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All right. So it has been over two years since we last spoke to our guest today.
He is a true OG in the truth Liberty Sphere.
He started his journey into this world as a corporate whistleblower,
but he narrowly avoided being in the World Trade Center on 9-11 during the attack
where he worked at the time thanks to a traffic jam,
which is an extremely crazy story that we actually touched on in our last episode with him.
Now, he's also a filmmaker, a historian and a world-class researcher.
So, Richard, thanks for joining us today and welcome back to the Free Thought Project podcast, my friend.
Jason, thank you for the invite.
Don and Matt, how are you guys doing?
It's a pleasure to be here. Thanks for the opportunity to opine.
Yeah, absolutely, brother.
Well, we've been looking forward to it.
And one of the reasons I wanted to have you back on is you have a really vast knowledge base.
You're an amazing researcher.
You've been talking about many of these issues and topics for decades now.
And who better really to have on the show to close out the final episode of the year?
Now, you're also the founder of autonomy, which is an extremely successful online course
and mentorship program that teaches real-world skills, critical thinking
and helps connect people who want to live outside these centralized systems.
And I'm hopeful that we could discuss that some more at some point in this conversation
because it is a huge white pill for our movement.
But I also wanted to talk about a couple current issues
and perhaps maybe near the end, we could get into a Liberty Movement report card.
But I did want to start with what's happening right now because it's just so fresh.
We're seeing a military buildup off the coast of Venezuela.
We're seeing these extrajudicial strikes on fishing boats.
Or at least we think they're fishing boats or maybe they're drug boats.
We don't really know because they're not giving us any evidence, right?
And just yesterday, the US seized a Venezuelan oil tanker.
So this feels a lot less like foreign policy and more like just outright piracy.
Now, as somebody who did witness 9-11 firsthand,
you saw how that moment was used to launch a new war that shaped two decades of policy.
So I was wondering, do you see parallels here?
Is this just the beginning of another manufactured narrative to justify another intervention?
And if so, what does that mean for the trajectory of the US?
And those of us trying to resist the surveillance state, the police state,
I mean, these things always seem to grow alongside these wars.
So yeah, what are your thoughts on this?
Well, to be direct, the answer is yes.
And to follow up on that, I would say American foreign policy is never determined
by the activity going on at present.
It has always been predetermined for like the past 120 years.
So when you see something like Venezuela, we are not reacting to a situation.
We are enacting a situation.
We would like their oil.
They have more oil than any place on the earth.
And when I say we, not the American citizens,
but the transnationalists, especially the transnationalist corporations
and other groups that influence our government from top down
and have used it for the past 125 years as a type of prophylactic
so that they can go around accessing the wealth while simultaneously eroding
America's reputation and driving morality.
Like they're demoralizing Americans so that people won't want to fight
and defend their country anymore.
It's a perfect way to bring about a new world order.
You have to first, you can't just directly attack the borders with immigration.
You have to, you know, stir it up from within.
Create a civil war type of situation where everybody's at everybody else
and nobody's actually looking at the people caused them the problems
or orchestrating such maneuvers.
The seizing of an oil tanker is very provocative.
The fact that the United States has any foreign policy going on with Venezuela
is kind of like all of the sudden, like it hasn't been a traditional thing.
We've heard about Russia and China and other countries for decades and decades.
And you know, the surveillance state, it's not like Venezuela is driving such things.
It makes me wonder, is Venezuela, did they have a central bank yet?
Because this is usually the sales process, how they get places to take on central banking.
Gaddafi, for instance, is, you know, Libby is not that different,
much different in foreign policy activities than Venezuela.
What did Libya do?
Gaddafi, first, he sent his child to be educated by the people who were later to kill him.
So when Gaddafi meets his end, his kid is actually being taught in Britain by Joseph Nye,
the super neocon world strategist, not necessarily neocon,
but a new world order strategist from the Anglo-American establishment.
So even though Gaddafi was trying to spread the wealth around his country
and make it the highest living standard in Africa and so on and so forth, you know,
we came, he saw, he died, whatever her butchering of Shakespeare's Caesar quote, right?
Yeah, we came, we saw, he died, I don't know, I forget.
I'm not supposed to remember her quotes.
I remember the real quotes from which she butchered it, right?
But the idea of extrajudicial murder, fire from the sky,
no judge, Jerry Executioner except the drone and the drone commander
or whatever they're using, F, you know, F 22s or whatever they're using these days
to blow things up.
Now, the question is, like logic and reason dictate, we have to study reality
from things that exist.
So something existed and it got blown up.
What is the something?
Do we have any evidence?
People say it's a fishing boat.
I would observe from, I did, I've looked at this 30 seconds of the footage,
right?
But I don't know, it's going kind of fast for a fishing boat.
Now, if it's not a fishing boat, doesn't, even if it's a powerboat,
like we saw back in the day on Miami Vice, let's say it's a speedboat.
It goes 200 miles an hour and it's full of fentanyl and cocaine.
Is it still proper to fire from the sky, destroy it, blow it up like that?
Is that the best we can do as Americans?
I don't know.
Maybe we could do better.
Now, let's say it's a fishing boat.
And let's say we mistook it for a drug boat and let's say we went back
and double tapped it so that the survivors couldn't tell their tale.
I'd say, hmm, that's, that's mighty different.
That's almost like a USS Liberty situation where you're trying to
prevent the people from actually telling the story afterwards of the attack.
So there are certain resonances in history that come up with a story
like this, but I see none of them as favorable or honorable or matching the
integrity, the gusto and the salt of the earth nature of the average American citizen.
Yeah, especially when Trump has really positioned himself as this law
and order president, right?
I mean, I think that's the part that really upsets me the most.
And of course, there's an argument to be made about international law.
Are these international waters?
I mean, obviously the Constitution applies to the U.S.
So, you know, there is some debate there.
I get that, but it does feel very much like the same old playbook,
right?
I mean, one decade, the U.S. government's guarding the Afghan poppy fields,
you know, and fueling the worst opioid crisis in history.
Now they're vaporizing these boats and insisting it's for our safety, right?
Because we're having these drug crises in the U.S.,
whether it be fentanyl or whatever.
And there's just so many problems with this, right?
I mean, first of all, we can't even stop drugs coming into prisons
in this country, right?
I mean, I think that's a pretty apt analogy that I think
that's pretty poignant position to point at,
because I mean, look, are we really going to play a world police?
Are we really going to just say, like, anybody we suspect of trafficking drugs
are now potentially open to receiving these, you know, strikes, these drone strikes?
Trump already said that that is the case.
He said that it isn't just Venezuela, specifically, you know,
that anybody who's bringing drugs into our country
can be essentially vaporized by these strikes.
So, and the problem with this that makes me the most upset is that,
hey, look, we've already been through this before,
like I was already kind of hinting at, right?
And I know you watched this, Richard.
I know all of us watched this in real time when it was happening during the war on terror.
This is just a lame excuse once again to, yeah,
potentially invade, occupy, create another forever war in Venezuela.
I mean, it's no secret that they have the largest amount of oil reserves.
So there is something going on here.
