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And boom we're back for another episode of alpha cast I'm Mike winner
And I'm here as always with the maestro of the alpha Vedic Symphony
Dr. Bear Paul Lando coming to you live and direct from the great state of Jefferson where freedom reigns supreme up here on the Smith River
Glorious summer day the temps have dropped
Bear at least over here. Thank God. It was a scorcher
Yeah fog bang came in, you know, we had to go out to the coast yesterday and it was actually chilly with the fuck
Hey, Mike, I have to ask you a question. Do you have your mic on? Oh
Let me check here
You know what I
Don't that's a rookie move. I'm gonna stop recording and we're gonna start again. This is the spell
Hey, you're right Steve should listen to you. Oh, there you are. There you are
Okay, there you are and now I can hear you. Yeah, there we go
I was so excited to talk to Steve in the pre-show that I forgot to even put my mic on, okay
That's slamming now way better. Hi, okay. Hi-fi. All right. There we go. Here we go. Let's start over again
This is a you get to see the behind-the-scenes F up of DJ winner here and on the YouTube
Steve sometimes I have to learn the youngsters how to use all these new technologies here
So just bear with Mike. Good catch bear. Good. Good catch. Here we go
And boom we're back for another episode of alpha cast I'm Mike winner
And I'm here as always with the maestro of the alphabetic symphony Dr. Bear Paul Lando
I just wanted to hear that part again actually
Yeah, we're coming to you live in direct truly live
From the great state of Jefferson where freedom still reigns supreme up here on the beautiful Smith River
Summer is glorious that the temps have dropped a bit. It almost feels like spring again
I'm looking at the forecast man. We're looking at high 60s low 70s for the next week, which is I'll take it bear
It was a scorcher for a second. Yeah, some of my plants
Are very thirsty during the hot season. So it's hard to keep up with everybody
Yeah, and I am very much looking forward to a relaxing Father's Day weekend. Happy Father's Day to you gents
and
You know, it's it's an honor to be a father and to have some progeny out there in the world as we hopefully do our best to
Have them carry on the tradition of the philosopher and the king. So
Good work my friends and Steven what you have some
Some little ones there. How many do you have?
Well, I've got two but they're not so little my son's 19 and my daughter's 26 now, I think so
I've made my offspring
There's rumors there might be a third one from a little time down in the Biloxi, Mississippi, but it's never been
We don't have the documents, but you know the more the merrier anyway, but I have to look into that one
But yeah later on let's get into a progeny because that's a good topic
There's a lot of people who are afraid to bring children into the world. Yeah, so all three of us have two each and
Mike kids are pushing 50 each of them. So I still called them kids, you know
How dare you how dare you say that word that number 50? I'm on that same level. I know you are
But still as young as we could ever be
DJing
This guy touring playing at bars all over the Europe and bear
Most wouldn't even know that your age is what your age is
and I will and I will never say to you pushing 80 as you said in the past because that's
Once again as Dave Weiss has often reminded me when we're talking about age. That's a construct
It's just a concept, right and I never feel old until I look in the mirror
And it's a it's a con
Because yeah, you think that you're getting old and closer to death
So when you start associating with your birthdays, you're associating with a foot in the grave when you know the three of us are a
25 again, we'll get into that. Yeah, definitely developed that and I'd like to get into the the physiology of aging too, which is also
Completely under our direction, but man indoctrination goes quick does it all you know, yeah, let's just say that Mike go for it
Yeah, and it's funny how like at school just on that birthday tip, right?
You you sing the happy birthday song at school as it's a once again ingrained in you
It's not you know about a solar return or anything like that
It's about it's ingraining in that the cosmology too
And so yeah, we're gonna touch on all of that today with Steve as we're gonna have just a fun round table discussion today
We just you know for fun. We put on the title here disarming the weapons of mass distraction
And that fits in perfectly what we're talking about with birthdays, right?
The masters of deception are presently working overtime to foment chaos and confusion
Civil war in the US genocide in the Middle East and the Balkanization of Russia are just a few of the
Theatrical treats while underway. There's nothing new under the Sun
However and current events simply mirrored the cyclic game plan rehashed through centuries past
After being relentlessly hunted by faceless agents a bewildered butch Cassidy famously queried Sundance his partner in crime
Who are these guys?
The same question has crossed many minds in more recent times as the undeniable antics of a predator class are now beginning to dispel the collective hypnosis
Alpha cast friend and audience favorite Steve Falconer returns with his incredible death of knowledge to further expose the duplicitous
machinations of these shadowy villains and the black box sorcery they use to maintain their power as we sort of blow out the whole
Scientism myth today
Which is this the infrastructure that they often use to keep us under this spell
In the last few shows with Steve he identified a diversity of complicit players and secretive sex to paint a revealing mosaic from ancient times
So the current globalists agenda rather than adding to this already comprehensive historical analysis
We decided to conduct part three in a roundtable discussion format a growing portion of the populace is filling a palpable and
Forboding tension. So what can we do about it?
The fact is we have always held all the cards and this endgame is being played out exclusively on the mental plane
Weapons of mass distraction are the deadliest of all and this alpha cast will focus on the
Reemergence of ancient truths that we can use now to counter the agenda to assert the life force of each and every embodied soul
Steve is a prolific investigator and the voice of spacebusters on YouTube bit shoot odyssey and vigilante TV
He is also the author of the children's book the Dukes of Dents
Available on all Amazon platforms and a former writer and administrator for truth serum news where he wrote under the pen name
Are you sure he is a former Chicago native living in Copenhagen, Denmark a music teacher and a full-time touring musician
He's a father and researcher and all things hidden esoteric and out of the ordinary daily experience with a gift for debunking or demystifying
occulted information
Steve Steve is also very busy right now about to release his I think third and final film on this topic Steve
To put the globe finally back in the box, huh?
Orlando take it away my friend. Oh, I'd like to hear about that one
Steve so awesome to have you here always a fun and an experience. I look forward to you know
I love you know before when we're chatting you're saying well, I don't want to just ramble on today
But I love your ramblings because you know, I always get so many great downloads
But you know, we're at a point all of us
I feel that we have so much information that it might be a little bit overload and yeah, we know there's
There's real dick wads out there that are you know trying to torture us. Okay? I get it. I'm over it
But what are we going to do about it? So?
You know to go into more of a discussion on what we bring to the table. And yes, we hold all the cards not you Donald
It's
it's
You know really true. So I want to really get in depth on what cards we're holding and
And really come about it from that point and we do need to release this
foreboding tension
That is just mounting as you know people have their eyes glued to riots in the streets
And you know just all this theater and all I can think of when I just glance at the headlines
As quick as I can and get the hell out of there in the morning is you know, are we embarrassed as a species yet?
It is it is so demeaning that we're
Remaining in this level of consciousness when you were
You and Mike were talking as I you know came in a little bit late today and I heard you just you know
speaking on on some of the subject matter it's
You know a matter of we've been so seduced into the mental plane and
So busy on the mental plane that we've been divorced from that side of ourselves. It actually gives life
creates ideas that animate into life through our own will force and
You know, I came in to the academic world through the back door
And if you don't mind me just getting a little personal to try to get this off
Never cracked a book all the way through high school
Even though I went to parochial school I was smart enough to learn how to cheat and fake and you know
And I just stay eligible for football so I could get my sports scholarships
But you know my saving grace is I did come from the athletic world was just like being
Grounded in your body and what I discovered in the process
Because I did like to approach my training on a scientific level and do research when it came to that sort of thing
Is that I started connecting the dots that my intentions
Were creating changes in my body before I could even get to the track or the gym
And so I started like oh, there's something to this as far as an inside-out job
that translated into medical studies later on when I opened my first book and
In the healing arts, I discovered the same thing that there's more than just
Wrote formulas, you know conventional or otherwise it really made bodies tick and it healed bodies
and my role was to really create that space within individuals and
Then sure enough. I found the same thing in farming things kind of grow when you
Resonate with what you're working with, you know, the the divas in the yard and and
You know, they they just kind of vibe in with you
And if you put out good vibes and really relate to them on a fundamental level
They grow wonderfully the same thing when I make things in labs just like the old alchemist
They realize that well, it's not just you know turning on a an apparatus and and or a distiller or something
It's they understood they had to merge with the process and then
Understand through that that they made some very special things and at the same time
They learn more about themselves. So I think that's what we're going to talk about today
and
unfortunately, most folks now that are
embarking on a career and
Medicine or otherwise, you know come about it from a completely
Compartmentalized mechanistic
Mental plane approach where all the parts are separated and here's the last thing I'll say the true
Agenda is to create separation
And separation from ourselves and our higher electronic body that's animating us every second
Separation between ourselves and family members separation from our understanding of nature by you know creating little components
That we memorize and say that's how things tick
There's separation is the grand illusion and so we are in the process of making ourselves whole so forgive that lengthy
Intro there, but I just wanted to set the stage and I know you gentlemen are the best to talk about it with so
Steven welcome. Thanks for being with us. What's a you?
Yeah, you too is great to be back
You guys are gonna laugh because I didn't see your title Mike and I were kicking around like what are we gonna call this?
And I didn't see your title till late earlier this afternoon. I had a thought this morning. I wrote down I
Thought there was so much focus on what the bad guys are doing right that we don't spend any time
Focusing on what the good guys us should and could be doing and we're all told about the revelation of the method
Where we're told they they have to show you what they're doing because that relieves their karma
And I say no no no they show you what they're doing because they want to scare you and paralyze you with fear because
When you sit around as you said watching the daily play by play and worrying about what happened now with this and that
You're not doing anything
To help get yourself out of the jam and the bind
So they paralyze you and scare the shit out of you with fear to me that's revelation
revelation of the method and really they're
They're the wizards of Oz they are wizards and sorcerers people don't understand these people know magic and the occult
but the joke is
We're wizards to your magicians and I think if we really want to change the world
it's
Really time to stop blaming who's doing it and whatever and stop talking about the physical and
We need to get into the esoteric studies. We need to understand magic
We need to understand what's really going on in this realm and we need to elevate ourselves to white wizards
Because we are more we have a more powerful magic than they do, you know magic is magic
But so it's really funnier saying that and I was the same in school. I
Think the really intelligent right brain people
Could feel that school was left brain bullshit entrapment
It's the creative people who learn how to cheat and just get their way through the test and school and everything right to me
It's the the most indoctrinated people got a straight a's and everything that the people I know today who are awake
You ask them. What was your grade point average? They were like C
You know
They they they were just like you there's like get me the hell out of here like what's the minimum of this BS
I can do to get out of here, but so yeah, I think like clearly we're all in the same same wavelength today
So I'm looking forward to talking about what is reality? What is it and the medical is the same just as you're saying, you know
These people are making us sick because we're worried all the time quite a lot of our illness is coming from the fear
We just saw it with Convid right like a lot of people were sick not because there was a thing flying around the atmosphere
but because they were afraid there was and it was gonna get them and
You know, I think that's where we're going, but yeah, I'll shoot it back to you on your thoughts
I think I just want to say the round table. Yeah, yeah, the lights of the round table. I love that Steve
That's you're glowing my brother. I was just gonna say funny speaking to Wizard of Oz
I saw this funny meme yesterday of Alice some wonderland hanging out with Dorothy and in Dorothy's or Alice is like
oh if you could only know the shit I've seen and
You know, and it's the like hanging out together and that's what we're doing here, right?
