WEBVTT 00:45.490 --> 00:48.930 What's up, y'all? Welcome to the What's With Podcast. 00:49.170 --> 00:52.510 I'm your host, Wheezy, and I'm joined by my lovely friend, 00:52.830 --> 00:55.390 Miss Ashley, from Think, Change, Repeat. 00:55.770 --> 00:56.530 How are you, young lady? 00:57.750 --> 00:59.290 I am doing very well. 00:59.490 --> 01:01.150 I'm very happy to be here 01:01.150 --> 01:02.930 and looking forward to the show. 01:03.350 --> 01:04.070 Thanks for having me. 01:04.670 --> 01:05.110 Absolutely. 01:05.450 --> 01:06.950 I hope you're doing rather exquisite 01:06.950 --> 01:08.810 and I hope everyone else is as well. 01:10.910 --> 01:15.170 And so today we will be covering a subject 01:15.170 --> 01:17.410 that I've never touched on in all the years 01:17.410 --> 01:20.510 that I've done my podcast and that is Vietnam. 01:22.870 --> 01:24.190 And you and I, 01:24.990 --> 01:27.410 well, you came on the show a couple of weeks back 01:27.410 --> 01:30.710 on the call in and I enjoyed you. 01:31.430 --> 01:33.890 You blew a lot of people's minds. 01:34.650 --> 01:37.010 A lot of people in the Spotify's and everywhere else 01:37.010 --> 01:39.010 are like, damn, actually came in and kicked some ass. 01:40.130 --> 01:44.070 So for sure, I was like, we got to get another show 01:44.070 --> 01:45.970 where I want to feature you. 01:46.410 --> 01:50.630 And if you enjoy Ashley's takes and views, 01:50.890 --> 01:54.830 I have her email and her Twitter, her ex, 01:55.190 --> 01:56.770 down below so you can follow her. 01:57.050 --> 01:59.530 And we'll see if she wants to start a podcast 01:59.530 --> 02:02.170 down the road and you can follow her there. 02:02.430 --> 02:04.890 But Ashley, for those that maybe didn't catch you 02:04.890 --> 02:07.430 last time around, let us know a little bit about you, 02:07.490 --> 02:09.090 how you went down here, 02:09.310 --> 02:12.110 how you got into Vietnam and all that good jazz. 02:13.430 --> 02:15.030 Yeah, so thank you so much. 02:15.030 --> 02:17.070 And I really appreciate the positive feedback. 02:17.230 --> 02:20.170 If you have negative feedback, you can share that, 02:20.250 --> 02:21.150 but please be nice. 02:21.390 --> 02:24.390 I will tell you that on one of our unknowns shorts, 02:24.690 --> 02:27.530 somebody, and I was actually talking about Lincoln, 02:27.750 --> 02:28.330 believe it or not. 02:28.450 --> 02:30.730 And they said, you look like Sid the Sloth. 02:32.750 --> 02:33.230 So... 02:33.230 --> 02:34.490 Who the hell Sid the Sloth? 02:35.290 --> 02:37.090 Sid the Sloth is from Ice Age. 02:37.690 --> 02:38.270 The cartoon. 02:40.070 --> 02:41.510 The three-toed sloth? 02:42.150 --> 02:43.170 Yes, that's it. 02:43.290 --> 02:44.090 That's it, the sloth. 02:46.190 --> 02:48.030 But yeah, so be nice. 02:48.470 --> 02:49.450 But yeah, be nice. 02:49.890 --> 02:50.910 And that's the thing, too. 02:52.450 --> 02:56.070 A lot of people, a lot of people say weird stuff. 02:58.310 --> 03:00.010 I maybe I could talk about it later, 03:00.010 --> 03:03.230 but I made a call out for other people 03:03.230 --> 03:05.770 that like to show to give some positive reviews on Spotify. 03:05.770 --> 03:07.710 And then a lot of people on Spotify did. 03:08.270 --> 03:11.630 Only a handful did on on Apple iTunes, where we need it. 03:11.890 --> 03:14.150 But someone left a comment saying, 03:15.070 --> 03:18.550 Weezy, I like your content, but too many F-bombs 03:18.550 --> 03:19.530 make you sound retarded. 03:20.570 --> 03:24.190 That I mean, I just basically said that I'm tired of hearing 03:24.190 --> 03:26.710 whiney ass bitches make that same complaint. 03:26.830 --> 03:30.350 And then he leaves a comment saying the exact same thing. 03:30.990 --> 03:32.050 So people are knuckleheads. 03:32.390 --> 03:33.250 And that's the thing. 03:33.770 --> 03:35.170 I wouldn't take anything personal. 03:35.650 --> 03:36.470 These people don't know you. 03:36.470 --> 03:37.410 They don't. 03:37.910 --> 03:41.310 That the way I look at it as a creator, when someone, 03:41.990 --> 03:43.450 especially when they don't show a name, 03:44.030 --> 03:45.930 they don't show a profile picture. 03:46.090 --> 03:46.890 I don't give a shit. 03:47.030 --> 03:48.590 They could say whatever the hell they want. 03:48.690 --> 03:49.890 It doesn't do nothing to me. 03:50.210 --> 03:55.050 So that's my little word of advice for you, Ashley, is 03:55.050 --> 03:57.450 especially if you can't see any name or nothing, 03:57.650 --> 04:00.190 who gives a shit what they say or think, 04:00.370 --> 04:03.270 just let it roll off your back and move on. 04:03.530 --> 04:04.570 Yeah, that's very true. 04:04.570 --> 04:06.730 What I care about is presenting information 04:06.730 --> 04:08.590 that maybe people haven't heard about 04:09.110 --> 04:11.870 and maybe looking at something in a different way. 04:12.490 --> 04:13.350 That's really it. 04:13.490 --> 04:14.990 So if somebody does have thoughts on that, 04:15.010 --> 04:18.190 of something that may be of note to me or correcting me, 04:18.310 --> 04:20.530 I'm very, very happy to to hear that 04:20.530 --> 04:22.610 because I want to be presenting correct information 04:23.250 --> 04:26.490 and say when I'm speculating, say what we know 04:27.390 --> 04:30.290 and be accurate in what I'm saying. 04:30.450 --> 04:31.890 That's the most important thing to me 04:31.890 --> 04:34.890 and exposing things or having conversations 04:34.890 --> 04:37.370 that we aren't exposed to very often. 04:38.870 --> 04:41.870 And another thing that's really important to me 04:41.870 --> 04:45.370 is making some connections that we may not see. 04:45.530 --> 04:47.770 So a lot of times we look at these situations 04:47.770 --> 04:51.430 as very isolated, for example, Vietnam, 04:51.630 --> 04:52.950 that we're going to be discussing today 04:52.950 --> 04:56.090 in the Phoenix program, that we I feel like 04:56.090 --> 04:59.070 we look at that as an isolated event. 04:59.070 --> 05:01.830 But actually it is so fundamental 05:01.830 --> 05:05.030 for so many things that we still see today. 05:05.030 --> 05:06.870 It's building on what we saw before that 05:06.870 --> 05:08.190 in World War I and World War II. 05:09.110 --> 05:11.450 And but there are so many connections 05:11.450 --> 05:15.250 to all of the propaganda, 05:15.690 --> 05:18.370 to the people that are involved, the old boys, 05:18.610 --> 05:20.990 the people qui bono who benefits, 05:21.170 --> 05:23.790 the people that benefit from what is being done 05:23.790 --> 05:25.750 from the destruction that was brought in Vietnam 05:25.750 --> 05:26.630 in a million different ways. 05:27.230 --> 05:30.090 So I care about that learning and making connections 05:30.090 --> 05:32.530 and I am still learning, you know, 05:32.550 --> 05:35.510 but that's my goal is to become more and more knowledgeable 05:35.510 --> 05:36.910 on this stuff and make connections 05:36.910 --> 05:37.970 that maybe other people, 05:38.030 --> 05:40.030 even in the alternative space are not seeing. 05:41.470 --> 05:42.330 Yeah, perfect. 05:42.790 --> 05:45.530 Yeah, like I stated, this is a subject 05:45.530 --> 05:46.730 that I didn't know much about. 05:47.170 --> 05:51.110 I mean, I was a kid in the early 90s 05:52.830 --> 05:54.930 and in the early 90s I remember 05:56.630 --> 05:58.290 having a football coach. 05:58.430 --> 06:00.370 He was probably in his early 40s back then. 06:00.870 --> 06:02.930 I mean, he must have served in Vietnam 06:02.930 --> 06:04.510 back then in the early 90s. 06:04.930 --> 06:08.330 And, you know, he was jacked up and ripped 06:08.330 --> 06:10.690 and he'd be like, thug on squats! 06:11.890 --> 06:14.650 And just get all intense and say, we would laugh, 06:14.850 --> 06:16.950 we're kids, what the fuck is wrong with this dude? 06:17.450 --> 06:21.210 And now this week when I was hearing Saigon, 06:21.370 --> 06:22.390 Saigon, I'm like, that motherfucker 06:22.390 --> 06:25.370 was probably a hardened dude from those days. 06:25.370 --> 06:27.730 So when he was getting intense in football practice, 06:27.890 --> 06:30.150 he wasn't messing around, he was probably dead serious. 06:30.790 --> 06:31.230 Exactly. 06:32.050 --> 06:35.750 I don't know, I didn't realize how fucked up 06:36.370 --> 06:37.890 things in Vietnam were. 06:38.450 --> 06:41.010 I didn't, I never even heard of the Phoenix program. 06:41.670 --> 06:44.390 And so we're gonna get into a little bit about that today. 06:44.590 --> 06:45.790 So I just wanna give a caveat 06:45.790 --> 06:47.370 before I let it off to you, Ashley, 06:47.930 --> 06:50.150 that there's probably gonna be some hard shit 06:50.690 --> 06:51.750 talked about today. 06:52.350 --> 06:54.150 If you don't have the stomach for it, 06:54.890 --> 06:55.670 tune out. 06:56.130 --> 06:57.690 So I don't wanna hear no complaining, 06:57.870 --> 06:59.930 no bitching at the moment, I'm giving you a warning. 07:01.050 --> 07:03.510 The Vietnam shit is dark, it's ugly, 07:04.110 --> 07:07.150 it's fucked up for both sides, for the Americans 07:07.790 --> 07:09.950 and the Vietnamese that never get talked about. 07:10.910 --> 07:14.590 So there you go, I'm giving you guys a fair warning, 07:15.250 --> 07:18.130 y'all don't like it, shut the stream off right now. 07:18.590 --> 07:20.450 All right, Ashley, let's hear what, 07:20.730 --> 07:22.870 how you got down this rabbit hole, if you don't mind. 07:25.290 --> 07:26.830 Yes, I don't mind. 07:27.190 --> 07:30.990 So it's a little bit of a strange way 07:30.990 --> 07:32.750 that I became interested in the subject. 07:32.910 --> 07:34.790 So obviously there's a lot of different topics 07:34.790 --> 07:37.850 that in the truth space, I realize is being important 07:37.850 --> 07:40.650 to have at least some, you know, a jack of all trades, 07:40.790 --> 07:42.330 you know, a little bit about them all. 07:42.710 --> 07:45.770 And I really didn't know very much about Vietnam. 07:46.490 --> 07:49.790 And one of the things that I think about from that 07:49.790 --> 07:53.370 was when we were in school, you and I are the same age 07:53.990 --> 07:55.650 we, what did you know? 07:56.170 --> 07:58.750 You know, and I'm asking you, what did we know? 07:58.950 --> 08:00.230 What did we think it was about? 08:00.330 --> 08:03.470 Or do you even remember hearing what it was about period? 08:04.810 --> 08:08.490 So my recollection as a young kid hearing about Vietnam 08:09.290 --> 08:14.150 was just that it was a war 08:14.150 --> 08:17.470 that eventually the people got pissed off 08:18.290 --> 08:20.250 and became anti-war. 08:21.390 --> 08:23.190 That's the very little bit, 08:23.190 --> 08:25.070 but it never made sense in my head. 08:25.150 --> 08:27.830 I'm like, what the fuck were we doing in Asia anyways? 08:28.370 --> 08:31.410 I mean, that's so far away, away from everything else. 08:31.630 --> 08:33.870 Like, I never got an answer to it. 08:33.870 --> 08:34.850 I always wondered it. 08:35.370 --> 08:39.750 But I guess I never even went that extra mile 08:39.750 --> 08:43.250 to figure out why, what the hell were we doing over there 08:43.250 --> 08:44.090 to begin with? 08:44.750 --> 08:49.690 And so yeah, that's as far as it went for me anyways. 08:50.690 --> 08:51.210 Exactly. 08:51.610 --> 08:53.890 And I think that if someone would have asked me, 08:54.150 --> 08:56.610 I would have probably said communism, 08:57.170 --> 08:58.130 the threat of communism. 08:58.670 --> 09:03.290 So to me, that just illustrated the lack of information 09:03.290 --> 09:05.030 that we were given on this subject 09:05.030 --> 09:06.570 as something that's very fundamental 09:06.570 --> 09:08.110 to what we still see today. 09:08.110 --> 09:10.570 And I think that that's probably for a reason 09:10.570 --> 09:11.830 because we know a lot of the people 09:11.830 --> 09:13.770 that orchestrate these types of events 09:13.770 --> 09:16.290 are the same people who are also meddling 09:16.290 --> 09:18.970 in the banking affairs of regular people. 09:18.970 --> 09:22.810 They're meddling in our education system. 09:23.330 --> 09:26.170 And like you said, you didn't really know that much about it. 09:26.250 --> 09:28.470 And even if you're interested in being aware 09:28.470 --> 09:31.930 of what is happening, this is, in my opinion, 09:32.090 --> 09:34.110 part of the psychological operation 09:34.110 --> 09:37.650 is that it is too difficult to actually keep track 09:37.650 --> 09:38.590 of what is what. 09:39.570 --> 09:42.570 It is very difficult for a regular person 09:42.570 --> 09:46.310 to be very well-versed unless you put in a lot of effort 09:46.310 --> 09:49.550 into figuring out what happened in these major world events. 09:50.630 --> 09:52.530 And I do think that that's intentional 09:52.530 --> 09:55.190 and probably especially intentional 09:57.410 --> 10:00.030 because of the tie-ins that we still see today. 10:00.670 --> 10:02.930 So that's one thing that I just wanna ask people 10:02.930 --> 10:06.270 to think about is what were you told, what did you know? 10:06.310 --> 10:07.890 I see that you have some people chiming in 10:07.890 --> 10:09.610 and yeah, a lot of people know 10:10.070 --> 10:11.150 kind of what's going on there, 10:11.150 --> 10:12.930 but why were we there actually? 10:13.510 --> 10:17.390 So before I move into how I got on the subject, 10:17.510 --> 10:19.290 I will just say that the official narrative 10:19.290 --> 10:21.730 was the domino theory of communism. 10:21.850 --> 10:25.890 And this was the theory that was spouted by Henry Kissinger, 10:26.450 --> 10:28.410 the Dulles brothers, people of that ilk 10:28.410 --> 10:31.770 that they always used the threat of communism 10:32.450 --> 10:35.270 as the boogeyman, the other. 10:35.830 --> 10:37.790 And it's really interesting too 10:37.790 --> 10:40.090 because the Dulles brothers and Alan Dulles, 10:40.090 --> 10:41.250 they were obviously involved 10:41.250 --> 10:43.910 in the government milieu in World War II 10:43.910 --> 10:46.810 and they still, although he's known, 10:47.330 --> 10:48.530 Alan Dulles and the Dulles brothers 10:48.530 --> 10:51.430 are known to be sympathetic to the Nazi cause, 10:52.070 --> 10:56.530 but they were working for the United States, 10:56.630 --> 10:58.390 the United States was allied with the USSR, 10:58.670 --> 10:59.790 which was a communist country. 10:59.950 --> 11:01.610 So it doesn't really make sense 11:01.610 --> 11:03.290 and maybe that's part of the point as well 11:03.290 --> 11:05.510 is that people just didn't question that. 11:05.590 --> 11:08.490 But ultimately we were told that it was about 11:09.050 --> 11:11.610 stopping the communism domino, okay? 11:12.310 --> 11:15.010 And then to get into how I came onto this subject, 11:15.150 --> 11:17.230 it's a little bit of a weird story, 11:17.910 --> 11:19.330 but I think it's interesting 11:19.330 --> 11:20.630 because there's a couple of interesting 11:20.630 --> 11:21.630 talking points in here. 11:21.770 --> 11:25.210 First of all, I'm from Western North Carolina 11:25.210 --> 11:28.270 and almost 26 years ago in February, 11:28.490 --> 11:29.590 it will be 26 years, 11:29.950 --> 11:32.810 a little girl by the name of Asha Degree went missing. 11:34.030 --> 11:37.310 And recently over the last say year and a half, 11:37.310 --> 11:39.750 there's been a little bit of activity in that case, 11:39.810 --> 11:40.570 but I never forgot. 11:40.690 --> 11:43.850 So I didn't know her and she wasn't even that close 11:43.850 --> 11:47.130 to me geographically maybe 30, 45 minutes away, 11:47.550 --> 11:50.570 but this was a story that always stuck with me 11:50.570 --> 11:52.190 that it was an unsolved case. 11:52.190 --> 11:53.830 And a lot of people are very interested 11:54.430 --> 11:56.210 from the people that were locals there 11:56.210 --> 11:59.210 to people that are interested in true crime stories 11:59.210 --> 11:59.990 and what happened. 12:00.090 --> 12:03.070 So with this activity over the last couple of years, 12:03.130 --> 12:04.350 I started looking into it 12:04.350 --> 12:05.890 and somehow some way on TikTok, 12:05.890 --> 12:07.850 I ended up finding this woman 12:07.850 --> 12:09.810 who was from Western North Carolina 12:09.810 --> 12:12.010 and she was talking about a cult 12:12.010 --> 12:14.390 that is located in Western North Carolina. 12:14.850 --> 12:16.290 I had never heard of them 12:16.290 --> 12:17.990 and I was a little bit surprised by that, 12:18.010 --> 12:21.490 but she starts going into some detail about the cult. 12:21.610 --> 12:24.110 And one of the charges that has been leveled 12:24.110 --> 12:25.510 against them was human trafficking. 12:25.890 --> 12:28.790 So I thought perhaps there was a connection 12:28.790 --> 12:30.430 with this little missing girl 12:30.430 --> 12:32.630 because it's about 30 minutes away from the, 12:32.830 --> 12:34.710 you know, the setup, the base of this cult. 12:35.450 --> 12:36.770 And so I just started doing 12:36.770 --> 12:38.230 a little bit more digging into the cult. 12:38.350 --> 12:41.610 And I don't know, they're probably not related at all, 12:41.610 --> 12:43.270 but this was just one of the rabbit holes 12:43.270 --> 12:43.930 that I was going to. 12:44.150 --> 12:47.290 This particular cult is called Word of Faith Fellowship. 12:49.210 --> 12:52.590 And they have some of the charges for human trafficking, 12:52.690 --> 12:55.010 but it seems like or at least the information 12:55.010 --> 12:59.650 that's allowed to be out is that they were getting, 13:00.090 --> 13:02.730 they had a base of operations in Brazil 13:02.730 --> 13:04.390 and they were getting Brazilian, 13:04.710 --> 13:06.070 young Brazilian people to come up 13:06.070 --> 13:07.190 and basically work for them. 13:07.290 --> 13:09.430 And they were taking their passports when they got there. 13:09.490 --> 13:11.590 So that would be the accusation of human trafficking 13:11.590 --> 13:13.570 versus what we would normally think of 13:13.570 --> 13:17.910 in maybe a McGowan or an Epstein or a Dutro sense. 13:18.530 --> 13:19.990 But I was starting to look in that. 13:20.190 --> 13:22.010 And one of the things about this church 13:22.010 --> 13:24.470 is that they also had accusations leveled 13:24.470 --> 13:26.250 against them from this girl online 13:26.250 --> 13:27.210 who was from that area, 13:27.210 --> 13:30.670 was that they were involved with trafficking 13:30.670 --> 13:32.170 in arms and drugs. 13:32.970 --> 13:35.290 And so this really perked my ears up 13:35.290 --> 13:37.310 because so often these days, 13:37.350 --> 13:38.490 it seems that there's a connection. 13:38.690 --> 13:41.390 Anytime you see especially human trafficking, 13:41.770 --> 13:43.450 drugs or weapons trafficking 13:43.450 --> 13:45.830 or whatever combination you have 13:45.830 --> 13:50.010 that there is likely some intelligence connection there. 