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Hello, and welcome to Beth of Fresh Air. It is Friday, November 7th. It is 2025.

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I like saying that. It just gives me some context in the world. I can be one of those people that

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forgets what day it is and loses their grounding. I'm all air in my astrology, and so today I'm

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going to be talking about conveyance and I'm not talking about, you know, trucks and buses and

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roadways and all of that kind of thing, which we generally use this word to mean, but I'm talking

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about communication. And I will, while we're waiting for a few people to come on, I'll just

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talk about, I was just doing a snippet with the author, Mark Archer, who I find absolutely

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fascinating. He, this is completely unrelated, although I can almost always relate everything

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together. Come say hi in the chat if you're already around, by the way. And so we did a House of

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Free Will snippet, which is a weekly video podcast that I do privately. So this is only for

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members, and every single week I've been putting out a stream. So there's a really good

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library of snippets and Mark Archer has been on for a few snippets. And today we were talking

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about the symbols of Cain and Abel in the Bible. And so if you've followed me for some years

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over the past while, you know, I went through a Christian phase or, you know, reclaiming my

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Christian roots kind of phase and I got lost in the weeds there. And it was kind of a

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twisty weird turn and start to the House of Free Will. And I'm over it. I'm on the other side of it

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now, but still fascinated by some of those symbols. And because why they are such a huge determinant

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of our culture for better or for worse, right? Like whether you like it or you don't like it,

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or you agree with the Bible or you don't agree with it. It's been, you know, the biggest

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most highly debated controversial elements of our culture. Some people might argue like hands down

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the most controversial. And so I just loved that conversation. We had to cut it short. So it means

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that we're going to end up with at least a part two on this subject. But it was absolutely

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fascinating to talk about. And going right to the roots of it, this is this is where I

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appreciate it because he's going into the actual words of the Bible and what they

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convey in reality, as opposed to what has been interpreted and taken often out of context.

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And anyway, so that's really fun. And if you're interested in being a member of the House of

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Free Will, then you can apply to do so at my website, bathmartins.com. And I can probably

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find you a link right to the application page. Things are evolving. I'm in the process of

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changing the agreement, making it much more simple. So if that will, that will probably

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make it better for people. So I will grab this link. And yeah, so here it is in the chat,

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if anybody would like to grab that from the live. And so we are here on Facebook and YouTube and

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X and even rumble is live right now. It looks like we did not get vigilante TV up, unfortunately.

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So I'll have to upload to that or maybe that is maybe we are live on vigilante TV,

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and I'll have to upload to rumble. So one or the other still getting my bearings with this

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new show. If it's possible to share out the link for today and help me get some people to find

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this stream, that would be great. It's kind of sad in this world because, you know,

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whether it's shadow banning or whatever the exact problem is, then yeah, can be harder to

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get people on. But by the way, coming up on the King Hero's journey, I'm going to be

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interviewing Sarah. Now I'm knowing her last name to be Bobara. I might be completely wrong

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about that because it might be just a scream name. I'm waiting to hear from her. She is the host of

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Raging Tomato. It is a debate channel that Ben Balderson recently introduced me to. I was on a

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debate, which is pretty funny because that's not really my wheelhouse. He made me go and it

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was super fun and right away hit it off with Sarah, who booked me for an interview. It was

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a fantastic interview. She just did an amazing job and had a number of epiphanies during our

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discussion, which I loved. That was super fun for me. And so you can join us on, this is going to

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be November 12th at 1pm central time, a little different time, but that's when she was available.

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So that's coming up. I'm also going to be interviewing Christine Massey. So that's what's

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on the horizon. So let's get into this, convey. Communication is a very big part of life.

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It's undeniable. You can't go through life without having some system of communication.

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And when babies are pre-verbal, meaning they don't have words yet and they don't have the

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developmental level to be able to actually make words and say, like, hey, mom, that whatever you just

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put me on or put me in or put in me sucks, then what do they do? They emote. They will cry.

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They will make sounds, right? That's something that right from the get go, they have the ability

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to make sounds and they convey, for anybody who pays attention, you can see what's happening for

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that infant, right? You can see they're either, you know, have a kind of content, peacefulness

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in their nature. And even though they're squirmy and moving and everything like that,

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it's giving, it's conveying a positive content kind of vibe. And then they can also be like,

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you know, when their face screws up and they're making sounds that are, say, not as pretty and a

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little more, some people might say annoying or, you know, that to me is by design that nature

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installed that baby with the ability to convey things are good and things are not good,

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which I'm sure there's a lot more nuance in there. Some people pride themselves in being

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able to actually read all the signs from babies. And you can, you can actually teach babies sign

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language, which is pretty funny. So I'll tell a quick little story about my son when he was

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before two, somewhere between one and two. And I was feeding him and I had this idea that I

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was going to teach him sign language. So I learned the sign for more and I believe this is it

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more, more, more like this. And so I was, I was feeding him and, and then I'm, I'm trying to get

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him to say like, does he want more or is he, is he finished? So I'm going like this to him more,

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would you like more? And then he says to me more, like he actually said the word and made the

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sign at the same time. And I'm like, Oh, we don't need signs. We're good. We're off to the

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races with the words here. So this is natural. And it's something that is absolutely essential

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for a number of reasons that we get into this kind of conveyance of, of information and data.

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We live in a world that is completely datified. I think I just made that word up. So let me

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say, they want more and more data. They are eating us alive for our data. That's why they want you to

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wear a smart watch and they want to read your biometrics and more and more. The online world is

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being governed by the, you know, facial recognition and the airports are, are well on their way to

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being governed in that facial recognition kind of a place. And they are gathering up our data.

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Now, this is a totally not benevolent use of this conveyance. And, and God knows, you know,

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when I think about all that data that they have to just manage and compile and deal with. And

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to me, that sounds like the biggest burden ever that they would, they would have all of this

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data. But of course, that's why the biggest growing businesses right now are those that

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deal with the data. And I will go so far as to say that the devil is in the data.

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So that has inverted this very pure mechanism or function of a human being. Now, all animals

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convey in one way or another, more like the baby does. But humans are the only ones that I'm

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aware of who convey through words. Now, it's not limited, of course, to words, but words are on,

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I don't know where they would scale. Are they on the top? Or are they actually kind of down low?

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I had one of my professors in university said that, that words were actually only five percent

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of our conveyance. And that communication happened, 95% of communication happened on different

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levels. People know about body language. They know about what else the body language, the tone of the

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voice, algorithms now read tone of voice. For example, if somebody is very angry and intense

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when they're giving their message on their podcast, and maybe they swear a lot, the algorithms will

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de-select them. Now, I'm de-selected for other reasons, I guess I have to imagine, because I don't

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get angry on my podcasts. And I don't swear that much once in a while. I swear a lot more in the

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house of free will, just so you know, if that's any fun for you. So I grew up in a communication

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business. That was my parents' firm in marketing and communication. And so this was

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their forte. This was their strong point. My dad was very often hired to be the go-between, the person

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who would communicate, say, between a company and the government or the company and policy makers,

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between the company and politicians, which ultimately ended up being the policy makers.

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And what they called stakeholders, so all of the surrounding elements, you know, so if I just take

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one of the clients that we used to work for, McCain Foods, and so the stakeholders would be, some of

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the stakeholders would be the potato farmers, or they would be the packages on the other,

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what other, their own packages. Who else would the stakeholders be, you know, policy makers

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and politicians and everything like that? So my dad in particular was hired to be the

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go-between. And especially when it came to some kind of a crisis, when things were falling apart,

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when there was, I remember when Acrylamide became, we became aware of Acrylamide,

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which is an ingredient in French fries. And Acrylamide is a known carcinogen, so it's

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poison. And so when it hit the airwaves and it hit the newspapers and those days, you know,

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back to the old media, television, radio, and newspapers, then it was a bit of a crisis for

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that company, because if everybody knew that when they ate their French fries, they were consuming

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a known carcinogen, Acrylamide, that would go badly. And I remember thinking, oh, this is

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going to be the end of McCain Foods or McCain French fries anyway. I hope I don't

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get in any trouble talking about them. But as always with all things that are conveyed,

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and you think, oh, this knowledge is out there, the cat's out of the bag, and we can't put it back

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in, and everybody knows. And then it really turned in, I mean, my dad did some communication

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around that. I don't even remember exactly the details, but it turned into a nothing,

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as usual, and people went on to eat their French fries. But yeah, so that wasn't even the best example

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of that. Because yeah, people just go into amnesia, they learn things like that, and then they

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just, they either don't care, or there's too many things to care about. That's, I think,

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one of the strategies in our world is that they convey a great deal of wrongs to us. There's

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the, I don't know if I can say that word, but like the doom and word that starts with a P,

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but sounds like born. Can I say that word? I heard people on a debate censoring that word,

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so they just kept calling it P, because the debate was actually about it. But that's how we've

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operated with this communication coming at us on a regular basis, that something wrong is

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happening. The meteor is going to hit, the virus is going to kill everybody, the earth is going to

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turn it, it's going to be an ice age any second, and the, oh, and it's going to be

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actually global warming, and everything's melting. I saw some memes this morning showing

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pictures of little pieces of ice that stick up on an iceberg, and it was 30 years ago,

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and then they show the current page, and it's like a current image, and it's exactly the same.

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We've grown up with a lot of that kind of conveyance flooding our world, and so we've learned

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to dumb down to it. We've learned not to take it in, because if you accept, you fully imbibe,

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and take in that conveyance, then it's going to bring about a state of constant panic, constant

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fear, constant unrest, and nobody can live like that. That's actually one of the advantages

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that happened in our Covidius Maximus era, where they were, at first it worked perfectly,

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they were screaming and yelling, everybody's in danger, you're killing the grandmas,

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and at first it was like, oh, okay, okay, and when they wave their finger at you and they said,

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go home, people actually did go home, but as time went on, there was some fear, fatigue took place,

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and people dumbed down and numbed out and tuned out, which it turned out to be a really good

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thing that they just stopped listening to that scary message that was coming through

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the screen. Now that is not exactly where you want people, because that's sent them down into that

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numbed out, when you dumb down and you just close your senses and you stop taking in the

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information. I think this is very much by design that people end up in apathy, and their senses

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are numbed out in a way to protect themselves, so they don't have a heart attack every time they

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go out into the world or take in a message of some kind. With the world of communication,

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I found fascinating, because you could very easily manipulate perception, oh, hey, Melanie,

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either dispel fear or you could create fear. Even though something, you know,

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a company is doing something bad and wrong, you could create the image of them doing something

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good and right. My dad's approach was not to be dishonest about it, but it was always to turn

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the negative message and communication that had reached the public into a positive,

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and that would be like, oh, we found out that our, you know, like, oh, the spill, my dad worked

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for CN and they would often have train wrecks, they would fall off the rails, and then they

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would spill their guts, and that could be oil and everything like that, and then so my dad

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would go heavy on the communication about what CN was doing to remedy the situation,

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to make it better and to build up greater relationships with the public that otherwise

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would have been damaged. So that was a very, very interesting upbringing for me to see,

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and then to compare that and to contrast it with my personal family life behind the scenes

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and to watch how communication is the Achilles heel for most relationships, most families,

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right? Communication doesn't happen very fluidly or very easily or very honestly,

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and beyond the honesty can be where you're not even aware of yourself. How could you be

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honest with anybody else? So you're not aware of even what would an honest message look like,

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and even if you were, you're going to calculate and you're going to see, oh, if I'm honest

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with people and I communicate how I really feel, then I'm not going to fit in, I'm not going to

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be accepted, I'm not going to be loved, I'm not going to be approved of, and I will risk

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my safety in the process. You can, if you're already familiar with my work, you can hear

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all of the programming that's in there that ties people's tongues and stops them from just being

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their self, which can also be defined in a number of ways. Sometimes when people are

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thinking that they're going to be honest with people, they're really thinking that they want to

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tell that other person what's wrong with them, as if that's some kind of honesty. And to me,

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this is a very, very, very fake pseudo version of true communication that could take place where

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you're like, oh, I'm just going to be honest with you, and I say that you're really a jerk and you've

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done wrongs and you need to clean that up and you're not going anywhere or you hurt me,

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this kind of thing, super highly nuanced. But as long as you're conveying to the other

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person that you lack or you're bad, you have qualities that you need to change and get rid of,

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then that conveyance is, in fact, not honest. I'm not saying there aren't times to give

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people reflections, but you can see just in terms of the success of it, does it work?