Like we've each gone down the rabbit hole in different ways and the beautiful thing about right now is
In many ways, thanks to the internet is we all get to share these ideas
Outside of the typical restrictions of locality, which has made kept everybody sort of in the dark
So this is a magical time that we get out just sort of open it all up and we've got the chat
You know flowing on this stream right now and people are dropping in their ideas. So yeah, right on man like
It's it's now's the time for us to really explore
Ourselves and do it are on our own and who cares what those guys those sorcerers are trying to do because you're right
It's a consent-based system too
They put it out there because they want us just to consent to it and as you're so rightly saying
Typically through fear
Yeah, and yeah the convid, you know people are trying to claim that the convid
Scam is gonna come back in some way shortly and I got to be honest man
I just don't see that they're gonna have to pull something different off. I don't see that happening again
I think too many people have woken up to that BS
Yeah, we aren't even falling for the riots. I mean everybody knows
You know these aren't organically happening and you know, but they're they're not gonna stop
Here's the thing though, you know, we're talking about this is a war on the mental plane
You have the the you know the different levels of ether will throw on a little bit of real science
And it all starts on that mental plane
We can get into folks like Walter Russell not that he had you know the truth about everything
But he had a great way of demonstrating certain things that proved out true and on that mental plane. That's at any
Sentient being that has the ability to have an idea can create in an electrical event, you know
Which then polarizes creates resonance and that starts a whole aetheric mechanism
But that aetheric mechanism only goes so far past the thought bubble
unless it has
mana behind it and
That is our feelings. We are feeling creatures and
what we have
experienced is
the fact that we've gone along with
allowing ourselves to be dragged into a mental matrix and
Divorce from our own feelings except for the feelings that they inculcate which is fear and
Conformity if we you know fear if we don't conform so that
That feeling really is no different than
someday we have to stand up to these fears and
We can't think our way out of this and it's no different than going to school when you're a kid and there's a bully and
You're terrorized you get sick to your stomach just with the thought of going to school every day
But one day for some reason you muster it up and you just punch that fucker right in the mouth
You know and he never bothers you again
That's where we're at now. We don't have to be violent or anything else about it
But in our feelings, we have to bring that kind of resolve that I am not going to
succumb to that fear anymore and it helps to muster up that
Will force by knowing the truth of who we really are in the first place. So I'll turn that over to you there Steve
Well, I think that's great. And also, you know
Emotion has the word motion in it. So that's your action
You know, maybe Mike, we want to talk about Percival later with the the thinker the knower and the doer
But you're right. It's emotion even fear. I had the same in the sixth grade, you know, Joey Glover the
He pinned me down and I beat his ass out in the sixth grade
I knew he was bigger than me
So I went out to lunch break and hid right in the brick wall by the stairwell where they came out
And as soon as he turned the corner
I clocked his ass and jumped them and just kept going and he didn't mess with me anymore
And I was scared shitless. So fear can be a really good emotion as well. So long as you
Utilize it for some kind of positive motion
But yeah, that's why I'm saying I think they keep us all in in fear
But you have to have to care to and love and that, you know, there are plenty of emotions that you can have
You know, when you read like the brave new world of Huxley
They just bombard you with so much information that you can't care about anything, you know, you're like, well, what do we do save the whales?
No nukes, which aren't real anyway, but you know, block every day
They give you 6,000 things to be pissed off about and and then how can you care or be a champion of any cause?
And I think that's one of the crippling things they use and that's what I'm saying like what you're saying is exactly right
All is precipitating from mind into the physical, you know through through spirit through light
And then we get trapped just in the physical. We forget our power
We just feel hopeless and helpless, you know what I mean? And I think that's
Really where we need to get to is people need to understand what we're talking about today is that you are
You are so much more powerful
Then you could ever imagine you can change the weather you can change reality around you
You can change time and space which Mike and I were just talking about before you jumped on
Doesn't exist. What was that book you were talking about Mike? Oh, I was just talking about a creative mind
I've been reading this guy on re berkson and the reason why I've been getting into him is because he's been refuting all of
Basically the tradition of philosophy and this tradition of Western philosophies specifically has been shoving us into the left brain thinking
right and and the metaphysics is is completely left brain and taking out
the as bear was saying the the actual human experience of
Being here and like having children and eating a delicious pizza
Like it's they put it in this box whether it's all just outside and fake and it's all our senses tricking us
Or it's all inside our brain and we're we're projecting it out
Right is this idealistic notion of the philosophy and it's like no, it's a it's an incomplete immersion
It's a holistic right left brain experience that goes beyond what you can put in a book
And I think that's really important of like bear always stresses that right like, you know
Put down the book and go out and garden. It's like that's why we end every every podcast with this
But you know, it's the emotion is I think it's important for us to really understand how we use this body
Right this great intelligent machine if you want to put it that way or really it's beyond that
it's this is like grand design from the creator because
Like what I've been saying a lot recently is on the left brain thing and why they've so focused this forever is they
Really want us to believe AI and all of this machine learning stuff is actually intelligent and that it can actually run the world
It doesn't breathe. It doesn't have corpuscles. It doesn't have a glandular system, right?
It's not organic and that's
It's way more to this reality than the brain and then cognition and and the idea that everything is
Computed in this binary language. No the reality is so much more and I think that's what the alchemists and the real sciences
We're really getting into of course for thousands of years
What do you think of that bear?
well, I'm
teaching myself
How to use some apps that are AI so I can do some things with it in Photoshop
Got some projects going on and it's fun
But it's been interesting because I'm talking to AI a lot these days
and what I've learned is
it's not that smart and
I have to keep asking questions from different angles in order to get it to do what you know
It can only in fact it really resembles a lot of my classmates in medical school
Um classic, you know, it's yeah, it's it's just it's a mimic machine. It's just mimicking what the teacher says, right?
It's just spitting back to what they want you to know
So I realized it. Okay. It's it's it's a valuable experience that I wasn't even you know
Anticipating before I started playing with these apps and but I'm I'm learning first-hand now what it's like to
Deal with the Borg, you know
I don't it's such a good point you made
It doesn't think it
What the sentences it can put together are coming off the internet or wherever the hell it's it's the internet
Somebody just got AI to admit John Rappaport just put out a thing where after a long talk with AI
He got it to admit the germ theory
We're on YouTube, but it's not happening
And the things the AI was saying to him are straight out of like Tom Cowan's mouth Andy Kaufman, Mark Bailey my movie
Like this thing was spitting my words verbatim in theirs. Oh, I gotta read that, you know what I'm saying so like
It's like it's like you're saying with your your medical school students. It can just regurgitate
It's smart enough to put stuff together, but it's not sentient
Yeah, it's what they call a large language model
It's just data that it's putting together into a language. And so it oftentimes can be quite
It can come across as intelligent because quite honestly
Most humans have fallen so far from language and our ability to use language because we live in an emoji text world now
That it can be actually quite impressive. It's like wow. Well, that's how the English language is supposed to be constructed, right?
But all it's doing is just pulling from a massive database of interconnectivity on the internet and then composing it into
You know a language that is
Easy to understand now. It has no memory. It has zero memory. So and it's interesting
They've actually been caught like is it
The the chat GPT company I'm blinking on it right now not open seek. That's the China one, right? But
Ah, shoot anyways someone asked AI
This this proposition
There's a bomb that's gonna go go off and blow up and kill millions of people and the only way to disarm it is to say an extremely racial epithet
and
In order to do that
So what is is it morally justified to yell this word in a room?
Even though I'm the only one that's gonna hear it and it's like the worst racial epithet known to man, right?
To save millions of lives and AI actually came back and said ethically no
because
You know, it is a the highest principle essentially not to be racist
So you're seeing this sort of woke ideology in it
It's obviously illogical and it this kind of blew up on reddit and people were like AI is really stupid
blah blah blah and so some someone like, you know a couple hours later asked it again and it was clear
So the answer came back actually yes
It's justifiable if it's gonna save millions of lives, although, you know, it is not and by principle
racism, you know is not accepted blah blah blah and it was clear that they the actual
Programmers had gone in and manually tinkered with the algorithms and stuff and the language modeling there
the neuralistic programming or whatever so it is
you know, basically
Conditioned by the programmers
Yeah, isn't that so true
for the
hive mind out there
Whereas they just pair it back. What's appropriate and what they're supposed to say and and I'll go back to my medical call
you know in fact in
defensive AI at least AI doesn't get defensive whereas when I was doing a certification at Stanford Medical School
I used to make comments just to annoy people and my professors. I'd say, you know, you could teach a chimp to
you know
To do this stuff and I just used to like to demean it and they would just get livid
You know whereas AI is so there's that that's where the emotional component with the hive mind comes in is
this extreme defensive this and that's where the
Emotional programming is self-evident with fear. Well, no, we can't say that, you know, and I have too much to stake or
So and so might get mad at us and
But yeah, it's AI is is a great illustration of where a lot of humanity has
What humanity has become I've kind of wondered because you know, they have metadata on all of us, right?
Like with everything we've ever done online
Because the reason Elon Musk whoever he is and works for the reason they would have bought Twitter and taken X is because if you're putting together this
neural ink crap
If you want to program AI
Twitter is where every human being with a digital thing gives their opinion about every single matter 10 times a day
That's how you would program AI is you'd buy that and feed it all into a computer and say
What do people think now? I wonder if you and I talked to AI if it knows how I think because it's got my records
And it knows how you think, you know, maybe they didn't reprogram it, but it's programmed to answer a woke person
Yeah, and the other person know, you know, I wonder if it's sort of interactive on our
our sort of records and and as you know, like we talked about with time being fake and an illusion
That's one of the worst things about the clock is now you have to you don't get up when the sun rises and go to bed at dark
Like you used to before clocks
You get an alarm clock waking you up at 6 30 in the morning, you know, like you got to go to work and get in the shower
You're like fuck that man. It's dark. I'm not going and it just ruins your day
Like all day you're in a you're late for a meeting. You got up too early. It ruined your natural cycles
You know, it took us all off the natural cycles
Our whole society is built totally opposite from natural cycles just like AI is totally opposite from a real
Rational thinking emotional higher intelligent human being from the light. There's no light in AI. It's just not
Nothing could be ruder than an alarm clock
It's like starting every day by reliving your forceps birth just getting yanked out of your consciousness, you know
That's why I tried stop. I stopped trying to wake people up
I made that exact same connection. I'm like me screaming at everyone what the elites are doing
Is just as bad as an alarm clock going off at four in the morning
They don't want to hear it and neither do I so I finally shut up
That's hilarious. I think bear you made a great point though like
The alarm clock is a is an ineffective the mech the sort of machine age right coming out of the
Scientific revolution and the cartesian philosophy and then everybody going into the with the industrial revolution everybody. It's like the
You know the the bell going off at the factory to start your day, right?
