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control exactly what people think and that is our job.

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What the hell is happening? What the hell is happening?

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What's going on in this world?

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Our power formula.

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The world is our standard.

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What the hell is happening?

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What the hell is happening?

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The propaganda was the best on the planet.

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We're going to develop this.

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What the hell?

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It's happening.

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It's already happening.

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The madness of the news cycle.

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Spitting the wheel of chaos.

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What the hell is happening?

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Monday, April 6, 2026.

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Welcome to another episode of What the Hell is Happening

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with Charlie Robinson and myself

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to discuss, you know, what the hell is going on in the world.

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The madness that is every cycle

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and all the converging events and all the manipulation

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and all the constant propaganda.

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How are you, Charlie?

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I'm great. How are you? Happy Easter.

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Thank you.

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Honestly, a lot of positive things going on.

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I recently got some chickens

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and our garden is doing well

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and the world outside of the media cycle

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seems to be pretty common normal.

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It's important to remember that too

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because we can get ourselves kind of

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all worked up about these events

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and we should be aware of them for sure.

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But if it starts to impact

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our physical health or our mental health

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or makes us difficult to be around

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because we're brooding and, you know,

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I don't think that that's beneficial either.

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So hopefully we can find that balance

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between being informed

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without being inundated

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and being overwhelmed by this.

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Yeah, I agree.

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I mean, that's something I often point out about the,

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like being in this field and being aware,

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for example, of, you know,

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just to go to the far part with it,

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you know, like things like a target individual

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which are very real conversations despite the fact

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that there's a lot of people in that

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that can't be verified or people that I think

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might be misled or whatever,

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but the things that we know exist

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to the smaller degree like surveillance, you know,

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or, you know, whatever, that these are real things.

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And so, but the point being is that

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even though we know it exists

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and even to the degree that we know it exists

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and overlaps with people in the field

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and doing what we're doing about whether

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that's being censored or suppressed or surveilled,

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it's never in your interest to assume

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it's always what's happening.

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Like it will make you go crazy

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if in every shadow, everything happening,

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you jump that go, oh, they're attacking me,

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they're censoring me, they're doing that even though

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it maybe is the case, if you think that

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you're going to go crazy, you know,

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and it's like, it's something that I often tell myself

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because it's easy to fall into that,

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just because, you know, you have to try to,

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you know, the point is if everything's always

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against you and everything's always bad

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and everything's always an enemy, then that's

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how you live your life and that's not happy.

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And I don't believe that is the full picture, right?

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I don't believe that's all of it, you know,

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but again, even if it is, try to find

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some light in there, you know, but

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right now with what's going on with

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the Iran conversation and everything else

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with the COVID-19 change we saw

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with people starting to see things they haven't done,

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us talking about this quite often, you know,

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I wanted to start with a point today about

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the awareness of all of this,

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which I kind of think we can all just acknowledge

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that that's the cat's out of the bag, right?

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I feel like we've been hinting it like,

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do you think this has, you know,

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what do you think about the amount of people

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that are seeing things or not?

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But let me play this clip and, you know, funny,

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it's just a basic guy saying things we've all said,

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but for some reason it's getting a lot of reach

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and it just, it's, you know, kind of come to Jesus' meeting.

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Like, you were played, it's okay, we know it, right?

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That's where I think we are right now

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and then we can talk about it.

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You didn't get a wall,

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you didn't get any arrests,

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you didn't get drain the swamp

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or America first,

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you didn't get any infrastructure,

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no $5,000 dose check,

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you didn't eliminate any national debt

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or get any help buying a new home

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or help with lower grocery prices

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or gas prices.

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I mean, it's quite the opposite, in fact.

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You didn't get a $2,000

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stimulus check

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or affordable healthcare

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or any accountability

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for the Epstein files,

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which he promised when he said he was going to

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release them all to the public

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and you damn sure didn't get any

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no more wars.

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Now,

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what you got was conned

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and you're too fucking embarrassed

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to admit it.

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You know, probably because

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I think the point, I can't confirm it

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but I think the point is that the guy is,

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you know, a MAGA influencer himself

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or at least influential in that community

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and so him saying it has more meaning

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but you know, it's just kind of a,

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you know, you were played kind of a,

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you know, it's and I don't know.

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What do you, what do you think from that?

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Why do you think it's getting influenced?

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Q2, electric boogaloo.

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This is the same thing I said about the Q people.

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You guys got played. There's no shame in it, right?

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It happens to everyone, you know,

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as long as it's the only time it happens to you

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but you need to recognize

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what you were told, why you believed it

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and then you need to be honest

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that he didn't deliver on it.

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He didn't deliver on it the first time around either.

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That's why part of the reason why we kept saying

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hey, you guys who are like

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say this time is going to be different

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like what part of the equation leads you

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to believe that?

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So if you're still

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in denial, you're never going to

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you're never going to get anywhere.

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So I think that maybe the first step, you know

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whether it's an addiction or

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or you got duped with Donald Trump

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or you got caught playing three-card Monty

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you just need to admit that you

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you've been had

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happens to everybody, right?

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It just on different levels

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where you compound it

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is if you're unwilling or unable to admit

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that you were wrong.

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That this happened and you say no, no, no

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it's the arrests are actually coming

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what you don't understand guys is that

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there's patriots are in control

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and you just go, no man

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none of that is actually happening

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this is all a carefully

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choreographed presentation

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delivered to you to make you feel a certain way

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but none of that stuff is happening

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and the sooner you recognize this

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the better off your life will be

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and so I may not come out of the anarchist camp

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they're like

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red team, blue team

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which team we got to get them in the midterms

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we're like, we passed that

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maybe people need to

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the next conversation

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is going to be well

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I guess

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we just need to really buckle down

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for the midterms then

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and it's going to be like

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you're not understanding

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what's happening here

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this is all beyond

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elections you're in the back

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seat with the kids steering wheel

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thinking that you're driving the car

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that's what's happening in reality here

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and maybe

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people who are willing to acknowledge

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that I think

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the short term

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pain and frustration

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and embarrassment of being duped

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by that

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will be

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offset by the long term

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benefits of just no longer

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believing this fairy tale

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that you're going to vote your way out of this situation

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you're just not going to

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and I think that this is going to

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everyone gets a little wake up call

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if they have the eyes to see it

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maybe for a new batch of MAGA people

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this will be it for them

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I certainly hope so

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I do think it's been an evolving scenario

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but I think that

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it's not

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it's partly an illusion

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what we're seeing is this

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awakening that's been happening for a long time

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and I think we talked about that was a Q thing

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there's been all these different levels

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and trips and mindset

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to try to stop people

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and I think we're at a point now where they're just going okay

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it's happening

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people are changing and I think that's what we come around

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to the conversation about why they're trying to

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rush to put together the next kind of control structure

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before we all wake up and realize we're

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just about to step out of the first one

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or however you look at that

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so this is where this next part comes into play

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which I find really interesting

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and all this is based on opinion

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other than the points we can prove

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we're trying to kind of read how it all fits together

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so make sure you understand that

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but to me this is a really interesting addition to this

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I think this is

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so at one point you could have argued it was

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completely shut down and controlled

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but as we're discussing people are starting to see it

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and wake up and pull out of the illusion

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and so I think what this is

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was one of these efforts to keep that

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lid on it or at least

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or at least a lid on it or try to drive them back into it

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Jenna's girl pointed this out

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and

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this was

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Nate Silver's the one that actually did the research

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I was going to say it didn't pop up that'd be funny

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it says these are the Twitter X accounts

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with the most engagement so far in 2026

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I suppose I had some intuition for how bad it was

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but jeez this is what you get

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when an ecosystem is broken

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and it's that you know

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it proves you to go through and look at the actual

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all of it but what's really crazy to me

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is just to look at this game

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and what we're talking about is

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first of all the awareness of the

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seeing that you were conned from Trump's

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position the government at large

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not left or right if you understand it

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but that you were played and lied to about what was going to happen

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then you got all the Nick Sorters

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Wall Street Apes and Eric Dowderdies

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and Eagle Gunthermans and all these people

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captured with the massive

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50-100 million people influence

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who then just carry the to and toe the line

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and so that's not honest right

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because we've come to see that they are just

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a joke today they're being made fun of by their own people

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where ultimately now the point is

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they just cheer like the red light

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holy crap guys I've come to call them now

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because every red light holy crap and they just repeat

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what they're saying and I think that's being seen

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so my point in all that is that this was an effort

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and an example of the controlling

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narrative with the AI algorithmic

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on edition right so this

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was an this was an ability to stop people

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from being able to see that it

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wasn't the majority if you get what I'm saying

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you know and this is still in there for a lot of people

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because they think that represents the massive

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you know the amount of the conversation that is the majority

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and we'll come in and say something that proves them wrong

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and yet you get the Elon Musk and the rest of them

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to stand up overshadow that

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growing awareness you know and like

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I wonder if this is the end of

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organic reach or maybe it's already happened

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you know what do you mean

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all this your whole

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feed is curated to match

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you you know you hand somebody else

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your your phone and or you swap

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phones with them it's like living in a different

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dimension where

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where everybody's your social

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you know depending on what you're into it's

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these people be served up to you but

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but the

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the Israeli flags on it I think

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is helpful here

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we get these accounts

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I mean I don't subscribe to any of them

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I don't follow even on the for you tab

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or the subscribed whichever one

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I get these people shoved into my face

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and it's not because they were shared by somebody I follow

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like that's a whole other angle to it though

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right so it's just being jammed into your face

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and that's not whether you follow them or not

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you know so that speaks to something that's independent

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of what was already a control structure

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that's like the Israel Zionism influence I guess

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or that's how I would look at it

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and then that proves that it's narrative management

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because if it were really about

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you the person

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those those

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circles there would be all your best friends

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they'd be the people who you interact

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with the most they'd be the people who stuff

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you're looking at but they're not

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I don't subscribe to any I don't

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follow any of those people they are forced

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fed I see their post against

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my will and so

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that tells me

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that that is being done on purpose because I

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don't see the people who I want to see

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who I'm following

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I never see them

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but I can't help

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but see the people who I'm not following so

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yeah the cat turds

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of the world and people like that so

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but maybe this is

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maybe for some people

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who are new to this they need to see it

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they need to

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experience this for themselves

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to go oh yeah you know I know you guys

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were always kind of complaining about how

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rigged social media is but now I get it

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yeah when I see five

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different accounts tweeting out the exact same

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thing that's obviously

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coordination so they're not even

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maybe real people so

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what is happening here well the maga voice

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one that one actually got exposed that's one of the biggest

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accounts that circle as a complete

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like after trip account there's like six versions

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of it they're all connected the same but it doesn't even

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stop that this is the whole point that awareness

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even in the republican side of it doesn't slow

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the growth of these accounts so it's artificial

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you know and I'm not going to say there's not people that support them

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I think there's like an ecosystem of

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people that have just decided to support anything

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with a patriot flag or a maga thing next to

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it as a default right but that's

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still not the majority in my opinion you know so

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it just speaks to this alarming thing that's happening

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that goes beyond what was already

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happening which is an influence propaganda

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effort to control our mind but this goes

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well beyond that and I was actually just talking

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with Patrick about this this comes to the point of this

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kind of like Armageddon push

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you know telling the truth we're fighting for Armageddon

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with this weird Zionist religious

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push coming through our government you know

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to the point to where we should be wondering whether

