47:58.100 --> 01:48:00.640
well if you make it too sanitized

01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:02.060
you keep having it

01:48:03.040 --> 01:48:04.380
so this is the point

01:48:04.380 --> 01:48:05.440
that they're making here

01:48:05.440 --> 01:48:07.240
go ahead and play this real quick

01:48:07.240 --> 01:48:08.780
and you'll see what I mean

01:48:09.720 --> 01:48:10.800
have been located

01:48:11.420 --> 01:48:14.320
identified and fed into our fire control system

01:48:15.280 --> 01:48:16.380
in one hour

01:48:16.380 --> 01:48:17.580
and 45 minutes

01:48:17.580 --> 01:48:20.300
the entire inhabited surface of your planet

01:48:20.300 --> 01:48:21.060
will be destroyed

01:48:21.940 --> 01:48:23.240
you have not long

01:48:23.240 --> 01:48:24.680
to surrender your hostages

01:48:25.420 --> 01:48:26.560
what can I do

01:48:27.400 --> 01:48:27.920
somebody

01:48:30.440 --> 01:48:30.960
death

01:48:32.480 --> 01:48:33.000
destruction

01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:33.780
disease, horror

01:48:35.340 --> 01:48:36.860
that's what war is all about

01:48:36.860 --> 01:48:37.600
and on

01:48:40.040 --> 01:48:41.180
that's what makes it a thing

01:48:41.180 --> 01:48:41.780
to be avoided

01:48:42.820 --> 01:48:44.520
you've made it neat and painless

01:48:45.980 --> 01:48:46.860
so neat

01:48:46.860 --> 01:48:49.440
and painless you've had no reason to stop it

01:48:49.440 --> 01:48:51.340
and you've had it for 500 years

01:48:52.900 --> 01:48:54.800
since it seems to be the only way I can say

01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:56.040
if my crew

01:48:56.040 --> 01:48:57.220
my ship

01:48:58.900 --> 01:49:00.340
I'm going to end it for you

01:49:00.920 --> 01:49:02.520
one way or another

01:49:03.860 --> 01:49:04.700
Mr. Ambassador

01:49:05.260 --> 01:49:05.920
yes Captain

01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:09.300
would you mind taking these people out into the corridor

01:49:09.300 --> 01:49:10.360
and holding them there

01:49:10.360 --> 01:49:12.240
gentlemen if you'll please

01:49:13.500 --> 01:49:13.980
you

01:49:15.480 --> 01:49:16.320
come with me

01:49:16.320 --> 01:49:17.820
Mr. Osborne

01:49:17.820 --> 01:49:24.440
our communicators weapons

01:49:36.480 --> 01:49:38.760
these are the attack computers Captain

01:49:38.760 --> 01:49:40.260
that one's defense

01:49:40.260 --> 01:49:41.860
that one computes the casualties

01:49:41.860 --> 01:49:45.040
they're all tied in with a subspace transmission unit

01:49:45.040 --> 01:49:46.660
which keeps them in constant contact

01:49:46.660 --> 01:49:47.960
with their vendican counterparts

01:49:47.960 --> 01:49:49.140
that's gone

01:49:49.140 --> 01:49:50.960
the moment contact is broken

01:49:50.960 --> 01:49:54.140
it abrogates the agreement between the two warring parties

01:49:54.140 --> 01:49:55.160
what are you going to do

01:49:56.200 --> 01:49:57.300
this one's the key

01:49:58.380 --> 01:50:00.100
the circuit is now

01:50:00.100 --> 01:50:01.100
locked

01:50:01.100 --> 01:50:03.660
destroy this one and they'll all go

01:50:03.660 --> 01:50:05.340
get them out of here

01:50:05.340 --> 01:50:06.540
wait a minute please

01:50:14.860 --> 01:50:15.480
let's go

01:50:25.320 --> 01:50:26.560
have a conversation

01:50:26.560 --> 01:50:27.960
here we go

01:50:28.840 --> 01:50:30.620
I've given you back the horrors of war

01:50:31.520 --> 01:50:32.820
the vendicans will now assume

01:50:32.820 --> 01:50:33.980
that you've broken your agreement

01:50:33.980 --> 01:50:35.820
and then you're preparing to wage real war

01:50:35.820 --> 01:50:37.800
with real weapons they'll want to do the same

01:50:38.780 --> 01:50:40.460
only the next attack they launch

01:50:40.460 --> 01:50:42.260
will do a lot more than just count up numbers

01:50:42.260 --> 01:50:42.700
on a computer

01:50:43.880 --> 01:50:45.980
they'll destroy your cities devastate your planet

01:50:45.980 --> 01:50:48.060
you of course will want to retaliate

01:50:48.060 --> 01:50:50.040
if I were you I'd start making bombs

01:50:50.760 --> 01:50:52.920
yes Councilman you have a real war

01:50:52.920 --> 01:50:53.880
on your hands

01:50:54.500 --> 01:50:56.720
you can either wage it with real weapons

01:50:56.720 --> 01:50:58.800
or you might

01:50:58.800 --> 01:50:59.880
consider

01:51:00.690 --> 01:51:01.480
an alternative

01:51:02.320 --> 01:51:03.900
put an end to it

01:51:04.720 --> 01:51:05.700
make peace

01:51:06.530 --> 01:51:08.260
there can be no peace

01:51:08.260 --> 01:51:11.420
don't you see we've admitted it to ourselves

01:51:11.420 --> 01:51:13.360
we're a killer species

01:51:13.360 --> 01:51:15.420
it's instinctive it's the same with you

01:51:15.420 --> 01:51:17.640
your general order 24

01:51:18.760 --> 01:51:21.180
alright it's instinctive

01:51:21.180 --> 01:51:22.380
the instinct can be fought

01:51:23.620 --> 01:51:25.120
we're human beings

01:51:25.120 --> 01:51:27.140
with the blood of millions

01:51:27.140 --> 01:51:29.040
savage years on our hands

01:51:30.220 --> 01:51:31.300
but we can stop it

01:51:32.460 --> 01:51:34.600
we can admit that we're

01:51:34.600 --> 01:51:36.300
killers but we're not going to kill today

01:51:36.300 --> 01:51:37.600
that's all it takes

01:51:37.600 --> 01:51:39.420
knowing that we're not going to kill

01:51:39.420 --> 01:51:40.260
today

01:51:41.360 --> 01:51:42.800
and that's all it takes

01:51:42.800 --> 01:51:45.040
we're just not going to kill today

01:51:45.760 --> 01:51:46.680
maybe not tomorrow

01:51:46.680 --> 01:51:47.720
let's hear from Andrew

01:51:47.720 --> 01:51:49.140
let's hear from our guest

01:51:50.900 --> 01:51:51.380
greetings

01:51:51.380 --> 01:51:51.740
thanks

01:51:54.140 --> 01:51:55.020
thank you

01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:57.820
let me introduce him a little bit first Frank

01:51:57.820 --> 01:51:58.820
well now

01:51:59.360 --> 01:52:00.100
wait wait wait

01:52:00.760 --> 01:52:03.760
I just want to say something first because you just did

01:52:03.760 --> 01:52:05.640
that was a long intro there

01:52:05.640 --> 01:52:07.080
I just want to mention briefly

01:52:07.080 --> 01:52:09.020
before you're going to jump back in on this

01:52:09.020 --> 01:52:10.660
that I had talked to Andrew

01:52:10.660 --> 01:52:12.280
I mentioned to the audience a few weeks ago

01:52:12.280 --> 01:52:14.100
I had a nice conversation with Andrew

01:52:14.100 --> 01:52:16.540
Ernie will talk more about his background and activism

01:52:16.540 --> 01:52:17.960
we'll get to that quick

01:52:17.960 --> 01:52:19.700
but I really want to hear his thoughts on

01:52:19.700 --> 01:52:21.520
what's going on in with Israel

01:52:22.580 --> 01:52:24.980
Andrew comes from a very religious background

01:52:24.980 --> 01:52:26.400
and obviously religion

01:52:26.400 --> 01:52:27.340
as very

01:52:27.960 --> 01:52:29.700
people of different viewpoints on it

01:52:29.700 --> 01:52:31.800
so we're just hearing an opinion from Andrew

01:52:31.800 --> 01:52:33.020
but there is

01:52:33.020 --> 01:52:35.320
this discussion about

01:52:35.320 --> 01:52:37.400
this religious war that this current

01:52:37.860 --> 01:52:38.920
issue with Iran

01:52:38.920 --> 01:52:41.780
and Trump and Yahoo is about

01:52:41.780 --> 01:52:43.720
and for those of us that

01:52:43.720 --> 01:52:45.540
maybe are not involved in the religious

01:52:45.540 --> 01:52:48.060
concepts that are going on here

01:52:48.060 --> 01:52:49.480
about the Schofield Bible

01:52:49.480 --> 01:52:51.620
and Genesis 12 and it's sometimes

01:52:51.620 --> 01:52:53.580
I feel like when I'm watching Tucker or some other

01:52:53.580 --> 01:52:55.600
shows I'm watching a revival meeting

01:52:55.600 --> 01:52:57.420
rather than world events and foreign

01:52:57.420 --> 01:52:59.380
policy but the fact that religion

01:52:59.380 --> 01:53:00.960
now has injected itself

01:53:01.440 --> 01:53:03.060
into both the politic body

01:53:03.060 --> 01:53:05.040
of both Israel which I'll talk

01:53:05.040 --> 01:53:07.240
sometime later about the three

01:53:07.240 --> 01:53:09.000
parties going on there

01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:11.860
and here in America with Huckabee and the rest

01:53:11.860 --> 01:53:13.520
I just thought it was apropos

01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:15.800
to have someone who is one of us

01:53:15.800 --> 01:53:17.660
in a sense a libertarian, a background

01:53:17.660 --> 01:53:19.760
who also understands the religious

01:53:20.420 --> 01:53:21.680
debate that's happening

01:53:21.680 --> 01:53:23.580
at least for normies like myself

01:53:23.580 --> 01:53:25.300
so I just wanted to explain to the audience

01:53:25.300 --> 01:53:27.360
why and Andrew is a great friend

01:53:27.360 --> 01:53:29.400
of the show and all of us and I had a

01:53:29.400 --> 01:53:31.740
very enjoyable discussion with him

01:53:31.740 --> 01:53:32.960
he went on for a while

01:53:32.960 --> 01:53:35.320
and I thought you know this would be great information

01:53:35.320 --> 01:53:37.140
for the audience and that's why

01:53:37.140 --> 01:53:39.480
I threw it to Don and Ernie and I'm glad we have him

01:53:39.480 --> 01:53:41.280
on the show so I just wanted to point that out

01:53:41.280 --> 01:53:41.780
go ahead Ernie

01:53:43.200 --> 01:53:44.060
Thank you

01:53:44.920 --> 01:53:46.820
this is the book

01:53:46.820 --> 01:53:48.840
that came to my mind

01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:49.900
it's called

01:53:49.900 --> 01:53:52.800
The Late Great Planet Earth

01:53:52.800 --> 01:53:54.860
now what happened

01:53:54.860 --> 01:53:57.060
is it was very popular in the late

01:53:57.060 --> 01:53:59.120
70s early 80s and so on

01:53:59.120 --> 01:54:00.220
and the reason was

01:54:00.220 --> 01:54:03.480
is because it tried to put in the context

01:54:04.200 --> 01:54:06.800
you know there's a biblical

01:54:06.800 --> 01:54:08.080
road map

01:54:08.080 --> 01:54:10.220
you know it's kind of like

01:54:10.220 --> 01:54:12.060
a timeline that we can

01:54:12.060 --> 01:54:14.060
expect for what do you

01:54:14.060 --> 01:54:15.640
say the wars are all about

01:54:15.640 --> 01:54:18.560
Middle East and this and that whatever was going on

01:54:19.140 --> 01:54:20.720
so what happened was

01:54:21.520 --> 01:54:22.980
it's not that it's true

01:54:22.980 --> 01:54:24.360
or not that's not even the point

01:54:24.360 --> 01:54:26.020
the point is

01:54:26.020 --> 01:54:27.900
is that it's a template

01:54:27.900 --> 01:54:29.840
it's being used

01:54:29.840 --> 01:54:31.820
the Bible and different things

01:54:31.820 --> 01:54:33.920
in out of context whatever

01:54:33.920 --> 01:54:35.680
that they're following

01:54:35.680 --> 01:54:36.900
a road map

01:54:36.900 --> 01:54:39.600
that has been given to the seminaries

01:54:39.600 --> 01:54:41.680
been given to the training

01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:43.640
for them being ministers and pastors

01:54:43.640 --> 01:54:45.200
and a lot of times

01:54:45.200 --> 01:54:46.780
they don't even know it

01:54:46.780 --> 01:54:48.920
they don't know that this is not

01:54:48.920 --> 01:54:50.560
real Christian doctrine

01:54:50.560 --> 01:54:53.480
they don't know that their seminary has been

01:54:53.480 --> 01:54:55.100
hijacked this is like Frank

01:54:55.100 --> 01:54:58.140
has experience with the medical schools

01:54:58.140 --> 01:54:59.720
you know they're not talking about

01:54:59.720 --> 01:55:01.420
nutrition nutrition what the hell is that

01:55:01.420 --> 01:55:03.640
you know they always are talking about

01:55:03.640 --> 01:55:05.200
what it is that they want

01:55:05.200 --> 01:55:06.000
to push

01:55:07.180 --> 01:55:08.800
so Andrew came up

01:55:08.800 --> 01:55:10.940
Andrew's a good activist

01:55:10.940 --> 01:55:12.680
big hey and his wife Gwen

01:55:12.680 --> 01:55:14.480
part of the Ron Paul revolution

01:55:14.480 --> 01:55:16.880
he's also done you know some videos

01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:18.540
a lot of activism on his own

01:55:18.540 --> 01:55:20.760
he's you know and he's

01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:23.140
a really good Christian

01:55:23.640 --> 01:55:24.820
husband man

01:55:25.320 --> 01:55:27.480
father bringing up a family

01:55:27.480 --> 01:55:28.620
and has done

01:55:29.460 --> 01:55:30.760
some of his own research

01:55:30.760 --> 01:55:31.960
and understands

01:55:32.670 --> 01:55:33.640
this issue

01:55:33.640 --> 01:55:36.600
Frank suggested that

01:55:36.600 --> 01:55:38.940
you know a good friend of the show

01:55:38.940 --> 01:55:40.100
and a good guy

01:55:40.510 --> 01:55:43.000
and understanding libertarian philosophy

01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:44.640
can come on

01:55:44.640 --> 01:55:46.580
and shed light on this

01:55:46.580 --> 01:55:48.400
now we have a story up

01:55:48.400 --> 01:55:50.580
with Chuck Baldwin talking about this

01:55:50.580 --> 01:55:52.560
on Top of Remus Phoenix now and he'll be on

01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:54.740
next month and we'll get

01:55:54.740 --> 01:55:56.160
his view on this because he was

01:55:56.510 --> 01:55:57.520
part of that

01:55:58.320 --> 01:55:58.880
grouping

01:55:59.300 --> 01:56:00.900
of pastors and so on that got

01:56:00.900 --> 01:56:03.000
the indoctrination he saw for what it was

01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:05.140
and he's excommunicated himself

01:56:05.140 --> 01:56:07.140
from this influence but

01:56:07.140 --> 01:56:09.240
this is one of his congregations

01:56:09.240 --> 01:56:10.340
he still has it in Montana

01:56:11.440 --> 01:56:12.760
so that's why

01:56:12.760 --> 01:56:14.800
we're having this discussion

01:56:15.800 --> 01:56:17.100
I'm going to leave you alone

01:56:17.100 --> 01:56:18.940
to express yourself we'll see if Frank can

01:56:19.460 --> 01:56:21.220
alright go Andrew

01:56:21.220 --> 01:56:22.640
learn about this man

01:56:22.640 --> 01:56:25.240
introduction with Star Trek and you have to

01:56:25.240 --> 01:56:26.240
end with that comment

01:56:26.990 --> 01:56:28.880
unbelievable anyway but I appreciate it

01:56:28.880 --> 01:56:31.100
thank you Ernie and we'll see if Ernie's quiet too

01:56:31.100 --> 01:56:32.860
but Andrew welcome

01:56:32.860 --> 01:56:35.000
and what would you like those to

01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:36.080
lead off with

01:56:36.080 --> 01:56:37.800
I think before we get started

01:56:38.440 --> 01:56:40.920
one thing I want to remind everyone

01:56:40.920 --> 01:56:41.960
is that

01:56:41.960 --> 01:56:43.940
we all have

01:56:45.400 --> 01:56:46.980
friends, colleagues

01:56:46.980 --> 01:56:47.960
family

01:56:48.900 --> 01:56:50.140
that are

01:56:50.900 --> 01:56:52.920
in this mindset

01:56:52.920 --> 01:56:54.720
this you can call

01:56:54.720 --> 01:56:57.240
Zionist Christianity Dispensationalism

01:56:57.240 --> 01:56:58.840
we're going to get into that a little bit

01:56:58.840 --> 01:57:00.760
where this

01:57:00.760 --> 01:57:02.520
ideology, this theology or

01:57:02.520 --> 01:57:04.360
eschatology comes from

01:57:04.920 --> 01:57:06.740
and we have to remind ourselves

01:57:06.740 --> 01:57:07.980
as we're talking about that

01:57:07.980 --> 01:57:10.900
these Christian

01:57:10.900 --> 01:57:12.780
these Christian brothers of ours

01:57:13.480 --> 01:57:14.540
they're still

01:57:14.540 --> 01:57:16.620
Christians they may be

01:57:16.620 --> 01:57:18.900
we may be in complete

01:57:18.900 --> 01:57:21.000
disagreement on the eschatology

01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:23.180
and the eschatology

01:57:23.180 --> 01:57:24.540
views maybe

01:57:25.640 --> 01:57:27.100
are shaping

01:57:27.100 --> 01:57:27.740
and forming

01:57:27.740 --> 01:57:29.700
the decisions

01:57:29.700 --> 01:57:32.460
where their support lies

01:57:32.460 --> 01:57:34.780
what their expectations are

01:57:34.780 --> 01:57:37.200
and that translates

01:57:37.200 --> 01:57:39.160
into politics

01:57:39.160 --> 01:57:40.120
as well

01:57:40.920 --> 01:57:42.820
but we have to remind ourselves

01:57:42.820 --> 01:57:45.000
that these are still Christians

01:57:45.540 --> 01:57:46.580
these are still good people

01:57:46.580 --> 01:57:47.400
these are our friends

01:57:47.400 --> 01:57:48.960
and so

01:57:48.960 --> 01:57:50.960
as difficult as it may be

01:57:50.960 --> 01:57:53.420
we do want to come

01:57:53.420 --> 01:57:54.980
in through that and not

01:57:54.980 --> 01:57:56.540
get wrapped up into

01:57:57.320 --> 01:57:59.080
kind of like a fight

01:57:59.080 --> 01:58:01.100
or kind of like

01:58:01.100 --> 01:58:02.420
really, you know

01:58:02.420 --> 01:58:04.440
we want to build bridges

01:58:04.440 --> 01:58:06.720
we don't want to destroy relationships

01:58:06.720 --> 01:58:09.500
we want to bring people into the realization

01:58:09.500 --> 01:58:11.340
so we need to know the words

01:58:11.340 --> 01:58:12.980
that you're saying eschatology

01:58:12.980 --> 01:58:14.620
is the theological

01:58:14.620 --> 01:58:16.200
study of last

01:58:16.200 --> 01:58:18.520
things focusing on the ultimate destiny

01:58:18.520 --> 01:58:20.880
of humanity and the cosmos

01:58:20.880 --> 01:58:22.500
including death, the judgment

01:58:22.500 --> 01:58:24.140
and the final state

01:58:24.140 --> 01:58:26.620
key themes include the return

01:58:26.620 --> 01:58:28.300
of Jesus Christ, the resurrection

01:58:28.300 --> 01:58:29.840
of the dead, final judgment

01:58:29.840 --> 01:58:31.420
and the renewal of creation

01:58:31.420 --> 01:58:34.220
aiming to provide hope and meaning

01:58:34.220 --> 01:58:35.700
it serves as a framework

01:58:35.700 --> 01:58:38.180
for understanding God's ultimate purpose

01:58:38.180 --> 01:58:40.760
in history so that's eschatology

01:58:40.760 --> 01:58:41.820
you know or

01:58:41.820 --> 01:58:42.900
ecotot whatever

01:58:42.900 --> 01:58:45.640
so don't go through around these big words man

01:58:45.640 --> 01:58:46.880
we gotta know what they mean

01:58:46.880 --> 01:58:49.440
so let's talk about a little eschatology

01:58:50.340 --> 01:58:52.120
just to kind of frame it

01:58:53.100 --> 01:58:54.120
eschatology is not

01:58:54.120 --> 01:58:55.000
just

01:58:56.020 --> 01:58:57.420
doesn't have just one

01:58:57.420 --> 01:58:59.740
view of the

01:58:59.740 --> 01:59:01.140
end times there are many

01:59:01.780 --> 01:59:02.980
systems I'm not

01:59:03.680 --> 01:59:05.100
I'm not very big on systems

01:59:05.100 --> 01:59:07.680
because systems are created by people to interpret

01:59:07.680 --> 01:59:08.720
the Bible

01:59:08.720 --> 01:59:10.200
and when you take

01:59:10.200 --> 01:59:12.560
a human system where you have

01:59:12.560 --> 01:59:14.240
kind of an end idea

01:59:14.240 --> 01:59:16.680
and then you try to impose

01:59:16.680 --> 01:59:17.900
that on the Bible

01:59:17.900 --> 01:59:20.200
or onto

01:59:20.600 --> 01:59:22.000
Scripture then

01:59:22.000 --> 01:59:24.600
you're going to try to

01:59:24.600 --> 01:59:26.460
read things into it

01:59:26.460 --> 01:59:27.900
or put it into a

01:59:28.680 --> 01:59:30.180
certain viewpoint that

01:59:30.720 --> 01:59:32.420
may not be historical

01:59:33.600 --> 01:59:34.780
for Christians

01:59:34.780 --> 01:59:35.780
and

01:59:35.780 --> 01:59:37.980
the current eschatology

01:59:37.980 --> 01:59:39.320
that we're talking about

01:59:39.320 --> 01:59:42.040
is called dispensationalism

01:59:42.040 --> 01:59:42.840
and

01:59:43.800 --> 01:59:44.560
dispensationalism

01:59:44.560 --> 01:59:47.600
I think it's good to take a historic view

01:59:47.600 --> 01:59:48.940
where did it come from

01:59:49.780 --> 01:59:51.500
how long has it been around

01:59:51.500 --> 01:59:53.820
because a lot of people like me

01:59:53.820 --> 01:59:55.980
I'm very much a product

01:59:55.980 --> 01:59:58.280
of dispensational theology

01:59:58.280 --> 02:00:00.060
by family

02:00:00.060 --> 02:00:01.900
evangelical family

02:00:01.900 --> 02:00:02.260
go ahead

02:00:03.380 --> 02:00:04.980
What does that mean?

02:00:06.080 --> 02:00:06.340
So

02:00:06.340 --> 02:00:07.960
dispensationalism

02:00:07.960 --> 02:00:09.480
is a

02:00:09.480 --> 02:00:12.420
term that was coined in

02:00:12.420 --> 02:00:14.300
1927

02:00:14.300 --> 02:00:16.380
I believe

02:00:16.380 --> 02:00:17.940
around that time

02:00:17.940 --> 02:00:19.900
by Philip

02:00:19.900 --> 02:00:20.760
Moro

02:00:20.760 --> 02:00:23.580
he was a

02:00:24.080 --> 02:00:25.900
Evangelical he actually

02:00:25.900 --> 02:00:28.100
at the time dipped his toes

02:00:28.100 --> 02:00:29.860
into this theology

02:00:29.860 --> 02:00:31.260
and to get to that

02:00:32.380 --> 02:00:33.340
the theology

02:00:33.340 --> 02:00:35.120
actually goes back further

02:00:35.120 --> 02:00:36.940
than when it was coined

02:00:36.940 --> 02:00:38.500
it was already a thing

02:00:38.500 --> 02:00:40.880
so if we want to go back to the beginning

02:00:40.880 --> 02:00:43.580
and before I get there

02:00:43.580 --> 02:00:45.380
I wanted to say one thing though

02:00:45.920 --> 02:00:47.620
I didn't want to skip too far ahead

02:00:47.620 --> 02:00:49.520
but I wanted to just

02:00:49.520 --> 02:00:51.100
kind of go back to the fact

02:00:51.100 --> 02:00:53.680
of my experience

02:00:53.680 --> 02:00:55.920
of life and kind of how I come here

02:00:55.920 --> 02:00:57.060
because I was raised in

02:00:57.060 --> 02:00:58.660
a household

02:00:58.660 --> 02:01:01.220
that had what people would call today

02:01:01.220 --> 02:01:01.880
you know

02:01:02.640 --> 02:01:05.300
kind of a Zionist Christian views

02:01:05.300 --> 02:01:07.280
right but it's not

02:01:07.280 --> 02:01:09.140
you know when you're raised

02:01:09.140 --> 02:01:11.200
in that and you're going to church

02:01:11.200 --> 02:01:13.240
you know that's not like a

02:01:13.240 --> 02:01:14.380
very it's not like a

02:01:14.380 --> 02:01:15.920
it's a cornerstone

02:01:15.920 --> 02:01:17.460
but when you're in church

02:01:17.460 --> 02:01:19.840
it's not like always the main

02:01:20.460 --> 02:01:21.620
focus of the church

02:01:21.620 --> 02:01:22.980
matter of fact

02:01:22.980 --> 02:01:24.560
most dispensational

02:01:24.560 --> 02:01:26.160
or you know Christians

02:01:26.160 --> 02:01:27.840
that hold to these

02:01:27.840 --> 02:01:29.480
fundamental views

02:01:29.480 --> 02:01:32.540
that have become like Zionist

02:01:32.540 --> 02:01:33.280
Christianity

02:01:34.640 --> 02:01:36.740
known as in pop culture

02:01:36.740 --> 02:01:37.200
today

02:01:38.670 --> 02:01:40.540
they're very rock solid

02:01:40.540 --> 02:01:42.940
on a lot of majors in Christianity

02:01:42.940 --> 02:01:44.260
like who is Jesus

02:01:44.260 --> 02:01:45.380
your faith in Jesus

02:01:45.380 --> 02:01:48.680
and so they see the Christian

02:01:48.680 --> 02:01:50.660
church they have a very solid view on that

02:01:50.660 --> 02:01:51.820
that and most Christian

02:01:52.540 --> 02:01:54.900
even Christians that are not dispensationalist

02:01:54.900 --> 02:01:56.200
would not disagree with

02:01:56.200 --> 02:01:57.560
most of those teachings

02:01:57.560 --> 02:01:59.720
but there is a divergence

02:02:00.440 --> 02:02:03.100
in the theology

02:02:03.760 --> 02:02:04.320
so

02:02:04.320 --> 02:02:06.800
let's and I grew up in that

02:02:06.800 --> 02:02:08.260
I grew up when I was young

02:02:08.260 --> 02:02:10.960
watching Howl Lindsey my parents would be watching Howl Lindsey

02:02:10.960 --> 02:02:12.640
you know the author of the late great

02:02:12.640 --> 02:02:14.320
Planet Earth on TV

02:02:14.320 --> 02:02:16.500
and I really love that

02:02:16.500 --> 02:02:18.180
I love getting into prophecy

02:02:18.180 --> 02:02:20.220
and in times of thinking

02:02:20.220 --> 02:02:22.120
about even back then they were discussing

02:02:22.120 --> 02:02:23.420
Iran

02:02:24.100 --> 02:02:24.980
and Russia

02:02:25.980 --> 02:02:28.180
and you know the Armageddon

02:02:29.080 --> 02:02:29.380
and

02:02:29.380 --> 02:02:32.040
and lighting things up looking at the newspaper

02:02:32.040 --> 02:02:33.900
and just lining things up

02:02:33.900 --> 02:02:35.380
with a

02:02:35.380 --> 02:02:37.160
biblical prophecy

02:02:37.900 --> 02:02:39.880
as they saw it and

02:02:39.880 --> 02:02:41.280
it was very interesting but

02:02:41.860 --> 02:02:43.580
as years went on as I

02:02:43.940 --> 02:02:46.060
looked at things as I got pretty deep

02:02:46.060 --> 02:02:46.740
into it

02:02:46.740 --> 02:02:48.500
I started

02:02:48.500 --> 02:02:51.540
having questions that just could not be answered

02:02:51.540 --> 02:02:53.540
things that puzzle pieces that just

02:02:53.540 --> 02:02:54.460
would not fit

02:02:54.460 --> 02:02:57.220
and so it was

02:02:57.220 --> 02:02:59.820
a process over a long period

02:02:59.820 --> 02:03:00.520
of time

02:03:00.520 --> 02:03:03.100
where I became

02:03:03.780 --> 02:03:05.920
I started not to view

02:03:05.920 --> 02:03:06.920
what was called

02:03:06.920 --> 02:03:09.360
I became the new

02:03:09.360 --> 02:03:11.960
the reason was

02:03:11.960 --> 02:03:13.460
pre-millennial is views

02:03:13.460 --> 02:03:13.880
right

02:03:13.880 --> 02:03:16.260
pre-tribulation rapture

02:03:16.260 --> 02:03:18.340
and that was a big part of that

02:03:18.340 --> 02:03:19.480
and as I

02:03:20.320 --> 02:03:23.120
learned more and just had more questions in my mind

