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Monday, April 6, 2026.
Welcome to another episode of What the Hell is Happening
with Charlie Robinson and myself
to discuss, you know, what the hell is going on in the world.
The madness that is every cycle
and all the converging events and all the manipulation
and all the constant propaganda.
How are you, Charlie?
I'm great. How are you? Happy Easter.
Thank you.
Honestly, a lot of positive things going on.
I recently got some chickens
and our garden is doing well
and the world outside of the media cycle
seems to be pretty common normal.
It's important to remember that too
because we can get ourselves kind of
all worked up about these events
and we should be aware of them for sure.
But if it starts to impact
our physical health or our mental health
or makes us difficult to be around
because we're brooding and, you know,
I don't think that that's beneficial either.
So hopefully we can find that balance
between being informed
without being inundated
and being overwhelmed by this.
Yeah, I agree.
I mean, that's something I often point out about the,
like being in this field and being aware,
for example, of, you know,
just to go to the far part with it,
you know, like things like a target individual
which are very real conversations despite the fact
that there's a lot of people in that
that can't be verified or people that I think
might be misled or whatever,
but the things that we know exist
to the smaller degree like surveillance, you know,
or, you know, whatever, that these are real things.
And so, but the point being is that
even though we know it exists
and even to the degree that we know it exists
and overlaps with people in the field
and doing what we're doing about whether
that's being censored or suppressed or surveilled,
it's never in your interest to assume
it's always what's happening.
Like it will make you go crazy
if in every shadow, everything happening,
you jump that go, oh, they're attacking me,
they're censoring me, they're doing that even though
it maybe is the case, if you think that
you're going to go crazy, you know,
and it's like, it's something that I often tell myself
because it's easy to fall into that,
just because, you know, you have to try to,
you know, the point is if everything's always
against you and everything's always bad
and everything's always an enemy, then that's
how you live your life and that's not happy.
And I don't believe that is the full picture, right?
I don't believe that's all of it, you know,
but again, even if it is, try to find
some light in there, you know, but
right now with what's going on with
the Iran conversation and everything else
with the COVID-19 change we saw
with people starting to see things they haven't done,
us talking about this quite often, you know,
I wanted to start with a point today about
the awareness of all of this,
which I kind of think we can all just acknowledge
that that's the cat's out of the bag, right?
I feel like we've been hinting it like,
do you think this has, you know,
what do you think about the amount of people
that are seeing things or not?
But let me play this clip and, you know, funny,
it's just a basic guy saying things we've all said,
but for some reason it's getting a lot of reach
and it just, it's, you know, kind of come to Jesus' meeting.
Like, you were played, it's okay, we know it, right?
That's where I think we are right now
and then we can talk about it.
You didn't get a wall,
you didn't get any arrests,
you didn't get drain the swamp
or America first,
you didn't get any infrastructure,
no $5,000 dose check,
you didn't eliminate any national debt
or get any help buying a new home
or help with lower grocery prices
or gas prices.
I mean, it's quite the opposite, in fact.
You didn't get a $2,000
stimulus check
or affordable healthcare
or any accountability
for the Epstein files,
which he promised when he said he was going to
release them all to the public
and you damn sure didn't get any
no more wars.
Now,
what you got was conned
and you're too fucking embarrassed
to admit it.
You know, probably because
I think the point, I can't confirm it
but I think the point is that the guy is,
you know, a MAGA influencer himself
or at least influential in that community
and so him saying it has more meaning
but you know, it's just kind of a,
you know, you were played kind of a,
you know, it's and I don't know.
What do you, what do you think from that?
Why do you think it's getting influenced?
Q2, electric boogaloo.
This is the same thing I said about the Q people.
You guys got played. There's no shame in it, right?
It happens to everyone, you know,
as long as it's the only time it happens to you
but you need to recognize
what you were told, why you believed it
and then you need to be honest
that he didn't deliver on it.
He didn't deliver on it the first time around either.
That's why part of the reason why we kept saying
hey, you guys who are like
say this time is going to be different
like what part of the equation leads you
to believe that?
So if you're still
in denial, you're never going to
you're never going to get anywhere.
So I think that maybe the first step, you know
whether it's an addiction or
or you got duped with Donald Trump
or you got caught playing three-card Monty
you just need to admit that you
you've been had
happens to everybody, right?
It just on different levels
where you compound it
is if you're unwilling or unable to admit
that you were wrong.
That this happened and you say no, no, no
it's the arrests are actually coming
what you don't understand guys is that
there's patriots are in control
and you just go, no man
none of that is actually happening
this is all a carefully
choreographed presentation
delivered to you to make you feel a certain way
but none of that stuff is happening
and the sooner you recognize this
the better off your life will be
and so I may not come out of the anarchist camp
they're like
red team, blue team
which team we got to get them in the midterms
we're like, we passed that
maybe people need to
the next conversation
is going to be well
I guess
we just need to really buckle down
for the midterms then
and it's going to be like
you're not understanding
what's happening here
this is all beyond
elections you're in the back
seat with the kids steering wheel
thinking that you're driving the car
that's what's happening in reality here
and maybe
people who are willing to acknowledge
that I think
the short term
pain and frustration
and embarrassment of being duped
by that
will be
offset by the long term
benefits of just no longer
believing this fairy tale
that you're going to vote your way out of this situation
you're just not going to
and I think that this is going to
everyone gets a little wake up call
if they have the eyes to see it
maybe for a new batch of MAGA people
this will be it for them
I certainly hope so
I do think it's been an evolving scenario
but I think that
it's not
it's partly an illusion
what we're seeing is this
awakening that's been happening for a long time
and I think we talked about that was a Q thing
there's been all these different levels
and trips and mindset
to try to stop people
and I think we're at a point now where they're just going okay
it's happening
people are changing and I think that's what we come around
to the conversation about why they're trying to
rush to put together the next kind of control structure
before we all wake up and realize we're
just about to step out of the first one
or however you look at that
so this is where this next part comes into play
which I find really interesting
and all this is based on opinion
other than the points we can prove
we're trying to kind of read how it all fits together
so make sure you understand that
but to me this is a really interesting addition to this
I think this is
so at one point you could have argued it was
completely shut down and controlled
but as we're discussing people are starting to see it
and wake up and pull out of the illusion
and so I think what this is
was one of these efforts to keep that
lid on it or at least
or at least a lid on it or try to drive them back into it
Jenna's girl pointed this out
and
this was
Nate Silver's the one that actually did the research
I was going to say it didn't pop up that'd be funny
it says these are the Twitter X accounts
with the most engagement so far in 2026
I suppose I had some intuition for how bad it was
but jeez this is what you get
when an ecosystem is broken
and it's that you know
it proves you to go through and look at the actual
all of it but what's really crazy to me
is just to look at this game
and what we're talking about is
first of all the awareness of the
seeing that you were conned from Trump's
position the government at large
not left or right if you understand it
but that you were played and lied to about what was going to happen
then you got all the Nick Sorters
Wall Street Apes and Eric Dowderdies
and Eagle Gunthermans and all these people
captured with the massive
50-100 million people influence
who then just carry the to and toe the line
and so that's not honest right
because we've come to see that they are just
a joke today they're being made fun of by their own people
where ultimately now the point is
they just cheer like the red light