Unfortunately, all the people that, you know, seemed at one point to understand this,
the same people who are calling for Donald Trump to be an anti-war peace president
and saying that they're tired of the Afghan war,
the tired of the Middle East occupations are now turning a blind eye
and they're the same people who are actually supporting these policies
and this oil tanker that was just seized.
I've even seen a lot of people sharing fake images
of these drug boats that were from years and years ago
that the right has gotten a hold of now and they're starting to meme.
They're starting to point out as being the definitive proof
saying, well, where are these fishing poles?
It doesn't look like a fishing boat to me.
It looks a lot like a drug boat.
Well, the problem is that, yeah, we've all known that these countries
Central and South America are doing some type of illicit drug trade, right?
But if we're going to say it's specifically fentanyl coming from Venezuela,
well, we should probably be proving that, right?
We know that cocaine comes from Venezuela
and as Rand Paul pointed out, you know, there is no fentanyl being made in Venezuela,
not just a little bit, none.
He also mentioned that in order for these boats to get to Miami,
they'd have to refuel 20 times.
I think that's a pretty accurate assessment.
I think that we need the proof.
We need the evidence.
And I don't know, to me, I'm just really perplexed and dismayed
that once again, it's this tribalistic type of mentality
where it's like, well, it's our guy doing it.
I mean, it's really no different from the George W. Bush year.
So, like, what do you think is the problem here?
Like, if MAGA is, you know, a movement that was supposed to be anti-war,
why are they so adamant about, you know,
supporting this, defending this and justifying this
now that Trump's doing it?
Well, because there's a group of well-meaning people in this country
who wanted to see greatness rise in everybody,
every color, creed, religion, and race.
Make America great again, right?
That whole idea.
But then it got attached to an ill foreign and domestic agenda.
And, you know, politicians are going to politician.
I don't know when people are going to figure it out.
They could vote harder.
There's a lot of things they could do,
but I'm just saying we can do better
and we're not going to do better doing the same thing
we've always done.
Here's what we've always done.
I did a presentation a couple years back for Ed Griffin
and it was called the Underground History of America.
And what it showed is alongside our great country's
industrial growth and the hard work of the people,
there was also a lot of corrupt people
at the very top in the Eastern establishment
who made their money from the opium trade
that the British had monopolized.
And in 1832, the British privatized the opium trade.
This is where 1832 skull and bones at Yale comes from
because they get in on it.
This is where the Americans get back in with the empire
for real because they're on the opium trafficking side.
Now, in the 1800s after we defeated the British
at the Battle of New Orleans in 1814, Andrew Jackson,
the British went off and they played around the world.
They played with India.
They played with China.
They subjugated billions of people.
And then they came back economically for America.
So by the mid 1800s, the British had a first,
second and third Anglo-Afghan war for control
of the opium poppy territory.
And they used this to subjugate China
in what was called the Century of Humiliation.
Now this went on in this massive narco-terrorism drug
trafficking and slavery operation, morphed
and took on its American cousin as partnership in it.
So now America gets into,
and America kind of always had been in the opium trade
because the Eastern establishment families,
the Delanoes from where FDR comes from,
there's a whole bunch of families.
The Boston Brahmins were all up in at the Cabots, the Asters.
There's all sorts of famous history about their ship manifests
coming back with opium in exchange refers.
So now you get up to like the year 1900.
There's a lot of America has just gotten in bed
with the British Empire.
Kipling gave us the white man's burden poem
and the racist imagery that came along with it
and said, you got to get over here in this Spanish-American war
and help us out.
And that's how it became the Spanish-American war
because we got into it.
So you got to remember the main,
and now we are nation-building.
We are expressing freedom around the planet
with our good British cousins.
We're creating an English-speaking world
and we're going to dominate the planet.
And there was a guy who was really good
at helping them out.
His name was Major General Smedley Butler.
He won the Congressional Medal of Honor twice.
He won the Marine Corps Brevet Medal.
He was asked to perform a coup against the FDR government
because they weren't fascist enough so we could go harder.
And he said, no.
And in his famous book, War is a Racket,
he elucidated that he had always been a thug
for the ruling class to take over countries.
And he named countries like Honduras
and Nicaragua and these other places.
Now, if you fast forward just for a second,
back up into recent history, Trump just pardoned.
I think it was the president of Nicaragua
who was a drug trafficking kingpin.
He was in prison for drugs.
Now, whether he was framed by the other political side,
I don't know, but Trump has a zero tolerance policy
with Venezuela and that he just pardoned
some guy who runs a country right next to Venezuela
that is a total drug.
So anyway, I want to bring it past Smedley Butler
because there is a point.
Smedley Butler told us the war is a racket
and the rich people were using our military
to do things in their name.
That's how United Fruit and Dole
and all these other places took over
and that's how you have bananas in your kitchen.
But if we go up to the 1980s, right after Iran-Contra,
there was a situation.
There was a situation where Enrique Kiki Camarena
was working for the United States Drug Enforcement Agency
and he's down in the Mexican consulate
and he gets kidnapped from inside,
like outside the consulate.
He's right outside, they kidnap him, they interrogate him,
they torture him and they murder him and they recorded it.
Now by they, we'll get into that in a second,
but this is a situation where Kiki had found out
about U.S. military and governmental policies
working with the cartels, okay?
A couple years ago, I interviewed a whistleblower
on this situation, it was 2016.
His name was Philip, I'm sorry, Hector Bereas.
Hector Bereas.
Hector was the all-star undercover agent for the DEA.
He infiltrated the Silinoa Cartel, the Medellin Cartel,
the Cali Cartel, the Guadalajara Cartel
as an undercover agent.
This dude is a wolf.
When we were in the room interviewing this guy,
I felt in danger because this is not a sheepdog.
This is not a dog.
This is a wolf.
We're in the room with a wolf
and he's telling the stories about being a wolf.
A couple blocks away while he's telling us stories
about El Chapo.
El Chapo Guzman is a couple blocks away in New York City
and I'm like, pro, I know he has people in this hotel
and they're probably outside this door listening
to these stories.
We're all going to get killed.
We get out of that room and I'm like,
we have to write this down.
This is a crazy story he's telling.
So we wrote a treatise, like a three-season narrative arc
for a series called Kilos.
It was supposed to be a follow-up for Narcos.
We pitched it to Netflix.
Hector and my partner, John,
went to Netflix in L.A.
They pitched the whole story
about the Kiki Camarena murder,
about this cover-up of U.S. drug-running
and the killing of its own people to cover it up.
And Netflix said,
no, thank you.
And what Netflix did is they made a series
called Narcos, Mexico,
based on the CIA's view of Kiki Camarena.
Now, my buddy John was Hector's manager,
so he kept shopping and around.
Finally, they got hooked up with Tiller Russell
over at Amazon
and the film series is called The Last Narc, N-A-R-C.
If you watch that, Hector Bereyes,
the whistleblower that the government then said,
we think you did it, Hector.
And he had to go on the run for, like, 20, 30 years.
He comes back with the guys who kidnapped Kiki Camarena.