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Does it actually work when you might even have to get your courage up and you go and tell

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somebody what's wrong with them? And do chime in and chat. If you're around, I'd love to have this

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be a conversation that's the fun part of the Beth of Fresh Air is that it's highly interactive,

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so I'd love to hear from you guys what your thoughts are as we go along. But yeah, that

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communication in families can be extremely difficult. It can lead to a lot of conflict.

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It can lead to a lot of inner conflict where you're not being true to yourself and what happens when

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you're not being true to yourself is that you have to start suppressing your true authentic

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nature. If you haven't been able to sort out or make sense of your own inner life and you do a

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lot of conveyance of telling people what their problem is, what's wrong with them,

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and that doesn't go well, then that can send you into that place of just trying to suppress

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all of those kind of things. So it gets really complex, it gets pretty mangled,

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and it leaves people in a very compromised place when it comes to creating true

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connection and growing relationships over time, which is the ultimate punchline that we're in.

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If that's not already complicated enough with our in-person family kind of relationships,

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then you go into the next circle where it's more your chosen relationships with friends

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or places that you work, which sometimes you choose. This was one of the things that when

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I did work with my family's firm and I was their vice president for the better part of a decade,

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I really didn't choose those people to work with them. I chose to work with my father,

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who was the president of that communication firm, and my mother, whose business was a little

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bit on the side, but in the same location. But there were all of the people that I was in

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fact managing. Effectively, they never called me a manager, but as a vice president, I was definitely

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a go-between between employees and my dad. And the communication was very strained,

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very difficult. Anyone who has ever been in a management role will know that it's very difficult.

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I was talking about accountants yesterday and how they're in a kind of manager role,

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because their real boss is the government and their sort of boss is the client. And who did they

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actually answer to in the process? They're caught in the middle and have to be the conveyor of

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all kinds of information, sometimes like good and that they don't like it. So that's a very

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difficult position. I was in that position as the vice president. And yeah, it was difficult

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to find my way, first of all, because they weren't my chosen people. They weren't people that I

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would have wanted to invest my time and energy in. And that building up through communication

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over time, the relationship and the connection that can bloom. So that's very difficult. And I

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think a lot of people are caught in that kind of a life right now, where they are forced on

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a daily basis or through their choice. Obviously, I don't do that anymore. I chose differently,

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but that they're in that situation. So that's what is and then all day long, they have to

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be in a conveyance with people that it's not really worth it for them to

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go the distance and work out all the bugs. And so there's a kind of quiet suffering that

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can take place in that context. So that's all more of an in-person kind of conveyance, which is

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highly complex and can be very difficult, you might have noticed. Now you throw in the digital age

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and this is not new. It was new back in those days. When I was the vice president

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in my last couple of years, we were just starting to have much more internet access. People were

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just starting to make websites for the first time ever. I think we made our first website.

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I think it costs some like $25,000 to make this really simple, ugly thing of a website

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that was really just a brochure. So it was in the infancy of that face and looking at how

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far things have come now where people can effectively make their own beautiful website,

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which is what I do now if you go to Beth Martens. I mean, I didn't make it. I'm using

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templates from the company that I work with called Simplero and they made it super easy

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for me to convey, which is great. And so you throw in the digital age. There's all

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kinds of nuances. So how do people mostly communicate these days? Do they pick up the phone?

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Put your hand up. If you still pick up the phone and call someone, I will still do that.

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And sometimes because I'll look at my text and it's a little bit annoying to make a message,

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and especially if it's a complex message of some kind, I might literally just

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hit the button and see if they're available. And if they're not available, that's no problem.

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Melanie says me. But it's rare. Same thing with just showing up at somebody's house and just

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knocking on their door. Hey, are you there? Do you want to come out and play? That's how

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things used to be. You don't do that anymore. That's considered to be kind of rude and it

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might catch you off guard and you didn't expect them. And it's a bad time. But there was a day

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where that's exactly how you did it. You either picked up the phone or you showed up on their

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doorstep and you took your chances. I'm actually pretty happy. My son and his friends will do

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that now. They'll just go to the other person's place and then they will text from outside.

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And then the friend will say, you're at my house, aren't you? Like this. My son gets a

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kick out of that. So going back to some olden days kind of stuff. But the digital communication

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has really confused things in a lot of different ways and it's unique for each of the platforms

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as well, which is interesting because it's become a kind of culture of platforms. So there's

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certain kinds of communication you can make in a text and certain kinds you can make in a

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live stream and certain communication that you can make in an email. And if sometimes when you get

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an email by text as a text, you don't want to look at it. Why number one is it might be long?

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Like I remember a girlfriend broke up with me, maybe three going on three years or more ago.

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And she sent me a text that was as long as my arm. That should have been an email.

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It was really hard to go through and these scrolling and flipping and so many details

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and points. And how are you supposed to respond to that? Email is much more easy.

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By the way, if you send me a complex email, a long email with a lot of different points

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and you're hoping for me to respond, this does happen actually quite often,

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then what I'll do is I'll hit reply and then I'll go and I'll make spaces in between your

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sentences or your paragraphs and I will respond sometimes point for point if it's really important

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or it's, you know, that you've got a lot to say and I don't want to just

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write it off. And if I'm trying to write from memory of having just read your email,

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then I'm going to miss points so I can be pretty thorough in my responding in that way.

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That's fun for me. I love thorough communication. I think it's fantastic.

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And it doesn't, and volume matters, you know, so sometimes people will send me these huge long

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messages. And as soon as I see, just so you guys know, as soon as I see the length of a message,

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then my brain goes into priority mode. And I will, if it's super lengthy,

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then what am I going to have to do? I'm going to have to put it off for a time

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when I can actually indulge myself in a big long read, not to mention the response because there's

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no point in going through the read. If I don't respond, then I'm just going to have to read it

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again at a different time. So if, you know, for me who's considering efficiency around time,

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then just know there are some people that they used to get upset when they would send me big

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long messages and wouldn't hear from me right away about it. And this is why, right? So if

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you're trying to communicate and convey with anybody that you know maybe has a bigger schedule

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or a lot of different, you know, they've got a lot of communication going on and their hands are

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very full and you know that, then if you really want to communicate with them,

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shorter is better, just so you know, right? That might not be obvious to people if you

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haven't been in on the other side where you yourself have a lot of commitments and not that

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everybody doesn't have that, everybody does, but it can be different when you're extremely active

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in the digital world. And hello to Maya. Nice to see you guys. Glad you can make it. Mike

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New is here. Good afternoon. You never get on YouTube, but I'm glad you did today. That's

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awesome. Yeah, we're, I believe we're on vigilante TV, but not rumble today. I, I'm still getting

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my ducks in a row. I'm still suffering from a time zone change. This is very hard on communication,

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very hard on planning, very hard on scheduling. I also, it was going through a detox last week.

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So as that's why I wasn't here for the better fresh air, just letting myself snotted out

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and cough it out and get the poison out of my face, my eyes and my nose. And so, yeah,

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things got pretty confused. And so there can be, you know, shocking, staggering number of details

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when your world is digital, when your work is digital, when all of your conveyance for the most

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part other than your personal life is digital, then volume matters, volume matters. So learning to

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be more concise is a really good thing if, and that's the ultimate purpose of talking about

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this today. If you want to be heard, you want to be understood, you want to actually have people

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relate and exchange with you, which I'm always willing to do, right? I'm a, I'm a born

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connector. If you don't know that about me yet, then I'm somebody who genuinely loves

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the exchange and the conveyance. Like this is, this is close to my heart. It's like,

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I don't know, this is part of the gift of life. Some people would be just royally annoyed

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by that. I've got one girlfriend in mind in particular, and even saying the word royal,

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it's, I think the ruler in her, the king in her is annoyed by a whole lot of communication that

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maybe doesn't have direct purpose or, you know, a direct kind of action or call to action of some

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kind. She doesn't want a lot of what she would probably term to be meaningless exchange. I also

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but because I'm a born connector and I love connecting, being connected to people, I love

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connecting people who should know each other. It is super easy and joyful for me. I do like

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hearing from people. I, I kind of, no pressure, but I do depend on when I do a stream like this

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solo without a guest, which better fresh air generally will be, although I might have

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some guests, then I'm kind of relying on you guys to chime in and to have an exchange with me.

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And that's where, to me, that's why I would do this live. I'm not just sitting in front of a

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camera recording something and putting it out there and seeing if there's comments or there's

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no comments or something like that. I, I personally get high on, on the live exchange and that's

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what makes it fun and interesting. And it is unpredictable for that reason, which I really

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love because I'm a person who doesn't want everything to be all wrote and, and regimented and

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prescripted and everything like that. I'm a, I'm a fan of improvisation, right? I always have

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an idea of what I'm going to say on these live streams. I do have some notes to return to,

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but for the most part, it's just coming through. And that's fun. One of the things we're doing in my,

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planning to do and preparing to do right now in my events coaching training group

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that has already graduated journey code and went on is we're practicing some role playing.

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So right now I've been playing the, the difficult client and that's not to put any

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people who are difficult down. It's just that when you help people to discover their own patterns,

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the way that their life is showing up and they don't like it and they're, you know, they're

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interested, they want to have a breakthrough. They want to, they want to gain some freedom,

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but they might be stuck in resistance. They might be just brand new to the work and not have

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a clue about how the unconscious operates in their system. They might be really stuck in a,

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in a victim situation where they feel like life is just happening to them. They might feel like

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it's everybody else's problem and so they don't really have any work to do. It's everybody

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else that needs to do some work and they're just there to let off some steam. Not as,

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not nearly as common. I don't end up with clients like that at all. But so I've been playing

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the role of that, of that difficult client and it's been like pretty fun. It's extremely evocative,

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extremely evocative, almost shocking myself what's coming up because I don't, I don't

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pre-plan who I'm going to be. I don't invent a scenario in advance. I might start doing that

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just to give myself a little bit of a head start or, you know, something to work with,

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some content to riff on. But it's fascinating to watch what comes up and out and, and, you know,

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very real emotions, even though I'm, it's a fictitious situation that I'm not in,

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but because we are emotional creatures and we have this installation of the map of emotions

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inside as a spiral. That's why I'm doing this with my hand inside of us. Then they're all

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accessible. And this is what any good actor or actress knows that, that there's a whole

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range of human experience that can be accessed. Now they're doing it for art's sake or for,

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you know, for selling art or for being convincing or being, you know, popular and

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compelling so that when somebody watches you, then they want to keep on watching you, that

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they're going to lean in and they want to know how the story goes or know how the

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gory story goes when they watch somebody. So it's, it's been super fun to, to see how easily I can

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bring up a whole variety of emotions and I can cry and I'm like, and I'm literally shaking inside

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and I'm having this very real thing and I'm, and I'm mad, you know, like I got, I got this kind

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of vitriol going on and it's not, I'm not playing, I'm not really playing that. I'm,

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I'm evoking that. I'm bringing that up from, from that deep inside, but for the purposes of,

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of not just acting or doing art, but for the purposes of healing. So that's been super fun

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and where was I going with that? So let's see if I go back to where I was, where I was,

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I don't know, can you guys remind me where I was going with that?

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All about conveyance and difficult people. Oh, I'll shoot. I'm going to have to start a new,

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on a new point here. If we go back a little bit to say honest communication and, and this is some,

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this is a place I pointed like to make and a place that people get stuck is when they

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think about communicating to someone, they feel like they're, you know, this is maybe how we've

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been indoctrinated by the New Age world or the therapy world is that we have to express our

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feelings and women in relationships often feel like their partner needs to express his feelings.

