Hello, and welcome to Beth of Fresh Air. It is Friday, November 7th. It is 2025.
I like saying that. It just gives me some context in the world. I can be one of those people that
forgets what day it is and loses their grounding. I'm all air in my astrology, and so today I'm
going to be talking about conveyance and I'm not talking about, you know, trucks and buses and
roadways and all of that kind of thing, which we generally use this word to mean, but I'm talking
about communication. And I will, while we're waiting for a few people to come on, I'll just
talk about, I was just doing a snippet with the author, Mark Archer, who I find absolutely
fascinating. He, this is completely unrelated, although I can almost always relate everything
together. Come say hi in the chat if you're already around, by the way. And so we did a House of
Free Will snippet, which is a weekly video podcast that I do privately. So this is only for
members, and every single week I've been putting out a stream. So there's a really good
library of snippets and Mark Archer has been on for a few snippets. And today we were talking
about the symbols of Cain and Abel in the Bible. And so if you've followed me for some years
over the past while, you know, I went through a Christian phase or, you know, reclaiming my
Christian roots kind of phase and I got lost in the weeds there. And it was kind of a
twisty weird turn and start to the House of Free Will. And I'm over it. I'm on the other side of it
now, but still fascinated by some of those symbols. And because why they are such a huge determinant
of our culture for better or for worse, right? Like whether you like it or you don't like it,
or you agree with the Bible or you don't agree with it. It's been, you know, the biggest
most highly debated controversial elements of our culture. Some people might argue like hands down
the most controversial. And so I just loved that conversation. We had to cut it short. So it means
that we're going to end up with at least a part two on this subject. But it was absolutely
fascinating to talk about. And going right to the roots of it, this is this is where I
appreciate it because he's going into the actual words of the Bible and what they
convey in reality, as opposed to what has been interpreted and taken often out of context.
And anyway, so that's really fun. And if you're interested in being a member of the House of
Free Will, then you can apply to do so at my website, bathmartins.com. And I can probably
find you a link right to the application page. Things are evolving. I'm in the process of
changing the agreement, making it much more simple. So if that will, that will probably
make it better for people. So I will grab this link. And yeah, so here it is in the chat,
if anybody would like to grab that from the live. And so we are here on Facebook and YouTube and
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So I'll have to upload to that or maybe that is maybe we are live on vigilante TV,
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new show. If it's possible to share out the link for today and help me get some people to find
this stream, that would be great. It's kind of sad in this world because, you know,
whether it's shadow banning or whatever the exact problem is, then yeah, can be harder to
get people on. But by the way, coming up on the King Hero's journey, I'm going to be
interviewing Sarah. Now I'm knowing her last name to be Bobara. I might be completely wrong
about that because it might be just a scream name. I'm waiting to hear from her. She is the host of
Raging Tomato. It is a debate channel that Ben Balderson recently introduced me to. I was on a
debate, which is pretty funny because that's not really my wheelhouse. He made me go and it
was super fun and right away hit it off with Sarah, who booked me for an interview. It was
a fantastic interview. She just did an amazing job and had a number of epiphanies during our
discussion, which I loved. That was super fun for me. And so you can join us on, this is going to
be November 12th at 1pm central time, a little different time, but that's when she was available.
So that's coming up. I'm also going to be interviewing Christine Massey. So that's what's
on the horizon. So let's get into this, convey. Communication is a very big part of life.
It's undeniable. You can't go through life without having some system of communication.
And when babies are pre-verbal, meaning they don't have words yet and they don't have the
developmental level to be able to actually make words and say, like, hey, mom, that whatever you just
put me on or put me in or put in me sucks, then what do they do? They emote. They will cry.
They will make sounds, right? That's something that right from the get go, they have the ability
to make sounds and they convey, for anybody who pays attention, you can see what's happening for
that infant, right? You can see they're either, you know, have a kind of content, peacefulness
in their nature. And even though they're squirmy and moving and everything like that,
it's giving, it's conveying a positive content kind of vibe. And then they can also be like,
you know, when their face screws up and they're making sounds that are, say, not as pretty and a
little more, some people might say annoying or, you know, that to me is by design that nature
installed that baby with the ability to convey things are good and things are not good,
which I'm sure there's a lot more nuance in there. Some people pride themselves in being
able to actually read all the signs from babies. And you can, you can actually teach babies sign
language, which is pretty funny. So I'll tell a quick little story about my son when he was
before two, somewhere between one and two. And I was feeding him and I had this idea that I
was going to teach him sign language. So I learned the sign for more and I believe this is it
more, more, more like this. And so I was, I was feeding him and, and then I'm, I'm trying to get
him to say like, does he want more or is he, is he finished? So I'm going like this to him more,
would you like more? And then he says to me more, like he actually said the word and made the
sign at the same time. And I'm like, Oh, we don't need signs. We're good. We're off to the
races with the words here. So this is natural. And it's something that is absolutely essential
for a number of reasons that we get into this kind of conveyance of, of information and data.
We live in a world that is completely datified. I think I just made that word up. So let me
say, they want more and more data. They are eating us alive for our data. That's why they want you to
wear a smart watch and they want to read your biometrics and more and more. The online world is
being governed by the, you know, facial recognition and the airports are, are well on their way to
being governed in that facial recognition kind of a place. And they are gathering up our data.
Now, this is a totally not benevolent use of this conveyance. And, and God knows, you know,
when I think about all that data that they have to just manage and compile and deal with. And
to me, that sounds like the biggest burden ever that they would, they would have all of this
data. But of course, that's why the biggest growing businesses right now are those that
deal with the data. And I will go so far as to say that the devil is in the data.
So that has inverted this very pure mechanism or function of a human being. Now, all animals
convey in one way or another, more like the baby does. But humans are the only ones that I'm
aware of who convey through words. Now, it's not limited, of course, to words, but words are on,
I don't know where they would scale. Are they on the top? Or are they actually kind of down low?
I had one of my professors in university said that, that words were actually only five percent
of our conveyance. And that communication happened, 95% of communication happened on different
levels. People know about body language. They know about what else the body language, the tone of the
voice, algorithms now read tone of voice. For example, if somebody is very angry and intense
when they're giving their message on their podcast, and maybe they swear a lot, the algorithms will
de-select them. Now, I'm de-selected for other reasons, I guess I have to imagine, because I don't
get angry on my podcasts. And I don't swear that much once in a while. I swear a lot more in the
house of free will, just so you know, if that's any fun for you. So I grew up in a communication
business. That was my parents' firm in marketing and communication. And so this was
their forte. This was their strong point. My dad was very often hired to be the go-between, the person
who would communicate, say, between a company and the government or the company and policy makers,
between the company and politicians, which ultimately ended up being the policy makers.
And what they called stakeholders, so all of the surrounding elements, you know, so if I just take
one of the clients that we used to work for, McCain Foods, and so the stakeholders would be, some of
the stakeholders would be the potato farmers, or they would be the packages on the other,
what other, their own packages. Who else would the stakeholders be, you know, policy makers
and politicians and everything like that? So my dad in particular was hired to be the
go-between. And especially when it came to some kind of a crisis, when things were falling apart,
when there was, I remember when Acrylamide became, we became aware of Acrylamide,
which is an ingredient in French fries. And Acrylamide is a known carcinogen, so it's
poison. And so when it hit the airwaves and it hit the newspapers and those days, you know,
back to the old media, television, radio, and newspapers, then it was a bit of a crisis for
that company, because if everybody knew that when they ate their French fries, they were consuming
a known carcinogen, Acrylamide, that would go badly. And I remember thinking, oh, this is
going to be the end of McCain Foods or McCain French fries anyway. I hope I don't
get in any trouble talking about them. But as always with all things that are conveyed,
and you think, oh, this knowledge is out there, the cat's out of the bag, and we can't put it back
in, and everybody knows. And then it really turned in, I mean, my dad did some communication
around that. I don't even remember exactly the details, but it turned into a nothing,
as usual, and people went on to eat their French fries. But yeah, so that wasn't even the best example
of that. Because yeah, people just go into amnesia, they learn things like that, and then they
just, they either don't care, or there's too many things to care about. That's, I think,
one of the strategies in our world is that they convey a great deal of wrongs to us. There's
the, I don't know if I can say that word, but like the doom and word that starts with a P,
but sounds like born. Can I say that word? I heard people on a debate censoring that word,
so they just kept calling it P, because the debate was actually about it. But that's how we've
operated with this communication coming at us on a regular basis, that something wrong is
happening. The meteor is going to hit, the virus is going to kill everybody, the earth is going to
turn it, it's going to be an ice age any second, and the, oh, and it's going to be
actually global warming, and everything's melting. I saw some memes this morning showing
pictures of little pieces of ice that stick up on an iceberg, and it was 30 years ago,
and then they show the current page, and it's like a current image, and it's exactly the same.