They were Mexican federally state police guys
that delivered them to American military
and political people who, again, are on tape
because they taped the interrogation.
And Hector has heard the tapes because he was the top investigator
of Operation Leenda looking into the unsolved death of Kiki Camarena.
So when you follow it all back through,
there are names of people still alive today
that killed people in our own government
to cover up the multi-decade narco drug trafficking
that is behind why America was in Afghanistan
for 20 years after 9-11,
making sure that, you know, the illicit trade,
which has now been kind of usurped by the fentanyl trade,
which brings it back to Venezuela,
there's a long, interesting history to all of these things.
And most people are not going to get that
on the Sean Hannity, CNN type of universe out there.
You have to get outside the official narrative
and actually look at the evidence and artifacts,
and that's what I've done for the past 20 years.
Hell, yeah, man.
I mean, we've seen this play out over and over again.
This is how the CIA funds all their covert operations
with the drug trade that they control across the planet, right?
No one can get a plane into the United States
unless they're cleared to fly that plane in.
That plane's not just going to be able to fly in here.
They let that damn plane in, man.
So we got to go see an oil tanker
from the narco terrorists that were told that they are, right?
And it's important to just always consider
when we look at the actual events of, you know,
CIA coups around the world in the 20th century.
There's a lot.
I ask, which of those coups were we not with MI6?
It's a very short list.
Which of those coups was it not in MI6's foreign policy interest
and we were just there helping or just taking the brunt of it, right?
Really, what the empire needed to do was convince us
that the empire quit and they became a commonwealth
and they were just like us.
And in the meanwhile, America became the property manager
for the British Empire.
In British Empire, they just sit back
and America's like the imperialist on the scene
and we're the ones that, you know, have it on our conscience
to kill a million people in Iraq
after some phony baloney claims of war, right?
So there is a reputation of America and Americans
and it is purposefully being, I would say,
deverticalized, but the proper term that everyone's familiar with
is controlled demolition.
It's a controlled demolition of America and Americanism
and the thought of free people being able to speak their thoughts freely
to practice their religion, to say what they want
and express themselves in various forms of print and media
to be able to defend themselves with deadly force,
defend their families with deadly force.
These are not the usual in human history.
These are very spectacular firework-like events
that have gone on just in the past couple hundred years
and most of human history has been a history
of people being subjugated by people who were very irrational,
totalitarian, tyrannical and bloodthirsty.
Yeah, exactly.
And that's what's so crazy.
We can go back several administrations
and see, like, this has been in action for a long time.
The Obama laid the groundwork for Trump to be able to do this
in Venezuela, what he's doing right now.
He declared a national emergency
because of the country of Venezuela
and it's the same playbook they use over and over and over again
and like the Norco terrorism, like the DEA's own,
I just wrote an article about this
so I'm pretty familiar with everything that's going on
over there right now.
And so the DEA put out a report,
the National Drug Threat Assessment.
It's publicly available and everybody can go and read it
and Venezuela is not even mentioned in the entire report,
not even about cocaine, which they do traffic some cocaine,
right, but the country of Venezuela
is not even mentioned in the report.
The actual pen all comes from China,
the components of it come from China.
Go to Mexico, get put together by the cartels
and then that comes across our southern border.
We know this, this is not a secret, everybody knows that,
but yet the new WMDs are Ohio junkies
dying on the streets, right?
The yellow cake now is fentanyl
and everybody's lapping it up
and they're all like, yeah, we need to go into Venezuela
and do what, like take out Maduro?
Yeah, Maduro's a bad person.
He was not re-elected and he kept power
and he's a dictator and those people need to take him out,
but like we don't need to put US troops
on the ground over there to do that
and every time that we do put US troops
on the ground to overthrow some regime,
that's not in the interest of American people
and yet somehow people keep buying it up
term after term and they buy the same damn story
over and over again so that these people
in Washington DC can do the bidding
of their oligarch friends.
So like my question is, you know, like this,
we have this blatant recycling of the WMD horseshit
and it's the same playbook that we've seen
in the Middle East play out
or seen play out in the Middle East
for the last, you know, five decades.
So do you believe the bipartisan establishment
like despite its rhetorical differences
is like aligned with this strategy
of regime chains for the oligarchs?
Like where the only difference between
a Bush and Obama, a Biden, a Trump
is basically the political packaging
of like a preplanned oil and power grab
because we all know that Venezuela
has the largest oil reserves in the world.
Well, I mean, first off, America has huge oil reserves
and strategically we just don't use them
while we go jack other peoples.
I would also remind the audience
that in the 21st century,
the Iraq oil from that war did not come to America.
That was the rhetoric before
we're going to go get it to get the oil.
But I think that it went to other
maybe Middle East allies.
I don't know where the oil didn't come here.
It's the contracts that Chevron gets
and the BP gets from that, you know,
that doesn't benefit the United States at all.
Well, and Condoleezza Rice worked for Chevron, right?
Harming Karzai worked for Chevron,
who became president of Afghanistan
after the new regime was installed.
So to answer your question,
it is top-down precipitated because they have a...
So it goes back to the first question.
The foreign policy has nothing to do
with what's going on right now.
It has to do with what they're trying to build.
And what you see going on right now
is just like the place where they're breaking ground
for the new construction.
But they're building a global entity.
And so the quickest, easiest summary would be...
There was a book in 1966 titled
Tragedy and Hope, A History of the World of Our Time
by Georgetown professor of Foreign Service, Carol Quigley,
and he was the mentor of Bill Clinton.
Quigley himself was mentored by a Rhodes scholar
named Crane Brinton, and a Rhodes scholar
is a scholarship fund set up by the Rothschild family
in 1901 for Cecil Rhodes,
who was one of their project managers.
What project did he run?
That's a great question.
He went to South Africa, commodified diamonds.
He basically bought the pumps to the mines...
bought pumps because the mines flood.
So he bought all the pumps.
He let the mines flood.
He bought the mines, you know, pennies on a dollar.
Then he controls the farmer to beers, diamond fields.
He also gets into gold mining.
And then they create a colony,
which is the biggest thing you can do as a British citizen
is to go colonize another place on the planet for the crown.
And he is enacting a British Empire agenda.
He's enacting a British Freemason agenda.
He helps to colonize, create the apartheid state of South Africa,
which has an interesting and fascinating history.
But in 1902, when Rhodes died,
he left the last will and testament
to create a secret society based on the Jesuits
but replacing the Catholic universe with the British Empire.
So he's like, these guys have a plan.
Let's apply their plan to our project.
And to do that,
he creates a secret society and a scholarship fund
to ameliorate people from other countries
into the Oxford British Empire agenda for world domination.
So by the time you get into the 20th century,
from 1902 on, you have very much precipitating
in American history the British influence
to get us to forget about why we ever went to war with them
in the first place.
And now we're best friends in a special relationship.
And their GCHQ creates our NSA.
Their MI6 creates our OSS and later CIA.
Our intelligence functionality comes top down
from another country that used to be our enemy.
And then we went and created other countries together
in the Anglo-American establishment relationship
that are also in the news quite often.
So there's a really interesting history
of the real movers and shakers
and you can really see how power works.
