WEBVTT 01:01.100 --> 01:08.880 Hello and welcome to the King Heroes journey podcast. My name is Beth Martins. I am coming to you live today with Christine Massey a 01:09.420 --> 01:13.540 Canadian legend you could say that I have known about for 01:13.540 --> 01:21.680 Many many months right from the inception of the thought that hmm things aren't like they appear to be 01:22.180 --> 01:27.960 So if you're new to the King Heroes journey podcast, I welcome you. Please do like and share this 01:27.960 --> 01:30.560 Hello, Saint Lady. Nice to see you. Glad you're here and 01:31.520 --> 01:38.500 Yeah, I'm this is probably gonna be good in shadow band as usual and if you're not familiar with Christine 01:38.500 --> 01:41.200 I am going to bring her on momentarily and 01:42.660 --> 01:48.140 Tell you a little bit about her. I'm sure I'm sure you guys are familiar. So here here we go 01:49.680 --> 01:56.080 Hello Christine, welcome. Hi Beth. Thank you for having me. You're very welcome to say hi to earthship there 01:56.080 --> 01:58.420 and my good friend saying lady and 01:59.380 --> 02:02.540 This is gonna be powerful interview. I'm I'm pretty excited 02:03.200 --> 02:08.540 This is a long time in the coming definitely had you on the radar in a big way 02:08.540 --> 02:14.680 And it became of utmost importance in 2020 when I think things may have changed 02:14.680 --> 02:16.300 I'm gonna ask you some questions about that 02:16.300 --> 02:21.160 But for those who aren't already familiar earthship there by the way says you are the bomb 02:21.840 --> 02:29.240 Christine Massey is a former statisticist statistician from Canada who's been known for her extensive use of freedom of information 02:29.240 --> 02:36.360 requests to investigate the scientific evidence for the existence of the boogeyman virus that were not 02:36.800 --> 02:42.440 necessarily going to name very many times just in case it gets us taken out here and 02:43.240 --> 02:50.260 Other alleged viruses. She began her inquiries in early 2020 after becoming skeptical of the official narrative 02:50.260 --> 02:51.820 surrounding that 02:52.480 --> 02:58.560 pandemic drawing on her background which included activism against water fluoridation very important issue 02:58.560 --> 03:01.420 Which taught her to question public health claims 03:01.420 --> 03:08.660 Her research focuses on whether health institutions can provide essential foundational evidence for the existence of those 03:08.660 --> 03:15.400 Alleged viruses as well as for contagion and the claimed pathogenicity of any bacteria 03:16.060 --> 03:19.980 So welcome Christine. I'm so glad to have you here. Thank you Beth 03:20.260 --> 03:25.480 And happy birthday by the way. Oh, thank you very much. I had a beautiful birthday weekend. It was actually really nice 03:25.480 --> 03:29.160 They didn't chemtrail yesterday. That was that's a buzzword 03:30.100 --> 03:36.980 Yeah, yeah, so I thought I felt like it was just for me clear clear blue skies and a bit of sunshine and some good company and 03:37.740 --> 03:43.340 We had to eat cake. I thought I was gonna not eat cake, but lo and behold, I'm weak once a year 03:44.800 --> 03:46.480 So I appreciate that 03:47.200 --> 03:49.540 Yeah, so you've had quite a journey Christine 03:50.600 --> 03:51.280 Yeah 03:52.060 --> 03:53.960 It has been a big journey 03:54.740 --> 04:00.900 Yeah, for me it began. Well, you know in the early days of 2020 hearing all the 04:00.900 --> 04:07.240 Shatter all the news all the fear mongering about the supposed particle that we were all supposed to 04:07.240 --> 04:11.780 protect ourselves from and everybody else around us and 04:12.740 --> 04:14.700 And yeah, I started 04:15.220 --> 04:19.900 Well, I knew I knew early on thanks to people like John Rappaport 04:19.900 --> 04:25.860 He had talked already a bit for four years. He had talked about that there were serious problems with PCR tests 04:26.460 --> 04:32.600 So I knew that much going in and I found out that's what they were using and then 04:33.280 --> 04:34.760 eventually I came across 04:35.460 --> 04:40.580 videos from Dr. Andrew Kaufman and he was explaining in a very simple 04:41.540 --> 04:47.620 Logical manner that anybody could understand the problems with the methodologies that had actually been employed and 04:48.460 --> 04:51.020 so he was showing how if those 04:51.020 --> 04:52.780 Particles really did exist 04:53.300 --> 04:58.300 how they could be found and purified from water glue fluid or tissue and 05:00.160 --> 05:04.180 Versus what was actually being done in the laboratories and 05:04.860 --> 05:09.160 You know to to bolster the claim that they had isolated this supposed particles 05:09.160 --> 05:14.800 So he explained it really clearly and and then you know, so then I became aware that oh my god 05:14.800 --> 05:18.760 It's like even so much worse than I had even thought, you know 05:19.860 --> 05:24.060 And yeah, like he was my inspiration to do what I ended up doing 05:25.880 --> 05:26.360 So 05:27.880 --> 05:33.620 He's a kind of og in the in the space so he was around I was lucky to come to around 05:33.620 --> 05:38.800 2015 and you know pulling back the curtain we talk about the wizards curtain here 05:39.760 --> 05:40.360 and 05:40.360 --> 05:41.440 So that was good 05:41.440 --> 05:48.820 I felt actually very fortunate for a little bit of a preamble looking looking into it and and then it wasn't as 05:49.360 --> 05:52.300 Devastating as some of the people who you know woke up post 05:53.000 --> 05:57.140 2020 or post all the jabs or you know all of that kind of thing 05:57.140 --> 06:01.940 So yeah, when did you start noticing that things weren't exactly as they appeared? 06:02.600 --> 06:09.040 In with the 2020 narrative no like with or or was it before then I guess is my 06:09.160 --> 06:15.960 With just in general, right, right? Yeah for me. I think it began 06:17.180 --> 06:18.820 Probably around 06:18.820 --> 06:25.680 2009 somewhere in there. I was working at a hospital in Toronto as the statistician 06:26.690 --> 06:29.470 between 2008 and 2012 and 06:30.180 --> 06:34.300 Sometime in there. I started learning about 06:34.300 --> 06:38.780 water fluoridation and I was just stunned 06:39.560 --> 06:46.380 Information learning that they were actually literally putting hazardous waste in our drinking water and that it's contaminated with 06:46.380 --> 06:55.840 Things like arsenic and lead that you know the health authorities say that there's no known safe level of these contaminants and fluoride itself 06:57.280 --> 07:03.700 It's classified as a water contaminant. It's not and it's not classified as a nutrient even to begin with yet 07:03.700 --> 07:04.760 they sell us this 07:05.560 --> 07:12.480 Narrative about, you know, it's a natural nutrient and it's necessary for you know protecting the teeth and 07:14.160 --> 07:17.520 Meanwhile turns out they don't have any scientific evidence and 07:18.860 --> 07:25.900 Yeah, so that was like the that was a huge that for me was the huge topic I ended up becoming 07:25.900 --> 07:33.200 Pretty much obsessed with that trying to get them to stop and that was just a huge wake-up call just seem like 07:33.920 --> 07:39.760 Okay, they don't have any randomized controlled trials to show that this is actually safe or beneficial 07:40.620 --> 07:45.350 for people to actually ingest this and that it does what it is claimed to do and 07:46.860 --> 07:53.960 They don't have toxicology studies long-term toxicology studies on the on the chemical that they use 07:53.960 --> 07:56.140 only some short-term ones 07:56.800 --> 08:01.900 nothing on people because toxicology studies are done on animals and 08:02.780 --> 08:10.740 So and yeah, they just would apply this incredible double standard where they would insist this is a great public health achievement and 08:12.260 --> 08:15.100 That it's safe and effective for everybody and 08:16.460 --> 08:18.980 But when you actually look at their evidence 08:18.980 --> 08:24.900 they can't back up their claim and then when you look at the research that does exist 08:25.560 --> 08:31.880 You find that it's actually pointing in the direction of harm and that was that was 08:32.800 --> 08:37.640 Stunning and like I said, you just talking to a brick wall and doesn't matter what you tell them what you show them 08:37.640 --> 08:39.520 Well, I was living 08:40.940 --> 08:44.020 Careful how I say things now, but on the land known as 08:44.660 --> 08:49.280 Brampton in Ontario and which is part of the region of Peel 08:49.840 --> 08:53.280 And we had a hero councillor there John's groviere 08:53.280 --> 08:58.940 Give him a shout out because that man tried so hard. He was our one champion on council and he 09:00.000 --> 09:05.720 He was very outspoken about it quite unpopular because of it and again, we had 09:06.260 --> 09:11.660 One lady brought in a world expert from India who had years ago been funded by Health Canada 09:12.190 --> 09:14.740 an expert on fluoride and 09:14.740 --> 09:20.560 She told them straight out and just all kinds of information and evidence put before them didn't matter 09:20.560 --> 09:27.060 They just kept going with it because I think as some of us are, you know, realizing now there's 09:27.620 --> 09:34.420 All these other entities and geos and the UN and these influences coming in from these, you know 09:34.420 --> 09:35.300 globalist 09:35.300 --> 09:39.120 Organizations and that's who they're that's who they're 09:39.920 --> 09:42.600 Typically listening to not the people in the community 09:44.120 --> 09:48.120 Right exactly. Yeah, that's that's what I've noticed and and this is not 09:48.740 --> 09:54.140 Limited by any means I'm not going to be popular for saying this but it's not limited to the the mainstream 09:54.970 --> 09:56.500 because where there are 09:56.500 --> 09:58.320 allies and 09:58.320 --> 10:00.240 especially financial ties 10:01.020 --> 10:05.300 Then those weigh in heavily on the choices and decisions 10:06.380 --> 10:07.900 I find that there's 10:07.900 --> 10:14.100 You know, much less people who actually like the truth compared with 10:14.700 --> 10:20.370 Right. It's at the people have their limits. I'll go so far. But you know, you want to 10:20.880 --> 10:23.760 Undo my whole paradigm or you want to 10:24.140 --> 10:31.480 Threaten my business, which is what it seemed to be, you know, if there's financial allies in the picture then 10:31.480 --> 10:34.960 Then it's very easy to turn a blind eye 10:34.960 --> 10:36.880 So, yeah 10:38.380 --> 10:43.400 No, that's absolutely like what you said about it's not just in the mainstream 10:43.400 --> 10:47.580 I this is what I've it's been quite shocking in the last five years because when 10:48.180 --> 10:49.600 Well, I'll just mention 10:50.800 --> 10:52.620 What I ended up doing briefly 10:53.400 --> 10:55.620 Some of your viewers, I'm sure already know but 10:56.620 --> 11:04.460 So as Andy had explained that the proper steps hadn't actually been done to show that the alleged infectious particle actually existed and 11:05.420 --> 11:09.020 He explained it very clearly. So I started filing freedom of information 11:09.760 --> 11:14.220 Requests challenging institutions like Health Canada Public Health Agency of Canada 11:14.860 --> 11:16.540 Ontario Ministry of Health, etc 11:17.340 --> 11:17.900 for 11:18.560 --> 11:19.120 foundational 11:19.120 --> 11:23.920 The evidence that would be necessary to show the existence of a virus 11:23.920 --> 11:28.700 foundational evidence from anybody anywhere not just something that they themselves had carried out 11:29.920 --> 11:33.500 And the responses were coming back like they didn't have it 11:33.500 --> 11:35.420 They didn't have it. They didn't have it like these 11:36.040 --> 11:39.860 Institutions were literally showing that they couldn't show that that supposed 11:40.640 --> 11:44.960 Particle even existed in anybody anywhere. So 11:45.980 --> 11:51.760 Yeah, so I started collecting these and and getting the responses and of course I was putting them on social media 11:52.800 --> 12:00.120 And I thought, you know, I guess I thought this is gonna catch on like wildfire, you know, because it's so to me 12:00.120 --> 12:05.580 It's so very logical and I know just one or two institutions people still be like, well, okay 12:05.580 --> 12:14.280 You know, somebody has it but as the months and years have gone on and now we're up to like people from around the world helped and 12:14.280 --> 12:17.720 We now have responses from 225 12:17.720 --> 12:23.840 Different institutions in 40 different countries like it's huge project that went on for years 12:23.840 --> 12:30.860 So nobody had that foundational evidence and I also I later started sort of broadening the way 12:30.860 --> 12:34.620 I was wording things to make it more obvious for people like do you have any scientific 12:35.320 --> 12:37.640 Studies showing that this supposed thing exists 12:37.640 --> 12:43.960 Do you have any scientific studies showing contagion of this supposed illness and they just never had anything 12:44.280 --> 12:50.460 So I thought, you know, kind of like when I first discovered the water fluoridation. I thought the authorities would 12:51.480 --> 12:56.760 Um, I thought it was all just some terrible mistake and they didn't understand what they were doing and that 12:56.760 --> 13:00.140 This is a no-brainer. Of course, you have to stop doing this, you know 13:00.140 --> 13:04.060 You're you're also medicating and experimenting on people without informed consent 13:04.600 --> 13:06.120 Like that in and of itself 13:06.620 --> 13:11.560 Is just when you stop and think about it when you because I was indoctrinated as a child, right? 13:11.560 --> 13:17.460 But when you stop and think about it like hang on a minute wait, they're they're literally putting this in the drinking water 13:17.460 --> 13:18.740 not for the purpose of 13:19.400 --> 13:21.180 um making the water safe 13:21.780 --> 13:28.740 It was for the a way to deliver it into our bodies without us even most people even knowing let alone 13:28.740 --> 13:30.220 having informed consent 13:31.220 --> 13:36.680 So I thought when I started pointing that out that it would be pretty easy to be a no-brainer 13:36.680 --> 13:43.920 They'll stop and here we are all these years later. There's even been a seven-year federal lawsuit in the us against the epa 13:44.680 --> 13:49.000 where the the federal judge ended up concluding that um 13:49.560 --> 13:51.120 water fluoridation poses an 13:51.940 --> 13:54.260 unacceptable risk to children's brains 13:55.040 --> 13:57.340 And they're still doing it 13:57.900 --> 14:04.840 And kind of like that, you know, I thought when I started getting these responses from the institution saying that they didn't have any evidence 14:04.840 --> 14:06.680 of this alleged particle ever being 14:07.240 --> 14:12.160 found in anyone and purified and you you have to do the purification because 14:12.580 --> 14:21.280 You can't carry on with valid steps after that like sequencing and characterization and controlled experiments to test for causation of illness 14:21.720 --> 14:27.580 You can't do that unless you purify and we can talk about that more later because I maybe I think 14:27.580 --> 14:30.840 Maybe some people still don't have a good understanding of why that is 14:31.500 --> 14:35.840 But um, I thought it's going to catch on like wildfire and you know, of course 14:35.840 --> 14:42.780 Some people did jump in and were helpful and packing was helpful like he brought a lot of awareness. He tried to um challenge 14:43.480 --> 14:47.940 in court the so-called authorities out there now burda 14:49.100 --> 14:56.980 But for the most part, um, you know, even within the freedom space, um health freedom space 14:58.620 --> 15:01.980 Most people were just they were they were, um 15:02.520 --> 15:06.500 Well, we were the fringe of the fringe of the fringe of the fringe, you know, we were 15:06.500 --> 15:09.860 Called every name in the book and we were accused of being cia 15:10.660 --> 15:16.860 Operatives and controlled opposition and you name it and told, you know, we're gonna be responsible for people's deaths 15:16.860 --> 15:22.960 because we're telling people these things don't exist and they they do and nobody can show us that they do 15:22.960 --> 15:24.660 but they do and 15:24.660 --> 15:24.980 um 15:25.880 --> 15:30.960 Yeah, like here. We are five years later and I'm not so surprised. I guess 15:31.540 --> 15:32.760 Given what I've learned about 15:33.280 --> 15:37.100 people like say robert of kennedy jr. Del big tree their 15:38.000 --> 15:46.640 Connections or what have you those big big platforms? Um, because they're almost to me part of the establishment themselves in a way 15:47.480 --> 15:49.220 But a lot of they're like more 15:49.820 --> 15:53.240 What you think is more grassroots and like I I don't understand 15:53.820 --> 15:57.880 It's been a huge disappointment that people wouldn't run with this information and 15:57.880 --> 15:59.900 So much effort was taken to 16:00.520 --> 16:05.180 Collect it here it is here take it and I have an affidavit and you know 16:05.180 --> 16:10.220 I offer to testify and most people's even in the freedom health freedom space. They don't want to go there 16:10.220 --> 16:15.380 So it's been hugely eye-opening in that way that just how hard it is number one 16:16.020 --> 16:16.280 to 16:16.860 --> 16:18.580 break through those mental 16:19.800 --> 16:21.940 barriers and that even a lot of people 16:23.300 --> 16:26.220 um, you know, they don't want to be seen as 16:27.040 --> 16:29.280 crazy person they don't want to 16:30.040 --> 16:32.580 They don't want to be the ones to put themselves out there 16:33.600 --> 16:35.200 um, but maybe we can 16:35.720 --> 16:36.140 today 16:36.740 --> 16:37.260 help 16:37.880 --> 16:40.500 Cut through that a little because if people 16:40.500 --> 16:48.320 I always try to tell people if you just understood the basics like how it's not really a complicated topic like literally children can understand 16:48.320 --> 16:54.240 So maybe we can talk a bit more and help make it seem less intimidating for people today 16:54.240 --> 16:56.940 Because I think that must be part of what's holding people back 16:56.940 --> 16:59.840 They don't want to be the one to put themselves out there because then they're afraid 16:59.840 --> 17:03.220 They don't know