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There is a half truth in there. The half of the truth is that if the other person is

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suppressing all of their feelings, then it is creating a lot of tension for them.

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It's creating a lot of loss and drain of energy for them and their communication

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to you is going to be stunted, right? If they're busy suppressing their emotions.

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Now people think that, yeah, therapy is all about communicating emotions constantly, right?

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And what, you know, what do you get out of that? How many people have been to therapy for

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their, could be their whole adult life? I know, I know people that went through therapy their

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entire adult life had their, their, you know, psychiatrist or their counselor on the other

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side actually quit on them or retired before they graduated, right? There's no such thing

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as graduating therapy. As far as I know, anyway, there's no, there's no like, oh, you won or you,

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you're finished. You are, you're, this process is complete now. There's no, there's no

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completion to it. And, and so my, my expression for this kind of, of, you know, healing is

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that you're really just by expressing your emotions and learning to do that. And I'll go

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back to why there is a certain half truth in there that you're just pushing furniture around on the

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Titanic, right? So you're moving things around. The emotions are moving in their expression,

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but they're just moving around. It's the same thing with, I heard this about castor oil and

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people probably won't like this, but that castor oil, people think that's very detoxifying,

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but the reality is that the castor oil is mobilizing. So it's actually not a bad

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metaphor for the emotions. It's mobilizing poisons, but it might just move those poisons over to

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another place out of the place that you're maybe having pain. And that's why people will, will

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respond to what they think to be positively to the, the castor oil, but it's, it's going to

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like move somewhere and maybe you don't want it somewhere else. Maybe you don't want it in

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your brain. Maybe you don't want it in your lungs. Maybe you don't want it in your stomach

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kind of thing. So, and see what Mike said here, mainstream substance abuse, counseling relies

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heavily on focusing on your emotions. He found a spiritual path was far more meaningful. Good

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for you. That's amazing. Yeah, I can't imagine trying to deal with addiction in, in the mainstream

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therapy world, managing symptoms just like allopathy, exactly. And so yeah, the, the emotions

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are seen as symptoms, as problems, again, a half truth. There, there's, there is something

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wrong in them. So if you go with the pendulum swing, which a lot of spiritual systems can do

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and say that, you know, the, the emotions are, are fantastic. They, you need them. You

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are justified to have them and, and they glorify and elevate them and bring them

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into this status that it's, you know, the, the conveyance of an emotion is so sacred and so

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everything. But if look and see how that plays out in real life, right, if you're angry at somebody

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and then you go and you dump your anger on them, you convey to them how angry you are,

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how does it go? Do they go, Oh, yes, I understand. Oh, yep, yep. I'm gonna,

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I'm gonna change that thing that makes you angry. I'm, I'm gonna, you know,

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make a shift and I'm going to do what you want me to do. Like, does it ever go like that? It

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doesn't go like that. Just doesn't. There might be the odd person who is so mastered in their own

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emotional life that they could, you know, it's possible that I could be successful at times

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with, with that. And I've put myself in a role where there's a lot of, there can be a

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lot of projections on me. Not so much. I feel like I'm surrounded by a lot of like really good

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self-responsible people, but inevitably they're, you know, I'm usually around when people's

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shit comes up. That's, I'm usually around for that. That's the role of a coach, right?

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That you're, you're there and, and they're expressing problems. And if they don't have

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that ability to just be self-responsible and know that it's, it's their own experience,

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they will project it onto you. And that's what we call, you know, the therapy world would call

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transference or something like that. So I have at times had to deal in my professional life

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with people being angry at me. And, and then so I've got a lot of practice at how to manage

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that and how to stay in a role. This actually goes back to my, my business days, where I'm able to

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maintain communication rather than just, you know, if somebody projects on me, then I project on them

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and I'm angry at them and then we fight and we are at war and then we break up and all of that

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kind of thing. So, you know, nothing good comes of that. But yeah, so the, the expression

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of the emotions is not a cure of anything. It is just addressing the symptoms. And why do we

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consider the emotions to be symptoms is because they're full of pain and they're full of suffering

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and they cause a loss of energy, especially when they are stuck, when they are held and, and,

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and suppressing them, investing energy into pushing them down away from your awareness,

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which is what suppression really means, then they become a nemesis and they are as if calling for

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your attention like, hey, something wrong here. It's like when you have an infection under the

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skin and it's going to call you that like, hey, all is not right over here. We're going to have to,

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you're going to have to something or other. There's needing a remedy, needing a remedy

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and it's going to call your attention. And if you, if you don't give it your attention,

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then that is going to fester and it's going to become bigger. It's going to become worse.

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And you're going to get bigger signs and bigger conveyances from your own inner wound. In this

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case, the metaphor that we're talking about, right? So if you suppress your emotions and,

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and this applies to your thoughts and any other thing that we're in the habit of conveying,

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then it doesn't go well. It's not, it's not right. I'll just read this message here.

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Mike said, I had a handbook in court appointed counseling called seeking safety. You can't

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see how anyone solved their addiction with its clinical how to approach right, right? Yeah,

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I don't know how they get away with that. It shows where the healing does begin.

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Shows where does the healing begin? Okay, well, that's good. So the second point of it is that

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if you, if you just unleash the emotions and it also doesn't go well because you're effectively

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infecting others with your emotion and that comes down to misery loves company,

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people looking for oneness at the level of misery and how miserable is that, right? Nobody,

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nobody consciously wants that. That's, that's unconsciously driven when they're upset and

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they come home and they make everybody else upset and they don't get anything out of it.

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But it, it promised this state of oneness where we can all be in a tizzy together

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and, and it doesn't bring you anything good or worthwhile.

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And so now what, then, then what is to be conveyed? So you feel bad and you have the

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sense that somebody else wronged you and that can be true. Maybe you were a bona fide victim

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of, of people and, and I'll always ask that question. Say if somebody projects anger on to

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me, I will always take inventory first. And I might do it extensively. There was

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somebody that I worked with last year that I appreciate and love so much and it was amazing.

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There, there was a, there was a point of conflict and sometimes as a, as a coach, I, I end up

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in the role of like kind of mama that's not mama or mommy, but, but the, like the mother and,

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and then it's easy. If they're having difficulties, it's easy to play out some conflict with me.

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So I was nudging them. I was encouraging them. I was, you know, giving them just little and,

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and just to see, I didn't, I didn't know what would come of it when I gave them little nudges to,

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to move forward when they thought they couldn't. I didn't know what was going to happen.

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And then there was a hard stop. They decided, okay, it's a no. And I'm like, okay, no is no.

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Right. I'm, I'm done with it, but I'm not, I'm not totally done with it. I'm done with it

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with you. And then there's often something that comes up in me that allows me to, to see.

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And, and, and then I did end up conveying, but not in, not in a personal way, in a more

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generalized way so that there were some lessons that came up in the process that I thought

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everyone could benefit from. So without like naming anybody or the situation or giving

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any details so that anyone would know except that person did know because they, they recognized it

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obviously because they're, they're in the exchange with me. And after they got really, really mad at

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me. And you know, so that was like, oh, okay, all right. What did I do at that time? I could

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have just easily gone and responded and, and gotten point for point and kind of powered over

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her and using my intellectual prowess to blow holes in all of the accusations that weren't,

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you know, super founded, but there, but there was something. So instead of just responding

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from that more masculine place, I went and I did my own work and I took inventory and I saw

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like where did I go wrong to create this conflict? And this is a very powerful thing pre communication

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before you say anything before you respond, even if it's a text as long as your arm,

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it's good to take a step back and sort it out. Now, sorting, I don't mean

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discover what's her problem and what's my problem. This is the next level you might

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have heard me talk about this assuming radical responsibility and saying, you know what? I

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did it. I did this whole thing. I created the course. She joined the course. Therefore, I'm the

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cause of the problem, not to blame, but I did it anyway. So starting with that premise of power

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and I went through all of the points that I would have shot back to her to refute her

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points and I released the programming that was under all of my points. And when I got to the end,

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I was left with only one thing. And can you guys guess what it was?

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See if you can say in the chat, what was the, it's not really a feeling. It's not really a

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thing. So in a way, it's a pretty hard question to answer, but I was left with one thing

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and it was called love, right? Not, not fear, not anger, not my desire to shift and change her

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perspective or make her not mad at me or all of that kind of thing. I just was left with love

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for her and love in general. And then I came back to the communication and then I left her a message

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because then I was confident I could express love to her. And this is the whole,

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the whole punchline of today's stream is that we are often expressing anything and everything,

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but the love that sits underneath all of the, you know, thoughts, emotions, programs in particular,

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those, those are the gatekeepers. And so that's what we express. And that's what

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therapy gets people to barf out, right? Just barf out your thoughts, barf out your emotions.

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Hearing today that in therapy, they encourage people to swear. So then you can barf out all your,

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all your, your cussing and your negativity and your, you know, hopelessness or your grumpiness

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and all of that kind of thing. And boy, I can't imagine a worse life than being a therapist,

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like having, having people's garbage shooting at you all day, like that to me would just

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be like a hellish kind of a place. Unless there is a whole purpose to that. And, and it's next level

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where the expression of the communication is used for the sake of healing and going deeper and

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taking responsibility. So I'll just finish the story is that the net result of this exchange

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that I was having was a greater and deeper relationship that we were able to continue working

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together and keep going. And was the, the relationship the same as it was before? No,

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it was, it was better. It would, there was more love. There was a greater point of connection

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for the conveyance that I was able to, to make from a place of love and really assume

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responsibility. And what did I, what did I do? I apologized. Like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that

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what I did hurt you. And, and that was just, you know, bottom line, not trying to get out

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of it, not trying to anything. I did see where I went wrong. And I learned and it taught me

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not just for this situation, but for all kinds of situations to come in the future. So yes,

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true love always leads to true conveyance. That's beautiful. That's a great quote. Like,

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you should write that everywhere. So yeah, that's, that's the main thing that gets lost when we are

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told, Oh, you have to express your feelings. Well, you're expressing feelings are all now you

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might not believe me when I say this, but this is my experience, not just with myself,

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but with hundreds of people that I've worked with, that all of the feelings are rooted

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in something called not love. And if it's not love, what is it? If there's only two things,

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if it's not love, what, what do you got?

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And, and this is at the basis of all of the emotions, even the ones that we like, right?

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So I would not consider love to be an emotion. If, if love is an emotion, then it's not love.

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And it has an opposite, right? One of the programs is the love hate

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program where it flips where you, and who hasn't seen this in a relationship where at the beginning,

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you love them. There's, oh my goodness, they're just the best and they're so great and it's

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awesome. And then you, maybe you start to learn a little bit more about them and you find things

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that bump up against your nature or you disagree on things. And then maybe, maybe you,

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there's some hate in the mix and maybe it gets very extreme where you go from extreme adoration

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to extreme aversion and like, oh, get away from me. So this program can attach itself and be

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very confusing because people do think that they're having a love experience when they're

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actually having a programmed experience that's rooted in fear, right? So if you don't have love,

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you got fear. That's, that's the word that I was looking for there. And so if it's coming from fear,

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then it's going to the conveyance and the communication is going to be saturated with fear

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and it's going to pre, it's going to produce a result that has the nature of fear at some

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level. Even if it's kind of hidden or it's not, it's not super obvious, it's a vibe, right? It's a,

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it's an energy. It's a driver. It pushes from the unconscious because the, the programmed fear

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is something that people are not aware of until that moment when they decide they want freedom

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so much that they're willing to go and feel that deeper pain of, that programs actually

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not just represent but are in, in reality as they vibe. Now, I know this is a lot of information

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I'm kind of geeking out on you guys. I'm not expecting anyone to believe this, but, but if you

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want to consider it and start taking it in and, and studying it for yourself, that even

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the highest emotions of, you know, there's, there's three top emotions as, as big containers that

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contain a lot of different nuances and variations on those feelings, but it's some kind of courage,

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acceptance and peace. Now we think peace is a destination or peace is a goal or courage is a

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goal and, or acceptance is a goal. Now these are what we would consider to be much more positive

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emotions and much more positive conveyances, right? So if you're expressing your joy to someone or

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you're expressing your gratitude, which might be a courageous thing or it might be acceptance or

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peace or you're expressing your appreciation, that can also be very programmed by the way

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when people express appreciation. It can be, of course, the other way when people are depreciating

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you. Then that's a much more obvious version of fear, but when you're being appreciated,

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that can also be a version of fear that's communicated. And it's why sometimes if you've

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ever noticed this, that some people will shower you with compliments and they'll,

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I'll call it, you know, blow smoke up your butt and they think you're so great and they're elevating

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you. I always get a little like, uh-oh around that because I know it's probably going to flip

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at some point, right? They come at you with that kind of fake pseudo love at the beginning and

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then the tables inevitably are going to turn. It's how programming works. It's two sides of

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the exact same coin. But if you're brave enough and you study the higher emotions,

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the higher frequency emotions, you will see they are equally as programmed as the low emotions.