But the powers that be censored Quigley's book.
As soon as it was printed, they broke the printing plates
so it couldn't be republished.
They lied to Quigley and said it was out of stock
and there was no one trying to buy it.
And then it became an urban legend,
dare I say a myth for like 40 years.
And only in 2004 did it get republished to the public.
And I was so incredulous.
Most of my learning comes from not believing the claims.
I was incredulous.
There cannot be an influential financial family
of the international variety for multi-generations
called the Rothschilds without me knowing about it.
I have a college degree.
I worked for enterprise software, you know, people
in Wall Street and all the big banks
and all the insurance companies never heard this name.
I would get to Wall Street Journal.
I get Forbes. I get Therans.
I never heard this name.
This is bullshit.
But come to find out page 52.
Carol Quigley is like, hey, there's this international banking family
and they have a lot of influence on funding nations.
Oh, it's fascinating.
Later in like page 960s, like these groups fund the right
and the left, the communists and the capitalists.
They're amalgamating the whole planet into an agenda
with a desired outcome of eroding personal freedom
to control the individual for total slavery.
Like, I think it's very anti-universe, this idea.
I don't think we are created to be slaves eternally.
I think we have some human problems.
And if we work out those human problems,
we can have a really, really fascinating, fruitful future
that is peaceful, not because we took away people's rights
to disagree or to resist, but because people could actually
speak and interact on a level that is higher in consciousness
and humanity and understanding.
Because anytime we have a war,
we have to dehumanize the people over there
so we can go drop those awful, awfully destructive things
that we've created over the years.
The bombing of Nuremberg was not an American ideal,
but the British are like, it's okay if you do that.
It's okay to bomb cities and civilians.
And a couple years later, guess what?
We're bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki with ungodly weapons.
So the biggest weapons dealers in history
of the US and Britain are at the top of that list,
it's a war economy that's been driven since World War I
when you look into how did America get involved
in World War I or World War II.
There is some very disingenuous dishonesty going on
from the British side, getting America as the unwitting
cousin who doesn't know any better to start getting
in bed with some of this stuff.
And the ruling families, the Eastern elite of America,
very much knew what they were doing.
But the honest people were like,
I want to join the service and go defend my country
and make sure my community doesn't get overrun
by communism or something like that.
Those people all got used for an agenda
that they were not read into.
They didn't have informed consent.
There was no transparency.
And that's always proof that the other side knows
what they're doing is wrong
because otherwise they wouldn't lie about it.
Yeah, man.
And it's really interesting.
You mentioned that one of the things
when it comes to giving people the sort of information,
I always like to point people towards a series
of books written by Professor Anthony C. Sutton
called The Wall Street Trilogy because, you know,
like oftentimes to talk about world histories,
particularly like the Bolshevik Revolution,
things of that nature.
And like a lot of people still haven't realized
that the entire rise of communism was funded
by Western capitalists in Wall Street,
basically with the understanding that
because communism is an inherently flawed
economic ideology, once it would collapse
the Eastern Wall, then the capitalists could come in
and buy up everything for pennies on the dollar,
which is exactly what happened after the Soviet Union collapsed.
And it's so interesting like that history of it.
And it's sort of particularly why sometimes
I catch a little bit of grief
from the libertarian community when I criticize capitalism
because I'm an agorist.
Like I'm a full, like full-on free market,
voluntary, you know, voluntary exchange,
like and I essentially view capitalism in practice
as we have it right now is...
Cartel.
It is corporatism, exactly.
And so they're two, it's a false,
the capitalism versus communism thing in my mind
is the same false dichotomy
as like Republican versus Democrat.
They're both shit, you know,
we just have a free market where it's
voluntary free exchange and we're fine.
But to bounce back to something you had mentioned earlier,
I really wanted to get your opinion on this
because I did not know actually that you worked on series
as like a follow-up sequel to Narcos.
That's really cool.
And I remember a couple of years ago,
I saw this show on FX,
you probably know about it, it's called Snowfall.
And I just got into it because I thought it was neat
and I was blown away when spoilers
for anyone who hasn't seen it and wants to see it
you get into the first few episodes
and it starts to tell the story
of how crack cocaine was being brought into
South Central Los Angeles via the CIA
during the whole Iran-Contra thing.
And I was just astonished that a
primetime cable network show
was just like openly telling this sort of truth
and it reminded me that a few years ago,
like 2017, we even covered it here at the Free Thought Project.
There was a documentary that the History Channel
put out as well about that very same thing.
So I wanted to get your perspective
since you worked on a show similar to that.
Why is it, do you think now that certain networks
and like production groups
like Netflix, Amazon, History, whatever
are starting to put out shows
that are actually telling the truth about the fact that
the big drug epidemics were brought in
by the CIA, by our own government
is that they just don't care anymore
and they'll just put the cat out of the bag?
It's kind of getting us to look over the shoulder.
So they feel free a lot of times
to tell you about something they did 30 years ago
but they don't want you to think they're doing it now.
But it's always a sliding window of time, right?
They'll put people under gag orders.
There was a famous whistleblower a couple days ago.
Gag order expired in like May of 2025
and what he's talking about goes back to the tunnels
of El Chapo and the little railroad that they had
and underground, all that stuff.
So let's break it open like this.
Anthony Sutton's trilogy is remarkable
but he wrote a lot of other books
and so I just want to point that out.
He wrote one on the Federal Reserve,
he wrote one on gold,
he wrote prolifically on a bunch of different subjects
but they're all around individual freedom and liberty
and then following your thread through
the capitalism versus communism,
like ever since they gave corporate personhood
you know, Santa Clara County versus Union Pacific Railroad
in 1898, that was a skull and bones chief justice
and it was a misinterpreted case.
So that's a whole mess right there
but that's part of it.
Now you bring in the ideas of
you know, conkin the third and you bring in
an algorithm in the midst of a cartel environment
and then that doesn't play so well either.
So we have the reality which exists,
we have the utopic vision that we want
and we have to not compromise
because thesis plus antithesis
is taking truth, mixing it with shit
and then you have shit in your truth.
That's synthesis.
We want to stick to the thesis.
We just need to involve another
you know, like a larger group of people
in the understanding that these ideas
of the war on drugs
that is still going on today
and it's various other guises, right?
So if they don't learn the history
they can't see how it applies to now.
Now going back to freeway, Rick Ross
and the crack cocaine epidemic
Gary Webb and all that sort of stuff.
I have a friend who's a filmmaker
his name's Kevin Booth
and he made a couple films
American Drug War and American Drug War 2
and American Drug War Part 1
is all about the CIA crack cocaine
and that epidemic being brought into America.
Rick Ross, not the rapper
the actual Rick Ross
he's out there and does interviews
and you know, so that's a fascinating situation.
There's some whistleblowers around it.
I remember Mike Rupert
confronting John Deutch famously
about that whole situation
and John Deutch that is confronted
by Mike Rupert is a co-author
of a 1998 document
for Council on Foreign Relations
with Philip Zellacow
and Ashton Carter who later becomes
Defense Secretary after 9-11.
