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later on, but you're living in Copenhagen, right? Yeah, I'm in Copenhagen, Denmark. I'm from Chicago

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originally. Yep. Yeah, that's nice. What brought you out there? Oh, yeah, I came here years ago

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in 98 with a band and then ended up married, had a kid and was torn around lived in England,

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went around the world for a year. So yeah, I just life, life just happened. Nice. Yeah,

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do you like it out there? I've kind of done the same thing where I live in Budapest right

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now, but I'm from Lincoln, Nebraska. So I've been here for about four years and I met my

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girlfriend and I've just been here since. So kind of similar. Yeah, it's really cool. I mean,

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I left America so long ago. I feel more Europeanized now, you know, since nine, I mean, it's been

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27 years. It's more than half my life. I've been over here. So I love the States, but

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I just don't feel American anymore. Definitely. Yeah. So I guess going into the whole

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truth aspect of things, what started your whole journey of being curious and looking for truth?

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And, you know, what has been your North Star, I guess, in finding truth?

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I don't really know. I think like looking way back, sort of 9-11, I think for a lot of people

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before that, I had already been looking at some stuff like the, the spider's web about the

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U.S. funding Iraq, you know, the flight I ran through farm credits through Banco Internationale

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in Italy and selling them cluster bombs through Brazil under farm credit. So I was like, I already

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knew there was some dodgy crap going on. And I think 9-11, I think it was that loose change

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documentary really a buddy sent it to me was like, check this out. And I was like, whoa.

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So then I kind of started digging in like, what's going on here? And, you know,

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as you start going down the rabbit holes, I found G Edward Griffith and Jordan Maxwell and,

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you know, David Ike, Alan Watt, the Scottish guy cutting through the matrix. And I started

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to find some people and then that led me down into the occult. And I started getting a lot

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into the occult. And because I realized like the people behind the curtains, they are using

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numerology, gematria, occult rituals, they're doing things on certain dates.

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And you know, you just start digging, you start diving down the holes and you find out most of

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them are dead ends put there on purpose to keep you doing that, you know, so it kind of was

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that. And then, yeah. And then I took all kinds of different routes. I got into health and

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virology and that fraud back. And when my son was born, I wanted to know, should I vaccinate

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or not? Because I had family members hurt by vaccines and I had, you know, I had been sick

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myself from some. So, yeah, I just started getting into all kinds of roads of research. And then

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you find out histories alive. So I start going down the history route. And eventually after 20,

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you know, I've been studying all this stuff since 2004 or five, you start to find out it

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all keeps coming back full circle and into the same places, you know, and you go, oh, okay,

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this is all connected. So that's kind of where we're at now, you know, I'm just one of the,

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I'm one of the new OGs, I guess you'd call it, you're like the OG, you know, you're like the new

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before me, there was only like, like I said, five or there's only a handful of researchers,

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you know, Dr. John Coleman. So I'm standing on the shoulders of those guys and taking Michael

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Tisarian and taking it farther. And now after 20 years, I'm like one of the new OG grandpas

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passing the torch on to the younger generation. So it's interesting. It's great.

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Yeah, definitely. Definitely. What do you think are some of the most, you know,

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mind boggling things that you've uncovered along in the journey?

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I mean, right now I'm working on a finish in a film called Apocalypse Infinity, where I'm going back to

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the hidden ancient Irish origins of civilization that it all came out of Ireland, which was probably

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post what they call Atlantis. It didn't come out of Africa, it didn't come from east to west,

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like they claim. These Irish Druids are the ones who went around the whole world

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teaching religion, science, arts, astronomy, all these, you hear about these blue-eyed red-haired

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people that all the natives say turned up and taught these languages, which is an ancient

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hidden language, Galga. And that kind of leads into the Luciferian Setian Atmos.

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It's called the Roman thing, it's kind of the Jews, you know, but you start to find out that

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there's a rogue branch of these druidic sorcerers who have been running the world for a long time,

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thousands of years. And it's a rogue branch of these people, and they've been hiding our true

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history through religions, creating the Abrahamic religion so they can get people

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to follow their bidding to do what we call the New World Order, which isn't New at all,

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it's very old. But you ever noticed, I talked to a lot of people, they think the Bible is

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coming through the prophecies, you know, they're like, it does seem like that until you understand

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they're doing this on purpose, because this is how they get people to do what they want,

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they're playing chess over many, many centuries. So I find that all really, really fascinating.

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I just find it all really fascinating, and I love the occult, I'm really into the occult.

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Yeah, I'd definitely like to go into that more, but I have a quick question. And so in regards

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to that, how would you say that modern technology is playing an impact on that? Because, you know,

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the area that I really focus on with my father is we talk about privacy, and basically they're

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creating a control grid, in my opinion, where they want to, you know, control every aspect of

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your life through digital IDs, CBDCs, a social credit system. And another area that I talk

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about that is the propaganda that they're able to spread to the youth, the way that they're

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able to basically brainwash people and do this, what I call it mass individual propaganda,

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because they have this profile on you, and then they're able to brainwash you. So

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how would you say that modern technology is kind of impacting this?

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I would say that modern technology and the way you're describing it, and we can get into

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AI, I saw a video because I'm not so familiar with you and your dad's work, but I saw your

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very against AI, which is interesting, I have friends on both sides, because it is being used

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nefariously. What I would say is the whole technocracy of this modern infrastructure of control

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is just an extension of the same mind control they used to do naturally. These people are masters

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of psychology and the human psyche. They have been studying, they spend billions on think tanks

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and studies, they know our psychology and they have known this for thousands of years.

