WEBVTT 00:02.060 --> 00:10.180 It's time for declare your independence with Ernest Hancock believe me when I say we have a 00:10.180 --> 00:19.820 Difficult time ahead of us, but if we are to be prepared for it, we must first shed our fear of it. I 00:19.820 --> 00:23.540 Stand here without fear because I remember 00:24.300 --> 00:31.420 I remember that I am here not because of the path that lies before me, but because of the path that lies behind me 00:32.380 --> 00:36.780 I remember that for 100 years. We have fought these machines and 00:37.660 --> 00:42.820 After a century of war, I remember that which matters most 01:09.160 --> 01:19.260 We're gonna get into it today get into it today Nick Bryant Nick Bryant author 01:21.480 --> 01:28.160 Corruption, you know and and at the root of and we're gonna go in the way back machine a little bit and give you a 01:28.160 --> 01:37.420 Perspective that I had as a young activist you come into the world of politics. You understand why I don't know being 01:37.420 --> 01:42.600 You know what a pedophile is a minimum job requirement for being a congressman or something 01:42.600 --> 01:49.120 I mean, it's just you look at this stuff and you're going who are these people? What's going on now? 01:49.760 --> 01:55.620 At I started like 88 getting involved in that kind of it's long story 01:55.620 --> 01:59.600 But at that time in the early 90s 01:59.600 --> 02:05.880 You didn't know what was up unless you knew about the Franklin scandal now the Franklin scandal was 02:06.580 --> 02:08.500 The Bush White House 02:09.040 --> 02:14.920 Washington Post puts out a story. It suppressed it censored its back then finally add the book 02:14.920 --> 02:21.760 The Franklin scandal now the Franklin scandal was written by Nick Bryant and it referred to a series of 02:21.760 --> 02:24.380 allegations in the late 80s early 90s 02:24.840 --> 02:25.440 surrounding 02:27.360 --> 02:33.180 Omaha Nebraska based credit union that's you know Franklin was the name of it and you know the 02:33.180 --> 02:39.360 Money in trafficking and sex trafficking and young and I remember Boys Town was involved 02:39.360 --> 02:44.260 You got these you know fragile foster home kind of young men that were 02:44.920 --> 02:50.780 Boys that were taking advantage of but what was interesting is you had even 02:50.780 --> 02:55.760 State legislators getting involved you had people that were trying to do their own 02:55.760 --> 03:02.180 Investigations has kept getting squashed and the Air Force was involved. I remember that I was like what the crap 03:02.180 --> 03:08.560 So as time has gone on we've covered various different scandals and now you remember 03:09.440 --> 03:16.800 Epstein's black book well that was published by Nick Bryant that was his work and kind of led to 03:16.800 --> 03:21.680 Epstein justice. Let's let's get this out because Nick 03:22.100 --> 03:25.940 understood the culture the mindset the 03:27.280 --> 03:30.860 Evil criminal minds of the people involved 03:31.600 --> 03:37.260 Franklin scandal so I'm gonna ask Nick to give us a 03:37.750 --> 03:40.600 Some context in that 03:40.600 --> 03:43.860 That brings us up to what's going on now 03:43.860 --> 03:48.340 I think it's important that we know that CIA director 03:48.900 --> 03:52.780 Become vice president become president with China bastard 03:53.340 --> 03:59.460 George Daddy Bush, you know in the middle of this stuff and it goes on then what came after that Clinton 03:59.460 --> 04:04.560 What did they do they get all the FBI files on everybody and you know 04:04.560 --> 04:08.080 How can we squeeze and do and here comes the Communist America? 04:08.840 --> 04:13.530 So at the behind that the control mechanism of that is 04:14.180 --> 04:17.000 Nick Bryant he has to have an opinion 04:17.680 --> 04:24.280 That's what I'm looking forward to is making the connection Nick Bryant. Thanks for coming on the show Nick 04:24.280 --> 04:30.960 This is going to be interesting and probably a different perspective than what you're 04:30.960 --> 04:34.460 used to presenting but as a you know 04:35.080 --> 04:43.620 Retired over guy now. I was so impacted by your work and a window in the government and 04:43.620 --> 04:51.660 The type of people that rule in us that I need you to share what you've learned in the connection to now 04:51.660 --> 04:53.700 Can you help me out? Would you please? 04:55.040 --> 04:58.440 my honesty started in 2002 and 04:59.080 --> 04:59.500 I 05:00.440 --> 05:02.520 Came across a US Customs Report 05:03.800 --> 05:06.640 That was very very strange 05:07.760 --> 05:08.640 there were 05:09.240 --> 05:13.800 two adults and six children in a park in Tallahassee and 05:14.760 --> 05:17.760 the six children looked like ragamuffins and 05:18.480 --> 05:24.700 A concerned citizen called the Tallahassee Police Department and the Tallahassee Police Department responded 05:24.700 --> 05:32.140 And they looked at the two adults who were dressed in very nice clothes and the six children that looked like ragamuffins and 05:33.400 --> 05:34.680 They immediately 05:35.260 --> 05:35.640 arrested 05:36.380 --> 05:38.340 the two guys and 05:38.340 --> 05:41.180 put the six kids in protective custody and 05:43.040 --> 05:43.680 a 05:43.680 --> 05:44.320 doctor 05:45.580 --> 05:52.900 Had said that two of the kids showed signs of sexual abuse now. This was in Tallahassee, Florida and 05:52.900 --> 05:57.340 And the cult that these guys were from was called the finders and 05:58.060 --> 06:00.900 They were they had a warehouse in Washington, DC and 