It's called Catastrophic Terrorism
a new Pearl Harbor is mentioned in there
so are the World Trade Centers
all the things that are in the PNAC report from 2000
are in a November 1998
Council on Foreign Relations issue that I own
and I've shown as an artifact
because this is what breaks people's narratives
when they see artifacts in reality
that contradict their thinking on the story
that's the only way I've found the breakthrough
and that's why I've spent so much time
collecting and showcasing certain artifacts
that show people what they're telling you is a lie
and this is the easiest way out
of learning it
and not suffering the consequences of the lie anymore
Well, I see that your expert historian
knowledge is coming out
Richard, I certainly appreciate that
a little bit of perspective on some of this stuff
We actually talked to James Corbett
I think it was in the beginning of this year
I know he's a friend of yours
and has worked with you to create
autonomy courses and stuff
but we were kind of talking about some of the parallels
as well as far as the mainstream
touching more on some of the 9-11 truths
It does seem like that is a tactic
20 years plus now
and now they share some of this information
and of course, there's a whole new generation now
who's a voting age
who wasn't even alive when 9-11 happened
so I guess they could kind of
peel back the curtain a little bit
and throw us a little bit something to keep us guessing
and we just talked
touched on the drug trafficking there
You mentioned Gary Webb, I just thought briefly
I would also say that yesterday
was actually the 21-year anniversary
that he
supposedly shot himself twice in the head
and committed suicide
Man, that guy has done so much for
truth and his truths
still do resonate to this day
He's probably more of a popular figure
now, an American hero now
than he was in the 90s
when he was reporting on a lot of this stuff
in the early 2000s
but you know, we are heading towards
the end of the podcast now
and I did want to touch on a couple other things
I wanted to shift gears a little bit
to talk about Israel
and the IDF and some work that you've done recently
because I know you and your wife
were involved in helping secure
the release of Muhammad Ibrahim
who is a 16-year-old
US citizen of Palestinian descent
who was unfortunately imprisoned by the IDF
It's certainly a powerful story
but can you maybe walk us through
how you got involved
with all of that, what the process was like
and you know, what it confirmed
about these systems of power
that we've been discussing
Well
to keep it succinct
I covered a story on the Grand Theft World podcast
I think the first week of September
and the story was about
there was two stories actually
it was tragic and it brought me to tears
just playing the two stories
the first story is
16-year-old Florida
US citizen
kidnapped
in the West Bank, not Gaza
he was visiting family in the West Bank
kidnapped by IDF forces in the middle of the night
blindfolded, kidnapped, taken from his parents
held in an adult military prison
famous for torture
that was the second story that we played
I showed people like this is what goes on
at the place they're holding this US citizen
okay
and I
was upset about it
and the next morning I told my wife
we had to cover this story last night
it was really hard to do, it's gut wrenching
like this is an American, he's an American teenager
he's third generation American
he has hundreds of relatives in this country
and he went home to see other relatives
in the West Bank
which has been occupied illegally by Israel since 1967
when they
attacked the USS Liberty to gain
those areas, Gaza
and the West Bank were taken
in 1967, there are legal settlements
in the West Bank declared
since 1967
so this kid, he's an American
he's over there, he gets jacked
I don't hear about it, this happened in January
I don't hear about it until
September, okay
he's been in there
I don't know, whatever, nine months or eight months at that point
and
I think he was 15 when he was taken, he turned 16
while he's in the torturous
situations, so anyway I was very upset
and my wife
likewise was very taken by it
because she's like, you know
we have a nephew, they kind of look alike
you know what I'm saying, our nephew's Italian
but the same age
so it's just that sort of thing
like there's tens of thousands
of children being murdered over there
and that's too much
for people to deal with, but when there's one
and there's one that maybe you can do something about
that's when you try
so my wife said the next morning
I wish I knew somebody that could help
Muhammad, like wow, who do we know
like really, we know a lot of people
but do we know someone that can spring him
out of an Israeli military
prison, the answer is no, so what do you do
when you don't know, you reach out
and ask, so we have a group chat
someplace and there's some people
on there who are
Bitcoin aficionados and people who
like worked with us, you deliberate
Ross Ulbricht earlier this year
these sort of things, right? So the question
went out and somebody came back and said
I know somebody who knows someone in the Trump
administration and the Israeli administration
and I don't know that that went anywhere
or had any effect, but that was like a first
step and then it was like let's
get Muhammad's story in front of
the young Turks or Katie Halper
or any number of outlets that would
embrace the story of an American
being kidnapped and his family
wanting to return
and then my wife talked
to some other friends and there was someone
who was a Twitter influencer with
a larger audience and he said if you just
write up a summary, I will share it, so
I proofread the summary that she read
and that went out and then we got
in touch, well she got in touch with
Muhammad's uncle Zied
who lives in Florida, he's a businessman,
he's an entrepreneur and what
Muhammad and his cousins were doing was
they were running an ice cream shop in Tampa
okay?
So these kids, their dads got together
they bought them a business, they
very much believe in working with family
they got this Dubai chocolate ice cream
it's off the hook dude, they have this amazing business
in Tampa, but while Muhammad
is in prison, his
cousin, Saifallah
from Tampa
is killed
by the Israeli IDF
in a torturous way, I won't even describe it
but it's covered
in the interview that I did with Muhammad's
uncle Zied a couple weeks ago
and so this kid who's held
his older cousin who owns the shop
he's like 19 or whatever, he gets killed
and
he got killed by settlers
he got gang beaten
death type of thing, right? Jesus
so
I'm learning about this, we're getting in touch
and we're talking with Zied and
helping him in any way we can
navigate this very obtuse situation
he's saying, well Mike Huckabee
came to the family and said this
let me tell you what Mike Huckabee
and what he's all about
and so I just wanted them to have
realistic expectations
and there were some favorable
things that happened, like Marco Rubio
is the Secretary of State, he should be
getting an American citizen back to Florida
except Larry Ellison
handpicked Marco Rubio
because he's a friend of Israel back in 2014
for this whole thing
you can't go to the people who already got
to get your people out
so then you have to like get some press
coverage and that puts a little
heat on the situation and
they gave him the run around
and I think what the Israelis were doing was
they knew this was a difficult situation
that they did not want to deal with
they did not want this type of publicity
because it could really blow up so once
it was noted that this is not just any kid
they started to give him IVs
and food and fatten them up because he had
scabies, like his skin was being eaten
by these parasites and the privilege
it was fucking awful dude
so Muhammad is now home
with his family as of about
a week ago and
the precedent set to release Muhammad
was used to release the other three kids
because it was a collective punishment situation
and they were trying to lean on all the kids to
rat out one of the other ones and
that is a very very harsh
teenage upbringing but
when you get into like what happened to his cousin
Sefala, like they're lucky
to still be alive and come home and see their families
and live to tell about it so
a lot of people involved in that
success story that was just
like you know my small
part in it with my wife about like bringing
a little attention to kind of like
blow the cinder you know there's
a little spark and you make it into a little bit more of
a fire and we were just trying to help
put that together so that kid could come home
well great work man and even though
they did I didn't hear that they tried to fatten him up
he still came out like you know double digit
weight loss with scabies still
yeah you see when he's released
he's got an IV in his arm and stuff like that
so I think they did say
we can't release him in this situation he was in