02:03:23.120 --> 02:03:25.200
I kind of veered away from that

02:03:26.080 --> 02:03:27.520
and we're going to talk

02:03:27.520 --> 02:03:28.840
about a little bit why

02:03:28.840 --> 02:03:30.980
because even not knowing

02:03:30.980 --> 02:03:32.720
the history of it that's really important

02:03:32.720 --> 02:03:34.600
I didn't have the pieces of the history

02:03:34.600 --> 02:03:36.800
and I think it's important to go back to be

02:03:36.800 --> 02:03:38.720
we'll start into diving into this

02:03:38.720 --> 02:03:40.720
where does this theology come from

02:03:40.720 --> 02:03:42.060
what happened

02:03:42.290 --> 02:03:44.800
the farthest back you can

02:03:44.800 --> 02:03:45.980
go is to

02:03:46.690 --> 02:03:48.400
the 1830

02:03:48.400 --> 02:03:50.040
about 1830s

02:03:50.040 --> 02:03:51.700
when in Ireland

02:03:51.700 --> 02:03:53.180
and in England

02:03:53.180 --> 02:03:55.640
there was a small movement

02:03:55.640 --> 02:03:58.220
called the Brethren of Plymouth

02:03:58.720 --> 02:03:59.320
because

02:03:59.320 --> 02:04:02.580
they were out of Dublin, Ireland

02:04:02.580 --> 02:04:03.960
and Plymouth

02:04:03.960 --> 02:04:05.200
and England

02:04:05.200 --> 02:04:08.100
they called themselves Christians

02:04:08.100 --> 02:04:09.680
they didn't actually give themselves the term

02:04:09.680 --> 02:04:11.600
but to distinguish them

02:04:11.600 --> 02:04:14.410
they were given the name Brethren of Plymouth

02:04:14.680 --> 02:04:16.060
and this is where

02:04:16.060 --> 02:04:17.120
John

02:04:18.100 --> 02:04:19.420
John Nelson Darby

02:04:20.100 --> 02:04:21.100
comes in

02:04:21.100 --> 02:04:22.620
what we call Darbyism

02:04:23.750 --> 02:04:25.620
he was

02:04:25.620 --> 02:04:26.560
someone that

02:04:27.820 --> 02:04:28.600
took

02:04:28.600 --> 02:04:32.300
these early views

02:04:32.300 --> 02:04:33.500
and

02:04:33.500 --> 02:04:35.420
kind of systematized them

02:04:35.420 --> 02:04:36.400
and

02:04:37.400 --> 02:04:39.220
through what became

02:04:39.220 --> 02:04:41.280
there was an open and exclusive

02:04:41.280 --> 02:04:43.380
brethren sex that became

02:04:43.380 --> 02:04:45.340
and he was part of the exclusive one

02:04:45.340 --> 02:04:46.860
which is a little more hardcore

02:04:46.860 --> 02:04:49.200
but through his teachings

02:04:51.200 --> 02:04:53.200
which became later known

02:04:53.200 --> 02:04:54.380
as dispensationalism

02:04:54.380 --> 02:04:56.540
which is the view

02:04:56.540 --> 02:04:58.220
that there are

02:04:59.420 --> 02:05:01.420
several dispensations

02:05:01.960 --> 02:05:02.560
or

02:05:02.560 --> 02:05:04.440
what we would go

02:05:04.440 --> 02:05:06.680
and look in the Bible as covenants

02:05:07.080 --> 02:05:07.440
so

02:05:07.440 --> 02:05:10.380
you have covenants throughout the Bible

02:05:10.380 --> 02:05:12.400
and these are

02:05:13.780 --> 02:05:14.940
divided into

02:05:14.940 --> 02:05:16.620
different dispensations

02:05:16.620 --> 02:05:18.660
so the last dispensation

02:05:18.660 --> 02:05:20.960
would be Jesus's

02:05:20.960 --> 02:05:21.680
covenant

02:05:22.440 --> 02:05:24.540
but in the theology

02:05:24.540 --> 02:05:27.000
of this fundamentalism

02:05:27.000 --> 02:05:28.180
and dispensationalism

02:05:28.180 --> 02:05:29.460
where they take a literal

02:05:29.460 --> 02:05:31.600
translation of the Bible

02:05:31.600 --> 02:05:33.440
a strict literal

02:05:33.440 --> 02:05:34.780
word for word

02:05:34.780 --> 02:05:37.300
and then trying to look at things

02:05:37.300 --> 02:05:39.600
they believe that the promises

02:05:39.600 --> 02:05:41.160
in the Bible

02:05:41.160 --> 02:05:43.000
through other dispensations

02:05:43.000 --> 02:05:45.220
such as with

02:05:46.640 --> 02:05:47.500
Abraham

02:05:47.500 --> 02:05:48.880
and

02:05:49.460 --> 02:05:50.120
David

02:05:50.120 --> 02:05:53.180
it's eras, it's kind of periods of time

02:05:53.180 --> 02:05:54.720
well it is

02:05:54.720 --> 02:05:57.460
but it's kind of

02:05:57.460 --> 02:05:58.240
promised the land

02:05:59.200 --> 02:06:01.240
rather than seeing

02:06:01.240 --> 02:06:03.320
that these covenants were

02:06:03.320 --> 02:06:05.300
replaced by a better covenant

02:06:05.300 --> 02:06:07.200
they believe that they're still active

02:06:07.200 --> 02:06:08.800
it's such a way that

02:06:09.460 --> 02:06:10.140
Christians

02:06:11.220 --> 02:06:12.860
we have a covenant

02:06:12.860 --> 02:06:14.560
through God, through Jesus

02:06:15.340 --> 02:06:16.280
but that

02:06:16.280 --> 02:06:18.800
they started believing and preaching

02:06:18.800 --> 02:06:20.880
in the 1830's that Jews

02:06:20.880 --> 02:06:22.760
had their own distinct covenant

02:06:22.760 --> 02:06:23.740
that was still there

02:06:23.740 --> 02:06:25.800
and that it was still active

02:06:25.800 --> 02:06:26.380
and that

02:06:26.380 --> 02:06:29.820
it has to do with their intimus

02:06:29.820 --> 02:06:30.580
ketology

02:06:31.670 --> 02:06:33.540
and their pre-tribulation

02:06:33.540 --> 02:06:35.680
rapture and the thousand years

02:06:35.680 --> 02:06:37.480
that they believe is

02:06:37.480 --> 02:06:39.460
going to transpire after

02:06:39.460 --> 02:06:41.200
everyone's all Christian

02:06:41.200 --> 02:06:43.100
the church is raptured out of here

02:06:43.740 --> 02:06:45.620
so these views

02:06:45.620 --> 02:06:46.700
by

02:06:47.540 --> 02:06:48.360
Darby

02:06:48.360 --> 02:06:51.740
John Darby

02:06:51.740 --> 02:06:52.360
Nelson Darby

02:06:54.220 --> 02:06:54.900
later

02:06:55.800 --> 02:06:57.180
got picked up

02:06:57.500 --> 02:06:58.740
by other movements

02:06:58.740 --> 02:07:01.160
this was strictly something that was

02:07:01.480 --> 02:07:03.160
overseas and so it was not a popular

02:07:03.160 --> 02:07:05.140
thing here in America, it was not even a thing

02:07:05.460 --> 02:07:06.520
it came over

02:07:06.520 --> 02:07:08.560
he came over here

02:07:08.560 --> 02:07:10.540
or his views came over here

02:07:10.540 --> 02:07:11.400
to America

02:07:11.400 --> 02:07:14.480
and the views that were more focused

02:07:14.480 --> 02:07:15.220
on the

02:07:15.220 --> 02:07:17.300
the culture

02:07:17.300 --> 02:07:18.540
just the

02:07:19.040 --> 02:07:20.100
Ireland and England

02:07:20.100 --> 02:07:23.080
those views kind of got systematized

02:07:23.080 --> 02:07:24.480
into American politics

02:07:24.480 --> 02:07:26.320
and American expectations

02:07:26.320 --> 02:07:28.300
and remember this is about

02:07:28.300 --> 02:07:30.840
the 1860's kind of during the Civil War

02:07:31.520 --> 02:07:32.160
before

02:07:32.160 --> 02:07:34.080
and just around that time

02:07:34.080 --> 02:07:36.660
and so we'd go through this Civil War stuff

02:07:36.660 --> 02:07:38.640
these views are kind of coming in here

02:07:39.300 --> 02:07:41.260
and they're finding residents

02:07:41.260 --> 02:07:43.400
especially after the Civil War

02:07:44.660 --> 02:07:45.740
in America

02:07:45.960 --> 02:07:47.940
and so they become

02:07:47.940 --> 02:07:49.600
a little bit more reformatted

02:07:50.060 --> 02:07:50.920
for American

02:07:50.920 --> 02:07:53.380
consumption, these views

02:07:53.380 --> 02:07:55.520
but find a very strong

02:07:55.520 --> 02:07:57.220
following that just starts to

02:07:57.220 --> 02:07:57.980
explode

02:07:57.980 --> 02:08:00.520
and it has to do with

02:08:01.160 --> 02:08:02.880
just north

02:08:02.880 --> 02:08:05.380
and south and things that were going on

02:08:05.380 --> 02:08:07.620
to reunite the country at the time

02:08:09.220 --> 02:08:11.360
but this found a home

02:08:11.360 --> 02:08:12.040
in that and

02:08:12.040 --> 02:08:14.780
you had the Moody movement

02:08:15.260 --> 02:08:17.100
so Dwight L. Moody

02:08:17.100 --> 02:08:19.120
another person in the

02:08:20.200 --> 02:08:21.960
1800's or 19th century

02:08:21.960 --> 02:08:23.100
started

02:08:23.100 --> 02:08:25.380
leading this worldwide evangelism

02:08:25.380 --> 02:08:25.900
campaign

02:08:26.960 --> 02:08:27.380
promoting

02:08:29.000 --> 02:08:30.260
and systematizing

02:08:31.240 --> 02:08:33.520
what John Nelson Darby

02:08:33.520 --> 02:08:34.980
had

02:08:36.280 --> 02:08:37.120
encapsulated

02:08:37.120 --> 02:08:38.540
over there in Ireland

02:08:38.540 --> 02:08:40.700
and so these were revivals

02:08:40.700 --> 02:08:41.980
and missionary work

02:08:42.540 --> 02:08:43.900
evangelical work

02:08:43.900 --> 02:08:46.680
that's why we have such a strong evangelical movement

02:08:46.680 --> 02:08:47.360
in America

02:08:47.360 --> 02:08:51.100
is because of people like Dwight L. Moody

02:08:51.100 --> 02:08:52.320
and so they did

02:08:52.320 --> 02:08:54.780
when you think about evangelicals today

02:08:54.780 --> 02:08:56.680
this is kind of like the

02:08:56.680 --> 02:08:58.600
1800's this is kind of where all that

02:08:58.600 --> 02:08:59.860
is birthed out of

02:08:59.860 --> 02:09:01.660
it's not as strong

02:09:01.660 --> 02:09:03.340
in most parts of the world

02:09:03.340 --> 02:09:06.480
evangelism is not a strong thing

02:09:06.480 --> 02:09:08.420
and we're talking about even in America

02:09:08.420 --> 02:09:09.720
it's still a very small

02:09:10.480 --> 02:09:12.680
percentage excuse me I got some allergies here so

02:09:12.680 --> 02:09:13.780
let me just

02:09:15.100 --> 02:09:15.700
but

02:09:17.560 --> 02:09:18.160
the

02:09:19.380 --> 02:09:20.340
Schoolfield Bible

02:09:20.340 --> 02:09:22.100
which everybody is very familiar with

02:09:22.100 --> 02:09:24.640
that came at the turn of the century

02:09:24.640 --> 02:09:26.180
so that came I believe

02:09:26.180 --> 02:09:28.060
was published in 1901 or

02:09:28.060 --> 02:09:29.300
close to

02:09:30.080 --> 02:09:32.420
and of course

02:09:33.240 --> 02:09:33.840
Cyrus

02:09:34.680 --> 02:09:35.360
Schoolfield

02:09:35.360 --> 02:09:37.040
was a follower

02:09:37.040 --> 02:09:39.160
of John Darby

02:09:39.840 --> 02:09:41.480
he was also

02:09:41.480 --> 02:09:44.060
you know his work would also

02:09:44.060 --> 02:09:45.260
be influenced or

02:09:45.840 --> 02:09:47.880
would inform the Moody

02:09:47.880 --> 02:09:49.860
movement that kept growing

02:09:49.860 --> 02:09:51.120
over the years

02:09:51.120 --> 02:09:53.540
but Schoolfield was later you know he kind of came

02:09:53.540 --> 02:09:55.440
at the end of the 1800's

02:09:55.440 --> 02:09:57.080
and he was a

02:09:57.580 --> 02:09:58.620
Civil War veteran

02:09:59.640 --> 02:10:00.860
you know kind of a fail

02:10:00.860 --> 02:10:02.260
you know he had many failures

02:10:02.860 --> 02:10:04.340
you know you look at his life

02:10:04.340 --> 02:10:06.040
his lifestyle does not really

02:10:07.120 --> 02:10:08.240
look as

02:10:08.240 --> 02:10:10.460
as much of a Christian lifestyle

02:10:10.460 --> 02:10:12.220
but he got really into the Darby

02:10:12.860 --> 02:10:13.260
theology

02:10:14.500 --> 02:10:17.140
so he made a commentary on the Bible

02:10:17.140 --> 02:10:18.580
because you had at the time

02:10:18.580 --> 02:10:20.160
the old King James Bible

02:10:20.160 --> 02:10:22.560
which is the main Bible in America

02:10:23.260 --> 02:10:24.960
and you know

02:10:24.960 --> 02:10:25.540
it's

02:10:26.140 --> 02:10:26.900
go ahead

02:10:27.540 --> 02:10:28.560
no I'm sorry

02:10:28.560 --> 02:10:30.080
I thought I killed my microphone

02:10:30.080 --> 02:10:32.340
so anyways

02:10:32.340 --> 02:10:33.760
we have the King James Bible

02:10:34.320 --> 02:10:36.000
and he creates

02:10:36.000 --> 02:10:37.760
a commentary on that

02:10:37.760 --> 02:10:39.780
matter of fact my grandfather who was a pastor

02:10:39.780 --> 02:10:42.040
you know I still have

02:10:42.040 --> 02:10:43.720
the Schoolfield Bible on my shelf

02:10:43.720 --> 02:10:45.940
you know it's not really used today

02:10:45.940 --> 02:10:47.140
no one really reads it but

02:10:47.840 --> 02:10:49.500
seminaries started using it

02:10:49.500 --> 02:10:51.980
and so the Moody movement they actually established

02:10:51.980 --> 02:10:53.740
a lot of theological seminaries

02:10:53.740 --> 02:10:54.920
across the United States

02:10:55.740 --> 02:10:57.480
and had a large influence

02:10:57.480 --> 02:10:59.600
and so there's a they all

02:10:59.600 --> 02:11:02.100
when that Schoolfield Bible came out

02:11:02.100 --> 02:11:02.780
it became

02:11:03.600 --> 02:11:05.080
an instructional

02:11:06.420 --> 02:11:07.180
Bible

02:11:07.500 --> 02:11:09.360
to teach theology through

02:11:09.360 --> 02:11:11.880
and of course that would include

02:11:11.880 --> 02:11:13.480
eschatology in times

02:11:13.480 --> 02:11:14.920
and and

02:11:15.740 --> 02:11:17.820
this you know this is

02:11:17.820 --> 02:11:19.580
you know really became

02:11:20.600 --> 02:11:21.360
popularized

02:11:21.360 --> 02:11:23.440
throughout the

02:11:23.440 --> 02:11:25.120
1900s so starting

02:11:25.120 --> 02:11:27.360
in the 1920s

02:11:28.000 --> 02:11:29.240
I mean it was exploding

02:11:29.240 --> 02:11:31.200
but there is not without

02:11:31.200 --> 02:11:33.480
detractors there are a lot of detractors

02:11:33.480 --> 02:11:34.680
like Philip Morrow

02:11:35.200 --> 02:11:36.760
and many others that

02:11:37.360 --> 02:11:39.380
even though they were maybe

02:11:39.380 --> 02:11:41.320
even some of them are on the bandwagon

02:11:41.320 --> 02:11:43.000
of dispensationalism

02:11:43.000 --> 02:11:45.400
or theology it had even

02:11:45.400 --> 02:11:47.400
been coined at the time and so by

02:11:47.400 --> 02:11:48.220
1927

02:11:49.560 --> 02:11:50.360
Philip

02:11:50.360 --> 02:11:52.380
actually coined the term

02:11:52.380 --> 02:11:54.300
and he

02:11:54.300 --> 02:11:56.360
he's the one where we get that from

02:11:56.360 --> 02:11:57.460
but

02:11:58.060 --> 02:12:00.700
and he railed against that the theology

02:12:00.700 --> 02:12:02.200
as he

02:12:02.200 --> 02:12:04.560
believed that the interpretations

02:12:04.560 --> 02:12:06.740
and basically taking this human

02:12:06.740 --> 02:12:07.340
system

02:12:07.340 --> 02:12:09.640
and imposing it on scripture

02:12:10.620 --> 02:12:12.140
was very missed

02:12:12.140 --> 02:12:14.280
was going to be very misleading for Christian

02:12:14.280 --> 02:12:15.080
thought

02:12:15.080 --> 02:12:16.920
and so this

02:12:16.920 --> 02:12:18.440
world view became

02:12:19.040 --> 02:12:20.980
did grow and it actually

02:12:20.980 --> 02:12:22.820
grew through media

02:12:22.820 --> 02:12:24.780
as television, radio

02:12:24.780 --> 02:12:26.820
and these evangelical

02:12:26.820 --> 02:12:28.260
revivals

02:12:29.060 --> 02:12:30.700
flourished through the early parts of the

02:12:30.700 --> 02:12:32.700
20th century

02:12:32.700 --> 02:12:34.400
think of the Billy Graham

02:12:35.080 --> 02:12:35.860
Crusades

02:12:37.000 --> 02:12:38.540
early on

02:12:38.940 --> 02:12:41.100
leading into the 50s

02:12:41.100 --> 02:12:42.720
or 60s and stuff I mean this all

02:12:42.720 --> 02:12:44.960
just kind of kept growing

02:12:44.960 --> 02:12:46.660
and growing and so using

02:12:46.660 --> 02:12:48.860
emerging media radio

02:12:48.860 --> 02:12:49.500
and TV

02:12:50.540 --> 02:12:52.400
to grow it

02:12:52.400 --> 02:12:54.240
because still I mean

02:12:54.240 --> 02:12:56.880
that's how they became a very vocal

02:12:56.880 --> 02:12:58.620
part of

02:12:58.620 --> 02:12:59.640
American culture

02:13:00.640 --> 02:13:02.640
and very much

02:13:02.640 --> 02:13:04.620
so informing us even on our

02:13:04.620 --> 02:13:06.280
outlook of in times

02:13:06.280 --> 02:13:08.300
our outlook of

02:13:08.300 --> 02:13:10.680
you know as Christians

02:13:10.680 --> 02:13:12.560
and even in I think

02:13:12.560 --> 02:13:14.580
just a common American culture

02:13:14.580 --> 02:13:16.580
we used to be much more positive

02:13:16.580 --> 02:13:17.940
you know we used to believe

02:13:18.680 --> 02:13:21.060
that great things awaited

02:13:21.060 --> 02:13:21.440
America

02:13:22.720 --> 02:13:24.380
and with the

02:13:24.380 --> 02:13:26.720
dispensational view it's kind of

02:13:26.720 --> 02:13:28.820
look things are getting

02:13:28.820 --> 02:13:30.900
worse and will only get worse

02:13:30.900 --> 02:13:32.120
until

02:13:33.180 --> 02:13:34.980
until the rapture

02:13:34.980 --> 02:13:35.600
takes place

02:13:35.600 --> 02:13:38.360
now yes things are always worse

02:13:38.360 --> 02:13:40.280
but there's we didn't always have

02:13:40.280 --> 02:13:42.160
the negative outlook of things

02:13:42.160 --> 02:13:44.100
I think that was to me kind of

02:13:44.100 --> 02:13:45.680
informative thing because I have a very

02:13:46.100 --> 02:13:47.920
you know I have a very pessimistic outlook

02:13:47.920 --> 02:13:50.140
on life and but I think

02:13:50.140 --> 02:13:52.800
American culture has been very much

02:13:54.280 --> 02:13:55.760
informed by this and

02:13:56.320 --> 02:13:58.040
we have taken many things

02:13:58.040 --> 02:13:59.180
even if you're not a Christian

02:13:59.180 --> 02:14:01.520
just the fact that our culture

02:14:01.520 --> 02:14:04.080
has had a cultural shift

02:14:04.080 --> 02:14:04.960
in our country

02:14:06.000 --> 02:14:07.340
and that's

02:14:07.340 --> 02:14:08.120
what we see today

02:14:08.680 --> 02:14:11.160
it doesn't take a dispensational

02:14:11.160 --> 02:14:11.700
Christian

02:14:11.700 --> 02:14:14.620
to have these views

02:14:14.620 --> 02:14:17.020
because there's plenty of Americans

02:14:17.020 --> 02:14:19.080
that have internalized

02:14:19.080 --> 02:14:20.600
them to be

02:14:20.600 --> 02:14:22.940
their outlook on life they may not

02:14:22.940 --> 02:14:24.960
believe in the times or the rapture

02:14:24.960 --> 02:14:27.060
but just how

02:14:27.060 --> 02:14:28.960
they approach the world

02:14:30.260 --> 02:14:31.460
who's the enemy

02:14:31.460 --> 02:14:33.260
right you know Russia

02:14:33.260 --> 02:14:34.360
Iran

02:14:34.360 --> 02:14:35.400
you know

02:14:37.060 --> 02:14:38.680
who's our friend

02:14:38.680 --> 02:14:39.920
they don't even question why

02:14:39.920 --> 02:14:42.420
they think that way but this is all

02:14:42.420 --> 02:14:44.000
informed by fundamentalism

02:14:44.000 --> 02:14:47.260
but we must say that fundamentalism

02:14:47.260 --> 02:14:48.720
not all fundamentalists

02:14:48.980 --> 02:14:51.440
are Zionist

02:14:51.440 --> 02:14:53.640
Christians or are dispensationalist

02:14:53.640 --> 02:14:54.440
so

02:14:55.400 --> 02:14:57.120
but in certain segments

02:14:57.120 --> 02:14:59.420
like Baptist would have

02:14:59.420 --> 02:15:01.600
a large segment of dispensationalist

02:15:01.600 --> 02:15:02.520
whereas

02:15:03.420 --> 02:15:04.300
you know

02:15:04.300 --> 02:15:06.720
if you take all Protestants

02:15:06.720 --> 02:15:08.860
and Christians in America

02:15:08.860 --> 02:15:10.260
and throughout the world

02:15:10.260 --> 02:15:12.440
this is a very small minority

02:15:12.440 --> 02:15:14.160
in America we're talking

02:15:14.160 --> 02:15:15.300
you know

02:15:16.100 --> 02:15:19.060
15 to 20 maybe 25% of the population

02:15:19.600 --> 02:15:21.280
it's hard

02:15:21.280 --> 02:15:22.560
to even track how many

02:15:23.520 --> 02:15:25.300
people hold to these views

02:15:25.300 --> 02:15:27.440
in America but it's a very vocal group

02:15:27.440 --> 02:15:28.360
but

02:15:28.360 --> 02:15:30.800
and it may be in certain segments

02:15:30.800 --> 02:15:32.140
like Baptist

02:15:32.140 --> 02:15:34.040
maybe approaching 60

02:15:34.040 --> 02:15:36.340
or greater percentage but

02:15:36.340 --> 02:15:38.440
for most this is

02:15:38.440 --> 02:15:40.040
not a non-issue but

02:15:40.040 --> 02:15:42.620
you're going to know people in your life

02:15:42.620 --> 02:15:43.940
around you that are Christians

02:15:43.940 --> 02:15:45.480
and most of them

02:15:46.640 --> 02:15:49.240
even those that aren't dispensationalist

02:15:49.240 --> 02:15:50.660
because it's such a cultural thing

02:15:50.660 --> 02:15:52.740
may still have

02:15:52.740 --> 02:15:53.920
some outward looking

02:15:53.920 --> 02:15:56.000
views of the world

02:15:57.180 --> 02:15:58.120
you know

02:15:58.120 --> 02:15:59.260
that

02:16:00.000 --> 02:16:02.060
really come from this root cause

02:16:02.060 --> 02:16:03.360
and

02:16:04.000 --> 02:16:05.200
there's an article

02:16:06.200 --> 02:16:07.740
that I read

02:16:07.740 --> 02:16:09.600
let's see here

02:16:09.600 --> 02:16:11.660
it was pretty interesting but

02:16:11.660 --> 02:16:13.640
this is by

02:16:14.500 --> 02:16:15.860
Paul Tanner

02:16:15.860 --> 02:16:18.720
and this is more of a scholarly work

02:16:18.720 --> 02:16:19.820
you know 1992

02:16:20.760 --> 02:16:22.380
this is taken from his work

02:16:22.380 --> 02:16:24.060
called Daniel's King of the North

02:16:24.060 --> 02:16:26.120
do we owe Russia

02:16:26.120 --> 02:16:26.980
an apology

02:16:26.980 --> 02:16:29.960
and basically he goes in

02:16:29.960 --> 02:16:32.400
to the minutia

02:16:32.400 --> 02:16:34.280
of the eschatology

02:16:34.280 --> 02:16:35.380
excuse me

02:16:36.060 --> 02:16:37.860
the minutia

02:16:37.860 --> 02:16:39.260
of the eschatology

02:16:39.920 --> 02:16:41.580
of dispensational beliefs

02:16:41.580 --> 02:16:42.680
and

02:16:42.680 --> 02:16:43.800
why

02:16:43.800 --> 02:16:47.200
why they're

02:16:47.200 --> 02:16:49.600
reading things into certain texts

02:16:49.600 --> 02:16:50.840
that just are not there

02:16:50.840 --> 02:16:52.740
and it has to do with

02:16:52.740 --> 02:16:54.640
really Gog and Magog

02:16:54.640 --> 02:16:55.940
and if you're a Hal Lindsey

02:16:55.940 --> 02:16:58.740
if you've ever watched Hal Lindsey or any of these others

02:16:58.740 --> 02:17:00.620
where they really hark on that

02:17:00.620 --> 02:17:02.360
it's always about Russia

02:17:02.360 --> 02:17:04.400
you know Gog and Magog

02:17:04.400 --> 02:17:06.700
and the end times Armageddon

02:17:06.700 --> 02:17:08.400
and this is

02:17:08.400 --> 02:17:10.560
you know this really became popular

02:17:10.560 --> 02:17:12.220
with the onset of communism

02:17:12.220 --> 02:17:14.080
in Russia in 1917

02:17:14.080 --> 02:17:15.640
when the

02:17:15.640 --> 02:17:17.220
the communists took over

02:17:17.220 --> 02:17:18.280
and

02:17:19.120 --> 02:17:20.580
so before then it wasn't

02:17:21.040 --> 02:17:22.520
it did actually

02:17:23.220 --> 02:17:24.960
I think

02:17:24.960 --> 02:17:26.720
it even mentioned that it goes back to

02:17:26.720 --> 02:17:28.260
some thoughts in the

02:17:29.580 --> 02:17:31.300
Napoleonic wars against Russia

02:17:31.300 --> 02:17:31.640
too

02:17:31.640 --> 02:17:34.300
where some of these views were kind of

02:17:34.300 --> 02:17:37.160
in place or being thrown

02:17:37.160 --> 02:17:39.160
around but it really became a big thing

02:17:40.080 --> 02:17:41.000
with the

02:17:41.000 --> 02:17:41.920
dispensational movement

02:17:41.920 --> 02:17:43.660
and with communism

02:17:43.660 --> 02:17:46.100
well we're all anti-communists

02:17:46.100 --> 02:17:46.540
in America

02:17:47.180 --> 02:17:49.340
we're all against the authoritarian

02:17:49.340 --> 02:17:50.860
state and so

02:17:51.460 --> 02:17:53.860
everybody expected okay well this must be

02:17:53.860 --> 02:17:55.760
a sign that Russia is evil

02:17:56.760 --> 02:17:57.500
they're going

02:17:57.500 --> 02:17:59.220
this kind of like

02:17:59.220 --> 02:18:01.220
informs like we're taking a newspaper

02:18:01.220 --> 02:18:02.780
we're taking our prophecy

02:18:03.360 --> 02:18:05.640
and we're taking our newspaper and we're going like

02:18:05.640 --> 02:18:06.680
oh yeah that matches up

02:18:06.680 --> 02:18:08.180
Russia is a bad country

02:18:09.440 --> 02:18:11.260
our prophecy says that

02:18:11.260 --> 02:18:13.020
Israel will be attacked by it from the north

02:18:13.020 --> 02:18:15.140
and so when you

02:18:15.140 --> 02:18:16.560
put those two and two together

02:18:17.200 --> 02:18:19.460
you know now Russia is forever

02:18:19.460 --> 02:18:21.060
you know it must be

02:18:21.060 --> 02:18:21.940
the

02:18:21.940 --> 02:18:25.200
the Gog and the Begog right it must be

02:18:25.200 --> 02:18:27.100
that evil nation that's going

02:18:27.100 --> 02:18:29.060
to come down and fight Israel

02:18:29.060 --> 02:18:31.140
and so then when you start doing this

02:18:31.140 --> 02:18:32.960
on a national level and this is where

02:18:32.960 --> 02:18:35.000
politics get involved you start

02:18:35.000 --> 02:18:37.240
treating them always and forever

02:18:37.240 --> 02:18:39.020
as a bad guy and yes

02:18:39.020 --> 02:18:40.700
you know communism was bad

02:18:40.700 --> 02:18:42.280
you know communism

02:18:43.020 --> 02:18:44.500
fell you know

02:18:44.780 --> 02:18:46.900
but we still had our views

02:18:46.900 --> 02:18:49.060
of Russia and we would

02:18:49.060 --> 02:18:50.720
never treat them

02:18:50.720 --> 02:18:53.000
as any other

02:18:53.000 --> 02:18:54.940
as any other nation as Europe

02:18:54.940 --> 02:18:56.220
you know we weren't going to

02:18:56.760 --> 02:18:59.320
unless we dominated them we still wanted to

02:18:59.320 --> 02:19:02.880
have this negative view and there's

02:19:02.880 --> 02:19:05.040
many other reasons

02:19:05.040 --> 02:19:06.500
and factors in there of course

02:19:06.500 --> 02:19:08.880
you know this is not one of them but I think this is