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They know how we tick, they know that we repeat what we see, monkey see, monkey do. In fact,

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my friend Jason Kristoff, I don't know if you know him, he's got a new documentary plan at

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mind control. It's really good, it's only an hour and people should watch it. So they've

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already known this, what they're just doing is bringing it into a new age. They're also

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into transhumanism because the old druidic religion, they branched off from, those people

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believed and I'm not saying that the world, this has happened, they believe that everyone incarnates

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for about a thousand years until they get seven perfected cycles where we get rid of the need

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for all the physical, the sex, all the fun, all the shit going on in your food.

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These people don't, and then you perfect what's called your solar body or your christed body

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and you don't incarnate here anymore. You move on to another layer of existence. They don't want

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that. They want to be kings and gods on earth. They have no, no desire to get out of here.

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So while they're here, they want to be kings of the roost and they do a lot of inbreeding.

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They have a lot of strange beliefs that make them think they keep incarnating into these

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same families, whether they do or don't, I don't know, but they have beliefs like this.

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So part of the technocracy is longevity for them. Part of it is get rid of us. They want

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the robots to take over us because there's too many of us to control. It gets really hard.

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The computers are going to be one way to do it, but not even only 60% of the world are even on

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all this modern infrastructure. There's still a lot of people sitting out in jungles and shit.

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They might have a cell phone, but that's about it. They're not going to put them on digital

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ID out in the jungles of Thailand. It's not going to happen or the slums of India.

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So that's one part too. The technocracy, to me, as I see it, is just a modern extension of what

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they've always known, which is mind control. And it's really all about energy. So everything

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is energy. They farm us as cattle, but what they're farming is our energy. We give our

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work and attention into money, which is called currency, current, electric currency.

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And that's what this is all about is they want to put an energetic value on everything,

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every blade of grass, every toaster. You won't be able to open your fridge if they get your way

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because it'll be like fat. So you've eaten this much cheese already. You've hit your cheese

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quota to lock your fridge on you or your card will shut off or you've hit your meat quota.

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Now you've got to eat bugs for the next two months. But that's really what they're doing

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is they're trying to put an energetic price tag on everything and control it all. That's what I

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see. What do you and your father see from your end of that side? I think that's right. I mean,

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the whole thing is they just want to set up this system where they can monitor at your

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every move and then use. So Glenn is definitely very not against AI. He sees it more as a tool

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and it can be good or bad depending on the purpose. I agree with that to some degree, but I think

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a lot of people are just unaware and they're using it dangerously. It's kind of like a gun

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if you're using a gun without knowing how to use it properly basically. And also how it's being

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used against us. So I think really we're being conditioned to fall into convenience,

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this trap of convenience where you want the easiest thing, especially the youth. I really

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think they're under attack with social media, how they get drawn into it, how it really messes

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with their dopamine. And I don't know. I think a lot of people feel very hopeless. And I think

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that's part of it where they feel hopeless. And then they create these artificial problems. So they

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have artificial solutions that allow a system of control. And then that's how they gain more

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power. That is the mind control right there. You've just nailed it. You notice when you

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look around your regular life, everything's pretty good unless you live in Gaza or you're getting

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blown up in the Middle East right now. But usually everything's great. Everyone around you is pretty

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cool. Then you turn on your computer or your TV or your radio and all of a sudden, oh my God,

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everything is terrible. And you're like, is it really though? They are just bombarding you

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with that constantly. And the dopamine is a big one. All the dopamine hits and the attention

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span, you notice when we were growing up the cartoons in the 70s, they would sit on scenes a

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little longer and they'd have long conversations. Now it's flashing every three seconds. And this

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is carrying over and the kids adult attention spans. They can't pay attention because they're

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used to every two seconds something is moving or changing. And the dopamine is causing mental

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illness. That's why you're seeing a lot this is known like too much dopamine causes mental illness.

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And a lot of what we see in the left, especially in America, I don't know about you and Budapest,

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I don't see like so many of these crazy, you know, extreme laughs. I'm not saying I'm,

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I have no problem with the left or the right. It's the extremes on both sides that are

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fucking nuts are part of my friends. And I think you're seeing a lot of that crazy because

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of this dopamine addiction. And I think it's there on purpose. And AI is, is now taking over quite a

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lot of these feeds or scroll, I don't know, whatever you call these reels, I guess they call them on

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TikTok, Instagram, Facebook. A lot of it's just AI generated now. And it's just they're

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five seconds of nonsense. It's a waste of even looking at, and it's just the cartoon 3.0.

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It's just messing with your brain so that you don't have the attention span to pay attention

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and focus and do things that are important. So I'm with you. I think the AI can be a tool and

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will be for some people. I have heard every time you do an AI search, it takes like a liter of

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water or something to do it. I don't know if this is true. But since waters are most

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precious commodity fresh water, people, I mean, they're already want to control the water,

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and they're moving it around in the sky via geoengineering. Do you really want to be

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wasting the last of our drinking water on this shit doing AI searches?

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Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I think people are really out of balance in life altogether. I mean, people

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always say touch grass, but then they go outside and they are still on their phones.