so they had to
and let's tell our listeners what he was
actually allegedly in jail for
throwing rocks at tanks
allegedly
yes right well not even at tanks I think it was
allegedly throwing rocks at settlers
and they didn't like he wasn't even accused
of throwing rocks he was just with the kids
who were accused of throwing the rocks
throwing rocks and they were trying to
get them to roll and you know it's famous
for years palestinian kids throwing
rocks at tanks and stuff like that and being shot
and this has been going on for decades
right and my
my personal part was I
told my audience I said I was once
a kid and I threw rocks at cars on the street
I grew up in the woods I'd never seen
cars go by so close and I
was at a friend's house it was on the main road
and I was like four years old and I was like I bet I could hit one of those cars
I tried and I missed I tried and I missed
I tried and ding oh I got one
so I was like I'll try again and the second person
stopped and was like where's your mom
and I remember that day
and I never threw rocks at cars again
but like you know if I
did that in another that country that situation
that's a very different outcome
so like the innocence of youth
and the mistakes that kids make is not
usurped because of
any other political agenda
I just thought is
intolerable yeah correct and then
when we're talking about the scale of
rocks versus tanks I mean
there's that whole discussion as well right
like I mean these are palestinians
who really are fighting with
very little tools on their
side against you know a very well
formed modern
army with technology
and tanks and all the above but
I mean the my bottom line would be
I never took interest in
Zionism I didn't
even know it was a thing until after 9
11 right I
got called a Zionist the day
after my first publication
and the logic was
because Dylan Avery had worked with somebody
in Connecticut their Zionist or whatever
so we must be Zion I was like I don't even know what you people
were saying and they doxxed me and
I got doxxed so like
May 31st 2006 is my first
publication whatever June
1st 2006 we got doxxed and
got called Zionist or whatever and I
had no idea about any of that but I did know
there were
Israel influenced
agents and companies involved in my experience
with 9 11 so then I started putting
oh Zionism is the political agenda of these
people who are doing these things
and if the Zionist story was
truthful I would back it
seems like a you know
real struggle against oppressive people
and you know you should be back because you're the victim
however if you
read the notes the the journals
the letters of the founding Zionists
they knew the whole time that they were going to take someone
else's country and that those people would resist
and they were rightful to do so
then Koreans let her say these
things over and over and over again kind
vitesman kind vitesman
and these guys are writing back with Cecil Rhodes like hey
we really admire your project how we do a part
tied here so like the history
behind this is fascinating
and what they're able to block from most people's perspective
is also impressive because
a couple words like conspiracy theory
you know that's CIA
document 1035-960
countering criticism of the
war and commission report at the 24 page memo
where they decide to use
the phrase conspiracy theory as a
pejorative to
advance CIA propaganda
why would they have to do that if Oswald really killed Kennedy
why does it take 30 volumes
because I have the
I have the senator's copy of the war and commission report
I have 30 volumes on how
it was a magic bullet bro
that's why it takes 30 volumes because it doesn't make any sense
and just really quick on that
I find it really interesting
Jacob Hornberger has been doing such great
work covering the CIA
involvement in the JFK assassination
and the thing that he comes
to the conclusion of
when he really zones in on the
autopsy specifically and this is
sort of like this in a way the smoking
gun that I use like the verb
for a bit of a smoking gun
for whenever I get into I could debate people about this
which is hardly ever but
the fact that
it is proof positive
that the JFK autopsy
report was
fraudulent
there's only one reason why
the only people that could do that is the US Army and the
Secret Service
there's only one reason why the US Army and the Secret Service
would create a fake
autopsy report and it's because they were involved
there's no if ends or bus
agreed now let's
add to that you know what the first
weapon found at the
depository was
I do not
the weapon identified as shooting
Jack Kennedy on that day was found by a Dallas police
officer with World War two
fighting experience
he said
it was identified as a German
Mauser so now we got two German
Mausers and two magic bullets
decades apart that's an interesting
situation
and then didn't they later change it to
being an Italian Carcano
well yeah so that's what they do they can't match
like the Mauser is not where Oswald was
the Mauser is in the different part of the
building and that was probably part of the
executive order executive action kill team
the go ahead and leave it
don't take it with you no one's going to get
it even the guy who finds it like it's
never going to get out there for 50 years that he
found it or identified it as the weapon
so man linker
Carcano is not a
species that exists naturally in nature
it's like an artificial creation
so they take the Italian Carcano rifle
they match it with the Manlicker
German World War two
kind of magazine and now they
have like the axis of
evil immortalized in a
rifle held by a guy in a poor
Photoshop picture in his backyard
who worked for them like Oswald worked
for them like oh who's the guy
there he was being I know the dude who
the name of the guy who handled
Oswald
worked with
now he worked with
William Bloom later he was
oh jeez
there was this okay so real quick
there's a guy on the internet
who's in prison who claims he killed Jack Kennedy
you guys ever see that interview
he's like older guy with a mustache
he tells this really interesting
story now he's been locked up since the
70s the guy who's telling you the story
okay I know enough about the crime
to know this I don't know if he's
the guy who killed Kennedy or if he's just trying to be
famous from saying that but I do know
this the information
that he gives you during that interview
can be verified a number
of ways and there's no way he could
know such things unless
he was participating in it because he hasn't
had access to the internet or all these books that
I've had to read to learn these things
so when he's saying that Oswald
was staying in such and such hotel
and that such and such CIA guy
was handling him it wasn't
Tosh Plumlee but it was it was a guy
like in those circles of the
January 22nd
1963 Mexico City
meeting like Porter Goss
who appears again
in 9-11 so you got Barry Seal
Porter Goss, Tosh Plumlee, Felix Rodriguez
Felix Rodriguez might be involved
in that Kiki Camarena story I told you earlier
it might be
him being named in the Netflix
I'm sorry Amazon last narc series
so there's a long
history in the like the Civil Air Patrol
that also plays into the JFK assassination
they were smuggling drugs
Barry Seal
working with David Ferry and those guys they're smuggling drugs
what was George W. Bush missing
wasn't he A-Wall in the Air National Guard
who was he A-Wall with
he was A-Wall with James R. Bath
Major James R. Bath
it's blacked out on the documents
but if you research it that's James Bath
who's James Bath he's the Bin Laden family
money manager that intersects
with the Bush family
before 9-11 this is all
in Mark Lombardi's artwork
you can pick up global networks because they killed
Mark Lombardi March 22nd
3-2-2-thousand before 9-11
but after 9-11 the FBI went
to the museums Whitney Museum Jewish Museum
said we want to see Lombardi's work because
he tracked the whole Narco Terrorism network
he did BCCI he did Iran Concha
I mean it's all there
and that's where I learned
to do network diagrams and make
them into software connections
and that's where I built my history blueprint for the past
I don't know 15 years since like
2008 it's almost 20 years
so I've got 11,000
entities and 50,000
links that you can
surf through and see all the connections between
these people that don't exist apparently
for those who have too little
RAM to consider the truth
that's certainly one way to put it
well I
for one appreciate all this
knowledge that you're sharing with us
I don't know I don't have quite
the depth of understanding on this
JFK as you guys do
but it's certainly interesting and
it really kind of almost
opens up the door to shifting
and segwaying into Charlie Kirk if
we weren't running so low
on time and I did want
to get to my Liberty report card
question just because I talked
it up in the beginning of the podcast
and I know the past few podcasts
we've done I've kind of stepped on Matt's toes