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that's even our government at this point you know

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it's it's an alarming point

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their ability or desire to

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make the minority appear to be

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the majority

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pulls me into those psychological

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videos that they showed

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from like the 60s and 70s

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where they have you know where the guy gets in the elevator

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and everybody else in the elevator is facing the other

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direction and guy doesn't know what to do so he

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turns around faces the other direction too

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you know that they know how to

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can you know to

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to manipulate people and they know that it doesn't

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really require necessarily

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51% but they've got those

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numbers so if they can make that minority

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appear to be

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everybody in the elevator looking

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at the back wall next thing

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you know you turn around look at the back wall too

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and then because they know that about they know that

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about us that we don't even know about ourselves

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or that we're in oh that would never happen to me

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you know next thing you know you're in

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the elevator so so I think that there's

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there's a psychological there's obviously

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like a tavastock component to this that

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that knows how to

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knows that you know maybe

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sirens holy crap

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is exactly the way you get people

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you know what I mean

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it's got it's got to have tested well

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if it's there

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it's I mean it's it is a like I because

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you nailed it like that is a it's

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it's it's weird you can call it out like it

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shifts between that and like holy smokes and you'll

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see them all Jesse Waters and like this

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repetitive so there's something feeding that

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whether they know it's being you know they're just being

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told or so but there's something that's deciding

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that is somehow getting the best reach so it

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gets emulated and it's just such a weird

14:48.300 --> 14:50.320
artificial thing that just takes over the entire

14:50.320 --> 14:52.720
conversation you know but it's it is

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it to the point about the elevator

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thing you know what it's interesting to me

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is so let's put ourselves in that position

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if you and I walked into an elevator

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and it wasn't any wasn't like some politicized

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thing you just walk in you're going to an appointment

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and you step in the elevator and people face

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the other way you know we very well might

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just turn around maybe because we think though the door might be on the other side

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like and that's the point though

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it's it's about the be unaware of the

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influence but if you and I were to step into

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this elevator and it was just somehow clear

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that these people had a certain political inclination

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you and I probably go fuck that we're going to

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oh I should have cussed it was going to face it away

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by their opinions but it's not

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knowing that you're being influenced that makes

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that effective if you get my point yeah

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yeah and

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we all think that we're

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you know somehow above it

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and that we can't be manipulated which

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which I think actually makes us

15:39.960 --> 15:42.240
more susceptible to because I think we have to

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be you know honest

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to that we are

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being manipulated it's a matter of degree

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and if you're aware of it you know the tactics

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like you you're more you're more inclined

15:52.480 --> 15:54.540
to to avoid it or say oh

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boy I feel like there

15:56.180 --> 15:58.420
like I was getting for a while I my social

15:58.420 --> 16:00.000
media feed was nothing but

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large groups of black kids

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black guys beating up

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one white kid who walked in the wrong neighborhood

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or was getting beat up at school was getting

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shown that over and over and over

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and over again and and

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and then it's one of those things it's like well you can't

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help but kind of watch it because it's being served

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to you and then it's like oh you like that you're watching it

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here's more of that thing that you're like I'm not trying

16:19.880 --> 16:21.840
to watch it I'm trying to recognize

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that I'm being served this so

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I'm like hyper aware

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of it and so I feel like oh well maybe it won't

16:28.140 --> 16:29.940
have that impact on me too much but

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but still it

16:31.900 --> 16:33.820
you know it will you know it does on some

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some level right well it's it's sort of a point

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of like like like I've said

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in the past just a personal point you know that

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the biggest flaw is to pretend that you have none

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everybody has something that they're you know and

16:43.920 --> 16:45.300
so it's same kind of point right is that

16:45.300 --> 16:47.960
you pretend that you're just not able to manipulate

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it probably means you're more manipulated than

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anybody right it's that's kind of the idea of the

16:51.560 --> 16:53.700
fools and fanatics right well all are always so sure

16:53.700 --> 16:55.300
of themselves well while they're men why is there

16:55.300 --> 16:57.620
men full of doubts you know it's they all it's

16:57.620 --> 16:59.980
the false certainty but it's so it's important

16:59.980 --> 17:02.140
to steal yourself to that we'll all

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we get lost at something you know we like

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we point out there's a jet there's if we do

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what what we all do in this you know the

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questioning everything we're very careful to

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consider different possibilities it's much

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much it's much less likely but still can

17:14.360 --> 17:16.080
happen but if you're the kind of person

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who's being led by the nose by certain

17:18.000 --> 17:19.600
commentators well then it's going to happen

17:19.600 --> 17:21.780
every other day but hey if you're still

17:21.780 --> 17:23.560
questioning it you'll find your way back but

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it's about that starting point you know so

17:25.860 --> 17:27.500
let's talk about Iran

17:27.500 --> 17:29.160
and this in this kind of a

17:29.160 --> 17:31.400
framing right and how the propaganda

17:31.400 --> 17:33.620
around this is just getting insane so I

17:33.620 --> 17:35.740
want to carry over from the partisan

17:35.740 --> 17:37.580
side of it which this guy man

17:38.320 --> 17:39.580
it's it's it's this is

17:39.580 --> 17:41.360
exactly the point that hit Mario

17:41.360 --> 17:43.320
Nafal just comes out of nowhere and it's

17:43.320 --> 17:45.460
like this right hand influencer category to

17:45.460 --> 17:47.460
Elon Musk and it's hosting

17:47.460 --> 17:49.020
all these things and with all these you know

17:49.020 --> 17:51.260
it's yet it seems roundly

17:51.260 --> 17:53.060
criticized by almost everybody like

17:53.060 --> 17:55.200
even people that are sort of on his side

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half the time right and so in this

17:56.840 --> 17:58.240
like there was another one he just put out

17:58.240 --> 18:00.260
by basically saying you know that if Iran

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doesn't basically bow to US interest then

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it'll become the aggressor and everybody

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was making fun of him you know it's like

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that's the stupidest opinion so it's

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it's coming out right now people are

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starting and others are feeling I think

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confident enough to make the case who

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worked before but here's what he put out

18:15.760 --> 18:18.100
it says Q&A with Trump saying how

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would it how would it not be a war crime

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to strike strike Iran's bridges and

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power plants and Trump says well they're

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animals and I just think it's like how

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did we get here how do they become so

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clear

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does he not is he not aware does he not

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have advisers around him they're going

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whoa man like you're not supposed to say

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that part of it you know I don't know but

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let's watch this so we can discuss it

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Mr. President how would it not be

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a war crime to strike Iran's bridges

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and power plants because they killed

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45,000 people in the last

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month more than that

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could be as much as 60

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they killed protesters they're

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animals and we have to

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stop them and we can't let them have a

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nuclear weapon very simple they want a

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nuclear weapon they've been trying for a long time

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I stopped them with the Obama

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horrible Iran nuclear deal

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I stopped them a lot of different

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ways so

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oops sorry about

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that wrong button

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and so I mean you've probably seen the discussions

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of you know I mean we and we already

19:15.340 --> 19:17.560
reported this all of us they armed the protesters

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now trumps come out and just publicly admitted

19:19.380 --> 19:21.180
that we already knew it but so

19:21.180 --> 19:23.220
how you know it's you can't pretend that

19:23.220 --> 19:25.200
this was not an armed invasion and all the

19:25.200 --> 19:26.560
even the numbers are beefed but

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I just don't get why he's not being more

19:28.660 --> 19:30.940
tactful with all this unless it's my design what do you think

19:31.520 --> 19:32.920
does it can he be

19:32.920 --> 19:34.580
is he capable of it

19:34.580 --> 19:36.920
I've seen him I've seen him is playing you know

19:36.920 --> 19:38.700
I mean look at the selection processes or whatever

19:38.700 --> 19:40.680
else like I think he could be more tactful

19:41.780 --> 19:42.800
he must be under

19:42.800 --> 19:43.780
immense pressure

19:44.500 --> 19:46.340
there must be somebody in his ear

19:46.340 --> 19:48.320
saying this is not going well

19:48.320 --> 19:50.820
you know they you watch

19:50.820 --> 19:52.900
what they did to Kristi Noem

19:52.900 --> 19:54.600
right they made her dance

19:54.600 --> 19:56.560
and sing and jump through hoops and in the end

19:56.560 --> 19:58.780
they use the blackmail evidence

19:58.780 --> 20:00.740
on her anyway on our way out

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the door they don't care there's no loyalty

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here I don't know why he thinks he's going to be able to

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to keep these monsters off of him if they're

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if they're actually trying to make if

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Trump is being manipulated as people believe

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into doing something against his will

20:14.140 --> 20:16.960
you know at what point do we

20:16.960 --> 20:17.880
recognize that

20:19.320 --> 20:20.880
this is his this is

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in his will as well I don't know that

20:22.960 --> 20:24.720
this is being done against his will

20:24.720 --> 20:27.060
any longer that's it because this is an important

20:27.060 --> 20:29.040
part of this this came out right in I think

20:29.040 --> 20:30.820
the first example that it was like owned

20:30.820 --> 20:32.820
to a degree by the side that was trying to deny it

20:32.820 --> 20:34.840
was when Rubio comes out and says well we had

20:34.840 --> 20:36.480
to because Israel is going to nuke Iran and then we

20:36.480 --> 20:38.800
we were like well that's what we've been

20:38.800 --> 20:40.800
saying and a lot of the right basically grabbed

20:40.800 --> 20:42.380
that to make the argument that it showed

20:42.380 --> 20:44.320
Trump wasn't responsible because they didn't want

20:44.320 --> 20:46.500
that to be the case right and yet it's

20:46.500 --> 20:48.820
it opened that door that I can't like

20:48.820 --> 20:50.540
we've all been showing has can't be shut again

20:50.540 --> 20:52.620
is that well now you can see that Israel is

20:52.620 --> 20:54.720
alarmingly influencing policy and that's

20:54.720 --> 20:56.600
been spinning out of control but you know it's

20:56.600 --> 20:58.740
it's yeah I don't know it comes down

20:58.740 --> 21:00.620
to this point where you wonder

21:00.620 --> 21:02.740
what's really driving the bus you know what's

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really in control of it it comes back that larger

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point of the conversation I don't know I mean

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it depends on what you think

21:08.180 --> 21:10.640
is actually you know it is the

21:10.640 --> 21:12.320
religious side of this driving the agenda

21:12.320 --> 21:14.460
or is the technocratic side of this is it

21:14.460 --> 21:16.140
a part of both I think it makes a difference

21:16.140 --> 21:18.420
on what you see driving the outcome you

21:18.420 --> 21:20.220
know sure if the

21:20.220 --> 21:22.520
if the outcome if we

21:22.520 --> 21:24.200
work backwards we find out what the outcome

21:24.200 --> 21:26.440
is and then we figure out how and they

21:26.440 --> 21:28.480
make it happen what if the outcome is

21:28.480 --> 21:29.180
global famine

21:30.680 --> 21:32.520
because that or energy

21:32.520 --> 21:34.460
lockdowns or both yeah you know

21:34.460 --> 21:36.480
because it where we're here thinking

21:36.480 --> 21:38.080
it's Israel versus Iran

21:38.600 --> 21:40.540
and of course it is in a set in a

21:40.540 --> 21:41.980
in a in a very real sense but

21:42.700 --> 21:44.300
what if that's the sideshow

21:44.300 --> 21:46.540
what if the ultimate goal is the aftermath

21:46.540 --> 21:48.420
of this you know because in the aftermath of

21:48.420 --> 21:50.660
all these world wars what do we get

21:50.660 --> 21:52.340
we get the League of Nations or we get

21:52.340 --> 21:53.820
the United Nations or we get

21:54.320 --> 21:56.620
some world governing but like

21:56.620 --> 21:58.500
board of peace is that

21:58.500 --> 22:00.320
what angling to be the

22:00.320 --> 22:02.560
the the next United Nations

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in the aftermath of world war three I mean