06:01.860 --> 06:03.920 the Washington DC police 06:05.380 --> 06:11.060 Had been on the trail of the finders for quite some time about an unsolved homicide and 06:12.300 --> 06:14.560 Doing very bad things to children 06:15.500 --> 06:16.140 so 06:17.340 --> 06:21.860 What ultimately happened was the DC police and the US Customs 06:22.940 --> 06:25.560 search warrant on 06:25.560 --> 06:30.520 The warehouse of the finders and they came across horrific stuff 06:31.300 --> 06:38.840 They came across a telex that said that the finders were buying a couple of children in Hong Kong 06:39.660 --> 06:41.040 they came across 06:41.900 --> 06:44.700 what would be viewed as child pornography and 06:46.700 --> 06:51.140 They came across a lot of just weird stuff where people would 06:52.020 --> 06:57.500 Put a add in the one ads this is before Craigslist and 06:58.080 --> 07:02.420 they would look for a babysitter and a finder would actually go and and 07:03.480 --> 07:10.620 Present themselves as a babysitter. So they came across all this horrific stuff and 07:12.220 --> 07:16.180 The US Customs Officer his name is Ramon Martinez and 07:17.340 --> 07:22.280 He was the customs officer that led it but the as I said earlier the 07:22.280 --> 07:27.540 The search warrant had been executed by both the US Customs and the DC police 07:28.320 --> 07:32.460 so Ramon Martinez hadn't heard anything for a while and 07:34.360 --> 07:39.500 He decided to go to the DC police and he goes, you know, what's happening with the finders and 07:40.680 --> 07:45.160 The DC police told him and this is in his customs report 07:46.180 --> 07:52.480 The DC police told him that the finders had become an internal CIA matter and that there would be no more investigation 07:52.480 --> 07:54.160 And what year is this? 07:55.100 --> 07:56.220 This is 07:56.900 --> 07:57.180 1989 07:58.700 --> 08:01.600 Or actually, I think it's 1987. Yeah 08:05.060 --> 08:11.240 Well that connection into the White House and what was going on there was what you know 08:11.240 --> 08:18.300 Do you have this Tallahassee cop going? Hey, man, we found these guys and you're supposed to investigate and we did what happened 08:19.090 --> 08:21.400 CIA nothing to see here than what? 08:23.380 --> 08:30.840 Well that got me thinking in areas that I hadn't thought before it that document kind of induced a 08:30.840 --> 08:32.840 paradigm shift to a certain degree and 08:33.700 --> 08:36.080 I began looking into I 08:36.720 --> 08:44.700 Was so shocked that the CIA would quash an investigation like that about some people that were seemingly doing very bad things to children 08:45.280 --> 08:50.200 That I started looking for other examples of that. Are you shocked? 08:51.700 --> 08:54.320 What's that are you shocked now? 08:55.260 --> 08:58.520 Well, I've been at it for 23 years. So 08:59.420 --> 09:03.540 Some some of the Epstein stuff really shocked me a little bit 09:05.220 --> 09:07.820 But I've been at it for a long time. I found 09:09.120 --> 09:14.540 If there was a lot of internet in your window about how to found that work run out of Omaha 09:15.320 --> 09:18.180 That had been covered up by federal authorities 09:19.420 --> 09:25.940 So I decided to check that out. I live in New York City. I've been a freelance writer in New York City since 09:26.420 --> 09:26.860 1995 09:28.580 --> 09:32.560 So I went to Omaha to check this out. I was a little skeptical but 09:33.540 --> 09:41.340 the finders US Customs reported kind of opened my mind to various possibilities that I previously wouldn't have entertained and 09:42.700 --> 09:47.280 When I got to Omaha, I I got some documentation pretty quickly and 09:48.860 --> 09:52.020 That documentation had the names of 60 victims 09:53.260 --> 09:59.060 and then I started to talk to people that were that had tried to do the right thing and 09:59.720 --> 10:04.580 They were just rolled over by a juggernaut of federal power. I talked to a former 10:05.200 --> 10:10.460 Nebraska State Senator. I talked to someone who is very high up in social services and 10:11.820 --> 10:13.740 Both of them told me that 10:15.840 --> 10:19.980 That what happened was they were just rolled over by by 10:19.980 --> 10:24.300 Federal firepower and they were frightened people that I was talking to 10:25.420 --> 10:27.660 About this we're frightened the 10:27.660 --> 10:33.420 Network was in operation for about 10 years and it got covered up in the late 80s or the 90s 10:33.420 --> 10:36.040 So I'm asking questions at this point. It's 203 10:36.780 --> 10:42.680 And I'm asking questions and it's like I'm doing an expose on the KGB in Stalinist Russia 10:42.680 --> 10:44.300 People were terrified 10:45.040 --> 10:48.140 When you say they were rolled over by federal power 10:49.280 --> 10:58.140 How's that manifested? What does that mean, you know, are they are they just you know not responding the request? 