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And one of the things I talk about is when my father would go out, you know,

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maybe he clocks off work, and then he goes to see his friends, maybe they go bowling or a

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bar or whatever. He's fully disconnected. He's there in the moment. But now you go out with people

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and they're just constantly connected to their phone. Maybe they're still working, maybe,

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you know, whatever, they're scrolling, but there's never this disconnect. And it's,

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I always talk about this. So if you're listening and you've heard me say this before,

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sorry, but I really love Leonardo da Vinci. And he was a genius because he was curious.

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And the problem is he was curious. I mean, he was curious because he was bored.

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And no one's bored anymore, especially the youth. They're not bored because they have this constant

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dopamine drip. And so I think that's really causing ourselves to become, you know,

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blind in a lot of ways. I, well, that's interesting. You say that, Eric, because

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they're not bored, bored, but they're spiritually bored. They have no creativity.

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They have no desire to draw or paint like all the paintings in my house. They're mine. I

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made them. They don't want to write books. They don't want, they can't even read books

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anymore. They just want like video or audio. So it's that their imagination has been stolen

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from them. So they're, they need to be fed activity rather than creativity. That's the

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huge difference between them and us. Now that said, like, I'm the same. I take, I don't have a car

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in Copenhagen. You're probably the same in Budapest. You don't need one. Like it drives me nuts. I

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can't get on and off the train like in a busy time. There's people looking in their phone

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walking through, you know, you're like, get the f out of the way. Like the door's open and there's 40 of

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us trying to ram in and out and you got your face and your phone like, come out to the real world,

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bro. You know, like, you know, that said, there's pictures of people in the 30s and 40s and 50s

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sitting on. There's 200 newspapers open. They're on their way to work with their face planted

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in the newspaper. So they were, they were doing the same shit then the phone is just the

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new newspaper. And the way I see it. So we forget that there's nothing new under the sun.

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But I agree. I see it when because I work in bars, I'm a singer and a entertainer. I see my generation

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when we're at the bar, we're talking to each other and about things. And I see the younger

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people like you're saying face planted in their phone. And it's going to be really hard on

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relationships, you know, these kids can't even go on a date anymore. As soon as one goes to

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the toilet, the other one's like phone quick. I've got two minutes, you know,

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or they're doing it right at the table. I've seen that with two, two kids. They're both looking

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at their phone. You're like, you're on a date. What are you doing, you know? But again, we're

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choosing to do that. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. So what do you think it will take for people to

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kind of get out of it? Do you feel optimistic? I agree with what you're saying about the

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spiritual boredom. I'm trying to like this last year, I've written a book. I love art.

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And I love actually, I haven't done music in a while, but I want to get back to it. But I think

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that is a huge component that people are missing in their life right now.

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Yeah, I think certain people will just get back to it. It's the same. I never did get on

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Instagram or TikTok or any of this and people keep telling me though you have a channel.

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I get, you know, 5 million views on X and 2 million views on TikTok and I only get 5,000 on

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YouTube. I'm like, yeah, but do I want to be sitting on X and Twitter and Instagram? I don't

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want to look at that. I already hate looking at my own comment threads. There's already too many,

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so I don't want that. But I think it's just like when you get, you know, when we were

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kids and you played a board game too many, you can only play Monopoly so many times when you're

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like, I'm bored of this. So I'm hoping people will get bored of all this Facebook and TikTok

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and Instagram and all this crap and want to go outside. I just saw a video of a,

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I can't remember who was talking, but he took his kids, took his kids out for like three days

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in a cabin where they just had a VCR with some videos the kids didn't want to see and

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know anything. And he said, like for two days, the kids were going nuts. But on day three,

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they went outside and started to play in the woods and they're out at night with a $2 flashlight,

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you know, like having the time of their life. So it only really took two days to disconnect.

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But you know, like, you know how the dopamine is, you're going to, if you're addicted to it,

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you're going to have withdrawal. It's going to be really hard to put that phone away. I

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bet if I bet even myself, I bet if I lost my phone for three days, I'd be going nuts

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for like two of them. Yeah. And I think that's one of the things that it's, it's a pretty insidious

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and addiction because it's, it's like a McDonald's or Doritos or something because in a way,

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if let's say someone's addicted to heroin, I think that is kind of easier to quit than McDonald's

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or like a phone because every time if they decide to quit, if they go back, they know

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that they can screw up their whole life. They could just, you know, cut that part

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of their life out. But McDonald's or for these phones, they're everywhere. They're

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normalized. You know, it's so easy. Your phone is with you at all times. You, it's that I think

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in a way that makes it one of the hardest addictions for the youth to get out over.

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Yeah, I think so. And, and it's all, I mean, the other, the, the great thing is I get it

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like these phones have a compass. There's a calculator. There's a message you can get

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on a map if you're lost. Like these things do everything that would have been amazing to

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have, you know, when I was a kid, like, Oh my God. But at the same time, I remember the

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days where you go out and meet your friends and like, if you had to be downtown Chicago

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at X o'clock, if you weren't there, we're leaving. We can't have no way to get a hold

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of you that we did have answering machines at home. So sometimes we could go to a payphone

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and say, Hey, it's what o'clock we're leaving. We'll be over there for 20 minutes.

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You know, and you could call home and get that. But that was it. You had to

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be in it or you're out, you know, and you don't have that anymore. It's also the same.