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So whether you're expressing your negative emotions or you're expressing your positive

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emotions, your conveyance may still very well be muddied with fear programming and almost

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guaranteed it is. How do we, how do we even get by in life at all given all of the

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mechanisms that are at play at one time is kind of a mystery. There's obviously forces beyond us

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that are gluing us together in some ways. Now they have found lots of ways to separate us

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and divide us and stop us from having clear conveyance. This is something in the House of

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Free Will that I have a lot of pride around. I think it's a healthy pride where people can discuss

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and disagree and have different perspectives altogether, but they don't get mad at each other.

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They don't get frustrated. They don't yell at each other. They don't call each other names

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or, you know, oh, you must be stupid for having that thought or anything like that.

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I have the great honor and pleasure of having attracted some grown-up people who in their

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communication can keep an even keel. When they hear something they don't agree with,

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they don't fly off the handle and freak out. As I was mentioning at the beginning of the

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stream, I'm having Sarah from Raging Tomatoes on to talk about her debate scene. And if you

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go on to her channel, sometimes it's pretty wild. The ad hominems are just flying and they're

01:00:24.080 --> 01:00:29.920
interrupting each other and they're raising their voice and they're angry, although that's not

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necessarily going to be a problem. Ben Ballersen is one of these that he can raise his voice

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and really speak it out, but I don't have any massive aversion to it, maybe because I know

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him, maybe because there's deep love, but I don't mind his vibe. Now, maybe if he was yelling

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all the time, I wouldn't like it, but he's actually an extremely loving guy. But this kind of style

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of communication and everything like that, I'll watch and I'll take it in and it messes you up

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just to even listen to it, never mind be part of it. And so when people can communicate and

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express these different opinions and different perspectives and different realities without

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it being a problem, then it's like so beautiful. It's the most beautiful thing ever. What is the

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net result of that that comes of it is, to me, learning expansion. So another example,

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including Ben Ballersen, when I had Danny Katz and Ben on to talk about the masculine and

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feminine, it was unmangling, the masculine and feminine, my memory serves. And then Danny and

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Ben had what looked like to be opposing viewpoints on a subject I can't even remember exactly.

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I think there was more than one of them. And it was just no problem. It was no issue. So they

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had different perspectives. So what? And if the net effect on me was expansion to include

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both of their perspectives in my awareness, not necessarily to take on a belief, not necessarily

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to change my mind, these days, it's almost so irrelevant. What I believe, I don't really even

01:02:22.600 --> 01:02:29.920
care what I believe anymore. What good is that? What does it get me other than bumping up against

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other people's beliefs? Now, I do have some extremely definite experiences and things in

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life that have taught me. I was just listening to Alphavetic a little bit this morning and hearing

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a therapist and so she was she a therapist or Qigong person, something doing therapy

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a little bit. I don't know if I'm using the wrong word. So forgive me if it's not.

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And she was saying it part of part of the process

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for her was that she would pick a word and it would usually be enough. I found this fascinating

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actually enough. It's a very charged word full of meaning. Now, when she got a deeper into it,

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I saw more the wisdom of where she was coming from. But this is just to illustrate the point

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that say people walk around and they feel like I'm not enough or maybe they're higher

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up the emotional scale and they feel like you're not enough. And then the remedy which is highly

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propagandized through our media mainstream and alternative is that you are enough and you

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deserve that chocolate bar or something because you're enough or you should take that vacation

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because you're enough and maybe you're good enough or maybe you're just enough or you're not enough.

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And what people don't see about that is that she has them either chant that word or just keep

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saying that word. And as if hypnotizing themselves that I am enough, I am enough

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is where some people will go with it. Not everybody will go there with it. She actually

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revealed she was quite open-ended in what they do with that. So that could be kind of an interesting

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experiment. But we have this idea that we want to go from being not enough to being enough

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and then we're done. And that's the same trap as feeling like, oh yeah, I just want to convey

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all the positive emotions because it is equally as programmed. You're as stuck when you're

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enough as when you are enough. In fact, you can be more stuck when you feel to be enough,

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just as one example by the way, than you would be as not enough. Why? Because you're not going

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to release when you feel like you're enough. You might be more motivated to release when you

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feel like you're not enough. So then the higher energy, not only does it not win but it

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can in fact keep you more stuck but at a higher place. So that's just one example.

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And then we do very much convey through these programs. We don't know we're conveying

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through the programs, but we do. And it is inevitable if we're running them, we're going

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to be conveying them. So they're going to be in the mix of the communication. People are going

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to hear it. They might not be able to consciously know that you're pointing a program at them saying

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you're not enough. Get your act together. But they will feel it. Was it Maya Angelou said,

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people will not remember what you said to them, but they will remember how you made them feel.

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And so this is truth. Now there's a little nuance in there that people don't actually

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make you feel a certain way. That's your doing, how you interact with their conveyance,

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that they say something. There's also the wisdom that when it rains, get wet. So that if you are,

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somebody is attacking you and projecting and kind of barfing their shit on you,

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then if you're trying to remain untouched by that, that doesn't affect you. I think

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that's a lie because we are in a field together. There's no getting out of it. Oneness is a reality.

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And then so you're going to get that. Whatever they're projecting, you're going to get that.

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And it will evoke something in you and will probably give you some work to do. And it's

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why people, I don't want to surround myself with people that are conveying their crap

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all the time unless it's in that exclusive context that they have decided they want to do some healing

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work. They're ready and they're willing to take the risk of feeling things they haven't felt before

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and seeing things they haven't seen before and they want to make steps. Then it's a totally

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different thing and it's a very beautiful thing. And it's not, in that context, it's not about

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conveyance to me or me receiving from them. It's actually their own conveyance to themself

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is what's happening because we speak to ourself in programs for the most part. That's the default.

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Maybe we won't always default like that. Maybe there will actually be some evolution in our

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lifetime. Maybe there won't be. We don't know. This is my prayer, the secret agenda,

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that there will be. But when you're conveying from programming, then you're going to

01:07:53.460 --> 01:07:59.540
ultimately end up having to clean up that mess. Sometimes when two people get together in a

01:07:59.540 --> 01:08:05.860
relationship in a romance, it's literally just their programs interacting and they might not have

01:08:05.860 --> 01:08:11.540
identical programs. They might be complementary programs, but we think of it as two people

01:08:11.540 --> 01:08:18.220
in an exchange, but it ends up being to the degree that they are running and suppressing

01:08:18.220 --> 01:08:23.980
programs, which is most everyone but two different degrees, then often you end up with this just

01:08:23.980 --> 01:08:29.520
like the budding of the programs coming up against each other. And how can you prove that is if

01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:40.080
you go to work on your side of it and you take out your programming, what remains? It's

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the transformation is going to come of the polarity that gets created when you drop your

01:08:46.380 --> 01:08:54.160
programming, create space, space, that space, then if you need a name for it is love or freedom.

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And then that love or that freedom, which is to me the same, is going to polarize and draw

01:09:01.700 --> 01:09:07.580
someone towards you or push someone away from you. This is how you clean up your community,

01:09:07.580 --> 01:09:13.540
by the way, you do your own inner work and let the energy decide on the relationships.

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So you don't have to go and tell everybody what their problem is and have a lot of conflict

01:09:21.320 --> 01:09:30.120
and relationships in that way. So I was going to tell a story about this one I've told a few times,

01:09:30.240 --> 01:09:34.280
so if you've heard it before then bear with me, but it was a Christmas.

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And so this Christmas as a family we had decided we were not going to get presents for people

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because we had quite a big family and it was a little odorous so then there was this decision

01:09:52.500 --> 01:09:58.140
made that okay we're not going to do that this year. But at the last minute they changed their

01:09:58.140 --> 01:10:03.240
mind, I wasn't in on the vote and they decided oh we are going to do presents after all.

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So that has always, I don't know about you guys, but Christmas can be a big stress in a lot of

01:10:09.480 --> 01:10:14.160
different ways, right, like financially and never mind even if you just have all the money in the

01:10:14.160 --> 01:10:22.380
world, but getting good presents for people in an obligatory way, in an obligatory kind of

01:10:22.380 --> 01:10:28.480
timeframe that's got a deadline, right, Christmas Day is a deadline and I always found it stressful.

01:10:28.480 --> 01:10:33.480
So there was a relief when they decided not to do it for me and then there was some stress

01:10:33.480 --> 01:10:40.000
when they decided they were doing it again because I didn't want to lose the approval

01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:45.720
of my family when you know say I didn't get it together and get everybody a gift.

01:10:47.380 --> 01:10:52.520
Such a massive sigh up the whole Christmas thing, I'm sure I'll get deeper into that

01:10:52.520 --> 01:10:58.700
as we get closer to it or some weeks away. And so then I decided I was going to

01:10:59.740 --> 01:11:06.760
write letters to my family members, like do it like really personal, each individual writing

01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:12.280
all of these letters and this was going to be my gift of time and conveyance and communication.

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So I sat down to write these letters and they ended up being the content of them was

01:11:20.700 --> 01:11:25.760
basically telling everybody what was wrong with them. That's where I was at back then that I

01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:31.000
didn't have a super lot of mastery. I was actually between diagnoses at the time

01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:40.700
because I think I was actually in treatments for cancer at that time. If I don't, if I'm

01:11:40.700 --> 01:11:48.420
correct in my memory and the timeline. And so yeah, I wrote all these letters out and it

01:11:48.420 --> 01:11:54.440
was all the things that I had wanted to tell them, what was wrong with them, where they went wrong,

01:11:54.560 --> 01:12:00.880
what they needed to do, what their problem was, what their shortcomings were, where they had maybe

01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:12.040
harmed me or all of this honest communication which really is not. And so I luckily read

01:12:12.040 --> 01:12:19.420
and reread those letters before sending them and putting them in envelopes for them.

01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:27.540
And I read them and then I started to edit and I decided you know what, I only want to express love

01:12:27.540 --> 01:12:35.620
to my family. So I went through with that as a standard of nearly every sentence

01:12:36.440 --> 01:12:41.220
and I took out everything that was not love. In the end they turned into kind of short letters

01:12:42.200 --> 01:12:49.520
because there wasn't a whole bunch of content. And come Christmas morning we were handing our

01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:54.900
gifts out and so I was giving people these letters and you could see there was this like trepidation

01:12:54.900 --> 01:12:59.660
because I'm kind of already infamous for telling people things they don't want to hear

01:13:00.740 --> 01:13:07.240
through my life. And then you could see they were like oh thank you, you know like oh oh oh

01:13:07.240 --> 01:13:10.300
I'm not going to look at that. And then one by one over the course of the day

01:13:10.300 --> 01:13:17.160
people opened the envelope and they read their letter and you could see that it was like utterly

01:13:17.160 --> 01:13:25.520
transforming for me and everyone that they just received a love letter for Christmas.