how to really defend the position very well 17:04.240 --> 17:09.340 Yeah, that's excellent. Let's do that. I I just wanted to comment a little bit that 17:09.340 --> 17:17.360 What i'm noticing as I dug further and deeper into various truths whether it's in the field of health or law in particular 17:18.320 --> 17:22.600 Two arenas that were extremely, um, you know, sigh opt and 17:23.360 --> 17:28.480 Really weaponized against us. It turns out that the truth is not fantastical 17:29.360 --> 17:32.380 Right, it's not exciting. It doesn't include 17:32.820 --> 17:36.340 I mean, it can include the the whole conspiracy in this in this case 17:36.340 --> 17:39.700 It's it's definitely got that on the other side of it 17:39.700 --> 17:43.960 But when you I definitely want to hear the basics, but they're not going to be like 17:44.740 --> 17:46.140 Wow, like the 17:46.140 --> 17:52.160 You know, like the lies are basically and it it doesn't necessarily mean everybody knows they're lying 17:52.160 --> 17:55.840 I'm very aware of that when I did the whole breakdown on controlled opposition 17:56.360 --> 18:02.400 And the archetypes of that I I had to become extremely aware that that people don't necessarily know 18:02.400 --> 18:08.760 That they're propagating lies. They don't understand their own motivations. That's what makes the subject so 18:09.360 --> 18:11.500 uh complicated complex 18:12.220 --> 18:18.040 Because it's not just information in and and then you know behavior and action out 18:18.040 --> 18:19.560 There's a whole mechanism 18:20.120 --> 18:25.040 Going on in here that stops us sometimes for personal reasons other reasons we talked about 18:25.820 --> 18:32.380 And uh, yeah, so and and then also where there is a lack of information for some people 18:32.380 --> 18:36.340 There's this tendency and I'll I'll use a technical term 18:36.820 --> 18:38.180 That they make shit up 18:39.920 --> 18:47.880 Right where there's a blank and they don't know they don't want to say they don't know we've been penalized for not knowing or acting 18:47.880 --> 18:54.290 You know not confident about what we say and then our imaginations go. I saw so many people they're inventors 18:55.180 --> 19:00.170 In this in this space and they can yeah. Yeah, go ahead and there's not um 19:01.000 --> 19:02.780 I think there's a lot of 19:03.400 --> 19:05.540 There's a lot of misplaced trust 19:06.160 --> 19:11.280 What I still see and I've you know, I've tried to bring this up in other interviews in the past is 19:12.080 --> 19:16.600 The importance of fact checking, you know, because I still see people 19:17.260 --> 19:18.080 very quick 19:18.860 --> 19:19.200 to 19:19.820 --> 19:22.180 if they see someone who's 19:22.180 --> 19:23.700 Comes across as trustworthy 19:24.880 --> 19:32.020 Either because they have the credentials and they you know, uh seem very professional and experienced and know what they're talking about 19:32.020 --> 19:33.540 That way or they're more like 19:34.260 --> 19:36.920 grassroots kind of very honest down to earth person 19:38.240 --> 19:41.740 There's this tendency to and and if they're saying something against the government 19:42.560 --> 19:50.180 against the those handlers that created these narratives, um, they tend to just trust people and 19:50.760 --> 19:56.200 Like you're saying those but those people who are telling them things. They don't necessarily know what they're talking about themselves either 19:56.800 --> 19:59.940 Or or they might be purposely confusing people 19:59.940 --> 20:04.960 But um, there's just not enough fact checking going on and like just for me personally 20:05.660 --> 20:10.140 My the one of the biggest influences this whole experience has had on me 20:10.140 --> 20:15.040 It's just like I keep my mouth shut about almost everything now because if I haven't 20:15.040 --> 20:21.740 Really looked into it. I just know like it's so easy to be wrong and to think everybody knows this, you know 20:21.740 --> 20:26.200 everybody knows what have you and um, sometimes we're just wrong so 20:27.200 --> 20:31.500 Just fact checking like takes the time to actually learn about something maybe before 20:32.160 --> 20:34.140 you think you know and 20:36.300 --> 20:37.700 Trying to teach other people 20:38.400 --> 20:41.740 Exactly. Yeah, we've become a culture that's educated by memes 20:42.360 --> 20:47.180 Right. So if we see it on a thing and an image and it says this is true 20:47.180 --> 20:48.480 Then we walk away with that 20:48.480 --> 20:52.000 I caught myself at that and uh early on I guess it was 20:52.000 --> 20:58.760 Was it 2021 by the time the jabs were out and they were saying here in manitoba that a 12 year old could go and do that on 20:58.760 --> 20:59.980 Their own without any 20:59.980 --> 21:06.200 parental consent and my son was 12 and the dad's going oh, he can make up his own mind. I'm like, oh come with me son 21:07.760 --> 21:09.320 Really good chat about this 21:09.840 --> 21:14.100 Luckily, he's to this day completely unmedicated and unjabbed 21:14.720 --> 21:21.800 We also went through a notice of liability process just not being able to sit back and and watch all of this corruption 21:22.000 --> 21:22.780 at the local 21:23.480 --> 21:27.880 school division level the you know right up to the the governor general 21:28.700 --> 21:35.000 And we used your work by the way to to go in and I discovered how many at that point 21:35.000 --> 21:40.860 How many claims were unverified and I had learned like a parrot to just say these things 21:40.860 --> 21:42.460 But could I back them up? 21:43.020 --> 21:49.820 And so that was the one good thing even though there was so much like crap and not not real stuff in that process 21:49.820 --> 21:56.800 But it did teach me to be quiet when I don't really know when I haven't really found the receipts 21:57.620 --> 22:03.780 Working with dr. Garrett smith. He's like next level if if you know if we think the people like yourself and 22:04.400 --> 22:08.560 I mean you're you're in his league too because you you're the one that's 22:08.560 --> 22:14.800 Going to I'm not yeah, I'm not trying to blow smoke up your butt, but it's standard. I'm uh, it's very low 22:15.680 --> 22:22.800 Right when it's just like I say this we all know it and then people just you know, it's that that logical fallacy of 22:22.800 --> 22:27.060 Well, it's popular there for it's true or it's all everybody knows 22:27.540 --> 22:31.840 And it's not that or it makes the government sound bad. So it must be true 22:32.740 --> 22:37.160 So that's why I'm lying. I'm like well, they're against the government. So they're on our side 22:37.160 --> 22:43.520 So let's just go with it. It's like that's not a long-term strategy if what they're saying is not actually accurate 22:43.520 --> 22:45.360 You're not going to be able to demonstrate it 22:46.180 --> 22:48.380 You nailed it with the on our side 22:48.380 --> 22:53.420 I for sure found myself in that are you with us or are you against us? 22:53.980 --> 23:01.060 And then see your your mind becomes polarized in these two categories and you start like accepting and eliminating or canceling 23:01.060 --> 23:06.500 People based on whether you think you and but but of course controlled opposition comes in and knows 23:07.040 --> 23:12.920 That division and polarity are the name of the game and if you can continue to split people 23:12.920 --> 23:15.400 I even think the the no virus 23:16.420 --> 23:17.620 world was 23:18.200 --> 23:24.000 Was again a source of weaponization. I don't know if you're free to talk about how 23:24.600 --> 23:29.140 Infiltrated it may have become I saw different conflicts from a little bit of a distance 23:29.140 --> 23:32.720 I never I never dove in and got involved with that myself 23:33.560 --> 23:38.900 But yeah, yeah, there is a character. I guess I won't 23:39.560 --> 23:47.900 Go into the details, but yeah, there is somebody on the scene that I have big question marks around and that 23:49.280 --> 23:54.260 Has a habit or quite a preoccupation with telling people 23:54.980 --> 23:59.760 things that aren't true about myself and other no virus people and 23:59.760 --> 24:06.380 Oh, I should tell you I sorry. There's something I should have mentioned to you from the beginning my my laptop 24:06.740 --> 24:10.780 Um, it recently it's had this strange new habit 24:10.780 --> 24:16.540 It'll just go dead all of a sudden and then I have to unplug it. So if it happens, I apologize. Hopefully it won't happen 24:16.540 --> 24:18.260 while we're talking, but 24:19.720 --> 24:24.440 Yeah, so just the fact checking, you know, and 24:25.800 --> 24:27.460 Not assuming that 24:28.280 --> 24:31.940 All as well just because somebody seems to be on our side 24:32.720 --> 24:38.840 But yeah, yeah, and it seems like all of the organic real movements get co-opted at some point 24:38.840 --> 24:42.140 People people see. Oh, there's a lot of eyeballs over there 24:42.140 --> 24:46.440 They're listening. We've got to come in and that's why I did the organics have controlled up 24:46.440 --> 24:52.640 You got the the well poisoners and you get the people. Oh money making opportunity got a bunch of scared people 24:53.300 --> 24:55.260 Need supplements or whatever 24:55.780 --> 25:00.600 Kind of thing going on and uh, yeah, so our truckers convoy in Canada 25:00.600 --> 25:07.200 I don't did you make did you make it to Ottawa? I did I visited a couple of times. Yeah, okay. Yeah, good for you. Yeah 25:09.320 --> 25:14.140 Right, I did not make it there, but we know that was highly uh co-opted as well 25:15.020 --> 25:20.240 I I have that impression. I never followed it closely, but that's my impression. Yeah 25:20.240 --> 25:27.560 Right. Oh at the beginning I thought the the savior had come and I I wept a lot and you know, the big crowds 25:28.120 --> 25:33.060 Showing up and the trucks going through it was also emotional and like we're winning. We're winning 25:34.660 --> 25:35.660 Yeah, yeah 25:35.660 --> 25:39.760 It was good in in terms of people I guess making connections and that sort of thing 25:39.760 --> 25:43.000 Like there are a lot of good came out of it for sure, but um 25:43.000 --> 25:47.780 It's just disappointing like we said here. We are all these several years later and 25:48.360 --> 25:50.200 still people are going along with these 25:50.760 --> 25:55.780 narratives about these, you know, supposed health threats and whatnot instead of just 25:55.780 --> 25:56.140 uh 25:56.960 --> 26:00.140 Putting the burden of proof where it belongs on the 26:00.920 --> 26:05.720 You know on the so-called authorities to prove their claims. It's as simple as that, you know 26:05.720 --> 26:09.940 And when I look back now on the water fluoridation how I handled that 26:10.440 --> 26:15.620 I I mean, I would certain things I would still stick to but one thing I would do is just 26:16.440 --> 26:18.900 Get away from um 26:18.900 --> 26:24.040 Discussing studies so much and just hammer more on you're saying this 26:24.600 --> 26:26.400 You're making these claims you prove it 26:27.200 --> 26:29.060 Plus then you still have the part about 26:29.720 --> 26:35.440 What right do you have to put something in people's drinking water to medicate them and experiment them on them? 26:35.820 --> 26:41.760 um, but in terms of the safety and effectiveness just hammer away on them on that 26:41.760 --> 26:48.740 You know put the burden of proof on them and the person I was alluding to a few minutes ago that in the no virus space 26:48.740 --> 26:53.720 You have questions about I mean one of the things this person has said which just blows my mind 26:54.040 --> 26:55.520 is um 26:56.220 --> 26:57.880 they've actually claimed that 26:59.600 --> 27:00.320 um 27:00.320 --> 27:03.780 falsifying the establishments narrative 27:04.660 --> 27:13.060 With by pointing out how ridiculous their studies are and with the freedom of information responses that that's that's somehow not enough 27:13.520 --> 27:16.080 That we actually need to do studies to 27:16.080 --> 27:22.140 Depond like to show something. It's like no the burden of proof is on the people making the claim 27:22.140 --> 27:29.780 It's up to them and their evidence is ludicrous on its face and we have all these legal confessions and failures, right? 27:29.960 --> 27:30.580 so that's the 27:31.880 --> 27:35.960 You know one of the things to just keep in mind that uh 27:35.960 --> 27:40.740 The burden of proof it's on the people making the claim and when it comes to something the government's doing 27:40.740 --> 27:43.920 It's on them. It's not on us to disprove 27:45.600 --> 27:46.060 Yeah 27:46.940 --> 27:51.040 I think that would save people a lot of time if we just focus more on that 27:51.040 --> 27:54.500 You you're telling us but you can't actually show it 27:54.940 --> 27:56.820 Right and then share that information 27:57.340 --> 28:01.820 Right exactly. Yeah, and then you get into the conditional acceptance. Like yes, I'll 28:02.340 --> 28:06.720 I'll uh accept this if you can prove that it's actually safe in reality 28:06.720 --> 28:11.520 Yeah, safe and effective and you know in this case that the thing actually exists 28:12.160 --> 28:17.740 It's you know the all their various claims and on that. No, um, I should mention 28:17.740 --> 28:22.100 There's um, actually in the I think it's a very useful resource 28:22.100 --> 28:27.140 that was created by sally felon moral and 28:28.280 --> 28:35.240 Another colleague here in canada and uh, I had a little input into it and that's um 28:36.040 --> 28:40.280 Right what you're saying. It's kind of a conditional acceptance. I don't think it actually says that on it 28:40.280 --> 28:43.680 It doesn't but it's the same kind of idea where it's for 28:44.120 --> 28:47.640 um, anybody dealing with um, 28:48.240 --> 28:52.940 Say you have chickens in your backyard or your farmer and the authorities 28:52.940 --> 28:59.720 Like the canadian food inspection agencies start coming to you and say no, we have concerns and we want to do a test 29:00.140 --> 29:03.880 We have uh on my on my, um, substack 29:05.900 --> 29:07.260 There's uh 29:07.260 --> 29:12.320 A document that people can use to give to those the so-called authorities 29:12.320 --> 29:18.480 Um and saying exactly that like we'll we'll consider we'll let you on the land to test or you know 29:18.940 --> 29:23.240 You can all people can alter it. They can make their own version, but this is something to get them started 29:24.100 --> 29:24.620 um 29:25.200 --> 29:26.400 After you provide 29:27.140 --> 29:32.120 And then we ask for all the studies showing other claims that there's a contagious illness that the 29:32.720 --> 29:37.460 Claimed causal agent exists that the tests have invalidated. What exactly do you want to test for? 29:37.640 --> 29:38.560 Which tests are you doing? 29:39.040 --> 29:41.860 Who are you who identify yourself in all that? 29:42.320 --> 29:45.920 and um, I really hope people will start um 29:46.640 --> 29:52.080 Making more use of either that document or something along those lines like you're saying conditional acceptance 29:52.840 --> 29:53.400 um 29:54.100 --> 29:59.640 And yeah, because when we put the burden of proof on them, it's it's powerful. I think you know 30:00.400 --> 30:00.700 and 30:01.440 --> 30:07.760 Michael there's a gentleman named michael openisha. Um, I don't know if i'm saying his name exactly correct 30:07.760 --> 30:08.120 um 30:08.880 --> 30:09.360 in 30:09.940 --> 30:13.380 england and he was saying they had done a lot of that conditional 30:14.420 --> 30:17.680 Acceptances over there the farmers had and that had helped them 30:18.240 --> 30:18.820 quite a bit 30:19.720 --> 30:20.200 So 30:20.740 --> 30:26.320 It's worth a try anyway, right? Absolutely. Yes. Yeah, I would love to have those resources 30:26.320 --> 30:30.820 Maybe if you send them to me after then I can post them in the show notes for people as well 30:31.680 --> 30:33.420 So yep, that's really good 30:34.480 --> 30:34.960 um 30:34.960 --> 30:42.680 Would you like to go in and and do a basic less intimidating version of being able to explain to your friends why there's 30:42.680 --> 30:43.980 No virus if they 30:44.580 --> 30:46.300 Have half a year to do that 30:46.300 --> 30:52.860 Yeah, I'd love to see there's a few comments in the chat also that uh, yeah zero percent of science is making shit up 30:52.860 --> 30:55.800 in the in the real definition of science exactly 30:56.780 --> 30:58.620 yeah, and uh 30:59.180 --> 31:03.400 Christine does canadian tap water have a french language options. Sorry. That's just like enough 31:03.400 --> 31:05.080 I thought that was a different question 31:07.280 --> 31:12.840 Mary benton the thing with fact checking is some databases are possibly wrong and some of the people fact checking 31:12.840 --> 31:15.460 Cannot interpret correctly what they are reading 31:16.760 --> 31:23.400 Well, well, that's such a really important point because one of the things like that I became very aware of 31:23.400 --> 31:25.500 because of this whole situation was 31:26.260 --> 31:32.520 And this is where people will make mistakes where they go online or wherever they happen to be looking and they find 31:32.520 --> 31:37.900 That there are studies saying that they isolated this these alleged particles, right? 