We've grown up with a lot of that kind of conveyance flooding our world, and so we've learned
to dumb down to it. We've learned not to take it in, because if you accept, you fully imbibe,
and take in that conveyance, then it's going to bring about a state of constant panic, constant
fear, constant unrest, and nobody can live like that. That's actually one of the advantages
that happened in our Covidius Maximus era, where they were, at first it worked perfectly,
they were screaming and yelling, everybody's in danger, you're killing the grandmas,
and at first it was like, oh, okay, okay, and when they wave their finger at you and they said,
go home, people actually did go home, but as time went on, there was some fear, fatigue took place,
and people dumbed down and numbed out and tuned out, which it turned out to be a really good
thing that they just stopped listening to that scary message that was coming through
the screen. Now that is not exactly where you want people, because that's sent them down into that
numbed out, when you dumb down and you just close your senses and you stop taking in the
information. I think this is very much by design that people end up in apathy, and their senses
are numbed out in a way to protect themselves, so they don't have a heart attack every time they
go out into the world or take in a message of some kind. With the world of communication,
I found fascinating, because you could very easily manipulate perception, oh, hey, Melanie,
either dispel fear or you could create fear. Even though something, you know,
a company is doing something bad and wrong, you could create the image of them doing something
good and right. My dad's approach was not to be dishonest about it, but it was always to turn
the negative message and communication that had reached the public into a positive,
and that would be like, oh, we found out that our, you know, like, oh, the spill, my dad worked
for CN and they would often have train wrecks, they would fall off the rails, and then they
would spill their guts, and that could be oil and everything like that, and then so my dad
would go heavy on the communication about what CN was doing to remedy the situation,
to make it better and to build up greater relationships with the public that otherwise
would have been damaged. So that was a very, very interesting upbringing for me to see,
and then to compare that and to contrast it with my personal family life behind the scenes
and to watch how communication is the Achilles heel for most relationships, most families,
right? Communication doesn't happen very fluidly or very easily or very honestly,
and beyond the honesty can be where you're not even aware of yourself. How could you be
honest with anybody else? So you're not aware of even what would an honest message look like,
and even if you were, you're going to calculate and you're going to see, oh, if I'm honest
with people and I communicate how I really feel, then I'm not going to fit in, I'm not going to
be accepted, I'm not going to be loved, I'm not going to be approved of, and I will risk
my safety in the process. You can, if you're already familiar with my work, you can hear
all of the programming that's in there that ties people's tongues and stops them from just being
their self, which can also be defined in a number of ways. Sometimes when people are
thinking that they're going to be honest with people, they're really thinking that they want to
tell that other person what's wrong with them, as if that's some kind of honesty. And to me,
this is a very, very, very fake pseudo version of true communication that could take place where
you're like, oh, I'm just going to be honest with you, and I say that you're really a jerk and you've
done wrongs and you need to clean that up and you're not going anywhere or you hurt me,
this kind of thing, super highly nuanced. But as long as you're conveying to the other
person that you lack or you're bad, you have qualities that you need to change and get rid of,
then that conveyance is, in fact, not honest. I'm not saying there aren't times to give
people reflections, but you can see just in terms of the success of it, does it work?
Does it actually work when you might even have to get your courage up and you go and tell
somebody what's wrong with them? And do chime in and chat. If you're around, I'd love to have this
be a conversation that's the fun part of the Beth of Fresh Air is that it's highly interactive,
so I'd love to hear from you guys what your thoughts are as we go along. But yeah, that
communication in families can be extremely difficult. It can lead to a lot of conflict.
It can lead to a lot of inner conflict where you're not being true to yourself and what happens when
you're not being true to yourself is that you have to start suppressing your true authentic
nature. If you haven't been able to sort out or make sense of your own inner life and you do a
lot of conveyance of telling people what their problem is, what's wrong with them,
and that doesn't go well, then that can send you into that place of just trying to suppress
all of those kind of things. So it gets really complex, it gets pretty mangled,
and it leaves people in a very compromised place when it comes to creating true
connection and growing relationships over time, which is the ultimate punchline that we're in.
If that's not already complicated enough with our in-person family kind of relationships,
then you go into the next circle where it's more your chosen relationships with friends
or places that you work, which sometimes you choose. This was one of the things that when
I did work with my family's firm and I was their vice president for the better part of a decade,
I really didn't choose those people to work with them. I chose to work with my father,
who was the president of that communication firm, and my mother, whose business was a little
bit on the side, but in the same location. But there were all of the people that I was in
fact managing. Effectively, they never called me a manager, but as a vice president, I was definitely
a go-between between employees and my dad. And the communication was very strained,
very difficult. Anyone who has ever been in a management role will know that it's very difficult.
I was talking about accountants yesterday and how they're in a kind of manager role,
because their real boss is the government and their sort of boss is the client. And who did they
actually answer to in the process? They're caught in the middle and have to be the conveyor of
all kinds of information, sometimes like good and that they don't like it. So that's a very
difficult position. I was in that position as the vice president. And yeah, it was difficult
to find my way, first of all, because they weren't my chosen people. They weren't people that I
would have wanted to invest my time and energy in. And that building up through communication
over time, the relationship and the connection that can bloom. So that's very difficult. And I
think a lot of people are caught in that kind of a life right now, where they are forced on
a daily basis or through their choice. Obviously, I don't do that anymore. I chose differently,
but that they're in that situation. So that's what is and then all day long, they have to
be in a conveyance with people that it's not really worth it for them to
go the distance and work out all the bugs. And so there's a kind of quiet suffering that
can take place in that context. So that's all more of an in-person kind of conveyance, which is
highly complex and can be very difficult, you might have noticed. Now you throw in the digital age
and this is not new. It was new back in those days. When I was the vice president
in my last couple of years, we were just starting to have much more internet access. People were
just starting to make websites for the first time ever. I think we made our first website.
I think it costs some like $25,000 to make this really simple, ugly thing of a website
that was really just a brochure. So it was in the infancy of that face and looking at how
far things have come now where people can effectively make their own beautiful website,
which is what I do now if you go to Beth Martens. I mean, I didn't make it. I'm using
templates from the company that I work with called Simplero and they made it super easy
for me to convey, which is great. And so you throw in the digital age. There's all
kinds of nuances. So how do people mostly communicate these days? Do they pick up the phone?
Put your hand up. If you still pick up the phone and call someone, I will still do that.
And sometimes because I'll look at my text and it's a little bit annoying to make a message,
and especially if it's a complex message of some kind, I might literally just
hit the button and see if they're available. And if they're not available, that's no problem.
Melanie says me. But it's rare. Same thing with just showing up at somebody's house and just
knocking on their door. Hey, are you there? Do you want to come out and play? That's how
things used to be. You don't do that anymore. That's considered to be kind of rude and it
might catch you off guard and you didn't expect them. And it's a bad time. But there was a day
where that's exactly how you did it. You either picked up the phone or you showed up on their
doorstep and you took your chances. I'm actually pretty happy. My son and his friends will do
that now. They'll just go to the other person's place and then they will text from outside.
And then the friend will say, you're at my house, aren't you? Like this. My son gets a
kick out of that. So going back to some olden days kind of stuff. But the digital communication
has really confused things in a lot of different ways and it's unique for each of the platforms
as well, which is interesting because it's become a kind of culture of platforms. So there's
certain kinds of communication you can make in a text and certain kinds you can make in a
live stream and certain communication that you can make in an email. And if sometimes when you get
an email by text as a text, you don't want to look at it. Why number one is it might be long?
Like I remember a girlfriend broke up with me, maybe three going on three years or more ago.
And she sent me a text that was as long as my arm. That should have been an email.
It was really hard to go through and these scrolling and flipping and so many details
and points. And how are you supposed to respond to that? Email is much more easy.
By the way, if you send me a complex email, a long email with a lot of different points
and you're hoping for me to respond, this does happen actually quite often,
then what I'll do is I'll hit reply and then I'll go and I'll make spaces in between your
sentences or your paragraphs and I will respond sometimes point for point if it's really important
or it's, you know, that you've got a lot to say and I don't want to just
write it off. And if I'm trying to write from memory of having just read your email,
then I'm going to miss points so I can be pretty thorough in my responding in that way.
That's fun for me. I love thorough communication. I think it's fantastic.
And it doesn't, and volume matters, you know, so sometimes people will send me these huge long
messages. And as soon as I see, just so you guys know, as soon as I see the length of a message,
then my brain goes into priority mode. And I will, if it's super lengthy,
then what am I going to have to do? I'm going to have to put it off for a time
when I can actually indulge myself in a big long read, not to mention the response because there's
no point in going through the read. If I don't respond, then I'm just going to have to read it
again at a different time. So if, you know, for me who's considering efficiency around time,
then just know there are some people that they used to get upset when they would send me big
long messages and wouldn't hear from me right away about it. And this is why, right? So if
you're trying to communicate and convey with anybody that you know maybe has a bigger schedule
or a lot of different, you know, they've got a lot of communication going on and their hands are
very full and you know that, then if you really want to communicate with them,
shorter is better, just so you know, right? That might not be obvious to people if you
haven't been in on the other side where you yourself have a lot of commitments and not that
everybody doesn't have that, everybody does, but it can be different when you're extremely active
in the digital world. And hello to Maya. Nice to see you guys. Glad you can make it. Mike
New is here. Good afternoon. You never get on YouTube, but I'm glad you did today. That's
awesome. Yeah, we're, I believe we're on vigilante TV, but not rumble today. I, I'm still getting
my ducks in a row. I'm still suffering from a time zone change. This is very hard on communication,
very hard on planning, very hard on scheduling. I also, it was going through a detox last week.