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I think we're also bombarded with too much intercommunication. And the old days, you

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know, great, you get a letter from someone handwritten out for three pages and you're

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like, wow, that, and you'd write, it would take a month or two till, you know,

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now people are texting you instantly, instantly, instantly, and they want to

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reply right now, you know, and it's like, dude, I, I have a life and so should you.

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Like, I can't sit here texting 500 people all day talking about the weather. Like,

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we're just not supposed to talk about all this stupid crap all the time. We, you know,

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we don't talk about anything of substance because we're too busy. What are you doing

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right now? It's like, who cares? Yeah, what? Yeah, what do you, the question is,

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why aren't you doing something where you care what I'm doing right now? You know,

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that's the way I see it. But is that just the way it is right now? I don't know.

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I can't see everyone just throwing their phones away. Although, you know, you're,

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you're more in the tech, you and your dad, this is your area. I have heard a lot more people are

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buying these old like Nokia flip phones and shit like that and just saying, fuck it, I just want

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text and call. So do you, how do you guys see that trend? Yeah, I think so. I mean, so one

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of our biggest things is if we're in tech, more so just we care about privacy for freedom,

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for liberty, not for the sake of tech. So we do recommend, you know, digital minimalism. That's

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a great way you can be private. And we have seen a lot of people are taking that trend up. I,

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I try to be as minimalistic. I work too much. So I need to stop working and get out more. But

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one of the reasons I went to Budapest actually was just because I felt like

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just kind of trapped with how everyone I knew was just so on their phone all the time. They

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wouldn't go out. They wouldn't do anything. And I just wanted to get out in Europe is

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definitely more social still thing. I mean, one thing people could do if they have time is just

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get out for a half an hour or 40, if you have time for 20 minutes, an hour,

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leave your phone at home and just go outside and take a walk. Look around. If you get into

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like tartare and stuff and you live like us, you happen to be in Europe, go look at the

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buildings, you know, I walk around now looking at the roofs of all these buildings and all this

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architecture. And I'm like, wow, I never looked at this stuff before. So you don't even have to

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be doing anything. Just go out and take a walk and look around and, you know, say hi to somebody

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once in a while, a stranger, you know, look them in the eye, take them by surprise, look them in

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the eyes, start up a conversation with someone and just see, you know, that you don't have

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to sit around painting or writing books or doing all that creative stuff. I think that's just one

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thing people can do is just get outside. That that's like a main thing. And also when you get home

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from work, if you have a day job or night like disconnect, you know, stop, stop talking about

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your working job, stop talking about shit that's not going on right now right here,

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you know, start to get more in the moment and in the game. I know a lot of people

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like Scandinavians are famous for that. They are obsessed with talking about work.

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You can't go to a dinner or party. They're like, I'm going to talk about my job. You're like,

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why you sit at it 50 hours a week, you want to talk about it the other 50 hours? Like, I don't

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get it. Yep. Yep. Definitely. So would you mind telling me a little bit more about the

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cold stuff that you've learned about and that you're into? Well, I mean, that's just a massive

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monster topic that I mean, that that could take, you know, hours and hours, but

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maybe the base layer just for someone listening that's never kind of gotten into it.

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I mean, the first thing I would do is I don't know if you've ever heard of Zachary K Hubbard,

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Jamatria Effect News 25 on YouTube, and he's got Jamatria Effect Sports.

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The, just the most basic thing you can do is start looking into Jamatria, which is the

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practice, the occult practice of coding letters into numbers and then those numbers add up into

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words. So we are taught, we learn words in our schools. When you're in these secret

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societies, they speak numbers. A is one, B is two, C is three, or there's a reverse, or

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when 13 gets applied to numerology, one plus three becomes four. And you find out that our calendar,

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our Roman Catholic, Gregorian calendar and our language, our English language, was set up as a

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numerology code by these advanced elites. You will start to see that everything that happened

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from Trump just bombing Iran to October 7th and 9 11, all of these things are done on purpose

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in a numerical code on certain days because they carry a numerical energy.

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And once you get this, and our sports are rigged, I'm sorry for all the people who love like NFL

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and all this, it's totally fixed. It's as fixed as WWF. And once you have these codes,

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you can start to learn that and see that. And then you can start seeing, okay,

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everything I see on the news, every story, every whatever, it's rigged by this code.

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These people are doing it on purpose. You stop thinking, oh, Donald Trump some more on, you know,

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I had chat GBT the other day. I tried to find the page in the art of the deal, the Donald Trump's

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book. In one of the pages, he said the most influential person in my life was my Jamatria

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teacher. Now, that's a pretty massive statement. This and he wrote that book before he was

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president. Well, where did you get a Jamatria teacher for starters? Why do you have a

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Jamatria teacher and why of all the people, a billionaire playboy like Donald Trump back in

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those days and businessman, would you credit that guy? Why wouldn't you credit everyone else?

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And it's because they know they do everything in the way they see it.

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This reality is sort of like the matrix, you could say that the ancient Druids figured

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out there is a numerical code or there's a mathematics, let's say, to this reality. And

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what they figured out is rather than fighting that they can sort of hack the code, so to speak.