31:38.440 --> 31:45.640 So the the big lesson has been like an andy, of course and tom cowen and the bailes and others have hammered on this also 31:46.840 --> 31:52.300 You they'll have it'll say in the title and it'll say in the abstract. Oh, yeah, this that's what we did 31:52.300 --> 31:55.220 You know, it's where you have to read the method section 31:55.220 --> 32:01.760 So that's the key to it all like you you go to the method section and start looking at what did they actually do 32:01.760 --> 32:04.700 In that study when you're cut when it comes to this topic 32:04.700 --> 32:10.520 Most people have to learn some key terminology to be able to figure out what's going on 32:10.520 --> 32:16.140 And it'll help a lot if you look at some of the, you know, the talks from tom and andy and the bailes and mic stone and whatnot 32:17.160 --> 32:17.560 um 32:18.500 --> 32:21.560 But um, that's where you see that's where everything 32:22.360 --> 32:27.780 Starts falling apart because you see well, hang on a minute the methods that they that they apply 32:28.460 --> 32:32.060 They're not they're not even capable. It wouldn't even matter what results they get 32:32.440 --> 32:39.220 It doesn't matter. You're not doing, um, logical valid procedures and experiments. So 32:40.460 --> 32:43.380 Yeah, so I mean shall I um 32:44.020 --> 32:45.460 Go into that a little bit 32:45.460 --> 32:55.120 Yeah, exactly and and maybe with some of those terms as well highlighting the way, you know, isn't the word isolate problematic all by itself 32:55.640 --> 32:57.420 Yeah, that word, um 32:57.920 --> 32:58.640 for sure 32:58.640 --> 33:06.540 and I was using it initially in the um in the freedom of information requests and because that's the word that the 33:06.540 --> 33:11.600 The virologists use they'll they'll say they isolated the these alleged particles 33:12.300 --> 33:12.900 Um 33:13.760 --> 33:19.140 But it turns out what they're doing is it's the complete opposite and they haven't even shown that that particle is there 33:19.800 --> 33:26.440 Um, so personally, I prefer to stick to the word purification just because I find it tends to be a little more clear 33:26.440 --> 33:27.580 there tends to be less 33:29.240 --> 33:31.820 You know controversy around that 33:32.520 --> 33:33.000 word 33:34.040 --> 33:34.520 and 33:35.660 --> 33:40.500 So because what will happen sometimes if you say they haven't isolated the virus, you know, then the people 33:41.600 --> 33:44.300 Find these studies and they think you're wrong, right? 33:44.840 --> 33:49.200 So what we what you actually need to look for is studies where they actually 33:49.900 --> 33:52.960 looked in bodily fluid tissue fluid or tissue 33:53.680 --> 33:54.320 and 33:54.980 --> 33:59.440 found these alleged particles and separated them out from everything else that's in there 33:59.920 --> 34:01.420 So to to purify them 34:01.900 --> 34:05.420 and the reason that's important is because um 34:05.980 --> 34:10.480 There's two things that need to be done. You need to identify that particle and 34:11.040 --> 34:16.940 These alleged particles they're said to be submicroscopic. So too small to even see with a microscope 34:17.800 --> 34:20.580 supposedly they're on the nanoscale, so 34:21.480 --> 34:23.260 You know, you you can't 34:23.260 --> 34:27.560 You know pick them up and look at them from different angles and measure them and whatnot 34:27.560 --> 34:31.100 It's obviously that these are laboratory procedures that are being used 34:31.800 --> 34:36.140 Um, but you you need to like basic things that they do and I'm no expert on this topic 34:36.140 --> 34:40.120 But one thing for sure we all know about is they claim to have sequenced the particle 34:40.860 --> 34:47.780 And they claim to have otherwise care. Well, they claim to know the size and the density and they claim to know what proteins it has 34:48.500 --> 34:49.560 so the problem 34:50.860 --> 34:54.120 Is is that what they do is? 34:55.040 --> 35:01.480 Um, they don't even look in the bodily fluid or tissue almost never like rarely do you even see that in these studies 35:03.160 --> 35:10.260 Instead they take the position that um, they wouldn't be able to find these alleged particles in the bodily fluid or tissue 35:10.860 --> 35:14.000 There there would be too little of it. They won't be able to spot it 35:14.860 --> 35:17.240 And that in of itself is 35:17.760 --> 35:20.940 That's quite bizarre because they're telling us there's it's 35:20.940 --> 35:26.480 Replicating in the people and that's what's making them sick can even killing some people 35:26.480 --> 35:31.080 And plus you're claiming that you know that it's there and you can test for it and whatnot. So 35:31.860 --> 35:37.840 Um, if you can't actually find it you don't actually have any grounds for claiming that it's in there 35:37.840 --> 35:45.240 But this is how things work. They're not at all logical in virology. So they take the position. Well, um 35:45.240 --> 35:49.680 We wouldn't be able to find it. So we're not gonna bother looking for it or try to purify it out 35:51.180 --> 35:54.000 So what they do instead is they say well, we need to 35:54.000 --> 35:57.940 Grow it so that there'll be more of it and then you know, we can find it better 35:58.400 --> 36:00.940 So they do what they'll call a cell culture 36:01.600 --> 36:07.940 And so what they do is they take the clinical sample. It could have been from a swab or um lung fluid 36:08.860 --> 36:11.720 They take the sample from the patient sometimes they might 36:11.720 --> 36:16.500 Grow larger particles, but not necessarily a lot of time. They don't even do that 36:17.320 --> 36:22.080 And they'll put it in a cell culture. So first what they'll do is these are cells that 36:22.080 --> 36:28.420 We purchase from the companies and those different cell lines. There's the kinds of different 36:29.140 --> 36:30.960 Types, but one that gets used a lot 36:31.700 --> 36:33.680 in virology and that was used with 36:34.360 --> 36:34.660 the 36:35.220 --> 36:37.100 situation that started in 2020 36:37.780 --> 36:38.880 um, they're often using 36:39.540 --> 36:42.380 What are called Vero cells Vero cells are 36:43.580 --> 36:48.060 Epithelial kidney epithelial cells from an African green monkey 36:48.700 --> 36:54.080 So not even dealing with cells from people. It's not like some a healthy person's lung cells 36:54.080 --> 36:58.560 Let's let's see if we can nicely, uh, you know, get the get the virus to grow and 36:59.260 --> 37:03.360 Attack the the healthy lung cells. It's not even that 37:04.080 --> 37:11.220 It's monkey kidney cells. So right away people should be saying like what the heck why on earth 37:12.680 --> 37:14.620 Would you need to grow this 37:15.720 --> 37:19.140 Thing that supposedly made, you know, it's a respiratory 37:19.900 --> 37:20.460 situation 37:21.160 --> 37:26.260 In people, why would you why would you need monkey kidney cells to grow it? 37:27.620 --> 37:29.680 But that's and it seems like 37:30.300 --> 37:33.740 Those are the cells that she have a tendency to break down pretty easily 37:33.740 --> 37:38.300 So that's probably why they use them and that make more sense when I explain a bit more 37:38.860 --> 37:42.500 so what they do is they have the cells the cell line and they 37:42.980 --> 37:48.180 normally if you just want to maintain the cell line they have to give it nutrition and 37:48.740 --> 37:53.460 Uh, for whatever reason one of the sources new of nutrition that they tend to give is 37:53.460 --> 38:01.680 Fetal bovine serum is usually what I what I usually see it called which is um, you know serum from a cow from a 38:02.480 --> 38:04.720 fetus that was taken out of its mother 38:06.160 --> 38:11.140 Uh, apparently in a really horrific manner and so now you're getting 38:11.600 --> 38:14.660 You know more bizarre elements coming in so we need 38:14.660 --> 38:18.320 We need kidney cells from a monkey. We need cow serum 38:19.560 --> 38:23.760 And to and then they add they might add a nutrient mix as well 38:23.760 --> 38:27.440 And they'll add antibiotics and antifungals 38:28.020 --> 38:30.020 And their logic there is they don't want other 38:30.680 --> 38:33.640 Contamined like bacteria. What have you growing in the dish? 38:34.220 --> 38:36.880 Which makes sense in a way like you can kind of see 38:37.460 --> 38:40.920 Logic there, but then you have to take into account. Well, how is that affecting the cells? 38:41.220 --> 38:43.500 Because it turns out what they eventually do 38:44.380 --> 38:47.240 They'll have a way of maintaining the cell line with those ingredients 38:47.240 --> 38:51.200 But then what they do in the neurology studies is they'll drop the 38:51.200 --> 38:57.060 Fetal bovine serum down to a fraction of what it normally would have so it's not getting the nutrients 38:57.820 --> 38:59.940 And then they will 39:00.980 --> 39:04.880 Double the amount of antibiotics and antifungals 39:05.460 --> 39:09.440 So they're not keeping it in its normal situation. So 39:10.100 --> 39:16.400 And then there's what they do. They add the clinical sample to this mixture that they've created and and you know 39:17.360 --> 39:23.180 Another big point here is that this is being done in a laboratory in a dish or a vial 39:23.180 --> 39:31.040 Totally unnatural situation that cannot tell you anything about why actually goes on in a human body. This is a totally contrived 39:31.640 --> 39:32.160 situation 39:33.360 --> 39:36.380 Again, it won't even matter what results you get because 39:36.380 --> 39:40.460 This is not telling you anything about natural living body 39:41.660 --> 39:45.980 But what they do is they put in the clinical sample and then they'll watch this 39:46.480 --> 39:52.760 Culture for several days and if they starts to break down in a certain way, I'm no expert on cell cultures 39:52.760 --> 39:53.080 but 39:53.800 --> 39:59.220 If the cells start to break down they call it cytopathic effects cpe for short 39:59.900 --> 40:00.500 and 40:01.140 --> 40:04.660 This is what they take as evidence that the alleged 40:05.280 --> 40:07.400 Particles were in the clinical sample 40:08.060 --> 40:14.680 That they grew in the monkey cells and that they are what caused the monkey cells to break down 40:15.160 --> 40:20.660 Not the not the starvation not the the extra chemicals or something to do that 40:21.320 --> 40:26.000 It's this imagined part of it's literally just imagined like you haven't seen it 40:26.000 --> 40:28.980 You didn't show that it was in the clinical sample. You're just 40:29.540 --> 40:31.480 projecting based on these effects 40:32.120 --> 40:32.420 um 40:32.960 --> 40:34.560 And that they've isolated it 40:35.180 --> 40:42.460 Like it's so far detached from reality and as I say even a child could understand because like one of the analogies we give is 40:42.980 --> 40:46.380 It's like saying well, they're engaging in the logical fallacy 40:47.220 --> 40:48.800 like circular reasoning 40:49.480 --> 40:50.060 where they 40:50.500 --> 40:51.100 say well 40:51.620 --> 40:57.260 If there is that thing is in the clinical sample it will cause the monkey cells to break down 40:58.480 --> 41:00.700 The monkey cells did break down 41:00.700 --> 41:07.580 That means that the thing is the cause of the cells breaking down and that's just a logical fallacy 41:07.580 --> 41:14.040 Where you know if a then b but then they try to go backwards and they say if b then a but that doesn't make sense 41:14.040 --> 41:16.160 so it's like saying that 41:16.160 --> 41:19.800 Well, if santa exists and santa 41:19.800 --> 41:26.300 Visits the house on christmas eve will find presents under the tree and then christmas morning 41:26.300 --> 41:29.420 You look and you find presents under the tree and then you say there 41:29.420 --> 41:36.040 We know we know that santa exists and not only that but we isolated him. I mean if somebody published 41:36.880 --> 41:37.680 You know 41:38.780 --> 41:43.680 Everybody everybody could see and and even children as they grow up 41:43.680 --> 41:47.580 They start catching on like this story isn't quite adding up, right? 41:49.080 --> 41:49.640 so 41:50.560 --> 41:51.060 And 41:52.040 --> 41:59.160 That's how absurd it is and in literally everything that they do in virology is on that level of absurdity 41:59.160 --> 42:04.300 They don't actually demonstrate what they claim that they're demonstrating. So this is why you need to go to the method section 42:04.820 --> 42:08.500 So they will say based on that we isolated the virus and what I've been doing 42:09.860 --> 42:10.360 is 42:11.140 --> 42:11.920 Show me 42:12.440 --> 42:18.520 Studies that you have that this you know an institution like health canada studies that you hold 42:19.400 --> 42:22.420 Where anybody in the world doesn't matter who authored this 42:22.420 --> 42:24.840 They actually found these 42:24.840 --> 42:32.240 purported particles in the bodily fluid reticent actually separated them out. So don't I'm not looking for these cell culture studies 42:32.760 --> 42:38.400 I'm not looking for studies where you know, you did a PCR test or some of the other silly things that they do 42:38.400 --> 42:42.380 Like I'm looking for very clearly. It was stated very clearly 42:42.380 --> 42:49.120 Um, not these other things. This is what I want just per the everyday definition of the word isolation 42:49.740 --> 42:54.140 And then later I changed it to purification just to make it more clear 42:55.600 --> 43:01.240 So, yeah, that's what that's what they don't have. They don't have any these foundational, um 43:01.840 --> 43:03.380 Studies that wouldn't be needed 43:04.120 --> 43:09.760 And then just to explain a little bit more and and this is good too. This is important for people to know 43:10.400 --> 43:16.140 There's been a lot of attention on the ostrich situation in canada in for the last almost year now 43:16.920 --> 43:23.420 And one thing that I've heard said many many times and I said it myself earlier on too because this is what I heard 43:23.420 --> 43:27.220 And I guess I still haven't fully learned my lesson to fact check 43:28.400 --> 43:30.800 Was that the birds 43:31.330 --> 43:36.740 Had only been tested with PCR two two birds that had died were tested with PCR 43:36.740 --> 43:40.600 So I always thought that's all that was done. It was the PCR tests 43:41.320 --> 43:45.300 But it turns out what I learned and it seems like I feel like 43:45.300 --> 43:48.200 Nobody else really seems to realize this 43:48.740 --> 43:49.600 very few people 43:50.380 --> 43:55.540 Is according to the court documents one of the supposed experts of the government 43:56.280 --> 43:59.960 She was saying no no in her affidavit. She was saying no no 43:59.960 --> 44:05.040 They also did the sequencing and they also did a cell culture 44:05.040 --> 44:06.760 so this is um 44:06.760 --> 44:13.140 For you know, because there are a lot of people concerned about that situation and of course they're going after other birds too 44:13.900 --> 44:17.220 Based on that same narrative that avian influenza narrative 44:17.960 --> 44:18.440 um 44:18.440 --> 44:23.160 So it's good for people to know this because um if you think it's just the PCR 44:23.160 --> 44:25.560 There's a lot of awareness about the problems with PCR 44:25.560 --> 44:31.300 But people need to be aware that these other pieces of the puzzle as well because that way when you understand them 44:31.300 --> 44:33.300 You can rebut them if you don't understand it 44:33.300 --> 44:39.260 Then you might get stuck and you'd be like, oh, okay. I didn't know they did sequencing and they did uh cell culture all 44:39.260 --> 44:44.440 Some people will think that's legit. Oh, okay. They guys they did show that there's that thing 44:45.340 --> 44:45.740 so 44:46.700 --> 44:49.840 Hope i'm making sense. I'm kind of going off on the engines, but 44:51.480 --> 44:51.880 So 44:52.980 --> 44:58.920 So regardless so I already talked about the cell culture and how ridiculous that is and it's not always monkey kidney cells 44:58.920 --> 45:00.320 But doesn't matter the thing is 45:00.970 --> 45:05.920 They bought some cells. They lowered the nutrition. They put in these extra chemicals 45:06.480 --> 45:09.120 And then they just wildly project 45:09.770 --> 45:13.320 That it was the the thing of interest that they think exists 45:13.320 --> 45:16.440 That that's what did it when clearly you haven't demonstrated that 45:16.440 --> 45:24.260 So in order to demonstrate causation the way the scientific method works and even young very young people would know this from learning it in school 45:25.070 --> 45:26.020 It's quite simple 45:26.700 --> 45:34.220 You have something of the what they call the independent variables. That's the thing that you think might cause an effect 45:35.160 --> 45:35.760 and 45:36.520 --> 45:38.780 The effect is the dependent variable 45:39.380 --> 45:43.280 And so what you would typically do you would have two groups of subjects 45:43.780 --> 45:46.820 One is your experimental group and the other is your control group 45:47.620 --> 45:50.840 And you should keep everything the same as much as you can 45:50.840 --> 45:57.900 And when it comes to people or animals like we're not all the same, but one thing that should be done is randomization 45:58.500 --> 46:01.300 So that if you have large enough numbers 46:02.580 --> 46:05.620 If you randomize the subjects to the groups the 46:06.400 --> 46:07.980 experimental versus control 46:09.260 --> 46:15.820 There's little chance the larger your numbers are the less the chance is that there's going to be any sort of imbalance between those two groups 46:15.820 --> 46:21.440 So that helps control for potentially confounding variables that you can't 46:22.380 --> 46:24.960 Control in other ways or that you're not even aware of 46:26.840 --> 46:27.880 So um 46:27.880 --> 46:32.460 And so you'd want to keep all the conditions the same in both groups as much as you can 46:32.460 --> 46:37.740 And then in the experimental group the one thing that would be different is it gets exposed to the thing 46:37.740 --> 46:39.520 That you think might be the cause 46:39.520 --> 46:43.380 So you have to have the thing like there's no getting around it 46:43.380 --> 46:48.540 If you want to apply this scientific method you have to already know that that thing exists like the particle 46:49.260 --> 46:53.800 And and you have to have it and you need to have it purified because if you just 46:53.800 --> 46:57.120 Take someone's bodily fluid or some 46:57.770 --> 47:02.120 This contents from the cell culture, which is what you see in some experiments 47:02.660 --> 47:03.160 Um 47:03.780 --> 47:06.460 That's not that's not the thing of interest 47:06.460 --> 47:10.340 they'll do an experiment where that is what they add and 47:10.340 --> 47:15.900 Like you're not you're not even testing the correct hypothesis. You're making claims about a 47:16.480 --> 47:20.260 Disapposite particle, but you're that's not you have any shown that you have it 47:21.060 --> 47:21.360 so 47:22.220 --> 47:26.400 So then um kind of dicey could I could I jump in here quickly is uh? 47:26.680 --> 47:31.620 It's still dicey because the the you know to get a true control 47:32.560 --> 47:34.540 Is not really possible 47:35.200 --> 47:39.060 well, it's it's not possible for the very reason that 47:39.600 --> 47:41.820 They don't have the thing to begin with 47:43.980 --> 47:44.460 Yeah 47:46.320 --> 47:51.340 You had to purify then you could do your best