So as that's why I wasn't here for the better fresh air, just letting myself snotted out
and cough it out and get the poison out of my face, my eyes and my nose. And so, yeah,
things got pretty confused. And so there can be, you know, shocking, staggering number of details
when your world is digital, when your work is digital, when all of your conveyance for the most
part other than your personal life is digital, then volume matters, volume matters. So learning to
be more concise is a really good thing if, and that's the ultimate purpose of talking about
this today. If you want to be heard, you want to be understood, you want to actually have people
relate and exchange with you, which I'm always willing to do, right? I'm a, I'm a born
connector. If you don't know that about me yet, then I'm somebody who genuinely loves
the exchange and the conveyance. Like this is, this is close to my heart. It's like,
I don't know, this is part of the gift of life. Some people would be just royally annoyed
by that. I've got one girlfriend in mind in particular, and even saying the word royal,
it's, I think the ruler in her, the king in her is annoyed by a whole lot of communication that
maybe doesn't have direct purpose or, you know, a direct kind of action or call to action of some
kind. She doesn't want a lot of what she would probably term to be meaningless exchange. I also
but because I'm a born connector and I love connecting, being connected to people, I love
connecting people who should know each other. It is super easy and joyful for me. I do like
hearing from people. I, I kind of, no pressure, but I do depend on when I do a stream like this
solo without a guest, which better fresh air generally will be, although I might have
some guests, then I'm kind of relying on you guys to chime in and to have an exchange with me.
And that's where, to me, that's why I would do this live. I'm not just sitting in front of a
camera recording something and putting it out there and seeing if there's comments or there's
no comments or something like that. I, I personally get high on, on the live exchange and that's
what makes it fun and interesting. And it is unpredictable for that reason, which I really
love because I'm a person who doesn't want everything to be all wrote and, and regimented and
prescripted and everything like that. I'm a, I'm a fan of improvisation, right? I always have
an idea of what I'm going to say on these live streams. I do have some notes to return to,
but for the most part, it's just coming through. And that's fun. One of the things we're doing in my,
planning to do and preparing to do right now in my events coaching training group
that has already graduated journey code and went on is we're practicing some role playing.
So right now I've been playing the, the difficult client and that's not to put any
people who are difficult down. It's just that when you help people to discover their own patterns,
the way that their life is showing up and they don't like it and they're, you know, they're
interested, they want to have a breakthrough. They want to, they want to gain some freedom,
but they might be stuck in resistance. They might be just brand new to the work and not have
a clue about how the unconscious operates in their system. They might be really stuck in a,
in a victim situation where they feel like life is just happening to them. They might feel like
it's everybody else's problem and so they don't really have any work to do. It's everybody
else that needs to do some work and they're just there to let off some steam. Not as,
not nearly as common. I don't end up with clients like that at all. But so I've been playing
the role of that, of that difficult client and it's been like pretty fun. It's extremely evocative,
extremely evocative, almost shocking myself what's coming up because I don't, I don't
pre-plan who I'm going to be. I don't invent a scenario in advance. I might start doing that
just to give myself a little bit of a head start or, you know, something to work with,
some content to riff on. But it's fascinating to watch what comes up and out and, and, you know,
very real emotions, even though I'm, it's a fictitious situation that I'm not in,
but because we are emotional creatures and we have this installation of the map of emotions
inside as a spiral. That's why I'm doing this with my hand inside of us. Then they're all
accessible. And this is what any good actor or actress knows that, that there's a whole
range of human experience that can be accessed. Now they're doing it for art's sake or for,
you know, for selling art or for being convincing or being, you know, popular and
compelling so that when somebody watches you, then they want to keep on watching you, that
they're going to lean in and they want to know how the story goes or know how the
gory story goes when they watch somebody. So it's, it's been super fun to, to see how easily I can
bring up a whole variety of emotions and I can cry and I'm like, and I'm literally shaking inside
and I'm having this very real thing and I'm, and I'm mad, you know, like I got, I got this kind
of vitriol going on and it's not, I'm not playing, I'm not really playing that. I'm,
I'm evoking that. I'm bringing that up from, from that deep inside, but for the purposes of,
of not just acting or doing art, but for the purposes of healing. So that's been super fun
and where was I going with that? So let's see if I go back to where I was, where I was,
I don't know, can you guys remind me where I was going with that?
All about conveyance and difficult people. Oh, I'll shoot. I'm going to have to start a new,
on a new point here. If we go back a little bit to say honest communication and, and this is some,
this is a place I pointed like to make and a place that people get stuck is when they
think about communicating to someone, they feel like they're, you know, this is maybe how we've
been indoctrinated by the New Age world or the therapy world is that we have to express our
feelings and women in relationships often feel like their partner needs to express his feelings.
There is a half truth in there. The half of the truth is that if the other person is
suppressing all of their feelings, then it is creating a lot of tension for them.
It's creating a lot of loss and drain of energy for them and their communication
to you is going to be stunted, right? If they're busy suppressing their emotions.
Now people think that, yeah, therapy is all about communicating emotions constantly, right?
And what, you know, what do you get out of that? How many people have been to therapy for
their, could be their whole adult life? I know, I know people that went through therapy their
entire adult life had their, their, you know, psychiatrist or their counselor on the other
side actually quit on them or retired before they graduated, right? There's no such thing
as graduating therapy. As far as I know, anyway, there's no, there's no like, oh, you won or you,
you're finished. You are, you're, this process is complete now. There's no, there's no
completion to it. And, and so my, my expression for this kind of, of, you know, healing is
that you're really just by expressing your emotions and learning to do that. And I'll go
back to why there is a certain half truth in there that you're just pushing furniture around on the
Titanic, right? So you're moving things around. The emotions are moving in their expression,
but they're just moving around. It's the same thing with, I heard this about castor oil and
people probably won't like this, but that castor oil, people think that's very detoxifying,
but the reality is that the castor oil is mobilizing. So it's actually not a bad
metaphor for the emotions. It's mobilizing poisons, but it might just move those poisons over to
another place out of the place that you're maybe having pain. And that's why people will, will
respond to what they think to be positively to the, the castor oil, but it's, it's going to
like move somewhere and maybe you don't want it somewhere else. Maybe you don't want it in
your brain. Maybe you don't want it in your lungs. Maybe you don't want it in your stomach
kind of thing. So, and see what Mike said here, mainstream substance abuse, counseling relies
heavily on focusing on your emotions. He found a spiritual path was far more meaningful. Good
for you. That's amazing. Yeah, I can't imagine trying to deal with addiction in, in the mainstream
therapy world, managing symptoms just like allopathy, exactly. And so yeah, the, the emotions
are seen as symptoms, as problems, again, a half truth. There, there's, there is something
wrong in them. So if you go with the pendulum swing, which a lot of spiritual systems can do
and say that, you know, the, the emotions are, are fantastic. They, you need them. You
are justified to have them and, and they glorify and elevate them and bring them
into this status that it's, you know, the, the conveyance of an emotion is so sacred and so
everything. But if look and see how that plays out in real life, right, if you're angry at somebody
and then you go and you dump your anger on them, you convey to them how angry you are,
how does it go? Do they go, Oh, yes, I understand. Oh, yep, yep. I'm gonna,
I'm gonna change that thing that makes you angry. I'm, I'm gonna, you know,
make a shift and I'm going to do what you want me to do. Like, does it ever go like that? It
doesn't go like that. Just doesn't. There might be the odd person who is so mastered in their own
emotional life that they could, you know, it's possible that I could be successful at times
with, with that. And I've put myself in a role where there's a lot of, there can be a
lot of projections on me. Not so much. I feel like I'm surrounded by a lot of like really good
self-responsible people, but inevitably they're, you know, I'm usually around when people's
shit comes up. That's, I'm usually around for that. That's the role of a coach, right?
That you're, you're there and, and they're expressing problems. And if they don't have
that ability to just be self-responsible and know that it's, it's their own experience,
they will project it onto you. And that's what we call, you know, the therapy world would call
transference or something like that. So I have at times had to deal in my professional life
with people being angry at me. And, and then so I've got a lot of practice at how to manage
that and how to stay in a role. This actually goes back to my, my business days, where I'm able to
maintain communication rather than just, you know, if somebody projects on me, then I project on them
and I'm angry at them and then we fight and we are at war and then we break up and all of that
kind of thing. So, you know, nothing good comes of that. But yeah, so the, the expression
of the emotions is not a cure of anything. It is just addressing the symptoms. And why do we
consider the emotions to be symptoms is because they're full of pain and they're full of suffering
and they cause a loss of energy, especially when they are stuck, when they are held and, and,
and suppressing them, investing energy into pushing them down away from your awareness,
which is what suppression really means, then they become a nemesis and they are as if calling for
your attention like, hey, something wrong here. It's like when you have an infection under the
skin and it's going to call you that like, hey, all is not right over here. We're going to have to,
you're going to have to something or other. There's needing a remedy, needing a remedy
and it's going to call your attention. And if you, if you don't give it your attention,
then that is going to fester and it's going to become bigger. It's going to become worse.