holy crap guys I've come to call them now
because every red light holy crap and they just repeat
what they're saying and I think that's being seen
so my point in all that is that this was an effort
and an example of the controlling
narrative with the AI algorithmic
on edition right so this
was an this was an ability to stop people
from being able to see that it
wasn't the majority if you get what I'm saying
you know and this is still in there for a lot of people
because they think that represents the massive
you know the amount of the conversation that is the majority
and we'll come in and say something that proves them wrong
and yet you get the Elon Musk and the rest of them
to stand up overshadow that
growing awareness you know and like
I wonder if this is the end of
organic reach or maybe it's already happened
you know what do you mean
all this your whole
feed is curated to match
you you know you hand somebody else
your your phone and or you swap
phones with them it's like living in a different
dimension where
where everybody's your social
you know depending on what you're into it's
these people be served up to you but
but the
the Israeli flags on it I think
is helpful here
we get these accounts
I mean I don't subscribe to any of them
I don't follow even on the for you tab
or the subscribed whichever one
I get these people shoved into my face
and it's not because they were shared by somebody I follow
like that's a whole other angle to it though
right so it's just being jammed into your face
and that's not whether you follow them or not
you know so that speaks to something that's independent
of what was already a control structure
that's like the Israel Zionism influence I guess
or that's how I would look at it
and then that proves that it's narrative management
because if it were really about
you the person
those those
circles there would be all your best friends
they'd be the people who you interact
with the most they'd be the people who stuff
you're looking at but they're not
I don't subscribe to any I don't
follow any of those people they are forced
fed I see their post against
my will and so
that tells me
that that is being done on purpose because I
don't see the people who I want to see
who I'm following
I never see them
but I can't help
but see the people who I'm not following so
yeah the cat turds
of the world and people like that so
but maybe this is
maybe for some people
who are new to this they need to see it
they need to
experience this for themselves
to go oh yeah you know I know you guys
were always kind of complaining about how
rigged social media is but now I get it
yeah when I see five
different accounts tweeting out the exact same
thing that's obviously
coordination so they're not even
maybe real people so
what is happening here well the maga voice
one that one actually got exposed that's one of the biggest
accounts that circle as a complete
like after trip account there's like six versions
of it they're all connected the same but it doesn't even
stop that this is the whole point that awareness
even in the republican side of it doesn't slow
the growth of these accounts so it's artificial
you know and I'm not going to say there's not people that support them
I think there's like an ecosystem of
people that have just decided to support anything
with a patriot flag or a maga thing next to
it as a default right but that's
still not the majority in my opinion you know so
it just speaks to this alarming thing that's happening
that goes beyond what was already
happening which is an influence propaganda
effort to control our mind but this goes
well beyond that and I was actually just talking
with Patrick about this this comes to the point of this
kind of like Armageddon push
you know telling the truth we're fighting for Armageddon
with this weird Zionist religious
push coming through our government you know
to the point to where we should be wondering whether
that's even our government at this point you know
it's it's an alarming point
their ability or desire to
make the minority appear to be
the majority
pulls me into those psychological
videos that they showed
from like the 60s and 70s
where they have you know where the guy gets in the elevator
and everybody else in the elevator is facing the other
direction and guy doesn't know what to do so he
turns around faces the other direction too
you know that they know how to
can you know to
to manipulate people and they know that it doesn't
really require necessarily
51% but they've got those
numbers so if they can make that minority
appear to be
everybody in the elevator looking
at the back wall next thing
you know you turn around look at the back wall too
and then because they know that about they know that
about us that we don't even know about ourselves
or that we're in oh that would never happen to me
you know next thing you know you're in
the elevator so so I think that there's
there's a psychological there's obviously
like a tavastock component to this that
that knows how to
knows that you know maybe
sirens holy crap
is exactly the way you get people
you know what I mean
it's got it's got to have tested well
if it's there
it's I mean it's it is a like I because
you nailed it like that is a it's
it's it's weird you can call it out like it
shifts between that and like holy smokes and you'll
see them all Jesse Waters and like this
repetitive so there's something feeding that
whether they know it's being you know they're just being
told or so but there's something that's deciding
that is somehow getting the best reach so it
gets emulated and it's just such a weird
artificial thing that just takes over the entire
conversation you know but it's it is
it to the point about the elevator
thing you know what it's interesting to me
is so let's put ourselves in that position
if you and I walked into an elevator
and it wasn't any wasn't like some politicized
thing you just walk in you're going to an appointment
and you step in the elevator and people face
the other way you know we very well might
just turn around maybe because we think though the door might be on the other side
like and that's the point though
it's it's about the be unaware of the
influence but if you and I were to step into
this elevator and it was just somehow clear
that these people had a certain political inclination
you and I probably go fuck that we're going to
oh I should have cussed it was going to face it away
by their opinions but it's not
knowing that you're being influenced that makes
that effective if you get my point yeah
yeah and
we all think that we're
you know somehow above it
and that we can't be manipulated which
which I think actually makes us
more susceptible to because I think we have to
be you know honest
to that we are
being manipulated it's a matter of degree
and if you're aware of it you know the tactics
like you you're more you're more inclined
to to avoid it or say oh
boy I feel like there
like I was getting for a while I my social
media feed was nothing but
large groups of black kids
black guys beating up
one white kid who walked in the wrong neighborhood
or was getting beat up at school was getting
shown that over and over and over
and over again and and
and then it's one of those things it's like well you can't
help but kind of watch it because it's being served
to you and then it's like oh you like that you're watching it
here's more of that thing that you're like I'm not trying
to watch it I'm trying to recognize
that I'm being served this so
I'm like hyper aware
of it and so I feel like oh well maybe it won't
have that impact on me too much but
but still it
you know it will you know it does on some
some level right well it's it's sort of a point
of like like like I've said
in the past just a personal point you know that
the biggest flaw is to pretend that you have none
everybody has something that they're you know and
so it's same kind of point right is that
you pretend that you're just not able to manipulate
it probably means you're more manipulated than
anybody right it's that's kind of the idea of the
fools and fanatics right well all are always so sure
of themselves well while they're men why is there
men full of doubts you know it's they all it's
the false certainty but it's so it's important
to steal yourself to that we'll all
we get lost at something you know we like
we point out there's a jet there's if we do
what what we all do in this you know the
questioning everything we're very careful to
consider different possibilities it's much
much it's much less likely but still can
happen but if you're the kind of person
who's being led by the nose by certain
commentators well then it's going to happen
every other day but hey if you're still
questioning it you'll find your way back but
it's about that starting point you know so
let's talk about Iran
and this in this kind of a
framing right and how the propaganda
around this is just getting insane so I
want to carry over from the partisan
side of it which this guy man
it's it's it's this is
exactly the point that hit Mario
Nafal just comes out of nowhere and it's
like this right hand influencer category to
Elon Musk and it's hosting
all these things and with all these you know
it's yet it seems roundly
criticized by almost everybody like