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you you the war is one

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thing the rules that are made

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in the aftermath of the war is something

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else entirely

22:12.620 --> 22:14.620
yeah I mean it seems

22:14.620 --> 22:16.500
clear that that is what this comes down to

22:16.500 --> 22:18.660
some kind of a reorganization

22:18.660 --> 22:20.600
of the plan and I

22:20.600 --> 22:22.520
think a lot of this kind of stuff right here is just to get

22:22.520 --> 22:24.700
people to not pay attention to that you know what's really

22:24.700 --> 22:26.500
what's really the driving force behind

22:26.500 --> 22:28.640
this because I mean Trump is utterly drowning

22:28.640 --> 22:30.440
in the lies right now like just in

22:30.440 --> 22:32.800
in a spectacular way just continually

22:32.800 --> 22:34.340
doing things that contradict

22:34.340 --> 22:36.500
what he said the day before and back to

22:36.500 --> 22:38.260
you what you're saying is that you know I mean I've seen him

22:38.260 --> 22:40.100
be a little bit you know at least be more

22:40.100 --> 22:42.420
maybe it's his age we shouldn't shy

22:42.420 --> 22:44.220
away from that possibility he is old but

22:44.220 --> 22:46.140
there's something else to it you know it's like

22:46.140 --> 22:48.440
this is where I pulled like that's why I was talking

22:48.440 --> 22:50.620
about the larger conversation is I can't

22:50.620 --> 22:52.260
help but see this as something beyond

22:52.260 --> 22:54.600
what Trump is as a personality

22:54.600 --> 22:56.340
you know because we've seen his hubris

22:56.340 --> 22:58.500
drive him we've seen his narcissism and yet

22:58.500 --> 23:00.540
somehow he's ways if the mindset

23:00.540 --> 23:02.440
is that he's the one in control that it ultimately

23:02.440 --> 23:04.600
is him making himself look that stupid but

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into your to your point earlier I think it's both

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I think it is a little bit of both I think

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that Trump clearly is involved with this

23:10.460 --> 23:12.480
so pretending like he's not responsible is

23:12.480 --> 23:14.840
is just I think is lost

23:14.840 --> 23:16.780
but I think we can

23:16.780 --> 23:18.560
tell me what you think do you think there's examples

23:18.560 --> 23:20.020
of Israel like

23:20.620 --> 23:22.340
let's just either say controlling or

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through manipulation getting what they want and

23:24.620 --> 23:26.520
then having Trump not acknowledge that you think

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that's happening oh I think

23:28.100 --> 23:30.020
it's both I mean I think

23:30.020 --> 23:32.520
that I think that Trump is willing

23:32.520 --> 23:34.380
to go so far and I think

23:34.380 --> 23:36.300
Israel demands him to go further

23:36.300 --> 23:38.500
I don't think there's ever a line

23:38.500 --> 23:39.860
in the sand that they won't cross

23:40.360 --> 23:41.980
maybe Trump has his

23:42.400 --> 23:44.520
lines in the sand here and there but

23:44.520 --> 23:45.720
at this point

23:46.220 --> 23:48.580
he waves his right to say

23:48.580 --> 23:50.280
oh I was an unwilling participant

23:50.280 --> 23:52.120
in this because he's

23:52.120 --> 23:54.440
been at it for a while and his behavior in the

23:54.440 --> 23:56.520
aftermath he doesn't look like a hostage

23:56.520 --> 23:57.980
he looks like a willing participant

23:57.980 --> 23:59.780
right right so

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I mean maybe Marco Rubio

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in that

24:04.640 --> 24:06.280
hostage statement or whatever

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it was that he when he announced that

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Israel was was going to hit them

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anyway

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that maybe seemed

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a little bit more like a cry for help

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please don't murder me

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you know sort of thing but

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what Trump's been saying

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in the aftermath of it he

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if it's all an act he's been playing the villain

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perfectly then because

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we're at a point now where

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you know I get it that

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maybe Israel has some sort of prophecy

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where they need the world to absolutely

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positively hate them

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but we don't

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as America

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we're not guided by that prophecy

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why are you trying to get the world to hate us you know why

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because what we're doing right now

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is hateable

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and

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and we're getting dragged into this because of our

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hypochondriac cousin in the Middle East

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who's who makes it this way

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and has the goods on

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our government on our on the top levels of our

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government I think I think the Epstein

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files now make a lot more sense to people

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who are kind of like what is this Epstein

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they're going oh you can start wars

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with them yeah

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you can you can you can manipulate

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policy of other governments with them

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you know like it's a control mechanism

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you know and so but the other part

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of it too is this lie that people are

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undeniably seeing now that this was in any way

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some kind of humanitarian effort I mean

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that will just be real of all the lies

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that one was very difficult to sell from the

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onset I think Americans have been very

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clear of what you know it's I think that was

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out of the bag a long time ago but to some people

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they still want to fight for or maybe they thought

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Trump be the one to bring it back to the

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glory whatever right but to start

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this as we're saving the Iranian people

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it was just hard to swallow in the beginning

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but so now that's not even being like

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they're just they're kicking that away like it's not even trying

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here here's no engage with the media asking this

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question and to understand this the

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bigger picture to point even Epstein you bring

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up is there's clearly a larger agenda that

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this was all tied to individual interest

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of the US government Israeli government but

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this was something larger greater Israel

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technocracy who's to say but it was never

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about the Iran

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let me just tell you let me just tell you

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very fair question

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the Iranian people

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when they don't hear bombs go

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well they're upset

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they want to hear bombs because they want

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to be free and the only reason they're

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now protesting you know that

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is because they were informed that if

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they protest like the wrestler

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and his friends if they protest

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they will be shot immediately

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and that's an edict that's

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in writing if they protest

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they go out in the streets they

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will be immediately shot

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they don't have guns you know we sent

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some guns but the group

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that was supposed to give which I said

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what happened to my people I said it I

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called it exactly we sent guns

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not a guns they were

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supposed to go to the people so they could fight

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back against these thugs you know what happened

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the people that they sent them to

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who kept them because they said

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what a beautiful gun I think I'll keep it

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so I'm very upset with a certain

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group of people and they're going to pay a big price

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for that I'm sorry to laugh at that

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what is why can't we just

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collectively make fun of this person like that's

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just the other beautiful guns I'll just keep the guns

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because you know it's like he just makes things

27:25.700 --> 27:27.600
up about everything he talks about it's

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mind-blowing to me how we can't just be real about

27:29.760 --> 27:31.720
that anyway to the point what are you talking about

27:32.240 --> 27:34.080
his spoken word album is shitty

27:36.220 --> 27:39.920
I feel like William Shatner doing

27:39.920 --> 27:42.100
Rocket Man from the 70s

27:42.700 --> 27:43.140
perfect

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and I mean it's I don't know it's

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just you know it's this kind of collective psychosis

27:47.800 --> 27:50.000
like this willful delusion that we all just pretend

27:50.000 --> 27:51.640
I mean even people like

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they pretend to hate him it's often don't

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really go into anyway you know it's

27:56.040 --> 27:57.740
just it's something worth getting into because it's like

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we all know but don't talk about it but the

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interesting part of this though is obviously

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the first conversation of you know

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what about the Iranian people who you with oh you're crazy

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like for a little bit of an issue that

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question even matters but that's the whole point we started

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it on but then that you admit

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that you armed like so your argument

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is that we tried to arm the protesters

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but didn't so it's almost like he admits

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that it would have been a crime but we didn't actually

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do it because these people took it

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and what he means is the Kurds that's because

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he's already made that case I don't let and

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this is the reality of this at the end of the day is

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that you know that we and we actually don't think I have it

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I do here that the Kurds

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were that was a public discussion right that came

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out through Israel

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all on my screen is a

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oh that's right sorry it was freezing on me

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Trump pragmatically changes course

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has no interest in Kurdish offensive even though

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it was literally already happening right and

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Kurds could begin ground operation

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Iran within days after secretly armed by

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us for months

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right you know so the game becomes that he

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gave them to the protesters but that wasn't

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supposed to be the argument it was supposed to be that we armed the Kurds

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because that was the public discussion because you

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could argue that was a an allied group

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not a proxy so I don't get if he's

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confused about what he thinks he's trying to relay

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here or he's just off the cuff and he wants to

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be like I was right I called it you know I don't know

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Kurds

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it doesn't matter to me it doesn't matter Ryan

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we're going to put him down like dogs

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it's still crazy

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it's in the empire it's a fourth

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turning it's a clown show

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it's you know it's

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it's what

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Carlin said born into this world

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ticket to the circus born in America

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front row seat

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yeah you know so

29:35.860 --> 29:37.900
the point though is that to make sure people

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remember understand that they're admitting this to

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the point where now the evolution of it's

29:41.960 --> 29:44.200
changing where it's well he did it and tried

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didn't happen and he's over here and verse

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saying why didn't want that to happen with the Kurds

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so this I think this is trying desperately

29:49.980 --> 29:52.040
to build some sort of a barrier between him

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and the obvious crime they're taking place

29:53.940 --> 29:55.900
you know whatever that looks like but

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you are these protesters and I think that has

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to be acknowledged because that means that

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this was not I mean we know

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must Pompeo admitted that

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it real and Massad openly stated

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they had people on the ground arming

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protesters so how is this not an armed

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invasion it is

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it is you had you were

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just speaking to Patrick Kenyansen I caught him

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in Mexico

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right as he was getting to the hotel coming

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in from Tehran he had been there during

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the protests and in the aftermath of it to

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find out what was going on I said well

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what was it they kill 50,000

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protesters he said no

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they didn't do any of that stuff I don't

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know it's like it was the exact opposite of

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course no surprise

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but I think you know my fear

30:37.780 --> 30:40.020
so Trump is now trying to you know

30:40.020 --> 30:40.860
at first he was saying

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well we've got to liberate the

30:43.820 --> 30:45.240
Iranian people right like

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like he cares about the people right

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but in that didn't work and that wasn't

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much of a sales pitch but you've got to have

30:51.760 --> 30:53.480
a sales pitch for

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the American public to justify

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the war you have to you have to have

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a USS Maddox

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or you've got to have 911 or you've got

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to have a reason you've got to have something

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if you just have this well you know they're

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bad bad guys there or aluminum

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tubes like we did in Iraq I mean

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it's hard to generate

31:11.540 --> 31:13.720
it's hard to rally around

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the flag but

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what if you rally around the

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false flag that is my fear

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for what's that

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this the direction this could go