02:19:08.880 --> 02:19:10.420
you know where Christians

02:19:10.420 --> 02:19:12.500
get on board with

02:19:12.500 --> 02:19:14.580
government policies and government

02:19:14.580 --> 02:19:16.000
you know what the government

02:19:16.680 --> 02:19:18.120
wants to do you know

02:19:18.120 --> 02:19:20.700
what the military wants to do

02:19:20.700 --> 02:19:22.300
you know they use this

02:19:22.300 --> 02:19:23.780
as a you know well

02:19:23.780 --> 02:19:26.460
you know remember they're a bad country

02:19:26.460 --> 02:19:28.520
we're reminded by people like Hal Lindsay

02:19:28.520 --> 02:19:30.500
over the years that they're

02:19:30.500 --> 02:19:31.860
always going to be forever evil

02:19:31.860 --> 02:19:34.080
and part of the problem and this

02:19:34.080 --> 02:19:36.000
has led us to kind of where we're at

02:19:36.000 --> 02:19:37.780
you know why everybody

02:19:37.780 --> 02:19:40.100
just says hey Iran's a bad

02:19:40.100 --> 02:19:41.760
country Russia's a bad country

02:19:41.760 --> 02:19:43.000
they're just bad they're just evil

02:19:43.000 --> 02:19:45.960
but we're living

02:19:45.960 --> 02:19:47.360
a self fulfilling

02:19:47.820 --> 02:19:48.680
prophecy I think

02:19:49.660 --> 02:19:51.960
with this because we

02:19:51.960 --> 02:19:54.140
have already made the determination

02:19:55.100 --> 02:19:55.660
and

02:19:56.740 --> 02:19:57.860
we're arranging

02:19:57.860 --> 02:19:59.500
our relationships with the world

02:19:59.500 --> 02:20:01.460
in such a way where things play out

02:20:01.460 --> 02:20:03.080
exactly how we predict them

02:20:03.080 --> 02:20:05.420
Andrew I want to chime in

02:20:05.420 --> 02:20:07.140
about the eschatology now

02:20:07.140 --> 02:20:09.000
you're talking about end time eschatology

02:20:09.000 --> 02:20:11.440
from I was part of the Jesus

02:20:11.440 --> 02:20:13.420
seminars if you remember but they are it's another

02:20:13.420 --> 02:20:15.360
conversation they refer

02:20:15.360 --> 02:20:17.240
to as apocalyptic eschatology

02:20:17.240 --> 02:20:19.460
it's probably very we're talking the same thing

02:20:19.460 --> 02:20:20.740
but it's interesting

02:20:21.200 --> 02:20:23.640
you know apocalyptic eschatologists

02:20:23.640 --> 02:20:25.440
have been around since before Jesus

02:20:25.440 --> 02:20:27.280
I mean the Dead Sea Scrolls

02:20:27.280 --> 02:20:29.120
we're talking about that the end times

02:20:29.120 --> 02:20:31.100
and whenever government is oppressive

02:20:31.100 --> 02:20:32.800
this is when we tend to see

02:20:32.800 --> 02:20:35.460
the apocalyptic version come out

02:20:35.460 --> 02:20:36.940
which doesn't mean the completely

02:20:36.940 --> 02:20:38.760
the end of the world but it's a supernatural

02:20:38.760 --> 02:20:40.680
major turn of the key

02:20:40.680 --> 02:20:42.920
and for the Jews they have been

02:20:42.920 --> 02:20:45.260
looking at their version of the

02:20:45.260 --> 02:20:47.260
apocalyptic eschatology I have to keep saying over

02:20:47.960 --> 02:20:48.780
as the

02:20:48.780 --> 02:20:51.060
as the second as the Messiah

02:20:51.060 --> 02:20:53.000
the new Messiah right and they've been waiting

02:20:53.000 --> 02:20:55.400
for the new Messiah and there's a whole history of that

02:20:55.400 --> 02:20:57.480
and Jesus to them was just

02:20:57.480 --> 02:20:59.480
you know a try out and it wasn't him

02:20:59.480 --> 02:21:00.980
and you know they're still waiting around

02:21:00.980 --> 02:21:03.460
so their version I

02:21:03.460 --> 02:21:05.080
think and this is where I want to clarify

02:21:05.080 --> 02:21:07.100
the end time

02:21:07.740 --> 02:21:09.480
eschatology of where the Jews are

02:21:09.480 --> 02:21:11.240
seeing it or at least the Israeli government

02:21:11.940 --> 02:21:13.360
hardliners the Zionists

02:21:13.360 --> 02:21:15.340
versus where the

02:21:15.340 --> 02:21:17.360
fundamentalist Zionist Christians

02:21:17.360 --> 02:21:19.680
see it here because it's almost like

02:21:19.680 --> 02:21:21.480
they're on the same page but they're

02:21:21.480 --> 02:21:23.160
almost to two different goals right

02:21:23.160 --> 02:21:25.400
because if the Jews are seeing it

02:21:25.400 --> 02:21:27.160
as the end time is the Messiah

02:21:27.160 --> 02:21:29.300
and my understanding is that

02:21:29.300 --> 02:21:31.000
the third temple has to be built

02:21:31.000 --> 02:21:33.080
which you know they're talking about it

02:21:33.080 --> 02:21:35.440
and the third temple can't be removed very easily

02:21:35.440 --> 02:21:37.480
right now without them dominating

02:21:37.480 --> 02:21:39.380
the world there or at least that region

02:21:39.380 --> 02:21:40.480
so they don't get blowback

02:21:40.480 --> 02:21:42.240
but then for Christians

02:21:42.240 --> 02:21:44.980
the end time

02:21:44.980 --> 02:21:46.480
is not

02:21:46.480 --> 02:21:48.780
the next Messiah or

02:21:48.780 --> 02:21:50.980
the Jewish Messiah it's the

02:21:50.980 --> 02:21:52.880
second coming of Jesus where then you have

02:21:52.880 --> 02:21:54.340
the revelations which is the true

02:21:54.880 --> 02:21:56.460
apocalyptic eschatologist right

02:21:56.460 --> 02:21:58.680
so is that

02:21:58.680 --> 02:22:00.420
my kind of in the same page there

02:22:00.420 --> 02:22:00.800
are they

02:22:02.680 --> 02:22:04.640
they're similar but they're actually

02:22:04.640 --> 02:22:06.700
having two different conversations and

02:22:06.700 --> 02:22:08.660
goals but we're finding a locking

02:22:08.660 --> 02:22:10.820
of arms for political reasons

02:22:10.820 --> 02:22:12.060
and you know there's other

02:22:12.880 --> 02:22:14.180
stuff involved with the politics

02:22:14.180 --> 02:22:16.020
but is that what you find

02:22:16.020 --> 02:22:18.140
that they were unified but a bit different

02:22:18.660 --> 02:22:20.880
yeah so yeah let's

02:22:20.880 --> 02:22:22.960
begin to that a little bit let's unpack that

02:22:22.960 --> 02:22:23.980
so

02:22:25.060 --> 02:22:25.700
in

02:22:26.780 --> 02:22:28.580
dispensational theology which is

02:22:28.580 --> 02:22:30.900
you know again very new to Christianity

02:22:30.900 --> 02:22:32.900
and you know if we go back

02:22:32.900 --> 02:22:35.040
to what was what what did Christian

02:22:35.040 --> 02:22:36.360
what does the Christian church

02:22:36.360 --> 02:22:38.520
throughout history what

02:22:38.520 --> 02:22:40.220
has been the majority view

02:22:40.220 --> 02:22:41.800
and it was always that

02:22:41.800 --> 02:22:44.060
you know the church

02:22:44.940 --> 02:22:46.180
you know

02:22:46.180 --> 02:22:48.800
was brought into the fold right

02:22:48.800 --> 02:22:50.760
Christian Gentiles were brought into

02:22:50.760 --> 02:22:52.560
the fold and that

02:22:52.560 --> 02:22:54.620
you know through through the church

02:22:54.620 --> 02:22:56.640
which you know remember the

02:22:56.640 --> 02:22:58.700
early Christians were

02:22:58.700 --> 02:23:00.920
Jews right they were Jews that converted

02:23:00.920 --> 02:23:02.700
that that believed in Christ

02:23:02.700 --> 02:23:04.440
they believed in him as a Messiah

02:23:04.440 --> 02:23:06.380
those that didn't just

02:23:06.380 --> 02:23:08.280
all they did is deny him right

02:23:08.620 --> 02:23:10.600
and you know but then

02:23:10.600 --> 02:23:12.220
the disciples well

02:23:12.800 --> 02:23:14.780
they brought you know

02:23:14.780 --> 02:23:16.600
first to the Jews that the Gentiles

02:23:16.600 --> 02:23:18.700
and brought Christian brought the Christians

02:23:18.700 --> 02:23:21.060
into the fold or all Gentiles

02:23:21.060 --> 02:23:22.560
of the fold not everyone I mean there's

02:23:22.560 --> 02:23:24.440
pagans out there in the world but it was a

02:23:24.440 --> 02:23:26.740
is a movement right across the world

02:23:26.740 --> 02:23:28.020
throughout time

02:23:28.540 --> 02:23:29.940
and and there was always that

02:23:30.400 --> 02:23:32.060
the belief in the apocalyptic

02:23:32.660 --> 02:23:33.440
view or

02:23:34.360 --> 02:23:36.280
the in times view I would

02:23:36.280 --> 02:23:38.500
better say is that

02:23:39.780 --> 02:23:40.300
as

02:23:40.300 --> 02:23:42.600
you know we are kind of in the trip we were

02:23:42.600 --> 02:23:44.740
we're in the tribulation period

02:23:44.740 --> 02:23:46.140
throughout history

02:23:46.760 --> 02:23:47.360
and

02:23:47.360 --> 02:23:50.500
Christ was going to reconquer

02:23:50.500 --> 02:23:52.140
the world through his church

02:23:52.600 --> 02:23:53.680
you know bringing

02:23:54.720 --> 02:23:56.200
bringing all nations

02:23:56.480 --> 02:23:58.620
into the fold nations that

02:23:58.620 --> 02:24:00.780
rejected Christ going back to Babylon

02:24:00.780 --> 02:24:02.840
that they were going to be brought back

02:24:02.840 --> 02:24:04.820
in the fold back and back in the church

02:24:04.820 --> 02:24:06.780
to be part of God

02:24:07.460 --> 02:24:08.340
and that

02:24:08.340 --> 02:24:09.160
you know

02:24:10.000 --> 02:24:12.220
we have no idea down the future but

02:24:12.220 --> 02:24:13.940
we know at one day

02:24:13.940 --> 02:24:15.900
that Christ will return

02:24:15.900 --> 02:24:18.220
and that will be the

02:24:18.220 --> 02:24:20.160
second coming and that

02:24:20.160 --> 02:24:21.800
will be judgment and

02:24:21.800 --> 02:24:24.080
that that was the that was the view

02:24:24.080 --> 02:24:25.780
that was the you know the original

02:24:25.780 --> 02:24:27.620
old pre-millennial view

02:24:28.080 --> 02:24:30.040
of things and then the new pre-millennial

02:24:30.040 --> 02:24:31.820
view you know you get all these

02:24:31.820 --> 02:24:34.040
dispositions you get into a thousand year rapture

02:24:34.040 --> 02:24:35.720
you get into what's called

02:24:36.680 --> 02:24:37.880
pre-tribulation

02:24:39.600 --> 02:24:40.520
but those

02:24:40.520 --> 02:24:42.460
those things we don't have to go into

02:24:42.460 --> 02:24:44.480
I want to kind of stay on track with

02:24:44.480 --> 02:24:46.020
your question so

02:24:46.020 --> 02:24:48.460
in the 1800s this come the new

02:24:48.460 --> 02:24:50.060
dispensational movement comes out

02:24:50.060 --> 02:24:52.520
they're looking at things you know

02:24:52.520 --> 02:24:54.460
okay is the Jews have their

02:24:54.460 --> 02:24:55.260
own covenant

02:24:55.860 --> 02:24:58.360
we need to see a temple on

02:24:58.360 --> 02:25:00.360
earth therefore

02:25:00.360 --> 02:25:02.140
that informs us that

02:25:02.140 --> 02:25:04.500
the Jews must return to their nation

02:25:04.500 --> 02:25:06.360
for Christ to come back

02:25:06.960 --> 02:25:08.640
and that they must have

02:25:08.640 --> 02:25:10.500
a temple and all these

02:25:10.500 --> 02:25:12.160
things have to go in place

02:25:12.160 --> 02:25:14.340
before the return

02:25:14.340 --> 02:25:16.320
of Jesus which would be the hidden return

02:25:16.320 --> 02:25:18.420
of Jesus because he you know he doesn't actually

02:25:18.420 --> 02:25:20.220
come down touch on earth

02:25:20.220 --> 02:25:22.320
in their views that he's going rapturous

02:25:22.320 --> 02:25:24.380
in the sky the church is going to be

02:25:24.380 --> 02:25:26.140
called up sin

02:25:26.140 --> 02:25:28.340
and all that stuff is still going to be down here

02:25:28.340 --> 02:25:30.540
on earth there's going to be at that

02:25:30.540 --> 02:25:32.100
point the a thousand year

02:25:32.640 --> 02:25:34.100
rule with Jesus ruling

02:25:34.100 --> 02:25:36.300
from the new temple in

02:25:36.300 --> 02:25:38.060
Jerusalem for a thousand years

02:25:38.900 --> 02:25:39.920
culminating in the

02:25:39.920 --> 02:25:41.580
end with the

02:25:42.200 --> 02:25:43.440
battle of Armageddon

02:25:43.440 --> 02:25:45.260
and the overthrow of Satan

02:25:45.260 --> 02:25:47.960
and that the Jews in this period

02:25:47.960 --> 02:25:49.320
will come to

02:25:49.320 --> 02:25:51.760
accept Christ you know in that period

02:25:51.760 --> 02:25:54.100
they will come to recognize him so it's like a second

02:25:54.100 --> 02:25:56.000
salvation you know for the Jews

02:25:56.000 --> 02:25:58.020
in their theology

02:25:58.020 --> 02:25:59.260
what meanwhile

02:25:59.260 --> 02:26:00.900
in Judaism

02:26:01.940 --> 02:26:04.180
they were they rejected

02:26:04.180 --> 02:26:06.340
Christ the Jew

02:26:07.440 --> 02:26:08.120
this

02:26:08.120 --> 02:26:10.160
Christ who died for their sins

02:26:10.160 --> 02:26:12.160
on the cross they rejected

02:26:12.160 --> 02:26:14.220
him or those that reject him because

02:26:14.220 --> 02:26:16.300
not remember not all Jews rejected him

02:26:16.300 --> 02:26:18.380
many came became Christian too

02:26:18.380 --> 02:26:20.100
and that's why in

02:26:20.100 --> 02:26:21.120
70 AD when

02:26:21.880 --> 02:26:24.280
Israel and the temple were torn

02:26:24.280 --> 02:26:26.200
down and the Jews

02:26:26.200 --> 02:26:28.060
in Jerusalem were slaughtered by the

02:26:28.060 --> 02:26:30.120
Romans that's why many

02:26:30.120 --> 02:26:31.940
Jews still surviving because they

02:26:31.940 --> 02:26:33.760
heated the prophetic warning

02:26:33.760 --> 02:26:35.940
and left before the

02:26:35.940 --> 02:26:37.860
Romans came in and destroyed the

02:26:37.860 --> 02:26:39.660
temple without the temple

02:26:39.660 --> 02:26:41.600
Judaism changed

02:26:41.600 --> 02:26:43.120
what the people

02:26:43.940 --> 02:26:45.720
that were practicing

02:26:45.720 --> 02:26:47.800
Judaism and the

02:26:47.800 --> 02:26:47.920
the

02:26:50.280 --> 02:26:51.100
Sadducees

02:26:51.100 --> 02:26:53.500
the Pharisees

02:26:53.500 --> 02:26:55.980
they were slaughtered they were gone

02:26:55.980 --> 02:26:57.060
and

02:26:57.690 --> 02:26:59.920
that now they have no they don't have a priest

02:26:59.920 --> 02:27:01.960
class to make sacrifices

02:27:01.960 --> 02:27:03.940
and they don't have a temple to make sacrifices

02:27:03.940 --> 02:27:06.160
their whole religion changed after that

02:27:06.160 --> 02:27:08.080
you know and the progress

02:27:08.080 --> 02:27:09.900
of change time but they

02:27:09.900 --> 02:27:10.860
but they still believe

02:27:10.860 --> 02:27:13.880
the coming of their Messiah

02:27:13.880 --> 02:27:14.540
right

02:27:15.480 --> 02:27:17.640
and in their view and this is

02:27:17.640 --> 02:27:19.100
something that was unseen

02:27:19.760 --> 02:27:21.800
and this is kind of goes back to even

02:27:21.800 --> 02:27:23.980
the Old Testament they were looking for

02:27:23.980 --> 02:27:25.780
a warrior and that's why many people

02:27:25.780 --> 02:27:28.240
didn't recognize Jesus as the Messiah

02:27:29.040 --> 02:27:30.480
is because they were looking

02:27:30.480 --> 02:27:31.940
for someone that was going to come

02:27:31.940 --> 02:27:33.940
and conquer all the other nations

02:27:33.940 --> 02:27:36.200
all their enemies and rule

02:27:36.200 --> 02:27:37.940
the world and

02:27:37.940 --> 02:27:39.680
and rule from

02:27:40.140 --> 02:27:41.940
the holy nation of Israel

02:27:41.940 --> 02:27:43.760
and they believe because

02:27:43.760 --> 02:27:46.020
the promises because of their

02:27:46.020 --> 02:27:48.060
what what developed

02:27:48.060 --> 02:27:50.240
in their mind that they were

02:27:50.240 --> 02:27:52.100
the chosen people you know

02:27:52.100 --> 02:27:54.040
through Abraham the chosen seed

02:27:54.040 --> 02:27:55.340
the chosen nation

02:27:55.340 --> 02:27:56.600
which is

02:27:57.340 --> 02:27:57.920
you know

02:27:59.680 --> 02:28:00.880
not completely

02:28:00.880 --> 02:28:02.920
incorrect but I think it grew

02:28:02.920 --> 02:28:04.560
into a you know

02:28:04.560 --> 02:28:06.900
a very exclusive

02:28:06.900 --> 02:28:09.040
meaning it was never meant to be exclusive

02:28:09.040 --> 02:28:11.280
God chose a portion of

02:28:11.280 --> 02:28:13.340
people to be his people after

02:28:13.340 --> 02:28:14.940
the fall Babylon but

02:28:14.940 --> 02:28:17.180
it was not just to an exclusion

02:28:17.180 --> 02:28:19.300
of a bloodline and that but that's

02:28:19.300 --> 02:28:21.140
where Jews believe that they are the

02:28:21.140 --> 02:28:23.160
bloodline of the chosen people they have

02:28:23.160 --> 02:28:24.680
this God kind of spark

02:28:24.680 --> 02:28:27.160
into them that differentiates

02:28:28.220 --> 02:28:28.660
differentiates

02:28:28.980 --> 02:28:30.940
differentiates them from the rest of the world

02:28:30.940 --> 02:28:32.980
and I'm not harking on all Jews

02:28:32.980 --> 02:28:34.560
I mean there's there are Jews that

02:28:34.560 --> 02:28:36.820
you know I'm friends with I don't you know that I don't say this

02:28:36.820 --> 02:28:39.000
I hate or anything like that this is just an observation

02:28:39.000 --> 02:28:40.540
and literal history

02:28:41.500 --> 02:28:42.640
of you know

02:28:43.160 --> 02:28:45.000
their beliefs and some

02:28:45.000 --> 02:28:47.040
people might disagree to a certain point but

02:28:47.040 --> 02:28:48.860
I mean it's in their own writings

02:28:49.500 --> 02:28:51.200
this is not something that's

02:28:51.200 --> 02:28:53.300
new I'm not like you know I'm not

02:28:53.300 --> 02:28:54.820
giving you any original

02:28:54.820 --> 02:28:56.900
thought here this is just stuff

02:28:56.900 --> 02:28:59.060
right well let me ask this is the

02:28:59.060 --> 02:29:00.940
Christian and Jewish

02:29:01.840 --> 02:29:02.960
Zionist views

02:29:02.960 --> 02:29:05.080
are they converging now

02:29:05.080 --> 02:29:07.000
where they both feel that

02:29:07.000 --> 02:29:08.860
their end time like do they truly

02:29:08.860 --> 02:29:11.120
believe that the end

02:29:11.120 --> 02:29:13.040
time is here I mean when you see

02:29:13.040 --> 02:29:15.140
the world and the great reset and everything

02:29:15.140 --> 02:29:17.400
and I mean it's easy for a lot of people to

02:29:17.400 --> 02:29:18.700
think the end times are exactly

02:29:18.700 --> 02:29:21.040
so my my thing is this is almost

02:29:21.040 --> 02:29:22.260
like the Christians version

02:29:22.260 --> 02:29:24.680
and maybe the Jews before we're out of sync

02:29:24.680 --> 02:29:26.900
and the Jews when they had their timetables

02:29:26.900 --> 02:29:29.120
different Christians but now it's like

02:29:29.120 --> 02:29:30.360
they're coming together

02:29:30.360 --> 02:29:32.760
and you know what you know how dangerous it is

02:29:32.760 --> 02:29:34.140
when someone honestly believes

02:29:34.700 --> 02:29:36.640
that the end time is here you know

02:29:36.640 --> 02:29:38.360
they're willing to do anything because

02:29:38.360 --> 02:29:40.760
that doesn't matter I mean the IRS isn't going to

02:29:40.760 --> 02:29:42.500
give them an audit if the end times are here

02:29:42.500 --> 02:29:43.920
tomorrow you know I'm saying so

02:29:44.500 --> 02:29:46.680
desperate people do desperate things I'm just trying

02:29:46.680 --> 02:29:48.740
to understand the mindset of the people

02:29:48.740 --> 02:29:50.620
in government right now is that where

02:29:50.620 --> 02:29:52.840
their mind is yeah you know

02:29:53.580 --> 02:29:54.560
going back to

02:29:54.560 --> 02:29:55.720
Theodore Herzl

02:29:56.440 --> 02:29:58.580
you know he was he was the first

02:29:59.340 --> 02:30:00.540
person that organized

02:30:01.360 --> 02:30:03.000
Zionist Jewish Zionist

02:30:03.000 --> 02:30:04.820
thoughts right that became

02:30:04.820 --> 02:30:06.860
what we call today Jewish Zionism

02:30:06.860 --> 02:30:08.760
or Zionism in general

02:30:08.760 --> 02:30:10.840
as a became a political movement he

02:30:10.840 --> 02:30:12.500
was he himself was not a religious

02:30:12.500 --> 02:30:13.100
person

02:30:14.080 --> 02:30:14.720
but

02:30:14.720 --> 02:30:16.800
he you know he what

02:30:16.800 --> 02:30:19.280
they started teaching

02:30:19.280 --> 02:30:20.960
and bringing it to the

02:30:20.960 --> 02:30:23.180
thought pattern of Jews was that

02:30:23.180 --> 02:30:25.060
let's we don't need to wait

02:30:25.060 --> 02:30:25.520
for

02:30:25.520 --> 02:30:28.980
the Messiah to come we're going to make

02:30:28.980 --> 02:30:31.240
things happen right and so

02:30:31.240 --> 02:30:33.100
they you know through the

02:30:33.100 --> 02:30:34.720
because of the things that were happening

02:30:34.720 --> 02:30:35.620
throughout Europe

02:30:37.260 --> 02:30:38.540
in Russia

02:30:38.540 --> 02:30:40.880
in different places the persecution

02:30:40.880 --> 02:30:42.720
and you know back and forth

02:30:42.720 --> 02:30:43.340
you know

02:30:44.620 --> 02:30:46.720
things that were going on in Europe they wanted

02:30:46.720 --> 02:30:48.900
a homeland and so this

02:30:48.900 --> 02:30:50.200
thus became the

02:30:50.980 --> 02:30:52.920
big main thing now Jews at

02:30:52.920 --> 02:30:55.000
the time most Jews did not

02:30:56.380 --> 02:30:56.940
accept

02:30:56.940 --> 02:30:59.160
that they thought that was a dangerous attitude to try to