at least to make sure everything's the same in both groups 47:51.880 --> 47:55.060 And the randomized would a randomization would help with that 47:55.740 --> 47:55.980 right 47:57.460 --> 48:04.060 Just like just just the point and I'm not sure if it's even a value to to make it but uh because things are 48:04.060 --> 48:05.860 much more intensely complex 48:06.620 --> 48:09.460 Where where there's one thing causes the other thing 48:09.460 --> 48:17.060 It's it's always going to be problematic and and trying to isolate that there's just one thing causing another thing 48:17.060 --> 48:20.820 Good luck with that because we're in a realm that is everything 48:21.300 --> 48:24.800 You know, it's one. It's actually one field in in reality 48:25.920 --> 48:29.040 Yeah, and you know, I think the scientific method 48:29.040 --> 48:32.240 It's like the best you can do like how else can you do it? 48:32.240 --> 48:36.740 If you're if you're claiming to be a scientist and you want to test a hypothesis 48:37.240 --> 48:41.300 It's on you to use the most rigorous methods that you can do 48:41.300 --> 48:46.400 But I totally agree and like even if someone did show that these alleged particles exist and do experiments 48:47.060 --> 48:47.500 Um 48:48.560 --> 48:51.460 Showing causation, you know, and you you don't just one experiment 48:51.460 --> 48:56.100 You need the independent groups, you know doing the same thing over and over and and over 48:56.100 --> 48:59.160 You know if they keep getting the same sort of results and you start trusting 48:59.160 --> 49:02.360 Um, you know that that's what's going on 49:02.880 --> 49:06.300 But even then if you had shown that that doesn't mean that 49:07.280 --> 49:11.600 Somebody with a PCR test that that's why they're sick or um 49:12.320 --> 49:16.620 Uh, especially when the you know the thing isn't actually shown to exist, but 49:17.560 --> 49:23.020 Even if you found the thing even if you actually went to the trouble and actually found the thing and verified that that thing 49:23.020 --> 49:26.040 Isn't their body that still doesn't tell you that that's why they are sick 49:26.600 --> 49:26.900 because 49:26.900 --> 49:32.440 You know what I mean? There's all kinds of other factors as well. It's like saying, um 49:33.140 --> 49:37.720 You see the fireman at the fire and you're you well, no, that's different, but 49:38.460 --> 49:44.660 Um, uh, there's just other factors that can be coming into play too and it's interesting because even the cdc 49:45.500 --> 49:48.220 They have a document on the 49:48.900 --> 49:50.160 testing for the 49:50.160 --> 49:50.800 2020 49:52.000 --> 49:52.560 narrative 49:53.940 --> 49:59.820 Where they say right in it that even if you get a positive result like that doesn't necessarily tell you 49:59.820 --> 50:02.840 That that is the cause of any illness 50:03.620 --> 50:06.500 Right, and then we also know that there's all these 50:07.240 --> 50:12.260 People that test positive and they don't even they don't have any symptoms. Like they're they're perfectly fine 50:12.980 --> 50:13.540 so 50:13.540 --> 50:17.520 Yeah, so I agree with you that it's um 50:19.320 --> 50:19.840 That 50:20.540 --> 50:22.320 We're in a complex world and 50:22.320 --> 50:25.860 It's to really really proof causation 50:25.860 --> 50:28.320 That's a you know, pretty difficult thing to do 50:28.320 --> 50:33.340 But you can apply the scientific method and and have and this is what people around the world 50:33.340 --> 50:36.420 We think the governments have been doing all these different health institutions 50:37.260 --> 50:42.300 Um that they have been doing valid legitimate experiments all these years and they have 50:42.860 --> 50:46.700 Done the very best possible, you know, and it turns out there's just 50:47.340 --> 50:49.240 Nothing could be further from the truth 50:50.680 --> 50:53.900 Exactly. Yeah, I think the one thing that you said like repeatable results 50:53.900 --> 50:57.300 That points towards something even if it's not perfect 50:57.890 --> 51:00.710 Then you can you know, and that's in a way what we're 51:01.360 --> 51:05.260 That would you call yourself a detective? By the way, do you have a do you have a detective? 51:05.480 --> 51:06.700 Spirit or is it more driven? 51:08.120 --> 51:11.960 Not as much these days as I used to but yeah, like yeah, yeah 51:11.960 --> 51:14.020 That would be more of a secondary 51:14.820 --> 51:20.740 Motivation, but but yeah those repeatable results when you can I've been doing this a lot lately just in the last year 51:20.740 --> 51:25.060 figuring out a way to eat that's the lowest possible poison and 51:25.840 --> 51:28.380 Favouring for for the greatest amount of detox 51:28.920 --> 51:32.700 That would naturally happen if I wasn't being poisoned all the time and then and then you know 51:32.700 --> 51:39.420 certain small experiments and and learning to make oh just add one variable at a time and for 51:39.420 --> 51:45.980 Some time to come also so I can really sit back and actually observe did one thing cause 51:46.540 --> 51:52.840 Another thing and is it a is it is the cause like this or is the cause like this meaning? 51:53.800 --> 51:55.920 um, you know do the results change 51:56.820 --> 51:58.020 over time 51:58.020 --> 52:05.180 That complexity and you can start to actually elucidate like yeah every time I eat black beans. It seems to go well 52:05.920 --> 52:06.440 Yeah 52:06.440 --> 52:13.940 Yeah, I know it seems like a dumb example, but I had no no no I'm used to the point that yeah 52:13.940 --> 52:16.180 It does come down to 52:16.800 --> 52:22.480 To me it comes down to did you well your experiment you're not you're not really doing an experiment you're 52:23.020 --> 52:28.460 You're doing things differently on different days. You're not doing an experiment where there's a bunch of different subjects and you're 52:28.460 --> 52:30.720 Comparing two different groups at the same time 52:30.720 --> 52:38.860 So, you know it's that's just how it is. We're want to know about our bodies what agrees with our own bodies and yeah, it's can be very 52:39.720 --> 52:40.220 um 52:41.400 --> 52:43.440 Complex to try to parse that out 52:43.960 --> 52:50.080 Yeah, in one body never minded many many so yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think when you have many then it actually 52:51.040 --> 52:56.740 you're then you can do at least the controlled experiments in in a different sort of way and um 52:56.740 --> 53:05.820 Yeah, apply the scientific method and this is what people think they think virology is the science that these virologists are scientists and that they're 53:05.820 --> 53:09.720 They're doing you know, they have massive amounts of money and these 53:10.420 --> 53:13.180 research facilities that that company else can go into 53:13.980 --> 53:16.120 conveniently enough and 53:16.120 --> 53:16.760 um 53:17.540 --> 53:25.280 They think there's legitimate research going on and when people find out I just keep saying like oh, hell's gonna break loose when people realize 53:25.980 --> 53:30.080 Just the the degree to which they've actually been misled 53:30.900 --> 53:31.460 um 53:32.200 --> 53:34.760 So yeah with uh, yeah 53:35.540 --> 53:38.300 Um, that that would be interesting. Um 53:39.040 --> 53:43.100 So the sequencing I'll just talk about that a bit very briefly too 53:44.280 --> 53:46.620 So though what um 53:47.260 --> 53:49.960 Well, what you would need to do if you wanted to sequence something 53:49.960 --> 53:56.920 I'm not pretending to be an expert on the topic of sequencing, but there's some very basic points that you you can't get around to 53:57.480 --> 53:57.760 so 53:58.840 --> 54:00.120 if you want to 54:00.680 --> 54:01.020 know 54:01.720 --> 54:02.060 this 54:02.980 --> 54:04.020 genome of 54:04.020 --> 54:11.620 A particle well first off you wouldn't even know at the beginning with something like you don't even know if there is a genome inside there, right? 54:12.020 --> 54:13.960 You'd have to find out 54:14.500 --> 54:21.440 But if you want to know that whatever genetic material and I'm just going to take genetic materials a given for this conversation because 54:21.960 --> 54:25.460 People are questioning that as well. I haven't done a deep dive into it 54:25.460 --> 54:28.500 I'm like kind of frustrated people won't even use the information 54:29.120 --> 54:32.140 I I did get for them. So I'm not going any further 54:32.720 --> 54:36.580 But I'll just assume for now that there's such thing as DNA and RNA 54:37.860 --> 54:40.080 And and it might be I don't know 54:40.640 --> 54:41.080 um 54:41.620 --> 54:42.260 but the 54:42.920 --> 54:45.020 So that's you know to sequence something 54:45.020 --> 54:47.260 That's what you're looking for. So you need to know that 54:47.880 --> 54:51.620 The DNA or the RNA that you're in the sequence 54:52.420 --> 54:54.740 actually came from the particle of interest 54:55.380 --> 54:58.800 If you don't have purified particles you only have 54:59.560 --> 55:02.520 The snot or the lung fluid or the cell culture 55:03.640 --> 55:04.240 um 55:04.240 --> 55:10.680 And you what they'll do is they add an enzyme and it's so that uh any cells will break open 55:11.170 --> 55:11.920 and if any 55:12.680 --> 55:17.060 Those particles of interest actually existed they would also break open 55:17.590 --> 55:22.160 And that way they're able to separate out the genetic material from all the stuff 55:22.160 --> 55:27.000 That's in the clinical sample or the cell culture. So they're separating out that well 55:27.510 --> 55:29.680 When you do it that way you don't 55:29.680 --> 55:35.860 You don't now you have all these millions of different sequences that they detect they apply their technology 55:36.980 --> 55:42.900 Well, now you don't have a way of saying well, which ones came from which particles like there's no you can't 55:43.560 --> 55:47.480 You can't work backwards. You don't know. That's why you have to have the purified sample 55:48.080 --> 55:52.180 Because then you know, whatever you end up with whatever genetic material 55:52.180 --> 55:55.680 That's where it came from. It's the only place where it could have come from 55:55.680 --> 56:00.060 So that's why for the sequencing and then the other thing to know 56:00.880 --> 56:04.020 When you hear that they you know, they sequence the supposed thing 56:04.820 --> 56:08.900 Um, they don't actually find this supposed genome intact 56:09.500 --> 56:13.820 Never ever as far as I have ever seen and this is something for the last year and a half 56:13.820 --> 56:17.980 I've been challenging the institutions on too when I do a freedom of information 56:18.580 --> 56:20.920 I'll ask them also show any study 56:21.700 --> 56:23.200 Uh where anyone 56:24.060 --> 56:25.320 found this supposed 56:26.680 --> 56:31.480 Genome intact in anyone's bodily fluid or tissue and they can't even show that 56:32.220 --> 56:35.140 So what they do and this is a very simple 56:35.140 --> 56:37.620 I'm not going to go into elaborate details on people 56:37.620 --> 56:40.040 But they it's just computer modeling 56:40.520 --> 56:44.720 So they detect millions of different sequences and in the key study 56:45.340 --> 56:49.220 for the supposed event that began in 2020 56:49.780 --> 56:54.980 The foundational study where they supposedly sequenced that particle for the first time 56:55.540 --> 56:58.560 They had 56 and a half million different 56:59.600 --> 57:01.520 smaller sequences to work with 57:01.520 --> 57:04.180 Okay, I mean come on. This is so 57:05.440 --> 57:11.780 The average person can understand you took 50. I think they took it from the lung fluid if I remember correctly 57:12.760 --> 57:15.760 It was either lung fluid or the cell culture, but I think it was the lung fluid 57:16.260 --> 57:17.000 You've got 50 57:17.000 --> 57:24.520 I mean you're gonna have cells from the people and I mean the human genome project too that nobody knows what the genome 57:24.980 --> 57:27.840 If there even is one of that person that you're taking 57:28.540 --> 57:32.540 The sample from you don't know what sequences just were from them 57:33.200 --> 57:40.200 Or as other people have pointed out bacteria fungi stuff. They breathe in, you know, like there's all kinds of potential 57:40.920 --> 57:42.700 sources for this stuff 57:43.480 --> 57:48.220 And you haven't shown that there is a particle that fits the definition of the the v thing 57:49.980 --> 57:53.840 You've got 56 and a half million sequences. You don't know the origin of them 57:53.840 --> 57:56.660 You don't know that you can't look at any of them and say, okay 57:56.660 --> 58:00.380 They all came from that one particle of interest because you didn't identify something 58:01.300 --> 58:02.080 You're just 58:02.800 --> 58:09.200 Making shit up. So they all this information is in a computer and they with that 58:09.760 --> 58:12.320 particular study they had two different softwares 58:12.920 --> 58:16.480 And they had them both rearrange they look for areas where 58:17.180 --> 58:23.020 Part of one sequence overlaps with another and they have to computer try all these different rearrangements 58:23.020 --> 58:28.040 And the one software ended up with over 1.3 million of these longer 58:28.960 --> 58:32.140 Sequences they call contigs the other one that was over 58:32.740 --> 58:37.060 I forget. I think it was under a million, but I forget the exact number right now 58:37.900 --> 58:41.040 By was it 365,000 or something? Anyway 58:41.860 --> 58:45.000 Of course, right, and then they just picked the longest one 58:46.040 --> 58:48.040 And they said that's the reference genome 58:48.660 --> 58:53.260 So these all these genomes whenever you hear about a genome for one of these supposed particles 58:53.260 --> 58:57.500 It's just computer modeling and there's no there's nothing logical behind it 58:57.500 --> 58:59.440 There's and there's not there's no reference 58:59.960 --> 59:06.840 Because then when you go back in history and say well, oh, they were comparing it to an earlier supposed thing to see how similar their new 59:06.840 --> 59:09.660 Genome is they were all made up too 59:10.400 --> 59:12.740 They're all just made up. You're just comparing one 59:14.460 --> 59:21.260 Cartoon, you know nonsense to another that's all it is. It's literally just not it's so ridiculous 59:22.020 --> 59:28.220 Yeah, I was about to use the word cartoon that was if you don't mind if I jump in that that is a way to 59:29.420 --> 59:42.720 Appeal to our childlike nature you could say and and this is something that happened a lot. I'm 59:42.720 --> 59:43.340 I'm not going to be in 59:44.000 --> 59:51.820 Come 2020 stand on the stickers wave your finger go home. You're making grandma sick just exactly the way you would speak to a child 59:51.820 --> 59:53.580 And then they show us the cartoons 59:54.260 --> 59:56.160 Yes, I guess yes, right 59:56.160 --> 01:00:03.160 And and they're profoundly influencing because you know if you if you say virus to someone they're probably going to get one of those 01:00:03.160 --> 01:00:08.640 Especially if it's a cv thing, they're probably going to get one of those stupid green pokey things in their mind 01:00:09.180 --> 01:00:15.840 Yeah, exactly even if they know differently, but they've those things have been married in their own consciousness 01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:20.580 So there's there's an openness to the truth quote unquote truth of that 01:00:21.240 --> 01:00:26.220 Yeah, and um, yeah, they definitely absolutely treated us like children and 01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:34.580 They made us they convinced people. I mean many people have pointed out the absurdity of telling people that there's a disease so 01:00:35.560 --> 01:00:39.820 Horrible so deadly that you need to go and get tested to find out if you have it 01:00:39.820 --> 01:00:41.860 And you might have it and you're not even sick 01:00:42.420 --> 01:00:46.440 And they they just made us dependent on the authorities. It was just another 01:00:47.060 --> 01:00:50.020 Really drilling it into your head that you could be terribly 01:00:51.060 --> 01:00:58.940 Diseased you could be a terrible threat to those around you and you have no idea you need to come and get our 01:00:58.940 --> 01:01:06.430 Black box tests and we we the experts they will let you know if you have it or you don't 01:01:06.940 --> 01:01:09.960 total total total dependency 01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:18.880 On strangers, you know, and they're they're tests that you don't understand and uh 01:01:19.550 --> 01:01:24.160 Yeah, that's it's pretty much the ultimate when it comes to treating people like children 01:01:24.720 --> 01:01:29.580 Making us feel completely it's completely out of our hands. We're totally up to them to tell us what's what 01:01:29.580 --> 01:01:34.000 Exactly. Yeah, no amount of observation or detective work or anything like 01:01:34.560 --> 01:01:40.540 They're they're nice to see you a logical fallacy of belief in authority at work. Yeah, exactly 01:01:44.300 --> 01:01:47.520 Yeah, I was just going to say like also 01:01:48.780 --> 01:01:51.120 They these studies some of these studies 01:01:51.820 --> 01:01:55.100 Some of them are a lot more complex than others a lot more intimidating 01:01:56.340 --> 01:01:57.460 and um 01:01:58.140 --> 01:02:04.620 There's a lot of jargon, you know, kind of like with law like they throw around all these different terms with you 01:02:04.620 --> 01:02:09.660 And the trick wording, you know calling something isolation when it's nothing of the sort 01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:14.080 They make them sound so 01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:19.240 Complex and people come away thinking wow these people are geniuses. They 01:02:19.980 --> 01:02:27.180 Oh, there's complex information and all these intricate steps that they're doing and all this incredible technology that they're using, right 01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:33.820 And meanwhile, it's absolutely, you know ludicrous what they're doing that literally if you just explain it in simple words 01:02:33.820 --> 01:02:36.680 Children literally can can see how silly it is 01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:38.560 but yeah, it's 01:02:39.110 --> 01:02:40.880 Really getting people dependent