31:23.920 --> 31:25.540
because there's no

31:25.540 --> 31:27.600
there's no real support

31:27.600 --> 31:29.600
for this war from

31:29.600 --> 31:31.660
the general public and nobody

31:31.660 --> 31:33.820
has there's no clearly defined

31:33.820 --> 31:35.340
goals for the war

31:35.340 --> 31:37.660
everyone pretty much understands that

31:37.660 --> 31:39.640
it's probably Israel that wants it more

31:39.640 --> 31:41.560
so than us you know even just the casual

31:41.560 --> 31:43.520
fans so if you're going to get

31:43.520 --> 31:45.720
people to actually support a much bigger

31:45.720 --> 31:47.260
war you're going to have to have something

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happen and and and I

31:49.820 --> 31:51.340
I don't I'm not trying to

31:51.340 --> 31:53.360
speak that into existence or give these

31:53.360 --> 31:55.220
lunatics any ideas but they know that

31:55.220 --> 31:57.320
you know they know that this is a

31:57.320 --> 31:58.680
situation that calls for

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a false flag

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well it calls for an event

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to galvanize the public and

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in the absence of an organic one

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then plan B is the false flag

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so if they're sitting around waiting

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for the Iranians to light up a bomb

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in Times Square I mean they'll be waiting a long

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time for that but if you want

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someone else to pretend to be the Iranians doing it

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well then I've my guess is that's probably

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on the drawing board somewhere right now

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and at some point they do another

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poll and find out that the this war

32:26.360 --> 32:28.180
is even more unpopular than

32:28.180 --> 32:30.420
Vietnam you know was

32:30.420 --> 32:30.900
or whatever

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maybe maybe the bombs start going

32:34.260 --> 32:35.920
off or something like that so

32:35.920 --> 32:38.600
that's my real fear of this is that it does

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because I don't know that this war is just going to

32:40.340 --> 32:40.960
fizzle out

32:42.520 --> 32:44.380
yeah I don't think so I mean I think

32:44.380 --> 32:46.160
where we're at is a point where Iran has

32:46.160 --> 32:48.400
very strategically put them on their back foot

32:48.400 --> 32:50.260
despite all the screaming and capital letters

32:50.260 --> 32:51.740
and it's just it's obviously not what's

32:51.740 --> 32:53.900
the reality that the U.S. is somehow dominating

32:53.900 --> 32:56.060
everything and you know you can't lie

32:56.060 --> 32:58.060
every day and say obliterated destroyed no

32:58.060 --> 32:59.980
power they're learning out of web missiles and just

32:59.980 --> 33:02.020
every single day be proven wrong before you just

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laugh at these people you know and show and then

33:04.040 --> 33:05.940
very clearly recognize the opposite

33:05.940 --> 33:08.020
that they're desperate that you wouldn't be lying about all this

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if you were in some a position of strength right and

33:10.040 --> 33:12.060
so it's quite obvious that the Strait of Hormuz

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the way they handled this and we can bring

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this into the discussion of like the deal

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and the lies about it but

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it's very important to see I think the way that they

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tactically handled this is that and this is

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important to the point of whether the strait was closed

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at all it was restricted never

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closed as far as I can tell and that's really important

33:27.980 --> 33:30.040
that what the in the onset

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I think that Donald Trump was played in a

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small way because let's be clear he wanted this

33:33.900 --> 33:35.960
he was very at least he spoke publicly

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about and I went over this yesterday

33:37.440 --> 33:40.260
up like January 20 25 February

33:40.260 --> 33:41.840
20 25 was like Iran

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sanctions or we're gonna invade like basically

33:43.980 --> 33:45.920
saying that you better get the hard way or the easy

33:45.920 --> 33:47.980
way and somehow people acting like he

33:47.980 --> 33:50.060
wasn't always in this path he was right but

33:50.060 --> 33:51.380
I think that Israel

33:51.920 --> 33:53.660
got him in line with that but then also

33:53.660 --> 33:55.380
tricked him into thinking that he had the excuse

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and the justification because Trump is legacy

33:57.580 --> 33:59.300
matters so what I think happened

33:59.300 --> 34:01.660
was that they said after the 12-day discussion

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you know they basically said

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you know we have an opportunity Netanyahu is what

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I see Israel talking to Trump which we've all

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but proven this right where the information came

34:09.300 --> 34:11.540
from the conversation the dates they picked

34:11.540 --> 34:13.480
and he convinced Donald Trump in my opinion

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that this was going to be his legacy

34:15.100 --> 34:17.420
that you we'll go after Iran no one else

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has been able to do this and we will and

34:19.220 --> 34:21.300
Iran will this is the point instantly block

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the straight that's what they told him that's

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what maybe they thought mines and this and

34:25.120 --> 34:27.140
the bomb everybody and the whole world

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behind you mr. Trump and the whole world will see

34:29.160 --> 34:31.180
that you're on the right side and that just didn't happen

34:31.180 --> 34:33.260
and so the straight didn't get closed

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and that's why I think they immediately started

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reporting the straight's been closed there's

34:37.300 --> 34:38.980
mines in the straight none of that actually

34:38.980 --> 34:40.640
happened as far as I can tell just like

34:40.640 --> 34:42.880
they started saying tanks rolling into Kiev

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day one on the war in Ukraine that didn't

34:44.980 --> 34:46.840
happen either because I think they thought

34:46.840 --> 34:48.740
that's what they would do and so now we're to point

34:48.740 --> 34:50.760
where you're in this position where Iran has

34:50.760 --> 34:52.840
created the dynamic where they can

34:52.840 --> 34:55.000
box out the U.S. and Israel and they're starting

34:55.000 --> 34:56.520
to make sure everyone knows no you can go through

34:56.520 --> 34:58.340
Spain go ahead Japan you go right ahead you know

34:58.340 --> 35:00.340
it's like if you're not fighting us you're good

35:00.340 --> 35:01.980
to go but there's been this effort to

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convince everybody else and I think also

35:03.440 --> 35:05.840
forcefully to make them stop to not let

35:05.840 --> 35:07.180
him go through because they're trying to

35:07.180 --> 35:09.020
convince the world that it is shut right so

35:09.020 --> 35:10.900
this is this massive game of psychological

35:10.900 --> 35:12.720
manipulation and I just think you have to

35:12.720 --> 35:14.680
point out that that was very tactfully done

35:14.680 --> 35:16.600
by Iran and if we can be honest

35:16.600 --> 35:18.220
about this now they seem to be winning

35:18.220 --> 35:20.740
what do you think? I think

35:20.740 --> 35:22.780
that there's been criticism that the

35:22.780 --> 35:24.540
British haven't been involved in this war

35:24.540 --> 35:26.600
but I would say that they have been I think

35:26.600 --> 35:28.180
Lloyds of London closed the straight

35:29.260 --> 35:30.660
once they would be insurance

35:30.660 --> 35:32.700
you know go deeper

35:32.700 --> 35:34.200
on that what do you mean? Yeah once

35:34.670 --> 35:36.560
the City of London and the

35:36.560 --> 35:38.640
major international maritime

35:38.640 --> 35:40.100
insurance brokers decided

35:40.100 --> 35:42.180
they were done they're the ones who

35:42.180 --> 35:44.140
closed the straight before anything else happened

35:44.140 --> 35:46.200
they said we will not be insuring

35:46.200 --> 35:47.900
carriers that go through there

35:47.900 --> 35:50.200
and Donald Trump's response was well we'll

35:50.200 --> 35:52.280
ensure them by bringing destroyers

35:52.280 --> 35:53.700
or battleships through or something you know

35:53.700 --> 35:55.940
we'll bring groups that will escort

35:55.940 --> 35:56.700
them in that

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well now you're a target so that's

36:00.100 --> 36:02.520
clearly not going to work so it wasn't

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as you mentioned it wasn't that they put

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minds across the straight

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they didn't have to

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they in fact

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that would be counterproductive

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the best thing for

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them to do is to threaten

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that they could or that they could

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take you out with a missile but then just

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open a toll booth that's what we're doing

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right now I'm working on an episode

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right now called the Tehran toll

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booth and this is

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what they're doing they're going to make

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a fortune doing this and of course

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if you don't have a problem with Iran

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and you're not involved in trying

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to destroy their country then you don't have a problem

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going through right pay the toll

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go through

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you've done your research

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you're the point about the other countries right

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and the interesting point that

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as far as I can tell

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every canal and straight

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almost everyone in the world Panama they charge

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for you know right they

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except Iran has never done that now

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there's more to it right there's other elements involved

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that's not the sole location but

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we can all acknowledge that and this is why

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this has always been the conversation and why people predicted

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what they would do they have had strategic

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control over the straight for a very long

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time so it's interesting that yet they have

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never charged a toll which I

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find very telling right but so what's interesting

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you're right they're coming around now to saying okay you put

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us here this wasn't this wasn't happening

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until you illegally bombed us but now

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and we were we talked next if we want to get into

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the deal lies that they're at the point now

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where they're going to look we're not even talking to you you can

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keep pretending like you're offering things we're saying no

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we're not doing this until you give us our

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you know acknowledge our sovereignty of the country

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as well as over the straight which is new

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and that we'll be able to you know decide the

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the toll mechanism

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through the straight but then and of course they

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turned around and called it terrorism and threats

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even though it's whatever the country does then

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though what's interesting to me is as it evolved

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it turned into well they're now going to work

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they're talking with muscat in regard to

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having a dual

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deal involved as well

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as talking to the neighbors about how it will go

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down like and by the way also speaking

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to the U.N. and it's like yeah clearly

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clearly terrorism taking place

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you know but so that's a really important conversation

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because this has been done

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because of what the U.S. and Israel did

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and so then I'm even willing to bet you

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that it'll become some of a toll dynamic

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largely against the people that are not on their

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side and that'll be framed as dishonest and

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kind of is I guess

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but it's justified I would argue based on what's been

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done to them you know so I'm interested to see where you go with

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that because there's probably more things that you've gone

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into on that any other deeper points on it

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well it's such a

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great option for them as you mentioned

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yeah they collect tolls at the Suez

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they can collect tolls at the Panama Canal

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I mean these are not

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this isn't some new idea

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but Iran

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had always been very measured

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and now this is going to

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change things it's going to change things for

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the BRICS Plus

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countries of which United Arab

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Emirates is now a member

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Iran is a member so now

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we've got BRICS Plus members launching

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missiles at each other which is going to be a huge

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problem we've got Saudi Arabia who's a

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BRICS Plus

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they were invited in but they never made a

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decision one way or the other so they're sort of

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you know

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waiting this one out I suppose

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because of the back and forth with Trump

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and Mohammed Salman

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you see that

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yeah so this is a

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this is a

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it's

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they

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Trump

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I think

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I think that they walked him into a trap

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and I can't tell if it whether it was the

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Israelis who did it or the Iranians but

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they you know when you're

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when you're such a narcissist

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these people can

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almost sort of

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plot your next move

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you know they to know

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how he was going to respond

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and how enraged he

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would get and boy

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I'll tell you what I had no energy one way

39:54.180 --> 39:55.940
or the other on Iranian

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online

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trollers but those guys get an A plus

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and for their videos

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and the the the shit talking that they're

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doing towards the Trump

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administration it's very logical and

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measured and it's on point and it's

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it's it's amazing

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so it is propaganda

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but it doesn't mean it's false right

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that's the same with like the Russia point during the election

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general you can't listen to them even though they're telling you the truth

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it's it's important to think about that

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how funny is it and really maybe this

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is an indictment on American culture

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and it but Iran

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is essentially holding up a mirror to the

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American culture they

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realized that the best way to

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connect with

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the the people of America is to make