02:30:59.160 --> 02:31:00.380
seek their own homeland but

02:31:00.380 --> 02:31:02.720
in time it became very popular

02:31:02.720 --> 02:31:04.040
right and then

02:31:04.720 --> 02:31:05.420
this is where

02:31:06.500 --> 02:31:09.060
the political Zionism and also

02:31:09.060 --> 02:31:10.500
the Jew the Jew

02:31:10.680 --> 02:31:12.700
modern Jewish or Zionist Jewish

02:31:12.700 --> 02:31:13.400
thought

02:31:14.700 --> 02:31:17.020
started to real to

02:31:17.020 --> 02:31:18.140
align with

02:31:19.040 --> 02:31:20.320
dispassational Christians

02:31:20.980 --> 02:31:23.280
which had their own theology

02:31:23.280 --> 02:31:24.800
of in times and so these

02:31:24.800 --> 02:31:26.760
two groups started to

02:31:27.700 --> 02:31:28.580
overlap

02:31:28.580 --> 02:31:30.220
have overlapping agendas

02:31:31.060 --> 02:31:32.680
the Jews for

02:31:32.680 --> 02:31:34.980
different reasons but

02:31:34.980 --> 02:31:37.100
and the Christians for in time theology

02:31:37.100 --> 02:31:38.600
and eschatology

02:31:38.600 --> 02:31:41.000
and so that became

02:31:41.000 --> 02:31:42.860
you know a reason why they

02:31:42.860 --> 02:31:44.500
kind of converge and the Jews

02:31:44.860 --> 02:31:46.560
and whether they were

02:31:47.100 --> 02:31:48.860
religious or whether they were

02:31:48.860 --> 02:31:49.700
secular

02:31:50.720 --> 02:31:53.320
because there was Zionist

02:31:53.320 --> 02:31:55.140
thoughts and they had goals

02:31:55.140 --> 02:31:56.820
to achieve they

02:31:56.820 --> 02:31:58.780
used you know

02:31:58.780 --> 02:32:00.660
and promoted Christian

02:32:00.660 --> 02:32:02.960
Zionism or dispassational thoughts

02:32:03.760 --> 02:32:05.200
or appealed

02:32:05.200 --> 02:32:06.800
to them for support

02:32:06.800 --> 02:32:08.900
and this is where you get like the Balfour

02:32:08.900 --> 02:32:09.680
declaration

02:32:10.500 --> 02:32:12.780
that was I believe

02:32:12.780 --> 02:32:14.740
actually sent to Lord Rothschild

02:32:14.740 --> 02:32:16.500
is you know a guarantee

02:32:17.200 --> 02:32:18.520
and these are where

02:32:18.980 --> 02:32:20.700
after the World War I

02:32:20.700 --> 02:32:22.240
you know you have the

02:32:22.960 --> 02:32:24.040
guarantees to

02:32:25.600 --> 02:32:26.840
during that period

02:32:26.840 --> 02:32:27.940
that were made

02:32:27.940 --> 02:32:31.020
to the Zionist Jews

02:32:31.020 --> 02:32:32.360
and

02:32:32.360 --> 02:32:33.260
you know about

02:32:33.260 --> 02:32:35.420
returning a homeland to them

02:32:36.380 --> 02:32:37.040
and

02:32:38.140 --> 02:32:40.360
returning them to their homeland

02:32:40.360 --> 02:32:42.280
the homeland that they

02:32:42.280 --> 02:32:43.520
desired you know which

02:32:43.520 --> 02:32:45.320
that is a rabbit trail

02:32:46.090 --> 02:32:48.060
you know was it really

02:32:48.060 --> 02:32:49.720
your homeland you know after

02:32:49.720 --> 02:32:51.560
2000 years of not being there

02:32:51.560 --> 02:32:53.220
or even in my question

02:32:53.220 --> 02:32:55.540
how many Jews do we really know

02:32:56.170 --> 02:32:57.920
are you know really from

02:32:57.920 --> 02:32:59.360
that region and then

02:32:59.360 --> 02:33:00.520
that just become

02:33:01.280 --> 02:33:02.340
converts to Judaism

02:33:02.340 --> 02:33:04.140
along the way in Europe

02:33:04.140 --> 02:33:05.660
without that

02:33:06.740 --> 02:33:09.040
yes there is an overlap here

02:33:09.040 --> 02:33:10.560
and this is where

02:33:11.360 --> 02:33:12.520
they draw the strength

02:33:12.520 --> 02:33:14.120
if it was just them on their own

02:33:14.120 --> 02:33:17.060
they wouldn't have this force

02:33:18.100 --> 02:33:19.280
and the support

02:33:19.280 --> 02:33:21.780
in the world for what they're doing today

02:33:21.780 --> 02:33:23.000
or throughout history

02:33:23.000 --> 02:33:24.580
or even to form their own government

02:33:25.160 --> 02:33:27.180
is America that came to the rescue

02:33:28.860 --> 02:33:29.280
military

02:33:29.700 --> 02:33:30.880
political power

02:33:30.880 --> 02:33:32.880
many times

02:33:32.880 --> 02:33:34.480
to help them

02:33:34.860 --> 02:33:35.580
fend off

02:33:35.580 --> 02:33:36.920
they fought

02:33:38.900 --> 02:33:40.200
when they formed the nation

02:33:40.200 --> 02:33:43.000
of course they entered them into

02:33:43.000 --> 02:33:44.380
conflict with their neighbors

02:33:45.180 --> 02:33:45.760
and

02:33:45.760 --> 02:33:48.160
but it was America that

02:33:48.860 --> 02:33:50.120
really armed them

02:33:51.060 --> 02:33:53.020
and gave them

02:33:53.020 --> 02:33:54.760
the capabilities and the support

02:33:54.760 --> 02:33:56.540
over the years to maintain

02:33:56.540 --> 02:33:58.180
what they are now

02:33:58.180 --> 02:33:58.740
which is a

02:33:58.740 --> 02:34:02.260
a Jewish theocracy

02:34:02.260 --> 02:34:04.700
not really a democracy

02:34:04.700 --> 02:34:06.120
maybe on a good day but

02:34:07.340 --> 02:34:08.760
and they have

02:34:08.760 --> 02:34:10.160
really formed

02:34:10.160 --> 02:34:13.160
their views have really formed

02:34:13.160 --> 02:34:14.980
to more of an apocalyptic

02:34:14.980 --> 02:34:16.480
view of things where

02:34:16.480 --> 02:34:17.800
they believe now

02:34:17.800 --> 02:34:20.360
to get their beside back that they have to

02:34:20.360 --> 02:34:22.960
have a real serious

02:34:22.960 --> 02:34:24.320
war

02:34:24.320 --> 02:34:26.560
that a conflict

02:34:26.560 --> 02:34:28.360
where the very

02:34:28.360 --> 02:34:28.900
survival

02:34:29.840 --> 02:34:31.480
of their nation

02:34:32.550 --> 02:34:34.320
is going to usher in

02:34:34.320 --> 02:34:35.520
their Messiah

02:34:36.610 --> 02:34:38.300
and that's something

02:34:38.550 --> 02:34:40.240
that some of these

02:34:40.960 --> 02:34:42.100
you know

02:34:42.100 --> 02:34:43.700
a lot of these Jews

02:34:43.700 --> 02:34:46.140
I would say is probably the majority now

02:34:46.140 --> 02:34:47.460
that believe us

02:34:47.460 --> 02:34:48.640
that are religious

02:34:48.640 --> 02:34:50.780
that have a similar

02:34:50.780 --> 02:34:51.860
thoughts on this

02:34:52.640 --> 02:34:54.480
there are and the secular ones

02:34:54.480 --> 02:34:56.200
that aren't really religious

02:34:56.200 --> 02:34:58.200
they just have political ends

02:34:58.200 --> 02:35:00.020
they want to dominate the Middle East

02:35:00.640 --> 02:35:02.560
and they're just using it

02:35:02.560 --> 02:35:03.920
to call the religious

02:35:04.380 --> 02:35:06.380
aspect to kind of give their self

02:35:06.380 --> 02:35:08.280
validation in the eyes

02:35:08.280 --> 02:35:09.220
of the Christian world

02:35:10.460 --> 02:35:12.460
of America really because America

02:35:12.460 --> 02:35:14.020
is just mainly where this

02:35:14.460 --> 02:35:15.440
dispensational belief is

02:35:15.440 --> 02:35:17.260
that's why you have such strong support

02:35:17.260 --> 02:35:19.340
in America but if you go outside America

02:35:19.340 --> 02:35:21.340
not a lot of support

02:35:21.340 --> 02:35:22.660
for Israel

02:35:23.380 --> 02:35:25.160
you know by the general

02:35:26.020 --> 02:35:26.580
publics

02:35:27.300 --> 02:35:28.980
it's interesting you were talking about

02:35:28.980 --> 02:35:30.960
with the Israeli

02:35:32.560 --> 02:35:33.120
sex

02:35:33.120 --> 02:35:34.900
I was mentioning this before you got on the phone

02:35:35.440 --> 02:35:36.200
with Ernie

02:35:36.200 --> 02:35:39.180
I had learned about the three main demographics

02:35:39.180 --> 02:35:41.240
there right and these are the

02:35:41.240 --> 02:35:42.920
terms apparently you might be familiar

02:35:42.920 --> 02:35:45.040
one is called one group

02:35:45.040 --> 02:35:46.200
of Jews who live in it

02:35:46.200 --> 02:35:47.700
these are the Jews that live in Israel

02:35:47.700 --> 02:35:50.300
these don't include Muslims or non-Jews

02:35:50.300 --> 02:35:52.180
who live in Israel but the one group

02:35:52.180 --> 02:35:53.760
which makes up 50%

02:35:53.760 --> 02:35:56.320
of the electorate are called the Holoni

02:35:56.710 --> 02:35:58.520
Holoni maybe you guys already know this

02:35:58.520 --> 02:36:00.880
but the Holoni and they are the secular

02:36:00.880 --> 02:36:02.920
they're like the secular Jews

02:36:02.920 --> 02:36:05.260
so they're making up like 50-51%

02:36:05.260 --> 02:36:06.960
almost like the equivalent

02:36:06.960 --> 02:36:08.280
of modern Democrats

02:36:09.680 --> 02:36:11.140
they're the progressives

02:36:11.140 --> 02:36:12.460
they're not really religious

02:36:12.460 --> 02:36:15.340
they see a lot of problems in their past

02:36:15.340 --> 02:36:16.420
they don't like Netanyahu

02:36:16.420 --> 02:36:17.780
they're the ones that want to throw them out

02:36:17.780 --> 02:36:20.520
and they're the ones that were losing power to

02:36:21.140 --> 02:36:22.020
a nationalist

02:36:22.020 --> 02:36:23.940
a surge

02:36:23.940 --> 02:36:26.380
which is Benjamin Netanyahu

02:36:26.380 --> 02:36:27.980
and those are the religious Zionists

02:36:27.980 --> 02:36:29.680
and they're making up about a third

02:36:29.680 --> 02:36:32.440
which sounds very similar to the Christian

02:36:32.440 --> 02:36:34.080
Zionists the Mike Huckabees

02:36:34.080 --> 02:36:36.400
so it's almost like there's a mirror image in each

02:36:36.400 --> 02:36:37.840
now what's unique though

02:36:37.840 --> 02:36:38.960
is there's a third group

02:36:39.750 --> 02:36:41.020
in Israel

02:36:41.020 --> 02:36:42.780
which again I was talking to Ernie

02:36:42.780 --> 02:36:44.140
how so many countries are having

02:36:44.140 --> 02:36:46.320
three now political parties

02:36:46.320 --> 02:36:47.860
three movements not just two

02:36:47.860 --> 02:36:50.680
but the third is known as the Haridim

02:36:50.680 --> 02:36:51.740
or Haridim

02:36:51.740 --> 02:36:55.360
and they of course

02:36:55.360 --> 02:36:57.400
they make up another third

02:36:57.400 --> 02:36:58.460
roughly

02:36:58.460 --> 02:36:59.840
third or quarter

02:36:59.840 --> 02:37:02.900
and they are the ultra orthodox

02:37:02.900 --> 02:37:04.820
the people you see wearing black

02:37:04.820 --> 02:37:06.360
and they have the

02:37:06.360 --> 02:37:08.100
braided hair and such

02:37:08.700 --> 02:37:10.260
and there I guess you could

02:37:10.260 --> 02:37:12.160
the equivalent again I'm trying to

02:37:12.160 --> 02:37:14.800
sound too normy are like the Amish here

02:37:14.800 --> 02:37:16.640
and the reason is because

02:37:16.640 --> 02:37:18.000
they don't want to be in the military

02:37:18.620 --> 02:37:20.860
so they usually are kept out of the military

02:37:20.860 --> 02:37:22.640
which is normally mandatory over there

02:37:24.040 --> 02:37:24.960
but there's

02:37:24.960 --> 02:37:27.000
fights about whether they should be drafted

02:37:27.000 --> 02:37:28.740
now and they're having a big

02:37:28.740 --> 02:37:30.760
fight just like the Amish are getting

02:37:30.760 --> 02:37:32.640
attacked you know to be paying

02:37:32.640 --> 02:37:34.640
taxes and be regulated for their

02:37:34.640 --> 02:37:35.740
cattle and all of that

02:37:36.200 --> 02:37:38.520
but also they don't because they're not in the

02:37:38.520 --> 02:37:39.640
military they also get

02:37:39.640 --> 02:37:41.820
they don't get a lot of the services they just

02:37:41.820 --> 02:37:44.340
basically just want to be left alone in a sense

02:37:44.840 --> 02:37:46.700
but they're a voting

02:37:46.700 --> 02:37:48.800
block that adds to it

02:37:48.800 --> 02:37:50.140
so you have these three

02:37:50.140 --> 02:37:51.980
and they seem always at odds

02:37:52.480 --> 02:37:54.500
and they get more at odds just like our

02:37:54.500 --> 02:37:56.560
country but the one thing they have in common

02:37:56.560 --> 02:37:58.480
at the end of the day is that they're all

02:37:58.480 --> 02:38:00.000
Jewish and if they do get attacked

02:38:00.000 --> 02:38:01.460
all of a sudden they

02:38:01.460 --> 02:38:03.500
they kind of recoil back

02:38:03.500 --> 02:38:06.160
and block elbows which I don't blame them

02:38:06.160 --> 02:38:08.040
and that's like one person

02:38:08.040 --> 02:38:09.440
mentioned it's like the beating heart

02:38:09.970 --> 02:38:11.520
of Israel that there are always

02:38:11.520 --> 02:38:13.780
these three groups are always about

02:38:13.780 --> 02:38:15.320
war is health in the state

02:38:16.000 --> 02:38:17.440
absolutely thank you Ernie

02:38:17.440 --> 02:38:19.920
so with that said I want to ask the question

02:38:19.920 --> 02:38:22.200
about this idea

02:38:22.200 --> 02:38:23.040
that Israel

02:38:23.770 --> 02:38:26.100
is Genesis 12

02:38:26.100 --> 02:38:27.260
right this is where Tucker

02:38:27.260 --> 02:38:29.240
and Cruz

02:38:29.240 --> 02:38:31.160
and Huckabee they keep going around

02:38:31.160 --> 02:38:32.720
and are exposing us to a lot of

02:38:33.260 --> 02:38:34.860
more secular people like myself

02:38:34.860 --> 02:38:36.540
is the idea that

02:38:36.540 --> 02:38:39.140
the land of Israel or God

02:38:39.140 --> 02:38:40.840
says that those who

02:38:40.840 --> 02:38:42.760
defend or support Israel

02:38:42.760 --> 02:38:45.320
and definitely you can correct me what it actually

02:38:45.320 --> 02:38:47.140
says but that if you support

02:38:47.140 --> 02:38:49.400
Israel then you will be blessed this sort of thing

02:38:49.400 --> 02:38:51.400
and so the question that of course Tucker

02:38:51.400 --> 02:38:52.700
was trying to bring up and others

02:38:52.700 --> 02:38:55.000
is what do we mean like Ernie says to find

02:38:55.000 --> 02:38:56.460
the terms what do we mean

02:38:56.460 --> 02:38:58.280
by Israel right is that Israel

02:38:58.280 --> 02:39:00.540
in the Bible is that Israel

02:39:00.540 --> 02:39:02.500
by blood is Israel by

02:39:02.500 --> 02:39:04.440
by just you know culture

02:39:04.740 --> 02:39:06.760
is that Israel by land

02:39:06.760 --> 02:39:08.760
you know what are we talking about here

02:39:08.760 --> 02:39:10.600
and so you know

02:39:10.600 --> 02:39:12.500
I'd like you to explain what the

02:39:12.500 --> 02:39:14.880
Jews view of that is

02:39:14.880 --> 02:39:16.220
of what Israel is that just

02:39:16.220 --> 02:39:18.480
is it what it says in Genesis 12

02:39:18.480 --> 02:39:19.780
I think it goes from the Euphrates

02:39:19.780 --> 02:39:22.420
to the Nile or something it actually

02:39:22.420 --> 02:39:24.660
like lands out it states what it should be

02:39:24.660 --> 02:39:26.260
and that I think is what

02:39:26.260 --> 02:39:28.680
their modus operandi seems to be

02:39:28.680 --> 02:39:30.400
but on the other hand the

02:39:30.400 --> 02:39:32.440
Christian Zionists were at least

02:39:32.440 --> 02:39:34.480
the Christian view is that

02:39:34.480 --> 02:39:36.320
and again I'm not the authority

02:39:36.320 --> 02:39:38.520
of nothing else I'm just asking your thoughts on this

02:39:38.520 --> 02:39:39.940
is that Israel

02:39:39.940 --> 02:39:42.380
is not a place anymore

02:39:42.380 --> 02:39:44.320
the new Israel is

02:39:44.320 --> 02:39:46.460
Jesus that's what Jesus is he's the new

02:39:46.460 --> 02:39:48.180
Israel so finding Christ

02:39:48.180 --> 02:39:50.260
is the equivalent of

02:39:50.260 --> 02:39:51.940
Israel you see so if you

02:39:51.940 --> 02:39:54.200
follow Christ then you will find God

02:39:54.200 --> 02:39:55.680
whereas with the Jews that's the

02:39:56.260 --> 02:39:58.160
it's Israel itself you know

02:39:58.160 --> 02:39:59.620
through the land or the blood

02:40:00.000 --> 02:40:02.320
so if that's true and if there's

02:40:02.320 --> 02:40:04.220
if they are different how we look at Israel

02:40:04.220 --> 02:40:06.320
I guess my question is unless I get

02:40:06.320 --> 02:40:07.600
this wrong how are

02:40:08.480 --> 02:40:09.600
Christian Zionists

02:40:10.440 --> 02:40:12.320
supporting this whole war

02:40:12.320 --> 02:40:14.060
for Israel

02:40:14.060 --> 02:40:15.900
when at the end of the day

02:40:15.900 --> 02:40:18.060
you know Genesis 12 is not saying that

02:40:18.060 --> 02:40:19.640
you have to praise Israel

02:40:19.640 --> 02:40:22.040
as a government or a piece of

02:40:22.040 --> 02:40:23.320
dirt over in that place

02:40:23.880 --> 02:40:26.040
it's the new it's you know Christ is the

02:40:26.040 --> 02:40:27.940
new Israel or is that what makes

02:40:27.940 --> 02:40:30.060
a Zionist Christian different

02:40:30.060 --> 02:40:31.620
is that Zionist Christians

02:40:31.620 --> 02:40:33.980
don't believe that Jesus is the

02:40:33.980 --> 02:40:36.160
new Israel instead they're taking it

02:40:36.160 --> 02:40:37.960
literal like you were saying earlier

02:40:37.960 --> 02:40:39.560
I think and literally

02:40:39.560 --> 02:40:41.620
it says Israel so they're just

02:40:41.620 --> 02:40:43.520
looking at the flag you know

02:40:43.960 --> 02:40:45.340
there's the flag is that

02:40:45.340 --> 02:40:46.280
is that a fair

02:40:46.280 --> 02:40:47.900
explanation of what's happening

02:40:49.700 --> 02:40:50.820
yeah so

02:40:51.900 --> 02:40:53.340
absolutely so well

02:40:53.340 --> 02:40:53.960
let me

02:40:53.960 --> 02:40:56.720
let me get into that so

02:40:57.720 --> 02:40:58.820
where should I start

02:40:59.340 --> 02:41:01.160
I would say this that

02:41:02.260 --> 02:41:03.260
let's start with

02:41:03.260 --> 02:41:05.260
the Christian part we'll get to the Jewish

02:41:05.260 --> 02:41:06.620
part but the

02:41:06.620 --> 02:41:09.040
Old Testament Biblical

02:41:09.040 --> 02:41:10.600
Biblical worldview

02:41:11.080 --> 02:41:13.200
you know and we got we also got

02:41:13.200 --> 02:41:15.200
know and this is where I've

02:41:15.200 --> 02:41:16.500
been kind of growing in my

02:41:17.140 --> 02:41:19.040
studies and just understanding

02:41:19.040 --> 02:41:21.400
is that today we look at the Bible

02:41:21.400 --> 02:41:23.140
with modernized modern views

02:41:23.140 --> 02:41:25.360
and shaped by

02:41:25.360 --> 02:41:27.360
you know relatively modern history

02:41:28.160 --> 02:41:29.340
but if you

02:41:29.340 --> 02:41:30.940
get into the mind of a

02:41:30.940 --> 02:41:33.020
second temple period Jew

02:41:34.360 --> 02:41:35.260
you know

02:41:35.260 --> 02:41:36.460
even predated Christ

02:41:37.200 --> 02:41:38.800
they would have a very different

02:41:39.560 --> 02:41:40.920
outlook on

02:41:40.920 --> 02:41:43.060
a lot of the scripture that we have

02:41:43.060 --> 02:41:44.960
today and that goes for even like

02:41:44.960 --> 02:41:46.560
modern Jews today right

02:41:47.500 --> 02:41:48.460
you know we all

02:41:48.460 --> 02:41:50.980
we're kind of looking through things with our

02:41:51.800 --> 02:41:52.920
you know

02:41:52.920 --> 02:41:54.840
different color you know glass

02:41:54.840 --> 02:41:56.880
darkly you know spectacles

02:41:56.880 --> 02:41:58.720
you know we're seeing things from our own

02:41:58.720 --> 02:42:00.560
perspective of trying to read things into

02:42:00.560 --> 02:42:02.380
or trying to understand things

02:42:02.380 --> 02:42:05.000
but we don't have the benefit of

02:42:05.000 --> 02:42:06.760
living at that time and understanding

02:42:06.760 --> 02:42:08.920
having an understanding of

02:42:08.920 --> 02:42:10.400
of what was going on

02:42:10.400 --> 02:42:12.240
what the world was just

02:42:12.770 --> 02:42:14.600
that you lived in was like right

02:42:14.600 --> 02:42:15.740
so

02:42:16.620 --> 02:42:17.740
in the

02:42:17.740 --> 02:42:20.080
when you talked about the promise

02:42:20.080 --> 02:42:21.440
a land right

02:42:22.280 --> 02:42:24.600
Genesis 12 and we're talking about

02:42:24.600 --> 02:42:25.240
the Abraham

02:42:26.690 --> 02:42:27.180
had a

02:42:27.180 --> 02:42:30.280
I'm sorry I can't even promise to

02:42:30.280 --> 02:42:32.160
Abraham right when he you know

02:42:32.160 --> 02:42:34.220
when he was promised that through his seed

02:42:34.220 --> 02:42:35.860
right so today

02:42:35.860 --> 02:42:37.640
you know we enter a lot of modern

02:42:37.640 --> 02:42:39.760
Christians were you know are taught

02:42:39.760 --> 02:42:41.580
and I was taught at a young age that

02:42:41.580 --> 02:42:42.740
that meant the

02:42:42.740 --> 02:42:45.060
offspring of

02:42:45.590 --> 02:42:47.560
of Abraham which became the

02:42:47.560 --> 02:42:49.040
12 tribes of Israel

02:42:49.040 --> 02:42:51.600
and later known as Israelites

02:42:51.600 --> 02:42:53.460
and later known as Jews

02:42:53.460 --> 02:42:55.440
and now

02:42:55.440 --> 02:42:57.880
we still carry that on well Jews today

02:42:57.880 --> 02:42:59.860
must have descended from Abraham

02:42:59.860 --> 02:43:01.740
and remember there are 12

02:43:01.740 --> 02:43:03.160
12 tribes

02:43:03.160 --> 02:43:05.320
in Israel originally

02:43:06.180 --> 02:43:06.820
but

02:43:06.820 --> 02:43:08.620
this promise

02:43:09.160 --> 02:43:10.680
was not about

02:43:10.680 --> 02:43:13.140
blood you know it was a promise

02:43:13.140 --> 02:43:14.900
that the Savior that the Messiah

02:43:14.900 --> 02:43:15.840
is going to be

02:43:15.840 --> 02:43:18.860
the promised seed right that

02:43:18.860 --> 02:43:21.400
that really is what I was pointing to

02:43:21.400 --> 02:43:23.200
and that was a historical view

02:43:23.200 --> 02:43:24.660
of the church is that

02:43:25.100 --> 02:43:27.080
the promise to Abraham on that

02:43:27.080 --> 02:43:28.700
was not about all his children

02:43:28.700 --> 02:43:31.260
all his bloodline is about the Messiah

02:43:31.260 --> 02:43:32.520
that was yet to come

02:43:33.040 --> 02:43:34.240
would be coming from

02:43:34.240 --> 02:43:36.960
descending from his bloodline

02:43:37.740 --> 02:43:38.980
and that promise

02:43:39.960 --> 02:43:41.940
kept being made over and over

02:43:41.940 --> 02:43:43.200
you know remember David

02:43:43.200 --> 02:43:45.000
King David in the Bible right later

02:43:45.000 --> 02:43:46.740
way later on you know

02:43:47.260 --> 02:43:48.760
same thing you know he was

02:43:48.760 --> 02:43:49.740
promised you know

02:43:49.740 --> 02:43:52.680
that Messiah would come from him

02:43:53.060 --> 02:43:54.920
not that his children would be

02:43:54.920 --> 02:43:56.100
the blessing to the world

02:43:56.100 --> 02:43:57.900
that the Messiah would be

02:43:57.900 --> 02:44:00.120
but this is where things got

02:44:00.120 --> 02:44:02.140
screwed up in the 1800s

02:44:02.140 --> 02:44:03.540
with dispensational beliefs

02:44:03.540 --> 02:44:05.480
and teachings coming from

02:44:05.480 --> 02:44:07.200
the brethren of Plymouth

02:44:07.900 --> 02:44:09.520
John Nelson Darby

02:44:10.280 --> 02:44:11.860
Cyrus Skoll Field

02:44:11.860 --> 02:44:12.880
and the Skoll Field Bible

02:44:13.840 --> 02:44:15.900
the popularized by the Moody

02:44:15.900 --> 02:44:17.820
movement and so on

02:44:17.820 --> 02:44:19.140
so forth through

02:44:19.900 --> 02:44:21.200
evangelicals like Pastor Hage

02:44:21.880 --> 02:44:23.640
and Hal Lindsey

02:44:23.640 --> 02:44:25.960
and this stuff is just

02:44:25.960 --> 02:44:27.240
you know taking on

02:44:27.800 --> 02:44:29.020
a new meaning

02:44:29.020 --> 02:44:31.100
pop Christianity

02:44:31.700 --> 02:44:33.500
pop dispensationalism

02:44:33.500 --> 02:44:35.780
and I say pop because

02:44:35.780 --> 02:44:37.100
you know it's in our media

02:44:37.100 --> 02:44:38.980
now they're making movies and writing

02:44:38.980 --> 02:44:40.600
all sorts of books

02:44:40.600 --> 02:44:43.200
on the end times and stories

02:44:43.200 --> 02:44:44.220
and you know

02:44:44.220 --> 02:44:46.780
what's that movie left behind

02:44:46.780 --> 02:44:48.760
series and stuff it's just

02:44:48.760 --> 02:44:50.800
in our pop culture now

02:44:50.800 --> 02:44:53.280
but this

02:44:53.280 --> 02:44:54.340
this view

02:44:55.400 --> 02:44:56.820
is this new view

02:44:56.820 --> 02:44:58.440
that not again

02:44:58.440 --> 02:45:01.720
only a small minority of 15 to 25%

02:45:01.720 --> 02:45:02.800
Christians I would say

02:45:02.800 --> 02:45:05.020
that you know for the best estimates

02:45:05.020 --> 02:45:05.560
out there

02:45:06.500 --> 02:45:09.120
really adhere to this point of view

02:45:10.140 --> 02:45:11.220
but it's a very

02:45:11.220 --> 02:45:12.880
loud and very

02:45:12.880 --> 02:45:15.080
so that was the question you and I had

02:45:15.080 --> 02:45:16.880
on the phone how did if it's

02:45:16.880 --> 02:45:19.060
15-20% and I'm sure

02:45:19.060 --> 02:45:19.880
it comes down to money

02:45:19.880 --> 02:45:21.760
and we will try to say this

02:45:21.760 --> 02:45:23.660
not using the word a pack too many times

02:45:23.660 --> 02:45:25.440
or whatever but how

02:45:25.440 --> 02:45:27.520
did that 15-20%

02:45:27.520 --> 02:45:29.340
become a seemingly

02:45:29.740 --> 02:45:31.560
seemingly and I think this is a surprise

02:45:31.560 --> 02:45:33.380
a lot of secularists sitting back

02:45:33.380 --> 02:45:35.740
and hearing Mike Huckabee and everyone's talking about

02:45:35.740 --> 02:45:37.800
you know Genesis 12 and whatever

02:45:37.800 --> 02:45:39.780
it's like wait a minute this is our foreign policy

02:45:39.780 --> 02:45:41.660
this isn't about someone's private

02:45:41.660 --> 02:45:43.460
religious book so

02:45:43.460 --> 02:45:45.620
when how long is

02:45:45.620 --> 02:45:47.680
I hate to call it infiltration

02:45:47.680 --> 02:45:49.580
that sounds a little dubious but you could argue

02:45:49.580 --> 02:45:51.740
but how did that 15-20%

02:45:51.740 --> 02:45:53.060
if 80% Christians

02:45:53.060 --> 02:45:55.040
plus Catholics and Protestants

02:45:55.410 --> 02:45:57.760
how did they get outflanked

02:45:57.760 --> 02:45:59.260
to have this one religious view

02:45:59.260 --> 02:46:01.520
get so emboldened into

02:46:01.520 --> 02:46:02.180
our politics

02:46:02.180 --> 02:46:07.580
I think it's because that

02:46:11.430 --> 02:46:13.280
it's a highly motivated group

02:46:14.320 --> 02:46:16.380
the evangelical movement

02:46:16.380 --> 02:46:18.740
there are many good things that come out of it too

02:46:18.740 --> 02:46:19.480
so it's not a

02:46:19.480 --> 02:46:22.020
straight criticism of this movement

02:46:22.020 --> 02:46:23.840
but this is one of those things

02:46:24.380 --> 02:46:26.160
that in a

02:46:26.160 --> 02:46:28.440
good movement where you're trying to go out

02:46:28.440 --> 02:46:30.320
and evangelize people

02:46:30.320 --> 02:46:32.320
tell people the good news right this is the

02:46:32.320 --> 02:46:34.420
commission of Christians is to give people

02:46:34.420 --> 02:46:35.640
the good news

02:46:37.020 --> 02:46:38.060
which was highly

02:46:38.660 --> 02:46:39.960
motivated and shaped

02:46:39.960 --> 02:46:42.040
by the system

02:46:42.040 --> 02:46:44.080
of like

02:46:44.080 --> 02:46:45.620
Dwight Moody

02:46:45.620 --> 02:46:47.280
who

02:46:48.080 --> 02:46:50.500
really set the gold standard

02:46:50.500 --> 02:46:52.080
in the 1800s

02:46:52.880 --> 02:46:54.480
and into the

02:46:54.480 --> 02:46:56.000
1900s

02:46:56.000 --> 02:46:58.340
this movement of evangelical Christians

02:46:58.340 --> 02:46:59.840
and it wasn't like they're all

02:46:59.840 --> 02:47:02.420
we're going to change everybody's perspective

02:47:02.420 --> 02:47:04.160
it's just it became

02:47:04.160 --> 02:47:05.900
it was a very

02:47:05.900 --> 02:47:08.100
efficient system to spread

02:47:08.100 --> 02:47:09.860
and using again

02:47:09.860 --> 02:47:11.480
the media tools

02:47:11.480 --> 02:47:13.160
that were coming online

02:47:13.160 --> 02:47:15.060
in the 1900s in the

02:47:15.060 --> 02:47:15.800
20th century

02:47:15.800 --> 02:47:19.000
and these big tents

02:47:19.000 --> 02:47:21.080
big town traveling

02:47:21.080 --> 02:47:22.660
traveling around our country

02:47:23.000 --> 02:47:25.300
bringing people in the radio

02:47:25.300 --> 02:47:26.380
the radio, yeah

02:47:26.380 --> 02:47:29.080
it dominated the

02:47:29.080 --> 02:47:29.660
space

02:47:29.660 --> 02:47:32.480
it was louder than

02:47:32.480 --> 02:47:35.160
most traditional churches

02:47:35.160 --> 02:47:35.480
were

02:47:35.480 --> 02:47:37.060
now again

02:47:37.060 --> 02:47:38.720
and when you get

02:47:38.720 --> 02:47:40.160
to that you have

02:47:40.160 --> 02:47:41.960
people that are motivated

02:47:42.520 --> 02:47:43.040
to

02:47:44.620 --> 02:47:46.220
believe that they must

02:47:46.220 --> 02:47:47.680
make things happen

02:47:48.780 --> 02:47:50.200
and it wasn't always a view

02:47:50.200 --> 02:47:52.240
but it was a view that first

02:47:52.240 --> 02:47:53.560
that things were going to unravel

02:47:53.560 --> 02:47:56.160
that is God's promises that this

02:47:56.160 --> 02:47:58.320
dispensational belief that these are things

02:47:58.320 --> 02:48:00.880
going to happen regardless of our human

02:48:00.880 --> 02:48:01.880
hands in it

02:48:01.880 --> 02:48:04.400
but I think as time progressed

02:48:05.680 --> 02:48:06.780
people became

02:48:06.780 --> 02:48:07.240
more

02:48:08.460 --> 02:48:10.140
nationalistic with their Christian views

02:48:10.140 --> 02:48:11.380
bringing

02:48:12.200 --> 02:48:13.800
this type of view into

02:48:14.400 --> 02:48:14.940
politics

02:48:14.940 --> 02:48:17.360
we must make things happen

02:48:17.360 --> 02:48:19.180
we must get into the politics

02:48:19.180 --> 02:48:20.320
the political world

02:48:20.320 --> 02:48:22.800
we feel so strongly

02:48:22.800 --> 02:48:24.320
we're going to go in there

02:48:24.320 --> 02:48:25.420
and

02:48:28.180 --> 02:48:28.560
like

02:48:30.300 --> 02:48:31.540
Ted Cruz

02:48:31.540 --> 02:48:33.400
and people in modern

02:48:33.400 --> 02:48:35.640
current times that have these

02:48:35.640 --> 02:48:37.100
strong views that

02:48:37.100 --> 02:48:39.380
the reason why they got into

02:48:39.380 --> 02:48:41.260
politics was because

02:48:41.260 --> 02:48:43.020
of their eschatology

02:48:43.540 --> 02:48:45.200
because of their dispensational beliefs

02:48:45.200 --> 02:48:46.680
and they may not even call it

02:48:46.680 --> 02:48:47.800
dispensational themselves

02:48:49.060 --> 02:48:50.220
to them

02:48:50.220 --> 02:48:52.700
they're raised up in a thing

02:48:52.700 --> 02:48:54.820
growing up in this

02:48:55.350 --> 02:48:57.240
I wasn't told I was a dispensationalist

02:48:57.240 --> 02:48:58.580
I wasn't told that I was like

02:48:58.580 --> 02:49:00.720
oh Skollfield is where everything comes

02:49:00.720 --> 02:49:01.000
from

02:49:01.900 --> 02:49:04.300
you're just taught that this is the view

02:49:04.300 --> 02:49:05.880
this is the correct view of the Bible

02:49:06.800 --> 02:49:08.600
other Christian groups have it

02:49:08.600 --> 02:49:10.200
wrong when they're not teaching this

02:49:10.200 --> 02:49:12.740
the Catholics don't know what they're talking about over here