on 01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:47.360 Authority figures and technology and telling you you can't understand something and hopefully we can get through to 01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:54.200 A few more people today that you can understand it. It's not that complicated when you focus on the basic elements 01:02:54.630 --> 01:02:57.440 You can see that they're just making shit up 01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:02.480 There you go. That's a popular phrase now. Um, yeah 01:03:03.640 --> 01:03:07.500 It's interesting that I'm sure there is by now and I just am not aware of it 01:03:07.500 --> 01:03:09.560 but a resource teaching people how to 01:03:10.160 --> 01:03:15.960 Go in and and look at a basic study and look at, you know, certain terminology and where they take you sideways 01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:22.320 This is one of the things I'm really grateful to Garrett Smith about because as he teaches on his live streams 01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:26.400 He's showing the the medical paper. He's showing the research 01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:30.540 He will define words as you go so that you don't you're not tasked 01:03:30.540 --> 01:03:33.520 Because you have to look a word up every time it didn't make sense 01:03:33.520 --> 01:03:35.700 It would be like every 10 seconds or so 01:03:36.380 --> 01:03:40.600 And now it's come to a point where I can myself go and do a PubMed search 01:03:40.600 --> 01:03:45.660 And come up with some usable information not to say like I understand everything 01:03:45.660 --> 01:03:49.680 But I can I can verify certain things that that you know 01:03:49.680 --> 01:03:53.600 I can look up multiple studies and and look at it from a few different angles 01:03:53.600 --> 01:04:00.060 And I know a few key words like when they say signaling they're talking about toxicity in in 01:04:00.540 --> 01:04:04.640 In a cell or an animal or you know like exhibiting bad signs 01:04:04.640 --> 01:04:09.760 So they they use certain words to make it seem like it's not that bad or that's 01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:16.940 You know, yeah, yeah, and the whole peer peer review process. Do you think it's just a matter of 01:04:16.940 --> 01:04:21.220 incredible corruption or is it uh, is it 01:04:21.820 --> 01:04:26.620 What what's going on there? Well, I can just tell you when I worked at 01:04:27.120 --> 01:04:30.520 Where I worked at the hospital was a well-known cancer institute 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:31.880 in toronto 01:04:32.640 --> 01:04:38.660 And you know some of the researchers there were considered quite high up in their field and whatnot and 01:04:38.660 --> 01:04:44.140 I just I can tell you when I first started working there, you know, I had just finished my master's degree 01:04:45.080 --> 01:04:45.560 and 01:04:46.820 --> 01:04:51.440 I was shocked to see well, like my job was to um 01:04:52.040 --> 01:04:55.560 You know I've meet with a research team and they would tell me about their project 01:04:55.560 --> 01:04:59.620 And then they would give me their data. My job was to clean it first off 01:04:59.620 --> 01:05:02.780 Look for things that were missing or didn't make sense 01:05:03.380 --> 01:05:04.440 Get it tidied up 01:05:05.060 --> 01:05:13.200 And to summarize it and then to perform hypothesis tests on it like statistical hypothesis tests not scientific hypothesis tests 01:05:14.100 --> 01:05:14.660 and 01:05:16.300 --> 01:05:21.620 So I was shocked to learn as I was doing that just how 01:05:22.940 --> 01:05:23.900 Not scientific 01:05:24.520 --> 01:05:28.980 The average doctor was thinking and these are doctors at a research a research institution 01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:33.820 And I mean they were taking steps around that time to try to correct this 01:05:33.820 --> 01:05:37.000 They realized they had an issue there and they were trying to get the 01:05:37.540 --> 01:05:41.320 Doctors that were early in their career training so that they would get better more 01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:43.320 Scientifically articulate 01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:48.320 But it was quite shocking to me that I would like over and over again have to explain to somebody like 01:05:48.820 --> 01:05:53.340 You can't draw those conclusions from your your study design because it would just be some 01:05:53.910 --> 01:05:56.740 Observational study. It's not even an experiment let alone a really 01:05:57.380 --> 01:06:02.880 rigorous control randomized experiment, you know, they'd be wanting to draw conclusions about causation 01:06:03.860 --> 01:06:09.920 Oh, you know based on like data, you just can't do that and I would have to explain it over and over again. So 01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:11.340 um 01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:14.920 Well, it seems like you know the education for doctors is 01:06:15.580 --> 01:06:16.180 subpar 01:06:16.180 --> 01:06:21.000 You know, they're not getting educated properly in in various ways. They're just being 01:06:21.820 --> 01:06:27.980 Told things and expected to memorize it and not to do the critical thinking and not to look like 01:06:27.980 --> 01:06:34.180 You know to ask and go looking like well, where's your actual scientific evidence to back that up and 01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:37.120 Yeah, I was really shocked to see so I think there's just 01:06:38.040 --> 01:06:40.180 There's to a large degree. They're just 01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:43.940 naive and they have good intentions and they don't necessarily realize 01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:45.360 um 01:06:46.020 --> 01:06:52.680 And I think there is a lot of that going on and I'm sure among the virologists too a lot of them think what they're doing is 01:06:52.680 --> 01:06:53.800 absolutely fine 01:06:54.680 --> 01:06:55.240 and 01:06:55.240 --> 01:07:01.620 They just haven't really stopped and and thought it through or maybe some of them work in different branches overall 01:07:01.620 --> 01:07:05.080 You know, they're not the ones doing the so-called isolation and sequencing 01:07:05.080 --> 01:07:10.560 They're working downstream from that and they just assumed somebody else did legitimate steps 01:07:10.560 --> 01:07:12.080 And there's a 01:07:12.080 --> 01:07:17.340 Clip that's been shown numerous times for example by in San San Bailey and other people 01:07:17.980 --> 01:07:19.300 showing a well-known 01:07:19.860 --> 01:07:21.940 For all just to forget his name right now 01:07:21.940 --> 01:07:27.880 But he's asked in an interview like how do you isolate a virus and he gets completely, you know tongue tied and 01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:29.780 Doesn't know what to say, right? 01:07:30.580 --> 01:07:33.700 He's meanwhile. He's considered someone quite high up in the field 01:07:34.580 --> 01:07:39.960 Right, right exactly. Yeah, that's uh two things I wanted to mention about memorization as our 01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:42.100 primary form of education, right? 01:07:42.160 --> 01:07:46.400 Here's a body of information you memorize the things we tell you to memorize and then you 01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:49.300 Get your degree and can do whatever you want to do or whatever 01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:56.460 And and I'm really convinced I I did a Beth of fresh air episode last week on uh, it was called remember 01:07:56.980 --> 01:07:59.160 And it was kind of everything memory now 01:07:59.160 --> 01:08:05.180 I have a part two coming because there's so much more I remembered in the process of this related and this 01:08:05.180 --> 01:08:06.800 this act of 01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:08.660 memorization I think 01:08:09.220 --> 01:08:12.560 Cancels our, you know, it's almost like you've got a certain 01:08:13.140 --> 01:08:20.200 bandwidth for memory that might be actually integrated with learning and growing and and 01:08:20.200 --> 01:08:22.620 Bringing bodies of knowledge together 01:08:23.190 --> 01:08:28.160 And making you know connecting the dots what they all they don't want us to do have basic logic 01:08:28.970 --> 01:08:32.200 Uh, and then the memorization it maybe it fills that 01:08:33.140 --> 01:08:34.860 Receptor that we have 01:08:35.470 --> 01:08:37.520 And makes people the dumbest ever 01:08:38.390 --> 01:08:39.100 that yeah 01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:45.000 Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, it's shocking like I I don't remember it being like this 01:08:45.830 --> 01:08:52.340 I don't know if it always was and I just wasn't noticing but I've been shocked in the like in the last five years just seemed like just how 01:08:53.940 --> 01:08:55.820 horribly illogical people have 01:08:56.290 --> 01:08:58.900 Are these days it's it's pretty scary 01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:00.020 um 01:09:00.020 --> 01:09:01.820 Yeah, and it seems like like 01:09:01.820 --> 01:09:06.360 You know with the doctors they're kept super busy from the time they enter medical school 01:09:06.360 --> 01:09:07.940 So they don't have time to go in 01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:14.000 Fat check and they're not encouraged to question doesn't go over very well if you do question and 01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:15.640 sleep deprivation 01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:20.400 Yeah, so many um things that it makes you think like somebody 01:09:21.040 --> 01:09:24.400 higher so to speak um up the chain 01:09:25.340 --> 01:09:31.220 knows like we don't want these people catching on we we need to keep them busy and overwhelmed and 01:09:31.220 --> 01:09:36.200 cram all sorts of um, you know information into their minds and 01:09:36.360 --> 01:09:41.200 And then you know even when people do like I feel really sorry for doctors and 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:46.000 nurses or other people who've invested a lot like I really do because 01:09:47.280 --> 01:09:51.980 You think first of all the amount of money that they spend on to go to school and then they you know 01:09:51.980 --> 01:09:56.080 A lot of them are starting their their careers with massive debt 01:09:57.020 --> 01:09:57.500 and 01:09:58.380 --> 01:10:02.400 They have just a lot invested personally and if they're further in their career, you know 01:10:02.400 --> 01:10:07.280 They status and just all the perks the money and everything and then 01:10:08.180 --> 01:10:09.820 They you know have these 01:10:10.940 --> 01:10:11.500 people 01:10:11.500 --> 01:10:20.540 With no background. No, you know people like me starting to say like no what you guys are doing is completely wrong. I mean 01:10:21.620 --> 01:10:26.940 I'm glad I've never had to go through that myself like, you know, that's I can't even imagine how 01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:30.620 challenging and threatening that would be to people so 01:10:31.260 --> 01:10:34.920 That's a big part of it too. That just keeps everything locked in place 01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.320 Nobody wants to admit that they were wrong over those years 01:10:39.420 --> 01:10:44.900 They were completely wasted time completely wasted tux bears money scared the living hell out of people 01:10:46.260 --> 01:10:49.140 Injected, you know fraudulent tests like the whole 01:10:49.740 --> 01:10:53.320 shebang like especially with what they did in the last five years like 01:10:54.480 --> 01:10:56.840 I'm glad I'm not in there in their shoes 01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:00.520 Yeah, that's a really good perspective to look at it from there's 01:11:01.060 --> 01:11:01.840 that we when the 01:11:02.740 --> 01:11:05.680 That can of worm opens can of worms open 01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:12.680 It's it's like almost no end to the culpability that starts to show up at multiple levels 01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:15.800 And I mean the more you put that off the deeper your 01:11:16.360 --> 01:11:17.840 debt the deeper your 01:11:18.420 --> 01:11:23.400 You know the the price of that is is going to be which and that it might not be an earthly price 01:11:23.400 --> 01:11:29.520 We don't know and and I can't say anything of certainty for that. I was also going to just mention your 01:11:30.020 --> 01:11:34.220 You know, it wasn't just the the educated that were 01:11:35.260 --> 01:11:42.380 Victim to this don't think thing but the whole you know, some people say new cage movement or the whole spiritual side 01:11:42.380 --> 01:11:47.700 That's more where I've come from very grateful. I never took to health coaching. I could have done that 01:11:48.460 --> 01:11:54.640 The cancer survivor would have been a logical next level and I did look into nutrition in all kinds of directions 01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:55.680 but I ended up more 01:11:56.260 --> 01:11:58.460 coming on the side of helping people 01:11:58.460 --> 01:11:59.220 deprogram 01:11:59.860 --> 01:12:06.040 And and then the the sigh up of telling people don't think get out of your head and into your heart 01:12:06.040 --> 01:12:13.040 You know and then hitting 2020 going like, oh, I got a I got a think that my brain is actually 01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:15.200 God gave me this for a reason 01:12:15.870 --> 01:12:20.260 I'm glad you're being that up because like I I went down the whole like 01:12:21.080 --> 01:12:28.360 Obviously, there are non physical parts to our existence, right? But yeah, I think there is a lot of programming 01:12:28.360 --> 01:12:32.900 Well, there's that lucious trust. I think it's called part of the un that 01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:44.520 Pushes a lot of this kind of thinking and yeah, I do think that's been weaponized against us. Um 01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:47.560 I'm not I don't mean there's no no value in 01:12:47.560 --> 01:12:52.280 Exploring that side of life. That's actually I think it's actually really important. It's what 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:59.700 Helped me survive. But yeah, there was like there's no there's no emphasis in that whole 01:13:01.500 --> 01:13:07.760 World whatever whatever you want to call it on logical thinking and fat checking and part of like 01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:12.000 What I experienced was 01:13:12.820 --> 01:13:13.360 starting to 01:13:13.900 --> 01:13:18.240 I I actually used to become very distressed and I'm kind of done with all that stuff now 01:13:18.240 --> 01:13:20.660 I don't mean that I'm done with it like I don't 01:13:20.660 --> 01:13:25.980 Believe that there's a spiritual side to us. I don't mean that at all. But what I mean is 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:30.840 Reading books and listening to what people have to say on those topics 01:13:31.240 --> 01:13:32.800 Like there was so much dogma 01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:35.580 There's a lot of dogma and then I started realizing well 01:13:35.580 --> 01:13:41.760 This person saying this and this person saying that and it like it doesn't fit and I don't know who's right 01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:44.360 How can I fact check these things like I can't and 01:13:45.220 --> 01:13:47.360 Yeah, there's just a lot of that 01:13:47.360 --> 01:13:53.700 Like also like the whole idea too of having a guru and you just let them tell you things and 01:13:54.360 --> 01:14:01.200 Yeah, I know there's a lot of good in that world self development and self awareness like I'm not trying to 01:14:01.200 --> 01:14:02.720 trash all that but 01:14:03.400 --> 01:14:06.200 Yeah, I have thought about that that there's um 01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:08.440 there's that 01:14:09.120 --> 01:14:14.160 It's not good to discourage people to give up their their minds and their ability to think 01:14:14.940 --> 01:14:16.600 That's a dangerous thing to do 01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:24.340 Exactly how convenient to have a population that doesn't think whether whether they came to it from the spiritual side or the academic side or wherever 01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:25.320 so 01:14:26.380 --> 01:14:30.620 Thank you. Chris david. He's all excited to see you here and 01:14:31.360 --> 01:14:33.260 Yeah, yeah, just uh 01:14:33.820 --> 01:14:37.420 Looking at the comments again. Um, I don't know if you're familiar 01:14:37.420 --> 01:14:42.300 Was it gobbles who said if you make a lie make it a big one that uh, the the bigger the lie 01:14:42.300 --> 01:14:47.860 The more easy it is to believe or something like that. Yeah, I don't know who said that but I've heard that many times 01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:54.960 I'll mention too. If you don't mind, um another big piece of evidence that people point to is the um 01:14:55.740 --> 01:14:58.760 The electron microscope images of these 01:14:59.280 --> 01:15:03.020 Particles I'll just mention that really briefly. This is another really easy one to debunk 01:15:03.260 --> 01:15:06.060 Okay, so basically all all they do 01:15:06.820 --> 01:15:10.700 Excuse me. So first of all the first thing to know is with those images 01:15:11.260 --> 01:15:17.180 It's almost always cell culture that they're looking at so the cell line the calcium the chemicals 01:15:17.980 --> 01:15:19.380 and the clinical sample 01:15:20.100 --> 01:15:23.000 Not looking in the bodily fluid almost never I have seen 01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:26.360 One or two studies where they actually looked in bodily fluid 01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:29.540 but almost never and they'll just 01:15:30.200 --> 01:15:34.260 Zoom in on a particle and they put their arrow typically, you know 01:15:34.260 --> 01:15:38.580 You'll see a black arrow