even people that are sort of on his side
half the time right and so in this
like there was another one he just put out
by basically saying you know that if Iran
doesn't basically bow to US interest then
it'll become the aggressor and everybody
was making fun of him you know it's like
that's the stupidest opinion so it's
it's coming out right now people are
starting and others are feeling I think
confident enough to make the case who
worked before but here's what he put out
it says Q&A with Trump saying how
would it how would it not be a war crime
to strike strike Iran's bridges and
power plants and Trump says well they're
animals and I just think it's like how
did we get here how do they become so
clear
does he not is he not aware does he not
have advisers around him they're going
whoa man like you're not supposed to say
that part of it you know I don't know but
let's watch this so we can discuss it
Mr. President how would it not be
a war crime to strike Iran's bridges
and power plants because they killed
45,000 people in the last
month more than that
could be as much as 60
they killed protesters they're
animals and we have to
stop them and we can't let them have a
nuclear weapon very simple they want a
nuclear weapon they've been trying for a long time
I stopped them with the Obama
horrible Iran nuclear deal
I stopped them a lot of different
ways so
oops sorry about
that wrong button
and so I mean you've probably seen the discussions
of you know I mean we and we already
reported this all of us they armed the protesters
now trumps come out and just publicly admitted
that we already knew it but so
how you know it's you can't pretend that
this was not an armed invasion and all the
even the numbers are beefed but
I just don't get why he's not being more
tactful with all this unless it's my design what do you think
does it can he be
is he capable of it
I've seen him I've seen him is playing you know
I mean look at the selection processes or whatever
else like I think he could be more tactful
he must be under
immense pressure
there must be somebody in his ear
saying this is not going well
you know they you watch
what they did to Kristi Noem
right they made her dance
and sing and jump through hoops and in the end
they use the blackmail evidence
on her anyway on our way out
the door they don't care there's no loyalty
here I don't know why he thinks he's going to be able to
to keep these monsters off of him if they're
if they're actually trying to make if
Trump is being manipulated as people believe
into doing something against his will
you know at what point do we
recognize that
this is his this is
in his will as well I don't know that
this is being done against his will
any longer that's it because this is an important
part of this this came out right in I think
the first example that it was like owned
to a degree by the side that was trying to deny it
was when Rubio comes out and says well we had
to because Israel is going to nuke Iran and then we
we were like well that's what we've been
saying and a lot of the right basically grabbed
that to make the argument that it showed
Trump wasn't responsible because they didn't want
that to be the case right and yet it's
it opened that door that I can't like
we've all been showing has can't be shut again
is that well now you can see that Israel is
alarmingly influencing policy and that's
been spinning out of control but you know it's
it's yeah I don't know it comes down
to this point where you wonder
what's really driving the bus you know what's
really in control of it it comes back that larger
point of the conversation I don't know I mean
it depends on what you think
is actually you know it is the
religious side of this driving the agenda
or is the technocratic side of this is it
a part of both I think it makes a difference
on what you see driving the outcome you
know sure if the
if the outcome if we
work backwards we find out what the outcome
is and then we figure out how and they
make it happen what if the outcome is
global famine
because that or energy
lockdowns or both yeah you know
because it where we're here thinking
it's Israel versus Iran
and of course it is in a set in a
in a in a very real sense but
what if that's the sideshow
what if the ultimate goal is the aftermath
of this you know because in the aftermath of
all these world wars what do we get
we get the League of Nations or we get
the United Nations or we get
some world governing but like
board of peace is that
what angling to be the
the the next United Nations
in the aftermath of world war three I mean
you you the war is one
thing the rules that are made
in the aftermath of the war is something
else entirely
yeah I mean it seems
clear that that is what this comes down to
some kind of a reorganization
of the plan and I
think a lot of this kind of stuff right here is just to get
people to not pay attention to that you know what's really
what's really the driving force behind
this because I mean Trump is utterly drowning
in the lies right now like just in
in a spectacular way just continually
doing things that contradict
what he said the day before and back to
you what you're saying is that you know I mean I've seen him
be a little bit you know at least be more
maybe it's his age we shouldn't shy
away from that possibility he is old but
there's something else to it you know it's like
this is where I pulled like that's why I was talking
about the larger conversation is I can't
help but see this as something beyond
what Trump is as a personality
you know because we've seen his hubris
drive him we've seen his narcissism and yet
somehow he's ways if the mindset
is that he's the one in control that it ultimately
is him making himself look that stupid but
into your to your point earlier I think it's both
I think it is a little bit of both I think
that Trump clearly is involved with this
so pretending like he's not responsible is
is just I think is lost
but I think we can
tell me what you think do you think there's examples
of Israel like
let's just either say controlling or
through manipulation getting what they want and
then having Trump not acknowledge that you think
that's happening oh I think
it's both I mean I think
that I think that Trump is willing
to go so far and I think
Israel demands him to go further
I don't think there's ever a line
in the sand that they won't cross
maybe Trump has his
lines in the sand here and there but
at this point
he waves his right to say
oh I was an unwilling participant
in this because he's
been at it for a while and his behavior in the
aftermath he doesn't look like a hostage
he looks like a willing participant
right right so
I mean maybe Marco Rubio
in that
hostage statement or whatever
it was that he when he announced that
Israel was was going to hit them
anyway
that maybe seemed
a little bit more like a cry for help
please don't murder me
you know sort of thing but
what Trump's been saying
in the aftermath of it he
if it's all an act he's been playing the villain
perfectly then because
we're at a point now where
you know I get it that
maybe Israel has some sort of prophecy
where they need the world to absolutely
positively hate them
but we don't
as America
we're not guided by that prophecy
why are you trying to get the world to hate us you know why
because what we're doing right now
is hateable
and
and we're getting dragged into this because of our
hypochondriac cousin in the Middle East
who's who makes it this way
and has the goods on
our government on our on the top levels of our
government I think I think the Epstein
files now make a lot more sense to people
who are kind of like what is this Epstein
they're going oh you can start wars
with them yeah
you can you can you can manipulate
policy of other governments with them
you know like it's a control mechanism
you know and so but the other part
of it too is this lie that people are
undeniably seeing now that this was in any way
some kind of humanitarian effort I mean
that will just be real of all the lies
that one was very difficult to sell from the
onset I think Americans have been very
clear of what you know it's I think that was
out of the bag a long time ago but to some people
they still want to fight for or maybe they thought
Trump be the one to bring it back to the
glory whatever right but to start
this as we're saving the Iranian people
it was just hard to swallow in the beginning
but so now that's not even being like
they're just they're kicking that away like it's not even trying
here here's no engage with the media asking this
question and to understand this the
bigger picture to point even Epstein you bring
up is there's clearly a larger agenda that
this was all tied to individual interest
of the US government Israeli government but
this was something larger greater Israel
technocracy who's to say but it was never
about the Iran
let me just tell you let me just tell you
very fair question
the Iranian people
when they don't hear bombs go
well they're upset
they want to hear bombs because they want
to be free and the only reason they're
now protesting you know that
is because they were informed that if
they protest like the wrestler
and his friends if they protest
they will be shot immediately
and that's an edict that's
in writing if they protest