13:50.350 --> 13:53.950 And what started me believing that 13:53.950 --> 13:56.490 in almost every cult that we see talked about 13:56.770 --> 13:59.650 that there is some sort of intelligence connection 13:59.650 --> 14:02.330 was rotting jewels, Dana Duda's work, 14:02.650 --> 14:04.410 talking about the process church, 14:04.690 --> 14:07.310 their tentacles and then that of Scientology 14:08.010 --> 14:09.330 in a lot of different ways. 14:09.470 --> 14:11.530 And of course we know that that ties in 14:11.530 --> 14:14.090 with Charles Manson and Dave McGowan's work 14:14.090 --> 14:15.130 covering the issues. 14:16.150 --> 14:18.250 And so that was kind of what I was thinking. 14:18.410 --> 14:21.870 So there was this person who had been called 14:21.870 --> 14:25.250 by this girl online, a weapons trafficker 14:25.250 --> 14:26.990 and his name was Robert Van Buskirk. 14:27.650 --> 14:30.770 And he was a green beret from Vietnam. 14:31.530 --> 14:34.130 And he was also involved in prison ministry. 14:34.330 --> 14:36.390 So this was another connection that I had made 14:36.390 --> 14:40.950 that there's often because in the mind control milieu 14:40.950 --> 14:43.750 in the experiments that they had been doing 14:43.750 --> 14:46.110 and working on, the Bureau of Prisons 14:46.110 --> 14:47.530 is heavily involved in this. 14:47.630 --> 14:49.350 And we know that a lot of times 14:49.350 --> 14:51.410 they are going after the vulnerable people 14:51.410 --> 14:52.810 and that does include prisoners. 14:53.450 --> 14:57.310 So I had, I was just trying to figure out 14:57.310 --> 14:59.230 if there's anything that I could find about this guy. 14:59.450 --> 15:01.510 And turns out he did have a connection 15:01.510 --> 15:02.710 with a CNN article. 15:04.470 --> 15:06.490 The journals actually lost her job over this 15:06.490 --> 15:09.350 whenever maybe CNN was trying to still be legitimate. 15:09.690 --> 15:13.470 She was covering a story about Operation Tailwinds 15:13.470 --> 15:17.710 which is where this green beret 15:17.710 --> 15:21.450 and a couple of others said that the CIA 15:22.190 --> 15:25.190 sprayed or the military sprayed sarin gas 15:25.190 --> 15:28.850 on American soldiers because they were defectors. 15:29.210 --> 15:31.610 And this story was discredited. 15:31.930 --> 15:34.490 And so he ended up retracting his story 15:34.490 --> 15:37.230 and the journalists ended up basically losing her career 15:37.230 --> 15:39.370 which they call into the bus all for journalists. 15:39.630 --> 15:41.870 If you are talking about a subject 15:41.870 --> 15:43.090 they don't want you talking about, 15:43.850 --> 15:47.050 there's a book on this and you will lose your career. 15:47.190 --> 15:49.410 So that's another way that you know the fixes end 15:49.410 --> 15:50.950 because you're not allowed to talk about 15:50.950 --> 15:52.630 what they don't want you talking about. 15:53.310 --> 15:55.450 So the other connection with this 15:55.450 --> 15:57.770 was that this was happening in Laos. 15:58.050 --> 16:00.550 The military was not supposed to be operating in Laos 16:00.550 --> 16:03.630 but we know that the CIA was operating in Laos 16:03.630 --> 16:04.370 during this time. 16:04.790 --> 16:07.230 So that's another correct correlation 16:07.230 --> 16:09.910 between this green beret, Robert Van Buskirk 16:09.910 --> 16:13.990 and the CIA and a cult in Western North Carolina 16:13.990 --> 16:15.790 that he was supposed to have been dealing with 16:15.790 --> 16:17.250 and prison ministry. 16:18.030 --> 16:19.850 So having said all of that 16:19.850 --> 16:22.910 I was having a conversation with my friend, Wizard 16:23.550 --> 16:25.570 and he said, if you're interested in that 16:25.570 --> 16:26.910 there's a book that you need to check out. 16:27.670 --> 16:30.590 So he tells me about the book, The Perfect War. 16:31.230 --> 16:36.490 And that was really how I became very, very interested 16:36.490 --> 16:39.270 in the topic of Vietnam 16:39.270 --> 16:42.610 and then began making connections 16:42.610 --> 16:44.010 with what we still see today. 16:44.530 --> 16:47.330 And all of the many atrocities 16:47.330 --> 16:50.730 and things that happened there that we don't talk about. 16:50.930 --> 16:53.510 And something else that occurred to me on this issue 16:53.510 --> 16:56.590 is that we see and talk about a lot 16:56.590 --> 16:58.630 especially in the alternative media space. 16:58.790 --> 17:01.850 A lot of people are talking about the genocide in Gaza 17:01.850 --> 17:03.530 how it was blown to smithereens 17:03.530 --> 17:04.930 how they completely destroyed that 17:04.930 --> 17:06.910 but they did that in Vietnam as well. 17:07.350 --> 17:10.870 And exactly what they're saying they wanna do in Gaza 17:10.870 --> 17:15.230 the Trump towers, all of these kind of ridiculous things 17:15.230 --> 17:17.850 and basically repopulate it, rebuild it in their own image. 17:17.910 --> 17:19.530 That's what they wanted for Vietnam as well. 17:21.170 --> 17:23.330 So I know that was a long and rambling story 17:23.330 --> 17:25.930 but there's a lot of some of these connections 17:25.930 --> 17:27.190 and just my thought process 17:27.190 --> 17:29.950 that I kind of wanted to share about how I got there. 17:30.850 --> 17:31.770 Yeah, that's awesome. 17:33.230 --> 17:37.670 It's a, that was probably my one of the big wide 17:38.370 --> 17:39.810 or eye openers this week 17:39.810 --> 17:42.890 when you gave me those links to that conversation 17:42.890 --> 17:44.570 with that gentleman that wrote that book. 17:45.250 --> 17:47.310 What was the name of the book, The Perfect War? 17:47.850 --> 17:48.810 The Perfect War. 17:49.290 --> 17:50.230 Yeah, so. 17:50.770 --> 17:54.070 Techno War in Vietnam and this is by James William Gibson. 17:55.010 --> 17:57.570 And if you want those links, let us know 17:57.570 --> 17:59.090 we can share those with you. 17:59.290 --> 18:01.670 He did a, I forget the. 18:01.950 --> 18:03.570 I'm gonna have to reach out to him, maybe I can. 18:04.390 --> 18:05.610 That would be absolutely amazing. 18:05.790 --> 18:08.170 He was so well spoken and such a gentle soul 18:09.050 --> 18:11.110 but this is the other thing I want to let people know. 18:11.250 --> 18:12.390 I'm not an expert on this. 18:12.450 --> 18:15.050 I am trying very hard to learn as much as I can 18:15.050 --> 18:17.970 but he was studying this subject for 10 years 18:17.970 --> 18:20.610 before he put his book out about it. 18:21.430 --> 18:23.530 Yeah, and we discussed this a little bit 18:23.530 --> 18:24.350 before we came on. 18:24.970 --> 18:27.750 You aren't, you wouldn't call yourself an expert or whatever 18:27.750 --> 18:30.410 but you've studied it pretty, pretty deep. 18:30.690 --> 18:32.470 This was a subject that you felt good. 18:32.890 --> 18:35.890 I told, you know, it's the same with my Lincoln stuff. 18:36.950 --> 18:39.950 I put a Lincoln show that I did with Monica up 18:39.950 --> 18:43.410 and I got a few comments like, God damn, dude, 18:43.430 --> 18:44.270 you should write a book. 18:44.570 --> 18:47.970 It's just that's how in depth I've gone into it. 18:48.030 --> 18:51.330 And so I go, maybe for you, this is Vietnam. 18:51.430 --> 18:54.570 And so you don't have to have no God damn fancy degree 18:54.570 --> 18:55.850 or any of that bullshit. 18:56.070 --> 18:59.690 If you really got into it and you know it, you know 19:01.750 --> 19:02.890 that's, that's good. 19:03.190 --> 19:05.170 I don't, I think it's overrated. 19:05.170 --> 19:08.430 You have to be an expert in this and you have to be an expert. 19:08.550 --> 19:09.350 You have to have a degree. 19:09.670 --> 19:10.590 Fuck all that shit. 19:10.770 --> 19:12.010 I don't believe in all that. 19:13.170 --> 19:15.590 And so this is a topic that's dear to you 19:15.590 --> 19:17.930 and I wanna, I wanna go over it. 19:18.290 --> 19:21.430 And I know you'll touch on it, but one of the things 19:21.430 --> 19:26.670 that was mind blowing for me going down this path this week 19:26.670 --> 19:29.130 the last few days was how, 19:29.970 --> 19:32.110 and I think you kind of hit it at the very beginning 19:32.110 --> 19:35.130 like how did, what did you know about Vietnam prior to this? 19:35.450 --> 19:36.910 And it was very little. 19:37.290 --> 19:41.450 I didn't realize that they were already meddling 19:41.450 --> 19:45.870 with Vietnam decades before they actually went 19:45.870 --> 19:48.450 into quote unquote Vietnam war mode. 19:48.730 --> 19:55.350 They were screwing in that country way before it started 19:55.350 --> 19:56.690 hitting the newspapers and whatnot. 19:56.970 --> 19:58.910 Yeah, it's really, really dark shit. 19:58.910 --> 20:02.470 And like you said, the tie-ins with what happened there 20:02.470 --> 20:04.670 to today with what's going on in Gaza, 20:05.210 --> 20:09.390 what's going on even in our, in here, in our country 20:09.390 --> 20:13.090 where, oh, that guy is a MS-13 gangbanger. 20:13.490 --> 20:15.010 We're gonna throw him to El Salvador. 20:15.570 --> 20:18.170 We're, you know, that guy is Antifa. 20:18.810 --> 20:20.350 We're gonna label him Antifa 20:20.350 --> 20:22.130 and we're gonna throw his ass in jail too. 20:22.830 --> 20:26.470 A lot of this shit stems from the Vietnam war days, man, 20:26.470 --> 20:28.930 with the Phoenix program. 20:29.610 --> 20:31.790 So I know you're gonna get into that, 20:31.810 --> 20:33.950 but I just wanna, I just wanna warm people up. 20:34.250 --> 20:35.990 This is why Vietnam is important. 20:36.910 --> 20:39.770 And yeah, unfortunately I never touched on it, 20:39.830 --> 20:41.990 but here we go better late than ever. 20:42.390 --> 20:44.150 So let's hear it, Ashley. 20:44.870 --> 20:47.470 Yeah, and I was excited that it wasn't something 20:47.470 --> 20:49.170 that you had talked about very much 20:49.170 --> 20:52.670 because I hope for you that this will now be 20:53.250 --> 20:55.030 adding to what you know 20:55.030 --> 20:58.130 and like another bullet point added to your thought process 20:58.130 --> 20:59.530 when you're evaluating things. 21:00.110 --> 21:04.570 And I think that it could really add to all the things 21:04.570 --> 21:05.250 that you already know 21:05.250 --> 21:06.870 and all the things that you already talk about. 21:08.550 --> 21:12.150 So, and I saw that somebody had mentioned in the chat 21:12.150 --> 21:14.110 and I'm sorry, I'm not paying attention to the chat. 21:14.190 --> 21:15.070 I'm trying to be on here, 21:16.750 --> 21:20.810 but they mentioned the Phoenix program by Douglas Valentine. 21:21.370 --> 21:24.750 And if you're looking for just an introduction, 21:25.010 --> 21:26.850 he does have a couple of interviews 21:26.850 --> 21:28.650 readily available on YouTube. 21:28.890 --> 21:31.250 So there's one with Geopolitics and Empire 21:31.250 --> 21:32.530 from about five years ago. 21:32.830 --> 21:34.370 Yeah, I listened to that one. 21:34.690 --> 21:36.950 So you guys know that me and Eddie O'Hare, 21:37.190 --> 21:38.830 he's my buddy, I love that guy. 21:39.110 --> 21:40.050 He's my good friend. 21:40.550 --> 21:43.170 And so Eddie O'Hare Moritz from Geopolitics and Empire 21:43.730 --> 21:46.170 did a podcast with Mr. Douglas Valentine. 21:46.930 --> 21:47.750 Excellent show. 21:47.910 --> 21:48.770 So if anyone's interested, 21:48.770 --> 21:50.970 we're just gonna give you guys a little taste. 21:51.530 --> 21:52.910 And like Ashley just said, 21:53.910 --> 21:56.990 hopefully it further makes you hungry, 21:57.470 --> 21:58.970 you know, hungry to learn more 21:58.970 --> 22:01.170 because I didn't know shit. 22:01.270 --> 22:02.330 And then when Ashley's like, 22:02.370 --> 22:04.250 hey, we're gonna do a show on this on Saturday. 22:04.830 --> 22:06.470 Okay, I better do my homework. 22:06.870 --> 22:10.870 And all week long, I've been going in, going out like, 22:11.370 --> 22:13.330 there was so much I didn't know. 22:13.710 --> 22:16.350 And so I hope this is what this show does today. 22:17.470 --> 22:20.110 It inspires you to learn more about it 22:20.110 --> 22:21.910 and see how it can relate, 22:22.110 --> 22:24.690 how you can relate it to what's going on today. 22:25.030 --> 22:26.290 You can't look at it like, oh yeah, 22:26.330 --> 22:28.730 well that shit's from the 60s and 70s, who cares? 22:29.250 --> 22:30.750 No, it's important today. 22:31.010 --> 22:34.630 Just like why I cover the Lincoln ship from the 1860s 22:34.630 --> 22:37.190 because it still applies today. 22:37.530 --> 22:38.670 That's the biggest thing. 22:39.270 --> 22:40.890 So there we go, man. 22:41.990 --> 22:43.690 Sorry, Ashley, I'll try to shut up. 22:43.790 --> 22:44.370 I wanna hear you. 22:44.790 --> 22:45.470 I'm in class. 22:45.470 --> 22:46.170 Let's go. 22:46.510 --> 22:48.130 No, no, I absolutely love it. 22:48.170 --> 22:49.090 I love the conversation. 22:49.250 --> 22:51.490 And yeah, that's the thing is that we are going to be 22:51.490 --> 22:53.830 really just scratching the surface. 22:53.830 --> 22:56.570 There are so many facets to the entire war, 22:56.670 --> 22:57.930 even to the Phoenix program 22:58.570 --> 23:02.490 that are worth doing so much more work on. 23:02.590 --> 23:06.290 So if y'all enjoy this episode, let Wheezy know. 23:06.430 --> 23:07.710 Maybe he'll have me come back on 23:07.710 --> 23:10.250 and we can do even more work on this subject. 23:10.510 --> 23:13.090 So I'm advocating for myself a little bit here. 23:14.670 --> 23:16.510 But let me grab my notes. 23:16.810 --> 23:20.010 So what I wanna start out with is some basics 23:20.010 --> 23:24.210 on the situation in how we came to be involved in Vietnam. 23:24.750 --> 23:27.290 So as Wheezy was saying, a lot of times 23:27.290 --> 23:29.930 we tend to think that we were in World War II, 23:30.050 --> 23:31.310 that was over in the 40s, 23:31.390 --> 23:34.630 and that Vietnam was sometime in the 60s and 70s. 23:34.790 --> 23:37.310 But actually what was taking place was, 23:37.650 --> 23:40.090 yes, World War II was taking place. 23:41.310 --> 23:44.690 And Vietnam, the history of the country, 23:45.230 --> 23:47.370 and again, I'm not an expert on this, 23:47.390 --> 23:49.210 but I'll just say that over like hundreds 23:49.210 --> 23:50.650 and maybe even thousands of years, 23:50.910 --> 23:53.130 they had gone back and forth with invaders. 23:53.290 --> 23:54.830 So they had gone back and forth with the Chinese 23:54.830 --> 23:56.150 and they would gain some independence 23:56.150 --> 23:57.570 and then they would kick them back out 23:58.130 --> 23:59.710 and back and forth, back and forth. 23:59.890 --> 24:04.810 So they were known to have sort of a fighting spirit 24:05.790 --> 24:07.390 and a desire for independence. 24:07.990 --> 24:12.350 And at this time though, during World War II 24:12.350 --> 24:15.250 and leading into like early 50s, 24:15.830 --> 24:20.490 the French imperialists were who was occupying Vietnam. 24:21.190 --> 24:24.870 So what they noticed are especially the leader of, 24:25.530 --> 24:28.630 who would become the leader of the Viet Cong 24:29.750 --> 24:32.130 or the communists, whatever you wanna call them, 24:33.070 --> 24:36.490 he wanted people to have more of a resistance 24:36.490 --> 24:38.630 to the French than they really did. 24:39.810 --> 24:44.270 Now, once World War II was underway 24:44.270 --> 24:46.450 and the French were in a weakened state, 24:46.650 --> 24:49.470 this was when the Japanese actually 24:50.170 --> 24:51.670 started to occupy Vietnam. 24:52.330 --> 24:54.310 So this was where Ho Chi Minh thought 24:54.310 --> 24:56.950 that he could be able to get people 24:57.370 --> 24:58.970 to kind of rally around the cause 24:58.970 --> 25:01.690 and to try to get out from underneath 25:01.690 --> 25:03.670 the Japanese imperialist. 25:04.890 --> 25:06.870 But also during the time 25:06.870 --> 25:09.810 that the French were occupying them, they had, 25:09.910 --> 25:11.530 and I mentioned this on our other episode, 25:11.570 --> 25:14.410 but they had introduced opium to this country. 25:14.710 --> 25:17.170 So there was a certain class of people 25:17.170 --> 25:18.430 called the Mandarin class 25:18.930 --> 25:21.930 that were sort of like the government workers, 25:22.170 --> 25:25.390 the academics and by the time the French 25:25.390 --> 25:28.610 had made opium legal and opium dens 25:28.610 --> 25:29.770 and things like that, 25:30.210 --> 25:32.710 there was a certain percentage of the Mandarin class 25:32.710 --> 25:33.990 that was addicted to opium. 25:34.650 --> 25:36.390 Now, many of you probably already know, 25:36.510 --> 25:38.430 but this was a technique that was used 25:38.430 --> 25:42.150 by the Anglo establishment when they were, 25:43.950 --> 25:45.950 when they were trying to wage war, 25:46.110 --> 25:47.650 by the East India Trading Company, 25:47.750 --> 25:49.350 when they were essentially trying 25:49.350 --> 25:50.590 to take advantage of the Chinese. 25:50.790 --> 25:53.490 So they used opium as a war against the Chinese people. 25:53.870 --> 25:57.870 That may be one theme that you see still prevalent 25:57.870 --> 26:00.810 and in our face to this day. 26:00.810 --> 26:02.990 And we have, we talked about 26:02.990 --> 26:04.930 that crack was introduced into black neighborhoods, 26:05.530 --> 26:06.970 but they also introduced, 26:07.170 --> 26:11.350 the Sackler family was able to get their product 26:11.350 --> 26:17.430 to be heavily prescribed to Appalachia, essentially. 26:17.970 --> 26:19.070 So there's a certain demographic, 26:19.210 --> 26:20.750 which is a lot of times the underdog, 26:20.870 --> 26:22.450 the working man that they're going after 26:22.450 --> 26:24.290 and to try to disrupt these cultures 26:24.730 --> 26:25.890 in whichever way they can. 26:26.130 --> 26:28.410 So that's one thing that the French were doing, 26:28.410 --> 26:31.930 which was using opium as a weapon against the masses. 26:32.710 --> 26:34.830 So then by the time we had the, 26:36.350 --> 26:38.110 let's see here, I wanna make sure I cover. 26:38.370 --> 26:39.090 Oh, so another thing. 26:39.090 --> 26:43.250 Well, you said real quick, opium in Vietnam, 26:44.230 --> 26:49.410 opium in Afghanistan, same shit, different era. 26:50.290 --> 26:52.350 It just doesn't change. 26:52.590 --> 26:54.490 They don't even change the fucking script, 26:55.790 --> 26:57.510 apparently it's bananas. 26:59.150 --> 27:01.910 Yes, that is so, so true. 27:02.090 --> 27:07.210 And the other thing about the drug issue in Vietnam 27:07.210 --> 27:09.050 is this was used by intelligence 27:09.050 --> 27:13.530 to start figuring out drug trafficking to the US. 27:13.930 --> 27:16.090 Okay, so it was obviously an important part, 27:16.610 --> 27:18.090 an important piece of the puzzle. 27:18.950 --> 27:22.470 And the other thing was that under the French imperialists, 27:22.610 --> 27:25.630 they did have some of the issues that come up 27:25.630 --> 27:28.550 for the communist like land ownership. 27:28.850 --> 27:30.370 Things like this were a problem. 27:30.590 --> 27:33.050 You had a basically an agricultural society, 27:33.230 --> 27:35.450 they were rural and a lot of them farmed. 