pointing at something and they just say you that's the thing 01:15:39.140 --> 01:15:42.840 And we call it the point and the clear method because that's literally all they do 01:15:43.380 --> 01:15:47.940 They never they never purify that thing out even from the cell culture 01:15:48.620 --> 01:15:55.800 And do all the steps that you would need to do to actually sequence it characterize it and do the controlled experiments 01:15:55.800 --> 01:16:03.160 So they just they just literally just point so that's that's a very easy piece of evidence to if you get confronted with those like 01:16:03.160 --> 01:16:11.540 Ask the people like okay, you're pointing at something but where are the studies where that thing was actually separated out 01:16:12.280 --> 01:16:16.820 and shown to have the proteins and the genome that we're told that it has 01:16:16.820 --> 01:16:18.440 Where was it shown to? 01:16:19.440 --> 01:16:25.180 You know invade cells and hijack takeover replicates and make people sick 01:16:25.180 --> 01:16:26.460 Where was it shown to? 01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:29.860 spread to other hosts and 01:16:29.860 --> 01:16:34.380 You know do all those things that he did and then they don't they won't have it 01:16:34.380 --> 01:16:36.440 basically and then 01:16:37.040 --> 01:16:41.120 Even if they did by some miracle, but I am confident nobody has that 01:16:41.120 --> 01:16:47.220 You still need to show that it's in the people like if you're claiming that that thing has been circulating in the population 01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:52.120 And you still don't have a study where you actually found that thing in the people which they say they can't do 01:16:52.880 --> 01:16:54.820 You know what I mean you can't 01:16:55.180 --> 01:16:59.100 Purify because you can have other things that look similar in those 01:16:59.740 --> 01:17:04.820 Electro microscope images, but you don't know does it have the genome and the proteins that they're saying 01:17:05.280 --> 01:17:09.000 So you there's no getting around it like you have to find this 01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:12.740 these supposed things in in the actual people and 01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:20.420 They just they can't do it so right right. Yeah, amazing. They don't even use human tissue for the most part what you're saying 01:17:20.420 --> 01:17:21.300 That's like wow 01:17:21.300 --> 01:17:21.980 Um 01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:25.560 Contagion itself is really tricky as a subject 01:17:26.170 --> 01:17:30.780 Because when you get into the terrain model, you do have actually seem to have to come back 01:17:31.250 --> 01:17:37.840 To some form, you know, it's it's not what they're saying that the the uh the particle jumped from 01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:43.880 Your nose to the mouth of the person that's less than six feet away from you 01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:48.540 And you know this fantastical story. This is the part I could no one could make sense to me 01:17:48.540 --> 01:17:53.200 I've got all kinds of medical professionals in my family and I'm like, how did they jump is it alive? 01:17:53.460 --> 01:17:55.140 Does it have a life force of its own? 01:17:55.580 --> 01:18:01.400 What is this jumping process and then the brother? Oh, I know they do somehow. I'll go, you know, get back 01:18:01.400 --> 01:18:02.380 I never did 01:18:03.360 --> 01:18:06.820 So but there but there is something so I spent a day with my son 01:18:06.820 --> 01:18:11.360 A while back and he was detoxing and the next thing, you know in a couple of days 01:18:11.360 --> 01:18:17.440 I'm detoxing too and I understand that it wasn't a you know a viral transmission 01:18:17.440 --> 01:18:19.500 But there was some kind of transmission 01:18:20.120 --> 01:18:21.680 Something was happening there 01:18:22.320 --> 01:18:28.240 I'll just I'll give you my take on this. So first I always go back to okay. We've been told 01:18:29.020 --> 01:18:32.500 All our lives that being around someone who has a cold or flu 01:18:33.120 --> 01:18:37.000 That is a you know a risk to the healthy people around them 01:18:37.620 --> 01:18:41.580 And yet when you go to them and you and I've been challenging them on this too 01:18:41.580 --> 01:18:44.140 And others have done a lot of work on the contagion part 01:18:44.860 --> 01:18:50.120 They never they can never actually show a scientific study that demonstrates this effect of 01:18:50.120 --> 01:18:55.660 Sick people causing you know the presence of sick people causing healthy people to get sick 01:18:56.440 --> 01:19:00.800 So that's number one and then there's experiments where 01:19:01.440 --> 01:19:05.600 Well, I'm sure you know daniel right to sort a whole book about can you catch a cold? 01:19:05.900 --> 01:19:13.400 And he had reviewed over 200 studies on that topic and he found none of them had any scientific evidence that 01:19:14.140 --> 01:19:17.840 People with colds actually make healthy people get colds as well 01:19:18.420 --> 01:19:25.300 And then there's one very famous study that we talk about a lot, which is the rosenow study from 01:19:26.100 --> 01:19:29.620 1918 1919 and this is the study where 01:19:31.220 --> 01:19:33.640 They had uh, what was it? 01:19:34.620 --> 01:19:36.140 prisoners and they 01:19:36.860 --> 01:19:41.860 It was during the time of this Spanish flu, which they said was a highly contagious illness 01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:43.540 And they had 10 01:19:44.260 --> 01:19:47.680 People who were sick and they had volunteers 01:19:48.300 --> 01:19:53.380 And they tried it's a very easy study to read that's on my website. People can find it 01:19:54.220 --> 01:19:57.140 rosenow is the name r-o-s-e-a-u 01:19:58.280 --> 01:20:03.000 And other people have written articles about this study too a few people have um 01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:04.360 and 01:20:05.020 --> 01:20:05.620 they 01:20:06.260 --> 01:20:11.100 But they would try something where the healthy people were near the sick people 01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:14.520 Had them cough in their face things like that 01:20:15.140 --> 01:20:19.910 And another healthy people would get sick and it was if I remember it was like, uh 01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:23.240 fairly young male prisoners 01:20:23.850 --> 01:20:29.700 Which apparently are the ones that were said to have the Spanish flu like they're the the demographic that 01:20:29.700 --> 01:20:31.340 supposedly had it the most 01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:32.540 and 01:20:32.540 --> 01:20:35.360 So then they would try something else 01:20:35.360 --> 01:20:40.040 They would try another way and they end up doing all kinds of things that would these days wouldn't happen 01:20:40.040 --> 01:20:42.280 Because they would say that's unethical. We can't do that 01:20:42.280 --> 01:20:47.920 So they would actually take bodily fluid from the sick people and put it straight into the healthy people 01:20:48.580 --> 01:20:54.420 They had the healthy people go one at a time go and sit like five minutes 01:20:55.300 --> 01:20:57.560 Letting the sick person cough in their face 01:20:57.560 --> 01:20:59.140 Do all kinds of things 01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:02.700 And then go on to the next sick person 10 of them 01:21:03.480 --> 01:21:08.500 Right and none of the volunteer none of the healthy people got sick after spending time with 10 different people 01:21:08.500 --> 01:21:11.500 Purposely trying to make them sick they couldn't do it 01:21:12.020 --> 01:21:12.500 so 01:21:13.540 --> 01:21:14.500 yeah, so 01:21:15.340 --> 01:21:19.200 There isn't any scientific evidence and a study like that 01:21:19.200 --> 01:21:22.660 It wasn't controlled but it doesn't matter because the the thing with controls is 01:21:23.220 --> 01:21:28.260 It's when you do get an effective interest you want to be able to weed out other possible explanations 01:21:29.060 --> 01:21:31.880 But in those studies, they couldn't they couldn't get the effect anyway 01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:36.760 So it doesn't matter if there were controls or not like you didn't succeed in making anyone sick 01:21:37.460 --> 01:21:38.860 But then we all know like 01:21:39.360 --> 01:21:41.540 We do like you know 01:21:41.540 --> 01:21:47.560 Certain people walk in the room and you just don't feel that great or someone yawns and you start yawning or 01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:54.040 You hear stories of women's periods syncing up all kinds of things where it seems like the presence is affecting others. So 01:21:55.020 --> 01:22:01.680 Yeah, I don't I don't know if there's like maybe there's an element where it's someone that you're closer to and you're kind of more connected to them 01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:03.000 to begin with 01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:05.460 or situations where 01:22:07.060 --> 01:22:09.620 Well, it seems like the mind is very powerful too 01:22:09.620 --> 01:22:14.360 So if you're someone who has a strong belief that being around sick people will make you sick 01:22:14.360 --> 01:22:16.820 You're probably like more likely to get sick 01:22:16.820 --> 01:22:22.440 So yeah, I'm not claiming to have all the answers and it's something, you know of interest 01:22:23.040 --> 01:22:28.620 But like you're saying they they can't actually show that there's this particle that goes from place to place 01:22:28.620 --> 01:22:34.900 And gets passed around in the ways that they say it does and and that they claim to test us for and that they claim to 01:22:36.440 --> 01:22:40.280 Is insert things into our arms to protect us from them 01:22:40.820 --> 01:22:43.880 Definitely don't have anything to back up that whole narrative 01:22:44.420 --> 01:22:49.520 No, exactly one of the big clues for me was that the the word itself virus means poison 01:22:50.070 --> 01:22:55.780 I just looked it up one day early on and I went oh, okay, and and and then I'll hazard to get 01:22:56.370 --> 01:23:01.260 Took a claim to say poison is contagious. It is easy to spread poison 01:23:01.260 --> 01:23:08.920 And you know someone that's say really toxic so toxic that you can smell on their skin on their breath 01:23:09.660 --> 01:23:13.120 In their vibe, you know, just being super negative 01:23:13.700 --> 01:23:16.020 There is a there is a transmission 01:23:16.020 --> 01:23:20.580 I'm not going to go into a sauna with somebody who has toast on garlic because it's poisonous 01:23:21.100 --> 01:23:25.120 That sulfur is also poisoning me. Some people think garlic is it's healthy. It's not 01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:31.080 And you know, so there there are some cues. I like somebody said energetic transmission 01:23:31.260 --> 01:23:33.400 Say say this time of year 01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:40.740 It's very very common in Canada and we you you go around and and there's a good number of people who've been detoxing 01:23:40.740 --> 01:23:42.760 Like that's just it's just it is a normal thing 01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:46.000 That's why they can take advantage of us and plantemic us in the first place 01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:51.080 Because there are these seasonal kind of detox. Well, you know Garrett would say 01:23:51.080 --> 01:23:57.840 Oh, your body sees that the long winter is coming and it's not going to be ideal to detox detox now 01:23:58.420 --> 01:24:05.380 Get get some of that stuff out of the way. It'll prepare you to hunker down for the winter and and so it's just a 01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:09.040 It's just a natural thing and and then yeah, the 01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:15.540 The spreading of poison that's very easy to do spread in the sky put it in like you said the water 01:24:16.160 --> 01:24:16.520 Yeah 01:24:17.460 --> 01:24:23.800 Sorry, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and then it can look like a contagious event because people in that area start getting sick at the same time 01:24:24.320 --> 01:24:24.780 and 01:24:24.780 --> 01:24:27.380 And I mean even if they're 01:24:28.060 --> 01:24:31.500 Like the thing with this supposed germs their whole story is 01:24:32.140 --> 01:24:35.660 It's especially scary. It's kind of unique type of poison 01:24:36.300 --> 01:24:43.440 Because they say that it replicates right and and bacteria do replicate, but they haven't been shown to cause illness 01:24:44.140 --> 01:24:50.260 But so it's like if you if you have a toxin in you and you're spreading it to others 01:24:51.240 --> 01:24:54.980 Through intimate contact or whatever means in this honor. What have you? 01:24:55.700 --> 01:24:58.880 At least in that situation that thing if nobody's 01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:02.460 Saying that that a poison is going to get inside of you and replicate 01:25:02.460 --> 01:25:06.460 And then you get more of it and then you can spread it and it just keeps growing and growing and growing 01:25:06.940 --> 01:25:09.880 Um, at least with poison like you're talking about a 01:25:10.320 --> 01:25:12.320 A finite amount of something 01:25:12.320 --> 01:25:16.540 So then if you do spread some to other well, okay, some will still be in you 01:25:16.540 --> 01:25:21.160 Or go somewhere else. So it's it's a different sort of situation 01:25:21.740 --> 01:25:25.140 Absolutely, but yeah, so it's giving the poison 01:25:26.040 --> 01:25:30.700 Yeah, oh, yeah, sorry the word. Yeah, so, um 01:25:31.440 --> 01:25:32.040 I know 01:25:32.040 --> 01:25:39.860 Other people like dr. Stefan Lanka and the Baileys and mic stone and tom and andy 01:25:39.860 --> 01:25:42.800 Um, tom cown and andy kaufman they can 01:25:43.320 --> 01:25:47.940 Talk and talk about the history of virology. I I don't have a good memory for that kind of stuff 01:25:47.940 --> 01:25:51.020 So I tend to stay away from it but apparently yeah over the 01:25:51.460 --> 01:25:56.440 Over the years through the history of virology that the virologist had different ideas about what uh 01:25:56.440 --> 01:26:00.880 What they were calling the virus. So they used to at one stage. They thought it was a protein 01:26:01.520 --> 01:26:06.220 And eventually they came onto this idea that there's genetic, you know genome of the 01:26:07.420 --> 01:26:10.280 Shell around it and then they say some of them have an envelope 01:26:10.280 --> 01:26:15.700 Um, but at one point initially in in latin it means poison 01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:17.160 and 01:26:18.340 --> 01:26:19.300 yeah, so 01:26:20.100 --> 01:26:23.300 That makes sense. Like yeah, we get poisoned and we 01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:24.580 We get sick 01:26:25.060 --> 01:26:29.980 We need to detox the poison. It's going to come out and it's going to look like sickness, but it's 01:26:29.980 --> 01:26:31.560 Actually the cure 01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:37.180 Right. Yeah. Yeah, let's kill the cure at all costs. That's the next level 01:26:37.180 --> 01:26:41.140 Let's make sure that poison doesn't make it make its way out of people's 01:26:41.820 --> 01:26:44.100 Body and it can look like sorcery. Absolutely 01:26:45.400 --> 01:26:47.320 There was hey Jen. I 01:26:47.980 --> 01:26:53.400 And paul and mike new and all kinds of good people are here Jen. You said something earlier. I wanted to go back to 01:26:53.400 --> 01:26:54.100 I think that 01:26:54.580 --> 01:26:57.080 We could talk about here 01:26:58.300 --> 01:26:59.260 Yeah, okay 01:26:59.980 --> 01:27:00.340 Um 01:27:04.140 --> 01:27:09.980 Yeah, so this is this is what I would call a natural fallacy that if it's found in nature 01:27:09.980 --> 01:27:12.460 Say all of the poisons that are found in nature 01:27:12.460 --> 01:27:19.940 This by the same theory a virus is found in nature, right? Like in the the bugs or then the 01:27:20.200 --> 01:27:23.100 Uh, mosquitoes or whatever wherever they come from 01:27:23.100 --> 01:27:29.880 Um bats, I guess is the word I was looking for and and so yeah, it's very true in this case 01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:33.780 Fluoride does occur in nature, right? It's it's it's an element 01:27:33.780 --> 01:27:38.280 But but because it's natural doesn't make it good for you. No 01:27:38.280 --> 01:27:40.380 Right. Yeah, it's a nice draw to that 01:27:40.900 --> 01:27:45.120 That's one of the things with the public health establishment when they're putting out their little bits of 01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:49.420 Propaganda, it's one of the things they almost always well very often 01:27:49.420 --> 01:27:52.940 We'll say right off the bat fluoride is a natural occurring mineral, right? 