02:49:12.740 --> 02:49:14.460
these Protestants don't know what they're

02:49:14.460 --> 02:49:15.520
talking about over here

02:49:15.520 --> 02:49:18.300
this is we have

02:49:18.300 --> 02:49:20.180
the truth we have the ideas

02:49:20.180 --> 02:49:21.700
we have them corrected

02:49:22.300 --> 02:49:23.760
our ideas go all

02:49:23.760 --> 02:49:26.140
they'll say their ideas go all the way back to

02:49:26.140 --> 02:49:28.140
the beginning that it just was

02:49:28.140 --> 02:49:30.140
kind of lost for a while but rediscovered

02:49:30.680 --> 02:49:32.080
with the Bible and systematic

02:49:32.080 --> 02:49:33.860
reading of the Bible

02:49:34.900 --> 02:49:36.120
that that that

02:49:36.120 --> 02:49:37.460
that being said let's

02:49:38.140 --> 02:49:40.220
answer the second part of your

02:49:40.220 --> 02:49:42.140
your question on

02:49:42.140 --> 02:49:44.340
just the mentality right

02:49:44.340 --> 02:49:46.140
so what is it

02:49:46.140 --> 02:49:47.920
let's change it a little bit

02:49:47.920 --> 02:49:49.500
because if you want to know

02:49:49.500 --> 02:49:51.440
why do

02:49:52.140 --> 02:49:54.000
why do Jews seem to go crazy

02:49:54.000 --> 02:49:55.880
when they get attacked or whenever

02:49:55.880 --> 02:49:57.720
you know why do they all of a sudden

02:49:57.720 --> 02:50:00.000
kind of unite and people just go crazy

02:50:00.000 --> 02:50:02.220
all over on both sides about this stuff

02:50:02.220 --> 02:50:03.800
and like oh well we got you know

02:50:03.800 --> 02:50:05.840
here comes like we're leading to Armageddon

02:50:06.280 --> 02:50:06.720
well

02:50:07.660 --> 02:50:10.100
what is the view when you're talking to someone

02:50:10.100 --> 02:50:11.880
and you can agree with them on like

02:50:11.880 --> 02:50:13.900
you know maybe they're they don't believe in

02:50:13.900 --> 02:50:15.960
you know in certain wars you know

02:50:15.960 --> 02:50:18.140
Ukraine okay they're not on board with that

02:50:18.140 --> 02:50:19.720
you know that that's just that

02:50:19.720 --> 02:50:21.680
that might be a problem to them other things

02:50:21.680 --> 02:50:23.560
or could be big problems

02:50:23.560 --> 02:50:25.800
to them and we can have a lot

02:50:25.800 --> 02:50:27.260
of libertarian

02:50:28.620 --> 02:50:29.900
peaceful views

02:50:29.900 --> 02:50:31.700
right peaceful views

02:50:31.700 --> 02:50:33.800
on you know

02:50:33.800 --> 02:50:35.800
how how we should treat

02:50:35.800 --> 02:50:37.700
some of the nicest people my

02:50:37.700 --> 02:50:40.240
own family members you know friends of mine

02:50:40.240 --> 02:50:41.720
who are dispensations

02:50:41.720 --> 02:50:43.700
are the nicest people ever they are

02:50:43.700 --> 02:50:45.460
well behaved they you know

02:50:45.460 --> 02:50:47.660
drink very little they're not vulgar

02:50:47.660 --> 02:50:49.540
you know they they have a love

02:50:49.540 --> 02:50:51.180
on them in them for people

02:50:51.180 --> 02:50:53.500
and humanity they're very

02:50:53.500 --> 02:50:54.960
entwined to that but

02:50:55.500 --> 02:50:57.420
as soon as you start talking about

02:50:57.420 --> 02:50:59.380
Israel and the enemies

02:50:59.380 --> 02:51:01.380
that Israel modern Israel today

02:51:01.380 --> 02:51:02.520
you know the agent

02:51:03.360 --> 02:51:05.120
face they're just like oh no

02:51:05.120 --> 02:51:07.400
they need to destroy them those are evil

02:51:07.400 --> 02:51:09.240
remember during the

02:51:11.200 --> 02:51:13.220
after October 7th with

02:51:13.220 --> 02:51:15.480
the thing going on in

02:51:15.480 --> 02:51:17.100
Palestine in Gaza

02:51:17.100 --> 02:51:18.640
after the attack

02:51:18.640 --> 02:51:20.540
they came out and said they're the

02:51:21.520 --> 02:51:23.480
what is it the amorite

02:51:23.480 --> 02:51:24.720
I believe

02:51:24.720 --> 02:51:26.660
you know that's what the Israeli

02:51:26.660 --> 02:51:27.700
government started to come out

02:51:27.700 --> 02:51:29.560
there we go

02:51:29.560 --> 02:51:32.280
and they started saying that the Palestinians

02:51:32.280 --> 02:51:34.540
are Amalek well what did God

02:51:35.100 --> 02:51:35.880
do to

02:51:36.800 --> 02:51:38.520
to Amalek

02:51:38.520 --> 02:51:40.520
to those people

02:51:41.100 --> 02:51:42.620
when they came in to

02:51:43.920 --> 02:51:45.140
possess the land

02:51:45.140 --> 02:51:47.400
you know God in the Bible

02:51:47.400 --> 02:51:49.180
you know had the

02:51:49.180 --> 02:51:50.320
wage of war

02:51:50.320 --> 02:51:53.040
and for some of those people in the lands

02:51:53.040 --> 02:51:55.540
it was a systematic destruction

02:51:55.540 --> 02:51:56.820
down to the

02:51:56.820 --> 02:51:59.200
to the last child even to the last

02:51:59.200 --> 02:52:01.040
livestock right so

02:52:01.040 --> 02:52:02.740
why are they hearkening that

02:52:02.740 --> 02:52:04.520
type of messaging today

02:52:05.340 --> 02:52:06.560
about people

02:52:07.140 --> 02:52:09.160
that are trapped in this little place called

02:52:09.160 --> 02:52:10.680
Gaza today

02:52:10.680 --> 02:52:12.900
and this and why

02:52:12.900 --> 02:52:13.680
are Christians

02:52:15.880 --> 02:52:16.940
reciting this

02:52:16.940 --> 02:52:18.860
as a reason

02:52:18.860 --> 02:52:20.820
you know for the for

02:52:20.820 --> 02:52:22.840
Israel to continue to do what they're doing

02:52:22.840 --> 02:52:24.920
to the point where when you ask

02:52:24.920 --> 02:52:26.240
someone and say like look

02:52:27.040 --> 02:52:28.920
Israel just blew up

02:52:28.920 --> 02:52:30.820
you know after October 7th

02:52:30.820 --> 02:52:32.780
there was a church I cannot

02:52:32.780 --> 02:52:34.980
remember what the name of it is but it was an ancient

02:52:34.980 --> 02:52:36.740
church built I think

02:52:36.740 --> 02:52:38.800
three or six hundred maybe in

02:52:38.800 --> 02:52:41.200
the seventh sixth or seventh century

02:52:41.200 --> 02:52:42.220
and

02:52:42.220 --> 02:52:44.740
this is a historical site

02:52:44.740 --> 02:52:46.940
a historical church that has been in operation

02:52:46.940 --> 02:52:49.440
since the fifth or sixth century

02:52:50.360 --> 02:52:51.020
and

02:52:52.160 --> 02:52:53.280
teaching Christianity

02:52:53.280 --> 02:52:55.240
even with the crusades

02:52:55.240 --> 02:52:56.500
and all the you know Islamic

02:52:57.200 --> 02:52:58.960
takeover and stuff it's been a church

02:52:58.960 --> 02:53:01.080
that's been operating teaching Christianity

02:53:01.080 --> 02:53:02.760
right and

02:53:02.760 --> 02:53:04.420
when the bombing started

02:53:04.420 --> 02:53:06.520
they opened their doors to bring women

02:53:06.520 --> 02:53:08.320
children and old people didn't matter

02:53:08.320 --> 02:53:09.940
Muslim Christians

02:53:09.940 --> 02:53:12.200
whatever took shelter

02:53:12.200 --> 02:53:13.540
in the church because the

02:53:14.160 --> 02:53:16.380
you know the rules of war

02:53:16.380 --> 02:53:18.160
you know that the ancient rules of wars

02:53:18.160 --> 02:53:19.840
that you can always find

02:53:19.840 --> 02:53:21.820
safety and

02:53:22.740 --> 02:53:23.920
you know within the

02:53:23.920 --> 02:53:26.320
confines of a sacred space

02:53:26.320 --> 02:53:28.140
like a church right you know

02:53:28.140 --> 02:53:30.360
your enemy is not going to destroy it now that does not

02:53:30.360 --> 02:53:32.100
always work out throughout history and not

02:53:32.100 --> 02:53:34.340
respected but you know that's kind of

02:53:34.340 --> 02:53:35.960
like you know even today's like

02:53:35.960 --> 02:53:37.340
this is a religious space

02:53:37.860 --> 02:53:39.900
you know it should be the least likely to

02:53:39.900 --> 02:53:41.420
be destroyed if you're following

02:53:41.960 --> 02:53:43.720
and Pete and and Israel

02:53:43.720 --> 02:53:45.740
blew that up and killed

02:53:45.740 --> 02:53:48.060
many of the people that were in there

02:53:48.060 --> 02:53:49.380
and their defense was

02:53:49.900 --> 02:53:51.820
well there may there may have been

02:53:51.820 --> 02:53:54.040
a Hamas underneath the

02:53:54.040 --> 02:53:55.980
church and when I bring this up

02:53:55.980 --> 02:53:58.220
to my Christian friends and family

02:53:58.220 --> 02:53:59.660
about this

02:53:59.660 --> 02:54:02.060
and say look you know how can

02:54:02.060 --> 02:54:04.060
we allow Christians

02:54:04.060 --> 02:54:05.600
over here in Gaza

02:54:05.600 --> 02:54:07.700
being killed by Israel

02:54:07.700 --> 02:54:10.060
and we just sit there and we don't

02:54:10.660 --> 02:54:11.420
we don't

02:54:11.420 --> 02:54:13.760
criticize Israel about it we don't

02:54:13.760 --> 02:54:15.900
we don't you know this is an abhorrent thing

02:54:15.900 --> 02:54:17.620
for any Muslim

02:54:18.400 --> 02:54:19.720
Jew or anybody

02:54:19.720 --> 02:54:21.840
that's innocent to be killed

02:54:21.840 --> 02:54:23.940
why aren't we speaking up about this

02:54:23.940 --> 02:54:25.680
and these are Christians by the way because you can

02:54:25.680 --> 02:54:27.940
you know some will make the argument well they're

02:54:27.940 --> 02:54:30.040
I'm not going to speak up about because they're Muslim

02:54:30.040 --> 02:54:31.840
well this is a clear instance that this was

02:54:31.840 --> 02:54:33.800
a Christian church with Christians inside too

02:54:33.800 --> 02:54:35.860
and they were blown up where are you going

02:54:35.860 --> 02:54:38.060
to say now and they'll sit back and say

02:54:38.060 --> 02:54:38.980
well

02:54:39.580 --> 02:54:41.000
they were supporting Hamas

02:54:41.720 --> 02:54:42.560
by proximity

02:54:43.220 --> 02:54:44.620
like if you had

02:54:45.400 --> 02:54:47.020
someone break into your house

02:54:47.020 --> 02:54:49.220
holding you hostage in your family

02:54:49.220 --> 02:54:51.500
and the police come along and say

02:54:52.380 --> 02:54:53.300
you know what

02:54:53.300 --> 02:54:55.480
rather than trying to rescue the hostages

02:54:55.480 --> 02:54:57.920
we're going to kill everyone in there because

02:54:57.920 --> 02:55:00.140
we think that there's still the bad guys

02:55:00.140 --> 02:55:02.220
in there somewhere maybe even under

02:55:02.220 --> 02:55:04.260
your house or something but because you just

02:55:04.260 --> 02:55:05.920
happen to be in the house the proximity

02:55:05.920 --> 02:55:07.760
maybe you're a hostage maybe they're just

02:55:07.760 --> 02:55:09.300
under your house whatever

02:55:09.960 --> 02:55:11.880
there you know that's justified

02:55:11.880 --> 02:55:14.060
for killing and it mazes

02:55:14.060 --> 02:55:15.540
me that this is

02:55:15.540 --> 02:55:17.380
I wanted to inject

02:55:17.940 --> 02:55:20.460
a little bit of history and continuity

02:55:21.220 --> 02:55:22.260
with all this

02:55:22.260 --> 02:55:24.140
stuff that Andrew's

02:55:24.660 --> 02:55:25.660
done because Andrew and I

02:55:25.660 --> 02:55:27.980
you know worked on

02:55:27.980 --> 02:55:28.500
this

02:55:29.580 --> 02:55:31.400
issue before years ago

02:55:32.280 --> 02:55:33.180
with the

02:55:33.850 --> 02:55:36.000
Zionist Christian Zionist movie

02:55:36.000 --> 02:55:36.800
remember that

02:55:38.200 --> 02:55:39.520
this is

02:55:39.520 --> 02:55:42.040
let me go ahead and kind of preface

02:55:42.040 --> 02:55:43.940
this a little bit those that are on video

02:55:43.940 --> 02:55:45.440
I just you know

02:55:45.670 --> 02:55:46.860
send you there and you can

02:55:46.860 --> 02:55:49.920
see you know where I'm going

02:55:49.920 --> 02:55:50.500
with this

02:55:52.480 --> 02:55:53.780
the born again

02:55:53.780 --> 02:55:55.660
evangelical Christian political

02:55:55.660 --> 02:55:57.600
support for Israel

02:55:57.600 --> 02:55:59.720
is a powerful movement

02:55:59.720 --> 02:56:01.900
that was primarily driven by theology

02:56:01.900 --> 02:56:02.960
specifically

02:56:03.350 --> 02:56:05.980
pre-millennial dispensationalism

02:56:05.980 --> 02:56:07.580
that Andrew has been detailing

02:56:07.580 --> 02:56:09.140
which views

02:56:09.140 --> 02:56:11.020
the modern state of Israel

02:56:11.570 --> 02:56:13.120
as a fulfillment

02:56:13.120 --> 02:56:15.160
of biblical prophecy

02:56:15.270 --> 02:56:16.780
prophecy and

02:56:17.270 --> 02:56:18.720
a precursor

02:56:18.720 --> 02:56:21.360
to the second coming of Jesus Christ

02:56:21.360 --> 02:56:23.700
that was the point that I

02:56:23.700 --> 02:56:25.660
was making about the late great

02:56:25.660 --> 02:56:26.760
planet earth book

02:56:27.760 --> 02:56:29.360
that supported that

02:56:29.360 --> 02:56:31.840
so it got all the media attention

02:56:31.840 --> 02:56:33.500
it got support from politicians

02:56:33.500 --> 02:56:34.980
the evangelical

02:56:35.500 --> 02:56:37.280
born again Christian movement

02:56:37.280 --> 02:56:39.080
Israel whatever oh hell yeah

02:56:39.080 --> 02:56:41.180
that yeah we vote that you know

02:56:41.180 --> 02:56:42.260
we're going to push that

02:56:43.400 --> 02:56:45.400
well when he started talking about

02:56:46.240 --> 02:56:47.440
dispensationalism there were some key

02:56:47.440 --> 02:56:48.560
figures in there and you keep

02:56:48.560 --> 02:56:50.920
mentioning Schofield

02:56:51.740 --> 02:56:52.380
Schofield

02:56:52.920 --> 02:56:54.420
popularized the system

02:56:54.420 --> 02:56:56.920
through the Schofield reference

02:56:56.920 --> 02:56:57.640
Bible

02:56:58.620 --> 02:57:00.360
this Bible was given to the

02:57:00.800 --> 02:57:02.480
seminaries that trained Christian

02:57:02.480 --> 02:57:03.060
pastors

02:57:03.860 --> 02:57:06.400
the footnotes in it are as much

02:57:06.400 --> 02:57:08.560
as the Bible I mean this thing

02:57:08.560 --> 02:57:10.820
it's like in this phrase

02:57:10.820 --> 02:57:12.580
this passage means this

02:57:12.580 --> 02:57:14.160
this this this this this this this

02:57:14.160 --> 02:57:15.000
oh the next one

02:57:15.760 --> 02:57:17.680
means this this this this this this

02:57:17.680 --> 02:57:19.360
I mean it was it was just

02:57:19.360 --> 02:57:21.680
amazing how much

02:57:21.680 --> 02:57:22.680
of a

02:57:23.420 --> 02:57:25.400
it was like the teachers

02:57:26.320 --> 02:57:27.440
version of the

02:57:27.440 --> 02:57:29.400
the manual you know I'm going to tell you

02:57:29.400 --> 02:57:31.680
what it means and how it does now that was

02:57:31.680 --> 02:57:33.500
the power of Martin Luther

02:57:33.500 --> 02:57:35.880
King the Lutherans

02:57:35.880 --> 02:57:37.220
what happened was

02:57:39.120 --> 02:57:39.620
Martin

02:57:39.620 --> 02:57:41.500
Luther he goes

02:57:41.500 --> 02:57:43.000
well we just print

02:57:43.630 --> 02:57:45.740
have a printing press now print the Bible you can read it

02:57:45.740 --> 02:57:47.820
you're damn self you don't need a priest

02:57:47.820 --> 02:57:49.360
to define it for you

02:57:49.360 --> 02:57:51.640
well you know so that kind

02:57:51.640 --> 02:57:53.520
of loosened a lot of the grip

02:57:55.240 --> 02:57:55.980
in the

02:57:55.980 --> 02:57:57.520
1800s when they started

02:57:58.760 --> 02:57:59.680
pushing this

02:57:59.680 --> 02:58:01.540
dispensationalism of the

02:58:01.540 --> 02:58:03.640
timeline of what it you

02:58:03.640 --> 02:58:05.680
could feel that it had a lot

02:58:05.680 --> 02:58:07.100
of fear

02:58:07.740 --> 02:58:09.520
humans operate and based

02:58:09.520 --> 02:58:11.720
and get motivated by fear

02:58:11.720 --> 02:58:13.480
and in every era

02:58:13.480 --> 02:58:14.920
that this happens

02:58:15.920 --> 02:58:17.240
it's a right around the corner

02:58:17.920 --> 02:58:19.080
it's in your lifetime

02:58:19.080 --> 02:58:20.940
your kids are going to have to deal with this

02:58:20.940 --> 02:58:22.840
we got to do it now now now now now

02:58:22.840 --> 02:58:24.940
and often times there'll be a date

02:58:25.360 --> 02:58:26.620
there'll be some you know

02:58:27.040 --> 02:58:28.260
astrological whatever the heck

02:58:28.260 --> 02:58:29.660
or this thing is going to happen

02:58:29.660 --> 02:58:31.700
and then they always pass

02:58:33.160 --> 02:58:34.840
now that doesn't mean there isn't

02:58:34.840 --> 02:58:36.280
going to be a date but even the Bible

02:58:36.280 --> 02:58:38.020
says you do not know

02:58:38.020 --> 02:58:39.860
nor will you ever know you won't know

02:58:39.860 --> 02:58:41.840
so get over it

02:58:41.840 --> 02:58:43.940
now one of the things

02:58:43.940 --> 02:58:45.340
is the biblical

02:58:45.860 --> 02:58:47.820
borders of Israel

02:58:47.820 --> 02:58:49.980
they attest it to

02:58:49.980 --> 02:58:51.600
Numbers 34 Genesis

02:58:51.600 --> 02:58:53.900
15 whatever and then they

02:58:53.900 --> 02:58:55.660
have the promised land that

02:58:55.660 --> 02:58:57.940
they define it it's from here to here to here

02:58:57.940 --> 02:58:59.420
to here now there are some

02:58:59.420 --> 02:59:01.800
smaller versions some bigger versions

02:59:01.800 --> 02:59:03.960
well guess which one they latch onto

02:59:03.960 --> 02:59:05.880
it's a greater big

02:59:05.880 --> 02:59:07.940
Israel okay goes all

02:59:07.940 --> 02:59:08.980
the way up the Syria

02:59:08.980 --> 02:59:10.980
you know it goes to Euphrates

02:59:10.980 --> 02:59:13.360
to the Nile to the Mediterranean

02:59:13.920 --> 02:59:15.840
it's Jordan Syria Lebanon

02:59:15.840 --> 02:59:17.920
so what is Israel doing now

02:59:17.920 --> 02:59:19.940
bombing a crap out of southern Lebanon

02:59:19.940 --> 02:59:22.360
and they're moving in here it comes

02:59:22.360 --> 02:59:24.140
Gaza got it

02:59:24.140 --> 02:59:25.820
Golan Heights got it

02:59:25.820 --> 02:59:27.840
this is not done

02:59:27.840 --> 02:59:29.140
this is being

02:59:29.940 --> 02:59:31.920
done now and you're not seeing

02:59:32.800 --> 02:59:34.280
any footage of this

02:59:34.280 --> 02:59:35.760
the death diamond destruction

02:59:35.760 --> 02:59:36.820
of what's going on

02:59:36.820 --> 02:59:38.360
they're just doing it

02:59:38.360 --> 02:59:40.720
now if you want to get kind of a historical

02:59:41.520 --> 02:59:42.840
aspect of this

02:59:42.840 --> 02:59:44.220
you go back to

02:59:44.220 --> 02:59:46.540
let's see what was it

02:59:46.540 --> 02:59:48.380
it was The Source

02:59:48.380 --> 02:59:49.980
by James Mitchner

02:59:49.980 --> 02:59:52.420
now Mitchner wrote the book Hawaii

02:59:52.420 --> 02:59:55.040
he wrote a lot of things

02:59:55.040 --> 02:59:57.340
about different regions in the world

02:59:57.340 --> 02:59:59.520
a lot of novels

02:59:59.520 --> 03:00:02.040
on historical references

03:00:02.040 --> 03:00:04.000
of what that culture was like

03:00:04.000 --> 03:00:05.660
and their motivations and so on

03:00:05.660 --> 03:00:07.740
and one of the books that he wrote was called

03:00:07.740 --> 03:00:08.660
The Source

03:00:08.660 --> 03:00:11.540
now how it played out

03:00:11.540 --> 03:00:14.140
is they had this one mound

03:00:14.140 --> 03:00:16.000
archaeologists were going

03:00:16.000 --> 03:00:17.940
excavating this site called Makor

03:00:17.940 --> 03:00:19.560
now Makor

03:00:19.560 --> 03:00:21.460
what they had done is they kind of

03:00:21.800 --> 03:00:23.540
went into this mound at the bottom

03:00:23.540 --> 03:00:25.060
and then kind of did a trench

03:00:25.060 --> 03:00:26.480
and kind of worked their way up

03:00:26.480 --> 03:00:28.880
so it started back when caveman

03:00:28.880 --> 03:00:30.960
was at the spring that was there

03:00:30.960 --> 03:00:32.100
and started cultivating

03:00:32.560 --> 03:00:34.000
crops and you know whatever

03:00:34.000 --> 03:00:36.640
and it goes all the way throughout history

03:00:36.640 --> 03:00:38.620
up and up and up and up the history

03:00:38.620 --> 03:00:39.440
of the Middle East

03:00:39.440 --> 03:00:42.040
here's the Israelites

03:00:42.660 --> 03:00:44.180
here's the Promised Land of Canaan

03:00:44.180 --> 03:00:46.040
then it gets into the Christian era

03:00:46.040 --> 03:00:48.260
it goes through the crusades

03:00:48.260 --> 03:00:50.160
and acquisitions and I mean it goes

03:00:50.160 --> 03:00:51.380
on and on and on and on

03:00:52.180 --> 03:00:54.160
it was a fascinating book

03:00:54.720 --> 03:00:55.940
because it provided

03:00:56.900 --> 03:00:58.260
a novelized version

03:00:58.260 --> 03:00:59.960
of the history of it

03:00:59.960 --> 03:01:01.940
and then of course you would at the same time

03:01:01.940 --> 03:01:04.480
I'm reading the Bible so you're kind of checking back and forth