27:35.450 --> 27:37.690 Previously they had been able to pay their taxes 27:37.690 --> 27:39.130 in rice and things like that. 27:39.530 --> 27:42.490 Those options had gone away for them. 27:42.730 --> 27:45.610 So we start to sort of see this unrest, 27:45.610 --> 27:47.030 especially under the French 27:47.030 --> 27:50.830 and then moving into the Japanese occupation. 27:51.670 --> 27:56.530 So during this time, Ho Chi Minh had at one point, 27:56.530 --> 27:57.830 he was exiled from the country, 27:57.890 --> 27:59.250 he was studying in the USSR, 28:00.050 --> 28:03.590 but he was involved and in touch with our, 28:04.030 --> 28:06.110 I believe it was OSS at that time, 28:06.470 --> 28:08.850 but then shortly after it was the CIA. 28:09.210 --> 28:13.290 So in the overall war that the United States 28:13.290 --> 28:15.630 was waging against the communists, 28:15.770 --> 28:19.030 the leader of that group was Ho Chi Minh, 28:19.030 --> 28:21.530 who had been trained by the CIA. 28:21.910 --> 28:24.190 And when he was imprisoned in China, 28:24.190 --> 28:27.110 it was our CIA that got him out. 28:27.430 --> 28:28.850 They hosted CIA there. 28:29.010 --> 28:31.970 They had people that were, Ho Chi Minh 28:31.970 --> 28:34.870 and some of his people were trained by the CIA. 28:35.250 --> 28:37.430 So I think that this is another interesting thing, 28:37.610 --> 28:41.410 another pattern that we see many, many times 28:41.410 --> 28:43.110 is we see somebody being used, 28:43.450 --> 28:48.390 involved with, trained by, treated well by intelligentsia 28:48.390 --> 28:52.030 and then they turn on them like a rabbit dog 28:52.030 --> 28:52.850 and they burn them. 28:53.290 --> 28:56.130 Yeah, look what's going on in Venezuela right now. 28:57.270 --> 28:59.770 And I believe that all this stuff is connected. 29:00.030 --> 29:01.230 You know, when we're dealing with the same, 29:01.350 --> 29:04.370 the old boys club, we're dealing with the Bush dynasty, 29:04.630 --> 29:05.890 we're dealing with drug running, 29:06.030 --> 29:09.650 we're dealing with intelligence, CIA, but not only CIA, 29:10.030 --> 29:11.750 but that was a huge part of it. 29:11.830 --> 29:13.330 And I definitely think that 29:13.330 --> 29:15.330 and after they were done with Vietnam, 29:15.330 --> 29:17.070 they did turn it on Latin America. 29:17.070 --> 29:21.190 And that led into, you know, Chile and Nicaragua 29:21.190 --> 29:24.070 and probably still what we're seeing today. 29:24.190 --> 29:25.290 I have no doubt in my mind. 29:25.610 --> 29:30.230 So yes, so I just wanted to establish that 29:30.230 --> 29:31.530 because that was one thing that I thought 29:31.530 --> 29:33.290 was really important to point out 29:33.290 --> 29:37.390 is that this Ho Chi Minh was the other, the communist 29:37.390 --> 29:42.450 and yet he is another character that was propped up 29:42.450 --> 29:47.110 as the enemy or the leader of the enemy with CIA ties. 29:47.430 --> 29:49.330 And this would be the same for Osama bin Laden. 29:49.490 --> 29:52.090 This would be the same for Saddam Hussein 29:52.090 --> 29:54.930 and these people that we were told were the ultimate evil. 29:56.190 --> 29:56.790 Yeah. 29:57.570 --> 30:01.710 Yeah, again, same shit, different era. 30:02.230 --> 30:02.730 Yes. 30:03.230 --> 30:03.990 It's just puppets. 30:04.730 --> 30:07.690 That's another thing that I quickly saw 30:07.690 --> 30:10.330 even in the little research that I did on Vietnam. 30:11.410 --> 30:13.830 We instilled a puppet in there. 30:14.590 --> 30:15.270 Yeah, he got. 30:15.510 --> 30:16.570 We didn't like him anymore. 30:16.930 --> 30:18.070 So we got rid of him. 30:19.470 --> 30:22.270 And you don't hear too many people talking about that shit. 30:22.710 --> 30:23.310 That's it. 30:23.470 --> 30:23.570 Yep. 30:23.890 --> 30:25.730 And I'm going to touch on that a little bit as well. 30:25.870 --> 30:28.050 But that is yet another pattern 30:28.050 --> 30:30.270 that we see repeated over and over and over. 30:30.650 --> 30:32.750 We install install someone as a puppet 30:32.750 --> 30:35.670 as the leader of our side, the good guys. 30:35.930 --> 30:38.070 And then we burned their ass. 30:38.390 --> 30:39.370 Yeah. So many times. 30:39.370 --> 30:40.910 And that's what I am actually expecting 30:40.910 --> 30:43.510 that to happen to Zelensky at some point 30:43.510 --> 30:45.690 because he fits that bill quite well, I think. 30:46.850 --> 30:52.830 So the other thing is after the Japanese were bombed by us 30:52.830 --> 30:58.290 in World War Two, then this obviously weakened their position. 30:58.490 --> 31:02.570 So then we're back to the French rule, the French occupation. 31:02.910 --> 31:06.770 OK. And so many had commented and I apologize. 31:06.990 --> 31:07.590 I missed your handle. 31:07.590 --> 31:12.850 But basically talking about the the Vietnamese victory over the French. 31:12.890 --> 31:17.970 Yes. And here's the thing, during the time when we're setting this up, 31:18.110 --> 31:21.310 Ho Chi Minh was trying to be an activist 31:21.310 --> 31:23.050 and he was trying to rally support, 31:23.190 --> 31:27.490 but he was also reaching out to the his contacts in the US. 31:27.790 --> 31:30.450 He was trying to get freedom and independence 31:30.450 --> 31:33.750 and he was trying to create a declaration of independence, 31:34.570 --> 31:37.450 essentially for these people that was based on the United States. 31:38.130 --> 31:42.430 And my my buddy Ronnie Omelts is in the chat here 31:42.430 --> 31:46.950 and he he had made a comment before that Ho Chi Minh was also like doing, 31:47.290 --> 31:51.250 you know, he was looking out for himself and that that's fine and very believable. 31:51.450 --> 31:57.030 But this is what we hear is that he was trying to establish independence 31:57.030 --> 31:59.350 for the country of Vietnam. OK. 31:59.830 --> 32:01.170 The other thing that I want to establish 32:01.170 --> 32:03.930 is that we had different factions in Vietnam. 32:03.930 --> 32:09.570 So we did have people that were of traditional Vietnamese heritage. 32:09.690 --> 32:12.830 There was another smaller group, the Mollin Yards. 32:13.470 --> 32:17.610 If I'm if I'm mispronouncing that, someone let me know that were, you know, 32:17.650 --> 32:19.210 they had a different cultural heritage. 32:19.550 --> 32:22.730 They had a different background and they were looked at as lesser 32:22.730 --> 32:25.010 by the overall Vietnamese people. 32:25.570 --> 32:28.810 Then we also had the fact that most of the people in Vietnam 32:28.810 --> 32:31.850 were Buddhist and Confucianists. 32:31.850 --> 32:34.670 So their land and their ancestors was very important to them. 32:34.710 --> 32:38.630 However, we also had a faction of Catholics in the country. 32:38.790 --> 32:41.990 And this is going to come into play whenever we're we're setting up 32:41.990 --> 32:45.030 the north and south Vietnam lines. 32:45.710 --> 32:50.730 So basically at the time that the French were back in power, 32:50.730 --> 32:54.710 they were being bankrolled by the United States. 32:55.130 --> 32:58.870 This was after Ho Chi Minh had asked the United States for help in independence. 32:59.050 --> 33:01.330 OK. And the United States gave so much money 33:01.330 --> 33:03.350 propping up the French again. 33:03.790 --> 33:07.370 Another pattern that we see is essentially the United States fighting 33:07.370 --> 33:12.130 a proxy war by funding somebody else who's doing the fighting, 33:12.130 --> 33:15.310 even though we know that we did have intelligence over there at that time. 33:16.570 --> 33:20.350 So I think that these patterns that we're starting to see develop 33:20.350 --> 33:24.030 are important because, again, we see them all the time still to this day, 33:24.250 --> 33:28.630 played out, you know, wash, repeat, however you want to say that. 33:29.380 --> 33:32.350 So they did have a victory. 33:33.110 --> 33:35.050 Just use your slogan. Yes. 33:35.410 --> 33:37.410 Bank change. Yes. 33:38.670 --> 33:43.490 But the French got to a point where they they could they were worn out 33:43.490 --> 33:47.590 because of guerrilla warfare, because they did not have the ability 33:47.590 --> 33:52.790 to handle, manage, keep up with or fight back effectively against guerrilla warfare. 33:52.970 --> 33:58.130 So finally they they called they called it and they decided that they were leaving. 33:58.630 --> 34:02.270 During this time, they entered the United States at this point. 34:02.810 --> 34:05.110 So even though Ho Chi Minh had asked the United States for help, 34:05.270 --> 34:09.310 they were coming in under or after the French and they decided 34:09.310 --> 34:13.430 that they were setting up the opposition to fight the communist. 34:13.930 --> 34:17.570 And during this time, this is when the border had been established 34:17.570 --> 34:21.430 between the north and the south, which was never supposed to be a permanent border. 34:22.590 --> 34:24.250 And it was agreed upon 34:24.250 --> 34:27.530 and they were supposed to have elections in the next couple of years. 34:27.530 --> 34:28.930 Those elections never happened. 34:29.190 --> 34:30.210 That border stayed. 34:30.850 --> 34:34.510 But people thinking that just that it was the north versus the south. 34:34.630 --> 34:36.110 It was super easy. 34:36.310 --> 34:37.350 These were just communists. 34:37.590 --> 34:40.190 The South Vietnamese people just wanted to fight them. 34:40.370 --> 34:42.150 That is not true at all. 34:42.710 --> 34:48.010 This was a made up border and it was never supposed to be permanent. 34:48.250 --> 34:50.810 But going into the American occupation, 34:51.710 --> 34:55.930 it stayed and that was, you know, the lines that they were working within. 34:55.990 --> 34:57.330 But it was not supposed to be like that. 34:57.530 --> 35:00.730 And yes, the United States installed a puppet. 35:01.030 --> 35:04.690 This guy was a Catholic, so they were able to recruit Catholics 35:04.690 --> 35:08.050 from the northern part of the country to come to South Vietnam. 35:09.350 --> 35:14.850 And the his name, Diem, he was not popular. 35:15.110 --> 35:19.490 So he did have the military as was talked about in a perfect war, 35:19.630 --> 35:22.050 but he did not have the support of the people. 35:22.110 --> 35:23.970 And he also had some tyrannical policies. 35:23.970 --> 35:28.070 As I said, their their religion of Buddhism was important to them. 35:28.170 --> 35:31.510 And he did some, you know, dictator style stuff, 35:31.510 --> 35:35.830 like you're not allowed to fly your Buddhist flags and things like that. 35:35.890 --> 35:37.690 So he was an unpopular person. 35:38.090 --> 35:41.170 And this is also where we have the Kissinger 35:41.730 --> 35:44.890 kind of whispering in the ear of JFK and they're selling him 35:44.890 --> 35:47.210 on the idea of limited warfare. 35:47.750 --> 35:49.650 And that was the whole thing, right? 35:49.770 --> 35:52.930 We're going in to stop based on our domino theory. 35:52.930 --> 35:58.570 We're going to be stopping the this communist domino in Asia. 35:58.750 --> 35:59.950 We're going to be securing it. 36:00.010 --> 36:01.450 We're going to take them freedom. 36:01.650 --> 36:07.610 We're going to introduce them to this truly a build back better type life. 36:09.590 --> 36:13.830 And we are doing that because we have so much money 36:13.830 --> 36:18.170 and so much technology that they this is going to be a limited war. 36:18.250 --> 36:21.730 There's no way that they're going to be able to to handle that. 36:21.730 --> 36:26.410 Yeah. And the domino theory in reality was all nothing but propaganda. 36:27.770 --> 36:30.310 To justify the bullshit down there. 36:31.510 --> 36:35.530 I mean, again, same shit, different era. 36:36.130 --> 36:37.170 That's what it comes down to. 36:37.590 --> 36:41.090 I mean, if you really think about it, it was basically a neocolonial 36:41.090 --> 36:44.950 empire maintenance, what they were doing down there. 36:45.590 --> 36:48.350 You know, when we think about the colonial times, 36:48.350 --> 36:54.250 we think about the 1700s, you know, fucking dudes with feathers in their hats 36:54.250 --> 36:58.370 and calling it macaroni type of shit and selling around the seven seas. 36:58.890 --> 37:04.730 But these I have World War One was war started over colonies 37:05.550 --> 37:11.390 and here all the way into Vietnam, they're still fighting over a fucking colony. 37:11.750 --> 37:16.150 So this is modern day colonialism and in its truest form 37:16.150 --> 37:19.390 that doesn't really ever get talked about or mentioned. 37:20.090 --> 37:21.610 It's fucking crazy. 37:22.270 --> 37:24.230 That is 100 percent true. 37:24.490 --> 37:26.890 And again, in my conversations with my friend, the wizard, 37:27.050 --> 37:30.790 this is one of the things that so we we met in Richard Grove's autonomy 37:30.790 --> 37:33.890 and Richard Grove, one of the big things that he talks about 37:33.890 --> 37:40.030 is the Anglo-American establishment and how so often it goes back to that. 37:40.030 --> 37:44.530 So my friend thinks essentially that the United States 37:44.530 --> 37:48.250 is the attack dog of the Anglo establishment 37:48.250 --> 37:51.070 and that really we're still under British rule. 37:51.170 --> 37:53.890 And I think that that ties in with what Richard Grove believes as well. 37:54.030 --> 37:56.190 And I think that there's enough evidence for that 37:56.190 --> 38:00.790 because they had advisors from the UK working in in this situation. 38:01.250 --> 38:04.050 So once again, another pattern that we see playing out 38:04.050 --> 38:08.630 is that we have these old boys and throwbacks to 38:10.050 --> 38:16.250 the UK to Great Britain that are involved in what we're what we're operating in. 38:16.850 --> 38:20.790 One last little tidbit that I want to before we we really, 38:21.050 --> 38:24.390 really start going deep into these Vietnam weeds, weeds. 38:25.770 --> 38:29.950 The Gulf of Tonkin, as people in the conspiracy world, 38:30.130 --> 38:33.150 we've probably heard of the Gulf of Tonkin, 38:34.010 --> 38:38.030 probably from a sign up influencer known as Alex Jones 38:39.230 --> 38:44.110 or if you listen to Joe Rogan, I used to be a hardcore Joe Rogan listener. 38:44.250 --> 38:45.150 I no longer am. 38:45.550 --> 38:49.730 And if you want to know why no longer and watch the Joe Rogan 38:49.730 --> 38:52.310 or listen to the Joe Rogan episode I did with Seven Seas. 38:52.670 --> 38:55.830 It was one of my most downloaded episodes to date 38:56.550 --> 38:59.050 where we broke down Joe Rogan's bullshit. 38:59.510 --> 39:03.890 But Joe Rogan is one of these guys that will mention the Gulf of Tonkin quite a bit. 39:04.450 --> 39:07.130 The Gulf of Tonkin was an incident 39:07.130 --> 39:10.950 that was completely made up. 39:11.530 --> 39:13.270 It was completely manufactured. 39:13.850 --> 39:15.270 Nothing never happened. 39:15.890 --> 39:17.790 So if you are new to my show, 39:19.410 --> 39:21.110 you're probably like, what the hell? 39:21.510 --> 39:23.130 Maybe you've caught some of my episodes. 39:23.370 --> 39:25.610 Oh, my God, he doesn't believe the Trump assassination. 39:25.950 --> 39:27.710 He doesn't believe in the moon landings. 39:28.110 --> 39:29.510 He thinks this is fake. 39:29.990 --> 39:31.330 He thinks that is fake. 39:33.110 --> 39:35.470 The Gulf of Tonkin has entered the chat. 39:36.400 --> 39:39.070 The Gulf of Tonkin was completely made up bullshit. 39:39.690 --> 39:43.710 So when you when you think that I'm I go too far 39:43.710 --> 39:46.590 in questioning certain events that are happening 39:47.380 --> 39:51.330 that I view them as manufactured and as staged 39:51.330 --> 39:53.330 and as complete bullshit. 39:54.790 --> 39:58.230 I have a base to put it on. 39:58.770 --> 40:04.290 The Gulf of Tonkin from the 60s, completely manufactured, completely staged. 40:04.290 --> 40:06.970 Nothing ever fucking happened. 40:07.850 --> 40:09.730 And this isn't a conspiracy theory. 40:10.190 --> 40:12.230 This has been admitted. 40:12.850 --> 40:14.030 They faked it. 40:15.090 --> 40:19.230 So anyone having a hard time, well, shit, they wouldn't fake no moon landings. 40:19.430 --> 40:22.550 They wouldn't fake no Trump assassination attempt. 40:23.210 --> 40:25.890 Oh, but here they admitted that they have. 40:26.030 --> 40:27.610 So we do have a precedent for it. 40:27.810 --> 40:29.850 So I just wanted to get that out of the way. 40:29.970 --> 40:33.070 And I'm sure at some point you'll you'll revisit it. 40:33.070 --> 40:36.530 But that's a that that's a preface 40:37.130 --> 40:40.190 for anyone that's been listening to me for a long time. 40:40.250 --> 40:41.430 Or maybe you're a new listener. 40:41.650 --> 40:44.930 This is why I focused on a lot of fake ass shit, 40:44.950 --> 40:47.770 because there is a precedent for this. 40:49.450 --> 40:52.830 Yeah, and I think that's a good point, because that's something that, 40:53.370 --> 40:58.470 you know, I have had challenged a bit is believing essentially 40:58.470 --> 41:01.950 that the fix is in is something that Monica says a lot. 41:01.950 --> 41:04.910 Monica Perez and so I've been thinking about that. 41:04.930 --> 41:08.450 OK, what evidence do we have to support that? 41:08.850 --> 41:12.250 And so I think that building this. 41:13.910 --> 41:17.890 History and looking into this and making these connections with, 41:18.030 --> 41:21.670 first of all, that they happen is second of all, that actual 41:22.330 --> 41:26.130 people who have been studying this for decades and people that are 41:26.130 --> 41:29.890 speaking to the real agents, people that are academics, 41:29.890 --> 41:33.650 they are also documenting that this happened. 41:33.970 --> 41:37.690 And you don't have anybody in a government space 41:37.690 --> 41:41.390 that's telling you the truth about about these types of things. 41:41.610 --> 41:44.790 They're not admitting to even the Gulf of 41:44.790 --> 41:47.110 Tonkin that happened all that time ago, right? 41:47.590 --> 41:49.130 But yes, that is something. 41:49.250 --> 41:54.190 That was an event where it supposedly a ship was reporting 41:54.190 --> 41:58.010 that they were having torpedoes fired on them all night. 41:58.010 --> 42:01.010 And that's why they ended up using that 42:02.070 --> 42:04.170 as justification for attacking. 42:04.470 --> 42:05.590 And it didn't happen. 42:06.090 --> 42:07.230 It simply did not happen. 42:07.290 --> 42:10.590 And there was another ship who was in the area that verified 42:10.590 --> 42:14.470 that they never picked up torpedoes on their radar. 42:14.810 --> 42:19.290 And they suggested that the ship that was saying that it was attacked. 42:19.450 --> 42:22.310 I can't remember the name right off the top of my head, but that 42:23.370 --> 42:26.590 perhaps they were hearing their own engine 42:26.590 --> 42:28.570 or their own rotor. 42:28.990 --> 42:33.830 So yeah, I just wanted to touch on that because my show 42:34.390 --> 42:39.210 I do a lot of shit where that shit's fake, that shit's fake, that shit's fake. 42:39.270 --> 42:42.730 So I think that's why a lot of people follow my show 42:42.730 --> 42:46.630 because they feel the same way as I do on a lot of these things. 