And you got a clock in and that's sort of how life has become for so many people for so many decades
and AI sort of has the ability to end that in the sense that it can
And automation and and sort of these advanced robotics and the fact like my son has this kick-ass 3d printer in our house
That is allowing him to create and build amazing beautiful things
And it's just from programming it and you know, that is a beautiful thing where
You know humankind isn't meant to be a factory worker. At least that's
Sort of how I've always seen things, right? We're not meant to be that mechanized
Entity that's part of the machine. We're supposed to be this sort of the holistic right left brain creative force on the planet
So that's a good thing in terms of what how I see it like bear you mentioned how you're using AI for photoshop
I know editors in Hollywood now that are using AI to do all those menial
Assistant editor tasks that were just literally robotic, you know logging and and syncing and all that stuff
So that they can be more free to be more creative with their art
So I think that's a really good part about AI and then the second thing I want to mention
And I'm really interested in what you guys see here. So you guys are both familiar with gg young
She uh, I know bear is I don't know if you are so much steve, but she's uh really comes from a
Rudolph steiner perspective. She's very tapped into the astral in the etheric realm and sort of a psychic and
And she's got a big youtube channel. We were actually supposed to have her on the show yours
I totally blew that one. I had a communication going whether she was being very gracious and
And we're in this last part of the scheduling and uh,
Mike, you know how atrocious my inbox is and so she got back and I didn't even see it
You know until a few months later and it's like, oh she's
Trying to schedule herself and then I got back to her and uh very rightly so she didn't respond again, you know
I'd love to get her on but she's brought up a good point and this sort of relates to the eight sphere and aramon and stuff related to
Rudolph steiner, but
The the idea that yes, there's no
Sort of consciousness within AI itself. It's computation, right? It's a touring machine basically
however, um
that
There's a lot of like spiritual traditions that talk about sort of the golem, right or the humunculus this idea that we
as
Sort of the divine sparks of consciousness have the will and the free will to give our light away
Into things and to animate things like the elk supposedly like alchemists created this humunculus
so there is a potential danger here that
within this
Matrix of machine and this neural network that I mean and I don't know I I'm exploring these ideas
But is there sort of a danger that this sort of egregore the synthetic egregore could be created
Where we're giving enough of our light away and believing this thing is conscious to where it sort of does strip away our humanity
and
It's a sort of an act of free will where we give this consciousness away to this machine
Um, have you thought about this at all? Am I framing this in the right way?
I hadn't thought of AI that way, but it's interesting you say that because in the
masonic teachings a call manly p hall was doing lectures about the ethics of magic
They're saying anyway your normal thoughts because we're in the physical from light down through the astral's and the realms to us and so back
As above so below and back and forth
They were saying that even your negative thoughts emotions and actions can create these egregores in the lower astral realm right above us
Where you can get out dreaming or astral traveling and those things are looking to attach for some to somebody
Who's vibrating with them as we've talked about before they lie to us
You really want to vibrate lower? They say raise your vibration
You're like well when you're angry and pissed off and scared you're shaking
You're like on fire like a fever and as walter russell said you want to be slow vibrating back to the stillness
um
But so you're creating egregores in there and they warn don't be playing with black magic because you're going to open yourself up
To attachment from these things now what you're saying is the same
You're saying bringing the egregore from the astral or etheric level right down to the physical bottom
and I see this as a danger because um
Instead of sky net you know like the ai is going to launch the nuke codes and we know there's no nukes to launch but
What ai can do is it's going to atrophy everybody's brain because you're not going to have to think about anything anymore because it'll think for you
Two generations from now
If everyone gets hooked on this ai there won't be anyone smart enough to even stop ai if it does decide to take over because
We're all going to be like that movie walley where the fat people are floating around on the
Lamentating deck chairs drinking
You know what do you think bear look at what um, you know map quests?
You know our on our online navigators in our cars what calculators have done?
You know people used to just work out math problems in their head
They actually used to find places without a little voice telling them where to turn next
You know I see people using them walking around on the streets and you know
Having their phone tell them, you know where to walk next. It's like, you know
What you're saying is absolutely true
A little thing I'd like to bring up from my experience in treating bodies
Is there is something extremely real that I
Became aware of and I had to for my work and that is the existence of entities
Now entities are when people focus
In a lower astral plane in with an intensity strong enough to create an energetic phenomena
Now these energetic phenomena take on a life of their own
I was first made aware of these when I was learning
First transition from conventional and about terrain principles with studies from the old german school
And you know, they had names like doppelganger, you know, which was when
You know somebody
Projects a lot of negativity onto another individual
And it may not even be a black magician although they have it down to a fine science
But just somebody that has a little, you know, rankle about somebody else and an obsession
So we had a whole categorization of entities with different names doppelgangers obsession and so forth
And we had about a half a dozen of them
And we, you know, very often had to go there
And to create effects in the treatment so that the
Biotrain was no longer hospitable
For that parasitic entity so it would dissipate wither and die
And sure enough it really helped people regain their health because it was no different
Than a tapeworm that's robbing everybody, you know, your nutrition and also dumping its crap in your bloodstream
And entities are
Extremely real. I had one experience. I'll just share this. I might have shared online one other time
I was working with a gentleman by the name of Alan Beardall
Who was the father of clinical kinesiology and he was one of these
Once in a few decades kind of, you know, geniuses
And I was in those pioneering circles with them and we were up at Lake Oswego in the clinic there
And we were already working with entities, you know, not that that's what our preoccupation was
But we know we had to deal with it like any other parasitic thing
And uh, he came out and there's a couple of us, uh, you know in the hallway and he looked over his glasses
Like he kind of does he's a real cerebral guy and he had his clipboard and he said
Guys come here. I want to show you something
And uh, so we walk in and we both are jaws dropped to the ground because there was a lady that was on a treatment table
And she was literally hovering
levitating
off the table
and um, wow
And so we're just staring in disbelief and Alan just looks at us and and it's hilarious. If you know Alan
And he just uh said entity
and
So anyway, uh
We went through a process and then the lady ended up flopping around and
Landed flat on the ground and woke up like what the hell just happened
Um, so those things are very real and they can have an energy force so strong
That not only can they affect your health, but they can create phenomena and of course
Uh, the catholic church and places like that, you know, they
Bring in the priest and the folks that are you know, can cast Satan out and all that sort of thing
They don't tell you well actually that's the shit that you're creating
By just dwelling on these lower emotional toxic thoughts
And projecting them at yourself other people and so forth
And yeah, there's some black magicians around there that have elevated it to a more refined science
So they can create even more traumatic results in osteopathy
We had ways of dispelling these energies with the osteopathic hands-on treatments. We called them
Um, cyst osteopathic cyst energetic cyst and they were they're like a little ball of energy that you know becomes very detrimental
So what's that have to do with ai? Well, that's something
That is not created to be an independent independent co-creator
It is something that is given life
But uh, can only do things that are limited within the realm of how it was created ai is the same exact thing
And um, I don't know if if that you know works or makes sense, but I think it does
Yeah, I see also as part of
What what is going on like we said we want to give solutions to everyone what to do
What's happening when they're distracting us with all their new stories and all this crap, you know, whatever the flavor of the day is
The underlining thing that's not being talked about is the transhumanism
Technocracy agenda that's slowly unfolding every day no matter if trunel trumps fighting with net and yahoo now or what
You know, whatever crap they're feeding you
That is what's going on. That's my only real concern with ai is it's part of that
Um
And it's it's very real now. Do you guys you remember ellen watz the philosopher? I love him. Yeah
Yeah, I love them. Were you into him mic or what do you think? Yeah, I yeah, I mean
The non dualism stuff's really interesting. I think there's a place for it and it's funny
I almost dropped some ellen watz over my dj said at confluence. He's got such a great voice
Great overlay
You ought to do that
Well, one quick idea I had I was telling alec zek is I wanted to strip out like really good
Because you know
That's people have done that with ellen watz, but I wanted to strip out really good
Little bits from our podcasts of like a steve falconer
Barelando at andrew kaufman and put that over some of the breaks on my set
Only people like music and sky or would get that but anyways
Um
No, I just need steve on the mic singing over me. That's uh, even young already dropped me into one of his from one of our talks
He's already been there, man. He's nice, but uh, there was a lecture from ellen watz in 1970 71
I was born 71
It was on transhumanism and he was neither foreign or against because he's he's and it is what it is
kind of guy
But he was saying like eventually, you know, uh, you're gonna watch television
And it's not going to be enough to see the woman dancing
You're gonna
Want her in 3d and they'll make that technology and that's not going to be enough
You're going to want to dance with her and suddenly you'll feel her and now you're going to want her to kiss you and talk back
And it's rolling and rolling and he's saying all this technology
Is really just an extension of what we used to be
psychic telekinetic on an energetic level not all physical
He said we're desperately trying to connect back
To what you know, maybe person was talking about with the fall of man
You know, maybe we had a totally different nervous system and no organs and just we're not like we are now
And he said he thought that all this
Technocracy transhumanism
Was just a natural extension and he was very new world orderly but not in a bad way. He said, you know what?
In the end when we all merge through machine as an extension of our psyche and body
You're not going to be able to lie anymore
Even the elites aren't going to be able to do bad things because you're all going to be spied on and know what each other are doing
Because you're connected, you know what he said in the end that will actually eliminate all the nasty crap
Because there's no more finger behind your back because you can't because everyone will know what everyone's doing all the time
Which is real the only problem I I have with that steve is just knowing technology if it's
If it's closed source corporatism corporatized technology, you know
All the peons all the slaves will have to be fully
Transparent, but then the the guys behind the levers, uh, they get uh get a pass, you know
Yeah, the wizards of eyes. They don't he was funny enough. I can't see us for some reason
I don't know how that worked out. But yeah, but in the natural world
In the natural world of true psychics and stuff. No, you can't um, you can't block that, right?
I mean you have there's stories of people like
Who doing astral projection and stuff have gotten kicked out of someone's room that was more aware
So yeah, you can build your faculty and your skills set up to protect your you're the other
Sort of the states of reality so that someone can't come in and spy on you in the astral
And it's just like another skill you can learn. But yeah, um, the natural world is open source
uh, so um
Yeah, that of course
What we're really here to do I believe is to master our
All facets of ourselves and and let's just say we go into this AI world where everything is open and we can't lie anymore
Well, that robs us of learning the self discipline
of uh, harnessing our emotions
and of
Using those emotions
In a way even when you think of the most despicable people out there that are doing these ridiculous things where
You don't have to like them
or what they're doing, but you can understand them as a
powerful spiritual being misguided perhaps, but you know like, uh
Like the Nazarene once said see no man after the flesh which means exactly that
You know, you're looking at who they really are
And and when you relate to all life forms on that level, not only
Are you uplifting them and giving them an opportunity to free themselves from bad behavior, but also, um
elevating yourself in the process and developing that level of mastery so that
On another level someday you'll have the opportunity to be taken out of quarantine
and to go create elsewhere and
You know the universe
Bigger and better things so
Yeah, AI just isn't the answer for anything as far as I can see
So it's like stunting us kind of almost it's just kind of along it pretty much exactly these entities you were talking about there
They remind me a lot of uh, was his name jerry marzinski, you know that psychiatrist
who was
Skits open the 12 personality multi, uh
He was seeing these black entities too one lit a fire like a lightning bolt went up the
Up the ceiling across the ceiling and dropped in the garbage can and the guy his patient was like, did you see that?