with the white pill question so
I'm gonna back off a little bit
and we'll just do the Liberty report
card seeing it is the end of the year
and you are such an OG in this movement
and you know a little self-examination
is never a bad thing right
to examine our accomplishments and trajectory
but we did have
the writer and
thought leader Jeffrey Tucker
on the podcast last month
he lives near me
he lives near the town yeah
well it was a great conversation definitely
worth listening to guys if you haven't checked that one out already
but he basically admitted
after years of being an anarchist
a libertarian anarchist that he's kind of grown
disillusioned with trying to steer
the Liberty movement in the right direction
and he still supports
the parallel systems idea
but he basically argued that
without some type of
top-down apparatus to really dismantle
the old order that were basically stuck
so as we close out the year
I want to ask you like where do you think
we stand are do you feel like we're making
progress kind of building awareness
of natural rights and exposing things
like the surveillance state and
the encroaching police state
or are there areas that we're falling short
and you know somebody
who has been doing this and watching
the arc of this movement for two decades it seems
you know to make sense to ask you
about it I mean I could be highly
critical and tell you all the things we're doing
wrong and where we need to improve but let's
look at the things that we're doing right
over the past 20 years
we've gone from not
being able to talk about these topics
with anybody basically
to being able to talk
about these things with anybody
I could go to my garbage guy that's picking up the
garbage at the end of the road here and be like hey
what do you think about this Epstein deal and them
not releasing those files they
have opinions they want to know what do you think
about the Charlie Kirk murder well I think
it's awfully odd those texts he sent
right before he got killed right so
these sort of things that
were taboo or you know
back room conversations with your buddies
but never out in public like these
things are all now getting a place in the first
amendment circle of ideas to
be considered and you couldn't
have a fair landscape when such ideas
are censored and held
back and that's you know
preventing people from getting to the truth they seek
what why do we need the truth
that it is important to discern
truth from fiction in order to make
accurate choices judgments and decisions
and that reflects how we actually survive
in this world so it's pretty damn important
but they don't teach us about this in school
so we could say woe is us
we are broken they they got the better
of us or we could say look it's only
half time if we come back out
on the field and we try our hardest and we use
some methods and we out learn them and we
are optimistic and
we have an attitude of gratitude and we are innovative
because we can defeat them with better ideas
we haven't even thought of yet
they are trying to destroy freedom because they don't
understand it therefore they fear it therefore
they cannot really destroy it unless they get
us to destroy it for ourselves
they're always trying to catch up to the innovation
of freedom people they got the flock cameras
you got the apps to block the flock stuff
they're going to make that illegal now you're
going to have people stand up and say go ahead put us
all in jail right when you make
everyone a criminal
those people might decide to branch out
you made me a criminal because I had a
Montana plate on my Ferrari
when I drove it through the cornfield
well maybe I'll just take on the black hat
mentality like when they're doing these things
with certain influencers out there that are
going on and the influencers
have enough Cajones to stand their ground
it's a positive example
for other people to say hey I can stand my ground
too hey maybe I could stand up against
oppression and these people who are
totally predatory
and willing to lie at every turn
we must caveat mentor
we must learn to not accept their offers
of not truth
and we must learn to be able to explain our positions
step by step how we arrived
at that conclusion to someone else
and now we can actually have forward
progress so I don't think
I mean I'm not saying the Tucker's wrong
Jeffrey Tucker is right on many things
but I don't think you need to top down
like strong man
to like impose all this stuff
I think the strong man in the scenario
if he's right is an idea
whose time has come
and that idea permeates
such that you know
when you outgrow something you physically
can't put it back on anymore ideas are
like that too learning is like that too
so as we come to learn
about the denial of our rights
of passage the denial of knowledge
of self the denial of knowledge of our
environment and we see how that how lost
and confused that makes people
when we see that they already
know the opposition knows
1938 Yale Institute of Human Relations
Frustration Aggression Studies
if you are blocked from attaining
your goal you will get frustrated
anyone who gets frustrated will
get aggressive so therefore
society either has a pill for you if you get frustrated
or they have a cage if you get aggressive
now those are the guide rails
we have to interact with a solution
without tripping up on either of those
guardrails so I think it's
for individuals to take
back their power to say
I'm not a victim because if I'm a victim
someone else is doing this to me and I have no control
I'm going to take what do they call it
extreme, extreme ownership
that's what Jaco called it right
I'm not the biggest fan but sometimes he says
something that rings true and I'll use it
extreme ownership over your own situation
and say okay we didn't
choose to come into this place doing these things
we were born into this place and these things are going on
are we going to live our one
and only precious life under
the guise of these illusions or are we going to learn
not to be dependent on that
authority and be obedient to things
that aren't true we're going to learn to
actually deal with reality we're going to take
things step by step we're going to apply methods
to get desired results consistently
and we're going to enact the solution that we
can be every day in our life
and make our life into a lifestyle
a mosaic of freedom that
shines and outlasts our being
here on the planet in a positive way
meaning it influences future generations
it influences people in other places
to do likewise
because we can and these people who are
trying to subjugate us
they are not worth our intellectual
respect but until you grow
enough to see boy
Barry Weiss might be full of shit
oh my god this might be something else going on
Larry Ellison might have been planning
this digital ID for the past 25 years
I could prove that because
my wife used to work at oracle on his sales
organization in New York City
and then litigated against his company
for years let me tell you how that
works out you could have the evidence
it could be legally admissible and it can
win the day but they tell
you yeah the the jury
is going to believe your story and they're going to
side with you but we're going to appeal you're
never going to see this money and how do you like the last
6 years of your life you want the next 20 years
of your life to be like this that's where it
gets to so they know the
end game and you as an innocent
whistleblower or someone trying to assert
your rights you're like I got protections
and that's not how the world works
and that was a million dollar education for both
of us so learning
how to remain optimistic in this
black pill you know civil war
environment how to cause people
to find unity instead of
division is
like a life-saving
skill these days so
learn how to be a fireman
that puts out the fires and not like
Montog and those crazy fucks in
Fahrenheit 451
hell yeah man
no army can stop an idea whose time
has come and I believe that the
idea is stop being so
goddamn divided all the time because that's
how they truly win and rule us man
yeah that's a Victor Hugo quote just real
quick I talk about problems for like
the last 20 years for the past seven years
I've been enacting solutions for adults
who are plagued by
not knowing these basic easy
to learn things that can help people make
success a consistent
entity in their lives hey
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this is going to be the last question man so
I'll show you the door before that man
thank you so much for coming on today
your expertise is
pretty amazing dude you like
connected dots through geopolitical
games on oil grabs in Venezuela
to the CIA
and their drug trade you painted
a pretty overwhelming picture of this institutionalized
corruption that we live under
currently man and you know
the inspiring story you and your wife
helping to get out Ibrahim man that's