42:47.030 --> 42:50.230 So that that's really for someone that's like, God damn, dude, 42:50.730 --> 42:52.790 this dude thinks everything is fake and gay. 42:54.290 --> 42:56.550 I'm we're going to be talking about the Gulf of Tongue 42:56.550 --> 42:57.810 is something that has been established. 42:58.190 --> 43:01.590 And I would argue this shit didn't start even then. 43:02.870 --> 43:05.250 I've talked a little bit about the U.S. 43:05.270 --> 43:08.650 Mexican War and maybe at some point I'm going to get 43:08.650 --> 43:12.470 an actual historian, an accredited historian on it, 43:12.490 --> 43:15.970 because I know that real good. 43:16.110 --> 43:19.090 I studied it. I'm I'm of Mexican American heritage. 43:19.730 --> 43:20.610 And the U.S. 43:20.610 --> 43:23.250 Mexican War started over a fake as 43:24.470 --> 43:27.210 the U.S. said that the Mexicans fired on them. 43:27.230 --> 43:29.750 The Mexicans are like, why the fuck will we fire at you? 43:29.870 --> 43:31.250 We don't want no war with you. 43:32.550 --> 43:33.790 But it was. 43:34.830 --> 43:36.830 They said that the Mexicans fired on them 43:36.830 --> 43:40.570 so that now they have the green light to go ahead and attack. 43:40.750 --> 43:43.990 Just like the 9 11's when the towers got hit, 43:44.030 --> 43:45.950 now we have a green light to attack. 43:45.950 --> 43:50.190 It's always this bullshit narrative to get us into these fucking wars. 43:50.490 --> 43:53.890 And the Gulf Gulf of Tonkin was no fucking different 43:53.890 --> 43:55.690 than any other time in history. 43:56.030 --> 44:00.710 So these fake events, these fake narratives 44:01.290 --> 44:04.330 go back as far as the U.S. 44:04.370 --> 44:05.530 Mexican War may hurt. 44:05.710 --> 44:09.290 I would argue even way before that tells all the time. 44:09.410 --> 44:13.370 Yeah, it's it's it's all that shit, false flag attacks. 44:13.370 --> 44:16.370 So enough of that, let's hear what you got, Ashley. 44:17.170 --> 44:21.450 Yeah, I think that's 100 percent an important point to bring up 44:21.450 --> 44:24.030 is that even what we're seeing here is likely not new. 44:24.390 --> 44:26.730 Some of some of this is new. 44:27.150 --> 44:31.430 But I would agree with you that ultimately the primary tactics 44:31.430 --> 44:35.350 that are used to manipulate the situation and justify 44:35.930 --> 44:39.990 whatever they're doing, this has been happening for a very long time. 44:40.330 --> 44:42.450 Now, the interesting thing to me 44:43.370 --> 44:48.890 is why they even felt the need to justify because it it seemed like, 44:49.110 --> 44:51.590 yes, there was the antiwar movement back home, 44:51.590 --> 44:57.610 but we know they were also actively trying to discredit the antiwar movement 44:57.610 --> 45:00.230 that they were infiltrating the antiwar movement. 45:00.350 --> 45:02.970 We know then we had the Laurel Canyon tie in. 45:03.090 --> 45:05.870 We know that they were doing that with acid. 45:06.370 --> 45:09.870 We know that they used the their drug trafficking, 45:09.870 --> 45:14.950 what they learned in Asia to bring that to the United States 45:14.950 --> 45:18.290 and to facilitate getting acid out to a lot of places 45:18.290 --> 45:21.370 so that they would hand out, you know, a huge amount of acid 45:21.370 --> 45:23.210 at like grateful dead shows and things like that. 45:23.230 --> 45:26.170 So we know they connects in a million different places. 45:26.530 --> 45:27.170 Yeah, but. 45:27.870 --> 45:32.190 Well, and then real quick to the just like in World War Two, 45:32.310 --> 45:36.110 you had these big US corporations that were making 45:37.150 --> 45:39.470 bucktons of money off of the Vietnam War. 45:40.050 --> 45:42.510 While many people, there's probably people listening to this. 45:42.850 --> 45:44.530 I have an uncle that died in Vietnam. 45:45.250 --> 45:48.770 I had an uncle that got some kind of disease 45:48.770 --> 45:51.690 because of Agent Orange in Vietnam and he died of cancer. 45:52.450 --> 45:56.130 There's I'm sure there's going to be people listening that can have 45:56.130 --> 46:00.810 that have a family relative that can be relatable to the Vietnam era. 46:01.230 --> 46:04.250 And when you realize that a lot of these big businesses, 46:04.250 --> 46:06.510 these US corporations like Monsanto 46:07.810 --> 46:12.350 was heavily making fucking billions and billions of fucking money 46:12.910 --> 46:13.630 out Vietnam. 46:13.630 --> 46:17.430 They didn't give a fuck that the US that the Americans were losing 46:17.430 --> 46:19.810 because the money was still rolling in. 46:20.090 --> 46:24.070 That's all they gave a fuck about was the fucking money. 46:25.910 --> 46:29.830 The soldiers on the ground, they were thrown in the meat grinder. 46:30.330 --> 46:32.650 Fuck them. We got a draft going on. 46:32.650 --> 46:35.470 We could if we lose a fucking squad right there, 46:35.490 --> 46:39.170 we just get some more motherfuckers and throw them in the fucking meat grinder. 46:39.910 --> 46:43.490 That's one of the darkest parts to the shit that doesn't get really talked about. 46:44.750 --> 46:47.590 Meanwhile, Monsanto and all these other US corporations 46:48.490 --> 46:49.930 making that fucking money. 46:50.910 --> 46:53.830 And that's one of the darker parts of the Vietnam shit 46:53.830 --> 46:56.710 that you won't really ever hear too many people talking about. 46:57.870 --> 46:59.910 That is 100 percent true. 46:59.910 --> 47:03.190 And this is something that Monica Perez also talks about during World War Two. 47:03.410 --> 47:07.250 Like what you're saying, the money never stopped rolling. 47:07.610 --> 47:08.650 Que bono. 47:08.890 --> 47:13.370 It is always the same group of people, the old moneyed people, 47:13.530 --> 47:18.390 the people that our friends with and our lawyers of and went to law school with 47:18.390 --> 47:21.310 and whatever who are at the heads of these corporations 47:21.970 --> 47:23.550 who are at the heads of the banks. 47:24.690 --> 47:27.630 Who are in the military contractors. 47:27.630 --> 47:31.030 These are the people that continue to get rich 47:31.030 --> 47:35.810 and the people that continue to make money in spite of the atrocities 47:35.810 --> 47:40.270 and the human toll that they cost our country 47:40.270 --> 47:43.070 and whatever other country they're meddling in. 47:43.290 --> 47:47.910 And not only that, let's take out the all the people that are killed for these reasons. 47:47.910 --> 47:50.630 But then the rest of the population that is left, 47:50.630 --> 47:55.170 they are actively cranking down on your freedom, you know, 47:55.170 --> 47:59.910 because because these things are steps to and working towards 47:59.910 --> 48:04.850 the technocratic state to the globalist technocratic state. 48:05.430 --> 48:08.250 And this was a huge part of that. 48:08.430 --> 48:12.410 And this was the does the case that Valentine makes in his conversation 48:12.410 --> 48:18.570 with geopolitics and empire that this was a foundational piece. 48:19.010 --> 48:22.710 Operation Phoenix was setting up the surveillance techno state. 48:23.390 --> 48:28.130 And yeah, so and we can get a little bit more into that, 48:28.130 --> 48:30.650 but I agree with you 100 percent. 48:31.010 --> 48:37.350 And like what you were talking about, I also wanted to point out that not only 48:37.350 --> 48:42.770 in what you're saying is correct, that they treated the regular person 48:42.770 --> 48:45.530 who was going to be out on ground patrol. 48:45.890 --> 48:48.990 They treated them like an expendable resource. 48:48.990 --> 48:52.470 Exactly what Weezy was saying, your uncle, 48:53.410 --> 48:56.690 somebody's fiance, somebody's son, somebody's brother, 48:56.970 --> 49:00.190 somebody's friend in high school, they didn't care. 49:00.570 --> 49:04.330 They sent them out there as bait and they knew it. 49:04.930 --> 49:08.190 And so this was something that I wanted to get into. 49:08.330 --> 49:12.870 So there was actually an incident where special forces set up a presentation. 49:12.870 --> 49:17.510 So they're basically propagandizing JFK to let 49:17.510 --> 49:21.550 these special forces be part of this limited war. 49:22.610 --> 49:28.630 And they had, you know, like some some equipment that was never actually used. 49:28.790 --> 49:31.770 And they had a miniature propaganda campaign 49:31.770 --> 49:36.110 where they set off all these papers, these flyers with JFK's picture all over it. 49:36.290 --> 49:37.930 And they were wearing their green berets. 49:38.310 --> 49:41.690 And yes, and I want to get into the 49:42.530 --> 49:46.490 to the chemical warfare agent of that as well. 49:46.490 --> 49:47.090 Let me make a note. 49:50.190 --> 49:54.130 But so so what I wanted to say, though, was that so JFK was 49:54.130 --> 49:59.450 sold originally on the limited war nature, on the techno war, 49:59.450 --> 50:02.990 because there's no way that this is going to be a long conflict 50:03.730 --> 50:06.270 because we have the advanced equipment. 50:06.590 --> 50:08.170 We have the the money. 50:08.370 --> 50:09.810 They're just poor peasants, right? 50:09.930 --> 50:11.090 And we're stopping communism. 50:11.530 --> 50:14.070 So that was sort of how they ended up getting him 50:15.090 --> 50:16.650 on on with that. 50:16.670 --> 50:19.550 And then he was propagandized as well by the special forces 50:19.550 --> 50:23.810 in order to allow them to participate in this limited war, 50:23.950 --> 50:26.650 which I just thought was an interesting bullet point. 50:26.730 --> 50:28.970 And there's a lot of weird things even to this day. 50:29.170 --> 50:34.390 And, you know, Seth Harp has the book of about Fort Bragg, 50:34.430 --> 50:38.070 where he's still talking about drugs and special forces. 50:38.110 --> 50:43.210 And we know that Fort Bragg has their psychological warfare operations 50:43.890 --> 50:45.190 part on this base. 50:45.430 --> 50:47.770 So all these things are still connected to the state. 50:49.030 --> 50:52.970 Now, at one point, though, the puppet DM, 50:53.790 --> 50:56.710 the leader of South Vietnam, he was not popular 50:57.170 --> 51:00.910 and they were losing the war because they did not understand. 51:01.850 --> 51:05.550 And I don't actually let me just this is where this is my opinion. 51:05.830 --> 51:09.370 I think that they did understand that they were not competing 51:09.370 --> 51:12.390 with guerrilla warfare because they were they had spent 51:12.390 --> 51:15.650 however much time observing the French fight and lose 51:16.110 --> 51:19.070 on American money, guerrilla warfare. 51:19.950 --> 51:22.430 So I think that they knew very well what they were doing. 51:22.790 --> 51:26.610 My personal opinion is that Vietnam was used as a test ground 51:26.610 --> 51:29.990 because they wanted to see what they could accomplish 51:29.990 --> 51:31.870 with a million different things. 51:32.470 --> 51:37.230 And by that, I mean to to affect human behavior 51:37.710 --> 51:40.570 to what does it look like when we go into a place 51:40.570 --> 51:44.490 and we obliterate it and we want to rebuild it in the way 51:44.490 --> 51:46.510 that we want to rebuild it. 51:46.710 --> 51:50.870 So and this is something that James William Gibson talks about 51:50.870 --> 51:53.010 in his interview, Alternative Views. 51:53.030 --> 51:58.350 That was a show that he says we were going from rural to city. 51:58.830 --> 52:02.330 So I would ask people, does this sound familiar to you? 52:02.390 --> 52:06.130 Because it should because we have talked about the body of things, 52:06.250 --> 52:07.950 the Internet of Things, smart cities. 52:07.950 --> 52:12.330 You hear people say they want to hurt us into smart cities. 52:12.530 --> 52:15.610 So wouldn't this be really interesting if this is exactly 52:15.610 --> 52:18.370 what they were trying to do in Vietnam for the tech at the time 52:18.370 --> 52:23.770 to to build back better to great reset this country? 52:23.910 --> 52:26.730 That's exactly what they did and they wanted to change it 52:26.730 --> 52:29.550 and turn it into a commercial society. 52:29.650 --> 52:32.870 They wanted them driving cars, you know, whatever cars 52:32.870 --> 52:35.450 we imported there, they wanted them having televisions 52:35.450 --> 52:36.830 and and things like that. 52:36.830 --> 52:39.670 So I feel like it was a testing ground, not only for turning them 52:39.670 --> 52:43.650 into a consumer society and making it a city and making it 52:43.650 --> 52:47.490 a surveillance state, but for that plus a million other things. 52:47.550 --> 52:51.270 And I think that they were testing out their psychological warfare 52:51.270 --> 52:54.530 techniques and human behavior. 52:54.790 --> 52:57.790 I think that they and we can get into this more. 52:57.890 --> 53:01.130 But I think really that Operation Phoenix was a maybe an 53:01.130 --> 53:04.770 offshoot or a continuance of Operation Gladio, which all 53:04.770 --> 53:08.490 of that was seen by William Colby, the director of the CIA. 53:09.010 --> 53:16.850 So getting back to JFK, though, at a point, he saw that they were losing. 53:17.270 --> 53:21.070 And we know that this was a very long conflict and it was long and drawn out. 53:21.190 --> 53:26.850 So this was, let's say, so JFK was killed 11, 22, 63. 53:27.490 --> 53:32.490 And it was actually earlier in that exact same month that he 53:32.490 --> 53:34.570 started making changes in the CIA. 53:34.850 --> 53:39.610 So some of the officers that were stationed in Vietnam, he wanted them gone 53:39.610 --> 53:43.950 and he wanted DM that puppet that had been installed by the CIA. 53:44.170 --> 53:45.450 He wanted him gone as well. 53:45.610 --> 53:49.230 And then as we know, later that month, he would end up getting assassinated. 53:49.630 --> 53:53.770 Now, do I think that that is why JFK was assassinated? 53:53.890 --> 53:54.570 I have no idea. 53:54.710 --> 53:56.190 I think it's a really complicated subject. 53:56.190 --> 54:00.430 And I think a lot of people have good input on who would have wanted 54:00.430 --> 54:03.970 to take him out and likely it was a combination of maybe a lot of different 54:03.970 --> 54:05.630 intelligence and maybe the mafia. 54:06.110 --> 54:08.230 I don't know. And I want to be clear about that. 54:08.430 --> 54:11.370 But I just I mean, yeah, another. 54:11.690 --> 54:18.470 Well, I know people like to lionize JFK and 54:19.530 --> 54:23.570 first deep state hit, everything changed after JFK. 54:23.650 --> 54:28.050 Well, I'm of the view and I, you know, it might piss off. 54:28.050 --> 54:29.190 Might trigger some people. 54:29.430 --> 54:30.870 JFK was no fucking scene. 54:31.270 --> 54:33.710 I mean, he was a serial philanthroper. 54:34.430 --> 54:35.910 They had mob ties. 54:36.150 --> 54:42.290 His whole family had mob ties just like Lincoln Lincoln got taken out for sure. 54:42.310 --> 54:44.270 But he was a fucking tyrant as well. 54:45.550 --> 54:48.050 So it's very similar in that regard. 54:48.530 --> 54:53.750 And one thing that gets overlooked with JFK in Vietnam is that 54:54.990 --> 55:01.330 during his his tenure, I think the CIA had like 900 agents or so. 55:01.630 --> 55:05.250 And then during his tenure, it ballooned up to 20,000. 55:05.850 --> 55:10.110 So this whole idea that he was anti-Vietnam War and all this bullshit 55:10.110 --> 55:15.670 is kind of a myth when you really look at it, it actually fucking expanded 55:15.670 --> 55:17.530 under his administration. 55:18.150 --> 55:20.390 So maybe you may disagree with that. 55:20.390 --> 55:24.350 But I think, you know, to say that 55:25.670 --> 55:28.670 he, you know, Vietnam was probably one of the things that got him killed. 55:29.150 --> 55:31.490 I don't think he was completely opposed to it. 55:31.570 --> 55:33.370 Like this is I think that's a myth. 55:34.470 --> 55:38.110 He helped push it, maybe not as much as they wanted it, 55:38.170 --> 55:39.970 but he was an innocent as well. 55:40.050 --> 55:41.190 And that's just my take on it. 55:41.730 --> 55:43.470 No, I'm I agree with you 100 percent. 55:43.690 --> 55:46.010 I think that this happened under his watch. 55:46.530 --> 55:52.090 And I think that what this is the other thing is I am not 100 percent 55:52.090 --> 55:56.990 sure how he truly felt about it or what his motivations were exactly. 55:57.770 --> 56:01.450 And I don't want to tell people that I think this is why he was taken out. 56:01.550 --> 56:06.470 I think it's interesting that in the month of early in November of 1963, 56:06.470 --> 56:10.990 that he was making changes in intelligence in CIA and that they had 56:10.990 --> 56:16.190 been trying to sell him on increasing the troops in Vietnam. 56:17.530 --> 56:22.070 But I agree that I really don't think that's why he was taken out. 56:22.330 --> 56:25.510 And yes, he absolutely supported it because he was part of this. 56:25.790 --> 56:27.910 You know, it was happening under his watch. 56:28.450 --> 56:33.530 Yeah, I mean, and I'm not going to get into this too much. 56:33.690 --> 56:35.910 But anyone that's followed me for a while, 56:36.490 --> 56:38.110 you guys know, I do a lot of moon landing show. 56:39.210 --> 56:45.150 To me, the moon landings were a distraction from all the fucking bullshit 56:45.150 --> 56:49.450 happening in Vietnam, all the atrocities that were happening on the regular. 56:49.990 --> 56:52.730 Oh, we're just going to land on the moon and we're going to play golf. 56:52.830 --> 56:55.630 And it's all fucking bullshit distractions. 56:56.390 --> 56:57.710 Look at the shiny object. 56:57.830 --> 56:59.150 We're on the fucking moon. 57:01.310 --> 57:04.470 Meanwhile, a lot of these young kids got thrown into the motherfucking 57:04.470 --> 57:06.110 meat grinder in Vietnam. 57:07.030 --> 57:12.630 All these Vietnamese innocent civilians that were labeled as communist 57:12.630 --> 57:17.130 fucking killed in brutal ways, the women raped in brutal ways. 57:17.430 --> 57:22.110 But it was OK because we're rooting out communism. 57:22.750 --> 57:25.090 That was the dark fucking shit that was happening. 57:25.450 --> 57:28.570 Meanwhile, everyone was distracted with a motherfucker going to space 57:28.570 --> 57:31.110 and landed on the moon allegedly. 57:32.590 --> 57:36.450 That's one hundred percent people don't fucking talk about one hundred percent. 57:36.650 --> 57:42.350 And this is something that this is it is really so upsetting 57:42.350 --> 57:47.510 because the amount of people Americans that were sent there to die 57:47.510 --> 57:52.010 because of the cavalier way that they were treated literally as bait. 57:52.190 --> 57:58.770 They wanted them in some cases to go on a night mission and explore. 57:58.770 --> 58:04.110 OK, but a lot of times and they're referred to as like the military 58:04.110 --> 58:08.190 managers or war managers in a perfect war in the book. 58:08.530 --> 58:12.750 And that was this is another point of his that is really important. 