they go out in the streets they
will be immediately shot
they don't have guns you know we sent
some guns but the group
that was supposed to give which I said
what happened to my people I said it I
called it exactly we sent guns
not a guns they were
supposed to go to the people so they could fight
back against these thugs you know what happened
the people that they sent them to
who kept them because they said
what a beautiful gun I think I'll keep it
so I'm very upset with a certain
group of people and they're going to pay a big price
for that I'm sorry to laugh at that
what is why can't we just
collectively make fun of this person like that's
just the other beautiful guns I'll just keep the guns
because you know it's like he just makes things
up about everything he talks about it's
mind-blowing to me how we can't just be real about
that anyway to the point what are you talking about
his spoken word album is shitty
I feel like William Shatner doing
Rocket Man from the 70s
perfect
and I mean it's I don't know it's
just you know it's this kind of collective psychosis
like this willful delusion that we all just pretend
I mean even people like
they pretend to hate him it's often don't
really go into anyway you know it's
just it's something worth getting into because it's like
we all know but don't talk about it but the
interesting part of this though is obviously
the first conversation of you know
what about the Iranian people who you with oh you're crazy
like for a little bit of an issue that
question even matters but that's the whole point we started
it on but then that you admit
that you armed like so your argument
is that we tried to arm the protesters
but didn't so it's almost like he admits
that it would have been a crime but we didn't actually
do it because these people took it
and what he means is the Kurds that's because
he's already made that case I don't let and
this is the reality of this at the end of the day is
that you know that we and we actually don't think I have it
I do here that the Kurds
were that was a public discussion right that came
out through Israel
all on my screen is a
oh that's right sorry it was freezing on me
Trump pragmatically changes course
has no interest in Kurdish offensive even though
it was literally already happening right and
Kurds could begin ground operation
Iran within days after secretly armed by
us for months
right you know so the game becomes that he
gave them to the protesters but that wasn't
supposed to be the argument it was supposed to be that we armed the Kurds
because that was the public discussion because you
could argue that was a an allied group
not a proxy so I don't get if he's
confused about what he thinks he's trying to relay
here or he's just off the cuff and he wants to
be like I was right I called it you know I don't know
Kurds
it doesn't matter to me it doesn't matter Ryan
we're going to put him down like dogs
it's still crazy
it's in the empire it's a fourth
turning it's a clown show
it's you know it's
it's what
Carlin said born into this world
ticket to the circus born in America
front row seat
yeah you know so
the point though is that to make sure people
remember understand that they're admitting this to
the point where now the evolution of it's
changing where it's well he did it and tried
didn't happen and he's over here and verse
saying why didn't want that to happen with the Kurds
so this I think this is trying desperately
to build some sort of a barrier between him
and the obvious crime they're taking place
you know whatever that looks like but
you are these protesters and I think that has
to be acknowledged because that means that
this was not I mean we know
must Pompeo admitted that
it real and Massad openly stated
they had people on the ground arming
protesters so how is this not an armed
invasion it is
it is you had you were
just speaking to Patrick Kenyansen I caught him
in Mexico
right as he was getting to the hotel coming
in from Tehran he had been there during
the protests and in the aftermath of it to
find out what was going on I said well
what was it they kill 50,000
protesters he said no
they didn't do any of that stuff I don't
know it's like it was the exact opposite of
course no surprise
but I think you know my fear
so Trump is now trying to you know
at first he was saying
well we've got to liberate the
Iranian people right like
like he cares about the people right
but in that didn't work and that wasn't
much of a sales pitch but you've got to have
a sales pitch for
the American public to justify
the war you have to you have to have
a USS Maddox
or you've got to have 911 or you've got
to have a reason you've got to have something
if you just have this well you know they're
bad bad guys there or aluminum
tubes like we did in Iraq I mean
it's hard to generate
it's hard to rally around
the flag but
what if you rally around the
false flag that is my fear
for what's that
this the direction this could go
because there's no
there's no real support
for this war from
the general public and nobody
has there's no clearly defined
goals for the war
everyone pretty much understands that
it's probably Israel that wants it more
so than us you know even just the casual
fans so if you're going to get
people to actually support a much bigger
war you're going to have to have something
happen and and and I
I don't I'm not trying to
speak that into existence or give these
lunatics any ideas but they know that
you know they know that this is a
situation that calls for
a false flag
well it calls for an event
to galvanize the public and
in the absence of an organic one
then plan B is the false flag
so if they're sitting around waiting
for the Iranians to light up a bomb
in Times Square I mean they'll be waiting a long
time for that but if you want
someone else to pretend to be the Iranians doing it
well then I've my guess is that's probably
on the drawing board somewhere right now
and at some point they do another
poll and find out that the this war
is even more unpopular than
Vietnam you know was
or whatever
maybe maybe the bombs start going
off or something like that so
that's my real fear of this is that it does
because I don't know that this war is just going to
fizzle out
yeah I don't think so I mean I think
where we're at is a point where Iran has
very strategically put them on their back foot
despite all the screaming and capital letters
and it's just it's obviously not what's
the reality that the U.S. is somehow dominating
everything and you know you can't lie
every day and say obliterated destroyed no
power they're learning out of web missiles and just
every single day be proven wrong before you just
laugh at these people you know and show and then
very clearly recognize the opposite
that they're desperate that you wouldn't be lying about all this
if you were in some a position of strength right and
so it's quite obvious that the Strait of Hormuz
the way they handled this and we can bring
this into the discussion of like the deal
and the lies about it but
it's very important to see I think the way that they
tactically handled this is that and this is
important to the point of whether the strait was closed
at all it was restricted never
closed as far as I can tell and that's really important
that what the in the onset
I think that Donald Trump was played in a
small way because let's be clear he wanted this
he was very at least he spoke publicly
about and I went over this yesterday
up like January 20 25 February
20 25 was like Iran
sanctions or we're gonna invade like basically
saying that you better get the hard way or the easy
way and somehow people acting like he
wasn't always in this path he was right but
I think that Israel
got him in line with that but then also
tricked him into thinking that he had the excuse
and the justification because Trump is legacy
matters so what I think happened
was that they said after the 12-day discussion
you know they basically said
you know we have an opportunity Netanyahu is what
I see Israel talking to Trump which we've all
but proven this right where the information came
from the conversation the dates they picked
and he convinced Donald Trump in my opinion
that this was going to be his legacy
that you we'll go after Iran no one else
has been able to do this and we will and
Iran will this is the point instantly block
the straight that's what they told him that's
what maybe they thought mines and this and
the bomb everybody and the whole world
behind you mr. Trump and the whole world will see
that you're on the right side and that just didn't happen
and so the straight didn't get closed
and that's why I think they immediately started
reporting the straight's been closed there's
mines in the straight none of that actually
happened as far as I can tell just like
they started saying tanks rolling into Kiev
day one on the war in Ukraine that didn't
happen either because I think they thought
that's what they would do and so now we're to point
where you're in this position where Iran has
created the dynamic where they can
box out the U.S. and Israel and they're starting
to make sure everyone knows no you can go through
Spain go ahead Japan you go right ahead you know
it's like if you're not fighting us you're good
to go but there's been this effort to