also pretty amazing as well dude
the it's a concept of taking action
right so the
the white pill question has to do with that
so you know you you said at the beginning
of the podcast you dedicated like 20 years
to dissecting this engine
of centralized power and
you know once you grasp the sheer
scale at of what this
Leviathan is doing on
on this global plane and the
control that they wield over everybody it's
a like you said it's it's a black
pill that so many people fall into and
are more than willing to swallow and live
their lives in complete pessimistic
fucking darkness and
I refuse to do that
I see the light all the time
I don't see any of that darkness but
you're building this program called autonomy
and it's basically
a direct counterattack to what we've been talking
about in here it's it's like a structured
curriculum correct me if I'm wrong in any of
this for self ownership
right it teaches entrepreneurship and
and critical thinking and I think
we lack that so much in today's society
but given everything we've talked about today
why is the
simple act of like reclaiming
one's personal autonomy through this
skill building and community
rather than waiting for another
puppet political savior who will never
arrive it's why is that the only
true truly effective
and you know frankly like
the only responsible form
of resistance we have left against this
collapsing global machine
I think it's the only one that's
non-contradictory
to my political philosophy
in other words there's a lot of things you could do
you could go all Ted Kaczynski on people
and you know Ted might have been right on some
points but I don't agree with his actions
involving innocent people right
so what are the things in so if there's
anything that's possible and now I have
to limit my actions by morals
ethics and integrity and consistency
right what
can I do within that framework
to not plunder anyone else's production
but also physically and intellectually
defend myself against their ignorance
well I need to work
on myself I need to earn skills
that means learn through work
in experience to own them I need
to earn some skills that allow
me to bring in for instance more money
than I need and then I don't have to
be in a scarcity mindset and I can
develop and do what I want because I know
how to interact with that process
most people aren't even taught how to
get a good job let alone how to
start a business so you can write checks
and give other people jobs
I've been writing checks for other people
for many years now I never thought I'd really do that
like it was beyond even my
like I was like to hire people
or to have overhead like
that was all beyond my
my realm of like where we were with
freedom just 10 years ago
but I can't to a point where I realize if I don't
step up and start adding more value
into the market and helping people
outgrow these
they are so unnecessary
the limitations that have been installed
to govern your mind not for your
freedom the learned helplessness
the scarcity mentality the provisional
self-esteem these these things that John
Taylor Gatto pointed out are
real and they plague people
on a multi-decade basis so
what if we just had a training session
and we could do many many many things
in that training session so for instance
I do the training session twice a year
it's 12 weeks long people can keep coming back
and going through again and again
and I have many students so I've done it
now seven years I've had over a thousand
students go through I have some of them
have gone through 14 times
twice a year for the past
seven years because they keep getting better
and expanding in their growth right
so what I did
was I analyzed how they broke
our education system to make us so easily
indoctrinated and I
put a fix in for that so the
the three main phases of the 12 weeks
are we have to unlearn these
unusual ideas that we've inherited
and we have to replace them with ideas
that actually reflect reality now
with that strong foundation
and the you know
you're getting over introversion you're learning how to
overcome fear you're learning how to stop
self-sabotaging all these things in the first couple
weeks at base camp and then we
make the climb for the summit so now we're
going to learn multiple high value skills
that any of these if you practice them
can add up to a six figure skill set
now I say that because the skills that
I teach as part of the course just
for two weeks of the 12 that that little skill
set I earned a million
dollars before I was 30
not because of my college education
but because I knew how to solve high value
problems consistently
and do that with international
organizations so learning how to do
something and then applying it to the biggest use
case where you can precipitate some income
for yourself might be a smart move now
if you could do that in the ethics in the realm
of you know I found out eventually
the people that were paying me a lot of money
might not be very friendly
toward freedom they might have had something
to do with the events of 9-11
maybe I should take a close closer
look at who I'm taking a paycheck from
maybe at some point if I'm a whistleblower and don't
have a career I need to rely on these skills
to formulate my own
offer to the world and you know
to be able to preserve my integrity
I had to have skills to be able
to defend that it had
I not have these skills that I teach
I wouldn't have been able to stand my ground
I could have been easily
pressured or corrupted so
it's like the get out
of jail free card because you're not supposed
to be in jail and you've been holding the key
the whole time but until you find out how to
put that key in the lock and actually express
yourself through auto
didactic learning learning how
you learn meta learning and then
applying that to the internet hyper learning
those couple of things
expedite all these other skills that I teach
in the course so I have
small groups twice a year less than
a hundred students everybody knows each
other's names we hang out for
I mean probably you know over a hundred
hours during the season there's lots of different
activities and exercises to help build
confidence and skills and competence
so that my students can graduate
and go into the market and be successful and be part
of the solution that adds up to freedom
and not tyranny so I spend
five six days a week
with autonomy students teaching
them at getautonomy.info
and then Sunday nights I do the grand theft
world podcast that allows me to express
my knowledge of globalism in the new world
order as juxtaposed to a week long
series of news clips
so each week I create a time capsule
of what happened in our history
and these are the pieces of evidence that everyone's
gonna where's that clip of
the Utah governor saying that
Tyler Robinson took his clothes off on the roof
and change yeah that's in episode
two fifty one
and it was the week that it happened
it was the first press conference after Charlie
got shot so by preserving
the evidence and artifacts
I feel that I'm doing justice to
the news and providing people
in the future with a clear sense of their history
the last point I want to make is
I did an episode called
JFK 50 year anniversary
it was episode of my peace revolution
podcast series that episode
is 20 hours of evidence that
you have never heard about the JFK
situation and it's packaged up
in time capsule to send it
to people in the future because the people who killed
Kennedy are going to continue to lie
and when people that they're lying to say
I got the evidence right here
it's awful hard to like carry the lies
on further so I like to package
up the goods and then send them
you know into these little electronic
time capsules
of inconvenient narrative
disruption so the
Mauser clip in there you would hear that evidence
that I referred to earlier tonight in the
JFK 50 episode
hell yeah dude I don't know when you get
time to sleep but
you sound like a busy dude man and
I'm very glad that you're doing this work
it sounds incredible and your journey
sounds incredible again
Richard thank you so much for coming on dude
tell before we go tell everybody
where they can find and support your work brother
well first off Jason
Don Matt you guys have been incredible
during this hour I'd like to talk with you guys again
and you can find my work at
grandtheftworld.com that's the Sunday night
live stream podcast for 7 hours every week
and then getautonomy.info
is where people can learn how
to level up their game decide
to be intentionally useful
and gain the skills that change your life
forever because the way I'm able to
marshal my 168 hours
in a week is incredible
and game changing and allows me to go
so much further so much faster with so much
less resistance and I just try to offer
that to those you know you can lead a person
of knowledge but you can't make them think
those who want to think I've got a healthy drink
amen
hell yeah brother
thank you Richard