01:27:53.100 --> 01:27:57.640 Well, first of all, what they don't tell you is the naturally occurring minerals calcium fluoride 01:27:57.640 --> 01:27:59.680 And that's not what they're putting in the drinking water 01:27:59.680 --> 01:28:04.700 They're putting in acid that they collect from the smokestacks of the phosphate fertilizer industry 01:28:05.160 --> 01:28:08.600 And there's you can find news reports if you go to youtube and put in 01:28:09.160 --> 01:28:09.600 um 01:28:10.140 --> 01:28:17.640 fluoride acid spilled or hydrofluorosalicylic acid is one of the names for the chemical it's a well done 01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:21.440 You might just put hfsa or but or fluoride spill 01:28:21.910 --> 01:28:24.940 I know there was one in florida this stuff is so toxic 01:28:24.940 --> 01:28:28.840 It literally eats through the parking lot like the people have to come in their hazmat 01:28:29.660 --> 01:28:36.740 Suits and it's eating through the parking lot. It's used in industry all sorts of applications for etching glass and 01:28:37.370 --> 01:28:42.500 You know all kinds of things. It's known to be really hard on the equipment at the water treatment plants 01:28:42.500 --> 01:28:44.700 Um, the workers don't like 01:28:45.360 --> 01:28:49.000 Using it because you know, it's a very dangerous substance 01:28:49.700 --> 01:28:54.140 and um, I don't know if you would remember like I forget what year it was but 01:28:54.840 --> 01:28:57.820 Maybe roughly 10 years or so ago give or take 01:28:58.420 --> 01:29:02.940 There was a really bad accident. Uh, well, I don't know if you would have heard about it because you're not in 01:29:02.940 --> 01:29:03.580 Ontario, but 01:29:04.080 --> 01:29:08.860 It was a really bad accident on the highway 401 in Ontario in the wintertime near Kingston 01:29:09.420 --> 01:29:15.740 And what happened was there was a big pile up of vehicles and there was a tractor trailer 01:29:16.440 --> 01:29:19.880 carrying this chemical and it was a 01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:22.180 The driver ended up dying 01:29:22.860 --> 01:29:23.200 because 01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:27.260 The collision this chemical went on him 01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:32.720 He died a bunch of first responders were hurt. It was a big environmental 01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:38.020 they needed a big, you know a proper environmental cleanup like it was a big big deal and 01:29:39.080 --> 01:29:44.420 Yeah, that was so that was another issue too with the water fluoridation even like transporting this stuff in our roads 01:29:44.420 --> 01:29:49.920 And the funny thing was I know i'm going off topic. You're sorry. We'll get back in a minute, but um 01:29:50.540 --> 01:29:55.960 Like just going back to that what we're talking about earlier about how you can show them this information and it just 01:29:56.460 --> 01:29:58.160 They like the authorities. They don't care 01:29:59.420 --> 01:30:06.000 We there had been a meeting at the region appeal and myself and other people delegated and um 01:30:07.440 --> 01:30:12.500 One gentleman, thomas, I forget his last name. He had brought msds sheets the 01:30:15.160 --> 01:30:17.220 material data safety sheets 01:30:17.740 --> 01:30:20.640 Um for these chemicals and he's reading it off 01:30:21.280 --> 01:30:27.220 And telling them all the alarming things that it says well, they're laughing and like Bonnie Cromby who was the mayor of mississauga 01:30:27.220 --> 01:30:31.760 Like she was snickering. They're like, oh, you're so ridiculous like that's 01:30:32.160 --> 01:30:38.440 Um for the people handling it you put it in the drinking water and it's diluted, you know, it's parts per million and 01:30:39.400 --> 01:30:40.180 you know 01:30:41.020 --> 01:30:42.240 and he was 01:30:43.080 --> 01:30:48.480 Saying like this is uh, you know, we had been saying it's a hazard on the roads as well. It's just a hazard period 01:30:49.580 --> 01:30:50.060 and 01:30:50.660 --> 01:30:54.000 Literally within a day or two maybe three maximum 01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:59.220 I think it was a day or two later that accident on the 401 happened and they were being very vague 01:30:59.220 --> 01:31:03.000 Some kind of fluorid related chemical and I started tweeting to the media 01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:07.900 Seeing that sounds like hydrofluorosalus. Sure enough. It was hydrofluorosalistic acid 01:31:08.630 --> 01:31:14.500 From the from the supplier that supplied the region appeal might very well have been headed for my community 01:31:14.500 --> 01:31:17.940 So they could dump this crap in the drinking water. Oh, yeah, so 01:31:18.550 --> 01:31:21.300 Yeah, so that's what they actually put in the drinking water 01:31:21.300 --> 01:31:26.280 It's contaminated with arsenic led all sorts of other things radio nuclides. What have you 01:31:27.400 --> 01:31:33.820 And then uh, they say that it breaks down in the water, but they don't have any experiments to actually show that 01:31:34.500 --> 01:31:35.920 um, when they 01:31:36.580 --> 01:31:41.900 Sorry, it's almost impossible to remove from water every every filter process 01:31:42.420 --> 01:31:50.100 Work will take, you know, might take everything else out, but not before you have to distill or reverse osmosis 01:31:50.100 --> 01:31:53.720 Yeah, or get really expensive filters, special filters 01:31:54.540 --> 01:31:55.180 um 01:31:55.870 --> 01:31:59.120 But, um, sorry lost my, um 01:31:59.660 --> 01:32:05.220 Train of thought, but yeah, they'll say that it's natural. Well, that's not what they're putting in the drinking water number one and number two 01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:08.300 like aluminum is they'll say 01:32:09.180 --> 01:32:15.320 Fluoride is naturally occurring mineral. It's I think it's the 13th most abundant mineral in the earth's crust 01:32:16.160 --> 01:32:20.590 I think that's I think it's 13th if I remember correctly. Well, if I'm 01:32:21.330 --> 01:32:24.730 Aluminum is much more abundant. It's much higher up that list 01:32:24.730 --> 01:32:29.210 Does that mean aluminum safe and we can put that in the drinking water? Like obviously not, right? 01:32:29.850 --> 01:32:31.310 Or natural 01:32:33.090 --> 01:32:38.290 Exactly another fallacy saying, oh, there's a lot of it therefore. It's good for you, but no 01:32:38.290 --> 01:32:42.530 Right, this is just we live in poison world to or as I can tell 01:32:43.270 --> 01:32:49.330 So yeah, yeah, really interesting. Uh, yep poisoned a poison this poison is is a poison 01:32:49.330 --> 01:32:53.450 That sometimes people also turn to a fallacy. This is really off topic around health 01:32:53.450 --> 01:32:57.030 And they'll say, oh, well, it's a poison for you and it's not a poison for me 01:32:57.030 --> 01:33:02.990 And this this is absolutely garbage. Yeah. Yeah, the poison may be uh dealt with differently in your body 01:33:02.990 --> 01:33:06.690 You might be at a different level of toxification or health of your liver 01:33:07.330 --> 01:33:11.990 And you're going to see different things and and there's other factors how you're suppressing your own 01:33:12.530 --> 01:33:18.650 Detox processes are very very common with poison. By the way, that's exactly what what suppresses the detox 01:33:19.330 --> 01:33:22.210 Which makes it even amazing that people still get sick 01:33:23.210 --> 01:33:26.930 Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter the dose 01:33:26.930 --> 01:33:32.030 They always say oh, it's dose the dose makes the poisons like no no 01:33:32.030 --> 01:33:37.870 That I run into this with a number of compounds and it and it's working both ways for example copper 01:33:38.370 --> 01:33:43.730 Is something that has been touted as a natural health, you know necessary nutrient 01:33:43.730 --> 01:33:47.310 It's like no it shows up. It's abundant because 01:33:48.010 --> 01:33:54.830 We are are inundated with it. Oh, wow water copper pipes iud's 01:33:54.830 --> 01:33:56.510 Never mind copper supplements 01:33:56.510 --> 01:34:01.850 Most of the foods that are propagated as out the ones we should eat are very high copper 01:34:01.850 --> 01:34:05.390 I jumped out on copper anyone who's got a chocolate 01:34:05.390 --> 01:34:08.990 Addiction is is taking in massive amounts of copper 01:34:09.590 --> 01:34:10.650 Along with their caffeine 01:34:11.390 --> 01:34:14.870 You know and and it's addictive poisons are addictive 01:34:14.870 --> 01:34:19.950 This is another major factor that people don't understand when it comes to this like virus equals poison 01:34:19.950 --> 01:34:24.290 We actually get addicted to that what what is poisoning us 01:34:24.950 --> 01:34:32.230 And they're yeah, almost always stimulants like, you know caffeine is an insecticide nicotine is an insecticide 01:34:32.870 --> 01:34:38.950 And so they've managed to sell us the garbage really right when you're talking about they've sold us aluminum 01:34:38.950 --> 01:34:42.470 That's or is it salt that came from aluminum? 01:34:43.510 --> 01:34:50.370 Smelting that they made food product out of there was at least some level of it at some 01:34:51.150 --> 01:34:53.870 Not sure sorry. Yeah, and now there's so many different salts 01:34:53.870 --> 01:34:56.930 So it might have just been the you know table table stuff 01:34:56.930 --> 01:35:01.870 But but yeah, they managed to sell us their garbage industries don't want to waste 01:35:02.650 --> 01:35:08.410 It's costly to to deal with things properly. So oh, let's put it in the water and 01:35:08.410 --> 01:35:15.830 Food there's there's a memo from the EPA. It's on my website. Um, I don't know who originally got a hold of it 01:35:15.830 --> 01:35:16.850 it's from 01:35:16.850 --> 01:35:22.190 the director somebody high up at the EPA years ago and they're saying to 01:35:23.010 --> 01:35:27.050 I don't know somebody else at the CDC or somewhere and they're like, yeah 01:35:28.310 --> 01:35:32.990 Hydrofluorosalic acid this it's a huge problem for the industry to get rid of 01:35:33.550 --> 01:35:36.650 Well, they first they had to start collecting it in the smokestacks 01:35:37.280 --> 01:35:41.190 Of the phosphate fertilizer industry because if it went out into the environment 01:35:41.190 --> 01:35:44.350 It was hurting the crops and the animals and whatnot, right? 01:35:44.870 --> 01:35:50.190 So they they were regulated and told you have to collect it. They have something called scrubbers that collects it 01:35:51.670 --> 01:35:52.670 um and 01:35:53.750 --> 01:35:56.370 This stuff like I said, it'll eat through a parking lot 01:35:56.370 --> 01:36:02.750 So they need special containers and it's like a cop an expense for the industry to deal with this stuff 01:36:03.790 --> 01:36:05.010 and so there's a 01:36:07.030 --> 01:36:11.550 Memo from someone high up at the EPA saying, yeah, you know, this is a great solution 01:36:11.550 --> 01:36:15.730 We had this problem of how to get rid of this hydrofluorosalic acid 01:36:16.410 --> 01:36:19.970 And now we can just put it in people's drinking water and that solves the problem 01:36:20.590 --> 01:36:21.450 like literally 01:36:22.130 --> 01:36:26.770 And the communities pay for it instead of them the industry having to pay to get rid of it 01:36:26.770 --> 01:36:28.010 We pay them to 01:36:28.590 --> 01:36:30.250 Take this stuff off their hands 01:36:30.890 --> 01:36:32.730 Exactly we buy the poison 01:36:33.530 --> 01:36:35.130 To poison ourselves with yeah 01:36:36.690 --> 01:36:37.890 Yeah madness 01:36:39.250 --> 01:36:43.950 So I would love to with a time that remains turned towards 01:36:45.150 --> 01:36:52.730 You know behind the scenes what is going on for you? What what has it been like to to be the 01:36:53.530 --> 01:36:58.250 How did you phrase it earlier? I I always call myself these days an outlier among outliers 01:36:58.250 --> 01:37:02.230 And you you seem to reflect that what was the word that you used for it? 01:37:02.290 --> 01:37:04.910 I can't remember well the fringe of the fringe of the fringe. Yeah 01:37:05.630 --> 01:37:12.290 Yeah, exactly. And and so what's that been like for you to say to come out before there was any support 01:37:12.290 --> 01:37:15.290 Before you had connected with the likes of Andy Kaufman and 01:37:15.950 --> 01:37:19.210 Oh, yeah, that was a very strange it's still very strange for me 01:37:19.210 --> 01:37:23.250 Like I am yeah just on a personal level because I was always very shy 01:37:23.250 --> 01:37:28.090 and when I first did an interview like I was so terrified like 01:37:28.610 --> 01:37:33.350 I still don't look forward to it. It's not my I was never outgoing and I was always camera shy 01:37:33.350 --> 01:37:35.690 So it was like a huge thing 01:37:36.470 --> 01:37:41.750 Um, and it still seems very strange to me that anyone wants to hear what anything I have to say about anything 01:37:41.750 --> 01:37:44.790 I never thought I'd be in that situation. Um 01:37:45.290 --> 01:37:50.290 But I always say, you know, it's it's a reflection of just how ridiculous for all she is that just 01:37:50.970 --> 01:37:54.150 Anybody could come across this information and see 01:37:54.710 --> 01:37:56.930 How ridiculous it is? Um 01:37:57.570 --> 01:38:01.130 But yeah, it's been uh, I mean, it's just been a huge 01:38:02.310 --> 01:38:06.650 I mean so many things of the last five years, you know, uh 01:38:07.990 --> 01:38:13.210 We've all learned a lot. I'm sure of the last five years about government in general and 01:38:14.250 --> 01:38:18.370 All these various rabbit holes. So yeah, it's been um 01:38:18.370 --> 01:38:23.070 It's kind of something where I struggle like I would I would part of me would like to just walk away from it 01:38:23.070 --> 01:38:25.650 All and like the hell is this? I got to get it on with my life 01:38:25.650 --> 01:38:30.030 But then when you when you when you've done so much and you have this evidence and I know 01:38:30.630 --> 01:38:34.230 I'm the one that can speak the best about the fo is because I'm the one that 01:38:34.930 --> 01:38:37.330 collected like did a lot of them myself and then 01:38:38.210 --> 01:38:40.890 Um collected them all put them on my website. So 01:38:42.110 --> 01:38:48.170 Yeah, I could feel like I have to keep going and yeah, it's just uh, it's kind of a weird situation to be in 01:38:49.170 --> 01:38:55.490 It has the ring of sacred purpose, you know, it it's usually like that where god tells you to do something and you're like, really? 01:38:56.090 --> 01:38:57.990 Are you kidding me? I have to do that 01:38:58.570 --> 01:39:02.730 Yeah, and I'm compelled and I won't be able to sleep at night or live with myself if I don't 01:39:02.730 --> 01:39:06.190 Yeah, that's what it is. You know, it's funny. I mean 01:39:07.130 --> 01:39:07.570 years 01:39:08.170 --> 01:39:15.610 Uh a few years before it all all that got started. I I was at um a spiritual center in in a friend event 01:39:16.170 --> 01:39:20.010 And we were in a sitting in a circle pretty large group of people 01:39:20.570 --> 01:39:25.870 And there was a lady who was the guest and she was leading us through a meditation and I had a good friend beside me 01:39:26.790 --> 01:39:27.270 and 01:39:27.830 --> 01:39:31.010 during this meditation I had this image of like this, um 01:39:31.650 --> 01:39:35.270 very erect, uh, you know, like image of a certain type of 01:39:35.270 --> 01:39:36.750 native man very 01:39:37.510 --> 01:39:41.650 Stand very very straight and very serious looking guy like 01:39:42.530 --> 01:39:49.270 Just very serious dude and very on point and straight and 01:39:50.190 --> 01:39:57.210 In the vision he put something on my shoulders and it was uh, it was very strange because it was like, um 01:39:58.270 --> 01:40:05.910 Uh a poll well the way I what it was to me was, you know, the you know, the Ikea curtain rods those black curtain rods 01:40:05.910 --> 01:40:07.370 And they're about that big around 01:40:08.170 --> 01:40:13.190 And it was like that and it was like and then my friend when the meditation was over 01:40:13.790 --> 01:40:19.090 She said she had seen the same man and that he was there for me, but she didn't see the part about the poll 01:40:19.650 --> 01:40:21.090 the curtain brought on my shoulder 01:40:22.050 --> 01:40:28.950 And um, it was funny because it was like I puzzled over that for a long time and it felt like a responsibility on my shoulders 01:40:29.470 --> 01:40:32.410 Yeah, but at the same time it was lightweight. It wasn't really heavy 01:40:32.970 --> 01:40:35.590 So it was interesting. I always kind of stayed in my mind that 01:40:37.010 --> 01:40:41.150 There's going to be something that I'm going to have to do and it's going to be hard, but it's not 01:40:41.730 --> 01:40:42.270 too heavy 01:40:42.850 --> 01:40:43.730 but yeah 01:40:44.450 --> 01:40:47.950 yeah, interesting that I pulled on the wizard of us 01:40:48.730 --> 01:40:53.210 metaphor for the title of the the stream pulling back the wizards curtain and 01:40:53.810 --> 01:41:00.030 And you see I was just thinking about that metaphor of being the one who goes to pull back the curtain and how 01:41:00.730 --> 01:41:06.770 Terrifying that that can be when you're you know, you're coming up against what you can only imagine 01:41:07.460 --> 01:41:08.870 is the beast or 01:41:09.460 --> 01:41:14.650 And and then and then pulling it back and going like oh not nobody almost nobody in there 01:41:14.650 --> 01:41:18.870 Yeah, right. Nothing going on here. That's literally what it yeah 01:41:19.450 --> 01:41:22.090 But I think because of the the fluoride stuff like 01:41:22.860 --> 01:41:26.470 one thing that happened to me that I think had a big influence on me was um 01:41:27.070 --> 01:41:28.930 Before the hoax began 01:41:28.930 --> 01:41:33.650 I was living in an apartment and I happened to be right across the street from 01:41:34.770 --> 01:41:35.530 city hall 01:41:36.290 --> 01:41:41.270 Like they were literally right across so you know in our apartment. You only have windows on one side of your home 01:41:41.850 --> 01:41:48.130 There's only one direction you can look and all I saw every day for 10 years straight was city hall right in my face 01:41:48.130 --> 01:41:52.230 And I was on a a bluve of plaza. It was a nice apartment. It was a two level apartment 01:41:52.230 --> 01:41:56.110 But it was above a plaza. So there was no yard. It was just 01:41:56.470 --> 01:41:57.970 our building the sidewalk 01:41:58.550 --> 01:41:59.050 the narrow 01:41:59.610 --> 01:42:05.310 One lane each way street and city hall like really close. I could almost throw a rock across the street 01:42:05.310 --> 01:42:07.630 And that's what I looked at for 10 years and during that time 01:42:07.630 --> 01:42:10.410 I knew that they were doing the water fluoridation and I was obsessed 01:42:10.890 --> 01:42:17.530 And I just got like I'm gonna bring you fuckers down one way or another like that was how I how I felt like 01:42:18.930 --> 01:42:22.490 Somehow one way or another I'm gonna get you guys not to hurt them 01:42:22.490 --> 01:42:28.810 But I mean to expose them and I felt like that had a big that was a big part where yeah, I just became this 01:42:29.730 --> 01:42:32.930 Mission like I'm somehow I'm gonna get you guys 01:42:33.790 --> 01:42:37.730 Right, right. Oh fascinating. Yeah, I've been trying to read the archetypes around it 01:42:38.770 --> 01:42:39.930 and it's um 01:42:40.590 --> 01:42:46.110 Some when you say I'm gonna get those guys. What would that outcome be? What would what would it? 01:42:46.490 --> 01:42:47.310 What would how would it look? 01:42:47.310 --> 01:42:49.510 It would it's too 01:42:50.090 --> 01:42:52.430 I never want to hurt anybody like it's not about 01:42:52.970 --> 01:42:57.330 And I'm such a softy like I probably wouldn't personally wouldn't be able to put someone in jail 01:42:57.330 --> 01:43:02.650 Like I I wouldn't want to be that person like other people have to make those calls as to what 01:43:02.650 --> 01:43:05.630 Is done, but it was in terms of like 01:43:06.790 --> 01:43:10.970 destroying what they're doing what they're getting away with exposing it and 01:43:11.550 --> 01:43:15.570 Bringing it to an end. I mean, I don't know that if it's going to come to an end in our lifetime 01:43:15.570 --> 01:43:17.830 but I certainly hope so and 01:43:18.310 --> 01:43:20.550 You know do what I can to help bring it about 01:43:21.230 --> 01:43:24.870 I mean, you've been incredibly influential in in 01:43:25.790 --> 01:43:29.570 My life and then the lives of people that that I 01:43:29.570 --> 01:43:34.410 touch and uh, you know, there's the ripple effect and aleck was recently sharing 01:43:34.990 --> 01:43:40.050 Some articles that ended up was one of those even yours in in the uh, 01:43:40.050 --> 01:43:43.270 Chiropractic magazine, which is yeah mainstream 01:43:43.270 --> 01:43:50.430 Yeah, these days, right and you know every person that stops being afraid of some fictitious 01:43:51.170 --> 01:43:55.910 scenario of disease and and turns the tables to oh, how am I responsible? 