01:13:26.120 --> 01:13:31.460
It was a beautiful, beautiful thing. So I do recommend this as an exercise actually if you're,

01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:36.480
especially if you have grievances with family members, you know start by writing

01:13:36.480 --> 01:13:41.120
without any sensor or without any filter, anything that you want to tell them,

01:13:41.320 --> 01:13:46.720
anything you want to project on them, blame them for in all the feelings that you want to express

01:13:47.340 --> 01:13:52.340
and all of that kind of stuff. And then use that standard of love and go back to edit

01:13:52.340 --> 01:13:56.860
and see how you could say things in a way that really truly expressed your love.

01:13:57.080 --> 01:14:03.840
Not in a manipulative way so that they have a certain, you know it's not honestly love

01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:10.000
if you're doing that to manipulate and change how they feel or get their favor or all of that kind

01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:14.960
of stuff. That's not love either. So that's why the letters ended up kind of short.

01:14:17.620 --> 01:14:23.980
And so let's see where we're at here. Are you guys getting anything out of this?

01:14:23.980 --> 01:14:28.200
Is it helpful at all to reflect on?

01:14:33.260 --> 01:14:38.360
Yeah like just really thinking about what is necessary, what is necessary, what is needed

01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:47.220
and what's the definition of necessary conveyance is what's going to serve everyone involved.

01:14:48.020 --> 01:14:53.700
What will serve you, what will serve them if it's a two-party kind of a communication

01:14:54.580 --> 01:15:00.740
process or maybe you know it's one to many in the context where somebody has,

01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:04.740
you know we call it an audience, I don't really call it an audience.

01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:13.980
I do see it more of an exchange but in this case it's say people often end up

01:15:13.980 --> 01:15:20.840
coming into my world and maybe they bridge that they're not just watching from a distance on a

01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:25.580
live stream but they come on the chat and then maybe they go the next step and they send me an

01:15:25.580 --> 01:15:31.100
email, maybe they come in the house of free will, maybe we get to know each other at a different

01:15:31.100 --> 01:15:37.360
level and so sometimes when they, when we have our first meeting they have the sense that they

01:15:37.360 --> 01:15:44.620
already know me. Why? Because I go on the airwaves and I talk about myself and I say

01:15:44.620 --> 01:15:51.360
some personal stories about my life and you spend some time in my living room where I am

01:15:51.360 --> 01:15:58.820
right now and maybe you know I'm in your living room or your garage or something and it seems

01:15:58.820 --> 01:16:06.980
like we are connected. That's one of the beautiful things about the tool that of being able to

01:16:06.980 --> 01:16:15.820
broadcast one to many is a beautiful thing but it ends up being like when they come at first it was

01:16:15.820 --> 01:16:20.380
really a weird experience for me because I'd meet them and they're like oh yeah I know you and they

01:16:20.380 --> 01:16:26.080
give me a big hug like we've been connected and related and I don't know them from Adam,

01:16:26.260 --> 01:16:30.940
like I have no idea who they are, I don't know anything about them, I don't know if we should

01:16:30.940 --> 01:16:37.660
be good friends and I always take it as a good sign that if they like me then we probably have

01:16:37.660 --> 01:16:44.380
something to work with and you know and it took me some time to just to just let that reaction of mine

01:16:45.300 --> 01:16:51.280
go and not have to be awkward and not have to you know if they want to jump in at the deep end

01:16:51.280 --> 01:16:56.560
and act like we already know each other that's okay I can go there I'm deep and I like deep

01:16:56.560 --> 01:17:04.420
exchanges much more than at like any superficial exchanges by far but the you know when it comes to

01:17:04.420 --> 01:17:11.820
just really what is necessary to communicate what is going to serve because I can sit and talk to

01:17:11.820 --> 01:17:19.880
myself all day long about these things but does it actually help anybody? Does it further anyone's

01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:28.500
cause? Does it create greater connection and to me this is the ultimate standard is the connection

01:17:28.500 --> 01:17:36.200
that's what communication is for to bring us together not to separate us you know in one of

01:17:36.200 --> 01:17:43.260
the headlines of the posts that I wrote it's like communication has got so much easier and so much

01:17:43.260 --> 01:17:53.400
harder right with things like texts and sometimes people will text me and you can't tell what the

01:17:53.400 --> 01:17:59.540
tone of where they're coming from you can't tell what exactly it's hard to interpret sometimes

01:17:59.540 --> 01:18:03.740
especially if you read a text really fast it might seem like they're saying one thing but

01:18:03.740 --> 01:18:11.060
they're really not saying that I'll always go in and reread and just like did I get it even

01:18:11.060 --> 01:18:17.080
just from these words so you have such limited data to go on when it comes to a lot of digital

01:18:17.080 --> 01:18:25.940
communication that it it maybe isn't enough to have a true exchange in communication and to

01:18:25.940 --> 01:18:32.080
know what serves right like I can't I can't know that's that's why I actually like to talk to

01:18:32.080 --> 01:18:39.280
people in my world like I was saying I prefer to have a people in the chat and and and when

01:18:39.280 --> 01:18:44.240
I got stuck in my work I just immediately started booking conversations with people who

01:18:44.240 --> 01:18:51.280
are in my community and that was such a beautiful thing to learn who they are and now to have

01:18:52.380 --> 01:18:57.560
some like I now I actually have a living breathing person in my head not that they

01:18:57.560 --> 01:19:03.760
weren't always that but now that now it's real for me too it was already real for them because

01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:10.560
I come out and speak quite a bit but now I get to be part of that relationship and it's through

01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:19.380
that connection that the fertility is like that's where that's where things can be birthed that's

01:19:19.380 --> 01:19:26.180
where new things can be created that's where you know your your awareness can be expanded to

01:19:26.180 --> 01:19:34.840
include more than you might have been able to include before you had that connection so that

01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:42.560
is the potential that can happen for people on all sides so yeah what will serve what's actually

01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:51.750
necessary these days there's I communicate way less and you know especially when when I'm

01:19:52.650 --> 01:19:59.310
like irritated by something or I'm triggered by something or activated then I very often

01:19:59.990 --> 01:20:04.790
I'm not going to communicate because why I've just lived long enough to know that

01:20:05.350 --> 01:20:10.430
you're gonna I'm gonna create more problems I'm gonna create problems that you know if you

01:20:10.430 --> 01:20:14.470
already have a problem then you're gonna end it with more problems to layer on top of it

01:20:14.470 --> 01:20:20.410
and it gets harder and harder to back out of the problem and into the actual connection

01:20:20.410 --> 01:20:27.230
that is in potential all the time so the digital world makes it easy to connect

01:20:27.230 --> 01:20:34.090
and it makes it easy to find your people if you're brave enough to show yourself and to show

01:20:34.090 --> 01:20:41.330
who you are and to speak out and you know my king hero chat on on telegram I appreciate there's

01:20:41.330 --> 01:20:46.710
there's a handful of people who will who will come and say stuff and risk putting out their

01:20:46.710 --> 01:20:53.490
opinion or their knowledge and give some everybody else something to bounce off of or riff off of or

01:20:53.490 --> 01:21:01.070
to disagree with or agree with or ask questions around and I get to know those people well so I

01:21:01.070 --> 01:21:07.870
do invite you to the king hero chat if you have not come on to that before on telegram then

01:21:07.870 --> 01:21:15.850
you're most welcome I will see if I can grab a link that's where I spend most of my time in

01:21:15.850 --> 01:21:26.370
conveyance so let's see where is telegram this I'll just share the the chat there's also a channel

01:21:26.370 --> 01:21:30.590
but I believe when you sign up for the chat you're in the channel or something like that no that didn't

01:21:30.590 --> 01:21:39.950
work at all just drop that try this one more time this is weird sometimes I use notes a lot

01:21:40.690 --> 01:21:49.290
does anyone else use their notes a lot and then it uh see what happens here nah okay I have to

01:21:49.290 --> 01:21:56.130
close I have to close notes I'll grab that link later notes is uh got some indigestion let's see

01:21:57.290 --> 01:22:07.430
I rely on it a lot and yeah so I think that I might be getting to the end of my conveyance

01:22:07.430 --> 01:22:12.390
today I just thought this was a good one and if you're having trouble in your life

01:22:13.030 --> 01:22:18.230
and you're not getting your point across and you're not being heard it's worth investigating

01:22:19.410 --> 01:22:23.530
there was a time this this was one of the points I wanted to get across today was

01:22:23.530 --> 01:22:30.790
there was a time where I thought that if I just learned to be a skillful enough communicator

01:22:31.350 --> 01:22:38.490
and I learned to be very precise with my communication and I was precise with the

01:22:38.490 --> 01:22:47.190
meaning of my words and I was very articulate in the process that somehow I would solve all

01:22:47.190 --> 01:22:54.230
of the problems it's not true it's not true at all now it does does that mean it's not worthwhile

01:22:54.770 --> 01:23:01.690
to become a better communicator to study how does the language work not that I'm perfect by

01:23:01.690 --> 01:23:10.310
any stretching imagination at it or um you know but I but I did take it to enough of a level

01:23:10.310 --> 01:23:16.350
and in relationships and especially in romantic relationships where I saw that just me being

01:23:16.350 --> 01:23:22.490
a clear communicator was not the answer to all the problems and why is that because the whole

01:23:22.490 --> 01:23:28.190
nature of the unconscious and the unconscious communication that's taking place so just being

01:23:28.190 --> 01:23:32.890
able to say the right words and do the right words this was one other point I wanted to make just

01:23:32.890 --> 01:23:39.350
about word jail but first I'm noticing that Diane is in the chat and she said uh I just

01:23:39.350 --> 01:23:43.370
came looking for some fresh air and here you are I'm late you have to watch the replay from

01:23:43.370 --> 01:23:49.550
the beginning later nice so Diane I'm really glad you are here and will not wheel I get it

01:23:49.550 --> 01:23:55.870
yep yeah that's part of the part of the digital communication age is that the uh sometimes the

01:23:55.870 --> 01:24:02.770
the digits get all made for you right like that you it's it's hilarious it became such a point

01:24:02.770 --> 01:24:09.190
of comedy if you make a message very quickly and you just spit it out there and then come back

01:24:09.190 --> 01:24:13.270
to it later and realize oh you sound like you're retarded and that you don't know the English

01:24:13.270 --> 01:24:19.310
language at all I think that was definitely part of the design of the way that our devices

01:24:19.550 --> 01:24:27.730
finish our words and and mistake one word for the other was to in fact make us look like idiots

01:24:27.730 --> 01:24:34.050
and oh yeah voice to text I use that a lot and that's that can be problematic I have to be careful

01:24:34.050 --> 01:24:41.990
to go and I'm sure you guys have seen mangled messages uh at the time at times for me it's

01:24:41.990 --> 01:24:47.650
is a good way to go because personally I like to be more conversational if I'm like you know

01:24:47.650 --> 01:24:55.870
tapping letters on a keyboard it's easier for me to type through with my with my hands uh or it was

01:24:55.870 --> 01:25:02.790
before I damaged one of my digits but yeah so I use a lot of voice to text and then you go back

01:25:02.790 --> 01:25:10.130
and you see how did the uh AI mangle what is it all AI I guess I don't know you know how did the

01:25:10.130 --> 01:25:18.150
device mangle my words and my conveyance I was clear I was saying the right things and uh and then it

01:25:19.170 --> 01:25:22.790
mangles it it should be it should be learned voice to text should learn

01:25:23.310 --> 01:25:27.990
who about you which is sort of creepy and and some people wouldn't want that it has the

01:25:27.990 --> 01:25:32.930
advantage that it does know you say certain things over and over again and that's what you mean

01:25:32.930 --> 01:25:41.470
and uh but it doesn't seem to learn around me which is fine voice to text is a little a little crazy

01:25:41.470 --> 01:25:47.490
but it's so handy it's so useful and you can express much more conversationally that's something

01:25:47.490 --> 01:25:54.410
that I learned in my post marketing world post business world corporate world kind of thing