58:12.890 --> 58:16.950 I think because this is where we see a transition maybe from how people 58:16.950 --> 58:22.670 think about war or how war is conducted to this. 58:22.930 --> 58:27.510 This is now being set up like a corporation almost. 58:27.510 --> 58:31.270 It is moving to a business point of view. 58:31.430 --> 58:36.170 OK, so yes, we do have a lot of war gaming happening and a lot of theorizing 58:36.170 --> 58:39.350 about X, Y and Z and moves that we're making. 58:39.590 --> 58:43.490 But this began being looked at from a business perspective. 58:43.630 --> 58:46.810 Not that business was not an important element, just like what 58:46.810 --> 58:47.690 Weezy was saying earlier. 58:47.890 --> 58:49.010 The money kept flowing. 58:49.490 --> 58:49.650 Right. 58:49.790 --> 58:51.310 We know that during World War Two. 58:51.410 --> 58:53.030 We know that people were getting rich off of that. 58:53.410 --> 58:59.710 But this was a change in how they managed, I think, their their soldiers. 58:59.950 --> 59:03.350 So often the ground soldiers were referred to as grunts. 59:03.810 --> 59:07.430 And this was because they were considered to be expendable. 59:07.910 --> 59:11.350 And after a time, they realized that or maybe they always realized it. 59:11.470 --> 59:14.750 But but by the end, they were getting absolutely fed up. 59:15.030 --> 59:17.550 And and we can get into that a little bit. 59:17.890 --> 59:18.710 Bragging and shit. 59:19.110 --> 59:20.190 Yeah, bragging. Yes. 59:20.190 --> 59:28.490 Yeah, it's that was that was one of the biggest things that I realized 59:29.130 --> 59:34.530 that they would send a squad, like you said, go do night raids. 59:34.990 --> 59:42.730 But in reality, what they were doing was let's let's use them as bait, essentially. 59:43.470 --> 59:44.230 Let's go out. 59:45.170 --> 59:47.630 They're going to get attacked once they get attacked. 59:47.630 --> 59:50.130 Then we're going to fucking carpet bomb the fucking area. 59:50.730 --> 59:55.890 So in our reality, those motherfuckers that were drying out, sent the missions to dry out. 59:57.590 --> 01:00:00.770 They they did not give a fuck about them. 01:00:01.550 --> 01:00:02.950 They were just another fucking number. 01:00:03.650 --> 01:00:10.190 That's it. And they also had basically a body counts that they had to do. 01:00:11.030 --> 01:00:15.290 And so if they didn't reach a quota of these bodies. 01:00:16.090 --> 01:00:19.130 Guess what? No sleep for you tonight, motherfuckers. 01:00:19.310 --> 01:00:21.770 Go back out, go back out and have some more fucking bodies. 01:00:22.810 --> 01:00:27.330 And this is the dark mental shit that a lot of people didn't know. 01:00:27.510 --> 01:00:31.670 I didn't fucking know about it until I really started going down deep this week. 01:00:32.170 --> 01:00:34.690 It's really atrocious. 01:00:35.430 --> 01:00:37.170 It's it's really fucked up. 01:00:37.530 --> 01:00:43.290 Yeah. And it's easy to forget that when I'm right here, I'm in a gated community. 01:00:44.050 --> 01:00:44.950 Great neighborhood. 01:00:45.770 --> 01:00:47.150 Everyone does their yards. 01:00:47.390 --> 01:00:49.330 Everyone's happy, quote, unquote. 01:00:52.150 --> 01:00:57.190 And now I'm learning about this shit, this dark fucking side to what we call 01:00:57.190 --> 01:01:02.890 American exceptionalism, what it is to be a fucking patriot. 01:01:03.310 --> 01:01:06.930 Now when I hear someone being a proud patriot, I was at Walmart today. 01:01:08.030 --> 01:01:09.750 This old man gets on the microphone. 01:01:09.750 --> 01:01:12.770 He's like, I want to give a shout out to all the veterans and shit. 01:01:13.290 --> 01:01:14.890 I understand his sentiment. 01:01:17.150 --> 01:01:24.950 But fuck patriotism because patriotism is just propaganda to volunteer to do 01:01:24.950 --> 01:01:28.470 these fucking night raids to be put in that motherfucking meat grinder 01:01:28.470 --> 01:01:29.350 at the end of the day. 01:01:29.510 --> 01:01:31.030 So fuck your patriotism. 01:01:31.350 --> 01:01:34.790 I understand your heart is a good place and I ain't trying to shit 01:01:34.790 --> 01:01:38.610 on people that have served, but you are being brainwashed. 01:01:39.770 --> 01:01:43.790 And that's why my stance on patriotism is fuck that shit. 01:01:47.170 --> 01:01:51.530 Yeah, if I can chime in on that and I agree, I don't want anyone to think 01:01:51.530 --> 01:01:58.490 that I'm trying to to take, you know, to to punch on, I don't know. 01:01:58.610 --> 01:01:59.490 I lose my words here. 01:01:59.490 --> 01:02:02.610 But basically, I don't want anybody to think that I'm trying to shit on bets. 01:02:02.790 --> 01:02:07.330 OK, that is not what is happening here, but I echoed that sentiment as well. 01:02:07.330 --> 01:02:10.370 And I have a small anecdote to add to that. 01:02:10.670 --> 01:02:14.450 So recently there's something there's a program here in the States 01:02:14.450 --> 01:02:15.890 that's called an honor flight. 01:02:16.070 --> 01:02:18.930 OK, so this is a basically a charity. 01:02:19.550 --> 01:02:23.690 And what they do is within that region, they accepted missions 01:02:23.690 --> 01:02:26.230 of vets that they want to honor. 01:02:26.390 --> 01:02:29.590 And it's called one last mission for an honor flight. 01:02:29.910 --> 01:02:33.050 So what they do is every vet has a guardian. 01:02:33.050 --> 01:02:35.570 So a member of friend or family who's escorting them. 01:02:35.570 --> 01:02:41.250 And what they are able to do is take a flight that day to D.C. 01:02:41.730 --> 01:02:45.490 And they tour all the war monuments, so they also are able to meet people 01:02:45.490 --> 01:02:50.350 in their area that are not only geographically close to them, 01:02:50.350 --> 01:02:55.070 but oftentimes a lot of other veterans for whatever war that they were a part of. 01:02:55.290 --> 01:02:58.090 OK, so my grandfather was part of this. 01:02:58.210 --> 01:03:02.410 And I volunteered at the essentially what was the orientation. 01:03:02.410 --> 01:03:08.410 And I saw a lot of vets coming in and I see these guys. 01:03:08.750 --> 01:03:11.330 They were identified by the word that they fought in. 01:03:11.590 --> 01:03:17.090 And I was seeing a lot of Vietnam vets, you know, and this this really bothered me. 01:03:18.790 --> 01:03:21.530 Some of the guys were Purple Heart recipients. 01:03:22.450 --> 01:03:27.510 And to notate that or to honor them, they gave them a purple 01:03:28.030 --> 01:03:32.250 lay, a plastic lay necklace that was purple. 01:03:33.470 --> 01:03:37.050 And I know that they were trying to do something nice for these guys. 01:03:37.130 --> 01:03:39.010 And my grandfather did it and he had amazing day. 01:03:39.190 --> 01:03:39.950 He felt honored. 01:03:40.090 --> 01:03:41.870 He felt that he was treated very, very well. 01:03:41.930 --> 01:03:43.450 And I was very happy for that. 01:03:43.750 --> 01:03:48.850 But on the other hand, I couldn't help but wonder the guys that I was seeing, 01:03:48.950 --> 01:03:52.310 the guys that could barely walk, the guys that seemed to have 01:03:53.390 --> 01:03:56.790 so much grief in their body, on their face. 01:03:58.470 --> 01:04:00.470 What did they have to see? 01:04:00.950 --> 01:04:02.050 Who did they lose? 01:04:02.530 --> 01:04:07.930 And what did they have to participate in that has never left them to this day? 01:04:08.210 --> 01:04:09.930 And yet we're giving you a purple lay. 01:04:10.270 --> 01:04:10.810 It just felt. 01:04:12.350 --> 01:04:16.190 I was conflicted by that, you know, and yeah. 01:04:16.190 --> 01:04:18.710 It's kind of like when I've been to 9 11. 01:04:19.450 --> 01:04:26.050 Um, ground zero and these, uh, government run little kiosks are selling. 01:04:26.430 --> 01:04:29.850 We never forget 9 11 motherfuckers. 01:04:30.050 --> 01:04:30.610 You did it. 01:04:30.690 --> 01:04:32.290 And now you're selling me a fucking hat. 01:04:32.510 --> 01:04:34.130 The fuck out of here with this shit. 01:04:34.850 --> 01:04:35.750 You know what I'm saying? 01:04:35.870 --> 01:04:36.990 Yeah, it feels perverse. 01:04:37.110 --> 01:04:39.990 It feels not good, you know. 01:04:40.730 --> 01:04:42.350 And so, yeah, I agree. 01:04:42.710 --> 01:04:47.170 And and here's the other thing that I do not want to neglect the fact 01:04:47.170 --> 01:04:50.830 to talk about not only were these people treated as bait, 01:04:50.930 --> 01:04:53.890 not only were they considered completely expendable. 01:04:54.390 --> 01:05:00.930 The at a point, the war managers has had decided that they had already 01:05:00.930 --> 01:05:04.450 had enough of like a college educated people killed. 01:05:04.730 --> 01:05:06.290 So who do you think was there? 01:05:06.490 --> 01:05:07.630 It was the working class. 01:05:07.770 --> 01:05:08.630 It was the blue collar. 01:05:08.790 --> 01:05:12.490 It was minorities and it was rural poor white people. 01:05:12.610 --> 01:05:14.850 That is who was expendable to them. 01:05:15.510 --> 01:05:18.490 And that is very upsetting to me. 01:05:18.690 --> 01:05:20.430 Treating these people like they mean nothing. 01:05:20.810 --> 01:05:21.950 And that's exactly what happened. 01:05:22.090 --> 01:05:25.730 And the other thing that I want to say is in this, what I was saying 01:05:25.730 --> 01:05:29.630 as far as looking at it from a business perspective, they actually 01:05:29.630 --> 01:05:33.370 had something called an index efficiency score. 01:05:33.730 --> 01:05:37.510 So this stuck out to me as well, because this seemed like a prototype 01:05:37.510 --> 01:05:40.210 for even like a social credit score. 01:05:40.290 --> 01:05:44.270 But essentially this was a rubric that these companies were kept. 01:05:44.270 --> 01:05:48.470 So your body count was very important and something that he talks about 01:05:48.470 --> 01:05:52.730 in his in the videos that Weezy was talking about that we watched 01:05:53.450 --> 01:05:57.870 is that people would fight over body parts because it was that important 01:05:58.490 --> 01:06:01.310 to say that you had this body count. 01:06:01.530 --> 01:06:05.330 And the reason for this was, first of all, depending on if it was 01:06:05.330 --> 01:06:09.230 like the Navy or if it was air or if it was ground, a lot of times 01:06:09.230 --> 01:06:13.790 they would throw body counts to the Navy or to the air patrol. 01:06:13.790 --> 01:06:16.890 Because those people, it was important to them as well. 01:06:17.050 --> 01:06:19.750 And if you didn't, then there could potentially be life or death 01:06:19.750 --> 01:06:23.910 consequences if they held a grudge against you, the war or the grunts. 01:06:24.190 --> 01:06:26.990 So maybe we don't respond as quickly to your company 01:06:26.990 --> 01:06:29.550 if you didn't give us part of our body count. 01:06:30.010 --> 01:06:32.250 And so they would do this over body parts. 01:06:32.350 --> 01:06:33.770 They would do this if they find graves. 01:06:33.950 --> 01:06:37.150 They would try to find prisoners of war and they had essentially 01:06:37.150 --> 01:06:41.750 what was a debit and credit type system for their index efficiency. 01:06:43.870 --> 01:06:46.370 And he talks about this in the book. 01:06:46.550 --> 01:06:50.130 American lives should have been a debit, but only sometimes 01:06:50.130 --> 01:06:52.230 was it considered a debit, not always. 01:06:52.670 --> 01:06:55.750 And so the main focus for these people, for the war managers, 01:06:55.930 --> 01:06:59.990 for the people at the top, for the people that were safe, was body count. 01:07:00.410 --> 01:07:06.330 And part of that was due to the ideology that they could bankrupt 01:07:07.890 --> 01:07:12.170 the enemy, the other, the foreign other, that they could bankrupt them 01:07:12.170 --> 01:07:13.530 and that they could wear them out. 01:07:13.650 --> 01:07:18.510 So as long as we're killing 10 of them for every American, then we're winning. 01:07:18.970 --> 01:07:23.170 So that was the other thing is their their designation of what was a win 01:07:23.170 --> 01:07:24.330 and what was a loss. OK. 01:07:25.210 --> 01:07:26.670 So I think that that's really important. 01:07:26.770 --> 01:07:32.830 And the other thing that I want to talk about is conscription. OK. 01:07:32.830 --> 01:07:37.870 So we know that in the Vietnam War, that people were drafted 01:07:37.870 --> 01:07:39.450 into this war against their will. 01:07:39.970 --> 01:07:43.570 Now, us as regular civilians, we have no idea who's who 01:07:43.570 --> 01:07:46.750 unless you have an actual conversation with these people, like of them 01:07:47.890 --> 01:07:50.950 joining of their will or people that were conscripted. 01:07:51.710 --> 01:07:56.170 But it was approximately I've seen varying numbers, 01:07:56.170 --> 01:07:58.530 but basically two million fighting 01:07:58.530 --> 01:08:03.090 age men were conscripted into this war, to this limited war, 01:08:03.910 --> 01:08:05.610 which is really incredible. 01:08:05.830 --> 01:08:08.970 And let me ask you this, because it is that in the curve, pretty much. 01:08:09.230 --> 01:08:10.410 Yes. Yes. Bullshit. 01:08:10.450 --> 01:08:10.910 100 percent. 01:08:11.350 --> 01:08:13.930 And actually, I'm so glad that you brought up the COVID narrative 01:08:13.930 --> 01:08:17.610 because not only was this, you know, like Gladio, Phoenix, 01:08:18.250 --> 01:08:20.190 strategy of tension, strategy of terror 01:08:22.310 --> 01:08:28.030 important to the fear aspect, but the perverse incentives was used here. 01:08:28.030 --> 01:08:32.110 Now, I'm sure this is not the only example, but we saw or we were told 01:08:32.110 --> 01:08:36.790 that hospitals were perversely incentivized to diagnose you with COVID. 01:08:37.250 --> 01:08:39.450 They even changed the the diagnostic 01:08:40.930 --> 01:08:43.630 requirements to be able to just look at you and say that you had COVID 01:08:43.630 --> 01:08:45.010 and that they would get money for that. 01:08:45.330 --> 01:08:47.570 They would get money for maybe a PCR test. 01:08:47.750 --> 01:08:50.290 We know the PCR tests are alive per Kerry Mullis. 01:08:50.670 --> 01:08:52.510 We know that those could also be manipulated. 01:08:52.670 --> 01:08:56.150 We know that they manipulated who was considered vaccinated and who wasn't. 01:08:56.150 --> 01:08:58.570 We know that they would give people room to severe. 01:08:58.750 --> 01:09:01.490 We know that they would incubate or intubate people. 01:09:01.530 --> 01:09:04.010 Excuse me. And for all of these levels 01:09:04.590 --> 01:09:07.650 that they could be very heavily financially incentivized. 01:09:07.730 --> 01:09:11.630 And this was the same thing in Vietnam in this index efficiency. 01:09:12.070 --> 01:09:16.610 People were able to use this as their way to try to move up 01:09:17.290 --> 01:09:20.370 and maybe move up to safety, maybe move up for more money. 01:09:20.370 --> 01:09:22.230 Like, who knows what their motivation was. 01:09:22.230 --> 01:09:26.230 But essentially, it was easy to move up at first. 01:09:26.830 --> 01:09:30.630 And then after that, there was a very limited amount of positions that could be had. 01:09:30.650 --> 01:09:33.770 So there was very heavy competition for being able to move up 01:09:33.770 --> 01:09:35.190 and move into a different position. 01:09:35.750 --> 01:09:40.790 So that was part of establishing a record that we have now 01:09:40.790 --> 01:09:45.450 of perverse incentives for people to lie, for people to kill innocent people 01:09:45.990 --> 01:09:47.670 because they needed body count. 01:09:48.150 --> 01:09:50.310 And then that also circles back to the fact 01:09:50.310 --> 01:09:52.770 that the that our guys were used as bait. 01:09:52.990 --> 01:09:54.910 And and this is also talked about in the book. 01:09:55.130 --> 01:09:57.810 Not only is this that you're going on a night mission 01:09:57.810 --> 01:10:02.410 and something may happen to you, this is them knowing them, 01:10:02.670 --> 01:10:05.990 having information and knowing that it was dangerous for you. 01:10:06.170 --> 01:10:10.950 And I'm not telling you, even though I'm in a leadership role 01:10:11.470 --> 01:10:13.970 because I'm fine with you getting blown up. 01:10:14.410 --> 01:10:19.070 Yeah, one of the more troubling things that I learned this week 01:10:19.070 --> 01:10:23.850 was how the grunts of people on the ground, the people that got fucked up 01:10:23.850 --> 01:10:28.530 and were sent into the meat grinder, they were there with their captains. 01:10:28.690 --> 01:10:29.510 And that was about it. 01:10:29.910 --> 01:10:33.810 All the overhead, all the Brigadier Generals, the fucking Generals, 01:10:33.890 --> 01:10:38.850 all this fucking shit, they would be watching what was going on. 01:10:39.110 --> 01:10:43.170 But they were 1500 feet up in the fucking air. 01:10:44.610 --> 01:10:46.310 Why 1500 feet? 01:10:47.150 --> 01:10:50.070 Because that is the range of a fucking bullet. 01:10:50.410 --> 01:10:55.610 It goes 1500, 1500 feet up in the air, and then it goes back down. 01:10:55.890 --> 01:10:56.970 That's exactly right. 01:10:57.990 --> 01:11:01.990 These motherfuckers, it was like a video game to these fucking elites, 01:11:02.190 --> 01:11:05.530 these overheads, watching this shit, like, oh, shit. 01:11:05.650 --> 01:11:09.250 Those motherfuckers got fucked up and who the fuck knows. 01:11:09.350 --> 01:11:10.990 They were probably enjoying it the whole time. 01:11:10.990 --> 01:11:15.730 Um, they they were completely out of harm's way. 01:11:16.430 --> 01:11:21.210 And meanwhile, the grunts, the people that were expendable, quote, unquote, 01:11:21.810 --> 01:11:24.670 got sent down and fucked up, man. 01:11:25.130 --> 01:11:28.550 And then I mean, real quick, Dick Cheney, 01:11:29.130 --> 01:11:33.670 that evil fucking scumbag died this week. 01:11:34.970 --> 01:11:36.230 He was a draft dodger. 01:11:37.670 --> 01:11:38.990 He was a draft dodger. 01:11:38.990 --> 01:11:44.210 He didn't go to Vietnam, but he didn't have no motherfucking problems 01:11:44.210 --> 01:11:47.450 and sending motherfuckers into Iraq and Afghanistan. 01:11:48.030 --> 01:11:50.310 Exactly. Zero fucking issue. 01:11:50.450 --> 01:11:52.990 But that motherfucker pushed out when it was his turn. 01:11:54.030 --> 01:11:56.930 These fucking scumbags each and every time. 01:11:57.990 --> 01:12:00.270 Every time, every time. 01:12:00.570 --> 01:12:04.830 And it's really upsetting to hear, like, if you start getting into 01:12:04.830 --> 01:12:07.790 some of the stories and some of the testimony of some of these guys, 01:12:07.790 --> 01:12:12.370 it is, um, it's really sad, you know, even it was that long ago, 01:12:12.370 --> 01:12:15.050 but there are a lot of Vietnam vets that are still around. 01:12:15.610 --> 01:12:19.710 And, um, somebody had commented and I don't want to neglect the fact 01:12:19.710 --> 01:12:22.730 that this was not only was this a testing ground for a lot of different things. 01:12:22.890 --> 01:12:25.330 This was a testing ground for chemical warfare. 01:12:25.490 --> 01:12:27.030 So they were spraying napalm. 01:12:27.050 --> 01:12:30.330 They were using Agent Orange and this was indiscriminate. 