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And if they start doing these certain things on certain dates with certain energetics,

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and they mimic those but change them, they have more of a profound effect on the totality of,

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let's call it the matrix or the reality code. This is why 9-11, all these numbers people are like,

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how come the planes keep hitting at this number? And there's all these 9s and 11s and

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the Jesuit number is 201 and two towers fall into zero. And then they build one more

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event 201 for the convid pandemic. Once you start to learn these codes, you go,

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okay, I see what these people are doing. And this is also how they talk to each other,

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because do you speak Chinese? Can you read Chinese? Me neither, right? So if two people

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wanted to talk right in front of us without us knowing they would write Chinese or speak Chinese,

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that's what they do. They speak in numbers and all these news articles to each other.

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You'll notice they're obsessed with telling you the shooter's age or his name's weird and

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doesn't sound right or what time exactly this happened. You're like, oh, not 920, a roughly

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920, it's 921. You'll start to see they're talking to each other in number codes right in our face

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over the daily news stories, sports scores, and we can't see it. Might as well be Chinese.

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So that's one of the main things I would tell people is start to get into this. Once you do,

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you don't need to follow the daily events and encode them all out. You start to see it's

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all BS. And that's when you unplug from the matrix. You don't care about the news story anymore. You

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know, oh my God, they did this and you're like, oh my God, they released the Epstein files. You're

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like, yeah, you know, you're like, I get it. It's totally that's on purpose. They want you

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to see the Epstein files. They want you to see them redacted. They want you to think your

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entire government is a bunch of loser inept incompetent people because they want to

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bring in what the AI government, they want the technocracy in. So now they, you know, all of us

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conspiracy theorists have been telling everyone for 20 years or 50 years, everyone in government's

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corrupt and evil. Now the corrupt and evil government media tell you they are and everyone's

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like, oh, okay, you know, you're like, well, why do they want you to see it now after they

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trolled us for 20 or 50 years? How come they're suddenly saying what we've been saying?

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Yeah, it's now like you're talking about they're ready for the switch. So

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problem reaction solution, right? A Gaelian dialectic. They, the problem is they put in all

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these corrupt seeming people. Now they show us they're corrupt and now we want them to get rid

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of them. And what do they get? And they're going to offer us the replacement, which,

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as you said, is this AI technocracy. Yeah, very interesting. Yeah, I've thought about

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that a lot, you know, just how they've, because what I've understood with the algorithm, how they show

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you things is people say, oh, I'm breaking out of the matrix. And then at the same time,

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they're in front of everyone's screen in the world that, you know, it doesn't add up. And

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what basically whatever they show you is something that you, you know, they're

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showing you on purpose. And so I've been wondering a lot. Why are they showing

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so much, you know, corruption? And I think it's because they're kind of ushering us to the

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next stage, which is, it is crazy. But yeah. Yeah, they're ready for us to see the corruption.

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The reason they trolled us, you know, us old OG truthers before is because there wasn't enough

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of it in place yet where they were ready to make the switch. And maybe the

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technocracy, the AI, the technology might not have been ready 20 years ago or 15 years ago.

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So they had to, they have to keep it under wraps. It's the same. So you're in Budapest.

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So they've been letting all these immigrants in from all over, you know, these

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ruining France and Sweden. And they're all young men of fighting age and this and that. And

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we're like, oh my God, they're flooding. They're flooding. Well, see, we think,

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we think, oh, they're going to do like an Islamic takeover in our countries. No, no, no, no.

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This is the problem reaction solution. They're letting these people in,

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then these wars they're doing right now, all this shit they're bombing right now is going to piss

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all these Islamic people off so that they want to do their Jihad, Fatwa, Fatma, whatever the hell

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they do. Then they're going to start attacking us, but they want them gone too. So that's going to

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give them the solution to bring in their NATO armies and wipe out these guys that they brought

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in. We're afraid of these young Islamic fighting people are going to take us over.

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That's not the plan. The plan is they want us, they want them to start fucking with us so they can

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come in and we'll beg them to come in and kill them. And then we'll have military on our streets.

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That's the plan. And then come the robot dogs, right? With the guns, it's Robo cops coming

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after that. Well, how do you get Robo dogs on the street? You need a reason. So you bring

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these guys in, then you piss off all their religion like stir up the Hornets Nest,

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and then they come at us and then you've got your reason. That's why they're doing it. See,

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once you can see through the game, you know how they play. You don't get all agitated. You're looking

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a few moves ahead saying, why are you showing us all these immigrants and refugees? Just like

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you said, it's all over the mainstream and alternative. Why? If you see it, they want

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you to see it. The stuff they don't want you to see it. I promise you, you will never

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see it. Yeah. Yeah. So why do you think it works on most people? I mean, what is it that allows them

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to just look at the base layer and not go deeper? Do you think they need some sort of pattern

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interrupts that most people don't have? I mean, like the Lord Alfred Milner Society,

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Bertrand Russell, these people who set up the Royal Institute of International Affairs,

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which later became in America, the Council of Foreign Relations, right? They said in

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their own document years ago, they just said that 80% of people can't think for themselves.

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They're like robots. They said these people think that we need to be controlled like a

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farm in a herd because they say, well, these people can't think for ourselves. Henry Kissinger

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said 20 years ago, he said, in 20, 30 years, people will be welcoming UN troops on the streets

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of Los Angeles. Well, why would he say that unless they were planning on doing it? The joke is

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the reason 80% of people can't think is because these same scumbags relatives in secret societies

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have set up our schools and education programs so that we can't think. So that's them.