03:01:04.480 --> 03:01:05.820
but he definitely

03:01:05.820 --> 03:01:07.020
had his own

03:01:07.780 --> 03:01:10.560
take on this but it gives you an idea

03:01:10.560 --> 03:01:12.100
of the ideology

03:01:12.100 --> 03:01:13.540
that was at play

03:01:14.180 --> 03:01:16.440
but then what book do you use

03:01:16.440 --> 03:01:18.020
well here we have

03:01:18.020 --> 03:01:19.840
you know Z from China

03:01:19.840 --> 03:01:21.060
reading the Art of War

03:01:21.060 --> 03:01:23.080
and Trump the Art of the Deal

03:01:23.080 --> 03:01:26.620
well which one did this play into

03:01:26.620 --> 03:01:28.980
what narrative does this support

03:01:28.980 --> 03:01:30.980
whatever the hell they want it to

03:01:30.980 --> 03:01:32.520
that's what they do

03:01:32.520 --> 03:01:34.720
so then you get into

03:01:34.720 --> 03:01:36.940
you know Israel gets

03:01:36.940 --> 03:01:39.500
its maximum borders that it wants

03:01:39.500 --> 03:01:41.140
then you have

03:01:41.140 --> 03:01:42.960
I remember they really

03:01:42.960 --> 03:01:44.620
pushed this certainly in

03:01:44.620 --> 03:01:46.400
Christian high school or kids went to

03:01:46.400 --> 03:01:48.640
the fear of the Lord is the beginning

03:01:48.640 --> 03:01:50.760
of wisdom Proverbs 9

03:01:50.760 --> 03:01:51.180
10

03:01:52.280 --> 03:01:54.700
true wisdom starts with a deep

03:01:54.700 --> 03:01:56.700
reverent respect for God

03:01:56.700 --> 03:01:58.100
acknowledging his authority

03:01:58.350 --> 03:01:59.220
and holiness

03:02:00.720 --> 03:02:02.460
it's not supposed to be

03:02:02.460 --> 03:02:04.280
a terror kind of warning thing

03:02:04.280 --> 03:02:06.120
but a loving awe

03:02:06.120 --> 03:02:08.680
that compels believers to honor God

03:02:08.680 --> 03:02:10.080
obey his commands

03:02:10.270 --> 03:02:12.440
shun evil forming the foundation

03:02:12.440 --> 03:02:14.220
for sound judgment

03:02:14.220 --> 03:02:16.400
well what happens

03:02:16.400 --> 03:02:18.280
is during

03:02:18.280 --> 03:02:20.380
this Christian

03:02:20.380 --> 03:02:22.280
Zionism they really emphasize

03:02:22.280 --> 03:02:24.720
this part fear the Lord

03:02:24.720 --> 03:02:26.860
you're going to die if you don't do it right

03:02:26.860 --> 03:02:28.680
I have heard this

03:02:28.680 --> 03:02:30.240
this just word doctrine

03:02:30.240 --> 03:02:30.660
thing

03:02:32.300 --> 03:02:33.600
we're going to get them and

03:02:34.420 --> 03:02:36.620
here comes the born again

03:02:37.260 --> 03:02:38.550
Christian political movement

03:02:38.920 --> 03:02:40.450
which I remember in the 70s

03:02:40.900 --> 03:02:42.280
it was kind of important

03:02:42.280 --> 03:02:44.450
to get involved in earthly politics

03:02:44.820 --> 03:02:46.000
really seriously

03:02:46.000 --> 03:02:47.520
you think voting is going to

03:02:47.520 --> 03:02:49.760
change you know so then it became

03:02:49.760 --> 03:02:51.680
this born again Christian

03:02:51.680 --> 03:02:52.800
movement

03:02:53.440 --> 03:02:55.300
that was primarily driven by

03:02:55.300 --> 03:02:57.760
theology specifically pre

03:02:57.760 --> 03:02:59.700
millennial dispensations that we talked

03:02:59.700 --> 03:03:01.640
about but it was

03:03:01.640 --> 03:03:03.100
still based on this

03:03:03.580 --> 03:03:04.640
second coming

03:03:04.640 --> 03:03:07.600
here comes Christ so this is

03:03:07.600 --> 03:03:09.920
how the moral majority

03:03:09.920 --> 03:03:11.900
in this Christian Zionism

03:03:11.900 --> 03:03:13.940
the theology really started

03:03:13.940 --> 03:03:15.160
to get into

03:03:16.280 --> 03:03:17.200
politics

03:03:17.200 --> 03:03:19.060
and Israel

03:03:19.060 --> 03:03:21.100
now how that was

03:03:21.100 --> 03:03:23.120
done this is what

03:03:23.120 --> 03:03:25.240
I wanted to build up to get to

03:03:25.240 --> 03:03:25.580
this

03:03:26.720 --> 03:03:29.020
when we had our workshop

03:03:29.020 --> 03:03:31.200
in Phoenix during the right after

03:03:31.200 --> 03:03:33.100
the revolution we had like our

03:03:33.100 --> 03:03:35.100
second third workshop and

03:03:35.100 --> 03:03:37.120
we had a studio in there we had all

03:03:37.120 --> 03:03:38.520
kinds of equipment it was a fact

03:03:39.200 --> 03:03:41.160
well during that time

03:03:41.160 --> 03:03:43.140
one of the videographers that's friends

03:03:43.140 --> 03:03:45.060
of you know Andrew and

03:03:45.060 --> 03:03:46.680
I and Frank

03:03:46.680 --> 03:03:49.080
Shelton is 44 oh

03:03:49.080 --> 03:03:50.860
not and he just made all kinds

03:03:50.860 --> 03:03:52.220
of videos went viral he

03:03:52.980 --> 03:03:54.980
had it you know going on

03:03:54.980 --> 03:03:56.820
there was a guy

03:03:56.820 --> 03:03:58.960
his name was Charles

03:03:58.960 --> 03:04:00.820
Carlson now

03:04:00.820 --> 03:04:02.700
he was during

03:04:02.700 --> 03:04:03.360
the

03:04:04.340 --> 03:04:06.880
right after the start of

03:04:06.880 --> 03:04:08.600
the war the rack war in

03:04:08.600 --> 03:04:10.560
03 going to ground invasion

03:04:11.680 --> 03:04:13.320
he was very much

03:04:13.320 --> 03:04:15.000
against Christians

03:04:15.000 --> 03:04:17.420
being supportive of war

03:04:17.420 --> 03:04:19.180
in the Middle East while they're still

03:04:19.180 --> 03:04:20.540
claiming to be pro-life

03:04:21.140 --> 03:04:22.740
unless you're Muslim or something

03:04:22.740 --> 03:04:25.040
okay so he was out there

03:04:25.040 --> 03:04:27.160
protesting I remember

03:04:27.160 --> 03:04:28.900
this because that's when I started

03:04:28.900 --> 03:04:30.840
my radio show in February

03:04:30.840 --> 03:04:33.080
of 03 about a month month and a

03:04:33.080 --> 03:04:34.700
half before the ground invasion

03:04:35.120 --> 03:04:37.060
in Iraq so I had him

03:04:37.060 --> 03:04:39.040
on so I'm going yeah

03:04:39.040 --> 03:04:40.980
you know come on let's talk

03:04:40.980 --> 03:04:43.100
about it so we did shows

03:04:43.100 --> 03:04:45.000
and so on well years later

03:04:45.000 --> 03:04:46.780
he came to me and he says hey

03:04:46.780 --> 03:04:48.740
do you know anybody who can take

03:04:48.740 --> 03:04:50.560
my research on this Christian

03:04:50.560 --> 03:04:52.820
Zionism stuff and do a video

03:04:52.820 --> 03:04:54.820
I see you're doing okay I can talk to some people

03:04:55.480 --> 03:04:56.840
so I talked to you know

03:04:56.840 --> 03:04:58.800
like Andrew and Shelton

03:04:58.800 --> 03:05:00.320
and everything you know what anybody

03:05:00.320 --> 03:05:02.620
have an interest in she'll go hell

03:05:02.620 --> 03:05:04.940
yeah I can do this so he worked

03:05:04.940 --> 03:05:07.020
with Carlson they created the movie

03:05:07.660 --> 03:05:08.180
Christian

03:05:08.940 --> 03:05:11.020
Zionism and it took off

03:05:11.020 --> 03:05:13.040
well we made

03:05:13.800 --> 03:05:14.440
hundreds

03:05:14.440 --> 03:05:16.320
thousands of DVDs of this

03:05:16.320 --> 03:05:18.200
put them in cases and

03:05:18.200 --> 03:05:20.400
you know a bunch of the activists

03:05:20.400 --> 03:05:21.620
would go to the large

03:05:22.320 --> 03:05:23.420
Christian churches

03:05:23.420 --> 03:05:25.920
and pass them out off the property

03:05:25.920 --> 03:05:27.480
now they go and ask permission

03:05:27.480 --> 03:05:30.140
you know of the leadership they all hell no

03:05:30.140 --> 03:05:32.240
okay so they go

03:05:32.240 --> 03:05:33.840
out on the street sidewalk

03:05:33.840 --> 03:05:36.460
people were leaving walking to their cars

03:05:36.460 --> 03:05:38.320
off the grounds and so on

03:05:38.320 --> 03:05:39.860
passing this stuff out

03:05:39.860 --> 03:05:41.020
and it got

03:05:41.020 --> 03:05:43.500
a lot of attention

03:05:43.500 --> 03:05:44.940
and push back

03:05:44.940 --> 03:05:48.320
so this right here

03:05:48.320 --> 03:05:49.680
is the movie

03:05:49.680 --> 03:05:51.840
on rumble you go

03:05:51.840 --> 03:05:54.220
Christian Zionism the tragedy

03:05:54.220 --> 03:05:55.140
and the turning

03:05:55.140 --> 03:05:57.160
what it was about

03:05:57.160 --> 03:06:00.100
was about the Scofield Bible

03:06:00.100 --> 03:06:02.340
Scofield Bible

03:06:02.340 --> 03:06:03.540
Scofield Bible

03:06:03.540 --> 03:06:04.960
made

03:06:05.540 --> 03:06:07.460
Christian Zionism

03:06:07.460 --> 03:06:08.160
a thing

03:06:08.160 --> 03:06:10.820
and trained new pastors

03:06:10.820 --> 03:06:11.780
to be

03:06:13.320 --> 03:06:15.260
willing and able to preach

03:06:15.260 --> 03:06:16.100
this linkage

03:06:16.100 --> 03:06:18.760
and that the United States of America

03:06:19.200 --> 03:06:21.200
be behind the creation

03:06:21.200 --> 03:06:22.160
of the state of Israel

03:06:22.160 --> 03:06:24.820
support it and its interest

03:06:24.820 --> 03:06:26.240
and here comes

03:06:26.240 --> 03:06:28.640
Christ if only

03:06:28.640 --> 03:06:30.640
you could reconstitute

03:06:30.640 --> 03:06:32.680
the state of Israel

03:06:32.680 --> 03:06:34.980
that is a precursor

03:06:34.980 --> 03:06:36.280
to Christ coming

03:06:36.280 --> 03:06:38.980
and along a bunch of other stuff

03:06:38.980 --> 03:06:40.040
and that's why I bring up

03:06:40.510 --> 03:06:42.740
the late great pen at earth because it details

03:06:42.740 --> 03:06:45.220
a lot of these steps and things that need to pass

03:06:46.000 --> 03:06:47.100
this is

03:06:47.100 --> 03:06:48.280
deplatform

03:06:49.580 --> 03:06:51.220
band shadow band

03:06:51.220 --> 03:06:52.800
whatever and I finally

03:06:52.800 --> 03:06:54.980
found it again on rumble

03:06:54.980 --> 03:06:56.460
so we put it up

03:06:56.460 --> 03:06:58.380
and now this was

03:06:58.380 --> 03:06:59.900
at a time that Andrew

03:06:59.900 --> 03:07:02.160
was a regular at our workshop

03:07:02.160 --> 03:07:03.900
when this was going on

03:07:03.900 --> 03:07:06.280
what they did

03:07:06.280 --> 03:07:08.180
is the Scofield Bible

03:07:09.080 --> 03:07:09.960
infiltrated

03:07:09.960 --> 03:07:12.300
and went into all of

03:07:12.300 --> 03:07:14.540
the seminaries as much as they could

03:07:14.540 --> 03:07:16.500
to train generation

03:07:16.500 --> 03:07:18.440
next and next

03:07:18.440 --> 03:07:20.180
and next for last

03:07:20.180 --> 03:07:21.500
100 whatever years

03:07:21.500 --> 03:07:23.080
into marrying

03:07:24.100 --> 03:07:25.560
Christian faith

03:07:25.560 --> 03:07:27.340
and the church

03:07:27.340 --> 03:07:29.980
with the interest of Zionist

03:07:29.980 --> 03:07:32.360
that's how it happened

03:07:32.360 --> 03:07:33.560
that's how

03:07:33.560 --> 03:07:35.320
it happened

03:07:35.320 --> 03:07:36.380
it was

03:07:36.380 --> 03:07:39.280
art of war, art of the deal

03:07:39.280 --> 03:07:41.020
art of Christian Zionism

03:07:41.340 --> 03:07:43.500
it's just a political thing

03:07:43.500 --> 03:07:45.400
so there are interest

03:07:45.400 --> 03:07:47.280
involved in that

03:07:47.280 --> 03:07:48.280
and I'm

03:07:48.280 --> 03:07:50.680
wanting to make it clear

03:07:50.680 --> 03:07:51.900
and people to understand

03:07:51.900 --> 03:07:53.880
there was a mechanism

03:07:54.640 --> 03:07:55.940
that it was

03:07:55.940 --> 03:07:57.600
the goal for whatever

03:07:57.600 --> 03:07:59.840
interests be it money

03:08:00.640 --> 03:08:01.320
bank

03:08:01.900 --> 03:08:04.040
control, create a state

03:08:04.040 --> 03:08:05.960
get on the dole

03:08:05.960 --> 03:08:07.660
from the US and gazillions of dollars

03:08:07.660 --> 03:08:09.860
goes to them to pick fights with the

03:08:09.860 --> 03:08:11.700
Arabs or whatever the hell

03:08:11.700 --> 03:08:13.700
this is how

03:08:13.700 --> 03:08:14.820
it was done

03:08:14.820 --> 03:08:16.760
Christian Zionism

03:08:16.760 --> 03:08:19.400
was a mechanism for

03:08:19.400 --> 03:08:21.000
marrying the United States

03:08:21.000 --> 03:08:22.680
the Christian church

03:08:22.680 --> 03:08:24.940
with Israel and its interest

03:08:24.940 --> 03:08:26.620
and here we go

03:08:26.620 --> 03:08:29.440
how far off am I

03:08:29.440 --> 03:08:29.960
Andrew

03:08:31.440 --> 03:08:32.880
I'd say that

03:08:33.100 --> 03:08:34.920
you're right on the money

03:08:34.920 --> 03:08:35.640
with that

03:08:35.640 --> 03:08:39.880
as far as

03:08:39.880 --> 03:08:40.240
the

03:08:41.220 --> 03:08:42.140
the

03:08:43.160 --> 03:08:44.380
thoughts behind it

03:08:44.380 --> 03:08:45.900
this misinterpretation

03:08:45.900 --> 03:08:47.360
basically this hard line

03:08:47.660 --> 03:08:49.560
looking at the Bible, systemizing it

03:08:49.560 --> 03:08:51.320
saying I'm going to take it very literally

03:08:51.900 --> 03:08:52.780
if it says

03:08:53.520 --> 03:08:55.340
God promised Abraham this

03:08:55.900 --> 03:08:56.360
land

03:08:57.060 --> 03:08:58.880
that to his seeds

03:08:58.880 --> 03:09:01.520
you must bless his seed

03:09:01.520 --> 03:09:03.800
and you think that that's a literal

03:09:03.800 --> 03:09:05.820
bloodline like all his children

03:09:05.820 --> 03:09:06.880
forever and ever

03:09:06.880 --> 03:09:09.020
you must never

03:09:09.020 --> 03:09:10.840
criticize, you must never

03:09:12.840 --> 03:09:14.360
have any thoughts about

03:09:14.360 --> 03:09:15.620
you must only support them

03:09:15.620 --> 03:09:18.080
and support this and that's our main thing

03:09:18.080 --> 03:09:19.420
this is what has led

03:09:19.420 --> 03:09:22.220
into our thinking in society

03:09:22.220 --> 03:09:23.300
and our thinking

03:09:24.140 --> 03:09:25.720
for many Christians

03:09:26.360 --> 03:09:27.360
to the point where

03:09:29.060 --> 03:09:30.460
modern-day Israel

03:09:30.460 --> 03:09:31.920
cannot do any wrong

03:09:31.920 --> 03:09:34.340
and if you criticize anything that Israel

03:09:34.340 --> 03:09:36.040
is doing you always have to come up in your head

03:09:36.040 --> 03:09:37.760
a way to justify it

03:09:38.200 --> 03:09:39.600
and this is something that

03:09:40.100 --> 03:09:41.980
I'm just going to take a little detour here

03:09:41.980 --> 03:09:44.160
but if you've ever heard

03:09:44.160 --> 03:09:45.120
of Albert Pike

03:09:46.920 --> 03:09:48.280
there's a letter

03:09:48.280 --> 03:09:50.160
that was supposedly written by him

03:09:50.160 --> 03:09:51.160
called the

03:09:52.560 --> 03:09:54.500
Predictions of the Three World Wars

03:09:54.500 --> 03:09:55.800
and Albert Pike was a

03:09:55.800 --> 03:09:57.480
Grandmaster of Freemason

03:09:57.480 --> 03:09:58.900
in the Civil War

03:10:00.680 --> 03:10:02.080
supposedly he wrote a letter

03:10:02.080 --> 03:10:03.160
that predicted the

03:10:03.160 --> 03:10:05.680
World War I, World War II, and World War III

03:10:05.680 --> 03:10:08.060
now there's both sides

03:10:08.060 --> 03:10:09.660
of the fence, some people don't think

03:10:09.660 --> 03:10:11.700
that it's

03:10:13.340 --> 03:10:15.680
they think it's a forgery and other people

03:10:16.260 --> 03:10:17.360
believe it's legit

03:10:17.360 --> 03:10:19.020
and there's a bit of fight

03:10:19.580 --> 03:10:21.600
it's actually kind of hard to find on the internet

03:10:21.600 --> 03:10:23.680
you can't find it but it's been

03:10:23.680 --> 03:10:25.260
scrubbed, not as easy to find

03:10:25.260 --> 03:10:27.340
the actual written article

03:10:27.340 --> 03:10:28.680
everybody is like

03:10:28.680 --> 03:10:31.540
just arguing over it

03:10:31.540 --> 03:10:33.420
but one thing I found really

03:10:33.420 --> 03:10:35.200
in the end of his letter

03:10:36.280 --> 03:10:37.960
one of the things that he talks about

03:10:37.960 --> 03:10:40.100
is agitating the world

03:10:40.100 --> 03:10:41.600
and releasing

03:10:41.600 --> 03:10:43.880
the nihilist upon the world

03:10:43.880 --> 03:10:45.440
so that

03:10:46.620 --> 03:10:47.380
Christians

03:10:47.960 --> 03:10:48.600
everywhere

03:10:49.880 --> 03:10:52.140
would, I'm paraphrasing

03:10:52.140 --> 03:10:53.900
so forgive me if I don't get

03:10:53.900 --> 03:10:55.900
quite as accurate

03:10:55.900 --> 03:10:57.740
but I believe he said

03:10:57.740 --> 03:10:59.180
that the nihilist would be

03:10:59.180 --> 03:11:01.580
least upon the world so that

03:11:01.580 --> 03:11:03.620
the world will revolt against it

03:11:03.620 --> 03:11:04.620
the Christians

03:11:04.620 --> 03:11:07.440
world and civilized world in general

03:11:07.440 --> 03:11:08.840
will revolt against it

03:11:11.580 --> 03:11:12.420
disenfranchised

03:11:12.420 --> 03:11:14.460
and looking for a solution

03:11:14.460 --> 03:11:15.900
that they will

03:11:16.620 --> 03:11:18.640
that when they

03:11:18.640 --> 03:11:19.980
present the solution

03:11:20.300 --> 03:11:22.280
to the world, to Christians

03:11:22.280 --> 03:11:24.480
in the world, that they will

03:11:24.480 --> 03:11:26.740
abandon their own morality

03:11:26.740 --> 03:11:28.360
and Christian

03:11:28.360 --> 03:11:29.340
beliefs

03:11:30.340 --> 03:11:32.420
and embrace the true light

03:11:32.420 --> 03:11:33.300
of Lucifer

03:11:33.300 --> 03:11:36.040
I swear this has been there

03:11:36.040 --> 03:11:36.820
for a long time

03:11:38.040 --> 03:11:40.200
you can argue with me about

03:11:40.200 --> 03:11:42.760
whether you think this is a legit paper or not

03:11:42.760 --> 03:11:44.220
I think it's very insightful

03:11:44.220 --> 03:11:46.200
because this is where we're at today

03:11:48.440 --> 03:11:50.060
the nihilists are being

03:11:50.060 --> 03:11:51.600
released on the world

03:11:52.380 --> 03:11:53.320
with terrorism

03:11:53.320 --> 03:11:55.020
with conflicts

03:11:55.020 --> 03:11:57.540
with countries that have been deemed

03:11:58.420 --> 03:11:59.880
the enemy of America

03:11:59.880 --> 03:12:02.380
where we're constantly poking

03:12:02.380 --> 03:12:04.020
and prodding into a position

03:12:04.020 --> 03:12:05.940
where they react to us

03:12:05.940 --> 03:12:08.080
therefore we can go

03:12:08.080 --> 03:12:09.480
say hey look

03:12:09.480 --> 03:12:10.540
look what they're doing

03:12:10.540 --> 03:12:12.320
these countries

03:12:12.320 --> 03:12:15.620
they attacked Israel, they attacked here

03:12:15.620 --> 03:12:17.060
they attacked us

03:12:17.880 --> 03:12:20.280
but we don't have perspective of history

03:12:20.280 --> 03:12:22.060
we don't go back to the beginning

03:12:22.060 --> 03:12:24.060
of the conflicts of history

03:12:24.060 --> 03:12:25.540
look back

03:12:25.540 --> 03:12:27.640
do some research, I implore you

03:12:27.640 --> 03:12:28.600
look at

03:12:29.420 --> 03:12:31.540
the history of Israel when it was set up

03:12:31.540 --> 03:12:33.940
see where the conflict originated

03:12:34.400 --> 03:12:35.700
it's not just like

03:12:35.700 --> 03:12:37.040
everything was peaceful

03:12:37.380 --> 03:12:38.440
minding their own business

03:12:39.240 --> 03:12:40.760
all of a sudden

03:12:40.760 --> 03:12:42.440
these evil neighbors

03:12:42.440 --> 03:12:44.340
started attacking them

03:12:45.340 --> 03:12:47.460
there's guilt on both sides

03:12:47.460 --> 03:12:49.640
but what I'm saying is

03:12:49.640 --> 03:12:51.120
that this is

03:12:51.640 --> 03:12:52.600
creating

03:12:54.160 --> 03:12:55.680
a persona

03:12:55.680 --> 03:12:56.080
that

03:12:56.080 --> 03:12:58.600
an idea

03:12:58.600 --> 03:13:00.500
that resonates

03:13:00.500 --> 03:13:03.040
in today's Christians

03:13:03.420 --> 03:13:04.680
these Zionist Christians

03:13:04.680 --> 03:13:07.360
which is the fact that

03:13:07.360 --> 03:13:09.740
we cannot be critical

03:13:09.740 --> 03:13:11.900
of this, this is God's will

03:13:11.900 --> 03:13:13.400
and when it becomes

03:13:13.400 --> 03:13:14.640
kind of a supernatural

03:13:15.680 --> 03:13:17.380
thing that now

03:13:17.380 --> 03:13:18.840
they're blind

03:13:18.840 --> 03:13:21.000
it's very hard to take off the blinders

03:13:21.000 --> 03:13:23.180
because anytime you start talking logic to them

03:13:23.180 --> 03:13:24.940
you can start talking about all these things

03:13:24.940 --> 03:13:26.800
they just shut down, nope

03:13:26.800 --> 03:13:27.700
not going to go there

03:13:28.540 --> 03:13:30.660
full support for this, full steam ahead

03:13:31.140 --> 03:13:31.660
you know

03:13:31.660 --> 03:13:33.160
and to them

03:13:35.400 --> 03:13:37.060
we've replaced our morality

03:13:37.060 --> 03:13:37.680
it's an excuse

03:13:37.680 --> 03:13:40.740
they use it as an excuse

03:13:40.740 --> 03:13:43.020
this is what I'm feeling

03:13:43.020 --> 03:13:44.580
all this time

03:13:44.960 --> 03:13:45.580
is that

03:13:47.100 --> 03:13:48.680
whatever it is

03:13:48.680 --> 03:13:50.060
that they're advocating

03:13:50.060 --> 03:13:51.700
serves

03:13:51.700 --> 03:13:54.220
something other than my individual rights

03:13:54.220 --> 03:13:56.240
or even America's interest

03:13:56.240 --> 03:13:57.500
as a collective

03:13:57.960 --> 03:13:59.000
as a government

03:13:59.000 --> 03:14:01.900
as a protectorate to the people and their rights

03:14:01.900 --> 03:14:02.920
as anything

03:14:02.920 --> 03:14:04.840
we have given up

03:14:04.840 --> 03:14:07.860
our control over our own lives

03:14:07.860 --> 03:14:09.620
or certainly our government

03:14:09.620 --> 03:14:12.000
because of this narrative

03:14:12.000 --> 03:14:14.060
the most powerful thing

03:14:14.060 --> 03:14:15.260
is a story

03:14:15.780 --> 03:14:17.900
it's a common belief in something

03:14:17.900 --> 03:14:20.080
and this has been done

03:14:20.080 --> 03:14:22.580
for well over a hundred years

03:14:22.580 --> 03:14:23.500
I mean

03:14:23.500 --> 03:14:25.740
150, 160, couple hundred

03:14:25.740 --> 03:14:27.180
a couple thousand years

03:14:27.180 --> 03:14:29.380
it has been to

03:14:29.900 --> 03:14:30.340
gather

03:14:31.120 --> 03:14:33.680
people in support of a certain

03:14:33.680 --> 03:14:35.400
story or narrative

03:14:35.400 --> 03:14:38.480
and threaten you with hell if you don't do it

03:14:38.480 --> 03:14:39.320
so

03:14:39.760 --> 03:14:41.280
this has been a

03:14:42.420 --> 03:14:43.860
very obvious

03:14:44.720 --> 03:14:45.440
manipulation

03:14:45.440 --> 03:14:47.660
and it's not

03:14:47.660 --> 03:14:49.460
even really based

03:14:49.460 --> 03:14:51.680
in any hard truth

03:14:52.540 --> 03:14:54.040
what got me interested

03:14:54.040 --> 03:14:54.960
I was probably

03:14:54.960 --> 03:14:57.460
19, 20 years old when I read

03:14:57.460 --> 03:14:59.640
The Source by James Mitchner

03:14:59.640 --> 03:15:01.040
because I liked all these books

03:15:01.040 --> 03:15:02.660
and I used to read a lot

03:15:02.660 --> 03:15:04.360
well I read that

03:15:04.360 --> 03:15:07.160
it goes through the history all the way up until

03:15:07.160 --> 03:15:09.160
I think Yom Kippur

03:15:09.160 --> 03:15:10.400
it was like this

03:15:11.260 --> 03:15:12.820
70 or something around there

03:15:12.820 --> 03:15:14.940
to where you had the

03:15:14.940 --> 03:15:17.060
mindset of the religion

03:15:17.060 --> 03:15:18.320
the

03:15:18.320 --> 03:15:20.080
temple

03:15:20.080 --> 03:15:22.140
where they call it synagogues

03:15:22.140 --> 03:15:24.120
where they would train rabbis

03:15:24.120 --> 03:15:26.920
the history that was going on then

03:15:26.920 --> 03:15:28.200
the crusades

03:15:28.200 --> 03:15:29.140
the governments

03:15:29.140 --> 03:15:32.540
it was a very

03:15:32.540 --> 03:15:34.220
interesting deep dive

03:15:34.820 --> 03:15:36.360
and I got the impression

03:15:36.360 --> 03:15:37.480
Mitchner

03:15:37.480 --> 03:15:40.660
he didn't

03:15:40.660 --> 03:15:42.100
have any love of

03:15:42.100 --> 03:15:43.060
any religion

03:15:43.060 --> 03:15:47.020
but it was very educational

03:15:47.020 --> 03:15:48.380
to get the history

03:15:48.380 --> 03:15:49.980
applied in a novel

03:15:49.980 --> 03:15:51.540
to many characters

03:15:51.540 --> 03:15:53.900
throughout hundreds of thousands of years

03:15:54.660 --> 03:15:55.600
this was

03:15:56.620 --> 03:15:58.260
eye-opening to me

03:15:58.260 --> 03:15:59.200
and

03:15:59.200 --> 03:16:01.540
I read the late great planet earth

03:16:01.540 --> 03:16:05.000
and I'm going okay this goes in with a lot of this stuff

03:16:05.000 --> 03:16:06.160
but it was

03:16:06.640 --> 03:16:07.540
cherry-picked

03:16:07.540 --> 03:16:09.360
it was used

03:16:09.360 --> 03:16:11.660
in order to provide

03:16:11.660 --> 03:16:13.500
a continuing narrative

03:16:13.500 --> 03:16:15.100
for modern times

03:16:15.100 --> 03:16:16.800
therefore this must happen

03:16:16.800 --> 03:16:18.500
then this then this

03:16:18.500 --> 03:16:20.500
and it all came down to

03:16:21.460 --> 03:16:22.860
dismantling the dome of the rock

03:16:23.260 --> 03:16:24.080
the Muslim

03:16:25.220 --> 03:16:26.580
temple that they have there

03:16:26.580 --> 03:16:28.740
you have the rebuilding

03:16:28.740 --> 03:16:31.920
of the temple in Jerusalem

03:16:31.920 --> 03:16:32.900
you know they had

03:16:32.900 --> 03:16:34.340
first one then Solomon

03:16:34.340 --> 03:16:35.940
and then you know

03:16:35.940 --> 03:16:37.740
whatever they're doing now

03:16:38.340 --> 03:16:40.340
they have you always hear about this

03:16:40.340 --> 03:16:42.120
red heifer perfect sacrifice

03:16:42.120 --> 03:16:44.600
of consecrating you know whatever

03:16:44.600 --> 03:16:46.420
so you always get that in the background

03:16:46.420 --> 03:16:48.240
everybody's like what the hell are they talking about