And you're going to get bigger signs and bigger conveyances from your own inner wound. In this
case, the metaphor that we're talking about, right? So if you suppress your emotions and,
and this applies to your thoughts and any other thing that we're in the habit of conveying,
then it doesn't go well. It's not, it's not right. I'll just read this message here.
Mike said, I had a handbook in court appointed counseling called seeking safety. You can't
see how anyone solved their addiction with its clinical how to approach right, right? Yeah,
I don't know how they get away with that. It shows where the healing does begin.
Shows where does the healing begin? Okay, well, that's good. So the second point of it is that
if you, if you just unleash the emotions and it also doesn't go well because you're effectively
infecting others with your emotion and that comes down to misery loves company,
people looking for oneness at the level of misery and how miserable is that, right? Nobody,
nobody consciously wants that. That's, that's unconsciously driven when they're upset and
they come home and they make everybody else upset and they don't get anything out of it.
But it, it promised this state of oneness where we can all be in a tizzy together
and, and it doesn't bring you anything good or worthwhile.
And so now what, then, then what is to be conveyed? So you feel bad and you have the
sense that somebody else wronged you and that can be true. Maybe you were a bona fide victim
of, of people and, and I'll always ask that question. Say if somebody projects anger on to
me, I will always take inventory first. And I might do it extensively. There was
somebody that I worked with last year that I appreciate and love so much and it was amazing.
There, there was a, there was a point of conflict and sometimes as a, as a coach, I, I end up
in the role of like kind of mama that's not mama or mommy, but, but the, like the mother and,
and then it's easy. If they're having difficulties, it's easy to play out some conflict with me.
So I was nudging them. I was encouraging them. I was, you know, giving them just little and,
and just to see, I didn't, I didn't know what would come of it when I gave them little nudges to,
to move forward when they thought they couldn't. I didn't know what was going to happen.
And then there was a hard stop. They decided, okay, it's a no. And I'm like, okay, no is no.
Right. I'm, I'm done with it, but I'm not, I'm not totally done with it. I'm done with it
with you. And then there's often something that comes up in me that allows me to, to see.
And, and, and then I did end up conveying, but not in, not in a personal way, in a more
generalized way so that there were some lessons that came up in the process that I thought
everyone could benefit from. So without like naming anybody or the situation or giving
any details so that anyone would know except that person did know because they, they recognized it
obviously because they're, they're in the exchange with me. And after they got really, really mad at
me. And you know, so that was like, oh, okay, all right. What did I do at that time? I could
have just easily gone and responded and, and gotten point for point and kind of powered over
her and using my intellectual prowess to blow holes in all of the accusations that weren't,
you know, super founded, but there, but there was something. So instead of just responding
from that more masculine place, I went and I did my own work and I took inventory and I saw
like where did I go wrong to create this conflict? And this is a very powerful thing pre communication
before you say anything before you respond, even if it's a text as long as your arm,
it's good to take a step back and sort it out. Now, sorting, I don't mean
discover what's her problem and what's my problem. This is the next level you might
have heard me talk about this assuming radical responsibility and saying, you know what? I
did it. I did this whole thing. I created the course. She joined the course. Therefore, I'm the
cause of the problem, not to blame, but I did it anyway. So starting with that premise of power
and I went through all of the points that I would have shot back to her to refute her
points and I released the programming that was under all of my points. And when I got to the end,
I was left with only one thing. And can you guys guess what it was?
See if you can say in the chat, what was the, it's not really a feeling. It's not really a
thing. So in a way, it's a pretty hard question to answer, but I was left with one thing
and it was called love, right? Not, not fear, not anger, not my desire to shift and change her
perspective or make her not mad at me or all of that kind of thing. I just was left with love
for her and love in general. And then I came back to the communication and then I left her a message
because then I was confident I could express love to her. And this is the whole,
the whole punchline of today's stream is that we are often expressing anything and everything,
but the love that sits underneath all of the, you know, thoughts, emotions, programs in particular,
those, those are the gatekeepers. And so that's what we express. And that's what
therapy gets people to barf out, right? Just barf out your thoughts, barf out your emotions.
Hearing today that in therapy, they encourage people to swear. So then you can barf out all your,
all your, your cussing and your negativity and your, you know, hopelessness or your grumpiness
and all of that kind of thing. And boy, I can't imagine a worse life than being a therapist,
like having, having people's garbage shooting at you all day, like that to me would just
be like a hellish kind of a place. Unless there is a whole purpose to that. And, and it's next level
where the expression of the communication is used for the sake of healing and going deeper and
taking responsibility. So I'll just finish the story is that the net result of this exchange
that I was having was a greater and deeper relationship that we were able to continue working
together and keep going. And was the, the relationship the same as it was before? No,
it was, it was better. It would, there was more love. There was a greater point of connection
for the conveyance that I was able to, to make from a place of love and really assume
responsibility. And what did I, what did I do? I apologized. Like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that
what I did hurt you. And, and that was just, you know, bottom line, not trying to get out
of it, not trying to anything. I did see where I went wrong. And I learned and it taught me
not just for this situation, but for all kinds of situations to come in the future. So yes,
true love always leads to true conveyance. That's beautiful. That's a great quote. Like,
you should write that everywhere. So yeah, that's, that's the main thing that gets lost when we are
told, Oh, you have to express your feelings. Well, you're expressing feelings are all now you
might not believe me when I say this, but this is my experience, not just with myself,
but with hundreds of people that I've worked with, that all of the feelings are rooted
in something called not love. And if it's not love, what is it? If there's only two things,
if it's not love, what, what do you got?
And, and this is at the basis of all of the emotions, even the ones that we like, right?
So I would not consider love to be an emotion. If, if love is an emotion, then it's not love.
And it has an opposite, right? One of the programs is the love hate
program where it flips where you, and who hasn't seen this in a relationship where at the beginning,
you love them. There's, oh my goodness, they're just the best and they're so great and it's
awesome. And then you, maybe you start to learn a little bit more about them and you find things
that bump up against your nature or you disagree on things. And then maybe, maybe you,
there's some hate in the mix and maybe it gets very extreme where you go from extreme adoration
to extreme aversion and like, oh, get away from me. So this program can attach itself and be
very confusing because people do think that they're having a love experience when they're
actually having a programmed experience that's rooted in fear, right? So if you don't have love,
you got fear. That's, that's the word that I was looking for there. And so if it's coming from fear,
then it's going to the conveyance and the communication is going to be saturated with fear
and it's going to pre, it's going to produce a result that has the nature of fear at some
level. Even if it's kind of hidden or it's not, it's not super obvious, it's a vibe, right? It's a,
it's an energy. It's a driver. It pushes from the unconscious because the, the programmed fear
is something that people are not aware of until that moment when they decide they want freedom
so much that they're willing to go and feel that deeper pain of, that programs actually
not just represent but are in, in reality as they vibe. Now, I know this is a lot of information
I'm kind of geeking out on you guys. I'm not expecting anyone to believe this, but, but if you
want to consider it and start taking it in and, and studying it for yourself, that even
the highest emotions of, you know, there's, there's three top emotions as, as big containers that
contain a lot of different nuances and variations on those feelings, but it's some kind of courage,
acceptance and peace. Now we think peace is a destination or peace is a goal or courage is a
goal and, or acceptance is a goal. Now these are what we would consider to be much more positive
emotions and much more positive conveyances, right? So if you're expressing your joy to someone or
you're expressing your gratitude, which might be a courageous thing or it might be acceptance or
peace or you're expressing your appreciation, that can also be very programmed by the way
when people express appreciation. It can be, of course, the other way when people are depreciating
you. Then that's a much more obvious version of fear, but when you're being appreciated,
that can also be a version of fear that's communicated. And it's why sometimes if you've
ever noticed this, that some people will shower you with compliments and they'll,
I'll call it, you know, blow smoke up your butt and they think you're so great and they're elevating
you. I always get a little like, uh-oh around that because I know it's probably going to flip
at some point, right? They come at you with that kind of fake pseudo love at the beginning and
then the tables inevitably are going to turn. It's how programming works. It's two sides of
the exact same coin. But if you're brave enough and you study the higher emotions,
the higher frequency emotions, you will see they are equally as programmed as the low emotions.
So whether you're expressing your negative emotions or you're expressing your positive
emotions, your conveyance may still very well be muddied with fear programming and almost
guaranteed it is. How do we, how do we even get by in life at all given all of the
mechanisms that are at play at one time is kind of a mystery. There's obviously forces beyond us
that are gluing us together in some ways. Now they have found lots of ways to separate us
and divide us and stop us from having clear conveyance. This is something in the House of
Free Will that I have a lot of pride around. I think it's a healthy pride where people can discuss
and disagree and have different perspectives altogether, but they don't get mad at each other.