01:25:54.410 --> 01:26:00.410
is communication that we would always do at a kind of highfalutin level that would be written

01:26:00.410 --> 01:26:10.050
for say media it would be written for um you know the the cultural context of a particular company

01:26:10.050 --> 01:26:17.250
we would be using words it the anything but conversational right it was formal it was it was

01:26:17.690 --> 01:26:26.090
meant to come across as as as business not personal and and so that was a lot of my training

01:26:26.090 --> 01:26:32.070
in writing at the time was was to be in this place it can be very intellectual there are no

01:26:32.070 --> 01:26:39.830
feelings in there and um and then so in in my work when I became self-employed after surviving

01:26:39.830 --> 01:26:46.190
cancer I I learned to flip that and become much more conversational in my writing

01:26:47.170 --> 01:26:54.450
and I discovered that being conversational in writing communicates much more it's it's uh

01:26:54.450 --> 01:27:02.250
it creates much greater potential for exchange because in the formal part of language you're just

01:27:02.250 --> 01:27:09.630
talking at people and and they will feel separate from you because of that language but if you use

01:27:09.630 --> 01:27:17.630
words that you would actually speak this is very different and and you can often edit your own

01:27:17.630 --> 01:27:22.990
writing by speaking it out loud and asking yourself would I actually say that would I

01:27:22.990 --> 01:27:28.290
use that adverb if I was just talking with someone in a conversational kind of a way

01:27:28.290 --> 01:27:36.650
there's like no I wouldn't use that flowery adverb or or a string of them in a paragraph

01:27:38.150 --> 01:27:45.070
and and then being conversational being it means that somebody can feel like I'm speaking with

01:27:45.070 --> 01:27:51.510
them not at them and that's part of you know being able to write a good email to my list I mean

01:27:51.510 --> 01:27:59.110
I have a wonderful community in that I'm in contact with my emails and I always try to

01:27:59.110 --> 01:28:06.510
write in a way that's going to be with them not at them because no one wants to have

01:28:06.510 --> 01:28:14.430
stuff spewing at them at all so let's see whether any I just want to see if there's any

01:28:14.430 --> 01:28:18.910
important points I almost always get off these and realize that there was some big points that

01:28:18.910 --> 01:28:19.350
I missed

01:28:26.930 --> 01:28:33.690
yeah and and yeah where there's urgency to get a message across that's that's kind of a red flag

01:28:33.690 --> 01:28:42.550
too sometimes you don't have the time to go and reflect and just take inventory and do your

01:28:42.550 --> 01:28:49.130
inner work and like something needs to happen right away this is where training in all of that

01:28:49.750 --> 01:28:56.890
will show up for you when there's an urgency to get a message across in a timely way and that

01:28:56.890 --> 01:29:04.790
can happen but if yeah if you if you have the luxury of some time to gain clarity first

01:29:04.790 --> 01:29:11.690
you're definitely going to be better off um yeah that I think the main point is just that

01:29:11.690 --> 01:29:17.710
people are tragically lost in their programming and as a result they don't have authentic

01:29:17.710 --> 01:29:25.350
communication and connection because of it so that's my prayer for everyone here that's taking

01:29:25.350 --> 01:29:35.410
this in and for uh human beings in general so yeah I think that's pretty much maybe maybe

01:29:35.410 --> 01:29:43.490
one more point give me one second there we go I'm a little naughty from the last couple weeks of

01:29:43.490 --> 01:29:49.670
detox but um one of the things I wanted to talk about just to emphasize when people are communicating

01:29:49.670 --> 01:29:58.210
online is that it's very easy to in the void of say a response maybe you put things out

01:29:58.210 --> 01:30:04.610
in the into the airwaves you make a post on facebook or on x or instagram or wherever you are

01:30:05.630 --> 01:30:12.390
and no one responds and or maybe you know a very small response and maybe you poured your heart and

01:30:12.390 --> 01:30:20.750
your soul into it and you really communicated in an authentic way from your own heart and then it's

01:30:20.750 --> 01:30:26.590
like crickets and nobody nobody responds and it's very very tempting in that space it's very

01:30:26.590 --> 01:30:36.810
tempting to invent that oh they didn't like it or oh um they're a bunch of assholes or uh you know and

01:30:36.810 --> 01:30:43.230
this I will be honest for those of you listening on on facebook that uh sometimes when I put things

01:30:43.230 --> 01:30:51.630
out especially my interviews and my work on on facebook and I get crickets it is like okay

01:30:51.630 --> 01:30:59.450
well what is that what is that that they're somehow not you know like they can they it just seems like

01:31:00.110 --> 01:31:07.730
if I make something if I make a funny meme or I make something unrelated or make something you know

01:31:07.730 --> 01:31:13.250
I don't know just just for fun because um I also find social media to be fun I want to

01:31:13.250 --> 01:31:19.410
check my post from today what I said and oh I did get some comments I actually asked a question

01:31:19.410 --> 01:31:25.470
and sometimes it is I will draw the conclusion like I don't know like people there just don't

01:31:25.470 --> 01:31:31.390
really like my live streams they don't like my work I don't know so but am I concluding in a

01:31:31.390 --> 01:31:39.970
wrong way yes it's uh highly highly possible that I am not being accurate when I draw conclusions

01:31:39.970 --> 01:31:44.570
like that so where at all possible even though I'm still learning to take my own advice here

01:31:44.570 --> 01:31:51.090
where at all possible suspend any conclusions or say you text somebody and they don't respond

01:31:51.090 --> 01:31:58.510
right away some people's style will be to continue texting like they will oh they didn't respond

01:31:58.510 --> 01:32:02.910
to one message I'm going to send another message and another one and another one and another one

01:32:02.910 --> 01:32:09.390
and another one and you should know that that makes it more unlikely for them to respond

01:32:09.390 --> 01:32:13.370
and this is something I've learned when I reach out to especially somebody I know

01:32:13.370 --> 01:32:19.610
who's busy I will send them one message maybe if I don't hear back in a day and I want to

01:32:19.610 --> 01:32:24.710
clarify something I might send I might include a second one or something you know if it's relevant

01:32:24.710 --> 01:32:30.450
actually important kind of thing maybe they'll get two from me if if they don't respond

01:32:30.450 --> 01:32:34.770
then I will leave it and just leave it with them maybe I'll go back at some point

01:32:34.770 --> 01:32:40.190
um there are times to follow up and just say like hey did you get my message you might follow

01:32:40.190 --> 01:32:44.710
up on another medium maybe you're going to send an email did you get my text or something like that

01:32:44.710 --> 01:32:49.930
to me that's a very honest approach rather than coming to any conclusions about what

01:32:50.450 --> 01:32:57.770
what the meaning of a lack of response is which is so tempting to just and it's it's

01:32:57.770 --> 01:33:00.930
it's going to be one of two the meaning is going to be one of two things it's going

01:33:00.930 --> 01:33:06.970
to be something about yourself or it's going to be something about them and it's not usually

01:33:06.970 --> 01:33:13.670
in favor it's like I'm not good enough to respond right and then they don't love me

01:33:14.260 --> 01:33:20.430
they don't approve of me they don't value me they don't appreciate me they don't recognize me

01:33:21.250 --> 01:33:26.790
and you know I've been working on this a lot because there definitely are some people that

01:33:26.790 --> 01:33:32.570
I I'm like like why don't they just don't get it they don't they don't value it they don't

01:33:32.570 --> 01:33:37.930
they don't want it um all of this kind of thing and then and then it's like well am I going to think

01:33:37.930 --> 01:33:42.870
that they're bad and wrong because of that or am I going to think that I'm bad and wrong

01:33:42.870 --> 01:33:50.190
wrong because of that and that's how programming speaks either it's your problem or it's my problem

01:33:51.130 --> 01:33:54.190
you might go into the high high and say like there's no problem

01:33:55.370 --> 01:34:00.630
but that's not really free that's just like oh I'm you know it's not that I'm not good enough I am good

01:34:00.630 --> 01:34:09.210
enough but this is not this is not a free place so by being able to just suspend and keep it open

01:34:09.210 --> 01:34:14.710
and and stay innocent drawing no conclusions about yourself or about the other that you're

01:34:14.710 --> 01:34:19.450
communicating with that's really I want to call it the high road but it's more like the

01:34:19.450 --> 01:34:25.610
free road so I'll challenge you guys this week to see if in your communication in your

01:34:25.610 --> 01:34:34.730
conveyances in your digital this is a nuts that you could just keep an open mind just

01:34:34.730 --> 01:34:40.730
keep stay open don't conclude don't think for them don't don't decide how they feel

01:34:40.730 --> 01:34:47.230
especially about you never decide how somebody feels that is just the pile of crap why

01:34:47.230 --> 01:34:54.650
because emotions are a moving target if you decide how somebody feels it's so fiction it's so nothing

01:34:55.470 --> 01:35:01.290
and yes maybe they did feel that in a moment and maybe they will feel that again in a moment but

01:35:01.290 --> 01:35:09.630
it's really irrelevant it's that is not the thing to be conveyed is our feelings the thing to be

01:35:09.630 --> 01:35:14.890
conveyed just to draw a line under the whole purpose of this the thing to actually convey

01:35:14.890 --> 01:35:20.790
is love and that comes from freedom because freedom and love are the same

01:35:22.190 --> 01:35:26.790
so yeah I was just looking at my post today it wasn't that popular just a couple of people

01:35:26.790 --> 01:35:31.910
liked it but I did get some responses from it here maybe I'll share it and show you guys

01:35:32.490 --> 01:35:37.170
sometimes I will just put things out I I have like an interesting question

01:35:37.630 --> 01:35:44.370
I guess I can stop that for now and and then it's fun because why it creates engagement

01:35:44.990 --> 01:35:51.770
and I get to know people in the process so let's see is it here nope it's not there yet

01:35:51.770 --> 01:35:57.970
there it is can you guys see that at all maybe I'll make it bigger yeah so um

01:35:59.290 --> 01:36:03.390
I said in my work with clients over the past two decades I've noticed there are

01:36:03.390 --> 01:36:10.710
three to four fears that are most intensely suppressed can you name them so let's see if anybody

01:36:10.710 --> 01:36:15.890
I didn't offer a prize but I let's see if anybody got the prize Marta said you have a fear that your

01:36:15.890 --> 01:36:25.150
truth is not true that I've believed in I don't know what that means now my life is broken

01:36:25.150 --> 01:36:32.470
I made too many bad choices she's a fear that her truth is not true okay so that's good

01:36:32.470 --> 01:36:36.450
see like that's data I that wasn't in my my top three or four

01:36:38.770 --> 01:36:44.410
but that's that's beautiful that's really good data for me see how like if I just have this open

01:36:45.470 --> 01:36:50.950
I'm open to the exchange and I'm open to this information that she's bringing so that's

01:36:50.950 --> 01:36:56.910
that's like really cool to hear the fear that your truth is not true so that's amazing I'll

01:36:56.910 --> 01:37:04.970
back and respond to that John said spiders and clowns and I asked him what what's even worse than

01:37:04.970 --> 01:37:10.870
that clowns are definitely scary Melanie said fear of failure fear of not being good enough

01:37:10.870 --> 01:37:18.590
fear of death so Melanie is a trained coach and she's very very versed in programming and I consider

01:37:18.590 --> 01:37:25.710
her to be one of the coaches that can help me which I am very grateful for and so she's tuning

01:37:25.710 --> 01:37:31.050
in these are these she's she's pointing two programs for the most part although the fear of failure

01:37:31.750 --> 01:37:39.050
could be any of those programs but yeah the the fear of death is on my top three and four so she

01:37:39.050 --> 01:37:45.590
got one of them she gets a prize and Chrissy Snow said personal safety social interactions and

01:37:45.590 --> 01:37:51.630
health so she's asking and yeah so there there are underneath that say personal safety is

01:37:51.630 --> 01:37:57.050
definitely on the top of the list like like Melanie said fear of dying right fear of not existing

01:37:57.050 --> 01:38:06.190
that is that is on the top of the heap absolutely fear of personal situation social interactions