10:59.100 --> 11:06.080 They're threatening they knock on your door at home and so you know got little curly things in their ear and black suits and 11:06.080 --> 11:07.880 Explain it to you. What do you mean? 11:09.860 --> 11:12.500 the victims that came forward the FBI 11:13.080 --> 11:15.220 got really heavy with them and 11:16.060 --> 11:22.500 Told them all that they would be indicted for perjury if they didn't recant their accounts of abuse and 11:23.540 --> 11:24.840 the FBI also 11:26.000 --> 11:30.560 threatened perpetrators in this network that actually wanted to make a deal and 11:33.380 --> 11:38.340 There were two grand juries one was a state grand jury and one was a federal grand jury 11:38.340 --> 11:42.200 I ended up with almost all the documentation of the state grand jury and 11:42.200 --> 11:48.360 I don't know if your audiences are familiar with how grand juries work, but they're very easy to corrupt a 11:49.680 --> 11:54.240 Special prosecutor is chosen to oversee a grand jury. It's not adversarial and 11:55.560 --> 12:00.780 Grand jurors are just citizens that have shown up for jury duty and have been found to a grand jury and 12:01.680 --> 12:07.000 the special prosecutor calls the witnesses that the grand jurors will hear from and 12:07.900 --> 12:08.420 also 12:09.220 --> 12:14.740 Shows them the evidence that they or she that he or she deems appropriate 12:14.740 --> 12:22.080 So they could really twist what grand jurors say actually there was a New York Supreme Court judge that said 12:22.740 --> 12:24.580 special prosecutors of 12:25.120 --> 12:30.600 Grand juries have so much power over grand jurors that they could get them to indict a ham sandwich now both 12:30.600 --> 12:37.840 Those grand juries said not a single child had been abused and actually there was an a grand jury a steak grand jury with 12:37.840 --> 12:41.880 Epstein that said not a single child had been abused so 12:42.680 --> 12:45.040 that was and and 12:45.040 --> 12:46.180 the FBI 12:47.600 --> 12:49.040 really and 12:49.040 --> 12:51.520 in addition to threatening victims and 12:52.280 --> 12:59.280 Threatening perpetrators it threat the those FBI against threatened a number of people and the Nebraska State Patrol 12:59.280 --> 13:02.720 was along for the ride with threatening people so 13:03.360 --> 13:05.600 they got people to hunker down and 13:06.480 --> 13:13.110 The there was a Senate committee a Nebraska Senate committee that was looking into this and 13:15.240 --> 13:16.020 The 13:17.010 --> 13:19.720 investigator who was really uncovering a lot of 13:20.520 --> 13:24.920 malfeasance his plane blew up over Lee County, Illinois and 13:26.700 --> 13:31.520 That was kind of it for the investigation there's a 13:32.380 --> 13:39.180 There's a Chinese proverb kill one man silence a thousand and that was definitely applicable in this case 13:41.860 --> 13:43.920 So the book 13:44.840 --> 13:50.580 When you did the Franklin scandal, how does the philosophy? 13:52.220 --> 13:54.920 the tactics the use of 13:55.640 --> 13:56.700 These rings 13:57.360 --> 14:01.540 Integrate into what's going on now, you know, this gives you a special 14:02.680 --> 14:09.960 Contacts and understanding the methodology certainly, you know, the rose colored glasses was taken off 14:09.960 --> 14:14.040 You know from you're looking at the CIA, so this is 14:14.040 --> 14:17.900 Who and what was doing it then and 14:18.720 --> 14:24.420 Is it morphed into what's going on now is it a continuation is there an overlap? 14:24.920 --> 14:31.360 You know, it's just just businesses usual in Washington from your unique perspective. I need 14:31.360 --> 14:35.940 Those intertwined or reconciled with each other. Can you help me? Sure? 14:36.540 --> 14:41.820 So there were two primary pimps in the Franklin scandal one was Lawrence King of Omaha, Nebraska 14:41.820 --> 14:45.640 and one was Craig Spence of Washington DC and 14:46.600 --> 14:53.780 Craig Spence was the CIA asset and his home was wired for audiovisual blackmail and that's where the parties went down 14:54.300 --> 14:57.700 So if you did anything illicit in that house 14:59.560 --> 15:05.600 You were you would be blackmailed and and power brokers congressmen 15:06.300 --> 15:09.860 journalists everybody went to that that house to party and 15:11.340 --> 15:15.240 A lot of times they didn't know what kind of a party they were stepping into 15:16.060 --> 15:16.640 but 15:17.260 --> 15:19.980 With Spence those parties 15:22.280 --> 15:26.760 It would they would start like as a straight cocktail party in Washington, DC 15:26.760 --> 15:33.300 And then maybe a ten or eleven something inappropriate would happen sexually or someone to break out of some coke or 15:33.300 --> 15:37.920 someone to fire up a joint and and then the people that 15:38.600 --> 15:45.300 Wanted us that were kind of appalled by that would sleeve but the people that stuck around became 15:46.180 --> 15:49.560 Whatever they did they would they were they were blackmail 15:49.980 --> 15:54.760 And you've got to keep in mind that they'd been plied with alcohol throughout the night 15:58.860 --> 16:00.860 So with Epstein 16:02.280 --> 16:07.660 We have something similar I believe that Jeffrey Epstein was definitely an intelligence asset and 16:08.780 --> 16:13.780 All his homes were wired for audiovisual blackmail and he trafficked children 16:13.780 --> 16:19.240 He trafficked children the Franklin network was I believe bigger than Epstein's network 16:19.980 --> 16:25.860 But it was only around for ten years whereas I think Epstein's network was around for about 25 years 16:28.060 --> 16:29.300 Well, so there 16:29.920 --> 16:35.020 Was no overlap was there a a overlap of clients is a 16:36.120 --> 16:39.920 Mindset a it's just like another operation of 16:39.920 --> 16:46.120 Project next. I mean, you know, I'm looking for okay. I give you an example 16:46.860 --> 16:49.400 Explaining where I'm going with this. I 16:49.400 --> 16:50.540 need to know when I 16:51.400 --> 16:54.400 interviewed an actress from Hollywood and 16:55.800 --> 17:00.420 She described it as it's like a religion, you know, it's a cult 17:00.420 --> 17:06.860 It's you know, they're getting their stripes for being front seat