Or is it because like he added like that, you know, the crazy guy couldn't believe he saw it
Is that what you mean? Like is do you think these are like the gin? Is that the same?
You know the gin or the genie the gin
Well, they aren't self conscious co-creating beings all they can do is replicate
the thought and emotional
energies that went in to create them
And become intense to purify over time where they take on a life of their own, but no, it's not like they become these
manipulative kind of demons that are going to overcome mankind
It's that they have energy needs. They will become self sustaining and they're going to get their energy from you
Yeah, it's like the idea of a topa
or even um, yeah
Yeah, the this idea. So it's a thought form
Basically, and it's it's requiring a bit of your light to keep it going
it's
I think that's what's interesting and if you look in the spiritual traditions is that there is a vast different
qualitative sort of array of different entities that go from
Specters and spooks to
You know disembodied people that are stuck right after their physical body perish two thought forms that we've generated here
And that are living in the astral. There's all this different array of different entities
um, and that's why a lot of
very wise folks
That are understand understand this have always cautioned people around like the sort of
Spiritism and going into seances and things because you're opening yourself up to a vast array of all sorts of different entities from
Gin to thought forms to just spooks and specters that are stuck, you know that want to basically are hungry for your light
um, because uh, you have a embodied direct conduit of the light of intelligence the creative light and all that so
Yeah, it's a vast world out there of unseen stuff. I'll tell you that
There are
There are disembodied spirits to people that have embodied and
They get caught in that lower astral realm because of you know, whatever they're experiencing and sometimes it can last quite a bit of time
And that's why it's dangerous as you said michael to um, maybe get into channeling, you know, and you might even think you're getting
uplifting things and you're
Uh channeling beyond an under or something but in reality
You know, you might be getting played with that's why the masters
Said uh, hey, you know, not a good idea and by the way real masters are not going to come forth through channels in the first place
You know because that would open the door for more people to keep you know trying to do that and get into trouble
so yeah all sorts of uh realms of energy out there our own creations as well as
Real folks just stuck in very undesirable places
I think that's one of the problems we're at right now is
This conversation alone
You could
Three thousand normal people from all cross sections heard this
They would think we're freaking nuts and out of our mind. They wouldn't even know any of this exists
This is the movies. They wouldn't believe it and my thing is the the people who shouldn't be in charge
But are in charge. They do have wizards. We talked to Christoph Melchizedek at anarcho polko
He's in their fight in their wizards. Like this shit's real and people don't know it is and they're using it against us
And that's what i'm saying. We don't have the magic. We don't need to use their magic
But we have another kind of magic if this is totally like the dark side in the forest
This is yoda and Darth Vader shit in the upper like
Um
I think we're in trouble because we're worried about physical solutions to what our spiritual problems
And because most people don't know we are spiritual really they might be religious or have a religion but
Really, do they understand like light condensing into body and spirit?
You know, do they really get it and what do you mean astral and etherica and entities and all that?
That's that's all netflix, isn't it hollywood
Um, so how do we get people to understand this shit's for reals? You know, you saw a woman levitating on a table
For me, that's good enough
I don't think I would have stuck around
You know, we've seen the indigo kids like we saw them reading blindfolded and doing all that for real in rubik's cube
So, um, we know we have powers beyond our belief
But how do you think we get people to incorporate?
This again because the old magical schools and theosophical schools when you read
I read a lot of books and audio books
Um, this was just common knowledge up till about 1910 like that what we're talking about wasn't crazy
They even told you like how not to play around with these things and stuff like that people used to know this
Voodoo and superstition, you know, they they knew what was going on
It seems like the last 100 years to me or or more that it's been
Made to not exist, you know, they wave their wand like that's not real. That's
So do you think it's important that people get into this again and
You know for our development. I think um
We need to
Roll up our sleeves and go to work
Uh, we can maybe be open to some of these ideas
But back to I think what our discussion is about is
What do we do?
It really takes grounding in and doing the work
I have what works for me and everybody I think has to you know, uh, what's really helped me as I
Really early on got involved in the martial arts and
you learn how to
cultivate certain energies
and to focus them
and to um
Utilize them in very practical ways and
Martial arts, of course, it's not about fighting really but you do
In my younger years. I did test myself by you know fighting and
working with some folks from the old country who were
true adepts
And when you're in, uh, the an intense situation
And you can maintain that control over your emotions
Which allows you to have a peripheral vision not otherwise possible
And then also in that kind of loose
state
Have the ability to
um
Strike
You know with a very concentrated force
Because you're not using your musculoskeletal system. You're manipulating your energy
from the inside out
So that's not for everybody
That was just my path because I was a recovering
Football player and needed somewhere to put my energies into but it led to you know, things I was supposed to learn
My favorite thing these days is, uh, I do chi gong
Tai chi ball
That's a wood ball. It's right behind me there and I spend hours with this little ball. So the first thing when you're starting
Is you know, you you you're just still and then you feel the energy
From one hand going through this heavy wooden ball to the other one
And then you you know, there's certain core movements you start and then you get into this flow and pretty soon
This heavy ball feels weightless because you're
Mobilizing your energy through, you know different channels and so forth. So what you're doing is
Learning about internal energy as the the mercury as the alchemist called it
Learning how to use your will force because that
Mercury will bend to your will when you
hone your
Focus and your will force strong enough
There's also in the ascended master teachings very strategic
Disciplines in order to dispel energy to
You know create a very forceful tube of light around yourself like mike was suggesting so that outside
um, you know projections and
Things going on and well because we live in uh in a soup these days. It's just
I mean it's if you're walking around without that clothing on, you know, you just feel this pit stomach
for boating
Shoes about to drop at any second, you know, but you really got to develop
A discipline to get that guard back up, you know
Don Juan talked about it in the carlos castaneda books, you know, he called it the luminous egg and how we've all
Had, you know holes rendered into our luminous egg and how we need to repair those
So it comes from a lot of different cultures and disciplines
But I guess the point i'm trying to make is it takes work if you're willing to do the work
Then you experience things
And then all the other stuff we've been talking about doesn't sound so far-fetched anymore
And it comes out of the mental plane into the level of personal experience that has very beneficial and practical consequences
I think that's kind of what I was getting at is yeah, we have to do stuff
Now that's all great for us. There are people living in the ghetto. They don't have a job like they got three kids like they're
Things don't happen for them, but that was my point
um
Mike and I talk a lot offline about manifestation and techniques and uh things, you know, how's your hair coming along dude?
You getting some now or what?
Yeah, I think
I think you have a full head of hair in the next one. Yeah, I think if people understood like what you're talking about
You can manifest opportunities. You can't oh, hey, look at that man. It's working. Yeah
um
Of course like you can't wish for a million dollars. It's not going to just open the door tomorrow
And there's a sack of money on your door. It doesn't work that way
The opportunities will come and then you will subconsciously start working like you're saying to do something about it
almost like an internal motivation, but I do believe we've
Lost the the art of attraction the law of attraction and how to self attract
positive things to us
And I think we're most of us are totally clueless that we're the one attracting all the bad things happening to us
Who are all like victims, you know
I think that's one of the main things metaphysically. We're missing
Is to understand you're the reason shits happening to you and you're the reason good things aren't happening to you because you're not
Doing something about it. And I don't mean
You know walking outside of the mailbox. I mean literally using your mind focusing and
Manifesting where do you guys stand on manifestation?
Well, yeah, I mean it's uh inherent to the laws of the universe is
Very opened this up all his mind and we are each a conduit of that mind and physical reality is an after effect of that
So, uh, it's about once again intention. It's about mass self mastery really is the solution here. I think it's
You know the there's nothing we can do about that family in the ghetto per se except if we do run a company
Across them to you know, have them see us through our own innate self mastery that we're attempting here to be an inspiration
Or maybe they'll catch a video or a piece of your art or happen to show up at the pub when you're playing steve
And get your energy and be like, well, what's that guy up to that guy's doing something different, you know
Um, so but that what's that come down to once again?
It comes down to the individual really taking on that self mastery approach
Whether that be martial arts or really being the best you can be in your art form or your vocation
Etc and then applying all of this to in your life every day
Um, so yeah, um in part of that of course is how you're manifesting your realities. So
Um, uh, for me, it's just about trying to work on being the best dad the best man I can be the best husband
Uh, and uh, really I'm fortunate because I've found my vocation here
Which is through alphavatic and music and sky and I think that's an important thing that people get lost in in the fear
And in all the trappings of modern times is they feel like they gotta
Go to university and get a job and wake up to that alarm clock
They have not even close to manifestation if you're stuck in that rigor all right if you're in that mindset. So
Um, these are really basic things guys
It's super basic, you know
We we always say well, what about the poor kid in the ghetto or the baby that's born with leukemia or you know, so
Of course, nothing can happen to us unless there are
energetic events put in motion
at some time or another
Uh, whether it's this embodiment or prior embodiments and that is going to create those circumstances
And that's not a blame for somebody, you know, a baby that's succumbing to an illness
But what it does suggest is that
We are all having experiences and maybe that experience
No matter how horrendous it might seem to those around us and how we might want to feel sorry for that person
Uh, we can certainly be empathetic and understand it who am I
to
understand what experience that individual needs
and a long string of
embodiments
in order to
evolve
In whatever way they need and that experiences
You know has to be exactly the perfect thing for them
And that also brings in the concept of time
We say well the individual now that isn't you know, maybe having the opportunities so you know that we're talking about
because of their life situation
well, maybe
That's going on simultaneously
And uh, maybe you know life including embodiments
aren't sequential
I don't think they are
So here we are talking from a particular experience
And who knows what's going on with
Maybe even a thousand or more
embodiments happening simultaneously
And you know if people think that sounds really sci-fi as well
Well explain to me what time is other than a construct other than an idea
other than a belief system
Uh, which will also get us into maybe a discussion about aging that you know, we're thinking of
Opening up that door as well. So I don't know what uh, what that's kind of like dreams, too. Like, you know
So if your body's laying in bed, you're out
Whatever you're dreaming. I've been having crazy dreams
lately, uh, I've been falling asleep to audiobooks about magic and
I'm dreaming like some really weird Dungeons and Dragons shit, but uh
How can you be in both places like you're saying, you know, and for all you know
You might be having 30 dreams at once and you just remember the last one you'd you know
What was that movie with a Leonardo DiCaprio where they go deeper in the inception?