01:38:06.190 --> 01:38:11.970
yeah so like kind of social anxiety and health and if you drill down underneath those like why

01:38:11.970 --> 01:38:17.730
why is there a social anxiety why there is fear around health health is sort of an obvious

01:38:17.730 --> 01:38:27.010
one that can be more of the fear of dying right like if you're not healthy and you're struggling

01:38:27.010 --> 01:38:34.450
then you might die right and let's see Diane said I'll just interrupt my post here she said

01:38:35.110 --> 01:38:39.670
if I find I make a meaningless post and I get lots of comments and likes but when the post is a

01:38:39.670 --> 01:38:44.830
serious concern it's like I don't exist right so you're having some maybe similar

01:38:44.830 --> 01:38:51.230
kind of experiences possibly and for me I wonder if it's that people are looking for an outlet to

01:38:51.230 --> 01:38:56.010
more fun and ease in their life as opposed to all the seriousness of the world right yeah so like

01:38:56.010 --> 01:39:05.210
I can be now I consider myself a Scorpio my birthday is actually coming up in nine days and but it

01:39:05.210 --> 01:39:11.990
turns out I'm a Libra and so but I have adopted this just like I can be a serious person and

01:39:11.990 --> 01:39:17.130
I can be someone who's like you know I would like to do comedy I do aspire to comedy it's possible

01:39:17.130 --> 01:39:22.870
in my next life I will be a comedian it's possible I'd like to do that but but yeah so I can I can

01:39:22.870 --> 01:39:30.090
empathize with that that sometimes people they don't want anything heavy or anything serious or

01:39:30.090 --> 01:39:34.230
meaningful which all you know serious can go along with meaningful

01:39:37.810 --> 01:39:44.950
and yep nice to see Melanie here Maya said fear of pain came up for you as you detox lately yeah

01:39:44.950 --> 01:39:51.150
yeah fear of pain a lot of people feel like they have more fear of pain and suffering than they do

01:39:51.150 --> 01:39:59.770
of dying but I think it's the other way around that it's just easier to fear pain and and less

01:39:59.770 --> 01:40:06.730
easy to feel the fear of not existing so and they might be very intimately tied as well but

01:40:06.730 --> 01:40:11.830
I'm sorry you've been going through that that sucks so just going back to this post oh Sean

01:40:12.410 --> 01:40:19.250
tuned in I really love S.B. Elger he said death are not not surviving yep that's right on the

01:40:19.250 --> 01:40:25.610
list being humiliated or failing that might be another program losing the love and approval

01:40:25.610 --> 01:40:34.390
of people humiliation is definitely a fear not knowing what's next unpredictability overwhelming

01:40:34.390 --> 01:40:41.430
sense of control or no control yeah and separation right so Sean is also a trained coach in in the

01:40:41.430 --> 01:40:49.990
journey code style and so he's beautifully pointing right to programs in the in the in his answers

01:40:49.990 --> 01:40:55.850
there oh and Diane who is here also chimed in I hope you don't mind if I read your post

01:40:56.850 --> 01:41:02.890
fear of abandonment interesting I was interested to see if anyone would point towards those so that's

01:41:02.890 --> 01:41:07.970
that's one of the child shadows one of the the top if there's a top three

01:41:09.570 --> 01:41:15.890
fears of the child one is the fear of abandonment another is the fear of betrayal

01:41:15.890 --> 01:41:24.190
abandonment and betrayal very close very close in in there you know there there there can be a

01:41:24.190 --> 01:41:30.070
difference and people often polarize nature those are the who are more like a nature child will fear

01:41:30.070 --> 01:41:35.990
betrayal more than abandonment the those that have the magic child side of the magic more so

01:41:35.990 --> 01:41:43.650
that would be me have a greater degree of fear of abandonment and she says she feels it's

01:41:43.650 --> 01:41:48.690
possibly embedded in every human and yeah it's it's like a hard wiring right that's what the

01:41:48.690 --> 01:41:56.670
archetypes are they're actually hard wiring and so they have certain scripts and prescripts not just

01:41:56.670 --> 01:42:02.810
of ways of being but ways of thinking and ways of feeling that the whole architecture of our

01:42:02.810 --> 01:42:11.110
inner life gets formed and most likely every newborn in some way shape or form when their

01:42:11.110 --> 01:42:15.970
needs were not met which is kind of the vast majority of everybody right like a good luck meeting

01:42:15.970 --> 01:42:23.230
the every single need of an infant every single day every single moment of their life even that you

01:42:23.230 --> 01:42:29.730
know even the very best heroic efforts will probably fall short and then never mind the style of

01:42:29.730 --> 01:42:35.910
like oh cry it out and they should sleep alone as a newborn and all that absolute crap I'm

01:42:35.910 --> 01:42:42.670
sorry that boils my blood when I hear about it now left in the crib too long delayed feeding

01:42:43.570 --> 01:42:49.950
punishments they didn't understand or or deserve by any means the list is long where a child can

01:42:49.950 --> 01:42:56.270
feel abandoned I know it's tragic actually totally tragic fear of showing up as our true self

01:42:56.270 --> 01:43:01.870
interesting where is my list now I want to compare it to that did I even bring it I

01:43:01.870 --> 01:43:08.170
wasn't sure I was gonna get it yeah let's see if I'll I'm gonna share the punchline with you guys

01:43:08.170 --> 01:43:15.170
just for thanks for being here with me I will I will share my answers as soon as I go through

01:43:15.170 --> 01:43:20.770
these and yeah if you're showing up as your true self that I think that has to make the list

01:43:21.250 --> 01:43:25.510
I think that has to make the list that makes the list more like five rather than four

01:43:25.510 --> 01:43:32.330
um yep yep being your actual self that is terrifying isn't it good point

01:43:32.970 --> 01:43:37.210
fear of not being understood that's kind of what we're talking about today yet that major fear

01:43:37.210 --> 01:43:42.570
of not being understood is kind of a nemesis and then the fear of the dark

01:43:43.430 --> 01:43:48.650
uh but she puts it in parentheses and evil spirit satan devil evil people because we've

01:43:48.650 --> 01:43:52.670
been programmed from day one that there's something out there that's going to get us

01:43:52.670 --> 01:43:57.110
the boogeyman yep exactly yeah thanks for your very thoughtful response day and

01:43:57.110 --> 01:44:04.330
you can always be serious on my facebook and then juliana said uh fear of dying so she got

01:44:04.330 --> 01:44:10.610
that one according to my standard or not my standard my observations uh being ostracized

01:44:10.610 --> 01:44:18.430
by the group yeah yeah yeah that uh that fear of separation I might have to but that that also

01:44:18.430 --> 01:44:26.670
can back up to the fear of not existing that fear of dying so I think that folds in there

01:44:27.990 --> 01:44:34.310
and uh yeah fear of dying was next Maya said I'll take this down for now

01:44:35.970 --> 01:44:42.310
and uh Diane said we forget physical pain otherwise we would never have more than one child

01:44:42.310 --> 01:44:48.910
yep yep we'd never have more than one anything because everything turns to pain at some point

01:44:49.590 --> 01:44:52.190
fear of loneliness fear of being alone yep

01:44:56.410 --> 01:45:01.030
I can feel my voice is starting to peter out I'll probably start to wrap it up soon

01:45:01.970 --> 01:45:08.850
and hello uh a dot 911 I like your name you never let your baby sleep in a separate room

01:45:08.850 --> 01:45:16.110
God bless you I won't I won't judge or call anybody out that did that but it's not natural

01:45:16.110 --> 01:45:22.610
that those children are in you for nine months they should be on you for at least nine months

01:45:22.610 --> 01:45:31.690
after that right that's how you create much greater potential for security and a fear of

01:45:31.690 --> 01:45:36.930
scarcity yeah interesting now that could bridge over absolutely everything that could be like the

01:45:36.930 --> 01:45:42.890
maha maha meaning great in Sanskrit could be the the maha fear fear of scarcity yep

01:45:43.550 --> 01:45:49.950
and I think it could be equally paired with fear of uh abundance too which they often end up like

01:45:49.950 --> 01:45:55.250
that that you fear the good thing as much as you fear the bad thing especially because we're in a

01:45:55.250 --> 01:46:03.330
weird world and you didn't mean that children were a pain yeah no they are a pain they're

01:46:03.330 --> 01:46:07.730
beautiful pain they're very purposeful pain this kind of uh giving away one of my answers

01:46:07.730 --> 01:46:12.570
and you meant that childbirth was physically painful exactly yeah yeah well the whole gamut

01:46:12.570 --> 01:46:17.350
right the the whole the whole gamut of it when I had one child a young a young child

01:46:17.350 --> 01:46:23.610
then when he was more like a baby and the toddler I marveled at people who had more than one

01:46:23.610 --> 01:46:30.230
I'm like how do you do that how is that even possible I I thought that was just like

01:46:31.030 --> 01:46:39.070
off the charts but I but I but I got it I totally get you yeah so if I share my top

01:46:42.010 --> 01:46:50.270
four or five fears that I notice people have the biggest scariest things like everybody said

01:46:50.270 --> 01:46:58.510
death or non-existence that is like the biggest one the next one is the fear of

01:47:01.630 --> 01:47:09.810
meaninglessness right that you could get to the end of your day and have that that

01:47:09.810 --> 01:47:16.630
our realization that your day didn't mean anything that not for yourself or not for others

01:47:17.990 --> 01:47:24.350
and you know what what is the making of meaning is purpose so those could be the fear of

01:47:24.350 --> 01:47:30.290
purposelessness I don't know this is one that I find is is very very big also very suppressed

01:47:30.830 --> 01:47:35.450
because sometimes we can't really or we feel like we can't do anything about that in the

01:47:35.450 --> 01:47:41.410
in the lives that we have in slave world so it's possible that fear of meaninglessness and the

01:47:41.410 --> 01:47:45.370
fear of purposelessness might be the actual same thing that's why I said three or four

01:47:46.550 --> 01:47:51.590
fear of being yourself I add it to the list because yes that is massive

01:47:52.230 --> 01:47:56.730
and then there's one more fear and and this is a fear of something that we would

01:47:56.730 --> 01:48:00.790
consider to be positive can you guys guess what the fear is of

01:48:02.610 --> 01:48:08.990
just for fun in these last couple of minutes should I come up with a prize if anybody gets it

01:48:09.610 --> 01:48:32.610
this one is shocking give me just one second please I am back oh interesting answer Diane

01:48:32.610 --> 01:48:39.670
fear of loving yourself that's so that's so tricky that the the spiritual world

01:48:40.930 --> 01:48:46.970
propagandized that we should love ourselves and what I think ends up happening yeah Maya's

01:48:46.970 --> 01:48:54.150
more onto it but that's I'll just talk about this that the fear of loving yourself the the

01:48:54.150 --> 01:48:57.930
spiritual world oh you have to love yourself you can't love anyone if you don't love yourself

01:48:58.470 --> 01:49:07.770
and what it actually ends up doing is engaging the program the love hate program so as if you

01:49:07.770 --> 01:49:13.090
want to go from hating yourself to loving yourself now who could argue with with that right it seems

01:49:13.090 --> 01:49:19.110
that seems good and right that seems good and right but when love has an opposite and it's just

01:49:19.110 --> 01:49:23.630
the other side of the hate coin and you hate yourself and then you love yourself and

01:49:23.630 --> 01:49:26.630
you hate yourself and you love yourself and you hate your partner and then you love them

01:49:26.630 --> 01:49:32.910
and you hate them you love them right then that's that's um that's not it and and then but the fear

01:49:32.910 --> 01:49:37.930
of loving yourself interesting interesting so it's yeah I'm going to give that a little bit

01:49:37.930 --> 01:49:43.310
more thought thanks for that and then Maya said the fear of living which to me is is actually

01:49:44.110 --> 01:49:50.650
at the vibration level identical with the fear of not existing now that might not be obvious