in the hell and in charge of and they get the you know 17:06.860 --> 17:15.560 The most expensive BMW whatever their freaking motivation is is that there's a mindset a culture and then I start to 17:15.560 --> 17:20.860 You don't realize just really in the last decade or so. I'm 65 17:20.860 --> 17:24.200 I'm in my 50s before I really understood 17:25.000 --> 17:30.280 Sociopathy, you know, he's sociopath psychopath. That doesn't mean anything to me. You know, okay 17:30.280 --> 17:33.900 He's a bad guy sociopaths there are bad. I mean, okay, I get it 17:33.900 --> 17:41.660 But when you get to the definition that they lack empathy compassion, they don't have that in their wheelhouse 17:41.660 --> 17:48.100 I mean, they just don't feel the same emotions that we do shame and guilt is not, you know 17:49.260 --> 17:55.040 Consideration and they do these bad things because they're bad because they can you know 17:55.040 --> 18:00.260 There's no moral hurdle. They got to get over. You know, they wouldn't do election fraud. That'd be wrong 18:00.260 --> 18:04.120 I mean, you know, so once you're dealing with these kind and then all of a sudden 18:05.240 --> 18:11.420 Decades of my activism running for office meeting in the green room before you go out on live 18:11.660 --> 18:17.640 You know have on the town halls as a party officer negotiating with, you know 18:17.640 --> 18:23.360 bureaucrats on access to data the kind you have just and there was something wrong with them 18:23.360 --> 18:28.880 I'm going there is something wrong with these people. It's just they they would lie 18:28.880 --> 18:35.840 Default lie when it didn't even benefit their case. I'm why it was a default. There was something 18:36.940 --> 18:40.540 Mentally emotionally socially wrong with these people 18:41.660 --> 18:49.980 As time goes on you start to understand love compassion empathy that just not even in, you know, their mind 18:50.780 --> 18:57.380 It's totally different. So that's where I'm looking at and seeing as you go in politics here in Arizona 18:57.380 --> 19:03.860 You know, and then you travel the country. We do all our activism stuff the revolution and everything 19:03.860 --> 19:08.660 I'm going a little bus Liberty tour. We're going around and everywhere you go 19:08.660 --> 19:11.020 these people have the same 19:12.440 --> 19:17.700 Characteristics, I mean a lot of times even how they look at you and they have no shame 19:18.520 --> 19:26.280 You caught me on that one. Yeah kid. I've had this told me. Yeah kid when I was younger and what are you gonna do about it? 19:27.760 --> 19:32.960 Wow, they said that to the wrong guy, but I mean, you know, this is the mindset we're dealing with 19:32.960 --> 19:38.700 So that is the continuity that I'm looking for not necessarily they shared bank accounts or something 19:38.700 --> 19:42.900 But they share an ideology they share an emotional state 19:42.900 --> 19:48.420 They share a way their mind works because government attracts power 19:48.420 --> 19:54.260 They want the power they want the control and who wants it more than anybody else these kinds of people 19:54.260 --> 19:59.700 I guess because that's what I'm seeing government is saturated with the intelligence community 19:59.700 --> 20:02.700 The you know, you go high enough up on the power 20:03.580 --> 20:13.260 Structure of law enforcement of the judicial system in Congress the Senate presidency. I mean, it is just we are saturated with this 20:14.540 --> 20:20.000 Religion culture philosophy or something and I don't know who else to ask 20:20.440 --> 20:23.560 that has done this kind of research into these 20:23.560 --> 20:31.860 These scandals these events this this mindset and get your opinion on those statements. You understand my point? 20:32.700 --> 20:34.460 Yeah, I think so 20:34.460 --> 20:35.500 so 20:35.500 --> 20:40.260 The Franklin scandal and the Epstein scandal are very different the Franklin scandal 20:40.260 --> 20:44.900 pantered little boys underage boys to 20:45.900 --> 20:47.720 Republicans and 20:47.720 --> 20:55.160 Epstein pantered underage girls mostly to Democrats so and and there's was a 20:56.740 --> 21:00.960 Different I think Epstein really got rolling and 21:01.720 --> 21:07.620 Probably 1990 when the Franklin Scales getting shut down. I think there are various networks 21:08.380 --> 21:14.580 That are protected. I think Epstein and Franklin are just two examples of 21:14.580 --> 21:16.740 You know, here's the next question 21:17.360 --> 21:19.620 Let me follow up. Okay, please 21:20.160 --> 21:22.640 so I 21:22.640 --> 21:24.420 Was having a hard time 21:24.420 --> 21:26.800 getting my mind around this and 21:27.760 --> 21:30.560 I got to one of the black male photographers 21:30.960 --> 21:32.980 for the Franklin scandal and 21:32.980 --> 21:35.580 You can't you don't read about this in books 21:36.980 --> 21:37.600 and 21:37.600 --> 21:44.300 I was the whole thing was so evil and it was so big and I I just wanted to 21:44.960 --> 21:51.380 Distill it and I asked him and he said and this is where you get your 21:51.880 --> 21:55.540 People that have that think that they're above the law that are entitled 21:56.080 --> 21:58.020 He said once you're compromised 21:58.020 --> 22:02.940 It's like you're on a yacht and it's a beautiful yacht and it's a beautiful day 22:03.560 --> 22:06.500 And you can have anything you want on the yacht 22:07.080 --> 22:11.920 but if you decide to get off the yacht the people on the yacht are going to make sure that you drown and 22:11.920 --> 22:17.500 That's