03:16:48.240 --> 03:16:49.260
red heifer what do you care

03:16:49.260 --> 03:16:51.580
because it is necessary

03:16:51.580 --> 03:16:53.040
to identify

03:16:53.040 --> 03:16:55.520
this perfect calf or whatever

03:16:55.520 --> 03:16:58.000
we always got the perfect one

03:16:58.000 --> 03:16:59.300
oh we found another one

03:16:59.300 --> 03:17:00.780
we're looking for one

03:17:00.780 --> 03:17:02.980
because of this need

03:17:02.980 --> 03:17:03.580
to

03:17:04.780 --> 03:17:07.100
sanctify or whatever the new temple

03:17:07.100 --> 03:17:08.640
so that a lot of these

03:17:08.640 --> 03:17:10.440
Christ can come back

03:17:10.440 --> 03:17:11.980
then they talk about

03:17:13.020 --> 03:17:14.780
Armageddon now you mentioned

03:17:14.780 --> 03:17:15.600
something about

03:17:15.600 --> 03:17:18.500
the Jerusalem it has

03:17:18.500 --> 03:17:21.140
the new Jerusalem is very specific

03:17:21.140 --> 03:17:22.580
they have I think it's

03:17:22.580 --> 03:17:24.200
144,000 people

03:17:24.780 --> 03:17:26.800
it's you know it has its dimensions

03:17:26.800 --> 03:17:28.120
how big it's like a cube

03:17:28.120 --> 03:17:29.580
it's like a board cube sitting

03:17:29.840 --> 03:17:31.100
on Jerusalem or something

03:17:31.100 --> 03:17:32.520
and literally

03:17:33.820 --> 03:17:34.140
and

03:17:35.360 --> 03:17:38.080
the type of people that that will be

03:17:38.080 --> 03:17:38.980
and

03:17:38.980 --> 03:17:41.600
what order things have to happen

03:17:42.120 --> 03:17:44.180
well it's always been that order

03:17:44.180 --> 03:17:46.360
it's always right around the corner

03:17:46.360 --> 03:17:47.860
it's always coming

03:17:47.860 --> 03:17:49.800
and this is the war to be the war

03:17:49.800 --> 03:17:51.740
the war you got this biblical

03:17:51.740 --> 03:17:53.820
war and I'm going

03:17:53.820 --> 03:17:54.740
okay

03:17:54.740 --> 03:17:56.800
when they did the just

03:17:56.800 --> 03:17:58.060
war doctrine

03:17:58.520 --> 03:18:00.360
thing with all the Christian churches

03:18:00.360 --> 03:18:02.400
that they could muster up to do this

03:18:02.400 --> 03:18:04.280
and brain wash

03:18:04.280 --> 03:18:05.100
literally

03:18:06.540 --> 03:18:08.340
the patriarchy of the men

03:18:08.340 --> 03:18:09.740
control of their households

03:18:09.740 --> 03:18:11.400
and Christian you know

03:18:11.400 --> 03:18:12.380
whatever

03:18:12.380 --> 03:18:16.400
I'm going this is a political campaign

03:18:16.400 --> 03:18:18.420
this is a mind screw

03:18:18.420 --> 03:18:20.440
this is a Psyop

03:18:20.440 --> 03:18:21.820
a Psyop

03:18:21.820 --> 03:18:22.980
a Psyop

03:18:22.980 --> 03:18:24.800
that was orchestrated

03:18:24.800 --> 03:18:27.640
over many years decades

03:18:27.640 --> 03:18:28.660
if not centuries

03:18:28.660 --> 03:18:32.000
to bring about what they then those want

03:18:32.000 --> 03:18:33.640
and sure as shit doesn't

03:18:33.640 --> 03:18:36.040
benefit me as an individual

03:18:36.040 --> 03:18:37.720
human being here in America

03:18:38.380 --> 03:18:40.320
how far off am I Andrew

03:18:40.320 --> 03:18:41.300
well let me

03:18:41.300 --> 03:18:43.380
let me give you a little twist here

03:18:44.140 --> 03:18:45.200
on this

03:18:46.040 --> 03:18:47.960
the good news is

03:18:47.960 --> 03:18:50.140
and there is a good news here

03:18:50.140 --> 03:18:51.400
is that

03:18:52.040 --> 03:18:53.680
this dispensational

03:18:53.680 --> 03:18:55.580
and Christian Zionism

03:18:56.140 --> 03:18:58.220
is not something that's going to

03:18:58.220 --> 03:18:59.440
last in my views

03:18:59.440 --> 03:19:02.140
that the foundations

03:19:02.140 --> 03:19:04.180
of dispensationalism

03:19:04.180 --> 03:19:05.840
were built on a

03:19:05.840 --> 03:19:06.380
false

03:19:06.380 --> 03:19:09.580
a false theology

03:19:09.600 --> 03:19:11.840
really you know a false

03:19:11.840 --> 03:19:12.600
foundation

03:19:12.600 --> 03:19:14.720
and that foundation

03:19:14.720 --> 03:19:17.660
is disintegrating because

03:19:17.660 --> 03:19:19.040
the seminaries

03:19:19.580 --> 03:19:21.260
that were created to

03:19:21.260 --> 03:19:22.480
disperse this

03:19:22.480 --> 03:19:24.660
and when you have seminaries

03:19:24.660 --> 03:19:26.700
and you're training theologians

03:19:26.700 --> 03:19:28.780
you have to have scholarly work

03:19:28.780 --> 03:19:31.000
and there's actually a book that

03:19:31.000 --> 03:19:32.060
I'm reading now

03:19:32.060 --> 03:19:35.400
it's called the rise and fall

03:19:35.400 --> 03:19:37.080
of dispensationalism

03:19:37.080 --> 03:19:39.540
this is by an author Daniel Hummel

03:19:39.540 --> 03:19:41.420
how the evangelical

03:19:41.420 --> 03:19:43.640
battles over the end times shaped a nation

03:19:43.640 --> 03:19:45.660
and it says scholarly work

03:19:47.040 --> 03:19:47.940
it's actually

03:19:48.480 --> 03:19:49.600
actually quite new

03:19:49.600 --> 03:19:50.480
it's a

03:19:51.200 --> 03:19:53.240
republished in I think 2023 on this

03:19:53.240 --> 03:19:55.580
paperback line I definitely

03:19:55.580 --> 03:19:57.720
recommend looking at it

03:19:57.720 --> 03:19:58.900
because it goes through an in-depth

03:19:58.900 --> 03:20:01.340
from the start to the end of

03:20:02.020 --> 03:20:02.980
dispensationalism but

03:20:03.420 --> 03:20:05.700
the thing is that he outlines is that

03:20:05.700 --> 03:20:07.520
there has been

03:20:07.520 --> 03:20:08.400
a rise of it

03:20:08.400 --> 03:20:11.300
and there is a fall

03:20:11.300 --> 03:20:13.540
to it that has already begun

03:20:13.540 --> 03:20:14.400
happening because

03:20:14.400 --> 03:20:16.820
in a lot of seminary schools

03:20:16.820 --> 03:20:18.640
where they teach theologians

03:20:18.640 --> 03:20:20.400
they are no longer teaching

03:20:21.300 --> 03:20:23.120
dispensational beliefs there

03:20:23.120 --> 03:20:24.840
they're no longer teaching that

03:20:24.840 --> 03:20:26.700
a lot of that has gone by the wayside

03:20:26.700 --> 03:20:29.260
and he documents and talks about

03:20:29.260 --> 03:20:31.720
how that how the scholarly

03:20:31.720 --> 03:20:33.440
work that used to

03:20:33.440 --> 03:20:35.040
support the school field bible

03:20:35.040 --> 03:20:36.460
the Zionist

03:20:37.400 --> 03:20:38.700
dispensational beliefs

03:20:39.340 --> 03:20:39.720
of

03:20:39.720 --> 03:20:40.900
is

03:20:41.560 --> 03:20:43.020
is not being taught

03:20:43.460 --> 03:20:44.580
and being

03:20:45.500 --> 03:20:47.480
is less and less influential

03:20:47.480 --> 03:20:49.680
in these schools because they're just

03:20:49.680 --> 03:20:51.900
not producing because it's been largely

03:20:51.900 --> 03:20:52.940
discredited

03:20:53.620 --> 03:20:55.320
in scholarly work

03:20:55.320 --> 03:20:57.300
what we're left with though

03:20:57.300 --> 03:20:59.160
is the entail

03:20:59.340 --> 03:20:59.760
the

03:20:59.760 --> 03:21:03.340
remnant which is the pop culture

03:21:03.340 --> 03:21:05.540
that's the left behind

03:21:05.540 --> 03:21:07.860
late great nation by Hal Lindsey

03:21:07.860 --> 03:21:09.480
those type of things

03:21:09.480 --> 03:21:11.540
those are in our media those are in the public

03:21:11.540 --> 03:21:13.780
psyche and mind

03:21:13.780 --> 03:21:15.520
but without the support

03:21:15.520 --> 03:21:17.360
of the strong

03:21:17.360 --> 03:21:19.520
the strong foundation that

03:21:19.520 --> 03:21:22.060
they tried to build during the moody

03:21:22.060 --> 03:21:23.720
movement and with

03:21:23.720 --> 03:21:25.540
John Nelson Darby

03:21:25.540 --> 03:21:27.380
and Sire Skollfield

03:21:27.380 --> 03:21:30.060
and others that

03:21:31.260 --> 03:21:32.100
trailblaze

03:21:32.100 --> 03:21:33.820
the dispensational movement

03:21:33.820 --> 03:21:36.080
now that that is

03:21:36.080 --> 03:21:37.060
fading

03:21:37.060 --> 03:21:39.360
and fading fast

03:21:39.960 --> 03:21:42.420
you know I don't know how long this is going to be around

03:21:42.420 --> 03:21:43.060
plus

03:21:43.060 --> 03:21:44.520
the fact that

03:21:46.400 --> 03:21:47.560
I believe that

03:21:48.080 --> 03:21:49.720
there's going to be an awakening

03:21:49.720 --> 03:21:52.100
to how blind

03:21:52.100 --> 03:21:54.100
they were you know for those that

03:21:54.100 --> 03:21:55.980
are hardcore dispensationalists today

03:21:55.980 --> 03:21:57.920
that I think that there were always

03:21:57.920 --> 03:22:00.360
there's always going to be probably some that are there

03:22:00.360 --> 03:22:01.900
you know shouting loudly

03:22:01.900 --> 03:22:03.780
but I think

03:22:03.780 --> 03:22:05.880
in time it's going to be largely discredited

03:22:06.340 --> 03:22:07.860
as one of those blips

03:22:07.860 --> 03:22:08.600
in history

03:22:08.600 --> 03:22:10.340
that happened

03:22:10.340 --> 03:22:13.000
that influenced the world in bad ways

03:22:13.740 --> 03:22:15.620
we're suffering the consequences

03:22:15.620 --> 03:22:17.760
right now the world is suffering the consequences

03:22:17.760 --> 03:22:19.560
of this to an extent

03:22:19.560 --> 03:22:21.860
you know through the support of America

03:22:21.860 --> 03:22:23.920
to support Israel's

03:22:23.920 --> 03:22:24.320
goals

03:22:25.020 --> 03:22:27.580
of greater Israel or whatever they

03:22:27.580 --> 03:22:28.920
whatever they're looking for

03:22:28.920 --> 03:22:30.920
and over there in Israel they got things

03:22:30.920 --> 03:22:33.140
they got problems not everyone's a Zionist

03:22:33.140 --> 03:22:34.440
Jew in Israel

03:22:34.440 --> 03:22:36.760
but that's a culture where

03:22:36.760 --> 03:22:37.880
people are indoctrinated

03:22:38.680 --> 03:22:40.600
through hate and through teaching

03:22:40.600 --> 03:22:42.120
their superiority

03:22:42.120 --> 03:22:44.000
of their

03:22:44.840 --> 03:22:45.480
their

03:22:45.480 --> 03:22:47.980
their Jewishness

03:22:47.980 --> 03:22:50.600
you know there's a lot of that over there

03:22:50.600 --> 03:22:51.500
so I mean they got

03:22:52.200 --> 03:22:54.400
it's almost like everything that they said

03:22:54.400 --> 03:22:56.820
about what Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany

03:22:56.820 --> 03:22:58.500
was and how Nazi Germany

03:22:58.500 --> 03:23:01.360
you know taught the supreme man

03:23:01.360 --> 03:23:02.220
and all that stuff

03:23:02.220 --> 03:23:04.760
you know it's like that's what's going on over there

03:23:04.760 --> 03:23:05.760
but only in their

03:23:06.500 --> 03:23:07.780
with their theology

03:23:08.240 --> 03:23:08.520
their

03:23:10.600 --> 03:23:12.860
I guess their political Zionism

03:23:12.860 --> 03:23:14.400
and stuff teaching themselves that

03:23:14.400 --> 03:23:15.300
both of them

03:23:15.300 --> 03:23:18.240
that's going to have to come to the end but we

03:23:18.240 --> 03:23:19.600
you know

03:23:20.520 --> 03:23:22.780
there's still time to pull the plug

03:23:22.780 --> 03:23:23.720
on that support

03:23:23.720 --> 03:23:25.280
to change the ship

03:23:25.280 --> 03:23:27.680
but I think it's starting now

03:23:27.680 --> 03:23:29.380
let's go ahead and wrap it up

03:23:29.380 --> 03:23:30.560
I got to get going but

03:23:30.560 --> 03:23:33.080
I do want to bring attention to

03:23:33.080 --> 03:23:34.900
one of the top stories

03:23:34.900 --> 03:23:36.600
I'm famous in Phoenix right now

03:23:36.600 --> 03:23:38.920
just a minute I'll give it to you

03:23:38.920 --> 03:23:40.480
the top stories

03:23:41.080 --> 03:23:43.240
is by Chuck Baldwin

03:23:43.240 --> 03:23:44.980
the pastor we all know

03:23:44.980 --> 03:23:47.360
Christianity is not the Christianity

03:23:48.500 --> 03:23:49.780
of the Bible

03:23:49.780 --> 03:23:51.680
Pete Hegs says Christianity

03:23:51.680 --> 03:23:53.720
and what he's going on about

03:23:53.720 --> 03:23:55.520
a lot of the things that the secretary

03:23:55.520 --> 03:23:57.900
of war was saying kill kill kill

03:23:57.900 --> 03:23:59.540
and the righteous indignation of

03:23:59.540 --> 03:24:01.400
kill kill and we're going to do some killing

03:24:01.400 --> 03:24:02.980
and divine providence

03:24:02.980 --> 03:24:04.800
and God said and go kill

03:24:04.800 --> 03:24:07.300
and a lot of the stuff that he was saying

03:24:07.300 --> 03:24:08.980
and what you were just saying

03:24:08.980 --> 03:24:10.280
it's starting to go away

03:24:10.280 --> 03:24:12.860
and this is what pastor Baldwin

03:24:12.860 --> 03:24:14.000
has been

03:24:15.140 --> 03:24:16.840
advocating he's saying look man

03:24:16.840 --> 03:24:19.220
this is going by the wayside

03:24:19.220 --> 03:24:21.260
this choice

03:24:21.260 --> 03:24:22.740
this advocacy

03:24:23.260 --> 03:24:25.440
this final pull in the trigger

03:24:25.440 --> 03:24:26.840
of we going to have us

03:24:26.840 --> 03:24:28.820
a nuclear mushroom cloud

03:24:28.820 --> 03:24:30.080
is

03:24:30.960 --> 03:24:33.040
not as supported as they

03:24:33.040 --> 03:24:34.980
thought but that's why

03:24:34.980 --> 03:24:37.620
Israelis are buying up all the media

03:24:37.620 --> 03:24:38.780
and tick tock

03:24:38.780 --> 03:24:41.300
and CBS and Paramount and whatever

03:24:41.300 --> 03:24:43.200
you're going to see all the movies

03:24:43.200 --> 03:24:44.760
I mean here it comes

03:24:44.760 --> 03:24:47.420
and I think it's going to be

03:24:47.420 --> 03:24:49.320
what you're saying

03:24:49.320 --> 03:24:51.720
it's a disintegration of this

03:24:51.720 --> 03:24:53.580
as many of us

03:24:53.580 --> 03:24:55.240
as activists with the Christian

03:24:55.240 --> 03:24:56.120
Zionism

03:24:56.120 --> 03:24:58.980
book and the movie

03:24:58.980 --> 03:25:00.400
that we were part of

03:25:00.400 --> 03:25:02.840
all this stuff is building up

03:25:02.840 --> 03:25:05.200
which is why they're attacked so much

03:25:05.200 --> 03:25:07.080
because it's a splinter

03:25:07.080 --> 03:25:08.680
in our mind

03:25:08.680 --> 03:25:11.420
of uncovering the secrets and exposing the lies

03:25:11.420 --> 03:25:13.160
that we're looking at and going

03:25:13.160 --> 03:25:14.780
this is not

03:25:15.080 --> 03:25:17.420
good it's not even Christian

03:25:17.420 --> 03:25:19.240
it's not even Jewish

03:25:19.240 --> 03:25:21.340
this is they make this crap

03:25:21.340 --> 03:25:23.020
up as they go along

03:25:23.020 --> 03:25:25.400
so I am of the

03:25:25.400 --> 03:25:27.060
opinion that this

03:25:27.060 --> 03:25:29.380
is hopefully we can

03:25:29.380 --> 03:25:31.460
avoid a thermonuclear war

03:25:31.460 --> 03:25:33.000
but I think

03:25:33.000 --> 03:25:35.020
they don't get what they want now

03:25:35.020 --> 03:25:37.240
it's going to be a long time

03:25:37.240 --> 03:25:39.340
before they get another crack at it

03:25:39.340 --> 03:25:41.460
and I feel desperation

03:25:42.300 --> 03:25:43.660
that's what I'm worried about

03:25:43.660 --> 03:25:45.500
I wholeheartedly agree

03:25:45.500 --> 03:25:47.700
the theme we talked today

03:25:47.700 --> 03:25:49.400
is the desperation

03:25:49.400 --> 03:25:51.760
of the Israeli government

03:25:51.760 --> 03:25:53.720
the desperation of Donald Trump

03:25:53.720 --> 03:25:55.920
there's desperation of the deep state

03:25:55.920 --> 03:25:57.940
I mean the control over

03:25:57.940 --> 03:25:59.420
the media that they're losing

03:25:59.420 --> 03:26:01.000
as the new media

03:26:01.300 --> 03:26:03.380
they can't suppress the war drums

03:26:03.380 --> 03:26:05.400
like they have before on all fronts

03:26:05.400 --> 03:26:07.240
I'm sure there's a bank thing involved in there somewhere

03:26:08.780 --> 03:26:09.580
what's that?

03:26:10.200 --> 03:26:11.900
I'm sure there's a bank thing

03:26:11.900 --> 03:26:12.980
it's always about the money

03:26:12.980 --> 03:26:14.780
yeah I agree

03:26:14.780 --> 03:26:17.080
so Andrew

03:26:17.080 --> 03:26:19.780
I have a couple of quick questions

03:26:19.780 --> 03:26:20.320
for you

03:26:20.320 --> 03:26:22.620
but before I do I have to just say

03:26:22.620 --> 03:26:24.500
I'm surprised Ernie hasn't brought it up yet

03:26:24.500 --> 03:26:27.260
we're talking about apocalyptic eschatology

03:26:27.260 --> 03:26:29.320
for a whole hour

03:26:29.320 --> 03:26:31.460
and you happen for all reasons

03:26:31.460 --> 03:26:32.200
I don't know

03:26:32.200 --> 03:26:35.180
a mushroom cloud nuked behind you

03:26:35.180 --> 03:26:37.340
is that just like your foreshadowing

03:26:37.340 --> 03:26:37.780
or what?

03:26:38.260 --> 03:26:40.920
yeah that's kind of

03:26:40.920 --> 03:26:41.360
what we're here

03:26:41.360 --> 03:26:44.040
that's where all this can lead to

03:26:44.040 --> 03:26:45.740
God willing it doesn't

03:26:45.740 --> 03:26:46.960
but this

03:26:49.720 --> 03:26:50.280
apocalyptic

03:26:50.680 --> 03:26:51.660
or this

03:26:52.340 --> 03:26:53.960
there's a better term for it

03:26:53.960 --> 03:26:55.060
but it's just basically

03:26:55.060 --> 03:26:57.900
when you're in the mindset that

03:26:58.820 --> 03:27:00.220
you're leading to

03:27:00.220 --> 03:27:02.780
that this has to happen

03:27:03.800 --> 03:27:04.800
type of thing

03:27:04.800 --> 03:27:06.620
for God to come back

03:27:06.620 --> 03:27:08.380
we have to have these big conflicts

03:27:08.380 --> 03:27:10.080
all these things have to lead up to it

03:27:10.080 --> 03:27:12.260
we become a self-fulfilling prophecy

03:27:12.260 --> 03:27:14.160
and we should keep this in mind

03:27:14.160 --> 03:27:15.520
behind my head that

03:27:15.520 --> 03:27:17.120
this is a

03:27:17.760 --> 03:27:19.920
this is a real thing

03:27:19.920 --> 03:27:20.640
they're building to

03:27:21.400 --> 03:27:23.300
if they want it to happen

03:27:23.300 --> 03:27:25.800
we need a new world order to prevent this

03:27:25.800 --> 03:27:27.200
that we allowed it to happen from happening

03:27:29.040 --> 03:27:30.300
it's funny it's ironic

03:27:30.300 --> 03:27:31.800
because I have a couple of friends

03:27:31.800 --> 03:27:32.240
who are

03:27:33.060 --> 03:27:35.800
in the Christian Zionist movement

03:27:35.800 --> 03:27:37.300
which I didn't understand

03:27:37.300 --> 03:27:38.860
they were in that at the time

03:27:38.860 --> 03:27:40.880
and they're all talking about the end times

03:27:40.880 --> 03:27:42.900
and of course there's going to be a war over

03:27:42.900 --> 03:27:44.020
Israel and all of this

03:27:44.020 --> 03:27:45.700
and then the irony is

03:27:45.700 --> 03:27:47.640
it's like you create your own prophecy

03:27:47.640 --> 03:27:49.040
because it's the very second

03:27:49.660 --> 03:27:51.940
it's these very Zionists that are doing this

03:27:51.940 --> 03:27:53.680
that are attacking Iran

03:27:53.680 --> 03:27:55.540
and creating World War 3

03:27:55.540 --> 03:27:57.820
and it's like well there's your end times

03:27:57.820 --> 03:27:58.700
you're creating it

03:28:01.500 --> 03:28:02.980
and that gets to

03:28:04.100 --> 03:28:04.600
it's like

03:28:04.600 --> 03:28:06.820
from my point of view

03:28:06.820 --> 03:28:07.520
it's like a deep

03:28:09.000 --> 03:28:09.400
embarrassment

03:28:09.400 --> 03:28:12.500
and it's a shock and it's sort of

03:28:12.500 --> 03:28:14.020
one of these moments where

03:28:14.020 --> 03:28:16.040
for a lot of people they have

03:28:16.580 --> 03:28:18.700
the awareness that the media lies to them

03:28:18.700 --> 03:28:20.120
or Dr. Fauci might not be

03:28:20.620 --> 03:28:22.360
on your side that sort of thing

03:28:22.360 --> 03:28:23.900
most of us in this audience

03:28:23.900 --> 03:28:25.100
we're already kind of grasped it

03:28:25.100 --> 03:28:27.780
but trust me we all still have our own awakenings

03:28:27.780 --> 03:28:29.080
and this was one of them for me

03:28:29.080 --> 03:28:31.340
and it's shocking and almost embarrassing

03:28:31.340 --> 03:28:32.760
as an American with

03:28:32.760 --> 03:28:35.440
the first amendment

03:28:35.440 --> 03:28:37.020
as far as at least

03:28:37.020 --> 03:28:39.060
the way it's interpreted not to have religion

03:28:39.640 --> 03:28:41.140
separation church and state

03:28:41.140 --> 03:28:43.220
which is the whole thing in itself

03:28:43.220 --> 03:28:45.260
how is it in the year 2026

03:28:45.260 --> 03:28:47.140
with decades of

03:28:47.140 --> 03:28:49.280
getting the religion out of the schools

03:28:49.280 --> 03:28:50.980
whether you think that's a good or bad thing

03:28:50.980 --> 03:28:52.520
we can debate that whole

03:28:52.520 --> 03:28:53.840
that's a whole separate conversation

03:28:53.840 --> 03:28:56.420
but at the end of the day here we are

03:28:56.420 --> 03:28:58.800
with possible World War 3

03:28:58.800 --> 03:29:00.540
that's a religious war

03:29:00.540 --> 03:29:02.480
with America of all things

03:29:02.480 --> 03:29:04.000
like America, it's like

03:29:04.000 --> 03:29:06.620
where did this come from the America that

03:29:06.620 --> 03:29:08.500
I mean there's a lot of reasons

03:29:08.500 --> 03:29:10.540
to have wars over oil and the petrodollar

03:29:10.540 --> 03:29:12.880
whatever I never thought in the world

03:29:12.880 --> 03:29:15.140
it would wind up in a religious war

03:29:15.140 --> 03:29:16.600
like we're back in the 12th century

03:29:16.600 --> 03:29:18.540
and that is such a shock

03:29:18.540 --> 03:29:20.500
or at least I will admit for myself

03:29:20.500 --> 03:29:21.880
I'm sure a lot of this audience

03:29:21.880 --> 03:29:23.700
the question I have for you though is

03:29:23.700 --> 03:29:25.380
where do you like

03:29:25.380 --> 03:29:27.380
I can see a fight with

03:29:27.380 --> 03:29:29.620
you know, Trump versus the Democrats

03:29:29.620 --> 03:29:31.840
or the establishment non-establishment

03:29:31.840 --> 03:29:33.800
or the X

03:29:33.800 --> 03:29:35.340
MAGA versus the new

03:29:35.340 --> 03:29:37.240
Lindsey Graham pseudo MAGA

03:29:37.240 --> 03:29:39.600
or if you heard me say earlier

03:29:39.600 --> 03:29:41.560
Donald Trump is not MAGA anymore

03:29:41.560 --> 03:29:43.880
because America is great now so he's already done

03:29:43.880 --> 03:29:45.760
but the question is

03:29:45.760 --> 03:29:47.860
is there a fight that I don't know

03:29:47.860 --> 03:29:49.160
about amongst

03:29:49.900 --> 03:29:51.800
the religious community

03:29:51.800 --> 03:29:54.160
in other words if 15

03:29:54.160 --> 03:29:55.740
20% are

03:29:55.740 --> 03:29:57.380
these Zionist Christians

03:29:57.380 --> 03:29:59.340
and they definitely have

03:29:59.340 --> 03:30:01.120
just an over

03:30:01.800 --> 03:30:03.680
weighted influence in our

03:30:03.680 --> 03:30:05.360
government and that's

03:30:05.360 --> 03:30:07.080
part of the religious front, a religious

03:30:07.920 --> 03:30:09.280
infighting is not

03:30:09.800 --> 03:30:11.140
my world, I mean I know the

03:30:11.630 --> 03:30:13.220
Protestants versus Catholics

03:30:13.220 --> 03:30:14.840
Christians versus the sect

03:30:14.840 --> 03:30:17.040
is there a push or unification

03:30:17.040 --> 03:30:19.020
anyway that you're seeing

03:30:19.020 --> 03:30:21.020
of Christians

03:30:21.020 --> 03:30:22.520
Protestants maybe even

03:30:22.520 --> 03:30:25.460
an aggregate of maybe even Mormons

03:30:25.460 --> 03:30:26.960
people looking at this

03:30:26.960 --> 03:30:28.980
as it's, we may not

03:30:28.980 --> 03:30:30.960
all agree on the same with the doctrine

03:30:30.960 --> 03:30:32.900
but the Zionists

03:30:32.900 --> 03:30:34.960
they're sitting with their finger on the

03:30:34.960 --> 03:30:37.220
button over their interpretation of lying

03:30:37.220 --> 03:30:38.160
sex or something

03:30:38.160 --> 03:30:41.440
is there an inside amongst religious people

03:30:41.440 --> 03:30:43.260
fight or push back

03:30:43.260 --> 03:30:45.080
or no, is it just

03:30:45.080 --> 03:30:45.920
simply political?

03:30:45.920 --> 03:30:47.900
Yeah, so because of the

03:30:49.580 --> 03:30:50.780
because this

03:30:51.940 --> 03:30:53.540
this systemized

03:30:53.540 --> 03:30:55.700
theology and eschatology

03:30:55.700 --> 03:30:58.180
has transcended

03:30:58.180 --> 03:31:01.180
from the Christian world

03:31:01.180 --> 03:31:03.840
to just a view that most

03:31:03.840 --> 03:31:06.040
people in society all hold in general

03:31:06.040 --> 03:31:07.480
I feel like

03:31:07.480 --> 03:31:08.760
it's slowly

03:31:09.560 --> 03:31:11.860
moving in the Christian community

03:31:11.860 --> 03:31:14.120
like you got people like Chuck Baldwin

03:31:14.840 --> 03:31:15.960
great, you know

03:31:15.960 --> 03:31:18.040
but why aren't there more Chuck Baldwin's

03:31:18.040 --> 03:31:20.540
why aren't there more pastors out there talking about this

03:31:20.540 --> 03:31:22.080
some of it's the

03:31:22.080 --> 03:31:23.480
view of the place of the church

03:31:23.990 --> 03:31:25.520
within some churches

03:31:27.840 --> 03:31:29.800
just to focus like

03:31:29.800 --> 03:31:31.920
at church more on the majors

03:31:31.920 --> 03:31:34.020
of the Bible not so much

03:31:34.020 --> 03:31:35.600
these hot topics

03:31:36.600 --> 03:31:38.260
not wanting to

03:31:38.260 --> 03:31:39.700
maybe rock the boat

03:31:39.700 --> 03:31:41.860
or get into very divisive

03:31:41.860 --> 03:31:43.060
stuff so they

03:31:43.580 --> 03:31:44.900
kind of bow out of it

03:31:44.900 --> 03:31:47.540
but also maybe in part because

03:31:48.660 --> 03:31:49.580
they're

03:31:50.660 --> 03:31:51.580
worldviews

03:31:51.580 --> 03:31:53.620
apart from the Bible their biblical

03:31:53.620 --> 03:31:54.080
views

03:31:54.080 --> 03:31:57.620
have also been shaped in some

03:31:57.620 --> 03:31:58.280
pop

03:31:59.480 --> 03:32:01.100
popular capacity

03:32:01.800 --> 03:32:02.260
from

03:32:02.260 --> 03:32:04.800
looking at Russia

03:32:04.800 --> 03:32:07.020
as eternally

03:32:07.020 --> 03:32:08.100
the enemy

03:32:08.100 --> 03:32:10.000
right looking at

03:32:10.000 --> 03:32:12.180
Iran and things like that

03:32:12.180 --> 03:32:14.220
in other countries in Syria as the

03:32:14.220 --> 03:32:16.140
enemy because these things have played

03:32:16.140 --> 03:32:18.100
themselves in a geopolitical

03:32:18.720 --> 03:32:19.080
view

03:32:19.080 --> 03:32:21.960
but it's informed that geopolitical view

03:32:21.960 --> 03:32:23.600
I believe is it formed by

03:32:24.560 --> 03:32:25.920
this you know what

03:32:25.920 --> 03:32:27.380
was the dispensational

03:32:27.880 --> 03:32:29.480
view of the world and stuff

03:32:30.160 --> 03:32:31.700
very informed by that

03:32:31.700 --> 03:32:33.880
and that's a hard thing

03:32:33.880 --> 03:32:36.020
you know because people might not

03:32:36.020 --> 03:32:38.120
agree with all the dispensational

03:32:38.120 --> 03:32:39.420
stuff but they may still

03:32:40.020 --> 03:32:41.960
kind of view these countries over there

03:32:41.960 --> 03:32:44.120
just you know through politics and watching the news

03:32:44.120 --> 03:32:45.500
kind of being brainwashing stuff

03:32:45.500 --> 03:32:47.880
as the enemy so it's like why even speak up

03:32:47.880 --> 03:32:49.300
if they're the baddies over there

03:32:49.300 --> 03:32:50.800
you know then

03:32:51.460 --> 03:32:53.240
you know there's not going to be

03:32:53.240 --> 03:32:56.020
a lot of talk even outside the church

03:32:56.020 --> 03:32:56.460
of that

03:32:56.460 --> 03:32:59.060
but I do find hope because

03:32:59.060 --> 03:33:00.300
in the media

03:33:01.100 --> 03:33:03.260
unlike 20 years ago 30 years from

03:33:03.260 --> 03:33:04.140
ago 40 years ago

03:33:04.700 --> 03:33:07.080
we didn't talk you know no one hardly

03:33:07.080 --> 03:33:08.800
talked I mean there were people that talked about

03:33:08.800 --> 03:33:10.780
is you know Zionism

03:33:10.780 --> 03:33:12.260
and stuff and the problem with

03:33:12.260 --> 03:33:13.620
the problem that

03:33:14.520 --> 03:33:16.380
Zionist Jews are causing in the world

03:33:16.380 --> 03:33:17.820
was back then

03:33:18.380 --> 03:33:20.780
like very hush hush you couldn't talk about

03:33:20.780 --> 03:33:22.500
because if you were you were anti-Semite

03:33:22.500 --> 03:33:24.680
and not very many people were brave enough

03:33:24.680 --> 03:33:26.100
to go out there and talk about it

03:33:27.380 --> 03:33:28.740
and now today

03:33:29.260 --> 03:33:29.820
you know

03:33:29.820 --> 03:33:32.200
it is exploded

03:33:32.200 --> 03:33:34.100
where every single

03:33:34.100 --> 03:33:35.700
podcaster every single

03:33:35.700 --> 03:33:37.900
commentator out there is all

03:33:37.900 --> 03:33:38.680
doing their

03:33:39.600 --> 03:33:41.760
you know their commentary on this

03:33:41.760 --> 03:33:43.840
very issue and

03:33:43.840 --> 03:33:45.280
you know even though

03:33:45.960 --> 03:33:47.400
there's a tax from the

03:33:47.400 --> 03:33:50.020
from the sides that would not want us

03:33:50.020 --> 03:33:50.720
to talk about

03:33:51.500 --> 03:33:53.100
Zionism and Jews and

03:33:53.520 --> 03:33:55.380
Israel and all the stuff

03:33:55.380 --> 03:33:56.560
and trying to silence us

03:33:57.340 --> 03:33:58.340
just go out there

03:33:58.340 --> 03:34:00.400
this has become popularized

03:34:00.400 --> 03:34:02.400
it's not acceptable to talk about that's a very

03:34:02.400 --> 03:34:04.260
positive thing we're having a conversation

03:34:04.260 --> 03:34:06.580
in the alternative media

03:34:06.580 --> 03:34:08.540
sphere like no other

03:34:08.540 --> 03:34:10.660
not even before not even

03:34:10.660 --> 03:34:12.040
you know back in

03:34:13.400 --> 03:34:14.440
2008 yeah

03:34:14.440 --> 03:34:16.100
we made

03:34:16.960 --> 03:34:18.160
DVDs and stuff on Christian

03:34:18.160 --> 03:34:20.380
Zionism and stuff but it was still

03:34:20.380 --> 03:34:22.300
like a very you know even

03:34:22.300 --> 03:34:24.380
within it is very hard like

03:34:24.380 --> 03:34:25.840
there was a lot of passion it's like

03:34:26.160 --> 03:34:27.160
okay well

03:34:28.240 --> 03:34:29.740
let you know

03:34:30.680 --> 03:34:32.260
a lot there was

03:34:32.260 --> 03:34:34.540
few people that were very passionate about it

03:34:34.540 --> 03:34:36.300
and some people less passionate

03:34:36.300 --> 03:34:38.280
about it a lot of people want to keep focused on the