01:12:30.430 --> 01:12:33.850 They did not care if it was the Vietnam, the Vietnamese people 01:12:34.450 --> 01:12:37.070 that were affected by that or if it was American soldiers 01:12:37.070 --> 01:12:37.710 that were affected. 01:12:37.870 --> 01:12:42.510 And we know that so many of them came back after being exposed to Agent Orange 01:12:42.510 --> 01:12:44.630 with all kinds of health problems. 01:12:44.790 --> 01:12:49.990 And this is never mind the what they were referring to as a post Vietnam syndrome 01:12:49.990 --> 01:12:54.590 as from the mental aspects of what they saw and how they essentially 01:12:54.590 --> 01:12:56.790 had no care in coming back. 01:12:56.950 --> 01:12:57.290 No. 01:12:57.410 --> 01:13:00.190 And I don't even know how much care would make a difference 01:13:00.770 --> 01:13:03.630 after what they went through, but they didn't have anything. 01:13:04.170 --> 01:13:05.810 They just, there was nothing. 01:13:05.810 --> 01:13:09.350 They just were, they just came back and like what Weezy was saying, 01:13:09.490 --> 01:13:12.930 if you didn't meet your quota, if you didn't get your body count, 01:13:12.950 --> 01:13:15.770 they had no problem in sending you right back out there. 01:13:15.950 --> 01:13:18.590 So some of these guys were out here for a year. 01:13:19.150 --> 01:13:24.810 And, um, this is also in regards to getting towards the end of the war 01:13:24.810 --> 01:13:28.090 when people, especially this is something the author talks about 01:13:28.090 --> 01:13:32.870 in one of those videos that the, um, because the interviewers 01:13:32.870 --> 01:13:38.350 asked him how much or how important the anti-war movement was to them. 01:13:38.910 --> 01:13:43.730 And he said, I don't know that it was or wasn't that it may have been 01:13:43.730 --> 01:13:47.430 impactful to them, but that wasn't something that they often talked about. 01:13:47.430 --> 01:13:50.690 But some of the other issues that were happening back home when we're 01:13:50.690 --> 01:13:56.030 talking about the, um, the civil rights movement and the black 01:13:56.030 --> 01:13:59.430 power and the black Panthers, because a lot of the, uh, the black guys 01:13:59.430 --> 01:14:03.530 that were, uh, also there against their will, didn't want to be there. 01:14:04.470 --> 01:14:07.450 This is leading up to sort of this revolt. 01:14:08.070 --> 01:14:10.810 And back to what, uh, Weezy was talking about as far as 01:14:10.810 --> 01:14:14.970 fragging that they, they decided to, uh, kill their commander 01:14:14.970 --> 01:14:17.670 because they had had enough and they were trying to revolt. 01:14:17.950 --> 01:14:21.350 And, and you had high levels of suicide as well, which was 01:14:21.350 --> 01:14:24.870 fragging for those that are maybe not familiar with what fragging 01:14:24.870 --> 01:14:25.090 it was. 01:14:25.090 --> 01:14:29.190 So it fragging was basically a particular type of grenade 01:14:29.190 --> 01:14:32.110 and they would just take it, activate it, and they would throw 01:14:32.110 --> 01:14:36.310 it at their, um, their commanding officer and their commanding officer. 01:14:36.570 --> 01:14:37.110 Think about that. 01:14:37.510 --> 01:14:41.050 This is how pissed off, um, and war weary. 01:14:41.350 --> 01:14:42.870 A lot of these soldiers got their life. 01:14:43.070 --> 01:14:44.010 Fuck this motherfucker. 01:14:44.190 --> 01:14:45.570 He doesn't give a fuck about us. 01:14:45.730 --> 01:14:46.830 Let's take his ass out. 01:14:47.150 --> 01:14:47.670 Yes. 01:14:48.050 --> 01:14:51.630 And some of the, the, I think the civil rights movement and 01:14:51.630 --> 01:14:56.150 like the, the awareness or the bringing to the forefront, the 01:14:56.150 --> 01:15:00.150 issues of race and, and things like that seemed at least to the 01:15:00.150 --> 01:15:02.810 author, they seem to be important and that people were 01:15:02.810 --> 01:15:05.090 realizing how they were being treated. 01:15:05.230 --> 01:15:07.990 And they probably were the whole time, but this is when I 01:15:07.990 --> 01:15:11.750 think if you are in that position, if you are deployed 01:15:11.750 --> 01:15:14.210 against your will and you're seeing all these atrocities 01:15:14.210 --> 01:15:16.530 and, and you know that you're, you're treated with 01:15:16.530 --> 01:15:21.330 such little disregard, the amount of, um, fatigue, the 01:15:21.330 --> 01:15:24.870 amount of hopelessness that you must feel in order to 01:15:24.870 --> 01:15:29.070 frag your commanding officer is really, really incredible. 01:15:29.330 --> 01:15:30.390 And they were fatigued. 01:15:30.550 --> 01:15:32.610 They were exhausted from this and they were tired of 01:15:32.610 --> 01:15:33.490 being treated this way. 01:15:33.810 --> 01:15:37.350 And, um, there were some suicides as well. 01:15:37.370 --> 01:15:39.270 And I was thinking about this today. 01:15:39.370 --> 01:15:43.090 It was like, it's, it is like being in prison, but it's 01:15:43.090 --> 01:15:46.590 worse than prison in some ways, worse than slavery, 01:15:46.590 --> 01:15:49.750 because for the people that were, and I don't mean to 01:15:49.750 --> 01:15:50.330 minimize slavery. 01:15:50.330 --> 01:15:53.110 I'm not saying that, but I'm saying that you, you were 01:15:53.110 --> 01:15:55.530 enslaved because you were conscripted to be there 01:15:55.530 --> 01:15:56.370 against your will. 01:15:56.530 --> 01:15:58.710 You're in a foreign country and you're being treated 01:15:59.250 --> 01:16:02.990 like nothing that you could be blown to bits at any minute. 01:16:03.230 --> 01:16:04.890 You were, you were forced to be there. 01:16:05.090 --> 01:16:08.050 And then on top of that, once people, the American 01:16:08.050 --> 01:16:11.530 public started getting war fatigue, you came back 01:16:12.090 --> 01:16:13.590 and you were treated like shit. 01:16:13.650 --> 01:16:15.450 So you were treated by shit by the fucking 01:16:15.450 --> 01:16:18.110 government that sent your ass over there and put 01:16:18.110 --> 01:16:19.170 you in the fucking meat grinder. 01:16:19.170 --> 01:16:21.410 Then you come back and everyone was like, fuck you. 01:16:21.810 --> 01:16:24.670 You fucking, you, you wore criminal bitch. 01:16:24.770 --> 01:16:26.150 I didn't even want to be there. 01:16:26.270 --> 01:16:29.350 You're like, you know, that would be a fucking 01:16:29.350 --> 01:16:31.630 difficult spot to be in. 01:16:32.030 --> 01:16:32.950 You didn't want to be there. 01:16:33.090 --> 01:16:34.150 You were forced to be there. 01:16:34.390 --> 01:16:36.390 Then you come back and you're looked at scum 01:16:36.390 --> 01:16:38.990 because finally the people started waking up and 01:16:38.990 --> 01:16:40.590 started, uh, revolting. 01:16:41.730 --> 01:16:45.510 One of the, I mean, what comes to mind is, uh, 01:16:45.510 --> 01:16:49.570 Muhammad Ali, Muhammad Ali dodged the draft 01:16:50.270 --> 01:16:53.310 and he was asked why he was a draft that they 01:16:53.310 --> 01:16:55.810 were trying to shame him for not wanting to go to 01:16:55.810 --> 01:16:58.530 Vietnam. It's like, why am I going to shoot 01:16:58.530 --> 01:17:00.710 some motherfucking Vietnamesees? 01:17:01.570 --> 01:17:03.330 They got no fucking issue with me. 01:17:03.770 --> 01:17:04.890 They never did anything to me. 01:17:05.010 --> 01:17:06.550 Yeah, they didn't do shit to me. 01:17:06.730 --> 01:17:08.090 Why the fuck am I going over there? 01:17:09.510 --> 01:17:12.970 And for someone that high profile, like, God damn, 01:17:12.970 --> 01:17:15.590 that shit, that shit, that shit hits. 01:17:16.310 --> 01:17:18.450 He's like, fuck you and your wars. 01:17:18.710 --> 01:17:20.210 And that's my attitude today. 01:17:20.790 --> 01:17:21.990 You know, when I was younger, 01:17:22.970 --> 01:17:25.110 I was entertaining going into the Marines. 01:17:26.450 --> 01:17:29.410 I, you know, I was like, I'm going to, I'm going 01:17:29.410 --> 01:17:29.990 to go to the Marines. 01:17:30.130 --> 01:17:31.030 I want to serve my country. 01:17:31.910 --> 01:17:33.110 That's some bad ass shit. 01:17:35.410 --> 01:17:37.830 And the more I thought about it, I was like. 01:17:39.130 --> 01:17:42.690 And this is this is young, wheezy, man. 01:17:43.370 --> 01:17:44.970 You know, I was I was in my teens. 01:17:45.090 --> 01:17:45.750 I was like 19. 01:17:46.090 --> 01:17:48.470 I remember this because I was really thinking 01:17:48.470 --> 01:17:50.730 about going to the Marines right after high school. 01:17:52.170 --> 01:17:53.730 And I thought about it. 01:17:53.790 --> 01:17:54.590 I'm like, you know what? 01:17:55.830 --> 01:17:57.090 I couldn't shoot someone. 01:17:57.910 --> 01:17:59.150 I couldn't kill someone. 01:18:00.930 --> 01:18:04.110 Because my government is telling me that dude is the bad guy. 01:18:06.530 --> 01:18:10.630 That other dude, who I shoot at and who's shooting at me, 01:18:10.810 --> 01:18:14.890 his government is telling them that I'm the fucking bad guy. 01:18:16.530 --> 01:18:17.530 What if I'm wrong? 01:18:17.690 --> 01:18:19.030 What if I'm the fucking bad guy? 01:18:20.110 --> 01:18:22.270 And so I was like, nah, fuck that shit. 01:18:22.750 --> 01:18:26.010 So young me, that's why I didn't go to the fucking Marines. 01:18:26.170 --> 01:18:27.290 I was that fucking close. 01:18:27.950 --> 01:18:30.330 A lot of people don't realize I was very fucking close 01:18:30.330 --> 01:18:31.730 to joining the Marines. 01:18:32.850 --> 01:18:34.970 And when I thought about it, thought about it, 01:18:34.970 --> 01:18:36.810 like I can't pull the trigger on no motherfucker. 01:18:37.790 --> 01:18:38.610 You know what I'm saying? 01:18:38.890 --> 01:18:40.850 I don't have the heart to kill anyone. 01:18:42.550 --> 01:18:45.050 Because they're probably getting told the same shit 01:18:45.050 --> 01:18:45.930 that I'm getting told. 01:18:46.610 --> 01:18:47.990 Yes. So it's. 01:18:48.950 --> 01:18:49.630 I wasn't. 01:18:49.830 --> 01:18:51.530 I wouldn't say I was anti-war at the time, 01:18:51.610 --> 01:18:54.670 but that's just the way my my brain processed it. 01:18:55.210 --> 01:18:56.150 I was like, I can't do that. 01:18:56.390 --> 01:18:59.090 I can't pull that fucking trigger on a human being. 01:18:59.850 --> 01:19:02.850 And now, all these years later, I'm the same fucking way. 01:19:03.010 --> 01:19:04.350 I could never do that. 01:19:04.870 --> 01:19:07.950 And so fuck all governments, fuck our regimes, 01:19:08.370 --> 01:19:11.130 fuck all this warmongering that they're always pushing on us 01:19:11.130 --> 01:19:13.890 with these false flags, with these bullshit events 01:19:13.890 --> 01:19:17.870 to get us excited to go into fucking these never ending wars 01:19:17.870 --> 01:19:21.630 that only fatten the pockets of these big cats in Wall Street. 01:19:22.050 --> 01:19:24.650 Meanwhile, the average person like you and I 01:19:24.650 --> 01:19:27.990 we get sent down to the meat grinder to fuck all that shit. 01:19:29.090 --> 01:19:31.290 One hundred percent and something that I was thinking about 01:19:31.290 --> 01:19:32.270 when you were talking about this. 01:19:32.290 --> 01:19:34.930 So you're you're in high school when you're thinking, first of all, 01:19:34.950 --> 01:19:37.570 that's pretty good forethought for a young guy to think. 01:19:37.910 --> 01:19:39.790 I don't think I could actually shoot somebody. 01:19:40.330 --> 01:19:41.770 And what if I'm in the wrong? 01:19:41.930 --> 01:19:45.870 Things like this, a lot of times young kids don't think about that. 01:19:45.990 --> 01:19:49.210 And I thought about it as well when I was in high school. 01:19:49.230 --> 01:19:51.970 I didn't think I had what it took, but I had considered it. 01:19:52.350 --> 01:19:56.370 And this is something that I want to point out is that in so we know 01:19:56.370 --> 01:19:59.910 as far as like the deliberate dumbing down of America 01:20:00.570 --> 01:20:05.810 that the Rockefellers had interest in creating good workers, 01:20:06.650 --> 01:20:12.670 not not good thinkers, not critical thinkers, right? 01:20:12.750 --> 01:20:14.670 So we know that we sort of had this infiltration 01:20:14.670 --> 01:20:18.130 in in this interest in dumbing down the American population. 01:20:18.130 --> 01:20:19.730 But here's something else. 01:20:20.130 --> 01:20:24.190 The military actively recruits in high school. 01:20:24.190 --> 01:20:28.630 So you go to lunch at school and you have a couple of military guys 01:20:28.630 --> 01:20:31.510 that are setting up at a little table trying to recruit you. 01:20:33.030 --> 01:20:35.030 And where are they going? 01:20:35.550 --> 01:20:37.890 Right. So I lived in an area with high poverty 01:20:38.870 --> 01:20:41.330 and they were often in our lunchroom. 01:20:41.710 --> 01:20:44.370 So this and I don't have all the numbers exactly. 01:20:44.550 --> 01:20:46.310 But I'm just wondering, where do they go? 01:20:46.630 --> 01:20:47.710 Where do these recruiters go? 01:20:47.810 --> 01:20:50.810 Do you think that they're going to the wealthy, affluent private schools? 01:20:50.810 --> 01:20:55.010 No, they're going to poor impoverished areas 01:20:55.010 --> 01:21:00.710 because the system is a predator and you are the prey. 01:21:00.930 --> 01:21:04.790 You, as a 17 year old, as a 16 year old, as an 18 year old, 01:21:04.790 --> 01:21:06.370 you are who they want. 01:21:07.370 --> 01:21:11.410 And for people that can't afford college, for people that may feel 01:21:11.410 --> 01:21:15.550 that they don't have anything else going for them, that they don't have money, 01:21:15.710 --> 01:21:19.690 that they don't have a future or a plan for their future, 01:21:19.690 --> 01:21:22.110 then maybe that looks good to them. 01:21:22.330 --> 01:21:26.730 Maybe some security, maybe some GI bill is enough incentive for them 01:21:27.290 --> 01:21:28.430 to go into it. 01:21:28.690 --> 01:21:31.590 And certainly you're sold on a bill of goods. 01:21:31.850 --> 01:21:32.950 You're sold on all those things. 01:21:34.610 --> 01:21:36.050 And what do you get? 01:21:37.850 --> 01:21:38.950 You get the meat grinder. 01:21:40.150 --> 01:21:44.230 Yeah, yeah, I'm vehemently anti-war these days. 01:21:44.970 --> 01:21:47.450 Blake called in last week and this is what he says. 01:21:48.410 --> 01:21:51.330 Dr. Blake, he's a supporter of the show as well. 01:21:51.530 --> 01:21:56.070 But I will never forgive my government, my countrymen and my colleagues 01:21:56.070 --> 01:21:59.910 for convincing me to damn near sell my soul as a soul. 01:22:01.150 --> 01:22:01.430 Sure. 01:22:01.990 --> 01:22:03.170 And almost succeeding. 01:22:03.550 --> 01:22:05.470 Luckily, I figured it out before that happened. 01:22:06.150 --> 01:22:08.390 Yeah, I think a lot of people are waking up. 01:22:08.930 --> 01:22:10.990 A lot of people are becoming anti-war because. 01:22:13.130 --> 01:22:15.630 You're realizing you're getting propagandized. 01:22:16.470 --> 01:22:19.870 The government is telling you to hate those motherfuckers. 01:22:20.790 --> 01:22:22.530 They want you to hate the Chinese. 01:22:22.810 --> 01:22:24.090 They want you to hate the Russians. 01:22:25.130 --> 01:22:27.170 They want you to hate the others. 01:22:27.750 --> 01:22:28.750 It's always the others. 01:22:29.390 --> 01:22:33.570 Meanwhile, these quote unquote others in their respective countries 01:22:33.570 --> 01:22:37.850 are getting told the same fucking thing by their government 01:22:37.850 --> 01:22:42.130 and leaders about us, that the Americans are the bad guys, blah, blah, 01:22:42.890 --> 01:22:44.290 we're all getting brainwashed. 01:22:46.320 --> 01:22:48.450 It's one world government already. 01:22:49.470 --> 01:22:51.610 I talked about it the other day. 01:22:52.150 --> 01:22:54.910 Covid-19 to me was the biggest evidence of that shit. 01:22:55.210 --> 01:23:00.370 The way our enemies like China, like Russia, the way they handle 01:23:00.370 --> 01:23:03.190 Covid, exactly the same fucking way. 01:23:03.850 --> 01:23:07.830 Us little, the regular folk in our respective countries, 01:23:07.930 --> 01:23:10.990 it doesn't matter if it's Russia or China, we're getting told 01:23:11.340 --> 01:23:13.810 the same fucking shit by our overhead. 01:23:14.230 --> 01:23:17.050 Fuck those guys, those are the bad guys, we're the good guys. 01:23:17.390 --> 01:23:21.230 Now get in line, put on your boots and head into that meat grinder head first. 01:23:22.890 --> 01:23:26.390 And unfortunately, a lot of people will lace up those boots. 01:23:28.830 --> 01:23:33.630 Unfortunately, some people just don't put two and two together. 01:23:35.050 --> 01:23:36.190 For me, it was age. 01:23:37.410 --> 01:23:39.370 Now that I'm older, I'm like, fuck that shit. 01:23:39.470 --> 01:23:40.930 I told you I was in Walmart today. 01:23:40.930 --> 01:23:44.250 I heard this old gentleman on the intercom. 01:23:45.070 --> 01:23:49.670 You know, give him praise to the troops and shit like that. 01:23:49.990 --> 01:23:52.970 I get the sentiment, but fuck all that shit. 01:23:53.470 --> 01:23:55.510 Fuck all that shit, vehemently. 01:23:56.890 --> 01:24:01.050 You know, it may sound sacrilegious to some, but this is why it's all fucking 01:24:01.050 --> 01:24:03.890 propaganda to do the government's dirty deeds. 01:24:04.250 --> 01:24:05.130 Fuck all that shit. 01:24:05.270 --> 01:24:07.910 I am vehemently 100 percent against that. 01:24:09.590 --> 01:24:17.110 Yeah, I obviously, I agree with that 100 percent and it is a challenge to see 01:24:17.110 --> 01:24:20.470 that type of rhetoric because you know that the people, the vets that they're 01:24:20.470 --> 01:24:25.130 thinking that they were considered expendable by the people who stayed safe, 01:24:25.210 --> 01:24:28.950 by the people who kept making money off the backs of the regular 01:24:28.950 --> 01:24:30.370 person that they sent over there. 01:24:32.390 --> 01:24:37.890 So I think that as far as the basic, the basic, the basic, 01:24:37.890 --> 01:24:42.350 overview of things that I wanted to talk about in regards to Vietnam. 01:24:42.790 --> 01:24:46.350 So I want to be very clear, this is not even close to all of it. 01:24:46.410 --> 01:24:51.150 I'm sure that I left some things out or missed some things, but just 01:24:51.150 --> 01:24:57.790 some basics about that situation in general, I wanted to cover because I 01:24:57.790 --> 01:25:00.950 think it's really important in, for a lot of reasons, like what we're 01:25:00.950 --> 01:25:05.070 talking about today, as far as like these patterns that were established 01:25:05.070 --> 01:25:09.230 here or patterns that were being repeated that we still see happening and 01:25:09.230 --> 01:25:14.110 then these connections for all of these people all the way up still to this day. 01:25:14.310 --> 01:25:21.510 Can I say one thing that, that kind of bothers me in a way, you know, I 01:25:21.510 --> 01:25:27.970 remember growing up as a kid and hearing some Vietnam vets talking about 01:25:27.970 --> 01:25:37.330 the gooks in Vietnam and they really had this visceral hate for Asian folks. 