what being compromised. It's like you're on the yacht and everything is going to be alright 22:17.500 --> 22:19.980 And you don't dare try to get off the yacht 22:24.680 --> 22:25.220 My 22:25.220 --> 22:27.840 Concern is is that there is 22:28.560 --> 22:35.680 How big is this yacht who's running the yacht on what ocean is the yacht because this is when you talk about these things 22:35.680 --> 22:40.420 They're separate projects and I'm wondering you follow it up high enough 22:40.420 --> 22:44.800 You get the all C&I on top of the pyramids that controlled the Democrat 22:45.320 --> 22:46.080 You know 22:46.600 --> 22:50.940 Little boy or little girls in the Republican little boys, you know 22:50.940 --> 22:56.320 And it's operated by the same thing for the same reasons to accomplish the same result and I'm going 22:56.960 --> 23:03.760 Wouldn't surprise me, but it certainly is a characteristic in people in those positions that lack 23:04.700 --> 23:10.020 Moral basis anyone that has one anyone that demonstrates Ron Paul 23:10.700 --> 23:18.000 Thomas Massey Marjorie Taylor Greene. Oh hell. No, you don't have the minimum job requirements to negotiate and be on team 23:18.000 --> 23:24.900 Whatever so it's so what I'm looking at is going to manifest itself again 23:24.900 --> 23:28.420 Probably already is you got Franklin scandal 23:28.420 --> 23:36.080 You got the Epstein files and you got the next of the next of another country centered in Europe of the next and I'm going 23:36.080 --> 23:38.200 What is behind it? 23:38.440 --> 23:44.120 Is it a a trade of human beings that they're exploiting and putting them in positions of power? 23:44.540 --> 23:45.620 I remember, you know 23:46.220 --> 23:53.380 They're surveilling Thailand and anybody they can catch going over there to pleasure themselves and use it and oh 23:53.380 --> 23:57.980 We got one, you know put him up put him as Prime Minister of country fill in the blank 23:57.980 --> 24:02.940 And then we control them and they publish it in a local newspaper and some language 24:02.940 --> 24:08.920 Nobody reads but they put it in the file. So this is it seems like a control mechanism 24:08.920 --> 24:13.120 and when we have Trump doing this Iran thing and 24:13.120 --> 24:16.300 Totally like a hundred and eighty from what was promised 24:16.300 --> 24:22.160 You got you know Tulsi Gabbard in there kind of being quiet and you know 24:22.160 --> 24:26.140 Well, what do you say you do here JD Vance has put up as well 24:26.140 --> 24:28.160 He was kind of sort of against it, you know 24:28.160 --> 24:32.020 But so you could vote for him in 28, but gosh darn it 24:32.020 --> 24:38.240 We're kicking ass now and I'm wondering who the hell is running this place. So and they don't run me 24:38.800 --> 24:44.500 Peace out. You guys know that your thing whatever and it's because of the stuff like this 24:44.500 --> 24:50.500 I'm looking for you want me. Do you want me to tell you please? Okay? 24:52.540 --> 24:53.040 So 24:53.740 --> 24:56.060 Epstein was an intelligence operation 24:56.680 --> 25:01.440 Without a doubt, but he got busted the Palm Beach Police Department 25:02.520 --> 25:10.440 Busted him that they had 17 underage victims and they were gonna indict him on four counts of unlawful sexual activity 25:11.000 --> 25:15.060 With a minor and one count of the loot in the civius molestation with a minor 25:15.060 --> 25:17.000 So that would have put him away for a long time 25:17.000 --> 25:25.140 But that case was taken away from them and given to a grand jury and I talked earlier about how easy it is to corrupt grand juries 25:25.140 --> 25:30.920 So that grand jury and and I've got the transcripts of the grand jury 25:30.920 --> 25:36.060 although the Palm Beach Police Department knew of 17 victims that only called two and 25:36.760 --> 25:43.380 That special prosecutor just skewered those poor girls. One was 14 when she was Muslim by Epstein 25:43.380 --> 25:49.340 She was now 16 and one was 16 when she was lost by Epstein repeatedly and she was now 18 25:49.340 --> 25:53.020 So these are very damaged girls to begin with and they were just skewered 25:53.640 --> 26:00.440 So Michael Ryder who was the head of the Palm Beach Police Department who was the real hero in the Epstein story 26:00.440 --> 26:07.360 Went to the Department of Justice and said this is the greatest miscarriage of justice in modern times 26:07.360 --> 26:09.780 You guys have to you guys have to fix this 26:11.720 --> 26:12.340 So 26:13.240 --> 26:17.680 Alexander Acosta was the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida at that time 26:19.020 --> 26:19.640 and 26:19.640 --> 26:28.220 They impaneled a grand jury and they drafted a 60 count indictment against Jeffrey Epstein 60 counts and 26:29.860 --> 26:37.460 One of those counts was child trafficking which in the federal system is is a heavy sense. It's it's 15 to life 26:38.120 --> 26:38.740 so 26:38.740 --> 26:47.300 The Department of Justice in Florida that U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta. He was he had the goods on Jeffrey Epstein 26:47.940 --> 26:50.480 but he was told to stand down and 26:51.320 --> 26:57.420 Epstein ultimately got a sweetheart deal. He spent 13 months and the feds at that point knew of 40 underage victims and 26:58.640 --> 27:02.860 Epstein got a sweetheart deal. He got 13 months in County Jail and 27:03.880 --> 27:10.640 All of his co-conspirators the government says there's no co-conspirators, but all of his co-conspirators were given blanket immunity 27:11.240 --> 27:13.480 Which