They don't get frustrated. They don't yell at each other. They don't call each other names
or, you know, oh, you must be stupid for having that thought or anything like that.
I have the great honor and pleasure of having attracted some grown-up people who in their
communication can keep an even keel. When they hear something they don't agree with,
they don't fly off the handle and freak out. As I was mentioning at the beginning of the
stream, I'm having Sarah from Raging Tomatoes on to talk about her debate scene. And if you
go on to her channel, sometimes it's pretty wild. The ad hominems are just flying and they're
interrupting each other and they're raising their voice and they're angry, although that's not
necessarily going to be a problem. Ben Ballersen is one of these that he can raise his voice
and really speak it out, but I don't have any massive aversion to it, maybe because I know
him, maybe because there's deep love, but I don't mind his vibe. Now, maybe if he was yelling
all the time, I wouldn't like it, but he's actually an extremely loving guy. But this kind of style
of communication and everything like that, I'll watch and I'll take it in and it messes you up
just to even listen to it, never mind be part of it. And so when people can communicate and
express these different opinions and different perspectives and different realities without
it being a problem, then it's like so beautiful. It's the most beautiful thing ever. What is the
net result of that that comes of it is, to me, learning expansion. So another example,
including Ben Ballersen, when I had Danny Katz and Ben on to talk about the masculine and
feminine, it was unmangling, the masculine and feminine, my memory serves. And then Danny and
Ben had what looked like to be opposing viewpoints on a subject I can't even remember exactly.
I think there was more than one of them. And it was just no problem. It was no issue. So they
had different perspectives. So what? And if the net effect on me was expansion to include
both of their perspectives in my awareness, not necessarily to take on a belief, not necessarily
to change my mind, these days, it's almost so irrelevant. What I believe, I don't really even
care what I believe anymore. What good is that? What does it get me other than bumping up against
other people's beliefs? Now, I do have some extremely definite experiences and things in
life that have taught me. I was just listening to Alphavetic a little bit this morning and hearing
a therapist and so she was she a therapist or Qigong person, something doing therapy
a little bit. I don't know if I'm using the wrong word. So forgive me if it's not.
And she was saying it part of part of the process
for her was that she would pick a word and it would usually be enough. I found this fascinating
actually enough. It's a very charged word full of meaning. Now, when she got a deeper into it,
I saw more the wisdom of where she was coming from. But this is just to illustrate the point
that say people walk around and they feel like I'm not enough or maybe they're higher
up the emotional scale and they feel like you're not enough. And then the remedy which is highly
propagandized through our media mainstream and alternative is that you are enough and you
deserve that chocolate bar or something because you're enough or you should take that vacation
because you're enough and maybe you're good enough or maybe you're just enough or you're not enough.
And what people don't see about that is that she has them either chant that word or just keep
saying that word. And as if hypnotizing themselves that I am enough, I am enough
is where some people will go with it. Not everybody will go there with it. She actually
revealed she was quite open-ended in what they do with that. So that could be kind of an interesting
experiment. But we have this idea that we want to go from being not enough to being enough
and then we're done. And that's the same trap as feeling like, oh yeah, I just want to convey
all the positive emotions because it is equally as programmed. You're as stuck when you're
enough as when you are enough. In fact, you can be more stuck when you feel to be enough,
just as one example by the way, than you would be as not enough. Why? Because you're not going
to release when you feel like you're enough. You might be more motivated to release when you
feel like you're not enough. So then the higher energy, not only does it not win but it
can in fact keep you more stuck but at a higher place. So that's just one example.
And then we do very much convey through these programs. We don't know we're conveying
through the programs, but we do. And it is inevitable if we're running them, we're going
to be conveying them. So they're going to be in the mix of the communication. People are going
to hear it. They might not be able to consciously know that you're pointing a program at them saying
you're not enough. Get your act together. But they will feel it. Was it Maya Angelou said,
people will not remember what you said to them, but they will remember how you made them feel.
And so this is truth. Now there's a little nuance in there that people don't actually
make you feel a certain way. That's your doing, how you interact with their conveyance,
that they say something. There's also the wisdom that when it rains, get wet. So that if you are,
somebody is attacking you and projecting and kind of barfing their shit on you,
then if you're trying to remain untouched by that, that doesn't affect you. I think
that's a lie because we are in a field together. There's no getting out of it. Oneness is a reality.
And then so you're going to get that. Whatever they're projecting, you're going to get that.
And it will evoke something in you and will probably give you some work to do. And it's
why people, I don't want to surround myself with people that are conveying their crap
all the time unless it's in that exclusive context that they have decided they want to do some healing
work. They're ready and they're willing to take the risk of feeling things they haven't felt before
and seeing things they haven't seen before and they want to make steps. Then it's a totally
different thing and it's a very beautiful thing. And it's not, in that context, it's not about
conveyance to me or me receiving from them. It's actually their own conveyance to themself
is what's happening because we speak to ourself in programs for the most part. That's the default.
Maybe we won't always default like that. Maybe there will actually be some evolution in our
lifetime. Maybe there won't be. We don't know. This is my prayer, the secret agenda,
that there will be. But when you're conveying from programming, then you're going to
ultimately end up having to clean up that mess. Sometimes when two people get together in a
relationship in a romance, it's literally just their programs interacting and they might not have
identical programs. They might be complementary programs, but we think of it as two people
in an exchange, but it ends up being to the degree that they are running and suppressing
programs, which is most everyone but two different degrees, then often you end up with this just
like the budding of the programs coming up against each other. And how can you prove that is if
you go to work on your side of it and you take out your programming, what remains? It's
the transformation is going to come of the polarity that gets created when you drop your
programming, create space, space, that space, then if you need a name for it is love or freedom.
And then that love or that freedom, which is to me the same, is going to polarize and draw
someone towards you or push someone away from you. This is how you clean up your community,
by the way, you do your own inner work and let the energy decide on the relationships.
So you don't have to go and tell everybody what their problem is and have a lot of conflict
and relationships in that way. So I was going to tell a story about this one I've told a few times,
so if you've heard it before then bear with me, but it was a Christmas.
And so this Christmas as a family we had decided we were not going to get presents for people
because we had quite a big family and it was a little odorous so then there was this decision
made that okay we're not going to do that this year. But at the last minute they changed their
mind, I wasn't in on the vote and they decided oh we are going to do presents after all.
So that has always, I don't know about you guys, but Christmas can be a big stress in a lot of
different ways, right, like financially and never mind even if you just have all the money in the
world, but getting good presents for people in an obligatory way, in an obligatory kind of
timeframe that's got a deadline, right, Christmas Day is a deadline and I always found it stressful.
So there was a relief when they decided not to do it for me and then there was some stress
when they decided they were doing it again because I didn't want to lose the approval
of my family when you know say I didn't get it together and get everybody a gift.
Such a massive sigh up the whole Christmas thing, I'm sure I'll get deeper into that
as we get closer to it or some weeks away. And so then I decided I was going to
write letters to my family members, like do it like really personal, each individual writing
all of these letters and this was going to be my gift of time and conveyance and communication.
So I sat down to write these letters and they ended up being the content of them was
basically telling everybody what was wrong with them. That's where I was at back then that I
didn't have a super lot of mastery. I was actually between diagnoses at the time
because I think I was actually in treatments for cancer at that time. If I don't, if I'm
correct in my memory and the timeline. And so yeah, I wrote all these letters out and it
was all the things that I had wanted to tell them, what was wrong with them, where they went wrong,
what they needed to do, what their problem was, what their shortcomings were, where they had maybe
harmed me or all of this honest communication which really is not. And so I luckily read
and reread those letters before sending them and putting them in envelopes for them.
And I read them and then I started to edit and I decided you know what, I only want to express love
to my family. So I went through with that as a standard of nearly every sentence
and I took out everything that was not love. In the end they turned into kind of short letters
because there wasn't a whole bunch of content. And come Christmas morning we were handing our
gifts out and so I was giving people these letters and you could see there was this like trepidation
because I'm kind of already infamous for telling people things they don't want to hear
through my life. And then you could see they were like oh thank you, you know like oh oh oh
I'm not going to look at that. And then one by one over the course of the day
people opened the envelope and they read their letter and you could see that it was like utterly
transforming for me and everyone that they just received a love letter for Christmas.
It was a beautiful, beautiful thing. So I do recommend this as an exercise actually if you're,
especially if you have grievances with family members, you know start by writing
without any sensor or without any filter, anything that you want to tell them,
anything you want to project on them, blame them for in all the feelings that you want to express
and all of that kind of stuff. And then use that standard of love and go back to edit
and see how you could say things in a way that really truly expressed your love.
Not in a manipulative way so that they have a certain, you know it's not honestly love
if you're doing that to manipulate and change how they feel or get their favor or all of that kind
of stuff. That's not love either. So that's why the letters ended up kind of short.
And so let's see where we're at here. Are you guys getting anything out of this?
Is it helpful at all to reflect on?
Yeah like just really thinking about what is necessary, what is necessary, what is needed
and what's the definition of necessary conveyance is what's going to serve everyone involved.