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They're like, oh, you're all stupid. It's like, yeah, but you guys are the ones who made us

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all stupid. So you can't use that we're all stupid as an excuse that you need to control

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us. That's all is set up too as well. Yeah, absolutely. You know, but I mean, I don't think

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people are there's a lot more people awake. I think a lot of the propaganda is that we think

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we're all each other are stupid and I just don't think that's true. I know a lot of people who are

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anything but stupid. Yeah, me too. No, definitely, definitely. So what about those red herrings?

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Because I know you said that some of the some of the paths you went down just kind of were

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designed to lead you down, I guess, of red herring. What were some of those?

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I mean, there's so many but you know, the the Nibiru is going to crash into us in 2012 and the

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alien moon matrix and the alien invasion and it just goes on and on or the the the demonic

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Archons. Now the Archons are actually the seven planets. I'm getting into this in my new movie.

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The old the old Druetics, they knew that astrology is real that the planets have certain

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effects and aspects on us. But there's all these we're being reptilians. There's another

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we're being ruled by interdimensional reptilians and none of them have an address and you can't

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see them. Isn't that convenient? The boogeyman, you can't find him or prove he's even there.

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So you're walking around talking about that shit when the real people,

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you know, behind the royal families and in all these institutes and all of the Black

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nobility, they have names and addresses. They're not out and they're not lizard people flying

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around in outer space. They have names and addresses. That's another one when you get

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into a flat earth and the earth cosmology and start taking a look at the ground and

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saying, hang on man, this whole place is not where we're at. That's another one.

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You start going, shit man. So that's what the red herrings are there for, to keep you

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endlessly researching a thing that has no end. You'll never get to the bottom of

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because it usually has some kind of unprovable hypothetical boogeyman. You know, it's like

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flying unicorns are the reason, you know, like you can spend your whole life looking for a

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flying unicorn. You're not going to find it. So that is how they dig these holes.

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They don't mind. They owe the Jews, the Rothschilds, the other Cazarians, the Cazarians, they want you

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looking at all this crap and you'll never get to the bottom of it. And meanwhile life goes on,

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life goes on, the agenda pushes on and on and on. That's what they do and it's still really

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hard to liberate yourself. So for me, it's more, it's like not getting attached to it.

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I think we need to get back to like, unless you're in politics, we're going to be in politics or

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are going to do something, if you're not going to do something about anything,

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you are totally retarded to sit around wasting all your time thinking about it,

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spending energy on it, doing it, if you're not going to do anything. It's good to know.

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I'm not saying we should all be like dummies and not know what's going on,

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but don't spend all your time on it. I watch like UK column or 21st century news,

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my friend Pat Henningson. I'll watch their news shows once a week. I'll spend an hour and just say,

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let me catch up on the basics of what's going on. So I'm not totally clueless,

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but I'm not going to sit here all week talking about the story of the day because I know it's

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all faked by the numbers anyway. So there's so many people are going to talk about Iran

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till the next thing. And they had just found out Donald Trump was banging kids and his kid and

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suddenly it's like, oh, we're at war. No one's talking about that anymore.

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And then the next one, you remember, remember when they said,

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I think when Trump was up for first election, remember they said there was this army of

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immigrants marching from South America to Mexico and they were going to be at the U.S. border.

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Remember, they were showing it and then he gets elected. Suddenly they don't say a word about it.

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You're like, where did they go? Did they evaporate into the ether? Like, remember,

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it was a huge story for three weeks. Immigrants would come and the immigrants would come.

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Well, then all of a sudden he gets elected. They just vanished into thin air. No,

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this is just how they do it. They run these stories. And then when the next one comes

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along, you get sucked into the emotional drama. This is mind control. It's always

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emotional drama. And, you know, like Jason Kristoff showed, you will repeat what you see or do.

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I think Jason said, whatever they show you, what they show you on the screen at lunch

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will be out on the streets by dinner. I think he said something like that. And that's true.

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Our minds go where they want us to. The best thing I think everyone could do is turn off the

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TV, turn off the internet for a few hours a day, go play some card games with your son,

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go do something, cook some dinner, have a family chat, play some games. I think if we all had a

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little bit more of that personal connection, we wouldn't be going. We only go along with this

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because they need our energy. Like I said, transhumanism is an energetic system. Do you ever get

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into like Mark Passio on the Latin Trivium? Have you ever studied the Trivium?

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Not deeply. I know of them, but I haven't looked into it personally.

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Basically, the Trivium is this. It's an old thing that shows what you think is reality or you

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take the information that you think is real. And then the next layer is how you process that

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or what you think about that information. And the next layer is wisdom. It's how you behave

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based on that. So like a real basic form of that mind control was Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.

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That's the information. Then they come on the TV and keep saying it, saying it over and over,

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and you believe that because you don't know if Iraq has them or not or whatever. That's just

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some information. Then they keep making you believe it. So now you believe it. Now you

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either join the army and blow up Iraq or you don't go out and stop your government from

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going and blowing up Iraq because you believe they have it and that he's going to gas curds and

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like this. So they've taken this bullshit information. They've made you think one way about it.

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Now, to reverse that, you just take the bottom Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.

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The next layer is they're going and you go, no, they don't show me proof. You have

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shown me no proof. I have seen no one boots on the ground. Therefore, I'm not going to allow

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you to do this. That's how you do it. It's the second layer is questioning. Is the first layer

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even true or not? Right? And this is how they run their con on us as they give us the news,

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gives us disinformation. Then they repeat it and repeat it to make you believe that's true

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without even questioning it. And then you will behave how they want you to because the

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wisdom comes from your behavior. So that's how they control us. They want, if they control

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what information we have and what we think about it, then we will act how they want us to.