the whole thing is unheard of 27:14.240 --> 27:20.300 So there's only two people in the government that can tell the U.S. Attorney to stand down and 27:20.300 --> 27:23.500 Alexander Acosta was obviously told to stand down 27:24.040 --> 27:28.260 One is the Attorney General and one is the president a U.S. Attorney 27:28.260 --> 27:35.220 Isn't going to unilaterally cover up a nationwide traffic child trafficking network. Just it's it's just not going to happen 27:35.220 --> 27:37.760 He's gonna have to get an okay from his boss 27:37.760 --> 27:42.980 Who is the Attorney General and at that point Alberto Gonzalez was the Attorney General and 27:44.460 --> 27:53.000 an attorney general isn't gonna unilaterally cover up a child trafficking network without his boss telling him to and his boss was George Bush 27:53.000 --> 27:54.360 to so 27:54.360 --> 27:57.680 with the Epstein scandal that's 27:58.260 --> 28:01.980 It emanated from the president. That's that's where it emanated from 28:04.900 --> 28:10.560 Why who is he protecting who was controlling him who got him to do that why did he care? 28:11.680 --> 28:12.240 because 28:13.580 --> 28:16.540 blackmail is an integral part of our political system and 28:18.340 --> 28:20.340 That's one thing that we don't want 28:20.340 --> 28:26.360 That that our leaders don't want Americans to know is that a lot of them are blackmailed 28:26.360 --> 28:29.420 And some of them are even blackmailed with 28:30.700 --> 28:31.300 Children 28:32.520 --> 28:33.120 minors 28:34.000 --> 28:39.800 So that is something that has to be protected at all costs because the American public 28:41.000 --> 28:44.100 If this came out, which I think some of it's coming out 28:44.880 --> 28:46.400 Wouldn't stand for that 28:46.400 --> 28:54.420 So I think that George Bush was not only protecting a number of different powerful people 28:54.420 --> 28:57.140 But he was protecting a political system 28:58.940 --> 29:05.260 You know when you write the book when America stopped being great, you know, I didn't write that that was a different 29:06.300 --> 29:10.460 Nick Bryant, there's two Nick Bryant's that are journalists and okay. Thank you 29:11.160 --> 29:17.700 But again, but you know definitely, you know, you mentioned that Tocqueville, you know come in America will cease to be 29:18.340 --> 29:23.100 Great when it ceases to be good kind of thing was kind of the thing that sparked that in my mind 29:23.100 --> 29:29.420 And then you know the Franklin scandal, you know confessions of a DC madam, you know 29:29.420 --> 29:36.260 Then you got Epstein files and so on, you know, it seems to be a theme here that you know 29:37.180 --> 29:37.820 Either 29:39.100 --> 29:47.580 Everybody's corruptible or every freaking politician in Washington is and if they can't get them a little boys or little girls 29:47.580 --> 29:53.140 Maybe a little infidelity and some pictures with a DC madam of we got some hookers 29:53.140 --> 29:56.440 so it seems to be a theme and 29:57.360 --> 30:03.740 That's why I'm looking for a commonality. Is it always funded is this, you know 30:04.380 --> 30:10.060 Epstein Rothschild money of somebody China putting in Russia agent 30:10.060 --> 30:16.500 This is how you get them and then we get congressman Dayton China spies. I mean, yeah, it's just so 30:17.220 --> 30:22.500 Pervasive it's almost in your face and I remember when they got some 30:23.940 --> 30:29.760 Federal item of congressman senator that was in a international airport bathroom 30:29.760 --> 30:36.340 Soliciting sex from an agent and they bring a man. Oh, I'm gonna have to resign and they go. No, no, no got you covered 30:36.340 --> 30:38.700 Don't worry buried this kind of doing 30:38.700 --> 30:45.040 That was that was Larry Craig and he ultimately did not run for another term 30:46.780 --> 30:49.920 25 years he didn't resign, but he didn't run for another term 30:50.500 --> 30:54.920 So but you see my point it seems like there is a this is a 30:54.920 --> 31:01.280 Mechanism and I'm wondering if you get any kind of inclination that there is a department of corruption 31:01.280 --> 31:03.440 because when we have the 31:05.600 --> 31:08.960 Clintons get all the FBI files to try to you know 31:08.960 --> 31:15.040 Control everything and then in the 16 election cycle in February of 17 31:15.040 --> 31:22.220 They had scheduled an IPO for their you know, Doug Bann being it today, you know, there was Tanao 31:22.220 --> 31:27.300 Yeah, it was Tanao is corruption are us, you know, it's a power broker BB 31:27.300 --> 31:32.840 You know, they had all this if it just seems like it is on purpose. It's a plan 31:32.840 --> 31:34.680 It certainly if not centralized 31:34.680 --> 31:39.320 It's a centralized mindset and a technique that is always here 31:39.320 --> 31:44.720 And I'm wondering if in your mind it's coordinated from somewhere, you know 31:45.040 --> 31:53.640 You see madam, you know Franklin scandal with Boys Town and so on and then you got Epstein files. There's just way too much 31:55.500 --> 31:57.200 Rhyming you feel me 31:58.000 --> 32:03.260 Yes, and as I said, it's our political system and and who perpetrates it 32:03.260 --> 32:08.900 I think some dark malignant corner of our intelligence perpetrates it and I do believe that 32:09.700 --> 32:12.580 Jeffrey Epstein and the pimps in the Franklin scandal 32:12.580 --> 32:19.780 They were an extension of that dark malignant corner of our intelligence that compromises people 32:21.200 --> 32:28.280 That's the answer that I wanted to know. I mean you think that there is a you know compromise because they can 32:28.280 --> 32:34.780 You know, yeah, why not? You know, you know a billion dollars gets you a long way in corruption 32:34.780 --> 32:38.960 You know to get your other gazillion dollars. I know by the way a war with Iran 32:38.960 --> 32:44.400 So I'm I'm what is the the the next step in this as 32:44.400 --> 32:50.480 Have you employed AI to go through all of the Epstein files that have been released? 