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Lego movies yeah

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and show it to them

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which which were well done

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amazing and most definitely

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worked I mean I watched it too and I don't

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think I've ever sat through an actual Lego movie

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I just was impressed with the tactics so

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there's a there's

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a variety of battlefields

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out there and the digital

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battlefield is one of them that propaganda

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war is being won by the Iranians

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yeah and now there's

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other wars that are that are being you know

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contested as well but but the propaganda

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battle is not going well for

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Trump you know he's the boy who

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cried wolf so

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many times that it's

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it's tough I mean it's enough was this going to be

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another speech about the beautiful bombs and

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the magnificent missiles is this is what we're

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going to hear because we're all kind of done with

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that like it's it's it's

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enough so he

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he's got no credibility he has nobody

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to blame but himself for that

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you know he just has talked

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and talked and talked to the point where now

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when he has something extremely

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important to say he has

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to drop F bombs on Easter

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to try and get people to listen to him because nobody

41:43.980 --> 41:45.840
takes him seriously anymore he is

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the boy who cried

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Iran so many times

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that nobody just nobody's willing to listen

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to him yeah I mean to the point

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to where it's like literally within 20 in one

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speech he will contradict what he said in the

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beginning of the speech or or like I just

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quickly showed the screen for the podcast

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is the day-to-day you know you have 48

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hours and then like then changing that the

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next day to another 24 it

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just doesn't make any sense you know and so you're right

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it is the boy who cried wolf for sure and nobody's

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going to take him seriously but you know that the

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the what was the other part we were just talking

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about I just lost it

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well in any case let's talk about the

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the oh yes what it was the

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there was something around that that was important

42:23.500 --> 42:25.520
I'm forgetting what you did you go into

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your point you were going to discuss about the bricks part of it did you want

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to get into that more well I just wonder

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about how that's going to play out moving

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forward because we have this consortium

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of countries that are

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if you take a look at the bricks plus maps

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what one of the things that you'll you'll notice

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is that they are all

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around maritime choke points I mean it's

42:43.580 --> 42:44.780
very strategic

42:45.340 --> 42:47.700
either either energy producers or they've got

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some sort of

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geographic advantage

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and in the

42:53.120 --> 42:55.620
now you've got a couple of them fighting with each other

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Iran who is a member fighting

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with the United Arab Emirates blowing up

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each other's oil fields and things like that

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and infrastructure so I wonder how that's

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going to play out in the aftermath of this is

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this the wedge that gets

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driven in breaks at bricks

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you know or maybe gets some people kicked out

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or or I don't know maybe they have to reimagine

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this as I mentioned Saudi Arabia was on the fence

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for that

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maybe they've come in

43:18.940 --> 43:21.280
you know maybe in the aftermath they come in and say

43:21.280 --> 43:23.500
oh this is that you know we we were on

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the fence because we had this petro dollar

43:25.340 --> 43:26.880
arrangement which is up in flames

43:27.380 --> 43:29.400
and and we always believe that

43:29.400 --> 43:31.460
we would have the American Empire to protect us

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which isn't really happening

43:32.940 --> 43:35.060
and yeah we've been letting them use our airspace

43:35.060 --> 43:36.420
but that's just pissing every

43:36.420 --> 43:38.580
one of our neighbors off and we have to live

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here after the American Empire is gone

43:40.780 --> 43:42.520
you know and now

43:42.520 --> 43:44.520
our oil fields are on fire and that's a huge

43:44.520 --> 43:46.540
problem so I don't know I don't know what this

43:46.540 --> 43:47.840
how this plays out because

43:49.120 --> 43:50.540
you know maybe maybe there's a

43:50.540 --> 43:51.420
path where you

43:52.500 --> 43:54.460
where you you anybody who is

43:54.460 --> 43:56.680
collaborating with the American Empire

43:56.680 --> 43:57.380
is just out

43:58.820 --> 44:00.980
and they say the UAE you got to go

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you know you were on the wrong

44:02.900 --> 44:04.240
side in this one so

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I mean wow

44:06.900 --> 44:09.140
good good the UAE

44:09.140 --> 44:11.140
may have zero strategic value

44:11.140 --> 44:13.160
now anyway well especially since

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that well that was cutter actually the big

44:15.120 --> 44:17.040
installation but but yeah but I mean a lot

44:17.040 --> 44:18.940
of them are clearly the whole thing is changing

44:18.940 --> 44:20.940
the whole field so the tables being flipped over

44:20.940 --> 44:22.980
at this point and I think that's important to

44:22.980 --> 44:24.880
think about and how it like resettles and the

44:24.880 --> 44:26.620
bricks point is an interesting point to that

44:26.620 --> 44:28.020
is but but you know

44:28.520 --> 44:30.720
I don't I think it's dangerous to see it

44:30.720 --> 44:32.080
as which I know we've talked about before

44:32.080 --> 44:33.500
and I don't believe you see it as like good

44:33.500 --> 44:35.360
versus bad or like you know it's all just more

44:35.360 --> 44:37.800
government and influence at least it's

44:37.800 --> 44:39.340
multi-polar versus what you know but at the

44:39.340 --> 44:41.480
end of the day I feel like it represents a

44:41.480 --> 44:43.440
threat at the same time like it's we shouldn't

44:43.440 --> 44:44.880
jump from one control structure to the

44:44.880 --> 44:46.320
next but you know this is coming from my

44:46.320 --> 44:47.800
anarchistic perspective and I know it's

44:47.800 --> 44:49.680
probably not shared by most people out there

44:49.680 --> 44:51.600
but I hope we can start considering that

44:51.600 --> 44:53.440
we don't need to look for the next ruler

44:53.440 --> 44:55.640
instead let's just let's take a moment

44:55.640 --> 44:57.620
in between them just breathe for a

44:57.620 --> 44:59.340
second you know but it's hard that's

44:59.340 --> 45:01.260
that's kind of how I feel to and I put it in

45:01.260 --> 45:03.500
this as somebody who bartended in my 20s

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I sort of put put it in in this

45:05.200 --> 45:07.420
perspective that the American Empire

45:07.420 --> 45:09.580
is essentially like this big

45:09.580 --> 45:11.400
drunken lunatic in the bar

45:11.400 --> 45:13.080
that you want to get him out you know

45:13.080 --> 45:15.240
he's been threatening people at different tables

45:15.240 --> 45:16.660
and and

45:17.900 --> 45:19.240
what you're tempted

45:19.240 --> 45:21.600
to want to do is get

45:21.600 --> 45:23.580
the other that other big guy in the corner

45:23.580 --> 45:25.460
bricks and get him to go punch them

45:25.460 --> 45:27.580
out but then the problem is now you have

45:27.580 --> 45:29.420
two drunken lunatics fighting in your bar

45:29.420 --> 45:31.620
instead of one you know what I mean so

45:31.620 --> 45:33.800
the idea of a multipolar world

45:34.720 --> 45:35.600
initially sounds

45:35.600 --> 45:37.700
good because it sounds like a check on the

45:37.700 --> 45:39.380
other one to kind of keep them in place and

45:39.380 --> 45:41.600
maybe if it is a check

45:41.600 --> 45:43.800
then that's it but it never ends that way

45:43.800 --> 45:45.220
exactly they might

45:45.220 --> 45:47.700
end up working together for all you

45:47.700 --> 45:49.220
know and then you're really in trouble right

45:49.220 --> 45:51.120
they've now clicked up two big groups

45:51.120 --> 45:52.940
and then it's real easy to

45:52.940 --> 45:55.360
make that one step and connect them both

45:55.360 --> 45:57.380
together as opposed to you know starting

45:57.380 --> 45:59.120
from scratch and having to connect 20 on this

45:59.120 --> 46:00.260
side and 20 on this side and then

46:00.260 --> 46:03.360
like so be very careful cheerleading

46:03.360 --> 46:05.220
on a multipolar world when

46:05.220 --> 46:07.620
when it involved because by definition

46:07.620 --> 46:09.180
it involves the grouping

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up of countries into

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supranational organizations and

46:13.260 --> 46:15.040
if you think it's a good thing now

46:15.040 --> 46:17.260
maybe it is but it could always

46:17.260 --> 46:19.320
become a bad it's more than likely a bad

46:19.320 --> 46:21.300
thing anyway but it's it could

46:21.300 --> 46:23.500
be a bad thing in the future as well

46:23.500 --> 46:24.720
so you have to be careful

46:25.260 --> 46:27.040
of how you choose to

46:27.040 --> 46:29.140
solve the problem

46:29.140 --> 46:30.940
because the solving the American empire

46:30.940 --> 46:33.160
problem with another empire is not the answer

46:33.160 --> 46:35.140
it has to be in my opinion

46:35.140 --> 46:36.460
a means to an end

46:37.060 --> 46:39.100
because look you're not going I mean I guess

46:39.100 --> 46:41.100
it's possible a world in which you just

46:41.100 --> 46:43.240
snap your fingers and all of it goes away but that

46:43.240 --> 46:45.400
would cause a lot of chaos and destabilization

46:45.400 --> 46:47.180
just because people don't know what to do and we've been

46:47.180 --> 46:49.360
guided by the idea that government has to

46:49.360 --> 46:51.500
exist but if you lean into something

46:51.500 --> 46:53.240
like that my argument would be maybe

46:53.240 --> 46:55.380
people disagree that's the next part you should lean into

46:55.380 --> 46:56.800
but you feel it's the right choice

46:57.200 --> 46:59.480
lean into it but with the mindset

46:59.480 --> 47:01.360
that it's only a means to an end that the next

47:01.360 --> 47:03.280
step should be less and less and less

47:03.280 --> 47:05.260
and don't just lean into a small

47:05.260 --> 47:07.260
change that goes right back into the consolidation

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of power which is what every government

47:09.140 --> 47:11.300
my entire life has shown me that if you

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do say if you give people the authority

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eventually other people whether them

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themselves or other people around them will

47:17.240 --> 47:18.900
like you're saying the bricks part

47:19.340 --> 47:21.120
some of those groups will suddenly quietly talk

47:21.120 --> 47:22.760
around themselves and go hey let's make deals and

47:22.760 --> 47:24.140
let's work together and let's get this let's

47:24.140 --> 47:26.020
consolidate our power over this group and it

47:26.020 --> 47:27.860
always happens and so if you

47:27.860 --> 47:29.540
like the whole idea of like the

47:29.540 --> 47:31.500
American experiment and if you know if you

47:31.500 --> 47:33.020
believe this was the true mindset and I do

47:33.020 --> 47:34.460
believe there is parts of this that were there

47:34.460 --> 47:37.060
the original idea was about creating this

47:37.060 --> 47:39.000
imperfect thing that it you know as

47:39.000 --> 47:40.900
you know the statement of man or

47:40.900 --> 47:42.420
crooked timber you know that's what we get

47:42.420 --> 47:44.500
and so we have to plan for the fact that it won't

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work out the best way and that's why the whole

47:46.340 --> 47:48.060
check and balance system was created it wasn't

47:48.060 --> 47:49.840
perfect it was you know we knew that people

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would try to seek power and this is the

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best that we could do in that moment it was

47:53.100 --> 47:55.060
on us to maintain that now whatever you

47:55.060 --> 47:56.280
think about that whether they meant it or

47:56.280 --> 47:58.320
not it makes sense that we are in a system

47:58.320 --> 48:00.500
where that the goal should be to diminish

48:00.500 --> 48:02.680
power not collect it not to grow it I

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would argue that that should have been a