01:25:40.110 --> 01:25:41.850 I didn't understand it as a kid. 01:25:42.610 --> 01:25:43.970 It's like, what the fuck, you know? 01:25:45.650 --> 01:25:50.090 And not that I condone it, but yeah, the fucking hell that they were put 01:25:50.090 --> 01:25:51.930 through and shit like that, I get it. 01:25:52.270 --> 01:25:56.310 But now that I'm older and I've processed so much of this shit, 01:25:58.030 --> 01:26:04.230 okay, you're mad because gorilla attacks, you're in their fucking land and 01:26:04.230 --> 01:26:09.990 they're defending it and they did a hell of a fucking job because when we went 01:26:09.990 --> 01:26:14.670 in there, we thought technology, we had so much more money than the Vietnamese. 01:26:15.090 --> 01:26:19.570 We had so much more technology and the motherfucking Vietnamese like, 01:26:19.570 --> 01:26:21.110 fuck you, get the fuck out of here. 01:26:22.150 --> 01:26:25.810 And in a weird way, I got, I got respect for that shit. 01:26:26.310 --> 01:26:29.110 Because they fucking, they defended their shit. 01:26:30.170 --> 01:26:34.430 Like the Native Americans, you know, try to do like, get the fuck out of here. 01:26:34.850 --> 01:26:35.610 We don't want you here. 01:26:35.870 --> 01:26:36.890 Get the fuck out of here. 01:26:38.550 --> 01:26:41.990 And that little point may sound controversial to some people. 01:26:42.390 --> 01:26:46.770 But when I process it, I think about they were fucking fighting for their. 01:26:48.310 --> 01:26:54.190 We get told about the 50,000 plus American soldiers that died that got killed. 01:26:55.050 --> 01:27:00.930 How many Vietnamese died through the Phoenix program alone? 01:27:01.410 --> 01:27:04.890 We only hear, we hear numbers from 20 to 40,000. 01:27:05.530 --> 01:27:09.930 That's 20 to 40,000 is the number there. 01:27:10.170 --> 01:27:10.950 They don't even know. 01:27:11.050 --> 01:27:17.170 There's a 20,000 discrepancy number that in that 20,000 could have been someone's mom. 01:27:17.410 --> 01:27:20.690 Could have been someone's kid, someone's daughter. 01:27:21.650 --> 01:27:27.130 20,000 body count and discrepancy, 20,000 to 40,000 Vietnamese, 01:27:27.730 --> 01:27:29.150 just the Phoenix program alone. 01:27:29.770 --> 01:27:34.050 That's not including the fucking hand-to-hand combat, the fucking, 01:27:34.250 --> 01:27:39.570 the napalm fucking fire bombs that they plowed through. 01:27:40.570 --> 01:27:45.950 Easily a couple million Vietnamese died and that rarely ever gets talked about. 01:27:45.950 --> 01:27:46.590 Yes. 01:27:47.010 --> 01:27:50.990 And I wanted to talk about because one little known fact 01:27:52.450 --> 01:27:59.410 that you won't hear too many places or in regards to Vietnam is the Americans dropped 01:27:59.970 --> 01:28:09.890 7.5 million bombs in Vietnam, 7.5 million fucking bombs in Vietnam. 01:28:10.510 --> 01:28:16.070 That to put it in perspective, that is three times more the amount 01:28:16.890 --> 01:28:21.450 than all of the allies combined in World War II. 01:28:23.030 --> 01:28:31.930 I just said that process that for a minute, 7.5 million bombs dropped in Vietnam. 01:28:33.270 --> 01:28:34.030 Yeah. 01:28:34.250 --> 01:28:37.190 And could I just more than the allies combined? 01:28:37.720 --> 01:28:42.470 That is a staggering fucking figure that you won't hear too many people ever talk about. 01:28:43.790 --> 01:28:44.330 Yes. 01:28:44.510 --> 01:28:45.850 And that's a great point. 01:28:45.930 --> 01:28:47.010 I'm glad that you brought that up. 01:28:47.290 --> 01:28:53.910 And it is the total that we have is approximately 3.1 million Vietnamese deaths. 01:28:54.150 --> 01:28:54.330 Okay. 01:28:54.630 --> 01:28:59.050 So this is something that I also find very disturbing because we have other 01:28:59.670 --> 01:29:03.270 events in history that are talked about very, very often. 01:29:03.270 --> 01:29:08.310 And that is considered like the cornerstone of atrocity, the cornerstone of genocide, 01:29:08.770 --> 01:29:12.130 the cornerstone of the worst things that can happen. 01:29:12.350 --> 01:29:13.630 This should be talked about. 01:29:14.790 --> 01:29:17.410 This should be talked about, but it's not. 01:29:18.210 --> 01:29:19.790 Nobody ever talks about that 3 million. 01:29:20.290 --> 01:29:24.570 They don't talk about 2 million soldiers being conscripted against their will either. 01:29:25.410 --> 01:29:30.770 And the other point that the author makes is in regards to what you're saying as far as 01:29:31.650 --> 01:29:33.830 the bombs, he talks about this. 01:29:33.950 --> 01:29:36.970 He's like, so they're saying that they wanted to what? 01:29:37.250 --> 01:29:39.530 Protect the South Vietnam from communism. 01:29:39.530 --> 01:29:42.830 And yet they destroyed it. 01:29:43.530 --> 01:29:45.030 They burned it down. 01:29:46.010 --> 01:29:47.730 They cleared out the countryside. 01:29:48.470 --> 01:29:51.990 They displaced these people from their homes, from their lands. 01:29:52.150 --> 01:29:54.090 10 million Vietnamese lost their homes. 01:29:55.430 --> 01:29:56.710 They destroyed it. 01:29:57.150 --> 01:30:00.650 What are you protecting if it's completely, it's rubble? 01:30:01.670 --> 01:30:02.230 Go ahead. 01:30:02.810 --> 01:30:06.650 It's very reminiscent to what's going on in the present day. 01:30:07.030 --> 01:30:07.570 That's it. 01:30:07.850 --> 01:30:09.910 Yes, we're going to we're going to destroy Gaza. 01:30:10.110 --> 01:30:10.730 We're going to level it. 01:30:10.790 --> 01:30:12.830 We're going to put a Trump tower in Gaza. 01:30:14.170 --> 01:30:16.010 Fuck all the people already living there. 01:30:16.130 --> 01:30:16.870 Fuck all them. 01:30:17.390 --> 01:30:18.030 They're expendable. 01:30:18.470 --> 01:30:19.190 Who gives a fuck? 01:30:21.010 --> 01:30:23.050 Yeah, it's the same shit. 01:30:23.610 --> 01:30:25.570 I suppose I didn't even plan on it, man. 01:30:25.650 --> 01:30:29.790 But I suppose as we're going through this, the same shit different era. 01:30:29.790 --> 01:30:31.130 100 percent. 01:30:31.450 --> 01:30:32.730 It's repeat, man. 01:30:33.090 --> 01:30:34.430 Repeat it like your name. 01:30:35.450 --> 01:30:36.310 Think change and repeat. 01:30:36.950 --> 01:30:37.010 Yes. 01:30:37.390 --> 01:30:38.990 War crime, PSYOP, repeat. 01:30:40.550 --> 01:30:44.350 And I also didn't really put it together until we were, you know, 01:30:44.410 --> 01:30:47.050 I was like preparing for this episode and I was thinking, 01:30:47.430 --> 01:30:50.470 this is exactly what they're doing in Gaza, literally. 01:30:51.410 --> 01:30:55.270 Now, one thing that's slightly different is that they are, 01:30:56.130 --> 01:30:58.970 there has been so much footage of that. 01:30:59.790 --> 01:31:03.050 There was a false flag incident to kick it off, just like the Gulf of Tonkin. 01:31:03.230 --> 01:31:06.450 We have Hamas flying in on kites and whatever. 01:31:08.250 --> 01:31:10.810 And then bombed them back to the Stone Ages. 01:31:11.050 --> 01:31:12.650 And this is exactly what they did in Vietnam. 01:31:13.330 --> 01:31:17.810 And in the name of protecting the country from communism. 01:31:18.450 --> 01:31:20.450 So I think that that's a really important point. 01:31:20.610 --> 01:31:24.230 And it is something that has occurred to me just this week 01:31:24.230 --> 01:31:29.610 and going over this material that this is on display right now. 01:31:29.610 --> 01:31:31.170 As we speak, yeah. 01:31:31.970 --> 01:31:38.730 Well, and I also wanted to chime in that the Vietnam War was cast 01:31:38.730 --> 01:31:43.810 as the first televised war in modern times. 01:31:44.810 --> 01:31:47.330 But it was also heavily propagandized. 01:31:48.850 --> 01:31:51.150 And it took a while. 01:31:51.730 --> 01:31:55.730 It took a while before the public started to say, hey, what the fuck? 01:31:56.990 --> 01:32:00.930 You guys are showing this, that we're making all these gains and gains. 01:32:01.350 --> 01:32:03.590 But my mother fucking cousin just came back. 01:32:04.410 --> 01:32:08.830 And he's talking about the demoralization of all the fucking troops. 01:32:09.630 --> 01:32:14.590 So what I'm seeing on the fucking TV does not correlate with reality. 01:32:16.050 --> 01:32:18.890 In a much lesser extent, COVID. 01:32:20.110 --> 01:32:25.290 You guys are telling me that all these cases and COVID is going to do this 01:32:25.290 --> 01:32:25.910 and do that. 01:32:26.290 --> 01:32:29.010 Meanwhile, I'm out here in Florida and nothing's fucking happening. 01:32:31.590 --> 01:32:33.990 Again, same shit. 01:32:34.270 --> 01:32:35.170 Different fucking era. 01:32:35.670 --> 01:32:39.350 The fucking psychological operations these motherfuckers play on us. 01:32:40.930 --> 01:32:45.090 It is just it's the same shit over and over. 01:32:45.790 --> 01:32:46.350 It's the same thing. 01:32:46.750 --> 01:32:46.870 Yep. 01:32:48.050 --> 01:32:53.410 And that is one thing that I do want to bring up is that this was also coinciding when. 01:32:53.410 --> 01:33:04.450 So it was the 70s when the information came out about MKUltra, when the idea of the mentoring 01:33:04.450 --> 01:33:10.150 candidate, when the New York Times article came out that was saying the CIA used, 01:33:10.270 --> 01:33:13.750 I don't know, more drugs than they led us to believe or something to that effect. 01:33:13.870 --> 01:33:19.810 It was basically very much underplaying the mind control and MKUltra programs that the 01:33:19.810 --> 01:33:20.770 CIA was involved in. 01:33:21.710 --> 01:33:26.370 And this was part of what was happening in Vietnam as well. 01:33:26.830 --> 01:33:29.870 And so that was something that I want to make sure that we talk about. 01:33:30.030 --> 01:33:35.250 And Weezy said Operation Phoenix, which is really an important piece of this whole thing. 01:33:35.310 --> 01:33:39.350 And I apologize if you tuned in only for Operation Phoenix, but I wanted to lay some groundwork. 01:33:40.990 --> 01:33:41.930 But essentially. 01:33:43.030 --> 01:33:43.850 Hold on, Ashley. 01:33:46.310 --> 01:33:48.770 Ashley and I, this is going to be part one. 01:33:49.350 --> 01:33:53.030 We're going to be doing a part two where we focus balls deep into 01:33:54.410 --> 01:33:58.090 the Phoenix program or Operation Phoenix as it's more commonly. 01:33:58.650 --> 01:34:00.390 The official name is the Phoenix program. 01:34:00.910 --> 01:34:01.690 That's the official name. 01:34:03.270 --> 01:34:06.590 We're going to go into it, but we'll give you a little flavor right now, you know, 01:34:08.650 --> 01:34:11.670 we'll put the tip in, if you will, rhetorically speaking. 01:34:12.490 --> 01:34:14.810 But I definitely want to do a part two because 01:34:15.590 --> 01:34:17.830 um, yeah, it's important. 01:34:18.610 --> 01:34:23.270 The Phoenix program is something that blew my mind away. 01:34:24.150 --> 01:34:30.790 So give us a little, little flavor into what the Phoenix program was, how it was initiated, 01:34:31.330 --> 01:34:36.470 what kind of shit was done, and how it relates to the modern era. 01:34:36.730 --> 01:34:37.530 If you, if you don't mind. 01:34:38.170 --> 01:34:39.110 Yes, for sure. 01:34:39.170 --> 01:34:43.610 So I want to read, I have a couple of notes here and then a little bit of a hot mess. 01:34:45.410 --> 01:34:47.710 Let me see if I can find that. 01:34:48.750 --> 01:34:50.390 Okay, I may have to find it later. 01:34:51.550 --> 01:35:00.430 But what I wanted to point out in the book, Operation Mind Control, he talks about essentially 01:35:00.430 --> 01:35:06.370 that, so this is one of the premier books that starts talking about the subject of mind control. 01:35:08.570 --> 01:35:12.110 And he talks about the black, oh here we go, I found it. 01:35:12.110 --> 01:35:14.250 So he, he says, 01:35:16.550 --> 01:35:22.850 Vietnam vets who had been conditioned in the black science of the war of torture, 01:35:23.170 --> 01:35:27.070 terror, and technology were debriefed with special attention. 01:35:27.470 --> 01:35:31.690 Their memories were so completely erased before they were returned to civilian life with 01:35:31.690 --> 01:35:36.790 only the minimum fragmented knowledge of who they were or what they had done. 01:35:37.130 --> 01:35:40.370 So this is really important, I think, because on the nights earlier, 01:35:40.370 --> 01:35:43.670 we're talking about just starting to get into the subject of mind control. 01:35:43.830 --> 01:35:46.670 And we know that MK Ultra is only one subset of that. 01:35:46.870 --> 01:35:50.650 And it took place in, in a million different forms. 01:35:51.190 --> 01:35:56.730 But I think it's very important to point out that these types of techniques and the 01:35:56.730 --> 01:36:02.210 psychological warfare and this type of manipulation was actively utilized in Vietnam. 01:36:02.590 --> 01:36:04.710 And we also have some connections. 01:36:04.790 --> 01:36:09.650 And I was telling Weezy that Dave McGowan talks about and mentions Operation 01:36:09.650 --> 01:36:12.730 Phoenix quite a bit in Program to Kill. 01:36:13.490 --> 01:36:16.810 And we know that Program to Kill, the other part of that title is 01:36:16.810 --> 01:36:19.130 The Politics of Serial Murder. 01:36:19.610 --> 01:36:26.410 Okay. A lot of people that are evaluating the serial killer narrative or even perhaps 01:36:26.410 --> 01:36:31.530 the school shooter narrative, they often say this is Operation Gladio. 01:36:31.670 --> 01:36:33.190 This is a strategy of tension. 01:36:33.750 --> 01:36:38.650 My argument would actually be that this is Operation Phoenix. 01:36:39.650 --> 01:36:44.310 What I believe to be a continuation but a ramping up of Gladio. 01:36:45.110 --> 01:36:53.450 So the CIA director, William Colby, oversaw and was involved in Operation Gladio over in Europe. 01:36:53.870 --> 01:37:00.750 And then he also was part of and still overseeing the CIA whenever he, 01:37:01.150 --> 01:37:03.650 whenever Operation Phoenix was destroyed. 01:37:04.030 --> 01:37:08.750 And essentially what it has said about Operation Phoenix is that this was a 01:37:09.470 --> 01:37:12.390 war of, wait, I have a note somewhere. 01:37:12.530 --> 01:37:13.650 I wanted to get this right. 01:37:16.050 --> 01:37:17.770 Bear with me just one second. 01:37:20.370 --> 01:37:21.850 I don't know where my note is. 01:37:22.430 --> 01:37:24.970 But basically this was a terror war. 01:37:25.310 --> 01:37:32.350 Okay. What this was was a war on people that were supporting the Viet Cong, 01:37:32.930 --> 01:37:38.510 the villagers that were supporting Viet Cong, whether that was through supplies or information 01:37:38.510 --> 01:37:41.630 this was to terrorize them. 01:37:41.930 --> 01:37:44.530 This was all bets are off. 01:37:44.690 --> 01:37:53.650 This is all any egregious thing that you can think of to do to another human being. 01:37:53.970 --> 01:37:55.970 You are allowed to do that. 01:37:56.810 --> 01:37:57.530 Anything. 01:37:58.290 --> 01:38:02.550 And so one thing that has been talked about is what was potential 01:38:02.550 --> 01:38:09.630 mind control used on some of the U.S. soldiers in order to get them to be able to commit these 01:38:09.630 --> 01:38:10.290 atrocities. 01:38:10.810 --> 01:38:12.230 And I think that that's possible. 01:38:12.890 --> 01:38:15.650 And we do have an example from Program to Kill. 01:38:17.350 --> 01:38:19.450 Oh, here's my note, if I may, Weezy. 01:38:21.850 --> 01:38:24.630 As Doug Valentine revealed in the Phoenix program, 01:38:25.430 --> 01:38:28.030 which was the torture and terror program by the CIA, 01:38:28.520 --> 01:38:35.650 the Phoenix teams consisted of U.S. Navy SEALs working with CTs described by one participant 01:38:35.650 --> 01:38:40.850 as a combination of ARVN deserters, which is the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. 01:38:41.430 --> 01:38:46.950 So the Republic of Vietnam deserters, VC turncoats, which is the Viet Cong and bad 01:38:46.950 --> 01:38:50.350 motherfucker criminals, the South Vietnamese couldn't deal with in prison. 01:38:50.350 --> 01:38:52.150 So they turned them over to us. 01:38:52.590 --> 01:38:56.090 So one of the things that is discussed by Douglas Valentine 01:38:56.810 --> 01:38:58.190 is the fact that 01:39:00.290 --> 01:39:06.730 that these people, some of them had to absolutely be sadists, that they enjoyed this, 01:39:06.890 --> 01:39:08.430 that the torture that they did. 01:39:08.690 --> 01:39:11.210 So I think that there's probably a few different people, 01:39:12.090 --> 01:39:15.290 a few different types of people in the camp who are carrying out these operations. 01:39:15.490 --> 01:39:19.910 And as Weezy said, there was at least 20,000 Vietnamese people that were killed 01:39:19.910 --> 01:39:21.730 by Operation Phoenix alone. 01:39:22.590 --> 01:39:26.350 And this is a really important point. 01:39:26.830 --> 01:39:32.770 So where this is mentioned in Program to Kill was actually in regards to Otis Tull, 01:39:32.970 --> 01:39:37.650 who was a friend, a companion of Henry Lee Lucas, one of the serial killers. 01:39:37.790 --> 01:39:40.070 So this was like, there's a chapter on both of them. 01:39:40.530 --> 01:39:43.110 And then it continues to say, 01:39:43.170 --> 01:39:46.150 the Spooks were only too happy to employ the services of the men 01:39:46.150 --> 01:39:49.950 who taught their SEAL comrades the secrets of the Cy War campaign. 01:39:50.630 --> 01:39:54.570 So depraved were the agency recruits that some of them would actually 01:39:54.570 --> 01:39:56.630 devour the enemy's vital organs. 01:39:57.010 --> 01:39:59.570 And McGowan goes on to say, as he does, 01:39:59.890 --> 01:40:04.150 all in a day's work for America's premier intelligence agency. 01:40:05.190 --> 01:40:11.950 So I think that that is a really interesting tie-in with Program to Kill, 01:40:12.190 --> 01:40:19.170 because that is part of the whole thing with what Dave McGowan's thesis on these people are, 01:40:19.170 --> 01:40:21.630 is that either they are patsies, 01:40:21.890 --> 01:40:26.910 the people that were described to us as serial killers, 01:40:27.090 --> 01:40:32.610 they were either patsies, mind controlled to do it, 01:40:32.730 --> 01:40:36.010 or they were patsies and didn't do it at all. 01:40:38.470 --> 01:40:41.190 So I think that that's a really interesting tie-in, 01:40:41.330 --> 01:40:45.990 and it is still prevalent and important to this day, 01:40:45.990 --> 01:40:49.910 because I think that we know that these techniques were used here, 01:40:50.270 --> 01:40:56.850 but so that it was specifically to make people afraid to support the Viet Cong. 01:40:57.510 --> 01:40:58.650 It was, we will do anything. 01:40:59.090 --> 01:41:01.510 The other thing that I wanted to point out that was really important 01:41:01.510 --> 01:41:06.310 is that search and destroy was an important theme in Vietnam, right? 01:41:06.750 --> 01:41:09.830 So that was before Operation Phoenix, okay? 01:41:09.930 --> 01:41:12.530 So I want to establish that this wasn't just all of a sudden 01:41:12.530 --> 01:41:15.070 we have Operation Phoenix and now things get horrible. 01:41:15.070 --> 01:41:16.910 It already was horrible. 