32:50.780 --> 32:58.200 You're waiting for others that you know is there to be released the unredaction of somewhat the release of these Epstein files now 32:58.200 --> 33:03.640 How does that play in to your mindset of the past and what the future is going to be? 33:03.640 --> 33:06.400 How it's going to affect the midterms before you go 33:06.400 --> 33:12.820 I want you to sum this all up now with these releases and are you waiting for more? I 33:12.820 --> 33:14.380 Think the releases show 33:15.140 --> 33:21.240 how evil some of these guys are there's there's talk about torture and 33:23.720 --> 33:27.180 Gene editing and all all kinds of 33:29.000 --> 33:32.420 Transhumanism cloning. I mean these guys 33:33.640 --> 33:37.320 Are up to some very nefarious stuff. I 33:37.320 --> 33:43.400 Don't know if there's gonna be a next tranche of documents that are gonna be released according to the Trump administration. There's not 33:43.400 --> 33:46.080 the Trump administration has been 33:46.780 --> 33:47.860 less than 33:48.470 --> 33:50.500 honorable about this and 33:50.500 --> 33:57.820 But the documents that are released really do show how evil the Jeffrey Epstein Network could be 33:58.600 --> 34:00.000 Now that said 34:00.560 --> 34:03.420 We didn't even need this this tranche of documents 34:04.480 --> 34:06.200 to start getting indictments 34:07.280 --> 34:08.720 The Epstein Procures 34:08.720 --> 34:10.460 Sarah Kellan 34:10.460 --> 34:13.920 Adriana Ross Leslie Roth Nadia Marcinkova 34:14.820 --> 34:20.480 They knew about this entire network. They know who the perps were they know who the victims were 34:20.480 --> 34:25.060 They know who was blackmail those women the recruiters 34:25.060 --> 34:27.600 knew everything and 34:27.600 --> 34:32.040 All as you would have to and we could have done this 10 years ago. All is you have to do is 34:33.600 --> 34:36.520 And panel a non corrupt grand jury and 34:37.180 --> 34:42.880 indict them on multiple counts of child trafficking because they're guilty of multiple constant trial child trafficking and 34:43.680 --> 34:46.820 As I said earlier, that's a heavy sentence 15 to life 34:46.820 --> 34:53.540 And they would roll over on the on the perps and a heartbeat because in one of those documents that was released 34:53.540 --> 34:57.500 Sarah Kellan the main henchwoman after going Maxwell 34:58.100 --> 35:01.180 She wanted to make a deal with the feds 35:01.800 --> 35:05.740 She wanted a non-prosecution agreement and she would have provided the feds with everything 35:05.740 --> 35:11.000 But the feds didn't make that deal with her because they were recovering this up. So 35:11.940 --> 35:17.020 Now we don't need any more documents. We didn't even need this latest tranche of documents 35:17.020 --> 35:23.140 We just need a Department of Justice that has the will to indict the recruiters 35:23.540 --> 35:25.680 To indict the perpetrators 35:26.380 --> 35:30.920 With the information that has been gleaned from the perhears and recruiters 35:30.920 --> 35:36.980 And we know of lots of victims and we just have to protect them. It'd be kind of like a mafia 35:37.620 --> 35:39.820 rico indictment where the 35:40.500 --> 35:45.680 The feds generally go for the the small fries and the small fries lead to the big fries 35:45.680 --> 35:48.360 And then the witnesses are protected who 35:48.360 --> 35:56.760 Testify against now they're going to get some low-level scapegoat or something before you go bondy. I'm telling you how it can work 35:56.760 --> 35:59.380 I'm telling you how this can happen 36:00.160 --> 36:03.660 Thank you bondy patel bonjino 36:04.340 --> 36:04.880 were they 36:05.700 --> 36:06.900 always compromised 36:06.900 --> 36:12.880 Did they get compromised going in are they separate personalities? They part of the same thing 36:12.880 --> 36:15.980 It seems you know, we were really hopeful 36:16.600 --> 36:20.020 Them coming in something was going to happen and i'm 36:20.800 --> 36:22.380 What's your grade for them? 36:23.220 --> 36:24.920 Well, I mean they've all failed 36:25.900 --> 36:33.000 Pam bondy did say though that there was footage of jeffrey hebsting molesting underage girls 36:33.400 --> 36:40.040 But now she's recanted that so the patel and bondy have just done a lot of lying 36:40.740 --> 36:42.820 Our only chance at this point 36:42.820 --> 36:51.680 I believe is ebsting justice and I want your audience to really check out ebsting justice what ebsting justice wants is a 36:52.280 --> 36:53.660 independent congressional commission 36:54.200 --> 36:58.080 And independent congressional commissions, they don't need a presidential signature 36:58.080 --> 37:01.000 they do need a majority in the house and a majority in the senate 37:02.780 --> 37:07.160 And please check out our website ebsting justice dot com. We have webinars 37:07.560 --> 37:11.240 We can show people how this movement is progressing 37:11.960 --> 37:12.300 And 37:13.000 --> 37:16.720 It's the only way and I think that with ebsting and these documents 37:17.400 --> 37:22.940 It's going to be the best bet in our lifetime and actually maybe the best bet 37:23.600 --> 37:24.240 ever 37:24.900 --> 37:31.720 To really change our government and and flush the the blackmail and the compromising down the toilet 37:33.280 --> 37:36.960 You think so I I'm wondering, you know 37:38.360 --> 37:41.140 With great influence and power 37:42.060 --> 37:42.640 Babe 37:43.270 --> 37:45.120 Them those won't leave us alone are 37:45.640 --> 37:51.450 Are given government in general the bad name they deserve in my opinion, but I mean it's it's 37:52.500 --> 37:53.620 Is it fixable? 