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step towards less control and maybe somebody

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you know we that was very possible at that

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point but it said it very quickly went to

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the other direction it went to the very

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thing that the argue that they were trying

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to avoid the centralized power the

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centralized government and now we're going

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from that to more centralized control

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governments you know from a global

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perspective which is what we've always been

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fighting and from a technological standpoint

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as well because as we centralized control

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you can understand people's argument

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that could say well you know these

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politicians are such scumbags we keep

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catching them doing everything they shut

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down the government they can't get anything

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done right Lindsey Graham's walking around

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Disney World with a magic wand like why don't

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we get rid of all these people and replace

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them with computers we'll program the

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computers to be super compassionate you

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know they'll be be fair and and it'll

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be you know it'll be like a futuristic

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world I mean this they were talking

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about this in the early 50s right the

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international geophysical years this is

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what we'll do that Donald Fagan wrote

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a song about it right so so

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this is the future that they

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that they have been planning for a long

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time you know we

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could very easily

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make a firm

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case for getting out of

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having these awful

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human beings as politicians and then

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as the solution walk right

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into an even worse trap

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with this whole system becoming

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automated right and that of course is

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where they want to go and I just had Patrick Wood

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and Courtney Turner on talking about

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about

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their new book and in the direction that

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things are headed with technocracy and so

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I my fear is that

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what if

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the the big play here is let's

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make government so embarrassing

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and so incompetent you know

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the weft leaders all these young global

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leaders that are all

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coked up and weird and skinny

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and you know awkward and

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least you know less impressive than the one

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before them and a pipeline of

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prime ministers coming through the UK they're just

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each one of them is more compromised than

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next like what if the goal

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is to get us by 2030

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to just go we're done

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with all these politicians there

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you guys are all terrible we need

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help we need

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Curtis Yarvin to come in and

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save us or whatever

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you know somebody to come in

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and right all these wrongs

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and be the good guy

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tech wizard the

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you know the good Elon Musk

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and come in here and fix all

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the problems right I can

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envision that happening and that would be

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happening right now yeah

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that's where I think we are

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now maybe not the automated everything but maybe

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that's I mean I don't even know if that's really the

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choice but that seems like a possibility

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right but I think that it's a it's that

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technocratic world control structure that we're

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discussing you know and anyway we've been

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discussing that very point for a very long time

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you know the the I am like even

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going back to the world before this but

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there is the moment of Trump that the

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lot of the people discussed and I think we talked

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about it like in a general sense of our own groups

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that it could be that Trump was picked

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to bring this down right because

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he was the person he was and now that feels a little

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bit more likely right now you know that it was like he was

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the planned like dropping at his feet

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blame Trump for why it all happened and then

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use that to roll us into why we need

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to change the structure because this is where

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it's led which led us to Trump you know it's like it kind of

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makes sense you know but in a bigger sense

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the idea of the kind of technocratic

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transition you know again I think that's

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what's happening right now like this right

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now the Palantir the attachment

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201 the all of this which I do think

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there's a bit of a schism between that and what

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Zionism is trying to do with the same time

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but I think at the end of the day there's a

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coordination to that and so I agree with

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you I think that this is a dangerous time

51:38.380 --> 51:40.060
where we're watching this transition happen

51:40.060 --> 51:43.160
and using everything we don't want

51:43.160 --> 51:45.380
right where and the Fed and here's

51:45.380 --> 51:47.240
you see we've all talked about this right giving you

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the things we don't want to using it to roll you into the next thing

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the question is are we going to be able to see that

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as a whole before we're inside of it

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that's what we're all right yeah yeah

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we had in in the Fed

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right because that's what we've always wanted

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and we finally get to the point where we

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in the Fed right at

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the time when the Fed was useless anyway

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right when they were making the transition

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into something else so they give you the victory

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you ended the Fed yeah you got it

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you know no more of those Federal Reserve

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notes is we issue the stable claims

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you know and it's like well you actually lost

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in the end so I

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worry about the victories

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that they allow us to have

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within that system

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that maybe

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makes us complacent or makes us feel like

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we're going somewhere but we're in

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some sort of cul-de-sac that was never going to go

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anywhere anyway that I were

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especially with the Fed because

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there had never been a time

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in my life where they even really mentioned

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the Fed let alone like yeah well maybe we could

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there could be some steps to limit the Fed

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or anything like why are you guys talking about

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limiting the Fed you know nobody's ever done

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that before unless you guys have some sort of plan

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to make the Fed

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go away but you would make the Fed go away

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if it became sort of a

52:57.300 --> 52:59.440
relic of the past and it was no longer

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as long as you've got the BIS

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in their universal rail system

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what do you really need the Fed for

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well I think you're right but I would

53:07.420 --> 53:09.420
also argue it might be a combination

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of these two things or maybe the one thing I'm

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going to say entirely but ultimately

53:13.260 --> 53:15.320
it could be I knew I was going to do this

53:15.320 --> 53:16.620
I do that when I say things like that

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BIS oh so the idea of

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sort of doing it

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that's what it was thank god I hate when I do that

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doing it because we saw it

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not because necessarily that it was what they wanted

53:26.840 --> 53:28.760
but because it's like okay well

53:28.760 --> 53:30.960
we keep the Fed forever if

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it was

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continuing its function but I think

53:35.240 --> 53:36.720
and that's what I mean come maybe kind of both

53:36.720 --> 53:38.820
but people are seeing these things right so it's like

53:38.820 --> 53:40.200
at some point they recognize look

53:40.580 --> 53:42.820
we can keep screening you guys are wrong your conspiracy

53:42.820 --> 53:44.940
theorists but if 99.9%

53:44.940 --> 53:47.260
of Americans hypothetically are like the feds bad

53:47.260 --> 53:48.680
we can't we got it

53:48.680 --> 53:50.820
okay they see it we can't put that toothpaste back

53:50.820 --> 53:52.700
in the bottom right so you give them it right

53:52.700 --> 53:53.960
but so that from that

53:53.960 --> 53:56.400
point maybe 10 years ago and now

53:56.400 --> 53:58.760
they've been trying to get themselves to a point to where

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they can engineer the transition

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from the thing they were always like that's where I would read that

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that I think that if something's functioning

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they don't really want to change it unless it's in their

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interest to and I think that the Fed could have easily

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just been transitioned into a technocratic

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you know instead they need to bring it down

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to just to make us think that we were

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successful you know what I mean and that's because we saw

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it so it's also kind of the awareness of it all

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the release valve point and I think that's

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in every conversation today

54:22.060 --> 54:22.860
yeah yeah

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yeah but let's let's end

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with a point quickly about

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technocracy that since we're since we're on

54:30.380 --> 54:32.040
this discussion a little bit which I'm sure you saw

54:32.040 --> 54:34.220
which just kind of brings about right back right back around

54:34.220 --> 54:35.680
to the lies from the administration

54:35.680 --> 54:38.060
really just the government I mean if you're

54:38.060 --> 54:40.120
new to this not I do not think this

54:40.120 --> 54:42.240
is unique to Trump it's pretty prominent

54:42.240 --> 54:44.160
but I think it left and right it's the same

54:44.160 --> 54:45.960
deal but this was about the

54:45.960 --> 54:48.060
border peace point what we talked about

54:48.060 --> 54:49.640
this a couple weeks ago the state the

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state department transferred 1.25

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billion dollars to the border peace and

54:54.100 --> 54:56.020
it goes on to highlight what it took it from you know a

54:56.020 --> 54:58.440
lot of different things or even the 1.5

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trillion dollar budget for military

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and the tons of things that will have to

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be cancelled from tons of

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things by the way that MAGA very much wanted

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so it's important to see as well a different point

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but this is Catherine

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just saying yeah you know Congress has the power to reverse

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the money he stole that

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Congress authorized to go

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to the border peace but they're not

55:17.620 --> 55:19.940
why not you know so just a general point

55:19.940 --> 55:22.060
to wrap up that you know he's stealing billions

55:22.480 --> 55:23.860
it's more than just this one point

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from taxpayers to dump

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into a personal

55:27.620 --> 55:29.860
border peace that he's chairman

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for life with Jared

55:32.340 --> 55:34.320
Kushner, Whitcoff, Tony Blair

55:34.320 --> 55:35.140
a few others

55:35.140 --> 55:37.540
I just I mean and then we just talked

55:37.540 --> 55:39.300
about briefly the point of the border peace and his

55:39.300 --> 55:41.400
you know his 2 billion dollar WHO project

55:41.400 --> 55:43.240
I mean all these different things are another

55:43.240 --> 55:45.780
global entity even the UN called his project

55:45.780 --> 55:47.760
for the border peace aid adjacent security council

55:47.760 --> 55:49.680
you know so this seems to be an obvious

55:49.680 --> 55:51.380
part of this technocratic side of it

55:51.380 --> 55:53.060
but just to end with a point showing you the

55:53.700 --> 55:55.520
lies right but what are your

55:55.520 --> 55:57.540
thoughts of that and how it plays into all this you know how

55:57.540 --> 55:59.280
does Israel play a role in that seeing us out there

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kind of not involved even though they are

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and it has to do with Gaza but the money's not even going to

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Gaza seems crazy a funny

56:05.220 --> 56:07.280
funny how that is right there they're

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definitely involved in it

56:09.480 --> 56:10.780
but not responsible

56:11.260 --> 56:13.320
there's no ties to them

56:14.900 --> 56:15.300
we're

56:15.300 --> 56:17.460
at a point where

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in the end of empire

56:19.440 --> 56:22.380
you burst into the office expecting everybody

56:22.380 --> 56:23.540
to be having a big meeting

56:23.540 --> 56:25.440
and there's one guy in there and he's stealing

56:25.440 --> 56:27.620
all the candlesticks he's like I'm out of here

56:27.620 --> 56:29.220
and you're just like wait

56:29.220 --> 56:31.320
you guys aren't trying to save it

56:31.320 --> 56:33.540
they're like right no you know so

56:33.540 --> 56:35.620
you they're stealing everything that's

56:35.620 --> 56:37.140
not nailed down in this empire

56:37.140 --> 56:39.120
and that's a that's a bad sign

56:39.120 --> 56:41.520
nobody's doing anything about it there's no

56:42.280 --> 56:42.760
I

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when it's when it's Israeli

56:45.820 --> 56:47.380
beneficial when it benefits Israel

56:47.380 --> 56:49.360
in any way shape or form there's never

56:49.360 --> 56:51.200
any sort of outrage about it right when if it's

56:51.200 --> 56:53.360
red team or blue team specific maybe

56:53.360 --> 56:55.140
you'll you'll hear one side push

56:55.140 --> 56:57.060
back but this is the

56:57.060 --> 56:59.180
the unifying factor right as long as

56:59.180 --> 57:00.680
you're you're setting it up to

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benefit that group

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then you won't be indicted

57:05.300 --> 57:07.160
they won't investigate it you

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can steal anything you want you really

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and you really can I think

57:10.900 --> 57:11.940
I mean I

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don't know that they I don't know that