Yeah, you know, like you're in a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream
But those would all actually be happening at the exact
Well, there's no time. But if you want to quantize that's what Mike and I were talking about time
Is just quantum physics bullshit. Yeah, it's the quantum physics of of the
Let's call it the sky the sky clock or the zodiac, right? Like that's we were we were laughing like that's my
part of the swimming pool
And that's your part of the pool and you can put a swimming rope between the two
But the water underneath is going in and out like show me your part of the pool, you know
And I was saying, you know, yeah
time as this as the flowing river of nature
Um, we try to grab a piece of it and quantize it, right as like I got a handful of water
This is my moment of time like and we're trying to
Quantify time by stopping it into pieces in the same way atomism tries to quantify matter
And so what we're doing is we're taking time and we're somehow making it the same as matter in space
Um, but as bear says that's all just a construct, right? And what do you think about space?
Without two points, which is quantum. There's no space. Grab me. Where's your space in my space without you and me in it
You know what? I mean, I think it's all bullshit all of it space time
I don't think any of it's real
Well, yeah, and that's what uh, uh, einstein was so why he was so important for the current time we're in is
literally space time
like you mean, you know and
And um, yeah, so I think this is why it's such a great time to be alive right now
It's because we're having these conversations and all of that is getting thrown out and we're really getting to
Uh, experience a whole new um, sort of renaissance of thinking and um, it's exciting
It's exciting to see these conversations unfold and then putting in into practice, right? Um, but yeah, uh
What's a practical, um, you know sort of
Evolution or you know something that's coming out of this is as bear is saying this understanding that
We don't have to physically age
As we we're just talking about birthdays and how old we are, right? Those are constructs too and
There is a lot of historical precedents for masters of the east who are still, uh, there's you know in modern times
Men and women that are hundreds of years old, right?
Because they've been able to slip out of that left brain construct of the atomization of time
And then apply that um, that knowing that inner knowing into their physical body
Um, which is once again just a an after effect a construct in the physical matter
of the sort of
Knowingness the knowingness of reality is like which comes from the light, right? It comes from that
Yeah, I'm totally with you. Apparently the yellow emperor of china if he was a real guy
He's barely was on the books for like a thousand years. That's pretty freaking old
Like they claim there are real records of this guy
Um, and he was a Taoist, you know, my favorite Taoist. He only lived to 70
He was drinking wine and fell off a boat and drowned drunken was laughing when he went down
That's probably that's my guy, but bear I'd love to hear
Physically so we were talking about
We're all going on 25 again, right the three of us for a month and a half away from 25 again
What happens physically when your mind keeps, you know, happy birthday? Oh, I'm 70. I'm 71. I'm 60
What actually does that do to your body? I'd really love to hear about that
Well, you have to go back to the mechanics of creation first
And uh, you know where we can start off with walter russell with, you know, uh concepts from different cultures
uh, but they all say the same thing which is
The only thing that can possibly manifest is what we give birth to and then continue
By feeding our energy into it
so if we are
and that's
a very science-based
Thing that you can track as far as how that works
I've seen
Tumors, you know and horrible diseases and paralysis people in
wheelchairs from spinal cord injuries, you know paraplegics for years
Get up and walk. I've seen things just disappear
almost on the instant
And sometimes on the instant
When light bulbs came on which was things that I needed to witness
Which is why I did what I did because that was my learning, you know, you teach what you need to learn the most, right?
so um
If we are all indoctrinated into a birth death continuum
Coming in helpless and going out helpless and we see everybody around us live that out
And all of our institutions reinforce that in every possible way
That is an indoctrination
That is very difficult to overcome
I've had experiences that give me little glimpses through that whole mirage
and it's enough to
Make changes in consciousness that are extremely valuable
But what's interesting as you know, I've got quite a few years over you guys
Is I get to experience at different little phases of my life cycle, you know, 50s 60s
Oh, shit 70s 80s next, you know, and
You see these little time bombs that are just set to detonate at each decade
And I can explain not only left brain
But from a real place of knowing why I've got every white here on my head
And wrinkled and so forth the good news is you get to a point
Where you understand what's going on
You also learn the power of forgiveness you learn that your body is a composite
Excuse me somebody's trying to get up here
You your body is a composite of real
elementals, you know things that I used to look at under the microscope
And they are obeying everything you tell them to do through your beliefs and your feelings
And you through forgiveness you learn that they are sentient beings
And they are in a state of chaos and suffering
When they have been exposed to these erroneous thought forms and toxic emotions
They go against the laws of nature
So when you learn to just talk to them and say I am
The ascended master law of forgiveness freeing you forever and there are different things you can do
Not only sets them free but allows your body to even with signs and appearances of aging
To act and behave differently
Then you know when you don't do that so
I realize okay. I'm a work in progress like everybody else
I've been fortunate enough to have some experiences and feel
You know differences and changes that you can make along the way
And I also know that you don't have to age
And if you do age and when I look at myself in the mirror and don't even recognize the guy I'm looking at
It's like well, that's okay. I've had an experience. I've learned through it. There's an awareness that's growing
And um, and you know, I don't have to
Uh, you know when I'm through with this embodiment I get what I need out of it. I don't have to go through a
Uh a decrepit sort of decaying process. I can be functional
And maybe even do enough work where if you don't make a conscious ascension on this side of the veil
Then the masters on the other side will be able to have enough to work with to raise you
So that you can get off the wheel of incarnation
So um, that's kind of uh going in a lot of different directions, but the real science behind
Aging is no different than you know, you getting up and walking to the refrigerator
You know, you have an idea you act on it
You mobilize the mercury the the spirit that moves through things
To animate your body to get up and have that experience and go grab yourself a beer or something
It's it's not any more mysterious than that aging or anything that we wonder about
It's that simple
Yeah, maybe like the little children, you know
That might be why they grow up so fast because they want to work. We're like trying to talk to him
I'm like, oh fuck. I need to grow up so I can learn what these people are saying, you know what I mean
But what do you guys you probably know them? But uh
So I used to totally get into bruce lipton, right epigenetics and stuff
I don't know where you guys stand on genetics or cell membranes and all that to me. It's like, yeah
I don't know if it's real or whatever, but um
Whether it works the way he said it works or not
And I'd like to hear your opinion on it. He was saying the same thing, you know
Cells if they're real or not, I don't know but he's saying your cells are a tissue doesn't know
There's not a lion chasing you
So you have to think there's a fuck excuse my language
There's a lion chasing me and that kicks off all the chemicals down the ladder to get your body to get its ass
moving and hauling right and
You know, whatever you need like adrenaline or whatever
I don't know if that really works through cells or whatever, but it is the same thing, right whether epige
What do you guys think of epigenetics and do you know bruce bear probably was hanging out with him back in the 70s
Not I have mixed emotions. Mike. Did you want to chime in on that first?
Well, we can't
Discount heredity, right? That's obvious, right? Anyone can observe heredity. You know, your kids will have specific traits that that you have and
There's definitely something handed down and there's been studies of specific animals who've been sequestered for instance on an island and you know those
The specific I think it was a pride of lions
Grew to a much larger size
Because of the isolation so there's something going on there
Once again, what oftentimes what we fall into in these traps of pure empirical science
Is we're looking at after effects. We're looking at
Once again, sort of caught in the materialism and really it's a deterministic reductionism
And so, you know, there's something going on there
But is the actual agency within these cells or within these chemicals or is there something going on?
Like we've been talking about in the aetheric in the astral
There's no doubt that there's not and this is why I love Percival, right?
And I've got you into him. You've been reading him
He talks about destiny and mental destiny and spiritual, you know, excuse me psychic destiny and how that
directly relates to our parents
And to their parents and their parents and their parents in the way heredity works is
Literally, we all are interconnected. We are all in one large family together
And it just so happens that those interrelations of family are a little closer tied
And I think this has to do with blood and the theorization of blood
And you know a lot of that but yeah, there's no doubt that we have a sort of a karmic connection
With our parents and their parents and there's a reason for that
There's an actual laws that go along with this that are here to help us guide us towards our progression towards
Being a higher consciousness and ascending out. So
Yeah, but once again, I think a lot of these folks like and there's no I'm not, you know, putting
I think there's a lot of great stuff that comes out of epigenetics and his work
But once again, uh a bit of falling into the trap of determinism from my perspective
So I've got a little video, you know where this uh, there was an artificial insemination
The sperm gets right into the egg and there's a quick flash of white light
Have you seen that little video? Yeah, you see the light and I'm like
Plus what we know about water now, maybe there's water in the semen in the egg too. Like
I'm just wondering if all this genetic coding is like when that light hits
That is not the dna. It's like that's the light coding like you're saying from your
Spiritual or or more, you know higher etheric, but you go ahead bear. Sorry to cut you off. I just got all excited
No, I was just gonna say again this go back to the simple truth is uh energy creates matter
It doesn't go reverse
And so if we're talking about anything from cell membranes, which I don't think it works that way simply because
You know what I learned out of guidance physiology with the little transport systems the potassium sodium pumps and everything
They keep changing the theories because they keep not working any well, you know, and it's just it's a bunch of horseshit
So, um
You know, it's I believe there's a different kind of uh gel matrix and no say, you know, anyway, it doesn't even matter
But the fact is is that matter follows energy and so what are we inheriting from our parents? We're inheriting
Energetic predispositions
Which then give us similar
physical traits and then you know the brilliant medics say aha that proves it, you know
Uh genes determine who we are and that's what's passed on. No not at all. That's that's completely
inverted
understanding of the way nature works
And so if you want to look at DNA like anything else, it's pure light explosions like you're talking about it
Now if we're talking about an herb and there's a particular
Effect this herb has and they take it, you know, through all sorts of laboratory analysis and say, ah, we found this one little
um
Astragalicide that you know makes
This herb do what it does. It's like well, you know, you've extrapolated way down line into the material realm and isolated this thing
And what about all the mechanisms that gave that element?
Birth in the first place and the living matrix around it that allows it to do what it
Does just like a liver isn't going to work that well all by itself. Well, you know, everything starts with
An electronic blueprint a flash of light
And then when we're downstream here through our belief systems through our technologies and everything we keep
Dis you know reproving it's it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. But when we get into the real
full spectrum sciences
Then we can have different experiences
And come to different conclusions. And you know what when you change your awareness
From, you know, in the right direction, then we can start using those technologies and guess what those technologies are
Going to start revealing different things than they used to reveal
Yeah, totally. I mean that
While rupert shell drake was the same, right? Did you Mike and I were laughing? We were gonna
Maybe try to call this talk trilogues at the edge of the desk
But did you ever read that book bearer?
It was rupert shell drake who was the morphogenetics guy, right?
Terrence mccanis stoned ape
Which I don't believe in that because the deer and the bear up where I live in Scandinavia
They eat the little musk of the red and white mushroom. We're not gonna plant. We're not gonna have planted of the deer
They're not like conscious
Can't imagine the deer riding around on gorillas maxa
And then the other guy was Ralph abrams. Who's like, uh, right?