01:49:50.650 --> 01:49:55.330
people might go huh what are you talking about but when you really truly observe the fear of

01:49:55.330 --> 01:50:01.330
dying it can show up as that fear of living so it's it's one more thing Maya can you guess

01:50:02.530 --> 01:50:12.650
it's it's like a kind of punchline it's the word that I use to describe that which has no words

01:50:13.350 --> 01:50:21.230
there's a lot of names of that I use it a lot it's my highest value it's uh people chant

01:50:21.230 --> 01:50:27.930
about it but they don't have a hot clue what it is they make it relative to things

01:50:29.010 --> 01:50:34.070
which makes it not that thing I know I'm just speaking in riddles here see if anybody gets it

01:50:34.070 --> 01:50:43.290
I'll give you one more minute have a little drink of something here so

01:50:45.950 --> 01:50:50.950
fear of health interesting yeah yeah so I think you guys are going in the in the right

01:50:50.950 --> 01:50:56.730
general direction with that so so the biggest fear of all is freedom

01:50:58.030 --> 01:51:03.230
this is the biggest fear hands down I see it over and over and over again

01:51:04.070 --> 01:51:10.130
and the more developed that somebody is in their release work the more they're going to

01:51:10.130 --> 01:51:15.370
be able to tap into this basic fear and you know simple metaphor can describe it

01:51:16.310 --> 01:51:22.910
when you try when a bird has lived in a cage its whole life and you open the door and you're

01:51:22.910 --> 01:51:30.690
going to set it free it freaks out right acts like you're trying to kill it freedom registers as

01:51:31.750 --> 01:51:39.490
as a danger it's the same purpose registers as a danger meaning can also register as a danger

01:51:39.490 --> 01:51:48.190
of course death registers as a danger but life registers as a danger being yourself the easiest

01:51:48.190 --> 01:51:56.910
thing in the world to be yourself registers as a danger and this is pointing all towards upside

01:51:56.910 --> 01:52:03.430
down world and upside down world gets immense and that's the unconscious I'm not just talking

01:52:04.090 --> 01:52:09.110
this is what we don't know it's inverted that's why all the inversions work on people because

01:52:09.110 --> 01:52:16.810
they're all inverted inside themselves already this makes people highly controllable it makes them

01:52:16.810 --> 01:52:25.070
like they don't want freedom they in fact want to be controlled and you can't make somebody want

01:52:25.070 --> 01:52:31.810
freedom that's that is the elixir by the way if you can if you can want freedom and face your

01:52:31.810 --> 01:52:40.390
fears of freedom then this is very productive work to me it's like the ultimate work

01:52:41.770 --> 01:52:47.070
so yeah and and that's an interesting point that everyone's definition of freedom varies

01:52:47.910 --> 01:52:53.670
it's why I'll never define it for anybody and why I know it to be undefinable

01:52:54.370 --> 01:52:58.550
and I can say things about it I could probably talk all day about that

01:52:58.550 --> 01:53:05.390
and and it won't touch it right so it's it's the same as all of that which can't be named which is

01:53:05.390 --> 01:53:12.070
the same but we can know it even though it can't be named and it can't be described and it's not a

01:53:12.070 --> 01:53:23.230
thing but we can be scared of it so yeah you know language language falls apart when you get

01:53:23.230 --> 01:53:29.650
into ultimate truth it just does and a lot of people end up putting themselves in word jail by

01:53:29.650 --> 01:53:34.150
trying to be too careful with their words this was one other point I wanted to make and and then

01:53:34.150 --> 01:53:40.590
they choose their words so carefully that there's no flow in their communication there's no freedom

01:53:40.590 --> 01:53:46.990
in the communication and they're so busy trying to not say like you know in the alternative

01:53:46.990 --> 01:53:52.950
law world this is the best example they started always saying they're never saying the word understand

01:53:53.630 --> 01:54:00.110
because they sigh opt us into believing that if you say understand in some kind of official public

01:54:00.670 --> 01:54:07.170
context that you are agreeing to stand under somebody else and it's a pile of crap you guys

01:54:07.170 --> 01:54:12.090
it's just a pile of crap all they want to know is that you have ears to hear and you're

01:54:12.090 --> 01:54:17.770
understanding them so that you know you're not retarded and they can't you can't come back later

01:54:17.770 --> 01:54:22.770
and go I had no idea what you were talking about they are like do you get it it's not the word

01:54:23.450 --> 01:54:29.450
they they want to know that you are actually getting it and and then so then then they start

01:54:29.450 --> 01:54:37.370
saying oh I understand or I this or that and then we're we we interrupt our own authentic

01:54:37.890 --> 01:54:45.950
freedom of expression by doing machinations with the words and what words should I use and not word

01:54:45.950 --> 01:54:52.370
and everything you know and and and I learned say about the word God which to me is freedom

01:54:53.710 --> 01:54:59.130
right not as a thing it's a source of anything and of everything

01:55:00.830 --> 01:55:05.930
but this is something that you know the word God if you go and you look at the word God

01:55:05.930 --> 01:55:12.130
turns out it's not a good one it's not a good word it just isn't the the source of it if you go back

01:55:12.130 --> 01:55:18.070
in the etymology and the Hebrew and and and the words they swapped in and everything it's a cultural

01:55:18.070 --> 01:55:23.370
sigh up that we use the word God but I've used it my whole life and I've used it to identify

01:55:23.370 --> 01:55:31.370
the unidentifiable right to have a word so we could convey and and connect and and you know

01:55:31.370 --> 01:55:39.990
I I can say the word God and people can be reminded of their source and they can know that

01:55:39.990 --> 01:55:46.190
and that's a very high conveyance it's like the ultimate conveyance we used to play this game

01:55:46.190 --> 01:55:52.530
in India when I went I had a guru on a mountain I went eight times to sit in front of him and

01:55:52.530 --> 01:55:58.810
and be with the people and we did something called satsang some people might recognize that

01:55:58.810 --> 01:56:05.990
it's the company of truth and this could be one of those fears like that your truth isn't your

01:56:05.990 --> 01:56:14.570
truth like I think it was Diana was saying or maybe somebody else and and this company of truth

01:56:15.090 --> 01:56:24.110
we would be using words to to convey now none of the words ended up accurate they're just not

01:56:24.110 --> 01:56:30.790
once you get into that realm you're off the map of the intellect you're off the map of the emotions

01:56:31.310 --> 01:56:39.510
you're you're off the map you're you're like at the source of the map but if everybody's on the same

01:56:40.990 --> 01:56:48.130
with the same intention of freedom through the conversation of satsang through the exchange

01:56:48.130 --> 01:56:56.390
then you get that right and and it amplifies we're two or more or gathered even though I think the

01:56:56.390 --> 01:57:01.810
mental effect mangled that or something like that that doesn't exist anymore when you get

01:57:01.810 --> 01:57:06.170
witness to the truth that's what satsang means keeping the company of truth and that's what

01:57:06.170 --> 01:57:11.770
this is kind of is breath of fresh air for me is is it kind of satsang where we can sit

01:57:11.770 --> 01:57:16.990
around the fire of truth and we can we can point towards it with our words knowing the

01:57:16.990 --> 01:57:26.350
words don't really qualify it they don't contain it but we can still share an experience of truth

01:57:26.350 --> 01:57:33.690
of freedom of purpose all of these things that are nameless and have have no ability to describe

01:57:33.690 --> 01:57:42.290
and yet can be conveyed why why is that because we are at the source of the conveyance that's

01:57:42.290 --> 01:57:49.330
where we actually are that's the reality of it and this is our greatest fear so if I have a wish

01:57:49.330 --> 01:57:57.290
for humanity it is to get past these big ones right fear of dying fear of purpose fear of

01:57:57.290 --> 01:58:04.730
meaninglessness which are two sides of that same coin fear of being your authentic self fear of

01:58:04.730 --> 01:58:09.190
freedom and maybe all of those are the same anyway maybe they all boil down into that

01:58:09.190 --> 01:58:18.670
basic fear of not existing all right so I think I covered the waters of what I wanted to convey

01:58:20.250 --> 01:58:25.270
and thank you so much for being here for those of you who participate and and play along I will

01:58:25.270 --> 01:58:31.870
be back next Friday which will be let's see what the date will be a few

01:58:34.390 --> 01:58:40.850
I'm going to guess that 14 7 plus 7 is 14 I'll be back on Friday the 14th at 2 p.m. central

01:58:40.850 --> 01:58:47.910
standard time and I'm starting to come and get better from that disorder the time

01:58:47.910 --> 01:58:52.630
change disorder is starting to wear off a little bit I'm I'm not nearly as traumatized as I

01:58:52.630 --> 01:58:58.610
was before so that's good that's progress all right my dearest I love you very much you

01:58:58.610 --> 01:59:06.370
can find me at Beth martins.com you can do a if you'd like to help me share out this

01:59:06.950 --> 01:59:12.730
stream I would love that here is a link in the chat of the best link to share

01:59:13.370 --> 01:59:18.310
that goes to my blog first and then they can choose which platforms they'd like to go on I

01:59:18.310 --> 01:59:23.990
think I did fail on rumble today so I'll have to go in and upload this to rumble you can do a

01:59:23.990 --> 01:59:31.490
king hero archetype quiz to find yourself on the map of purpose and start facing some of those fears

01:59:31.490 --> 01:59:40.190
of the purposeful or the meaningless life because this is definitely a massive breakthrough and

01:59:40.190 --> 01:59:47.550
I know that if enough people were able to answer to their callings that they would become

01:59:47.550 --> 01:59:53.530
uncontrollable in the process so that is my hope for humanity this is the level that I work at

01:59:53.990 --> 02:00:00.390
I do help people in the realm of coaching whether that's personal one-on-one or in groups when I'm

02:00:00.390 --> 02:00:07.250
running groups there will be a course coming up not until January but in the meantime I if you're

02:00:07.250 --> 02:00:11.530
interested in receiving some assistance or learning through one of my courses

02:00:12.910 --> 02:00:16.950
just put your hand up reach out to me could be on telegram could be on

02:00:17.450 --> 02:00:25.170
Facebook or Instagram or by email beth at bath martins.com you can send a note to me at my website

02:00:25.170 --> 02:00:30.430
if you're looking for any assistance then you can do that and if you do this quiz first it's always

02:00:30.430 --> 02:00:36.110
really fun just to find out where you are at at this time you can do this quiz more than once

02:00:36.110 --> 02:00:40.310
by the way I don't recommend doing it all the time but just to see how are you traveling

02:00:40.310 --> 02:00:43.870
on that hero's journey I had a friend yesterday that I talked to one second

02:00:48.150 --> 02:00:54.170
and and he was saying like what's the this is a beautiful point maybe well to serve its own

02:00:54.170 --> 02:00:58.930
stream but we'll see he was just talking about like what's the culmination of the hero's journey

02:00:58.930 --> 02:01:02.790
because that's a big part of the focus that I have the archetypes of the hero's journey

02:01:03.870 --> 02:01:08.210
and he said like we know what's when are you done when are you finished and and then

02:01:08.210 --> 02:01:13.630
but he knows me by now that I treat all of those things to be scales or they are scales

02:01:13.630 --> 02:01:21.010
spirals that when you get to the end you're at the beginning again that's a basic premise of

02:01:21.010 --> 02:01:27.830
all of the work that I do and so the same the same answer the purpose of the archetypes the

02:01:27.830 --> 02:01:34.350
purpose of knowing the hero's journey finding yourself is freedom right to get the purpose

02:01:34.350 --> 02:01:40.150
of the map is to get off of the map so I'll leave you with that might be sound like a

02:01:40.150 --> 02:01:47.550
little bit of a riddle to some people and otherwise I think that is going to be close to it let me

02:01:47.550 --> 02:01:54.690
see if I can set up my outro there it is

02:01:58.390 --> 02:02:04.030
and so much love to you guys thank you for coming I appreciate it it's been fun for me I hope it

02:02:04.030 --> 02:02:05.610
has been for you as well