57:15.160 --> 57:17.160
there's any evidence of anybody ever being

57:17.160 --> 57:19.240
really held accountable for stealing any of

57:19.240 --> 57:21.380
this stuff I mean especially if you're

57:21.960 --> 57:23.360
if you're

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Israeli or Jewish then you

57:25.260 --> 57:26.980
have the option to go to Israel

57:26.980 --> 57:29.300
not only is there no accountability you're

57:29.300 --> 57:31.160
quite literally put on a private jet

57:31.160 --> 57:33.700
and flown there so that nobody can get you

57:33.700 --> 57:35.300
so like was that

57:35.300 --> 57:37.060
his name the guy who

57:37.060 --> 57:39.140
was Tom Abramovich was the Israeli

57:39.140 --> 57:40.960
government guy who came here with the intention to

57:41.800 --> 57:43.040
sexually molest children

57:43.040 --> 57:45.400
with the website they got caught and they arrested

57:45.400 --> 57:46.520
him and they just sent him back home

57:47.000 --> 57:48.560
just make sure we don't forget about that

57:48.560 --> 57:50.480
at the same point but there's tons of that Saudi Arabia too

57:50.960 --> 57:52.120
yeah yeah yeah

57:52.120 --> 57:54.080
and I think that that

57:55.300 --> 57:56.620
works both ways

57:56.620 --> 57:58.600
either nobody finds out

57:58.600 --> 58:00.740
about it and that's fine with them

58:00.740 --> 58:02.540
or for those of you

58:02.540 --> 58:05.460
who saw that good I'm glad you saw it

58:05.460 --> 58:06.080
it

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internalize that

58:08.600 --> 58:10.400
watch it again because it's

58:10.400 --> 58:12.420
we're gonna do it again and again and again

58:12.420 --> 58:14.500
the next time one of our guys gets caught for

58:14.500 --> 58:16.500
doing something unspeakable we're gonna load

58:16.500 --> 58:18.500
him on a on another plane and fly him

58:18.500 --> 58:20.540
out as well there's nothing you can do about it so

58:20.540 --> 58:22.720
it's like for the general public who's asleep

58:22.720 --> 58:24.420
at the wheel they don't even know it's happening

58:24.420 --> 58:25.900
for those of us who see it

58:26.440 --> 58:28.540
it's almost like a message it's like the

58:28.540 --> 58:30.500
guy who's you know who wants you

58:30.500 --> 58:32.480
to see his face he's like I'm showing you my

58:32.480 --> 58:34.540
face because I don't care what you'll

58:34.540 --> 58:36.600
do you know that is like another

58:36.600 --> 58:37.760
sort of a

58:38.420 --> 58:40.200
humiliation ritual for those of us who are

58:40.200 --> 58:42.180
who are forced to watch this where you go

58:42.180 --> 58:44.240
but you know you guys fight like hell about some

58:44.240 --> 58:45.880
of these things but then there's

58:45.880 --> 58:48.140
quite obvious low-hanging fruit here

58:48.140 --> 58:50.260
of massive rampant fraud

58:50.260 --> 58:52.300
criminality and none of you

58:52.300 --> 58:54.260
people want to look this way but you're gonna go after

58:54.260 --> 58:56.280
me because I had 601 dollars on

58:56.280 --> 58:56.660
Venmo

58:58.000 --> 58:59.560
I mean look at Christy know

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you know you can literally get caught in a massive

59:02.080 --> 59:04.280
scandal and you get you fail up

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that that I mean

59:05.980 --> 59:08.100
for your analogy the candlesticks is perfect I mean it's

59:08.100 --> 59:09.600
you know everyone is just

59:09.600 --> 59:11.100
absorbing and stealing

59:11.480 --> 59:13.500
and you know and Trump's family is just

59:14.040 --> 59:14.740
brazenly corrupt

59:15.300 --> 59:17.340
by my watches and my shoes and my crypto

59:17.340 --> 59:19.640
if you're right I mean it's just a clown show

59:19.640 --> 59:21.420
right now but you know it's

59:21.420 --> 59:23.800
I don't think that it's completely lost

59:23.800 --> 59:25.620
in the sense of just like even as some

59:25.620 --> 59:27.480
people were talking about like just like hypothetically

59:27.480 --> 59:29.580
let's say this empire dies let's say the

59:29.580 --> 59:31.540
American system just completely it doesn't

59:31.540 --> 59:33.160
mean that the culture disappears

59:33.160 --> 59:35.060
you know it depends there's a different

59:35.540 --> 59:37.760
it's I think we need to consider

59:37.760 --> 59:39.840
is that that might be the best thing

59:39.840 --> 59:40.620
that's ever happened to us

59:40.620 --> 59:43.460
100% when

59:43.460 --> 59:45.660
Berwick and I wrote the control demolition of the

59:45.660 --> 59:47.820
American empire in 2020 we weren't

59:47.820 --> 59:49.280
saying that it was a bad thing

59:49.280 --> 59:51.480
right you know we were what we were saying is

59:51.480 --> 59:53.360
it's not America that goes away

59:53.360 --> 59:55.280
much in the same way that

59:55.280 --> 59:57.540
you know the Soviet Union fell apart

59:57.540 --> 59:59.800
but mother Russia remained right and

59:59.800 --> 01:00:01.580
and you prioritize that

01:00:01.580 --> 01:00:03.540
because you had to get rid of the satellite nations

01:00:03.540 --> 01:00:05.320
that you couldn't you couldn't

01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:07.340
keep you know you couldn't finance that any longer

01:00:07.340 --> 01:00:09.320
right but Russia remains and that's the same

01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:11.400
thing with the American empire the thousand military

01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:12.900
but well they're already going away

01:00:12.900 --> 01:00:15.360
the world's reserve currency

01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:17.040
the the our ability to

01:00:17.040 --> 01:00:19.120
manipulate people with the World Bank and the

01:00:19.120 --> 01:00:21.120
IMF maybe those things are going away but

01:00:21.120 --> 01:00:23.220
those things needed to go away right so it's

01:00:23.220 --> 01:00:24.780
not the worst thing in the world that the

01:00:24.780 --> 01:00:26.500
American empire dies

01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:28.600
I think Americans

01:00:29.120 --> 01:00:30.920
maybe don't understand that

01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:33.160
distinction between the empire and the country

01:00:33.160 --> 01:00:34.980
or the people of America

01:00:34.980 --> 01:00:37.280
versus what America has become

01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:39.220
this war machine and so

01:00:39.220 --> 01:00:41.140
there's components of it it's not

01:00:41.140 --> 01:00:43.080
being disrespectful and it's not being

01:00:43.080 --> 01:00:45.040
you know to the nation or anything

01:00:45.040 --> 01:00:47.080
like that to say that the American empire needs

01:00:47.080 --> 01:00:48.760
to go away it's the disgusting

01:00:48.760 --> 01:00:50.500
side of it it's not what America

01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:52.200
it's not the

01:00:52.820 --> 01:00:55.480
version of America that you want to project

01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:57.200
around the world if you're a good

01:00:57.200 --> 01:00:58.700
and decent person this is the

01:00:58.700 --> 01:01:01.140
the face of America that drops bombs

01:01:01.140 --> 01:01:03.120
on hospitals and schools right

01:01:03.120 --> 01:01:05.200
you know and it needs to go away and it's

01:01:05.200 --> 01:01:07.340
going to absolutely it is the antithesis

01:01:07.340 --> 01:01:08.700
to what we've always been told

01:01:08.700 --> 01:01:10.920
that this country is at the very least right so

01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:13.140
I agree with the way you frame that it's not because it's not that

01:01:13.140 --> 01:01:15.280
that's what it's the you know what we are it's not

01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:16.800
I mean this country the government itself

01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:19.080
more importantly has never truly in my mind

01:01:19.080 --> 01:01:21.220
represented what it's tried to or framed it

01:01:21.220 --> 01:01:22.860
as there's a moment where it's possible but

01:01:22.860 --> 01:01:25.300
it went the other way you know but what we've always

01:01:25.300 --> 01:01:27.080
been told and what Trump and the rest are so

01:01:27.080 --> 01:01:29.160
desperately trying to scream is

01:01:29.160 --> 01:01:31.980
just self evidently the opposite you know and I

01:01:31.980 --> 01:01:33.540
think that is an important moment

01:01:33.540 --> 01:01:35.340
so I'm with you and I'm glad that this is

01:01:35.340 --> 01:01:37.040
something that people are starting to see that's

01:01:37.040 --> 01:01:38.800
why I think that point I continue to bring up that

01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:41.120
right now the empire that

01:01:41.120 --> 01:01:43.280
is dying is desperately trying to keep

01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:45.260
all of us thinking that they're in control

01:01:45.260 --> 01:01:46.960
they're the majority it's like the

01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.000
2008 moment we're like the day before

01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:51.060
they're like we're stronger than ever and then the whole thing collapses

01:01:51.060 --> 01:01:53.280
you know right and it's like so

01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:55.280
we need to think that they want us to think

01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:57.160
everyone in MAGA is all

01:01:57.160 --> 01:01:58.820
on one side and all the Democrats are

01:01:58.820 --> 01:02:00.480
pedophile you know whatever this game is

01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:02.580
I don't think that even comes close to

01:02:02.580 --> 01:02:04.880
representing most Americans whether or not

01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:06.920
they're liberal or conservative and that is

01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:08.800
an important thing to see and to end on

01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:10.460
your positive note there like you know

01:02:10.460 --> 01:02:12.700
think that there could I mean see that there

01:02:12.700 --> 01:02:14.420
is a positive path through all this

01:02:14.420 --> 01:02:16.240
where we could get rid of the over

01:02:16.240 --> 01:02:17.940
you know the empire

01:02:17.940 --> 01:02:20.280
and see that we are still here and see that we're

01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:22.140
stronger for it in a real sense you know

01:02:22.140 --> 01:02:23.840
as a country as a people as a society

01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:25.200
as a planet you know

01:02:25.680 --> 01:02:27.740
so it didn't reflect us anyway it didn't

01:02:27.740 --> 01:02:29.640
reflect our values it wasn't us

01:02:29.640 --> 01:02:31.840
it was a it was a it was a monster

01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:32.920
that had been created

01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:35.500
with in a laboratory

01:02:35.500 --> 01:02:37.620
fueled by the Federal Reserve and a bunch

01:02:37.620 --> 01:02:39.480
of maniacs that have

01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:41.080
different ideas so it's

01:02:41.080 --> 01:02:44.000
it's a poor reflection on the American

01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:45.820
people anyway so it's the reason

01:02:45.820 --> 01:02:47.780
why when we go abroad

01:02:47.780 --> 01:02:49.800
people go oh boy Americans

01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:51.520
huh you know we know how you guys are

01:02:51.520 --> 01:02:53.580
it's like well yes that's our

01:02:53.580 --> 01:02:55.400
government not necessarily us as a

01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:57.580
as a people so it's been an embarrassing

01:02:57.580 --> 01:02:59.680
stain on us for a while

01:02:59.680 --> 01:03:01.440
so you know maybe

01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:03.600
Trump is maybe Trump was brought

01:03:03.600 --> 01:03:05.640
into to be the clown that

01:03:05.640 --> 01:03:07.020
that that that

01:03:07.020 --> 01:03:08.480
you know that

01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:10.940
that brings down the

01:03:11.520 --> 01:03:13.400
the the end of the empire

01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:15.380
it feels like it I mean