01:43:56.630 --> 01:43:57.930 How can I respond? 01:43:58.890 --> 01:44:00.790 to to this and uh 01:44:00.790 --> 01:44:06.810 And not carry the weight of all of the the worry that so-and-so is going to kill you like my poor sister every time 01:44:06.810 --> 01:44:09.110 We're kids at basic. I'm like, oh everybody get away 01:44:10.470 --> 01:44:14.470 And uh, just the frame of mind itself is toxic 01:44:15.070 --> 01:44:17.570 That we are a danger to each other and of course 01:44:18.130 --> 01:44:22.110 Isolation is a massive massive part of the strategy to keep us from really 01:44:22.690 --> 01:44:29.710 Connecting and talking to each other. So it's you know, your work has had a very profound effect and maybe we won't see the 01:44:30.570 --> 01:44:34.510 Um, the full fruition of it in this exact lifetime 01:44:34.510 --> 01:44:38.950 But you can't put this cat back back in the bag. No, no, there's no way 01:44:38.950 --> 01:44:41.830 No, I feel like in a way. I was just lucky like I 01:44:42.330 --> 01:44:49.190 I stumbled across Andy's information and he explained it so clearly and then I just I knew about I had done some freedom of information 01:44:49.190 --> 01:44:52.990 Already, so I just thought well, I know what I'm going to do. Mr 01:44:53.770 --> 01:44:56.870 Challenging them. So I just kind of got lucky in that regard 01:44:57.470 --> 01:45:02.230 So I'm grateful for that that I had the opportunity to do something that actually could make a difference 01:45:02.770 --> 01:45:07.530 And there's so many people helping too, you know, like obviously it's not just a handful of people 01:45:07.530 --> 01:45:13.090 There's all kinds of people helping and doing the parts that I'm not so good at which is talking especially 01:45:13.090 --> 01:45:14.670 you know in person or 01:45:15.190 --> 01:45:17.750 That kind of thing like other people are out there 01:45:18.310 --> 01:45:19.890 showing the information so 01:45:20.750 --> 01:45:23.510 I'm hopeful we were going to see a um 01:45:23.510 --> 01:45:24.590 Some kind of 01:45:25.110 --> 01:45:27.270 shift in our lifetime even 01:45:27.790 --> 01:45:29.590 I think it's already it's already 01:45:32.230 --> 01:45:38.830 Yeah, exactly. I just had a conversation with my sister who's been fully employed by the medical system as a nurse and 01:45:39.490 --> 01:45:41.910 She let me say all kinds of stuff this time 01:45:42.430 --> 01:45:44.430 and not not that it was uh 01:45:44.990 --> 01:45:51.570 Agreeing with me, but you could see she was at least expanding to see how I could think like that without 01:45:52.230 --> 01:45:54.230 Being critical or needing to defend 01:45:54.870 --> 01:46:00.490 Her position or anything like that, you know that there is such thing as critical mass, right? 01:46:00.490 --> 01:46:02.350 When there's enough people around you 01:46:02.910 --> 01:46:03.610 able to 01:46:04.240 --> 01:46:10.170 Just ask a question and entertain the the fact that they don't have all of the information yet 01:46:10.170 --> 01:46:16.970 That is uh contagious all you see is like oh well if they can open their mind for 10 seconds 01:46:16.970 --> 01:46:19.050 Maybe that won't kill me too 01:46:19.560 --> 01:46:23.690 Right and this is the positive influence that that our lives have on each other 01:46:23.690 --> 01:46:28.850 It's why I'm a huge proponent of people really doing the inner work because you don't you don't understand 01:46:28.850 --> 01:46:37.370 What a a ripple effect that has on the people around you that it may or may not it's polarizing people may or may not choose 01:46:37.930 --> 01:46:40.930 To to come along because it's a question of free will 01:46:41.430 --> 01:46:47.370 But at least you make it more possible when you step out and make courageous purposeful moves 01:46:49.070 --> 01:46:50.030 Yeah, um 01:46:50.030 --> 01:46:54.670 Sorry, there was something I was gonna say. No, I just totally lost it. But uh, yeah 01:46:55.310 --> 01:46:55.570 Sorry 01:46:56.330 --> 01:46:58.970 That's okay. No, I was just gonna say thank you for that 01:46:59.630 --> 01:47:03.510 For being a pioneer in the serena and going through all of the 01:47:04.110 --> 01:47:09.530 I'm I'm sure like incredible attacks that must have taken place at times and 01:47:09.530 --> 01:47:15.550 Yeah, there's there's been some of that. I always kind of feel safe though like I 01:47:16.290 --> 01:47:21.610 You know I've had moments where I get a little nervous about things, but I'm for the most part I feel safe so 01:47:22.350 --> 01:47:25.790 People haven't tried to take you down and out. No, I don't think so 01:47:25.790 --> 01:47:29.030 I had one night when I went for a walk and I thought somebody was after me, but 01:47:29.830 --> 01:47:31.110 It was my imagination 01:47:31.610 --> 01:47:38.550 Right, right. Yeah, I remember when I was first waking up and I got so paranoid. It's like, oh, no, I know they know I know and 01:47:39.170 --> 01:47:39.970 Yes, right 01:47:40.430 --> 01:47:44.490 Be in my garage when I drive in and all right waiting for me and so 01:47:44.490 --> 01:47:49.130 I know what I was gonna say you're seeing people getting more open-minded. Um 01:47:49.130 --> 01:47:54.730 Just a couple of quick stories like I have a friend in bc where you know the ostrich situation was playing now 01:47:54.730 --> 01:47:59.210 And he's known for years about you know, what what we're just been talking about 01:47:59.850 --> 01:48:06.130 And so he every chance he gets he's trying to share this with politicians and whatnot and people in media 01:48:06.670 --> 01:48:13.550 So he ran into uh, you can see lives in a smaller community and he ran into the member of parliament for his area 01:48:13.550 --> 01:48:18.410 In a grocery store and ended up having a conversation with him and he brought up 01:48:18.880 --> 01:48:19.190 that 01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:20.190 the 01:48:21.510 --> 01:48:27.870 2020 supposed thing um hadn't been shown to exist and this mpp at the mp 01:48:28.950 --> 01:48:30.010 He already knew 01:48:31.100 --> 01:48:39.030 He was already aware. He didn't act surprised or anything. He's like he he realized that and then my friend said well, that's also true for the 01:48:39.720 --> 01:48:41.130 bird flu situation 01:48:42.050 --> 01:48:42.670 and 01:48:43.490 --> 01:48:45.470 And then the mp was like 01:48:45.990 --> 01:48:48.110 Oh, oh no, kind of thing right 01:48:48.750 --> 01:48:51.130 But so that happened that was interesting and then 01:48:51.710 --> 01:48:55.090 Actually going back two or three years. I was in a town outside of 01:48:55.090 --> 01:49:02.190 Outside of my hometown and still in Ontario and I'm walking along the main street and I happened to notice. Oh, here's the office for the mp 01:49:02.190 --> 01:49:06.430 Here's the office for the mpp the federal and provincial members of parliament 01:49:07.110 --> 01:49:13.330 And so I popped into both of them unannounced and of course they always tell you that the person's not in the office 01:49:13.830 --> 01:49:20.590 But I spoke to their assistants in both cases and I start telling them like there's no evidence for the supposed thing 01:49:21.370 --> 01:49:24.230 And neither them even batten eyelash 01:49:24.770 --> 01:49:28.010 Like I was expecting them to act like I was cuckoo 01:49:28.010 --> 01:49:32.450 And they and I was like, I think there's been people who know for quite a while 01:49:33.790 --> 01:49:39.410 Exactly. Yeah, there is uh people if you that's why propaganda needs to be 01:49:39.410 --> 01:49:42.050 constant and repetitive and 01:49:42.050 --> 01:49:45.670 You can't let up on propaganda because people forget 01:49:46.130 --> 01:49:50.490 When there's no actual substance or knowledge to be had they forget the propaganda 01:49:50.490 --> 01:49:52.590 The the impression wears off 01:49:53.050 --> 01:49:57.330 And they stop being afraid and they stop, you know, observing 01:49:58.810 --> 01:50:05.050 Regulations and they they just live their normal life. That's more based in truth compared to the the lie 01:50:05.050 --> 01:50:06.810 You have to tell them over and over and over 01:50:06.810 --> 01:50:10.450 Right, same with advertising the crappy thing 01:50:10.450 --> 01:50:16.850 They have to pump a lot of money into continuing to advertise because you're not going to remember to go eat the crappy thing 01:50:17.670 --> 01:50:20.610 For the whole part, right? They don't need to advertise basic 01:50:21.170 --> 01:50:23.890 Whole food it it sells itself 01:50:25.030 --> 01:50:26.690 Right because you want that 01:50:27.290 --> 01:50:30.210 So, yeah, maybe maybe just a last question here 01:50:30.770 --> 01:50:38.190 Around you know, is there anything that you feel like you learned about yourself that you maybe didn't expect to see or you didn't know over the 01:50:38.750 --> 01:50:42.410 Could be maybe since 2009 or since 2020 01:50:43.770 --> 01:50:44.830 um, I think 01:50:47.330 --> 01:50:51.390 Uh, I think just well, I don't know if it's really getting to know myself better 01:50:51.390 --> 01:50:51.770 but 01:50:52.250 --> 01:50:55.210 That whole thing of just being careful about what I say because I 01:50:55.770 --> 01:50:59.010 That's been a huge thing for me like just how much that I don't really know 01:50:59.010 --> 01:51:05.490 And through the last five years realizing how many things that maybe we've been misled about that don't really 01:51:06.010 --> 01:51:07.630 Look like maybe they're not true 01:51:07.630 --> 01:51:13.350 And yeah, I've grown of course because you know, I had to force myself outside my my comfort zone. So 01:51:14.050 --> 01:51:15.010 and um 01:51:15.650 --> 01:51:20.310 Yeah, I don't know if it's really learning about myself, but just I'm just at a point where I'm just kind of tired and I want to 01:51:23.530 --> 01:51:27.390 Walk away, you know, but uh, but I won't because 01:51:27.990 --> 01:51:30.610 You know, gotta just keep plugging away at it 01:51:31.230 --> 01:51:31.710 um 01:51:31.710 --> 01:51:32.410 Yeah 01:51:32.990 --> 01:51:33.270 nice 01:51:33.730 --> 01:51:40.170 And do you think there it is going to be next steps or there are going to be next steps for you in a different arena or 01:51:40.170 --> 01:51:41.730 Yeah, you have you kind of find home 01:51:41.730 --> 01:51:44.510 right now, I'm kind of um 01:51:45.190 --> 01:51:50.090 I'm helping somebody with something else like kind of behind the scenes and um 01:51:51.450 --> 01:51:53.250 Uh, there'll there'll be other 01:51:54.250 --> 01:51:55.370 things, um 01:51:55.370 --> 01:51:58.850 But yeah, I don't really know what my future holds like 01:51:59.830 --> 01:52:04.970 All I know right now is I'm I'm working on a letter to the minister of transportation about 01:52:05.630 --> 01:52:09.550 That touches on the legal names and who owns the 01:52:10.090 --> 01:52:15.330 Vehicle and stuff like that, but yeah, nothing or shattering. I'm sure a lot of your people know about that already 01:52:16.750 --> 01:52:17.970 That's okay. Yeah, no 01:52:18.570 --> 01:52:22.510 Research and trying to gather a little more information and whatnot 01:52:23.330 --> 01:52:29.790 That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. No, I I admire your diligence. So I'm posting this is a clickable link, uh to 01:52:30.850 --> 01:52:34.330 Christine's facebook profile up. You don't mind I grabbed that for you 01:52:34.850 --> 01:52:39.830 and uh the website with all of the information about fluoride and then 01:52:40.400 --> 01:52:43.650 Uh, Christine does a wonderful sub stack that comes out 01:52:44.330 --> 01:52:50.810 Very regularly. It's funny. I get notifications at the beginning and then I stop getting notifications. I don't know why 01:52:51.450 --> 01:52:52.190 that would be 01:52:52.190 --> 01:52:55.970 And uh, yeah, I think that's all if you'd like to share out this 01:52:56.690 --> 01:52:57.390 interview, I 01:52:58.010 --> 01:53:02.870 Appreciate sharing this link in particular that goes to the blog and it has all of the recording links 01:53:03.450 --> 01:53:06.650 This interview will show up on spike spotify 01:53:07.390 --> 01:53:07.970 spy tunes 01:53:08.450 --> 01:53:11.190 That's different uh itunes and spotify 01:53:11.650 --> 01:53:13.490 Oh, it's funny. It keeps doubling up the 01:53:13.970 --> 01:53:14.810 The link there 01:53:15.490 --> 01:53:19.790 And yeah, so this is a good one to share out and people can catch it on multiple platforms 01:53:19.790 --> 01:53:24.530 And I appreciate everyone in the chat and thank you Christine. It's been absolutely wonderful 01:53:25.050 --> 01:53:27.430 To have you and speak with you finally 01:53:28.730 --> 01:53:30.130 Admiring from a distance 01:53:31.530 --> 01:53:31.970 Yeah 01:53:33.390 --> 01:53:37.770 And if anyone is interested in the work that I'm up to you can visit beth martins.com 01:53:37.770 --> 01:53:42.130 I always invite people to do an archetype course. I should have got you to do it christine, but it's not too 01:53:42.130 --> 01:53:46.430 I'll do it now. I'll do it. Okay, perfect. Yeah. Yeah, it only takes about 10 minutes 01:53:46.430 --> 01:53:51.850 I can I can direct message you the link after but here it is on the chat as well for anyone that wants to do that 01:53:51.850 --> 01:53:56.510 Find out where on the path of purpose you are so you can get a little bit of insight into 01:53:56.510 --> 01:54:02.490 The gifts and the shadows which often are like gold when you find them because 01:54:03.050 --> 01:54:07.090 When you find a shadow, it means that's a place you are losing energy 01:54:07.650 --> 01:54:12.810 And you're not able when when there's energy lost it doesn't go anywhere. It's just tied up 01:54:12.810 --> 01:54:15.950 You can't take energy out of a closed system that we're in 01:54:16.810 --> 01:54:20.390 But nonetheless, you're going to experience it as a loss of energy 01:54:20.390 --> 01:54:27.410 So I'm all about people reclaiming the energy that they naturally have so we could be free 01:54:27.410 --> 01:54:31.670 Not just free from the lies and free from tyranny and free from 01:54:31.670 --> 01:54:37.510 Being poisoned, but but the actual birthright of the source of our own existence 01:54:37.510 --> 01:54:41.790 That's that's what I'm a stand for so I do coaching and courses and I help people 01:54:42.430 --> 01:54:48.510 Decode what is going on in their own inner life so they don't have to spend forever doing it 01:54:49.250 --> 01:54:53.810 Let's see. There's one last question. Does it do you want to take one last question from the chat here? 01:54:54.890 --> 01:54:59.890 Just were you harassed during the lockdowns? A little bit. Um, I had 01:55:00.530 --> 01:55:06.830 You know a couple situations while I was shopping, you know when I didn't cover my face. I was kicked out of a 01:55:07.830 --> 01:55:13.350 Park in Brampton. I was had gone to the park one morning when they had it all locked down and 01:55:13.830 --> 01:55:17.330 Just because I had a migraine coming on and I desperately needed to be in nature 01:55:17.330 --> 01:55:20.570 And I was living in an apartment and then got kicked out 01:55:20.570 --> 01:55:25.210 I might have put up a fuss, but I couldn't with the migraine coming on so I just left 01:55:25.210 --> 01:55:28.690 And then I lost my job where I was working at the time 01:55:29.370 --> 01:55:30.450 Because I wouldn't 01:55:31.530 --> 01:55:33.010 Wouldn't wear the mask. So 01:55:33.410 --> 01:55:39.450 Right. Yeah, those are the main the main things. Yeah, and not to diminish it that the usual stuff the normal stuff 01:55:39.450 --> 01:55:44.570 Yeah, that we all had to the abuse that we had to put up with was really staggering 01:55:46.030 --> 01:55:50.830 But again, thank you very much for being here. I totally appreciate it's been been wonderful to speak with you 01:55:50.830 --> 01:55:56.050 Thank you, Beth. Thank you. Thank you as well. All right. I'm gonna set up a 01:55:56.050 --> 01:56:00.450 An outro that is recorded by my son. He's playing 01:56:00.950 --> 01:56:05.610 His guitar and I wish you guys have a beautiful rest of your day while we 01:56:05.610 --> 01:56:07.270 Get played out here 01:56:08.050 --> 01:56:12.650 Bye for now. Oh, by the way, I'll just let you know too with it. We'll see you back here 01:56:13.210 --> 01:56:18.050 Friday afternoon at 2 p.m. Central time for beth of fresh air that comes from 01:56:18.570 --> 01:56:24.150 Many people sending me comments over the years saying that beth you are a breath of fresh air 01:56:24.650 --> 01:56:29.570 And this week I'll see if in case you didn't hear the very beginning. I'm going to do part two of remember 01:56:30.210 --> 01:56:32.990 Which is a very big subject. It turns out and highly 01:56:33.790 --> 01:56:37.670 instrumental in all kinds of ways that we perceive and navigate in the world 01:56:37.670 --> 01:56:44.510 So lots of love for now everybody. I hope you have a beautiful rest of your day. See you Friday 01:57:50.790 --> 01:57:51.550 Bye guys