convince everybody else and I think also
forcefully to make them stop to not let
him go through because they're trying to
convince the world that it is shut right so
this is this massive game of psychological
manipulation and I just think you have to
point out that that was very tactfully done
by Iran and if we can be honest
about this now they seem to be winning
what do you think? I think
that there's been criticism that the
British haven't been involved in this war
but I would say that they have been I think
Lloyds of London closed the straight
once they would be insurance
you know go deeper
on that what do you mean? Yeah once
the City of London and the
major international maritime
insurance brokers decided
they were done they're the ones who
closed the straight before anything else happened
they said we will not be insuring
carriers that go through there
and Donald Trump's response was well we'll
ensure them by bringing destroyers
or battleships through or something you know
we'll bring groups that will escort
them in that
well now you're a target so that's
clearly not going to work so it wasn't
as you mentioned it wasn't that they put
minds across the straight
they didn't have to
they in fact
that would be counterproductive
the best thing for
them to do is to threaten
that they could or that they could
take you out with a missile but then just
open a toll booth that's what we're doing
right now I'm working on an episode
right now called the Tehran toll
booth and this is
what they're doing they're going to make
a fortune doing this and of course
if you don't have a problem with Iran
and you're not involved in trying
to destroy their country then you don't have a problem
going through right pay the toll
go through
you've done your research
you're the point about the other countries right
and the interesting point that
as far as I can tell
every canal and straight
almost everyone in the world Panama they charge
for you know right they
except Iran has never done that now
there's more to it right there's other elements involved
that's not the sole location but
we can all acknowledge that and this is why
this has always been the conversation and why people predicted
what they would do they have had strategic
control over the straight for a very long
time so it's interesting that yet they have
never charged a toll which I
find very telling right but so what's interesting
you're right they're coming around now to saying okay you put
us here this wasn't this wasn't happening
until you illegally bombed us but now
and we were we talked next if we want to get into
the deal lies that they're at the point now
where they're going to look we're not even talking to you you can
keep pretending like you're offering things we're saying no
we're not doing this until you give us our
you know acknowledge our sovereignty of the country
as well as over the straight which is new
and that we'll be able to you know decide the
the toll mechanism
through the straight but then and of course they
turned around and called it terrorism and threats
even though it's whatever the country does then
though what's interesting to me is as it evolved
it turned into well they're now going to work
they're talking with muscat in regard to
having a dual
deal involved as well
as talking to the neighbors about how it will go
down like and by the way also speaking
to the U.N. and it's like yeah clearly
clearly terrorism taking place
you know but so that's a really important conversation
because this has been done
because of what the U.S. and Israel did
and so then I'm even willing to bet you
that it'll become some of a toll dynamic
largely against the people that are not on their
side and that'll be framed as dishonest and
kind of is I guess
but it's justified I would argue based on what's been
done to them you know so I'm interested to see where you go with
that because there's probably more things that you've gone
into on that any other deeper points on it
well it's such a
great option for them as you mentioned
yeah they collect tolls at the Suez
they can collect tolls at the Panama Canal
I mean these are not
this isn't some new idea
but Iran
had always been very measured
and now this is going to
change things it's going to change things for
the BRICS Plus
countries of which United Arab
Emirates is now a member
Iran is a member so now
we've got BRICS Plus members launching
missiles at each other which is going to be a huge
problem we've got Saudi Arabia who's a
BRICS Plus
they were invited in but they never made a
decision one way or the other so they're sort of
you know
waiting this one out I suppose
because of the back and forth with Trump
and Mohammed Salman
you see that
yeah so this is a
this is a
it's
they
Trump
I think
I think that they walked him into a trap
and I can't tell if it whether it was the
Israelis who did it or the Iranians but
they you know when you're
when you're such a narcissist
these people can
almost sort of
plot your next move
you know they to know
how he was going to respond
and how enraged he
would get and boy
I'll tell you what I had no energy one way
or the other on Iranian
online
trollers but those guys get an A plus
and for their videos
and the the the shit talking that they're
doing towards the Trump
administration it's very logical and
measured and it's on point and it's
it's it's amazing
so it is propaganda
but it doesn't mean it's false right
that's the same with like the Russia point during the election
general you can't listen to them even though they're telling you the truth
it's it's important to think about that
how funny is it and really maybe this
is an indictment on American culture
and it but Iran
is essentially holding up a mirror to the
American culture they
realized that the best way to
connect with
the the people of America is to make
Lego movies yeah
and show it to them
which which were well done
amazing and most definitely
worked I mean I watched it too and I don't
think I've ever sat through an actual Lego movie
I just was impressed with the tactics so
there's a there's
a variety of battlefields
out there and the digital
battlefield is one of them that propaganda
war is being won by the Iranians
yeah and now there's
other wars that are that are being you know
contested as well but but the propaganda
battle is not going well for
Trump you know he's the boy who
cried wolf so
many times that it's
it's tough I mean it's enough was this going to be
another speech about the beautiful bombs and
the magnificent missiles is this is what we're
going to hear because we're all kind of done with
that like it's it's it's
enough so he
he's got no credibility he has nobody
to blame but himself for that
you know he just has talked
and talked and talked to the point where now
when he has something extremely
important to say he has
to drop F bombs on Easter
to try and get people to listen to him because nobody
takes him seriously anymore he is
the boy who cried
Iran so many times
that nobody just nobody's willing to listen
to him yeah I mean to the point
to where it's like literally within 20 in one
speech he will contradict what he said in the
beginning of the speech or or like I just
quickly showed the screen for the podcast
is the day-to-day you know you have 48
hours and then like then changing that the
next day to another 24 it
just doesn't make any sense you know and so you're right
it is the boy who cried wolf for sure and nobody's
going to take him seriously but you know that the
the what was the other part we were just talking
about I just lost it
well in any case let's talk about the
the oh yes what it was the
there was something around that that was important
I'm forgetting what you did you go into
your point you were going to discuss about the bricks part of it did you want
to get into that more well I just wonder
about how that's going to play out moving
forward because we have this consortium
of countries that are
if you take a look at the bricks plus maps
what one of the things that you'll you'll notice
is that they are all
around maritime choke points I mean it's
very strategic
either either energy producers or they've got
some sort of
geographic advantage
and in the
now you've got a couple of them fighting with each other
Iran who is a member fighting
with the United Arab Emirates blowing up
each other's oil fields and things like that
and infrastructure so I wonder how that's
going to play out in the aftermath of this is
this the wedge that gets
driven in breaks at bricks
you know or maybe gets some people kicked out
or or I don't know maybe they have to reimagine
this as I mentioned Saudi Arabia was on the fence
for that
maybe they've come in
you know maybe in the aftermath they come in and say
oh this is that you know we we were on
the fence because we had this petro dollar
arrangement which is up in flames
and and we always believe that
we would have the American Empire to protect us
which isn't really happening
and yeah we've been letting them use our airspace
but that's just pissing every
one of our neighbors off and we have to live
here after the American Empire is gone
you know and now
our oil fields are on fire and that's a huge
problem so I don't know I don't know what this
how this plays out because
you know maybe maybe there's a