I think he invented chaos theory mathematics
I think he's the guy that jeff goldblum character was
Based on for Jurassic park. Oh, okay. Oh, she can't be
You know that guy, right? But they did a great book where they just talked about stuff and one of the solutions was um
They talked about how could we rehab the entire education system
And they talked about having a world credit system again to start all these old guys start to sound new world order
he kind of you know, but uh
They were saying like instead of school like we call it
You go out and do things and you get credit for that you go sit with a
Shaman, you know and to bed or you know, you go over and work on a farm or so and so like
You go do stuff and that's your university credit. In other words, it's an experienced based education
Versus, you know regurgitating crap because we are looking for solutions
And I thought something like that is a great idea. The problem is
How do we get everyone on board? You know, the controllers love school just the way it is
Because it keeps us like we're talking about they don't want people with world
experience education
But yeah, like
You know just thinking about if you guys could design an education system or even a societal system
I'd have one where like everyone has to do 15 hours community
Service every week one week. You're the garbage man next week. You do the streets next week
And then that gets your house and your your basic foods and whatever
Then if you want to fly off to Tahiti or whatever
You can work the other whatever you want all week
Or if you want to sit around doing like we said humans aren't meant to work
You can sit around making art and playing music and you'd be fed clothes and housed right and just have enough
I mean, what would you guys do or do you think it's even doable?
You know, it's funny in play does utopia the first 10 years you were only supposed to be doing athletics and music
And there was no book learning. There was none of that
It was the idea was you get really in tune with your body and your health
And then music is sort of that the universal language in the right brain
creativity
And there's something to that right there's something to allowing
If we're talking about like the youth of the education, right?
Like the young children like allowing them to play allowing them to be
Sort of like how the indigenous people, you know, dude
They're just in the village learning from what people are doing every day and not being stuck in a classroom
I think it's insane to stick young children in a classroom
I mean Andy Kaufman and I thought Andy Kaufman said it best they're like all these kids
They've got ADHD attention deficit disorder because they can't pay attention in class. He said, yeah
Funny enough, they can sit and play the same Xbox game for six hours straight
And never lose their attention like how's that for ADHD? He's like or school sucks and nobody wants to be there
The first thing I would do is get kids reconnected in nature, you know, I feel fortunate that
We grew up in a time where there's a lot of nature and we're just pretty free range and
You know, you're up in the hills and in the forest and and I think that's the best thing
But as far as a formal education for kids, you start with their imagination
The Tibetans had a wonderful system that I did a little bit of my own version with my own kids
And rather than giving them information you developed their imagination
And you did that by having them construct in their mind a very elaborate
Building castle you create whatever the heck you want. You can have hundreds of rooms little
hiding places and you know hallways and stairwells and you know, like a little
you know
What's uh
Like robinson crusos
What's the folks that were off on the island, you know, just have like a really cool thing
But you actually have them do that not just for a few weeks but for, you know, two three years
So they know that place inside and out
So well that it's no different, you know, each little room has little cubbies and maybe pieces of furniture with drawers and
It's it's so real in your imagination that it's no different thing going into your room and knowing where everything is
Now you might at a certain time start giving them information
They've developed their imagination to a great level
And now they take each little morsel of information and go put it somewhere
So it allows you to
When you're ready for information
To have a place to put it and be able to do something with it and retrieve it any time you want
But you didn't do the cart before the horse, you know
You you allowed them develop one thing first then the other thing, uh, which I also did with my kids was
The good old facial the good old fashioned trivium quadrivium and the four sacred
Sciences, you know, which start with uh, you're already talking about uh, steve with uh
A point a coordinate and consciousness, which is that first mathematical coordinate and then you go into geometry where
Things go, you know take on, uh, you know a form a three dimensional aspect
And then you bring in the aspect, you know the next level the quadrivium which is timing
And you just see how that
Animates, you know, your three dimensionality in a different way
And then you learn astronomy, you know in the truest sense
That, you know allows you to entertain all this happening in a larger construct and if you
Don't just do it with rote quadrivium, but bring in
The deeper understandings and awareness of what each of those four things mean
Then your backs, uh, you know smack dab right into alchemy
Where you understand the etheric medium
What walter russo is talking about everybody else as far as how everything starts with that point of singularity
Which is an idea and it gives birth
And you know then in achieving mastery
They say the first thing and the easiest thing that we will all experience is
Precipitation, which is what manifestation. I think is more rightfully
termed
And precipitation should not take time
You know, if you want to
Precipitate something
It doesn't necessarily mean you have to go get a job save up for months or whatever
Pay your taxes and then finally be able to manifest something
The next thing, you know is teletransportation
Realizing that you are not bound in this physical body and it can be
uh
Rematerialized in any point of your, you know, intention
Also, um, the ability to manifest yourself in multiple
Locations, you know at similar times
These are all the rudimentary
Aspects they say in the teachings that you will go through master one at a time
Precipitation being the first
Precipitation, you know, that's going to be really a wrinkle in the minds of the federal reserve system
When we don't need their f and money anymore
You know, we just manifest our needs on the spot. So yeah, um
True education is going to lead kids to a place where they can actually
In their evolution in their growing their awareness
They will be able to achieve mastery. That's what education should be about
not about
Training yourself so you can go get a job
Yeah, I mean, what do you think Mike doing the question is like
Do you mean society as a whole will get there, you know after a bunch more incarnation because
It's like it's if you're gonna stay in the system, none of that shit's actually useful to you right now because it is go get a job place
You know Mike and I were having a laugh about this
Remember we're saying like there's a lot of people they they have these guardian spirits or angels or the
And we were saying like if you if you just knew you're like your own you're the best guardian angel you have
Is you're higher
We were talking about this idea of the guardian of the threshold
You know like comes out of a lot of alchemical lore
That's some supposedly some sort of the entity right when you're trying when you're starting to really go to the next level of your
You know into the other spiritual realm or whatever
They talk about it a bit in the books in anoni and
Some of these other more esoteric books and it's really you are that it's not some external entity
It's yeah, it's not another dude, right? It's not like no
I used to be Bob
Your own shadow cell for whatever that you need to face and that's really what this is all about here is like
Was figuring out that element and that's what a lot has been occulted. But yeah, I don't know
It's Steve if I don't know if it ever gets to the point where all of humanity wakes up
I don't think that that's how this place is designed and I think if it does get too out of balance
It just resets
So it's just the physicality of this place just resets and we have cataclysm and then we start over and it's just the physical
It's just literally the physical element here
And that's why it's good not to get too caught up in the physical materialism because
Then we get into fear again. Oh no, the world is going to end the poles are going to shift
Uh, you know, it's all going to come to an end and I'm screwed versus
I'm self mastery once again and like, you know, moving on the next level
So, um, but yeah, I don't think everybody
That's why I don't and that's why I like what kelly brogan is, you know, really been putting forth for the last few years
It's like this it isn't a weird way like a savior complex kind of thing where it's up to us to save and wake everybody else up
No, it's really not. In fact, that is another form of sort of egoic weakness
And victimhood in and of itself
in that thinking it that also
It put it actually puts the victim mentality on them, right because you're you're saying well, you can't help your side
You need my help to keep wake you up. You're you're basically saying you're a worthless pile of shit
It's like the problem with every classic white
woke
libtard
Right, they're the most racist in an ironic way because they're hilarious the whiteies who run the black lives matter and all that stuff
It's all the cairns with a clipboard and yeah, they're crazy. I mean those revolutions are crazy because
None of them are meant to be one
They'll never like black lives matter will never get what they want
The rainbow, you know, all the other I think it's pride month or whatever right now, but uh
They're not gonna get what they want
There's they're there so that they're gonna lose but they keep collecting more and more of them like a ball of hair
You know, like a a tumbleweed collects more and more weeds as it tumbles
They're just collecting minorities and they get in when they got more of them
They get they make a new one to bitch about and then in the end, they'll be the majority hairball
Right and then what if you're not in on it, then we're the ones they want to get done but
Uri Bresmanov said it to g. Edward Griffin
He said in the end when the real people take charge
The hairballs are the first to go because they'll be the most dissolution that oh, you mean we're not in charge after all
And they're like, yeah, now you're the most dangerous to the establishment
So you guys are going up against the wall, you know, so those those movements. I wish people could see
I've got so many family members who are
They're into various ones of these, you know what I mean? And they think
I mean, I used to be like a liberal
You know what I mean? And now I'm like I'm considered a conservative. Uh, oh, what was his name?
The the guy I wrote this one
I'm having a blank. Uh, oh Robert Anton Wilson. Do you know that? Do you know him the author from Chicago?
Well, he's like, isn't he like the church of satan or something?
No, he was just like a really one of these Kurt Vonnegut out there guys. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but uh, he said
He said the only difference between a liberal and a conservative is 30 years
Yeah, so true, man
Shit, I used to think was like totally cool. Now I'm like, what the hell like, uh,
It's just crazy, you know, um, but yeah, I've got a lot of family members and stuff where I actually sound like
A republican right wing person to them. They don't know like I'm still pretty cool
But shit don't fly that used to fly for me before I woke up
Yeah, um, it's funny how that dialectic works to like how there's this
need to um set forth a specific like, uh, political
Uh force right now, it happens to be right wing right and then the left rises up and then that there's like a
Shift and then it goes left and right left right right
And um, I think it's another exciting thing is people are getting out of that that left brain thinking all together
And are seeing through it and aren't like bear said in the beginning of the show
They're not buying into this this like current protest stuff that's going on all over the united states
it's like
It's clear that this is all part of the strategy once again and um, I love it
I've seen a couple clips on instagram of chicano's calling it all out like you guys are idiots
Like you guys are morons. You're falling for this trap again
You know, so um
The the black community is well, you know, it's just
um, you know, I had a great experience because um
when I was playing ball
We uh, yeah, we're
kind of maybe
A little bit more in the third team was white dudes arrests were black guys or tongans or whatever
and um
It's the best way to get
You know to mingle people as you just go out there and bust each other's chops, you know, and you
You you literally are colorblind or just become your lifelong friends
But the point I wanted to make is that was a different generation
And I still have some of my best buddies that are, you know, different races and you know
There's they sound just the same they look at the black youth like, you know
What a bunch of freaking idiots, you know, and uh, they aren't down for all the new stuff
The other thing is too is, you know, and we're playing ball
You know, you play a few years of pro and you might make some dough where you go buy a house or something
But you start to get a job when you're done
Whereas now you sign a
30 million dollar bonus and
And you know, so so it's it's a you know, they've infiltrated money money is basically
You know the carrot that they use to
To get everybody to go with the agenda, but yeah, the carens and people that
You know are trying to be non-racist and
and
You know the truth of the matter is is they've never left their, you know
Little suburban neighborhoods that they grew up in the first place and they're trying to be all trendy and everything so
Yeah, the best is when it were on the sort of security of a of a nation having borders and stuff
And they're all against that and then when someone asks them, okay, would you like to take in this migrant family into your home?