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That's how they play the game. It's pretty simple and genius.

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Yeah. So how do you say people can break out of it? I mean, do you think being skeptical

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that second layer just questioning it is enough because in a way, if you think about

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just saying no to something that's still being reactionary to it. So is it like

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intuition or kind of detachment or what would you say is the way to break out of that?

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Well, man, if I knew the answer to that, we'd all be, we would be in the shit.

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Some things I would say is yes. Again, are you going to do something about it,

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which is the top layer wisdom? So if you are about to take action on some belief,

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first of all, take a look at the action, think about the consequences or what's going

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to happen or who's going to benefit from your action. But then if you are going to take

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the action, definitely spend some time going two layers down and researching is that information

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true? Is there proof Iraq has weapons of mass destruction or blah, blah, blah? You know what

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I mean? I'm about to act on this. The Chinese are invading. If you're going to do something,

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then make sure that you have solid information. So that means you have to turn off Netflix and

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spend some time doing research and you can't be like a lazy. This is one thing I hate about

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the truth community. And I am one of them in trying very hard not to be that we are the

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worst researchers ever. We think like, Oh, well, if it's on TV, it's obvious to lie. But then

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it's on Alex Jones or Reddit or, you know, above top secret must be true. And you're like,

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no, no, no, they've already got the counter narratives going to that's not you have to

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really dig five layers out to see like, when does this BSN and the truth start if you can find it?

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You've got to really have due diligence. That's another thing I would say to people is like,

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you know, if you're going to get into something really do your homework for real, like stop turning

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in D minus assignments, you know what I mean? Like, you need an A plus assignment. Like,

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it's because as you know, with the AI and stuff, you aren't going to be able to tell

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what's you can tell AI now because usually like the camera, you have to stop looking at what

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you're looking at and look at who's filming this and standing right there in front of a tiger and

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a stick, you know, like, or this guy, nobody would really be standing there doing this perfectly.

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That's you have to get outside of the screen and come to the other side. But like, like,

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you know, AI is going to figure that out soon enough. And it's going to start

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saying, oh, it's probably learning that from me right now. It's probably going, oh, good point.

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So it'll even start to look like a real people filmed it and the music's going to get better.

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So we're not going to be able to trust a damn thing soon enough. You know, I'm preaching

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to the choir. Probably this is your field. Yep, absolutely. And I think it kind of

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requires us to tap into intuition, inspiration. And I think we have to be very careful of

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where we put our attention to, like you mentioned earlier, I think a lot of people

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use this politics as either like kind of like a supplement to television. It's like a drama.

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And they don't ever have an intent to act on it. And so I think you have to be honest with

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yourself. Okay, why am I consuming this if it's going to have no impact on my life? Or if it

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does, you know, maybe I need to start on that top layer, like you're talking about what

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action do I want to take? And then how do I act with intent on it? Dude, you're so on

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the money because television is a drama. It's all politics. It's a TV show. It's a circus act.

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It's bread and circus. It's a total act and you're right. This is another thing when you're

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watching even the news, you'll notice in the background, if you watch like even Alex Jones,

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but like mainstream news, you'll see a light slowly getting brighter and softer behind them

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brighter. And you'll see spinning like a BBC, there's a spinning logo. These are my these are

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hypnotist tricks. These they're putting you in a trance. It's also music. When you start seeing

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them putting production pieces, start listening. Is there like music put to that to like agitate

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you or make you sad or whatever like, you know, start watching that you need to stop paying

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attention to what you're seeing and start zooming out at the whole picture and going,

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what's going on here with this total production and how much went into this? And it's the emotion

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like you're saying, that's usually where they can get you to make a reaction. Like you asked me,

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well, aren't you still reacting? Right? That was a great, great point. You said,

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when they can get you emotional in your lower emotions and you can't get control of your

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higher rational thinking, that's what the Baphomet is. He's got his one hand pointed

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up at Venus and one at the other. He's saying, are you going to be in your higher mind and think

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about stuff? Are you going to be controlled by your lower emotional aspect? Not that you shouldn't

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have emotions, but you the reason you have a higher mind is to check that because we all know

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why do they call it crimes of passion? You can get off for a murder because they know like,

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okay, you were you were so upset what she did here. He did that. You just didn't think

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straight, man. You killed him and now you're sorry. We believe it. So that's what they're doing.

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They're trying to get you in these excited moments where you will then act out of fear

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and reaction. It's fear based, fear based mind control. Basically, yeah, you've totally nailed it.

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So I'm not telling people don't get emotional. Like, you don't, you don't want to be a sociopath.

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Like you should get upset that children are being bombed in Gaza. Like that should piss

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you off, but you don't have to be a psychopath about it and then go out and kill the next Jew.

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You see, you know what I mean? Like there's a, there's a level of easy bro. Yeah, I was actually

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going to ask you about that. And the next question is like, how do we find the balance

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point? Because I think if you look at everything, you know, they talk about how modern food is

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poison or, you know, you get really introspective about, okay, maybe this I'm listening to some

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super heavy music all the time, maybe I should try to lighten up. And then you get into the stage

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where you're just constantly thinking about stuff. And then again, you're kind of not living in the

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moment. So how do you find the balance point between not being manipulated, but also being aware?