37:54.180 --> 37:56.500 I I don't see it 37:56.500 --> 38:00.640 You have the innate either we try to fix it or we just go off the cliff 38:01.200 --> 38:03.940 Or our leaders just take us off the cliff you I mean 38:04.720 --> 38:06.040 if you do if you want 38:07.020 --> 38:12.260 Your children, I don't know if you've got children or grandchildren if you want them to go off the cliff or children 12 grandchildren 38:12.260 --> 38:15.520 I'm invested. Okay. So if you want them to go off the cliff 38:16.100 --> 38:17.700 Go, you know, don't do anything 38:18.180 --> 38:21.500 But if you want to do something come to ebsting justice dot com 38:21.500 --> 38:25.620 You can be cynical and say nothing's going to get done. Well at that point 38:25.620 --> 38:31.140 What kind of fate are your children and your grandchildren gonna have so no, I'm not I'm not this 38:31.740 --> 38:37.140 Counting uh doing ebsting justice. I got it up here. That's why I want to talk to you. We're pimping and promote it 38:37.740 --> 38:41.860 The thing is is that to what end to make america great again 38:41.860 --> 38:44.320 I'm like you got to define each one of these words make 38:44.320 --> 38:51.160 You know, what kind of coercion are you going to do america america in her interest america ink america 38:51.160 --> 38:55.320 Geography american people america ideology. I mean, what are you talking about? 38:55.620 --> 39:01.020 You know great. What is that? You're your missile penis is bigger than kim young grandson 39:01.020 --> 39:07.780 All these words have to mean something so when I we're gonna fix it fix what? 39:08.400 --> 39:13.900 You know, I think we fix human beings humanity ebsting justice helps with that 39:13.900 --> 39:20.040 I'm like for doing that. It has to be accountability people need to be perp walk 39:20.040 --> 39:25.120 You got to be under the law that we put for ourselves. They have to be accountable to 39:25.120 --> 39:26.500 I'm all about that 39:27.000 --> 39:31.520 But to think that you're going to clean up a government structure 39:31.520 --> 39:38.540 With you know, the constitution was being eroded before the ink was freaking dry because of this mindset 39:38.540 --> 39:40.220 Because of this evil 39:41.080 --> 39:48.520 Sociopathic we don't care no empathy mindset. It's a republic and it's a you know for a moral people 39:48.520 --> 39:50.660 And it's wholly inadequate for 39:51.300 --> 39:52.500 non moral people 39:52.500 --> 39:54.460 Well, we can do nothing about it 39:54.460 --> 39:56.680 and just let our 39:57.660 --> 40:03.000 Society to send into entropy and the middle class get completely disintegrated accountability 40:03.660 --> 40:04.980 What are you looking for? 40:05.720 --> 40:12.940 People are signing up at ebsting justice to accomplish. What I need accountability. I want perp walks like you say 40:12.940 --> 40:18.760 Well, that's what we're about is accountability. We're about justice. We're about transparency and we're about accountability 40:20.060 --> 40:23.740 I'm and then we have we have we have a plan 40:24.480 --> 40:29.500 Most people don't have a plan. We have a plan man. I want to hear your plan go 40:30.400 --> 40:31.420 Why don't 40:32.620 --> 40:39.780 I'm gonna to leave now, but you can go to our website ebsting justice calm and see our plan and that entails 40:40.460 --> 40:43.600 We have facebook groups by state and we're having 40:44.460 --> 40:50.600 Pressure put on those respective legislators from those respective states and there's other things 40:50.600 --> 40:55.000 If you get involved with ebsting justice, there's a lot of things that you can do 40:55.540 --> 40:58.260 To bring about justice transparency and accountability 41:01.480 --> 41:05.580 Ebsting justice.com. Thanks for spending a little bit extra time. I know you got to go 41:05.580 --> 41:09.220 You know nick. I'm a fan. You know, I'm rooting for you 41:09.220 --> 41:11.380 I want you to but i'm not thinking we're gonna 41:11.380 --> 41:16.500 You know fix delegate and authority to someone else to rule us. That's not my mindset 41:16.500 --> 41:24.380 But there has to be accountability for the damage that has been done to individuals a society and to out these sons of bitches 41:24.380 --> 41:29.140 Because it is a plague my entire adult life 41:29.590 --> 41:36.080 Of which you've been covering which is why I was excited to talk to you about the continuity of a philosophy 41:36.080 --> 41:38.140 The evil we're up against 41:38.720 --> 41:43.000 That's what you've helped us understand and I appreciate it. Thank you 41:43.000 --> 41:46.000 And I've given you an antidote to it too 41:46.540 --> 41:49.160 And it's up to your audience and you whether or not 41:49.720 --> 41:51.860 You at least want to check that antidote out 41:52.400 --> 41:57.140 So i'm hip. That's why we're here promote ebsting justice.com 41:57.700 --> 42:01.860 And somebody you know steering this effort that knows 42:02.410 --> 42:04.060 And hopefully we've demonstrated that 42:05.320 --> 42:07.880 Okay, you too. Thanks, man. Bye