What will serve you, what will serve them if it's a two-party kind of a communication
process or maybe you know it's one to many in the context where somebody has,
you know we call it an audience, I don't really call it an audience.
I do see it more of an exchange but in this case it's say people often end up
coming into my world and maybe they bridge that they're not just watching from a distance on a
live stream but they come on the chat and then maybe they go the next step and they send me an
email, maybe they come in the house of free will, maybe we get to know each other at a different
level and so sometimes when they, when we have our first meeting they have the sense that they
already know me. Why? Because I go on the airwaves and I talk about myself and I say
some personal stories about my life and you spend some time in my living room where I am
right now and maybe you know I'm in your living room or your garage or something and it seems
like we are connected. That's one of the beautiful things about the tool that of being able to
broadcast one to many is a beautiful thing but it ends up being like when they come at first it was
really a weird experience for me because I'd meet them and they're like oh yeah I know you and they
give me a big hug like we've been connected and related and I don't know them from Adam,
like I have no idea who they are, I don't know anything about them, I don't know if we should
be good friends and I always take it as a good sign that if they like me then we probably have
something to work with and you know and it took me some time to just to just let that reaction of mine
go and not have to be awkward and not have to you know if they want to jump in at the deep end
and act like we already know each other that's okay I can go there I'm deep and I like deep
exchanges much more than at like any superficial exchanges by far but the you know when it comes to
just really what is necessary to communicate what is going to serve because I can sit and talk to
myself all day long about these things but does it actually help anybody? Does it further anyone's
cause? Does it create greater connection and to me this is the ultimate standard is the connection
that's what communication is for to bring us together not to separate us you know in one of
the headlines of the posts that I wrote it's like communication has got so much easier and so much
harder right with things like texts and sometimes people will text me and you can't tell what the
tone of where they're coming from you can't tell what exactly it's hard to interpret sometimes
especially if you read a text really fast it might seem like they're saying one thing but
they're really not saying that I'll always go in and reread and just like did I get it even
just from these words so you have such limited data to go on when it comes to a lot of digital
communication that it it maybe isn't enough to have a true exchange in communication and to
know what serves right like I can't I can't know that's that's why I actually like to talk to
people in my world like I was saying I prefer to have a people in the chat and and and when
I got stuck in my work I just immediately started booking conversations with people who
are in my community and that was such a beautiful thing to learn who they are and now to have
some like I now I actually have a living breathing person in my head not that they
weren't always that but now that now it's real for me too it was already real for them because
I come out and speak quite a bit but now I get to be part of that relationship and it's through
that connection that the fertility is like that's where that's where things can be birthed that's
where new things can be created that's where you know your your awareness can be expanded to
include more than you might have been able to include before you had that connection so that
is the potential that can happen for people on all sides so yeah what will serve what's actually
necessary these days there's I communicate way less and you know especially when when I'm
like irritated by something or I'm triggered by something or activated then I very often
I'm not going to communicate because why I've just lived long enough to know that
you're gonna I'm gonna create more problems I'm gonna create problems that you know if you
already have a problem then you're gonna end it with more problems to layer on top of it
and it gets harder and harder to back out of the problem and into the actual connection
that is in potential all the time so the digital world makes it easy to connect
and it makes it easy to find your people if you're brave enough to show yourself and to show
who you are and to speak out and you know my king hero chat on on telegram I appreciate there's
there's a handful of people who will who will come and say stuff and risk putting out their
opinion or their knowledge and give some everybody else something to bounce off of or riff off of or
to disagree with or agree with or ask questions around and I get to know those people well so I
do invite you to the king hero chat if you have not come on to that before on telegram then
you're most welcome I will see if I can grab a link that's where I spend most of my time in
conveyance so let's see where is telegram this I'll just share the the chat there's also a channel
but I believe when you sign up for the chat you're in the channel or something like that no that didn't
work at all just drop that try this one more time this is weird sometimes I use notes a lot
does anyone else use their notes a lot and then it uh see what happens here nah okay I have to
close I have to close notes I'll grab that link later notes is uh got some indigestion let's see
I rely on it a lot and yeah so I think that I might be getting to the end of my conveyance
today I just thought this was a good one and if you're having trouble in your life
and you're not getting your point across and you're not being heard it's worth investigating
there was a time this this was one of the points I wanted to get across today was
there was a time where I thought that if I just learned to be a skillful enough communicator
and I learned to be very precise with my communication and I was precise with the
meaning of my words and I was very articulate in the process that somehow I would solve all
of the problems it's not true it's not true at all now it does does that mean it's not worthwhile
to become a better communicator to study how does the language work not that I'm perfect by
any stretching imagination at it or um you know but I but I did take it to enough of a level
and in relationships and especially in romantic relationships where I saw that just me being
a clear communicator was not the answer to all the problems and why is that because the whole
nature of the unconscious and the unconscious communication that's taking place so just being
able to say the right words and do the right words this was one other point I wanted to make just
about word jail but first I'm noticing that Diane is in the chat and she said uh I just
came looking for some fresh air and here you are I'm late you have to watch the replay from
the beginning later nice so Diane I'm really glad you are here and will not wheel I get it
yep yeah that's part of the part of the digital communication age is that the uh sometimes the
the digits get all made for you right like that you it's it's hilarious it became such a point
of comedy if you make a message very quickly and you just spit it out there and then come back
to it later and realize oh you sound like you're retarded and that you don't know the English
language at all I think that was definitely part of the design of the way that our devices
finish our words and and mistake one word for the other was to in fact make us look like idiots
and oh yeah voice to text I use that a lot and that's that can be problematic I have to be careful
to go and I'm sure you guys have seen mangled messages uh at the time at times for me it's
is a good way to go because personally I like to be more conversational if I'm like you know
tapping letters on a keyboard it's easier for me to type through with my with my hands uh or it was
before I damaged one of my digits but yeah so I use a lot of voice to text and then you go back
and you see how did the uh AI mangle what is it all AI I guess I don't know you know how did the
device mangle my words and my conveyance I was clear I was saying the right things and uh and then it
mangles it it should be it should be learned voice to text should learn
who about you which is sort of creepy and and some people wouldn't want that it has the
advantage that it does know you say certain things over and over again and that's what you mean
and uh but it doesn't seem to learn around me which is fine voice to text is a little a little crazy
but it's so handy it's so useful and you can express much more conversationally that's something
that I learned in my post marketing world post business world corporate world kind of thing
is communication that we would always do at a kind of highfalutin level that would be written
for say media it would be written for um you know the the cultural context of a particular company
we would be using words it the anything but conversational right it was formal it was it was
meant to come across as as as business not personal and and so that was a lot of my training
in writing at the time was was to be in this place it can be very intellectual there are no
feelings in there and um and then so in in my work when I became self-employed after surviving
cancer I I learned to flip that and become much more conversational in my writing
and I discovered that being conversational in writing communicates much more it's it's uh
it creates much greater potential for exchange because in the formal part of language you're just
talking at people and and they will feel separate from you because of that language but if you use
words that you would actually speak this is very different and and you can often edit your own
writing by speaking it out loud and asking yourself would I actually say that would I
use that adverb if I was just talking with someone in a conversational kind of a way
there's like no I wouldn't use that flowery adverb or or a string of them in a paragraph
and and then being conversational being it means that somebody can feel like I'm speaking with
them not at them and that's part of you know being able to write a good email to my list I mean
I have a wonderful community in that I'm in contact with my emails and I always try to
write in a way that's going to be with them not at them because no one wants to have
stuff spewing at them at all so let's see whether any I just want to see if there's any
important points I almost always get off these and realize that there was some big points that
I missed
yeah and and yeah where there's urgency to get a message across that's that's kind of a red flag
too sometimes you don't have the time to go and reflect and just take inventory and do your
inner work and like something needs to happen right away this is where training in all of that
will show up for you when there's an urgency to get a message across in a timely way and that
can happen but if yeah if you if you have the luxury of some time to gain clarity first
you're definitely going to be better off um yeah that I think the main point is just that
people are tragically lost in their programming and as a result they don't have authentic
communication and connection because of it so that's my prayer for everyone here that's taking
this in and for uh human beings in general so yeah I think that's pretty much maybe maybe
one more point give me one second there we go I'm a little naughty from the last couple weeks of
detox but um one of the things I wanted to talk about just to emphasize when people are communicating
online is that it's very easy to in the void of say a response maybe you put things out
in the into the airwaves you make a post on facebook or on x or instagram or wherever you are
and no one responds and or maybe you know a very small response and maybe you poured your heart and
your soul into it and you really communicated in an authentic way from your own heart and then it's
like crickets and nobody nobody responds and it's very very tempting in that space it's very
tempting to invent that oh they didn't like it or oh um they're a bunch of assholes or uh you know and
this I will be honest for those of you listening on on facebook that uh sometimes when I put things
out especially my interviews and my work on on facebook and I get crickets it is like okay