path where you
where you you anybody who is
collaborating with the American Empire
is just out
and they say the UAE you got to go
you know you were on the wrong
side in this one so
I mean wow
good good the UAE
may have zero strategic value
now anyway well especially since
that well that was cutter actually the big
installation but but yeah but I mean a lot
of them are clearly the whole thing is changing
the whole field so the tables being flipped over
at this point and I think that's important to
think about and how it like resettles and the
bricks point is an interesting point to that
is but but you know
I don't I think it's dangerous to see it
as which I know we've talked about before
and I don't believe you see it as like good
versus bad or like you know it's all just more
government and influence at least it's
multi-polar versus what you know but at the
end of the day I feel like it represents a
threat at the same time like it's we shouldn't
jump from one control structure to the
next but you know this is coming from my
anarchistic perspective and I know it's
probably not shared by most people out there
but I hope we can start considering that
we don't need to look for the next ruler
instead let's just let's take a moment
in between them just breathe for a
second you know but it's hard that's
that's kind of how I feel to and I put it in
this as somebody who bartended in my 20s
I sort of put put it in in this
perspective that the American Empire
is essentially like this big
drunken lunatic in the bar
that you want to get him out you know
he's been threatening people at different tables
and and
what you're tempted
to want to do is get
the other that other big guy in the corner
bricks and get him to go punch them
out but then the problem is now you have
two drunken lunatics fighting in your bar
instead of one you know what I mean so
the idea of a multipolar world
initially sounds
good because it sounds like a check on the
other one to kind of keep them in place and
maybe if it is a check
then that's it but it never ends that way
exactly they might
end up working together for all you
know and then you're really in trouble right
they've now clicked up two big groups
and then it's real easy to
make that one step and connect them both
together as opposed to you know starting
from scratch and having to connect 20 on this
side and 20 on this side and then
like so be very careful cheerleading
on a multipolar world when
when it involved because by definition
it involves the grouping
up of countries into
supranational organizations and
if you think it's a good thing now
maybe it is but it could always
become a bad it's more than likely a bad
thing anyway but it's it could
be a bad thing in the future as well
so you have to be careful
of how you choose to
solve the problem
because the solving the American empire
problem with another empire is not the answer
it has to be in my opinion
a means to an end
because look you're not going I mean I guess
it's possible a world in which you just
snap your fingers and all of it goes away but that
would cause a lot of chaos and destabilization
just because people don't know what to do and we've been
guided by the idea that government has to
exist but if you lean into something
like that my argument would be maybe
people disagree that's the next part you should lean into
but you feel it's the right choice
lean into it but with the mindset
that it's only a means to an end that the next
step should be less and less and less
and don't just lean into a small
change that goes right back into the consolidation
of power which is what every government
my entire life has shown me that if you
do say if you give people the authority
eventually other people whether them
themselves or other people around them will
like you're saying the bricks part
some of those groups will suddenly quietly talk
around themselves and go hey let's make deals and
let's work together and let's get this let's
consolidate our power over this group and it
always happens and so if you
like the whole idea of like the
American experiment and if you know if you
believe this was the true mindset and I do
believe there is parts of this that were there
the original idea was about creating this
imperfect thing that it you know as
you know the statement of man or
crooked timber you know that's what we get
and so we have to plan for the fact that it won't
work out the best way and that's why the whole
check and balance system was created it wasn't
perfect it was you know we knew that people
would try to seek power and this is the
best that we could do in that moment it was
on us to maintain that now whatever you
think about that whether they meant it or
not it makes sense that we are in a system
where that the goal should be to diminish
power not collect it not to grow it I
would argue that that should have been a
step towards less control and maybe somebody
you know we that was very possible at that
point but it said it very quickly went to
the other direction it went to the very
thing that the argue that they were trying
to avoid the centralized power the
centralized government and now we're going
from that to more centralized control
governments you know from a global
perspective which is what we've always been
fighting and from a technological standpoint
as well because as we centralized control
you can understand people's argument
that could say well you know these
politicians are such scumbags we keep
catching them doing everything they shut
down the government they can't get anything
done right Lindsey Graham's walking around
Disney World with a magic wand like why don't
we get rid of all these people and replace
them with computers we'll program the
computers to be super compassionate you
know they'll be be fair and and it'll
be you know it'll be like a futuristic
world I mean this they were talking
about this in the early 50s right the
international geophysical years this is
what we'll do that Donald Fagan wrote
a song about it right so so
this is the future that they
that they have been planning for a long
time you know we
could very easily
make a firm
case for getting out of
having these awful
human beings as politicians and then
as the solution walk right
into an even worse trap
with this whole system becoming
automated right and that of course is
where they want to go and I just had Patrick Wood
and Courtney Turner on talking about
about
their new book and in the direction that
things are headed with technocracy and so
I my fear is that
what if
the the big play here is let's
make government so embarrassing
and so incompetent you know
the weft leaders all these young global
leaders that are all
coked up and weird and skinny
and you know awkward and
least you know less impressive than the one
before them and a pipeline of
prime ministers coming through the UK they're just
each one of them is more compromised than
next like what if the goal
is to get us by 2030
to just go we're done
with all these politicians there
you guys are all terrible we need
help we need
Curtis Yarvin to come in and
save us or whatever
you know somebody to come in
and right all these wrongs
and be the good guy
tech wizard the
you know the good Elon Musk
and come in here and fix all
the problems right I can
envision that happening and that would be
happening right now yeah
that's where I think we are
now maybe not the automated everything but maybe
that's I mean I don't even know if that's really the
choice but that seems like a possibility
right but I think that it's a it's that
technocratic world control structure that we're
discussing you know and anyway we've been
discussing that very point for a very long time
you know the the I am like even
going back to the world before this but
there is the moment of Trump that the
lot of the people discussed and I think we talked
about it like in a general sense of our own groups
that it could be that Trump was picked
to bring this down right because
he was the person he was and now that feels a little
bit more likely right now you know that it was like he was
the planned like dropping at his feet
blame Trump for why it all happened and then
use that to roll us into why we need
to change the structure because this is where
it's led which led us to Trump you know it's like it kind of
makes sense you know but in a bigger sense
the idea of the kind of technocratic
transition you know again I think that's
what's happening right now like this right
now the Palantir the attachment
201 the all of this which I do think
there's a bit of a schism between that and what
Zionism is trying to do with the same time
but I think at the end of the day there's a
coordination to that and so I agree with
you I think that this is a dangerous time
where we're watching this transition happen
and using everything we don't want
right where and the Fed and here's
you see we've all talked about this right giving you
the things we don't want to using it to roll you into the next thing
the question is are we going to be able to see that
as a whole before we're inside of it
that's what we're all right yeah yeah
we had in in the Fed
right because that's what we've always wanted
and we finally get to the point where we
in the Fed right at