03:34:38.280 --> 03:34:39.940
politics of the geopolitics

03:34:39.940 --> 03:34:42.220
and other issues

03:34:42.220 --> 03:34:42.820
and stuff

03:34:53.420 --> 03:34:54.300
yeah he cut

03:34:54.960 --> 03:34:55.800
go ahead

03:34:56.560 --> 03:34:57.980
no I mean he cut out

03:34:57.980 --> 03:34:59.960
oh there he is

03:34:59.960 --> 03:35:01.240
okay yeah

03:35:01.240 --> 03:35:02.080
the um

03:35:03.240 --> 03:35:04.200
there was

03:35:04.200 --> 03:35:07.540
yeah we could go on and on but I want to wrap it up

03:35:07.540 --> 03:35:09.100
there was a

03:35:09.780 --> 03:35:10.100
um

03:35:10.800 --> 03:35:12.020
Pastor Dixon

03:35:12.020 --> 03:35:14.980
and I don't know if you guys remember him

03:35:14.980 --> 03:35:17.220
but Pastor Dixon used to write for

03:35:17.220 --> 03:35:18.680
Friems Phoenix quite a bit

03:35:18.680 --> 03:35:20.880
now he was the pastor

03:35:20.880 --> 03:35:23.440
of uh Indianapolis

03:35:23.960 --> 03:35:24.620
uh

03:35:24.620 --> 03:35:26.180
Baptist Church

03:35:26.180 --> 03:35:28.220
now what happens

03:35:28.220 --> 03:35:30.100
the IRS went after them

03:35:30.100 --> 03:35:31.620
because they were like

03:35:31.620 --> 03:35:33.920
look we're not you know paying

03:35:33.920 --> 03:35:35.960
people give us contributions

03:35:35.960 --> 03:35:37.740
you know they're tithing

03:35:37.740 --> 03:35:40.000
and then we pay church staff with that

03:35:40.000 --> 03:35:42.080
then you want to tax tithing

03:35:42.080 --> 03:35:43.780
that we pay our employee

03:35:43.780 --> 03:35:45.640
we're challenging that

03:35:46.170 --> 03:35:47.560
well what really got them

03:35:48.180 --> 03:35:49.420
to the attention of the man

03:35:49.420 --> 03:35:52.460
which they eventually bulldozed their church

03:35:52.460 --> 03:35:53.900
and the remaining

03:35:53.900 --> 03:35:55.860
buildings that were part of their

03:35:55.860 --> 03:35:58.000
school they turned it into a public

03:35:58.000 --> 03:36:00.200
school just to twist a knife

03:36:00.200 --> 03:36:01.980
because this is what we're dealing with

03:36:01.980 --> 03:36:03.920
evil and what

03:36:03.920 --> 03:36:05.940
happened was it was home schooling

03:36:05.940 --> 03:36:07.640
and alternative education

03:36:07.640 --> 03:36:09.940
and schools and so on that were in

03:36:09.940 --> 03:36:11.600
Texas that they were helping with

03:36:11.600 --> 03:36:14.020
and that was what got them on the radar

03:36:15.080 --> 03:36:15.940
well he wrote

03:36:15.940 --> 03:36:18.140
a book and the main thing came down to this

03:36:19.360 --> 03:36:19.880
when

03:36:19.880 --> 03:36:20.640
you say

03:36:20.640 --> 03:36:22.640
is there any pushback

03:36:22.640 --> 03:36:23.560
on these churches

03:36:24.420 --> 03:36:26.480
you know is there any pushback

03:36:26.480 --> 03:36:27.680
of these different denominations

03:36:27.680 --> 03:36:30.240
any pushback at all yes there is

03:36:30.240 --> 03:36:32.160
and man they go after you

03:36:32.160 --> 03:36:34.000
well what happened was

03:36:34.340 --> 03:36:36.140
they had a lot of people

03:36:36.140 --> 03:36:37.680
certainly after the

03:36:37.680 --> 03:36:39.220
first Iraq war

03:36:39.220 --> 03:36:40.880
daddy bushes war

03:36:40.880 --> 03:36:43.640
there was a lot of denominational

03:36:43.640 --> 03:36:45.300
non-denominational churches

03:36:45.300 --> 03:36:47.460
when we would go around and speak

03:36:47.460 --> 03:36:49.000
as libertarian candidates

03:36:49.000 --> 03:36:50.140
we'd go to different churches

03:36:50.140 --> 03:36:52.020
some of them a lot of people

03:36:52.020 --> 03:36:53.940
the candidates wouldn't go

03:36:53.940 --> 03:36:56.400
they were dubbed as anti-semitic

03:36:56.400 --> 03:36:58.900
or they wouldn't officially recognize IRS

03:36:58.900 --> 03:37:00.160
or some crap like that

03:37:00.160 --> 03:37:03.080
we would go and speak to these congregations

03:37:03.080 --> 03:37:03.980
all over the state

03:37:03.980 --> 03:37:06.140
there was a lot of them

03:37:06.140 --> 03:37:07.980
and what happened was it was

03:37:07.980 --> 03:37:10.100
exactly what you're talking about Frank

03:37:10.100 --> 03:37:11.800
it was this opposition

03:37:11.800 --> 03:37:14.400
to how the church had been used

03:37:14.400 --> 03:37:15.400
and what was changing

03:37:15.400 --> 03:37:18.340
which is why pastor Chuck Baldwin

03:37:18.340 --> 03:37:20.200
moved his congregation

03:37:20.200 --> 03:37:22.200
whoever went with him quite a bit

03:37:22.200 --> 03:37:23.740
as a matter of fact from Florida

03:37:23.740 --> 03:37:24.540
to Montana

03:37:25.320 --> 03:37:28.060
well this has been my experience

03:37:28.060 --> 03:37:30.580
in you know as we were looking for another church

03:37:30.580 --> 03:37:31.940
that wasn't you know

03:37:31.940 --> 03:37:33.060
bomb all the Muslims

03:37:33.060 --> 03:37:35.900
we got to kill kill kill just war doctrine

03:37:35.900 --> 03:37:37.860
we're with Israel always

03:37:37.860 --> 03:37:39.500
and forever and all this kind of

03:37:39.500 --> 03:37:41.720
non-christian sure as shit

03:37:41.720 --> 03:37:43.460
not what I believe and brought

03:37:43.460 --> 03:37:44.500
my children up as

03:37:44.500 --> 03:37:48.120
so there has been a lot of opposition

03:37:48.700 --> 03:37:49.600
when they went

03:37:49.600 --> 03:37:51.100
non-denominational

03:37:51.100 --> 03:37:53.400
Greg Dixon this is what the pastor realized

03:37:53.400 --> 03:37:54.680
he wrote a book about it

03:37:54.680 --> 03:37:56.840
and he came there as a breakfast club

03:37:56.840 --> 03:37:58.320
we've had him on shows

03:37:58.320 --> 03:38:00.300
and this is what it came down to

03:38:01.420 --> 03:38:02.700
when you separate

03:38:02.700 --> 03:38:04.660
and you say you know I'm non-denominational

03:38:04.660 --> 03:38:06.340
I'm not with IRS

03:38:06.340 --> 03:38:07.940
we're not organizing

03:38:07.940 --> 03:38:09.560
ourselves as a corporation

03:38:09.560 --> 03:38:11.680
you kind of give

03:38:11.680 --> 03:38:13.640
we're just individuals

03:38:13.640 --> 03:38:14.860
meeting and peace out

03:38:14.860 --> 03:38:16.620
and we do what we want and we're not

03:38:16.620 --> 03:38:18.360
with your program

03:38:19.560 --> 03:38:21.300
the IRS came back

03:38:21.300 --> 03:38:23.260
and said doesn't matter

03:38:23.940 --> 03:38:26.200
if you have more than two people

03:38:26.200 --> 03:38:27.980
you know like in the Bible it says

03:38:27.980 --> 03:38:29.420
you stack two stones

03:38:29.420 --> 03:38:31.180
you split a piece of wood boom

03:38:31.180 --> 03:38:32.740
you created a church there I am

03:38:32.740 --> 03:38:35.380
well they go you are

03:38:35.380 --> 03:38:37.840
under control of the IRS

03:38:37.840 --> 03:38:39.580
just by believing

03:38:39.580 --> 03:38:40.940
in God and meeting about it

03:38:42.280 --> 03:38:43.500
because we said

03:38:44.280 --> 03:38:45.320
so all these

03:38:45.320 --> 03:38:46.780
non-denominational things

03:38:47.300 --> 03:38:48.660
thinking that they were

03:38:48.660 --> 03:38:50.700
insulating themselves from this

03:38:51.080 --> 03:38:53.220
Pastor Dixon would go yeah you think so

03:38:53.220 --> 03:38:55.380
well let me show you the court case

03:38:55.380 --> 03:38:57.660
and then they came with bulldozers

03:38:57.660 --> 03:38:59.240
and bulldoze

03:38:59.240 --> 03:38:59.980
the church

03:38:59.980 --> 03:39:02.000
and this was as

03:39:03.060 --> 03:39:04.200
congregation members

03:39:04.580 --> 03:39:06.380
locked arms standing out

03:39:06.380 --> 03:39:07.600
in front of the church or whatever

03:39:07.600 --> 03:39:09.540
physically removing bulldoze

03:39:09.540 --> 03:39:12.580
this is how bad it is

03:39:12.580 --> 03:39:14.380
if you do not

03:39:14.380 --> 03:39:16.000
support the

03:39:16.000 --> 03:39:18.120
the edicts

03:39:18.120 --> 03:39:19.800
the doctrine the law

03:39:19.800 --> 03:39:22.100
however they just IRS just writes it

03:39:22.100 --> 03:39:24.220
then you are under the gun

03:39:24.220 --> 03:39:25.440
and this is why

03:39:25.860 --> 03:39:28.300
you don't see a lot of open

03:39:28.300 --> 03:39:28.840
dissent

03:39:28.840 --> 03:39:30.540
this is why

03:39:30.540 --> 03:39:32.080
there isn't you know

03:39:32.080 --> 03:39:34.140
we be the church of not doing it

03:39:34.140 --> 03:39:36.600
and you get like the Lutherans

03:39:36.600 --> 03:39:38.260
all of a sudden we got

03:39:38.760 --> 03:39:40.520
gay female pastors of

03:39:40.520 --> 03:39:41.160
whatever

03:39:42.000 --> 03:39:43.640
they got a shave off their mustache

03:39:43.640 --> 03:39:46.400
it is amazing

03:39:46.400 --> 03:39:49.160
what we have been putting up with

03:39:49.160 --> 03:39:50.800
but it is coming to a head

03:39:50.800 --> 03:39:52.640
and we are seeing it happen

03:39:52.640 --> 03:39:54.800
in countries like the united kingdom

03:39:55.540 --> 03:39:56.100
and

03:39:56.100 --> 03:39:58.140
in countries like hungry

03:39:58.140 --> 03:40:00.420
where they are pushing back on this stuff

03:40:00.420 --> 03:40:01.580
so you have

03:40:01.910 --> 03:40:04.120
people that are seen as more orthodox

03:40:04.120 --> 03:40:06.660
Christians and oh my god it is Russia

03:40:06.660 --> 03:40:07.820
so

03:40:07.820 --> 03:40:10.480
this is coming to a head

03:40:10.480 --> 03:40:12.340
and this war in Iran

03:40:13.360 --> 03:40:14.840
is either going to

03:40:14.840 --> 03:40:15.780
end in a mushroom

03:40:15.780 --> 03:40:18.480
clouds and Israel rules the planet

03:40:18.480 --> 03:40:19.040
or something

03:40:19.910 --> 03:40:20.780
or not

03:40:21.830 --> 03:40:23.880
I am thinking that

03:40:23.880 --> 03:40:25.120
no matter what happens

03:40:25.120 --> 03:40:27.480
if Zionist Christians

03:40:27.480 --> 03:40:29.380
or Zionism or Israel

03:40:29.380 --> 03:40:30.500
they get what they want

03:40:30.500 --> 03:40:32.320
it is not going to stick

03:40:33.590 --> 03:40:35.740
because they really

03:40:35.740 --> 03:40:37.140
believe in their own press

03:40:37.140 --> 03:40:38.900
and who is their front guy

03:40:38.900 --> 03:40:40.240
Ben Shapiro

03:40:40.240 --> 03:40:41.760
seriously that is your A game

03:40:41.760 --> 03:40:44.340
so this is why

03:40:45.610 --> 03:40:46.400
I have been

03:40:46.400 --> 03:40:48.400
kind of in and around this

03:40:48.400 --> 03:40:50.600
as activists lend my support

03:40:50.600 --> 03:40:52.280
for just truth justice

03:40:52.280 --> 03:40:53.480
murkham way

03:40:54.380 --> 03:40:55.820
and it has been

03:40:56.340 --> 03:40:58.220
obvious that we are up against something

03:40:58.220 --> 03:41:00.020
and a lot of it

03:41:00.020 --> 03:41:01.860
has to do with what you are seeing

03:41:02.480 --> 03:41:03.360
right now

03:41:03.360 --> 03:41:04.900
with Netanyahu

03:41:05.520 --> 03:41:07.220
trying to cover his own ass

03:41:07.220 --> 03:41:10.260
and all of this

03:41:10.260 --> 03:41:12.080
that is going on has been

03:41:12.080 --> 03:41:14.080
due to the infiltration in our own

03:41:14.080 --> 03:41:14.460
government

03:41:14.460 --> 03:41:17.540
in our own popularized culture

03:41:17.540 --> 03:41:18.820
and in

03:41:19.210 --> 03:41:20.620
the church itself

03:41:20.620 --> 03:41:21.580
and the leadership

03:41:21.580 --> 03:41:23.460
it is going to take

03:41:23.460 --> 03:41:25.760
a reformation

03:41:25.760 --> 03:41:27.900
it is going to take a revolution

03:41:27.900 --> 03:41:30.020
in christianity

03:41:30.020 --> 03:41:31.300
and thought and individuals

03:41:31.300 --> 03:41:34.280
that has already started

03:41:34.280 --> 03:41:36.580
and I saw it building up

03:41:36.580 --> 03:41:38.260
in the early 90s

03:41:38.260 --> 03:41:39.920
because of the first Iraq war

03:41:39.920 --> 03:41:42.600
so that has been my experience

03:41:42.600 --> 03:41:44.840
that I see coming

03:41:44.840 --> 03:41:46.720
thanks for joining us

03:41:46.720 --> 03:41:48.660
I am going to let Frank and Andrew

03:41:48.660 --> 03:41:49.760
have the last word

03:41:49.760 --> 03:41:51.260
and then we are wrapping it up

03:41:51.260 --> 03:41:51.740
go Frank

03:41:52.300 --> 03:41:53.880
thanks Ernie it was a good show

03:41:53.880 --> 03:41:56.140
I appreciate it thanks again for Andrew being here

03:41:56.140 --> 03:41:57.660
I would just quickly say

03:41:57.660 --> 03:41:59.640
my concern

03:41:59.640 --> 03:42:02.560
and for the people forgetting the religion for a minute

03:42:02.560 --> 03:42:05.120
is for the Israeli people

03:42:06.100 --> 03:42:06.580
and

03:42:07.180 --> 03:42:10.300
I just kind of wonder if they are showing their own destruction

03:42:10.840 --> 03:42:12.040
not that I wish it of course

03:42:12.040 --> 03:42:13.920
but what happens

03:42:13.920 --> 03:42:16.300
when America finally disconnects

03:42:16.300 --> 03:42:18.400
and just like both of you were talking about

03:42:18.400 --> 03:42:18.940
I mean this

03:42:18.940 --> 03:42:22.200
it is like a house of cards for the Zionist movement

03:42:22.200 --> 03:42:23.880
and it can't hold

03:42:23.880 --> 03:42:26.040
it is going to fall apart on top of that

03:42:26.040 --> 03:42:28.220
accelerated with the economy falling apart

03:42:28.220 --> 03:42:30.020
and the information changes

03:42:30.020 --> 03:42:31.420
and they can't

03:42:31.860 --> 03:42:33.700
control the information

03:42:33.700 --> 03:42:35.800
and the sentiments like they used to

03:42:35.800 --> 03:42:36.820
and on and on and on

03:42:36.820 --> 03:42:39.840
so what happens when they lose their biggest backer

03:42:39.840 --> 03:42:40.220
in America

03:42:40.220 --> 03:42:42.340
there is already overtures that

03:42:42.340 --> 03:42:45.480
the Israeli government is now trying to move on

03:42:45.480 --> 03:42:47.700
to make deals with India

03:42:47.700 --> 03:42:48.580
and China

03:42:48.580 --> 03:42:51.220
that they know America is done

03:42:51.220 --> 03:42:52.700
but China is the rising power

03:42:52.700 --> 03:42:55.200
so they jump off of the American sinking ship

03:42:55.200 --> 03:42:57.780
and go to China and offer their technology

03:42:57.780 --> 03:42:59.080
and say look we will be

03:42:59.080 --> 03:43:00.540
your tech burrows

03:43:00.540 --> 03:43:03.800
and get into that country

03:43:03.800 --> 03:43:05.460
now of course that could work

03:43:05.460 --> 03:43:08.080
they might try the same tactics they did with America

03:43:08.080 --> 03:43:10.200
but with the information

03:43:10.200 --> 03:43:11.860
highway the way it is today

03:43:11.860 --> 03:43:14.180
I don't know if that would work or not

03:43:14.180 --> 03:43:15.120
and you know who knows

03:43:15.120 --> 03:43:16.980
my point though is that if

03:43:18.080 --> 03:43:19.460
America disconnects from it

03:43:19.460 --> 03:43:21.140
because the youth are not going to be supporting

03:43:21.140 --> 03:43:23.060
both democrat and republican independence

03:43:23.060 --> 03:43:25.860
are not going to support Israel even right now

03:43:26.380 --> 03:43:27.740
propagated by a war however

03:43:27.740 --> 03:43:28.820
this thing plays out

03:43:28.820 --> 03:43:29.960
and their bankrupt

03:43:30.640 --> 03:43:33.220
and if the Middle East then starts to turn on them

03:43:33.220 --> 03:43:35.160
because you know of the

03:43:35.160 --> 03:43:36.180
what's happening now

03:43:36.180 --> 03:43:37.880
I mean who knows how many Middle Eastern countries

03:43:37.880 --> 03:43:39.460
are going to support them

03:43:39.460 --> 03:43:41.900
at least maybe I don't know about being hostile

03:43:41.900 --> 03:43:43.280
but they may not be supporting them

03:43:43.280 --> 03:43:45.400
maybe there will be just a payback

03:43:45.400 --> 03:43:48.640
and if America is not there to defend them

03:43:48.640 --> 03:43:50.300
then all these Arab countries

03:43:50.300 --> 03:43:52.160
start to take their licks on them

03:43:52.160 --> 03:43:53.100
I don't know

03:43:53.100 --> 03:43:55.560
and so the question is with Israel

03:43:55.560 --> 03:43:57.480
finally feeling like they

03:43:57.480 --> 03:43:59.040
if they are really backed in a corner

03:43:59.040 --> 03:44:03.160
and they have their nukes

03:44:03.160 --> 03:44:03.600
then what?

03:44:03.960 --> 03:44:06.780
so I obviously don't wish the country be destroyed

03:44:06.780 --> 03:44:08.440
but at the same time

03:44:08.440 --> 03:44:10.420
it's kind of like at some point

03:44:10.420 --> 03:44:12.040
like the little boy cried wolf

03:44:12.040 --> 03:44:14.040
when all of a sudden all of your friends

03:44:14.040 --> 03:44:15.920
and the system you set up

03:44:15.920 --> 03:44:17.640
just kind of melts away

03:44:17.640 --> 03:44:19.660
and you're all by yourself confronting

03:44:19.660 --> 03:44:20.780
all the enemies

03:44:20.780 --> 03:44:23.420
or the paybacks of people who

03:44:24.180 --> 03:44:25.720
maybe you've angered over the years

03:44:25.720 --> 03:44:27.880
who knows what will happen because it's such a small country

03:44:27.880 --> 03:44:28.900
anyway that's just

03:44:28.900 --> 03:44:31.020
and what will the reaction

03:44:31.020 --> 03:44:31.780
of the world be

03:44:31.780 --> 03:44:34.840
will the Zionists

03:44:34.840 --> 03:44:36.140
in America be so

03:44:37.360 --> 03:44:39.600
as maybe they might lose some power

03:44:39.600 --> 03:44:41.320
but will they still shoot off their own

03:44:41.320 --> 03:44:42.860
wad to support Israel

03:44:42.860 --> 03:44:44.300
if Israel is truly

03:44:44.740 --> 03:44:46.820
with an existential threat of existence

03:44:46.820 --> 03:44:48.800
like truly not manufactured

03:44:48.800 --> 03:44:50.440
the way that I see it is now but

03:44:50.440 --> 03:44:52.280
they actually create it

03:44:52.800 --> 03:44:53.800
exactly their own reality

03:44:53.800 --> 03:44:55.420
anyway thank you Ernie thank you Andrew

03:44:55.420 --> 03:44:56.560
Andrew last word

03:44:56.560 --> 03:44:57.580
go ahead

03:44:57.580 --> 03:45:01.160
I just encourage everyone out there

03:45:01.160 --> 03:45:01.900
we all have

03:45:01.900 --> 03:45:04.840
friends family and colleagues

03:45:04.840 --> 03:45:05.720
out there

03:45:05.720 --> 03:45:08.300
that hold these

03:45:09.420 --> 03:45:11.020
opposing views

03:45:11.020 --> 03:45:12.740
that we're opposing

03:45:13.260 --> 03:45:13.740
but

03:45:14.980 --> 03:45:16.100
I think that

03:45:16.100 --> 03:45:19.000
the Bible teaches that the truth

03:45:19.000 --> 03:45:19.860
will prevail

03:45:19.860 --> 03:45:22.760
true logos is

03:45:22.760 --> 03:45:23.980
the true knowledge

03:45:24.340 --> 03:45:26.900
and all truth comes from God

03:45:26.900 --> 03:45:27.980
and

03:45:28.640 --> 03:45:30.760
the false statements

03:45:30.760 --> 03:45:32.720
the false views that they hold

03:45:32.720 --> 03:45:34.840
the inconsistencies those things

03:45:34.840 --> 03:45:36.020
that are just not

03:45:36.760 --> 03:45:39.200
consistent with the theology

03:45:39.200 --> 03:45:41.000
that they

03:45:42.280 --> 03:45:44.040
with the Bible

03:45:44.040 --> 03:45:46.440
that they also hold to

03:45:46.440 --> 03:45:47.880
hold to Jesus

03:45:48.280 --> 03:45:49.800
Jesus is Christ

03:45:49.800 --> 03:45:50.860
the Lord

03:45:51.600 --> 03:45:52.800
the Arch Christians

03:45:52.800 --> 03:45:54.220
we must remind them

03:45:54.220 --> 03:45:56.440
of better consistency

03:45:56.440 --> 03:45:59.080
and truth from the Bible

03:45:59.080 --> 03:46:01.260
to challenge these beliefs

03:46:01.790 --> 03:46:03.720
that are inconsistent with the teaching

03:46:03.720 --> 03:46:04.260
of the Bible

03:46:04.260 --> 03:46:07.280
if we do that

03:46:07.280 --> 03:46:08.640
with our friends and our neighbors

03:46:08.640 --> 03:46:10.600
and those that we're in touch with

03:46:10.600 --> 03:46:12.560
in a way that

03:46:13.590 --> 03:46:15.680
is not disparaging

03:46:15.680 --> 03:46:17.060
in a way that

03:46:17.060 --> 03:46:18.740
you have to look at yourself

03:46:18.740 --> 03:46:19.700
as an educator

03:46:19.700 --> 03:46:22.060
someone that's out there

03:46:22.060 --> 03:46:23.280
with their best interest

03:46:23.280 --> 03:46:26.400
that you may cringe at

03:46:26.400 --> 03:46:27.460
and really

03:46:28.720 --> 03:46:30.280
just be patient

03:46:30.280 --> 03:46:33.140
and continue on with the conversation

03:46:33.140 --> 03:46:35.560
because eventually they will come around

03:46:35.560 --> 03:46:37.560
and I have talked to many people

03:46:37.560 --> 03:46:39.240
where starting out

03:46:39.240 --> 03:46:41.280
had very opposite views

03:46:41.280 --> 03:46:42.660
on this

03:46:42.660 --> 03:46:44.300
and we're very much in that

03:46:44.300 --> 03:46:46.160
Zionist Christian camp

03:46:46.160 --> 03:46:47.380
that have

03:46:48.160 --> 03:46:49.480
started to come over

03:46:49.480 --> 03:46:51.420
or have flipped their views on

03:46:51.420 --> 03:46:52.440
Israel and the war

03:46:52.440 --> 03:46:55.860
there is hope

03:46:55.860 --> 03:46:57.260
we must just talk to each other

03:46:57.260 --> 03:46:59.740
and something that must be debated out

03:47:00.420 --> 03:47:02.200
and the truth will prevail

03:47:02.200 --> 03:47:03.500
as Jesus said

03:47:03.500 --> 03:47:08.000
the gates of hell will not prevail

03:47:08.000 --> 03:47:09.380
meaning that

03:47:10.260 --> 03:47:12.240
Satan is on the defensive

03:47:12.240 --> 03:47:14.240
the lies

03:47:14.240 --> 03:47:15.580
are on the defensive

03:47:15.970 --> 03:47:17.980
the truth is on the attack

03:47:17.980 --> 03:47:20.200
and we are going to prevail

03:47:20.200 --> 03:47:22.020
against it in the end

03:47:22.020 --> 03:47:23.560
it may get ugly

03:47:23.870 --> 03:47:25.820
but just keep consistent

03:47:25.820 --> 03:47:27.060
thank you

03:47:28.040 --> 03:47:29.300
thanks guys

03:47:29.300 --> 03:47:31.140
we didn't even get into

03:47:31.140 --> 03:47:33.660
a lot of the stuff

03:47:34.010 --> 03:47:35.040
things like

03:47:37.100 --> 03:47:38.460
Charlie Kirk's

03:47:38.460 --> 03:47:39.020
assassination

03:47:39.020 --> 03:47:41.140
I mean you know it is

03:47:41.140 --> 03:47:43.500
amazing how bad

03:47:43.500 --> 03:47:45.060
you know things can get

03:47:45.060 --> 03:47:46.420
and if we

03:47:47.020 --> 03:47:49.100
don't have these discussions

03:47:49.100 --> 03:47:50.820
they won't be had

03:47:50.820 --> 03:47:53.360
and the truth won't be unveiled

03:47:53.360 --> 03:47:54.900
whether you agree with everything or not

03:47:54.900 --> 03:47:55.800
it's not even the point

03:47:55.800 --> 03:47:58.820
it's that there has been a mission

03:47:58.820 --> 03:48:00.580
and the mission

03:48:00.580 --> 03:48:03.260
is not us

03:48:03.260 --> 03:48:04.700
I can guarantee that

03:48:04.700 --> 03:48:06.840
so this has been a good show

03:48:06.840 --> 03:48:08.340
thanks for coming on

03:48:08.340 --> 03:48:10.140
Andrew it's good to see you man

03:48:11.180 --> 03:48:13.420
there's a good Christian family

03:48:13.420 --> 03:48:14.080
that

03:48:14.880 --> 03:48:16.140
got it going on

03:48:16.140 --> 03:48:17.380
he's populating

03:48:17.380 --> 03:48:18.940
he's doing his part

03:48:18.940 --> 03:48:21.740
I want to be glad that

03:48:21.740 --> 03:48:24.080
you're a dad and raising a family

03:48:24.080 --> 03:48:25.740
you've always been really happy for

03:48:25.740 --> 03:48:26.320
even Frank

03:48:26.320 --> 03:48:29.880
but he finally had a baby

03:48:30.760 --> 03:48:32.260
I'll get him going

03:48:32.260 --> 03:48:33.540
I was gonna left out

03:48:33.540 --> 03:48:36.420
yeah he was feeling left out

03:48:36.420 --> 03:48:38.160
you know thanks guys

03:48:38.160 --> 03:48:39.140
this has been

03:48:40.860 --> 03:48:41.660
enlightening

03:48:41.660 --> 03:48:43.900
and hopefully people understand

03:48:43.900 --> 03:48:45.160
how this relates

03:48:45.160 --> 03:48:47.620
into the Trump report

03:48:47.620 --> 03:48:49.240
and the wars

03:48:49.240 --> 03:48:51.000
and the rumors of wars

03:48:51.160 --> 03:48:52.660
and what we're up against

03:48:53.400 --> 03:48:53.800
PACE