well what is that what is that that they're somehow not you know like they can they it just seems like
if I make something if I make a funny meme or I make something unrelated or make something you know
I don't know just just for fun because um I also find social media to be fun I want to
check my post from today what I said and oh I did get some comments I actually asked a question
and sometimes it is I will draw the conclusion like I don't know like people there just don't
really like my live streams they don't like my work I don't know so but am I concluding in a
wrong way yes it's uh highly highly possible that I am not being accurate when I draw conclusions
like that so where at all possible even though I'm still learning to take my own advice here
where at all possible suspend any conclusions or say you text somebody and they don't respond
right away some people's style will be to continue texting like they will oh they didn't respond
to one message I'm going to send another message and another one and another one and another one
and another one and you should know that that makes it more unlikely for them to respond
and this is something I've learned when I reach out to especially somebody I know
who's busy I will send them one message maybe if I don't hear back in a day and I want to
clarify something I might send I might include a second one or something you know if it's relevant
actually important kind of thing maybe they'll get two from me if if they don't respond
then I will leave it and just leave it with them maybe I'll go back at some point
um there are times to follow up and just say like hey did you get my message you might follow
up on another medium maybe you're going to send an email did you get my text or something like that
to me that's a very honest approach rather than coming to any conclusions about what
what the meaning of a lack of response is which is so tempting to just and it's it's
it's going to be one of two the meaning is going to be one of two things it's going
to be something about yourself or it's going to be something about them and it's not usually
in favor it's like I'm not good enough to respond right and then they don't love me
they don't approve of me they don't value me they don't appreciate me they don't recognize me
and you know I've been working on this a lot because there definitely are some people that
I I'm like like why don't they just don't get it they don't they don't value it they don't
they don't want it um all of this kind of thing and then and then it's like well am I going to think
that they're bad and wrong because of that or am I going to think that I'm bad and wrong
wrong because of that and that's how programming speaks either it's your problem or it's my problem
you might go into the high high and say like there's no problem
but that's not really free that's just like oh I'm you know it's not that I'm not good enough I am good
enough but this is not this is not a free place so by being able to just suspend and keep it open
and and stay innocent drawing no conclusions about yourself or about the other that you're
communicating with that's really I want to call it the high road but it's more like the
free road so I'll challenge you guys this week to see if in your communication in your
conveyances in your digital this is a nuts that you could just keep an open mind just
keep stay open don't conclude don't think for them don't don't decide how they feel
especially about you never decide how somebody feels that is just the pile of crap why
because emotions are a moving target if you decide how somebody feels it's so fiction it's so nothing
and yes maybe they did feel that in a moment and maybe they will feel that again in a moment but
it's really irrelevant it's that is not the thing to be conveyed is our feelings the thing to be
conveyed just to draw a line under the whole purpose of this the thing to actually convey
is love and that comes from freedom because freedom and love are the same
so yeah I was just looking at my post today it wasn't that popular just a couple of people
liked it but I did get some responses from it here maybe I'll share it and show you guys
sometimes I will just put things out I I have like an interesting question
I guess I can stop that for now and and then it's fun because why it creates engagement
and I get to know people in the process so let's see is it here nope it's not there yet
there it is can you guys see that at all maybe I'll make it bigger yeah so um
I said in my work with clients over the past two decades I've noticed there are
three to four fears that are most intensely suppressed can you name them so let's see if anybody
I didn't offer a prize but I let's see if anybody got the prize Marta said you have a fear that your
truth is not true that I've believed in I don't know what that means now my life is broken
I made too many bad choices she's a fear that her truth is not true okay so that's good
see like that's data I that wasn't in my my top three or four
but that's that's beautiful that's really good data for me see how like if I just have this open
I'm open to the exchange and I'm open to this information that she's bringing so that's
that's like really cool to hear the fear that your truth is not true so that's amazing I'll
back and respond to that John said spiders and clowns and I asked him what what's even worse than
that clowns are definitely scary Melanie said fear of failure fear of not being good enough
fear of death so Melanie is a trained coach and she's very very versed in programming and I consider
her to be one of the coaches that can help me which I am very grateful for and so she's tuning
in these are these she's she's pointing two programs for the most part although the fear of failure
could be any of those programs but yeah the the fear of death is on my top three and four so she
got one of them she gets a prize and Chrissy Snow said personal safety social interactions and
health so she's asking and yeah so there there are underneath that say personal safety is
definitely on the top of the list like like Melanie said fear of dying right fear of not existing
that is that is on the top of the heap absolutely fear of personal situation social interactions
yeah so like kind of social anxiety and health and if you drill down underneath those like why
why is there a social anxiety why there is fear around health health is sort of an obvious
one that can be more of the fear of dying right like if you're not healthy and you're struggling
then you might die right and let's see Diane said I'll just interrupt my post here she said
if I find I make a meaningless post and I get lots of comments and likes but when the post is a
serious concern it's like I don't exist right so you're having some maybe similar
kind of experiences possibly and for me I wonder if it's that people are looking for an outlet to
more fun and ease in their life as opposed to all the seriousness of the world right yeah so like
I can be now I consider myself a Scorpio my birthday is actually coming up in nine days and but it
turns out I'm a Libra and so but I have adopted this just like I can be a serious person and
I can be someone who's like you know I would like to do comedy I do aspire to comedy it's possible
in my next life I will be a comedian it's possible I'd like to do that but but yeah so I can I can
empathize with that that sometimes people they don't want anything heavy or anything serious or
meaningful which all you know serious can go along with meaningful
and yep nice to see Melanie here Maya said fear of pain came up for you as you detox lately yeah
yeah fear of pain a lot of people feel like they have more fear of pain and suffering than they do
of dying but I think it's the other way around that it's just easier to fear pain and and less
easy to feel the fear of not existing so and they might be very intimately tied as well but
I'm sorry you've been going through that that sucks so just going back to this post oh Sean
tuned in I really love S.B. Elger he said death are not not surviving yep that's right on the
list being humiliated or failing that might be another program losing the love and approval
of people humiliation is definitely a fear not knowing what's next unpredictability overwhelming
sense of control or no control yeah and separation right so Sean is also a trained coach in in the
journey code style and so he's beautifully pointing right to programs in the in the in his answers
there oh and Diane who is here also chimed in I hope you don't mind if I read your post
fear of abandonment interesting I was interested to see if anyone would point towards those so that's
that's one of the child shadows one of the the top if there's a top three
fears of the child one is the fear of abandonment another is the fear of betrayal
abandonment and betrayal very close very close in in there you know there there there can be a
difference and people often polarize nature those are the who are more like a nature child will fear
betrayal more than abandonment the those that have the magic child side of the magic more so
that would be me have a greater degree of fear of abandonment and she says she feels it's
possibly embedded in every human and yeah it's it's like a hard wiring right that's what the
archetypes are they're actually hard wiring and so they have certain scripts and prescripts not just
of ways of being but ways of thinking and ways of feeling that the whole architecture of our
inner life gets formed and most likely every newborn in some way shape or form when their
needs were not met which is kind of the vast majority of everybody right like a good luck meeting
the every single need of an infant every single day every single moment of their life even that you
know even the very best heroic efforts will probably fall short and then never mind the style of
like oh cry it out and they should sleep alone as a newborn and all that absolute crap I'm
sorry that boils my blood when I hear about it now left in the crib too long delayed feeding
punishments they didn't understand or or deserve by any means the list is long where a child can
feel abandoned I know it's tragic actually totally tragic fear of showing up as our true self
interesting where is my list now I want to compare it to that did I even bring it I
wasn't sure I was gonna get it yeah let's see if I'll I'm gonna share the punchline with you guys
just for thanks for being here with me I will I will share my answers as soon as I go through
these and yeah if you're showing up as your true self that I think that has to make the list
I think that has to make the list that makes the list more like five rather than four
um yep yep being your actual self that is terrifying isn't it good point
fear of not being understood that's kind of what we're talking about today yet that major fear
of not being understood is kind of a nemesis and then the fear of the dark
uh but she puts it in parentheses and evil spirit satan devil evil people because we've
been programmed from day one that there's something out there that's going to get us
the boogeyman yep exactly yeah thanks for your very thoughtful response day and
you can always be serious on my facebook and then juliana said uh fear of dying so she got
that one according to my standard or not my standard my observations uh being ostracized
by the group yeah yeah yeah that uh that fear of separation I might have to but that that also
can back up to the fear of not existing that fear of dying so I think that folds in there
and uh yeah fear of dying was next Maya said I'll take this down for now
and uh Diane said we forget physical pain otherwise we would never have more than one child
yep yep we'd never have more than one anything because everything turns to pain at some point
fear of loneliness fear of being alone yep
I can feel my voice is starting to peter out I'll probably start to wrap it up soon
and hello uh a dot 911 I like your name you never let your baby sleep in a separate room
God bless you I won't I won't judge or call anybody out that did that but it's not natural
that those children are in you for nine months they should be on you for at least nine months
after that right that's how you create much greater potential for security and a fear of
scarcity yeah interesting now that could bridge over absolutely everything that could be like the
maha maha meaning great in Sanskrit could be the the maha fear fear of scarcity yep
and I think it could be equally paired with fear of uh abundance too which they often end up like
that that you fear the good thing as much as you fear the bad thing especially because we're in a