the time when the Fed was useless anyway
right when they were making the transition
into something else so they give you the victory
you ended the Fed yeah you got it
you know no more of those Federal Reserve
notes is we issue the stable claims
you know and it's like well you actually lost
in the end so I
worry about the victories
that they allow us to have
within that system
that maybe
makes us complacent or makes us feel like
we're going somewhere but we're in
some sort of cul-de-sac that was never going to go
anywhere anyway that I were
especially with the Fed because
there had never been a time
in my life where they even really mentioned
the Fed let alone like yeah well maybe we could
there could be some steps to limit the Fed
or anything like why are you guys talking about
limiting the Fed you know nobody's ever done
that before unless you guys have some sort of plan
to make the Fed
go away but you would make the Fed go away
if it became sort of a
relic of the past and it was no longer
as long as you've got the BIS
in their universal rail system
what do you really need the Fed for
well I think you're right but I would
also argue it might be a combination
of these two things or maybe the one thing I'm
going to say entirely but ultimately
it could be I knew I was going to do this
I do that when I say things like that
BIS oh so the idea of
sort of doing it
that's what it was thank god I hate when I do that
doing it because we saw it
not because necessarily that it was what they wanted
but because it's like okay well
we keep the Fed forever if
it was
continuing its function but I think
and that's what I mean come maybe kind of both
but people are seeing these things right so it's like
at some point they recognize look
we can keep screening you guys are wrong your conspiracy
theorists but if 99.9%
of Americans hypothetically are like the feds bad
we can't we got it
okay they see it we can't put that toothpaste back
in the bottom right so you give them it right
but so that from that
point maybe 10 years ago and now
they've been trying to get themselves to a point to where
they can engineer the transition
from the thing they were always like that's where I would read that
that I think that if something's functioning
they don't really want to change it unless it's in their
interest to and I think that the Fed could have easily
just been transitioned into a technocratic
you know instead they need to bring it down
to just to make us think that we were
successful you know what I mean and that's because we saw
it so it's also kind of the awareness of it all
the release valve point and I think that's
in every conversation today
yeah yeah
yeah but let's let's end
with a point quickly about
technocracy that since we're since we're on
this discussion a little bit which I'm sure you saw
which just kind of brings about right back right back around
to the lies from the administration
really just the government I mean if you're
new to this not I do not think this
is unique to Trump it's pretty prominent
but I think it left and right it's the same
deal but this was about the
border peace point what we talked about
this a couple weeks ago the state the
state department transferred 1.25
billion dollars to the border peace and
it goes on to highlight what it took it from you know a
lot of different things or even the 1.5
trillion dollar budget for military
and the tons of things that will have to
be cancelled from tons of
things by the way that MAGA very much wanted
so it's important to see as well a different point
but this is Catherine
just saying yeah you know Congress has the power to reverse
the money he stole that
Congress authorized to go
to the border peace but they're not
why not you know so just a general point
to wrap up that you know he's stealing billions
it's more than just this one point
from taxpayers to dump
into a personal
border peace that he's chairman
for life with Jared
Kushner, Whitcoff, Tony Blair
a few others
I just I mean and then we just talked
about briefly the point of the border peace and his
you know his 2 billion dollar WHO project
I mean all these different things are another
global entity even the UN called his project
for the border peace aid adjacent security council
you know so this seems to be an obvious
part of this technocratic side of it
but just to end with a point showing you the
lies right but what are your
thoughts of that and how it plays into all this you know how
does Israel play a role in that seeing us out there
kind of not involved even though they are
and it has to do with Gaza but the money's not even going to
Gaza seems crazy a funny
funny how that is right there they're
definitely involved in it
but not responsible
there's no ties to them
we're
at a point where
in the end of empire
you burst into the office expecting everybody
to be having a big meeting
and there's one guy in there and he's stealing
all the candlesticks he's like I'm out of here
and you're just like wait
you guys aren't trying to save it
they're like right no you know so
you they're stealing everything that's
not nailed down in this empire
and that's a that's a bad sign
nobody's doing anything about it there's no
I
when it's when it's Israeli
beneficial when it benefits Israel
in any way shape or form there's never
any sort of outrage about it right when if it's
red team or blue team specific maybe
you'll you'll hear one side push
back but this is the
the unifying factor right as long as
you're you're setting it up to
benefit that group
then you won't be indicted
they won't investigate it you
can steal anything you want you really
and you really can I think
I mean I
don't know that they I don't know that
there's any evidence of anybody ever being
really held accountable for stealing any of
this stuff I mean especially if you're
if you're
Israeli or Jewish then you
have the option to go to Israel
not only is there no accountability you're
quite literally put on a private jet
and flown there so that nobody can get you
so like was that
his name the guy who
was Tom Abramovich was the Israeli
government guy who came here with the intention to
sexually molest children
with the website they got caught and they arrested
him and they just sent him back home
just make sure we don't forget about that
at the same point but there's tons of that Saudi Arabia too
yeah yeah yeah
and I think that that
works both ways
either nobody finds out
about it and that's fine with them
or for those of you
who saw that good I'm glad you saw it
it
internalize that
watch it again because it's
we're gonna do it again and again and again
the next time one of our guys gets caught for
doing something unspeakable we're gonna load
him on a on another plane and fly him
out as well there's nothing you can do about it so
it's like for the general public who's asleep
at the wheel they don't even know it's happening
for those of us who see it
it's almost like a message it's like the
guy who's you know who wants you
to see his face he's like I'm showing you my
face because I don't care what you'll
do you know that is like another
sort of a
humiliation ritual for those of us who are
who are forced to watch this where you go
but you know you guys fight like hell about some
of these things but then there's
quite obvious low-hanging fruit here
of massive rampant fraud
criminality and none of you
people want to look this way but you're gonna go after
me because I had 601 dollars on
Venmo
I mean look at Christy know
you know you can literally get caught in a massive
scandal and you get you fail up
that that I mean
for your analogy the candlesticks is perfect I mean it's
you know everyone is just
absorbing and stealing
and you know and Trump's family is just
brazenly corrupt
by my watches and my shoes and my crypto
if you're right I mean it's just a clown show
right now but you know it's
I don't think that it's completely lost
in the sense of just like even as some
people were talking about like just like hypothetically
let's say this empire dies let's say the
American system just completely it doesn't
mean that the culture disappears
you know it depends there's a different
it's I think we need to consider
is that that might be the best thing
that's ever happened to us
100% when
Berwick and I wrote the control demolition of the
American empire in 2020 we weren't
saying that it was a bad thing
right you know we were what we were saying is
it's not America that goes away
much in the same way that
you know the Soviet Union fell apart
but mother Russia remained right and
and you prioritize that
because you had to get rid of the satellite nations
that you couldn't you couldn't
keep you know you couldn't finance that any longer
right but Russia remains and that's the same
thing with the American empire the thousand military
but well they're already going away
the world's reserve currency
the the our ability to
manipulate people with the World Bank and the
IMF maybe those things are going away but
those things needed to go away right so it's
not the worst thing in the world that the
American empire dies
I think Americans
maybe don't understand that
distinction between the empire and the country
or the people of America
versus what America has become
this war machine and so
there's components of it it's not