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Amazing question, man. That's a really good question. And I would say that you've actually

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answered it. First of all, you have to ask yourself, what is consciousness? What is a lot

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of people talk about consciousness? And then you ask them, can you define consciousness for me? And

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they go, no. Right? Have you ever thought about the definition of consciousness? My definition

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of consciousness is being aware of being aware. So in other words, you answered the question,

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if you stop looking at all the shit around you and sometimes turn back and look at how

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you're interacting with it and thinking about it and behaving about it, look at yourself,

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turn the eye back into you. People be like, he's an Illuminati. That's how you become aware,

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just like you said. How are you going to say, you know what? I've been listening to like too

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much heavy music. I need a break. Well, you're only going to do that if you start looking at

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your behavior and going, hang on. Instead of listening to all the heavy music, you turn

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around and go, hold on, man. How come I'm sitting here listening to all this heavy

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music? You've turned the attention from the music to you. That is the way out of it to

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start being more present, meaning being present, watching your own thoughts and behaviors.

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That's totally how you get out of this. Because in the end, this is one thing you

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learn in the occult, you know, and this is you are only responsible for you and everyone around

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you, your actions, you are not responsible for bombing Iran and the new world order and

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transhumanism. You're responsible for you and how you interact with the world around you.

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That's it. You don't. You might want to help everybody. You know, as all the nurses are

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not nurses. What do you call them? What do they call them? Empaths. You know, I'm an empath.

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You know, it's like, no, you're not. You're a nosy person who can't keep your

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nose out of everyone's business and just take care of yours. That's what you are.

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You're getting sad over shit. You have no control over it. You have no job to do.

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So stop. But it's not to say you shouldn't have empathy or sympathy. It's to say, like,

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you can only control yourself and your realm around you. And so being conscious,

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being aware of being aware or taking a look at your actions and your thoughts.

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Is this making me angry? Am I constantly angry? Like, okay, yeah, I'm angry that they're

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doing this to Gaza. It's pissing me off. Am I then walking into the kitchen at my family dinner

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and taking that out on my family and bog Jones and I'm all like, what the fuck don't you care

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about what's happening in Gaza? You know, and these families are fighting. You like

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Donald Trump and you've got families like fighting over who's left and right in politics

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and stuff. That's crazy, man. So the way to stop that is to look at yourself and go,

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am I making our family better by starting an argument with my spouse every time

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the politics comes up? Then why am I doing that? That's the only good answer I have.

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No, I think that's a great answer. I think it's great. Yeah. Well, awesome. I've really enjoyed

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all of this. Is there anything else you want to talk about quickly before you go or?

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Well, yeah, well, people who don't know me because we didn't even do an intro. So I'm

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Steve Faulkner from Space Busters. You can find our channels. We have a YouTube channel

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Bitshoot, Odyssey, Rumble and Vigilante TV. I don't know if I miss one. I'm also an author.

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I have children's books out that people can get on Amazon. One's called The Dukes of Dents and

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the other is The Goons Laser Balloons. They're very kind of like Dr. Seuss. So this one teaches

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about agenda 2130 where they were burning cities with the dues to try to put in the railroad

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track. So this one has a town called The Toons and the Goons want their fine land and wine plums

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and they burn the city at night and one little girl sees it. But at the town hall meeting,

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no one believes her. So she's like trying to tell them, all these laser balloons came and

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they're like, get out of here. Laser balloons aren't real. So there's always like a moral and

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an ethic to the stories. And this one's about these two guys, kind of like Rothschild types

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or scenie types. They run this town and they control them all with rules and laws and everything.

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It kind of shows the kids how it gets done and how these people can control everything.

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And then in the end of this, the kids catch on to them and kick them out. So I like to give

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some hope and also make children think because I think that's another lot of our problem is

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we treat our children like they're retarded up until they're age four, like would you like a book?

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The Jesuit said, give us a child till they're seven and they'll be a Jesuit for life. So

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my strategy is we need to start treating children like intelligent beings and then they will stop

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growing up to be these 80% of useless babies that these think tanks think we all are.

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Well, I would say if you treat your kids in their formative years like morons,

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you shouldn't be shocked they grow up to be morons. And you get these books on Amazon.

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Yeah, that's pretty much it. Eric, thanks for reaching out. Did you find me through the

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Baileys, was it? Or? Yep, yep. Oh, did you? Who'd you have on Mark and Mark? I had both of

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them on, yeah. Oh, they're really great. Yeah, I've been friends with them a long time.

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Mark and I did a three movie series to his farewell to virology paper. So I did like a seven hours

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worth of movies with him making it because most people can't read a paper like that. It's scientifically

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just like, it's amazing. So I took on the nearly impossible task of making that into a movie

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version that was interesting. And that that series, people can find that anyway. But yeah,

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thanks so much for reaching out, man. Yeah, thank you. Now I'll get into your work more too,

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because you guys are new to me. Yeah, definitely. I'd love to stay in touch and I'll let you know if

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I'm ever in Copenhagen. I've been wanting to go out there. So it'd be cool. Oh, yeah. You know,

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I've never been to Budapest. So yeah, let me know if you're in town. It'd be great. I would

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love to, man. Yeah, yeah, great. Awesome. All right.