01:03:15.380 --> 01:03:16.980
there's still a couple years left or

01:03:17.420 --> 01:03:19.600
who knows how much longer he has but

01:03:19.600 --> 01:03:21.280
but it feels

01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:23.680
like this is how

01:03:23.680 --> 01:03:24.520
you would do it

01:03:25.340 --> 01:03:26.640
and I and my

01:03:27.700 --> 01:03:29.600
other sort of

01:03:30.640 --> 01:03:31.560
fear that's

01:03:31.560 --> 01:03:33.640
often the distance as well that I can't

01:03:33.640 --> 01:03:35.060
get out of my mind is that

01:03:35.600 --> 01:03:37.720
what if this is all just a big

01:03:39.120 --> 01:03:39.720
distraction

01:03:39.720 --> 01:03:41.480
or an excuse that's brewing

01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:43.700
to paper over a financial

01:03:43.700 --> 01:03:45.640
collapse you know yeah it's out

01:03:45.640 --> 01:03:47.180
there sort of on the horizon

01:03:47.180 --> 01:03:48.660
waiting to come

01:03:49.060 --> 01:03:50.660
coming anyway but

01:03:51.340 --> 01:03:53.040
needing a proper excuse

01:03:53.040 --> 01:03:55.240
where you can go well you know it wasn't me it was this

01:03:55.240 --> 01:03:57.540
there was this whole thing that started the war

01:03:57.540 --> 01:03:59.320
and timing it wasn't

01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:00.700
our banking system that was

01:04:00.700 --> 01:04:03.360
insolvent and running recklessly

01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:05.300
no it wasn't that it was it was this

01:04:05.300 --> 01:04:07.340
other thing that that happened and coincidentally

01:04:07.340 --> 01:04:08.900
the banks went down you know

01:04:08.900 --> 01:04:10.120
because of it so I

01:04:11.120 --> 01:04:13.060
you know I'm always got got my

01:04:13.060 --> 01:04:14.640
eyes open on that too they they wanted

01:04:14.640 --> 01:04:16.700
us looking in in in the Middle East which of

01:04:16.700 --> 01:04:18.140
course we are but

01:04:18.140 --> 01:04:20.520
don't don't forget to keep your eyes on Wall Street as well

01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:22.380
yeah I mean you have to consider that

01:04:22.380 --> 01:04:24.480
I mean it could be both it could be only that

01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:26.640
I mean it's but it's always a possibility you know

01:04:26.640 --> 01:04:29.180
there's always multifaceted agendas and people around

01:04:29.180 --> 01:04:30.220
it doing their own thing

01:04:30.220 --> 01:04:32.340
you know but to the what you might have one final

01:04:32.340 --> 01:04:34.460
thought that I want to point out is that the you know

01:04:34.460 --> 01:04:36.480
the engineer collapse what we're talking about and me

01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:38.480
saying for example this might you know very well be the

01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:40.380
best thing that's ever happened to us it's important to

01:04:40.380 --> 01:04:41.900
make sure you hear that in its own light

01:04:41.900 --> 01:04:44.080
and do not conflate that with

01:04:44.080 --> 01:04:46.040
the idea of whether Israel is

01:04:46.040 --> 01:04:48.020
collapsing this country because I'm not

01:04:48.020 --> 01:04:49.720
saying those are the same what I'm saying is that

01:04:49.720 --> 01:04:52.000
you know we might find a way

01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:53.660
through this whether it's being engineered or not

01:04:53.660 --> 01:04:56.000
that could lead to less government control in our lives

01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:57.660
don't understand

01:04:57.660 --> 01:05:00.220
in my mind that Israel in doing this is the opposite

01:05:00.220 --> 01:05:02.120
it's the mind of that control

01:05:03.020 --> 01:05:03.900
blossoming from

01:05:03.900 --> 01:05:05.920
their control structure from the technocratic control

01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:08.180
structure not the idea of the other way around

01:05:08.180 --> 01:05:09.960
but you know I just want to make sure that was clear because

01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:12.040
there you could see that

01:05:12.040 --> 01:05:13.920
leading through to the same point but I think at the end

01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:15.400
of the day however it's happening

01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:17.580
we should be leaning in that direction but recognize

01:05:17.580 --> 01:05:19.240
there are people trying to weaponize that change

01:05:19.240 --> 01:05:21.160
however it's happening you know I just

01:05:21.160 --> 01:05:23.540
I mean I could apply it to everything we're talking about today

01:05:23.540 --> 01:05:25.100
you know yeah and

01:05:25.100 --> 01:05:27.760
and I'll I'm not even really spoiling

01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:29.780
the ending of our book but the way Burwick and I

01:05:29.780 --> 01:05:32.000
wrapped up the the control demolition

01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:34.220
because we we sort of

01:05:34.220 --> 01:05:35.340
took you back to the

01:05:36.420 --> 01:05:37.980
December 26th 2004

01:05:37.980 --> 01:05:39.160
Banda Acha Indonesia

01:05:39.660 --> 01:05:41.900
with the tsunami right with the people who walked out

01:05:41.900 --> 01:05:43.460
under that beach and there was no water

01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:46.060
they looked around they couldn't really make sense

01:05:46.060 --> 01:05:47.960
of it right the water was gone it had been

01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:49.540
there the ocean was there last night

01:05:49.540 --> 01:05:51.360
this morning it wasn't there

01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:54.100
the people who had experience and the animals

01:05:54.620 --> 01:05:56.180
instinctively went to higher ground

01:05:56.180 --> 01:05:57.980
right and and they knew

01:05:57.980 --> 01:05:59.980
what was coming and

01:05:59.980 --> 01:06:02.120
for the people who didn't know who didn't see

01:06:02.120 --> 01:06:04.000
what was coming or wanted to argue with you or wanted

01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.100
to walk out a half a mile and take a selfie with

01:06:06.100 --> 01:06:06.620
the you know

01:06:07.620 --> 01:06:09.240
it ended badly for them

01:06:09.860 --> 01:06:12.140
for those who recognized it in advance

01:06:12.860 --> 01:06:13.420
knew

01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:16.400
that they couldn't stop what was coming but they knew

01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:17.860
they could get to higher ground

01:06:17.860 --> 01:06:19.760
and prevent themselves from getting

01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:22.000
walloped by this you know in the

01:06:23.100 --> 01:06:24.380
in the aftermath

01:06:24.380 --> 01:06:26.320
you know in the aftermath

01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:28.140
of these huge events

01:06:28.140 --> 01:06:29.540
these these massive

01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:32.280
the fourth turnings and these end of empire

01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:34.300
situations it's chaotic

01:06:34.300 --> 01:06:36.200
of course but there are

01:06:37.080 --> 01:06:38.120
amazing opportunities

01:06:38.120 --> 01:06:40.100
for people who position themselves

01:06:40.100 --> 01:06:42.260
accordingly so I don't want people to ever be

01:06:42.260 --> 01:06:44.120
blackpilled about this because the fact

01:06:44.120 --> 01:06:46.020
that you know that it's coming

01:06:46.020 --> 01:06:48.140
and see it in advance puts you

01:06:48.140 --> 01:06:50.140
in a very small percentage of people who

01:06:50.140 --> 01:06:52.260
can move out of the way to the extent that you can

01:06:52.260 --> 01:06:54.080
maybe that positioning yourself

01:06:54.080 --> 01:06:56.280
financially getting your money out of the banks in advance

01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:58.080
doing some things differently getting gold

01:06:58.080 --> 01:06:59.800
and silver well whatever you're doing you

01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:01.800
you start making your your moves

01:07:03.080 --> 01:07:03.920
by doing

01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:05.840
that you are putting yourself in such

01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:07.960
a rare category of people who are

01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:10.140
who are prepared for what's

01:07:10.140 --> 01:07:12.020
what's coming and not that you want it

01:07:12.020 --> 01:07:14.120
not that you ever want the destruction

01:07:14.120 --> 01:07:15.700
that's coming this way but if it's coming

01:07:15.700 --> 01:07:17.800
and you can't stop it the least you

01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:19.840
can do is save yourself and those who will listen to you

01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:22.120
and get to high ground in a very

01:07:22.120 --> 01:07:23.780
real sense so store you know look

01:07:23.780 --> 01:07:25.480
we clearly have some

01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:27.780
shipping issues and supply chain

01:07:27.780 --> 01:07:29.840
hassles coming our way from the Middle East

01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:31.780
whether you we get our oil there or not

01:07:31.780 --> 01:07:34.000
it doesn't matter everything is going to be impacted

01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:35.420
by that if you don't have

01:07:35.420 --> 01:07:37.240
storeable food in advance now

01:07:37.630 --> 01:07:39.800
you're just you're you're you're not

01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:41.960
taking advantage of this relative calm

01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:43.800
right now you know so I think people

01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:45.980
who are doing things like that or they're

01:07:45.980 --> 01:07:47.880
you know they're preparing

01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:49.820
for for the future right now

01:07:49.820 --> 01:07:51.780
I think in in their minds

01:07:51.780 --> 01:07:53.620
it it's a different trip

01:07:53.620 --> 01:07:55.960
it's a different ride than everybody else

01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:57.800
who's panic buying toilet paper at the

01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:00.000
11th hour and because they saw it

01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:01.440
on Fox News you know it's so

01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:03.400
for those of us who have the eyes to see it

01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:06.020
take advantage of this time of relative calm

01:08:06.020 --> 01:08:07.200
and like get your stuff

01:08:07.720 --> 01:08:09.380
situated and get sorted out

01:08:09.380 --> 01:08:10.880
and do that you'll be

01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:13.540
you'll be wishing you could go back to this moment

01:08:13.540 --> 01:08:15.800
at some point and do the things you

01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:17.700
you knew you should have done so just do it

01:08:17.700 --> 01:08:19.720
today you know wise words

01:08:20.400 --> 01:08:21.700
well thank you Charlie as always

01:08:21.700 --> 01:08:23.720
I enjoy our conversations brother on me too

01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:25.640
and I'm hoping people can you know

01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:27.560
here here are some of the things we discussed today

01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:28.920
because some of the things we talked about today are

01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:31.320
you know more abstract and more just

01:08:31.320 --> 01:08:33.360
you know not focal political

01:08:33.360 --> 01:08:34.980
talking points but just you know the

01:08:34.980 --> 01:08:37.260
the sentiment and the change and the

01:08:37.260 --> 01:08:39.520
you know the and deeper propagandized

01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:41.340
elements you know it's just there's so much going on

01:08:41.340 --> 01:08:43.580
you know as always just question at all

01:08:43.580 --> 01:08:45.260
right you there's so many people out there

01:08:45.260 --> 01:08:47.400
trying to mislead you and trying to get you in certain camps

01:08:47.400 --> 01:08:49.120
different governments with different agendas

01:08:49.120 --> 01:08:51.700
you know if you just engage with everything coming your way

01:08:51.700 --> 01:08:53.340
with the possibility that it could be wrong

01:08:53.340 --> 01:08:55.580
for a number of reasons question it to your due diligence

01:08:55.580 --> 01:08:57.440
by being open to all the possibilities

01:08:57.440 --> 01:08:59.520
you're much much more difficult to play

01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:01.360
you know and that's something we both describe to

01:09:01.360 --> 01:09:03.480
so please help yourself in that way

01:09:03.480 --> 01:09:05.440
so thank you Charlie and I'm looking forward

01:09:05.440 --> 01:09:07.340
to the next one as always everybody out

01:09:07.340 --> 01:09:09.500
there question everything come to your own conclusions

01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:10.560
stay vigilant