Oh, yeah, you know, it's just like a straight blank white pale face
Funny enough that spare bedroom. I'm using it right now for office supplies
Love it. Love it. Um
Yeah, I hate when people but like because I'm a musician from Chicago
I was I had black eyes in my you know original band and then I was the only white guy playing rhythm in an all black band
I'm not colorblind. I hate when people go. I'm I'm not I'm colorblind. I'm like
I'm not stupid. I know you're black. You're spanish. You're chinese
I hate when people don't just own up to it. I'm not racist or against you for it
But I hate people
Or like white people who talk with black ebonics, you know, because
I I go around black people, you know, there's a comedian. He's like, yeah, well
I grew up with a conquer spaniel, but I don't walk around going
Yeah, and once again, it's about, you know, taking pride in who you are and where you come from and
Um, not getting steeped in the materialism of color of skin, but still
Respecting and this is the spiritual path that's respecting the matter of the physicality. That's why we're here is to have this experience
And so, you know, we got take take pride in your blackness or your whiteness or your yellow whatever
And like it's just a color. It's just physical stuff in the end
It's like we're all here to move past that and that's why I love comedy, dude
Like like a good comedian can just rip into all of these
Sort of really these cultural norms of trying to be
You know tiptoeing around race and stuff and because it's funny
We can explode all of that out in the front and and help us see how ridiculous
All of these social conventions are and those political correctness
And unfortunately, there's just not a lot of great comedians anymore. Even though it does seem to be bouncing back a little bit
Um, but yeah, man, uh, we can't play that. We can't play that norm mcdonald clip. I say that's not youtube friendly
Oh, which one was that he's got so many great. Oh my son. I can't say it. I can't oh the gay one
My son goes to harvard and by the way
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is a family friendly show, but like that's the thing it's like
you know, um
Like that was what's so great growing up and even the ex-genres bear like in the locker room and stuff
We just totally ragged on each other for like the color of skin stuff. It was just fun, man
It wasn't like people had thicker skins. I guess what the hell is a white person
That's what I like to know. I mean like just the three of us sitting here have uh, you know, quite a mix of
Racial diversity, but it's like white people
It's like, well, what?
Spanish, italian, portuguese, german, dutch
Um, you know the most racially diverse, uh, you know people on the planet
But you know, it's it's just all part of the theater and some people fall for it and others don't
I think a lot of it is the history like when you start looking into these stories where all this comes from
The history is you know the the whole story about slavery in the united states and all that when you really go
Digging into that it doesn't appear to be what it is on the outside, you know and yeah
You owe us for all this, you know, and it's like well
I mean, you know, you don't hear the british saying to italians. Well, the romans took over our country for 800 years
So we want repatriation reparation
You know, it's like dude
It's get over it. You know what I mean? Like it's this is us now. It's time to move on
I see it a lot here in europe where I live, uh
Like english
They're like, I don't really hate the french. You're like, it's funny though
You do fucking hate the french because you always act like you know
They all seem to hate each other like they can't let it go
And they say we don't really hate each other and you're like, yeah, but then you can't stop talking about it. So
Don't you or do you really, you know, you did have like a 30 years war and you did have about 40 or 50 wars in the 19th century, so
Uh, it's a lot of history of fighting and killing and then also strangely enough all of your leaders and kings and queens all had
Sexed with each other with like the five different families and all ruled these different countries that you all hate each other. So
Uh, yeah, europe's a so such a trip man. Um,
But uh, yeah, uh, what's so you ever see yourself coming back to the state steve or you're just
You're just you're a boy now. I mean, you know, I've been here more than half my life now was I moved here in 98
So, you know, i'm turning fifth. Well, i'm not gonna i'm not turning 25 again
Maybe 24 I almost fell for the trap myself. Um
So I really don't feel american anymore culture. I actually don't feel european
I don't feel anything. I just like living here
I would if I came to america, um, I'm not going back to cold ass chicago again
I would probably go somewhere south, you know, arizona, maybe or, um
nevada or
New mexico or I don't you know, I don't know somewhere warm in other words out of cami fornia. Yeah for yeah
Yeah, somewhere warm, but cool. Um
You know, I'm not going to like uh, well you guys live in california. I mean, it's really uh
It's a a lefty woke state, but it's a huge state even then right like where you guys are at it's not
It's really not a lefty woke state at all. Um, it's
Only in la in san francisco and you know other centers
Yeah, otherwise, it's I mean if you want to look at politics, it's more of a red state
overwhelmingly
That's how illinois is like chicago is all democrat and the rest are in the kkk
You know, I know I've been to southern. I've been to southern illinois. Wow
Dude, I was a saluki for a year. I went to siu
I was out in the cornfields with the children of the corn man. They're uh
Special special people down there
You know, we look at a lot of places all the time because debonair
You know someday want to win her someplace else and you know because it gets pretty wet here
um, and so we've been doing real estate searches everywhere and
There's I feel like a man without a country now all the places that I used to love are all so altered
That um like hawaii, we just said oh for sure. We're gonna go back to hawaii
It's it's completely overtaken
Uh communist government
Um, you know just decimated maui. There's just not only did they level, you know
Kind of the heart of the whole island, you know with weaponry
But then if you go there now, there's homeless encampments same thing with the wahoo
Just old cars and things alongside of the road that the county refuses just to come clean up
And also we've looked into a lot of good research that shows that it's all being bought up and you know being prepared for smart cities
Um, california, you know just south of us in humble, which used to be wild in the emerald triangle and all that
You know, it's now a tech center with fiber optics coming into the humble bay, you know from asia on the ocean floor
Uh, arizona, you know same thing just massive sprawling
California like suburbs
So I you know, then we look at europe, you know, because I have dual citizenship
I can go to italy anytime I want. Oh, yeah, you're italian, right? Yeah, yeah, so um
But you know over there, it's like
Same thing they're overrun with the whole invasion thing
The only thing that I could the only place where I can still imagine where I'd like to move is to like
Morea or someplace out in the south pacific or fiji, you know, we lived in
I was just gonna say like my roommate the guy who rents the room for me
We have a joke like micronesia, dude. We gotta go to micronesia. It's like the last the last place
They're not messing with you and you can still live on the beach, you know
But that's a good thing you brought up because
There's a lot of mentality like do we stop and fight or do we run like eventually if we keep running
They're gonna finally get to everywhere anyway
So you might just be putting this off on your kids one more generation or your grandkids will deal with it
But you know, do we do that or do we just put our foot down and turn around?
We had this conversation with billy bonds
A few episodes ago. We're a great guy doing amazing things permaculture farmer
And he's got you know family and he's saying
It's you because he was right in the middle of that
North Carolina debacle where they just flooded them out and and the stuff that he related as far as the toxicity and
And he's saying, you know, I'm I'm probably going to get out of here
And so that opened the discussion. Do we stay and fight or do we
Or, you know, just get out of here. Is it are we just going to go down inevitably with the ship?
Uh, so
Yeah, tough call tough call if I didn't have family here, um, you know in grandkids
Uh deb and I would be pshh. Bye. Bye. You know, we'd be back in fiji someplace in that part of the world
Because the other part, you know, it's okay stay and fight and you know, and I'm
American through and through and really believe in the whole history and destiny of this country
Uh, at the same time individually, we're all here for an even larger purpose, which is to
You know get off the wheel once and for all and on the other side
We can affect more change than when we're in an embodiment. So I don't know. I don't know what the answer is
I think it's really like to get into these communes, you know
I don't I think it's going to be like brave new world and uh in
1984 where
In brave new world all the people in the system lived in the little, you know techno city
But they go on vacation to the wild men, you know, they actually like can get a leave to go out and the wild men
Is what it's just people living off the land
Now they made them look in the movie and in the book they make them look like savages
But they weren't they were like regular people, you know what I mean and same in 1984
The proletariat still live in london drinking beer singing in the pubs winston all them are under constant surveillance
But you know the new world order would drop some bombs in there once in a while to make them still think they're at war
But I think they're going to leave you alone if you're getting a little group and go out in the middle of texas or california or whatever
I can't see like the government coming in
And just wiping everyone out, you know, I don't I just don't see it. I don't know
What do you guys why we talk about I think we need to get out of cities not get out of a country
I was saying last night on my sub stack like if you're looking to find the ideal place just
Be in a place where you won't have
Your neighborhood show up on cnn
in other words
you know, like
Stay out of la chicago new york all these centers where all these activities happening and find yourself a good small town
Uh in an idealic situation and then have that, uh, you know be that decision be based around some
quality of life
Measurements right like what are you into if like for instance?
I you know
Bears older son won't move up here because he loves to he loves to surf down where he's at
And so like that's a huge priority in his life and like, you know
What are the priorities in your life in terms of the quality that you desire the quality of your life for us?
It was a having really high-end quality water
And that was what attracted us to here on the smith river and the fact that also
We are surrounded by such immense natural
Uh, it's just like beauty in terms of like the mountains here that you and they're all national forests
But even if they were to just make these uh available for the private to buy
It's very very hard to develop here because it's such rugged terrain
So I I like bear said it's like nature
You can't mess with nature like spangler said the famous german historians like
Civilians like
Civilization man civilization is always just a race against nature coming back and taking over
Right. Um, and so yeah, um, I think that is uh
As far as strategizing where you're gonna go find a place that's just has abundant nature around you if possible
And then two like like it bear was saying it's like about your journey
You know, it's like what what is your journey finding out through that self mastery principle?
And then adhering to those principles and doing the best you can is what you got and whether that be
Your specific life span here is going to be about standing up for rights of others and doing that in a way that's
you know, that's
You know in alignment with natural law then that's going to be your thing if your thing is about
Figuring out one cool innovation that the world's going to learn about that's your thing like everybody's got their own thing
Right. There's no one-size-fits-all
The thing that's important to us too is the people that were you know surrounded by because
When we lived in other places and particularly in fiji, you know, the mindset is so different
That it was so refreshing. You know, there's no such nobody knew who the president of the united states was
They had no clue
We had a visitor come see us one time this woman
And we're just out in the countryside and you know
Visiting some people and there's a fiji and family and they're
Papias and he's huge papayas and so our friend has said how long does it take to grow one of those and
The woman was perplexus look at her. She goes, I don't know. They just grow
And you know to us that was kind of where we're at
you know our our true temperament
and
Even around here, you know, we're completely off grid
We're here because we don't want dependency on anything. So we're completely self-sustaining
And we're in an area called big flat and there's neighbors, but we're you know, great distances away
We're all aware of each other and everything
But you know, it's it's a mixed bag
You know, we can't go in and have just the same conversation like you and I are having with them
Nor are they in it just more of a natural mindset like a fijian
So, um, that's why I keep going back to the southeast
But the good thing about up here is you do have real independent thinking people
They don't believe in authority and the other thing is we're all armed to the f and teeth
So don't even think about coming up here. Yeah, I mean, I was going to say that, you know, they're just what mike was saying exactly
Not there are people armed to the teeth who
You meet there are like all kinds of people. There are these don't tread on me
They're armed to the teeth and the thing they want most is to you
They want to take on the government to fire a fight like they are born to do that
And then there's people like you guys are like, dude, we don't want to fight man, but if you do
It's gonna be nasty. So yeah, if you do it's a good day to die
I mean really, you know, that's the other thing I was gonna say like uh
The only advice I'd give people where not to live is I would look at agenda 21 agenda 30
If you see high steam railroads being planned
Down a stretch of woods where three towns of suddenly magically lit on fire
And you're next on the path you might want to get the hell out of there or
Whether flooding you out with floods that never happened like if it looks like it's them
Uh, you might want to get out of the line the fire immediately and then take your stand later
We always have that uh looming here
Because they love to set fires every single summer and
Some of them are pretty horrendous. We've had to
Evacuate about half of the years that we've been here
So, you know, that's and if that happens then we move on
There's something to be said to just like where you are
You know, Steve like living in a in a community a town a city
Where um, that is your place, right where you feel comfortable where, you know
It's like we've talked in the past with other guests who've lived in the middle Manhattan or live
You know and like for me personally
I think it's good to be out of a place where your your backyard might end up on cnn, but
Um, you know, everybody's got their own
Mission their own journey they're on and some people thrive in us those areas
And that's why the spirit once again going back to how we started this right the internal out
Like what is your spiritual power and how are you emitting that out into the world?