weird world and you didn't mean that children were a pain yeah no they are a pain they're
beautiful pain they're very purposeful pain this kind of uh giving away one of my answers
and you meant that childbirth was physically painful exactly yeah yeah well the whole gamut
right the the whole the whole gamut of it when I had one child a young a young child
then when he was more like a baby and the toddler I marveled at people who had more than one
I'm like how do you do that how is that even possible I I thought that was just like
off the charts but I but I but I got it I totally get you yeah so if I share my top
four or five fears that I notice people have the biggest scariest things like everybody said
death or non-existence that is like the biggest one the next one is the fear of
meaninglessness right that you could get to the end of your day and have that that
our realization that your day didn't mean anything that not for yourself or not for others
and you know what what is the making of meaning is purpose so those could be the fear of
purposelessness I don't know this is one that I find is is very very big also very suppressed
because sometimes we can't really or we feel like we can't do anything about that in the
in the lives that we have in slave world so it's possible that fear of meaninglessness and the
fear of purposelessness might be the actual same thing that's why I said three or four
fear of being yourself I add it to the list because yes that is massive
and then there's one more fear and and this is a fear of something that we would
consider to be positive can you guys guess what the fear is of
just for fun in these last couple of minutes should I come up with a prize if anybody gets it
this one is shocking give me just one second please I am back oh interesting answer Diane
fear of loving yourself that's so that's so tricky that the the spiritual world
propagandized that we should love ourselves and what I think ends up happening yeah Maya's
more onto it but that's I'll just talk about this that the fear of loving yourself the the
spiritual world oh you have to love yourself you can't love anyone if you don't love yourself
and what it actually ends up doing is engaging the program the love hate program so as if you
want to go from hating yourself to loving yourself now who could argue with with that right it seems
that seems good and right that seems good and right but when love has an opposite and it's just
the other side of the hate coin and you hate yourself and then you love yourself and
you hate yourself and you love yourself and you hate your partner and then you love them
and you hate them you love them right then that's that's um that's not it and and then but the fear
of loving yourself interesting interesting so it's yeah I'm going to give that a little bit
more thought thanks for that and then Maya said the fear of living which to me is is actually
at the vibration level identical with the fear of not existing now that might not be obvious
people might go huh what are you talking about but when you really truly observe the fear of
dying it can show up as that fear of living so it's it's one more thing Maya can you guess
it's it's like a kind of punchline it's the word that I use to describe that which has no words
there's a lot of names of that I use it a lot it's my highest value it's uh people chant
about it but they don't have a hot clue what it is they make it relative to things
which makes it not that thing I know I'm just speaking in riddles here see if anybody gets it
I'll give you one more minute have a little drink of something here so
fear of health interesting yeah yeah so I think you guys are going in the in the right
general direction with that so so the biggest fear of all is freedom
this is the biggest fear hands down I see it over and over and over again
and the more developed that somebody is in their release work the more they're going to
be able to tap into this basic fear and you know simple metaphor can describe it
when you try when a bird has lived in a cage its whole life and you open the door and you're
going to set it free it freaks out right acts like you're trying to kill it freedom registers as
as a danger it's the same purpose registers as a danger meaning can also register as a danger
of course death registers as a danger but life registers as a danger being yourself the easiest
thing in the world to be yourself registers as a danger and this is pointing all towards upside
down world and upside down world gets immense and that's the unconscious I'm not just talking
this is what we don't know it's inverted that's why all the inversions work on people because
they're all inverted inside themselves already this makes people highly controllable it makes them
like they don't want freedom they in fact want to be controlled and you can't make somebody want
freedom that's that is the elixir by the way if you can if you can want freedom and face your
fears of freedom then this is very productive work to me it's like the ultimate work
so yeah and and that's an interesting point that everyone's definition of freedom varies
it's why I'll never define it for anybody and why I know it to be undefinable
and I can say things about it I could probably talk all day about that
and and it won't touch it right so it's it's the same as all of that which can't be named which is
the same but we can know it even though it can't be named and it can't be described and it's not a
thing but we can be scared of it so yeah you know language language falls apart when you get
into ultimate truth it just does and a lot of people end up putting themselves in word jail by
trying to be too careful with their words this was one other point I wanted to make and and then
they choose their words so carefully that there's no flow in their communication there's no freedom
in the communication and they're so busy trying to not say like you know in the alternative
law world this is the best example they started always saying they're never saying the word understand
because they sigh opt us into believing that if you say understand in some kind of official public
context that you are agreeing to stand under somebody else and it's a pile of crap you guys
it's just a pile of crap all they want to know is that you have ears to hear and you're
understanding them so that you know you're not retarded and they can't you can't come back later
and go I had no idea what you were talking about they are like do you get it it's not the word
they they want to know that you are actually getting it and and then so then then they start
saying oh I understand or I this or that and then we're we we interrupt our own authentic
freedom of expression by doing machinations with the words and what words should I use and not word
and everything you know and and and I learned say about the word God which to me is freedom
right not as a thing it's a source of anything and of everything
but this is something that you know the word God if you go and you look at the word God
turns out it's not a good one it's not a good word it just isn't the the source of it if you go back
in the etymology and the Hebrew and and and the words they swapped in and everything it's a cultural
sigh up that we use the word God but I've used it my whole life and I've used it to identify
the unidentifiable right to have a word so we could convey and and connect and and you know
I I can say the word God and people can be reminded of their source and they can know that
and that's a very high conveyance it's like the ultimate conveyance we used to play this game
in India when I went I had a guru on a mountain I went eight times to sit in front of him and
and be with the people and we did something called satsang some people might recognize that
it's the company of truth and this could be one of those fears like that your truth isn't your
truth like I think it was Diana was saying or maybe somebody else and and this company of truth
we would be using words to to convey now none of the words ended up accurate they're just not
once you get into that realm you're off the map of the intellect you're off the map of the emotions
you're you're off the map you're you're like at the source of the map but if everybody's on the same
with the same intention of freedom through the conversation of satsang through the exchange
then you get that right and and it amplifies we're two or more or gathered even though I think the
mental effect mangled that or something like that that doesn't exist anymore when you get
witness to the truth that's what satsang means keeping the company of truth and that's what
this is kind of is breath of fresh air for me is is it kind of satsang where we can sit
around the fire of truth and we can we can point towards it with our words knowing the
words don't really qualify it they don't contain it but we can still share an experience of truth
of freedom of purpose all of these things that are nameless and have have no ability to describe
and yet can be conveyed why why is that because we are at the source of the conveyance that's
where we actually are that's the reality of it and this is our greatest fear so if I have a wish
for humanity it is to get past these big ones right fear of dying fear of purpose fear of
meaninglessness which are two sides of that same coin fear of being your authentic self fear of
freedom and maybe all of those are the same anyway maybe they all boil down into that
basic fear of not existing all right so I think I covered the waters of what I wanted to convey
and thank you so much for being here for those of you who participate and and play along I will
be back next Friday which will be let's see what the date will be a few
I'm going to guess that 14 7 plus 7 is 14 I'll be back on Friday the 14th at 2 p.m. central
standard time and I'm starting to come and get better from that disorder the time
change disorder is starting to wear off a little bit I'm I'm not nearly as traumatized as I
was before so that's good that's progress all right my dearest I love you very much you
can find me at Beth martins.com you can do a if you'd like to help me share out this
stream I would love that here is a link in the chat of the best link to share
that goes to my blog first and then they can choose which platforms they'd like to go on I
think I did fail on rumble today so I'll have to go in and upload this to rumble you can do a
king hero archetype quiz to find yourself on the map of purpose and start facing some of those fears
of the purposeful or the meaningless life because this is definitely a massive breakthrough and
I know that if enough people were able to answer to their callings that they would become
uncontrollable in the process so that is my hope for humanity this is the level that I work at
I do help people in the realm of coaching whether that's personal one-on-one or in groups when I'm
running groups there will be a course coming up not until January but in the meantime I if you're
interested in receiving some assistance or learning through one of my courses
just put your hand up reach out to me could be on telegram could be on
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if you're looking for any assistance then you can do that and if you do this quiz first it's always
really fun just to find out where you are at at this time you can do this quiz more than once
by the way I don't recommend doing it all the time but just to see how are you traveling
on that hero's journey I had a friend yesterday that I talked to one second
and and he was saying like what's the this is a beautiful point maybe well to serve its own
stream but we'll see he was just talking about like what's the culmination of the hero's journey
because that's a big part of the focus that I have the archetypes of the hero's journey
and he said like we know what's when are you done when are you finished and and then
but he knows me by now that I treat all of those things to be scales or they are scales
spirals that when you get to the end you're at the beginning again that's a basic premise of
all of the work that I do and so the same the same answer the purpose of the archetypes the
purpose of knowing the hero's journey finding yourself is freedom right to get the purpose
of the map is to get off of the map so I'll leave you with that might be sound like a
little bit of a riddle to some people and otherwise I think that is going to be close to it let me
see if I can set up my outro there it is
and so much love to you guys thank you for coming I appreciate it it's been fun for me I hope it
has been for you as well