being disrespectful and it's not being
you know to the nation or anything
like that to say that the American empire needs
to go away it's the disgusting
side of it it's not what America
it's not the
version of America that you want to project
around the world if you're a good
and decent person this is the
the face of America that drops bombs
on hospitals and schools right
you know and it needs to go away and it's
going to absolutely it is the antithesis
to what we've always been told
that this country is at the very least right so
I agree with the way you frame that it's not because it's not that
that's what it's the you know what we are it's not
I mean this country the government itself
more importantly has never truly in my mind
represented what it's tried to or framed it
as there's a moment where it's possible but
it went the other way you know but what we've always
been told and what Trump and the rest are so
desperately trying to scream is
just self evidently the opposite you know and I
think that is an important moment
so I'm with you and I'm glad that this is
something that people are starting to see that's
why I think that point I continue to bring up that
right now the empire that
is dying is desperately trying to keep
all of us thinking that they're in control
they're the majority it's like the
2008 moment we're like the day before
they're like we're stronger than ever and then the whole thing collapses
you know right and it's like so
we need to think that they want us to think
everyone in MAGA is all
on one side and all the Democrats are
pedophile you know whatever this game is
I don't think that even comes close to
representing most Americans whether or not
they're liberal or conservative and that is
an important thing to see and to end on
your positive note there like you know
think that there could I mean see that there
is a positive path through all this
where we could get rid of the over
you know the empire
and see that we are still here and see that we're
stronger for it in a real sense you know
as a country as a people as a society
as a planet you know
so it didn't reflect us anyway it didn't
reflect our values it wasn't us
it was a it was a it was a monster
that had been created
with in a laboratory
fueled by the Federal Reserve and a bunch
of maniacs that have
different ideas so it's
it's a poor reflection on the American
people anyway so it's the reason
why when we go abroad
people go oh boy Americans
huh you know we know how you guys are
it's like well yes that's our
government not necessarily us as a
as a people so it's been an embarrassing
stain on us for a while
so you know maybe
Trump is maybe Trump was brought
into to be the clown that
that that that
you know that
that brings down the
the the end of the empire
it feels like it I mean
there's still a couple years left or
who knows how much longer he has but
but it feels
like this is how
you would do it
and I and my
other sort of
fear that's
often the distance as well that I can't
get out of my mind is that
what if this is all just a big
distraction
or an excuse that's brewing
to paper over a financial
collapse you know yeah it's out
there sort of on the horizon
waiting to come
coming anyway but
needing a proper excuse
where you can go well you know it wasn't me it was this
there was this whole thing that started the war
and timing it wasn't
our banking system that was
insolvent and running recklessly
no it wasn't that it was it was this
other thing that that happened and coincidentally
the banks went down you know
because of it so I
you know I'm always got got my
eyes open on that too they they wanted
us looking in in in the Middle East which of
course we are but
don't don't forget to keep your eyes on Wall Street as well
yeah I mean you have to consider that
I mean it could be both it could be only that
I mean it's but it's always a possibility you know
there's always multifaceted agendas and people around
it doing their own thing
you know but to the what you might have one final
thought that I want to point out is that the you know
the engineer collapse what we're talking about and me
saying for example this might you know very well be the
best thing that's ever happened to us it's important to
make sure you hear that in its own light
and do not conflate that with
the idea of whether Israel is
collapsing this country because I'm not
saying those are the same what I'm saying is that
you know we might find a way
through this whether it's being engineered or not
that could lead to less government control in our lives
don't understand
in my mind that Israel in doing this is the opposite
it's the mind of that control
blossoming from
their control structure from the technocratic control
structure not the idea of the other way around
but you know I just want to make sure that was clear because
there you could see that
leading through to the same point but I think at the end
of the day however it's happening
we should be leaning in that direction but recognize
there are people trying to weaponize that change
however it's happening you know I just
I mean I could apply it to everything we're talking about today
you know yeah and
and I'll I'm not even really spoiling
the ending of our book but the way Burwick and I
wrapped up the the control demolition
because we we sort of
took you back to the
December 26th 2004
Banda Acha Indonesia
with the tsunami right with the people who walked out
under that beach and there was no water
they looked around they couldn't really make sense
of it right the water was gone it had been
there the ocean was there last night
this morning it wasn't there
the people who had experience and the animals
instinctively went to higher ground
right and and they knew
what was coming and
for the people who didn't know who didn't see
what was coming or wanted to argue with you or wanted
to walk out a half a mile and take a selfie with
the you know
it ended badly for them
for those who recognized it in advance
knew
that they couldn't stop what was coming but they knew
they could get to higher ground
and prevent themselves from getting
walloped by this you know in the
in the aftermath
you know in the aftermath
of these huge events
these these massive
the fourth turnings and these end of empire
situations it's chaotic
of course but there are
amazing opportunities
for people who position themselves
accordingly so I don't want people to ever be
blackpilled about this because the fact
that you know that it's coming
and see it in advance puts you
in a very small percentage of people who
can move out of the way to the extent that you can
maybe that positioning yourself
financially getting your money out of the banks in advance
doing some things differently getting gold
and silver well whatever you're doing you
you start making your your moves
by doing
that you are putting yourself in such
a rare category of people who are
who are prepared for what's
what's coming and not that you want it
not that you ever want the destruction
that's coming this way but if it's coming
and you can't stop it the least you
can do is save yourself and those who will listen to you
and get to high ground in a very
real sense so store you know look
we clearly have some
shipping issues and supply chain
hassles coming our way from the Middle East
whether you we get our oil there or not
it doesn't matter everything is going to be impacted
by that if you don't have
storeable food in advance now
you're just you're you're you're not
taking advantage of this relative calm
right now you know so I think people
who are doing things like that or they're
you know they're preparing
for for the future right now
I think in in their minds
it it's a different trip
it's a different ride than everybody else
who's panic buying toilet paper at the
11th hour and because they saw it
on Fox News you know it's so
for those of us who have the eyes to see it
take advantage of this time of relative calm
and like get your stuff
situated and get sorted out
and do that you'll be
you'll be wishing you could go back to this moment
at some point and do the things you
you knew you should have done so just do it
today you know wise words
well thank you Charlie as always
I enjoy our conversations brother on me too
and I'm hoping people can you know
here here are some of the things we discussed today
because some of the things we talked about today are
you know more abstract and more just
you know not focal political
talking points but just you know the
the sentiment and the change and the
you know the and deeper propagandized
elements you know it's just there's so much going on
you know as always just question at all
right you there's so many people out there
trying to mislead you and trying to get you in certain camps
different governments with different agendas
you know if you just engage with everything coming your way
with the possibility that it could be wrong
for a number of reasons question it to your due diligence
by being open to all the possibilities
you're much much more difficult to play
you know and that's something we both describe to
so please help yourself in that way
so thank you Charlie and I'm looking forward
to the next one as always everybody out
there question everything come to your own conclusions
stay vigilant