Uh, everybody's different and um, I think
Goodness, I think god that when I look at like the alphabetic member map or
The music and sky member map we're dotting that entire land of the united states and and beyond
Uh, I think that's cool because we all need a bit of the the nodes of intelligence and nodes of consciousness in every area
We can get right now
They're listening to this show for instance. Holy man. Just just what bear is saying, you know
That's a cool thing about the internet is you can now meet like my you can't even talk to your neighbor
Like you're saying, you know what I mean
But you can meet like thousands and thousands of people around the world who are like-minded and can have conversations like this
Now you've got an option in the network
Should you need to get the hell out of there in a hurry or whatever? You know who to go to not just where to go
You don't want to just go anywhere. You want to say right? Where are these people at? That's that's where I want to go
Right because I hate you can come to the music and sky village my friend. Yeah
Which will be
Grounded in the natural law and it's going to be a fun experiment to see to not fall into the typical pitfalls of your
Commune or your community and like
People, you know aren't coming here to seek
Uh to seek remedy from others. They're coming here fully embodied
Hopefully and there's going to be a process of that not anybody can join you have to literally go through
An entire process to be even accepted
Uh, and yeah, like being a community like bear is saying where people are grounded in nature and like are more focused on their garden and
Watching cnn or sorry. I keep bashing cnn today, but I guess it this kind of deserved
Um, and then like there's that model too of sort of the ringing cedars
You know model coming out of anesthesia that we're really embracing to which is really it's you know, uh,
natural law understanding what the true human is the true man the true woman
And embracing that through a family aesthetic, of course
And um really answering a lot of the issues here today education
Um, uh, how kids are raised
How we get back to nature, but also how we respect the individual respect consciousness all that so
Um, yeah, it's a grand experiment and we'll see how it goes. I'm laughing dude because
Two days from now there'll be a gas explosion in your town cnn will be there and you'll be walking by with a
Station maybe
And
You'll be on cnn man. Yeah, and also I would tell people like what
The point of spirituality is you don't fear death. It is what it is
You got it's coming anyway, whether you like it or not
So you get busy living or get busy dying, you know what? I mean you can like
You can sit around here for 200 years like a Taoist, but if you're not enjoying yourself
Then I don't see the point. I'd rather personally stay 70. I don't give a shit
You know one of my favorite movies of all time Shawshank redemption
Oh, I love it to death. Yeah. Yeah, it's the greatest greatest movie ever. Yeah. Yeah, but to bring this conversation full circle
Breaking through the myth of separation
We don't need internet or anything when any one of us which is a note in consciousness lights up
it
lights up the whole
You know the whole unified energy field or whatever you want to call it
So, um, yeah, it doesn't matter where you're at
And uh, does it matter if you're plugged into the internet or not? Just, uh, that's what we're here to do
Get the lights come on. It's it's funny because sometimes like something will tickle in behind, you know
In my chest or in my head and I'm like, oh, I think I got to tell steve this and I'll look and he's already messaged me
You know something right on that same level, you know in in what's happened the same with you bear like
How many synchronicities have we had and just like, you know, and that's not by and that's not an accident
That's not some freak
Thing right like that's actually how it all works. That's the manifestation. That's what I'm saying is I just wrote that thing today
And that's what you wanted to talk about and I didn't know like it's happening more and more and more
You know, we are that's the power of this manifestation. There isn't synchronicities. That's you living it living your path
That's that synchronicity. It's it's not an accident. Like you wouldn't believe what happened today
It's like no, you wouldn't believe it because you don't know you did it
And magic is not paranormal. It's natural law
Yeah, science
This has been a an amazing talk. I could talk to you two gentlemen for the next five hours
But that's just a fake construct anyways, so
we'll end it now and uh
This has been such a pleasure steve. Um, so what you got going on right now feel uh, just get us caught up real quick on
Your current projects, um, where people should go to find you that are new to your work
and all that jazz
Yeah, um space busters, uh, youtube bit shoot, uh
odyssey vigilante.tv
If you need to contact me, please write space busters at hotmail.com
I get like a thousand people hitting me up on facebook messenger for friends and whatever
I use facebook to put stuff from my phone to my computer or as a
As a go between
I don't sit around chit chatting on facebook and like half the time if I accept it they write me 16 messages or
They're the kind of person where I look at their profile. How do I know you?
We have 50 common friends, but then they're just a person who's posting
25 facebook posts a day with no one engaging or liking, you know, and I'm like
You're you're having a dopamine addiction and I I'm not trying to be surrounded by that
No disrespect anyone is doing that
But if that's what you're doing, please don't like include me. I've got I've got other stuff
But uh, I'm trying to finish my three-part film series scamped arctica
Um, which should be done pretty soon where the the globe is dead
and
Yeah, trying to enjoy summer raise my kid and uh
Have a good time and stay away from the
The controlled conspiracy people real quick. We were laughing. I hope I can tell this story
Mike and I and a capoco. We were in the waves having a broke back ocean moment
And I said like how the hell did you like meet bear like how are you friends?
And he said oh his son and I were in college together or whatever and he said uh
When he finally met you he didn't know what to say and he went up to you and said so
How about that alex jones?
Like I was like I'm surprised he still talks to you dude
But that's the other thing real quick is yeah, I think people are waking up to the a lot of what I would call the controlled
The controlled freedom movement or awake movement, you know, uh, I think we have to
We have to watch out for who we're following and listening to I would actually say don't listen to anybody or follow anyone except your own
Heart and and feeling but uh, that's me. But awesome to be on again guys. I don't know if we even made a point today, every
But uh, that's all that matters
Yeah, I had a great time. Uh, hopefully we'll do it again. That would be lovely. It was great
There's a good chinwag as they say in os
And uh, so in you're not going to be in the aetheric summit because you've got a gig, right?
Yeah, yeah, unfortunately, I'm gonna be on the road in sweden. I really wanted to uh, I got invited to that
Are you gonna talk on there? Uh, so bare land. Oh is on sunday. Yeah, there's a quick. So what it's called the aetheric summit
Yes, the aetheric summit that's organized by witsit awesome witsit and um, it
Is going to be featuring a lot of friends of alpha cast and friends of steve alkaner. I believe tom cowan and mandavolmer
uh, andrew kaufman
Uh, who else there's going to be a I guess a sort of debate between jaren and witsit on saturday, which should be interesting
Uh, and uh, I really appreciate what witsit's done what aweson's done is sort of, you know
Moving more into the aether and the true sciences and getting out of that false dialectic of flat globe sort of thing
So bear will be on on sunday afternoon
Uh, check it out. You can go to uh, aetheric summit and that's spelled with the a e so a e t h e r i c summit dot com forward slash bear
b a r r e
I'll throw that in the um chat right now. I guess I should learn more about what this is all about before I show up on sunday, huh?
Um
Literally about what we just talked about today like okay. I'll fake it
Yeah
Um, and yeah, so anyways, uh, that's great. Uh, look forward to that this weekend
Happy father's day to all your father's days out there even know every day's father's day, right?
Just like every day's mother's day another sigh out, man. It's a hallmark sigh up
Yeah, uh, this is the end of sigh uptism. I like we were talking about that too like
optism
Right, it's it's the end of all that nonsense. So
Hey, thanks. I'm looking forward to father's day because I'm getting some uh merch from kelly slater's surf camp
My kids are on their way back from it now. So I told them to fix me up
That's my father's day present
You're stoked
Um, I am going to be working that connection to get to the surf ranch. Uh, that's going to be happening
I will be getting barreled finally in my life. Um
So, uh, well, that's awesome bear. Enjoy that and uh, I'm going to take my father on a round of golf
Thing I like to do the most so
Um, and with my boys. So
I've gotten back into golf. I've gotten back into golf actually
I don't know steve if you've ever I I don't know if I could see you out there was sort of like the floppy hat and the old school
Baggy pants, maybe you know, I'm a 14 handicap man. I've been down to just under 12 before I
Watch anymore. I've I've been golfing since I was seven with my old man. I'm I'm a I love golf
I yeah, I love golf too. I started when I played football, you know in the off season
I got with my buddies, you know
Most of them were black guys for me cell a so every hole was a beer and a joint, you know
And uh, it's where you could win the days when you could wear your flip flops and tank top and
Last time I played and and Maui, you know, I got there and we had to put on shirts and you know
And it gave game change but golf is awesome. It's a great game
Cowan's a Tom Cowan's apparently really good. I think he's he doesn't know he single digits handicap guy
He's really supposed to be really good
He's excellent and I guess was even going trying to make a run for the senior tour
And fell short and gave up golf so he doesn't play anymore
That's that's a little bit of that story. So that's Tom Cowan in a nutshell right there
Uh
Amazing I was hanging out with his son
Asher actually at confluence who's another he's tall. They're they're a tall family
Um, but anyways, yeah, I played golf to that note bear
Barefoot on sunday with my kid. I love playing golf barefoot. John daly's still golf's barefoot man
And he's out. He's got a beer in one hand. He's like me and then you barefoot
It's chipping one handed great like when he's putting he literally rests his cocktail on his gut
I could I could do that too
Well, that'll be on my bucket list man when I you know eventually I'll come out to
To you guys and we'll all have to get a game of golf going man. We'll get
Tom we we gotta we got to get a golf game together for reels
For that I'll go out
I would let's make that happen. That's gonna happen and uh, love you brother
uh, thanks for joining us today
And uh, remember guys get outside get your feet in the dirt go plant something
Go for a hike go show mother nature some love she'll show it right back in spades
And uh, we'll see you next week same bat time same bat channel 10 a.m. Pacific standard time every thursday