01:41:17.290 --> 01:41:19.810 There already was times when they had to, you know, 01:41:19.870 --> 01:41:21.330 that they killed everybody in the village, 01:41:21.330 --> 01:41:24.170 or sometimes they would empty out the village 01:41:24.170 --> 01:41:25.950 and then they would just burn everything down, 01:41:25.990 --> 01:41:29.570 or there were times when they, quote, kill anything that moves. 01:41:29.870 --> 01:41:33.490 That includes their animals, their chickens, their water buffalo. 01:41:33.750 --> 01:41:37.310 That is everybody and everything in the entire village. 01:41:37.770 --> 01:41:40.350 So this is something that Valentine talks about, 01:41:40.970 --> 01:41:45.310 that the military was already using this type of programming 01:41:45.310 --> 01:41:49.670 or this type of procedure or operations to an extent. 01:41:50.190 --> 01:41:53.890 And then the way that he came about being able to discuss 01:41:54.850 --> 01:41:58.610 Operation Phoenix with the people that he was able to discuss it with 01:41:58.610 --> 01:42:00.490 is because he got the back and forth. 01:42:00.630 --> 01:42:02.370 So he was able to speak with William Colby 01:42:02.370 --> 01:42:04.470 and the people that William Colby recommended, 01:42:04.610 --> 01:42:09.290 and they provided the official narrative about what Operation Phoenix was. 01:42:09.290 --> 01:42:13.410 And of course, their perspective was not that this was atrocities 01:42:13.410 --> 01:42:15.750 and war crimes and we should be burning in hell right now. 01:42:15.830 --> 01:42:17.450 This was like the government narrative. 01:42:17.530 --> 01:42:18.350 This is why we did it. 01:42:18.370 --> 01:42:21.970 We wanted to break connection and conversation and help for the Viet Cong. 01:42:22.470 --> 01:42:24.370 Then he spoke to this guy, Tully, 01:42:24.530 --> 01:42:28.650 who had previously been kind of involved in these operations, 01:42:28.770 --> 01:42:33.090 but his operations were overtaken by CIA. 01:42:33.710 --> 01:42:34.910 So he was upset. 01:42:35.110 --> 01:42:38.210 So he was willing to tell Douglas Valentine 01:42:38.210 --> 01:42:40.290 a little bit more of the truth of this. 01:42:40.590 --> 01:42:45.330 So this search and destroy these terror campaigns were being used, 01:42:45.590 --> 01:42:50.670 but it transformed more towards CIA control for Operation Phoenix 01:42:50.670 --> 01:42:56.050 or the Phoenix program and was co-opted by the CIA. 01:42:56.690 --> 01:42:59.490 And then we see that they used specialized people 01:42:59.490 --> 01:43:01.550 and people that had specialized training 01:43:01.550 --> 01:43:03.730 in order to commit these atrocities. 01:43:03.850 --> 01:43:07.630 And then they picked up some of these ragtag people 01:43:07.630 --> 01:43:08.850 to add to that as well. 01:43:09.310 --> 01:43:11.330 So the search and destroy had been happening. 01:43:11.890 --> 01:43:13.550 Now, something that I want to talk about 01:43:13.550 --> 01:43:19.750 is I've seen some conflicting information about the MyLine massacre. 01:43:20.310 --> 01:43:22.530 So this took place in March of 1968. 01:43:23.310 --> 01:43:25.930 This was presented to us as an isolated incident. 01:43:26.110 --> 01:43:28.870 It's one of the most famous that if you're going to know 01:43:28.870 --> 01:43:31.310 about the search and destroy and some of these atrocities, 01:43:31.310 --> 01:43:33.650 this is one that a lot of people are going to know about. 01:43:34.150 --> 01:43:37.270 And it was presented to us as an isolated incident 01:43:37.270 --> 01:43:41.090 that we had a whistleblower and they were telling the truth. 01:43:41.530 --> 01:43:46.010 What actually happened was that this company 01:43:46.010 --> 01:43:49.590 that carried out the MyLine massacre was told 01:43:50.150 --> 01:43:52.890 to kill anything that moves. 01:43:54.370 --> 01:43:56.970 And that does not matter if this is a baby, 01:43:57.410 --> 01:43:59.330 if this is a child, if this is a woman, 01:43:59.450 --> 01:44:01.510 if this is an old man, if this is an old woman. 01:44:01.850 --> 01:44:05.870 That is anything and everything and everyone in this village 01:44:05.870 --> 01:44:07.250 that never did anything to them. 01:44:07.390 --> 01:44:09.550 This is only because we think, 01:44:09.730 --> 01:44:13.690 we say that they were helping or supporting the Viet Cong. 01:44:14.470 --> 01:44:15.410 And that's it. 01:44:15.970 --> 01:44:16.950 And they killed them all. 01:44:18.650 --> 01:44:22.910 And so this ended up getting out to the public, 01:44:23.590 --> 01:44:25.490 but really they had a fall guy 01:44:25.490 --> 01:44:29.050 and he ended up only getting house arrest 01:44:29.050 --> 01:44:30.350 and then even got out of that. 01:44:30.470 --> 01:44:33.250 So no one, this is another pattern that is repeated 01:44:33.250 --> 01:44:36.370 over and over and over Syop war crime repeat 01:44:36.970 --> 01:44:39.590 is that no one is ever held accountable 01:44:39.590 --> 01:44:41.510 who actually made the decision, 01:44:41.570 --> 01:44:43.490 who actually gave the go-ahead to do that. 01:44:43.630 --> 01:44:45.790 And if these people, even if they didn't believe it 01:44:45.790 --> 01:44:48.410 and they wanted to go against their commanding officer, 01:44:48.550 --> 01:44:50.370 what was going to happen to them if they didn't listen? 01:44:52.090 --> 01:44:56.590 Yeah, and a somewhat famous name 01:44:56.590 --> 01:45:00.950 when you think of the MyLine massacre is Seymour Hirsch. 01:45:01.770 --> 01:45:05.070 Seymour Hirsch in recent times was the one 01:45:05.070 --> 01:45:08.650 that the Nord Stream pipeline was bullshit. 01:45:10.790 --> 01:45:13.910 There are people that have questions about Seymour Hirsch. 01:45:14.050 --> 01:45:16.830 Is he one of these controlled opposition puppets? 01:45:19.450 --> 01:45:21.490 I don't know how I feel about him anymore. 01:45:23.490 --> 01:45:26.930 I do question anyone that's up there in those ranks. 01:45:28.150 --> 01:45:31.970 I don't care if you're a Clint Russell or a Seymour Hirsch, 01:45:32.290 --> 01:45:34.950 like, why are you getting all this attention? 01:45:35.310 --> 01:45:37.550 Like, well, you know, maybe they're playing the role 01:45:37.550 --> 01:45:39.610 and they don't even realize they're being used 01:45:40.130 --> 01:45:41.990 for a certain extent or narrative. 01:45:42.590 --> 01:45:45.810 Yeah, I got questions, but I mean, it is, 01:45:45.950 --> 01:45:49.290 I thought it was interesting that Seymour Hirsch is 01:45:49.290 --> 01:45:50.410 fucking old school. 01:45:51.090 --> 01:45:53.190 His work goes back to Vietnam. 01:45:53.190 --> 01:45:53.750 Vietnam. 01:45:54.630 --> 01:45:58.910 And here he is in the Nord Stream pipeline calling bullshit on that. 01:45:59.130 --> 01:46:02.590 So yeah, just a little interesting tidbit that I thought I'd chime in. 01:46:02.910 --> 01:46:03.670 Yeah, I agree. 01:46:03.790 --> 01:46:04.210 I love it. 01:46:04.310 --> 01:46:07.770 And it's almost like in every conversation that I have, 01:46:07.830 --> 01:46:10.630 I need to figure out how Seven Seas makes his map 01:46:10.630 --> 01:46:12.570 and I need to start making my own map, 01:46:12.570 --> 01:46:16.590 because these people, it goes on and on and on. 01:46:16.790 --> 01:46:18.070 I mean, it is tied in. 01:46:18.410 --> 01:46:19.510 Yes, they're all tied in. 01:46:20.110 --> 01:46:22.070 So one thing that I wanted to. 01:46:22.070 --> 01:46:23.910 Are you going to do your damn podcast, Ashley? 01:46:25.430 --> 01:46:26.730 Well, we'll talk about it. 01:46:26.830 --> 01:46:27.670 We'll talk about it. 01:46:27.830 --> 01:46:30.770 You got to do you know, I like your style. 01:46:31.030 --> 01:46:31.790 So you'll be all right. 01:46:31.830 --> 01:46:32.470 Thank you so much. 01:46:32.570 --> 01:46:33.390 I love talking to you. 01:46:33.490 --> 01:46:34.570 And I think we talked about this. 01:46:34.690 --> 01:46:38.410 We have a lot of overlapping interests and a lot of our kind of takes 01:46:38.410 --> 01:46:42.930 about the authority structure really aligned with what we're seeing. 01:46:43.070 --> 01:46:45.210 And I do think that we try to look at things 01:46:45.210 --> 01:46:46.490 from outside the box. 01:46:46.570 --> 01:46:47.710 So we're presented with information 01:46:47.710 --> 01:46:50.350 and then we try to use whatever else we know 01:46:51.030 --> 01:46:56.470 and use that as the lens with which we view the information that we're told, right? 01:46:56.590 --> 01:46:59.390 So we know sometimes it is, I saw this somewhere, 01:46:59.750 --> 01:47:01.410 I don't know, maybe in the chat at some point, 01:47:03.190 --> 01:47:08.450 about limited hangouts or these people that maybe shills or whatever they said, 01:47:08.790 --> 01:47:10.350 eat the fruit, spit out the seeds. 01:47:10.450 --> 01:47:11.990 And I think that that is important, 01:47:11.990 --> 01:47:14.970 especially when we're trying to get into a historical perspective 01:47:14.970 --> 01:47:19.550 and learn how these things are really connected. 01:47:19.550 --> 01:47:22.530 We need to be understanding the source. 01:47:23.650 --> 01:47:27.070 And thank you all so much for these very lovely compliments 01:47:27.070 --> 01:47:27.890 and tuning in. 01:47:27.990 --> 01:47:28.730 I really appreciate it. 01:47:30.070 --> 01:47:31.630 Keep on coming in the comments 01:47:31.630 --> 01:47:33.170 because Ashley likes to see that shit. 01:47:33.990 --> 01:47:35.910 No, I throw it back to Weezy. 01:47:36.030 --> 01:47:38.010 Weezy was like, I do this for the accolades. 01:47:38.670 --> 01:47:39.450 Fuck yeah. 01:47:41.110 --> 01:47:43.750 No, but Ashley truly like, 01:47:45.670 --> 01:47:47.830 so we talked this off the air. 01:47:47.830 --> 01:47:53.430 I don't want to get into any specifics, but when I asked you to come on, 01:47:54.790 --> 01:47:58.390 I asked you what subject you wanted to talk to talk to me about. 01:47:58.630 --> 01:48:01.170 You brought up Vietnam that immediately intrigued me. 01:48:01.230 --> 01:48:03.650 I was like, God damn, I've never done a fucking Vietnam show. 01:48:04.790 --> 01:48:09.310 And then I asked you for your links and you sent me some YouTube links. 01:48:09.930 --> 01:48:11.510 Like, I don't want this shit. 01:48:11.750 --> 01:48:13.330 I want your damn links. 01:48:13.530 --> 01:48:13.770 Right. 01:48:13.890 --> 01:48:15.150 Where can people find you? 01:48:16.610 --> 01:48:18.170 And I was surprised. 01:48:18.430 --> 01:48:19.690 I'm going to tell you this straight up. 01:48:19.810 --> 01:48:21.730 I was surprised you didn't have your own podcast. 01:48:22.150 --> 01:48:23.350 You know a lot of shit. 01:48:24.730 --> 01:48:26.630 You have a very soothing voice. 01:48:27.470 --> 01:48:31.410 And you formulate your opinions in a very digestible way. 01:48:31.790 --> 01:48:33.010 And it is out of the box. 01:48:33.190 --> 01:48:34.890 It is unorthodox. 01:48:35.370 --> 01:48:40.070 And maybe I like that because I feel I'm the same way. 01:48:40.270 --> 01:48:41.550 So I enjoy that. 01:48:43.010 --> 01:48:46.970 So I told you, you know, if you don't have a fucking podcast, 01:48:47.170 --> 01:48:49.690 I'm going to help you start your own damn podcast. 01:48:49.950 --> 01:48:50.810 So stay tuned. 01:48:51.130 --> 01:48:52.030 We're going to do part two. 01:48:52.210 --> 01:48:54.130 And hopefully by part two, she has her podcast. 01:48:54.510 --> 01:48:58.010 And then I want you motherfuckers to follow it because she knows her shit, man. 01:48:58.070 --> 01:49:00.030 And we need to support each other. 01:49:01.230 --> 01:49:06.170 I was telling you, Ashley, that when I started my shit, 01:49:06.830 --> 01:49:09.150 I didn't think anyone was going to listen. 01:49:09.150 --> 01:49:14.530 And now I've got a few thousand people that listen. 01:49:15.110 --> 01:49:16.310 I hate calling people followers. 01:49:17.030 --> 01:49:17.610 They're my friends. 01:49:18.270 --> 01:49:19.250 Most of them are my friends. 01:49:19.690 --> 01:49:21.550 The motherfuckers that talk shit, you guys are followers. 01:49:22.710 --> 01:49:24.070 I was actually going to ask you. 01:49:24.150 --> 01:49:26.990 I wanted to ask you how you how you handle that, you know, 01:49:27.070 --> 01:49:27.770 does it bother you? 01:49:28.010 --> 01:49:29.410 But we don't know at the beginning. 01:49:29.930 --> 01:49:31.410 Yeah, it doesn't bother me. 01:49:31.750 --> 01:49:35.990 Like honestly, if you're going to, that's the thing, 01:49:37.050 --> 01:49:41.610 Ashley, if you want a podcast, you got to handle it the way I handle it. 01:49:42.690 --> 01:49:44.830 And it may sound egotistical. 01:49:45.030 --> 01:49:47.090 It may sound crazy, but it's the best way to handle it. 01:49:47.570 --> 01:49:52.410 If you take, you got a motherfucker that has no profile picture. 01:49:52.750 --> 01:49:55.410 His name is I asked for a living. 01:49:56.270 --> 01:49:59.090 And he's out there in the live chat talking to shit, 01:49:59.570 --> 01:50:03.430 talking about your mom, talking about this, like mad shit. 01:50:04.650 --> 01:50:11.930 And if you read that and you take it to heart, maybe this isn't for you. 01:50:12.070 --> 01:50:13.290 I'm being straight up with you. 01:50:13.990 --> 01:50:17.590 I read some stupid motherfuckers saying that and it makes me like, 01:50:17.610 --> 01:50:19.030 I'll talk shit right back. 01:50:19.550 --> 01:50:21.190 I'm like, bitch, that's not what your mom said. 01:50:22.150 --> 01:50:23.030 You know what I mean? 01:50:23.190 --> 01:50:23.970 I talked shit right. 01:50:24.370 --> 01:50:27.690 It legitimately doesn't do anything to me. 01:50:27.770 --> 01:50:29.010 I have fun with it. 01:50:29.650 --> 01:50:30.290 I don't care. 01:50:30.530 --> 01:50:33.410 It doesn't like so if anyone says that, 01:50:33.410 --> 01:50:36.110 anything about me, whatever, I'll fucking roll with it. 01:50:36.430 --> 01:50:36.870 Motherfucker. 01:50:37.250 --> 01:50:39.630 And then it cracks me up when I talk shit back. 01:50:39.850 --> 01:50:41.870 Some of these guys start trying to like, oh, man, 01:50:42.170 --> 01:50:44.110 I didn't know you were going to be like that wheezy. 01:50:44.290 --> 01:50:44.730 What the fuck? 01:50:44.970 --> 01:50:47.530 My bitch, you should have kept your fucking mouth shut then, bitch. 01:50:48.110 --> 01:50:51.130 You hit me and I'm going to hit you back twice as hard. 01:50:51.710 --> 01:50:52.350 That's my policy. 01:50:52.530 --> 01:50:53.650 Talk all the shit you want. 01:50:54.010 --> 01:50:56.230 But don't be surprised when I hit you with the kitchen sink. 01:50:56.850 --> 01:50:58.810 And that's the way I view it. 01:50:59.130 --> 01:51:02.450 Now, I don't expect you to be this way. 01:51:04.110 --> 01:51:07.950 But you just got to learn people on the Internet. 01:51:08.190 --> 01:51:10.090 They get a little brave when they're anonymous 01:51:10.090 --> 01:51:11.810 and their name is not showing. 01:51:12.210 --> 01:51:13.330 They talk all kinds of shit. 01:51:13.490 --> 01:51:16.330 They're going to say all these things that in real life, 01:51:16.350 --> 01:51:18.770 if they were in front of you, they would never say. 01:51:19.470 --> 01:51:19.870 Right. 01:51:20.070 --> 01:51:20.630 You know what I'm saying? 01:51:21.370 --> 01:51:27.510 So they anonymity kind of gives people red bull. 01:51:27.730 --> 01:51:29.230 It gives them wings to talk shit. 01:51:29.270 --> 01:51:31.350 Yeah, it makes them a little too fresh. 01:51:32.290 --> 01:51:33.290 A little too familiar. 01:51:33.710 --> 01:51:34.930 That's the only thing I tell you. 01:51:35.030 --> 01:51:36.990 Don't take what anyone says. 01:51:38.650 --> 01:51:41.390 Don't fucking pay it. 01:51:41.410 --> 01:51:41.750 No mind. 01:51:42.070 --> 01:51:43.530 I don't pay it any mind. 01:51:43.650 --> 01:51:44.550 I don't give a fuck. 01:51:45.430 --> 01:51:49.170 I think that's I think that's a good, a good approach. 01:51:49.730 --> 01:51:51.910 And I will say that here's another thing. 01:51:51.970 --> 01:51:54.510 Actually, other people take the approach 01:51:54.510 --> 01:51:56.330 of just not reading the comments at all. 01:51:57.150 --> 01:51:59.210 Because and I think they take that approach 01:51:59.210 --> 01:52:01.690 because they know they probably don't have 01:52:01.690 --> 01:52:04.590 that thick of skin and they know if they read something 01:52:04.590 --> 01:52:08.510 that may come across as hurtful, that might hurt them. 01:52:08.690 --> 01:52:12.670 So for them, for them, the best course of action 01:52:12.670 --> 01:52:13.850 is just not reading them. 01:52:14.510 --> 01:52:15.110 You know what I'm saying? 01:52:15.730 --> 01:52:19.610 I can respect that because but at the same time, 01:52:19.710 --> 01:52:20.570 I'm not that way. 01:52:20.950 --> 01:52:21.690 I'm the motherfucker. 01:52:21.870 --> 01:52:23.490 I'm going to talk shit right back to you. 01:52:23.710 --> 01:52:25.550 If you talk shit to me, I'm going to talk shit 01:52:25.550 --> 01:52:26.310 right back to you. 01:52:26.310 --> 01:52:27.610 So everyone's made different. 01:52:28.010 --> 01:52:29.090 So you just got to choose 01:52:30.510 --> 01:52:31.970 what works best for you. 01:52:32.010 --> 01:52:32.610 You know what I'm saying? 01:52:33.470 --> 01:52:33.950 Yeah. 01:52:34.110 --> 01:52:38.110 And I think to be a good podcaster and like what you do 01:52:38.110 --> 01:52:41.210 to grow your show, you have to be very consistent 01:52:41.730 --> 01:52:44.730 and dedicated to always showing up. 01:52:45.050 --> 01:52:47.590 And then there's a lot of other like back end work 01:52:47.590 --> 01:52:51.290 that that people don't maybe know about 01:52:51.290 --> 01:52:52.230 or think about, right? 01:52:52.310 --> 01:52:54.530 As far as like uploading, making your graphics, 01:52:54.730 --> 01:52:56.650 uploading your episodes, putting them out there 01:52:56.650 --> 01:52:57.450 to the. 01:52:59.410 --> 01:53:00.270 Thank you, Terry. 01:53:00.570 --> 01:53:00.750 Thank you. 01:53:00.830 --> 01:53:01.050 No, sure. 01:53:01.130 --> 01:53:01.390 Dalmas. 01:53:01.510 --> 01:53:01.910 Thank you guys. 01:53:02.970 --> 01:53:04.370 You got a little fan. 01:53:04.670 --> 01:53:05.950 We got to get you the podcast. 01:53:06.190 --> 01:53:06.450 Ashley. 01:53:06.550 --> 01:53:06.890 Hell yeah. 01:53:07.150 --> 01:53:07.410 Yeah. 01:53:07.630 --> 01:53:08.670 See, I was surprised. 01:53:09.230 --> 01:53:11.450 Like I thought you had your own show already. 01:53:11.790 --> 01:53:14.350 And so when you didn't send me later like damn, 01:53:15.770 --> 01:53:19.330 we're going to be popping some rhetorical 01:53:19.330 --> 01:53:20.370 cherries, if you will. 01:53:21.090 --> 01:53:22.390 And we lost them. 01:53:22.650 --> 01:53:23.610 Don't take that that way. 01:53:23.850 --> 01:53:26.630 But I think it's awesome because I think 01:53:26.630 --> 01:53:27.650 you do have. 01:53:28.770 --> 01:53:31.110 I'm going to tell you this because I know 01:53:31.110 --> 01:53:33.010 when other people have told me this, 01:53:33.070 --> 01:53:34.510 when I was starting my show, 01:53:35.150 --> 01:53:37.010 I had someone like Brian fucking Harvey 01:53:37.010 --> 01:53:39.150 saying you got you got what it fucking 01:53:39.150 --> 01:53:40.270 takes to do a podcast. 01:53:40.690 --> 01:53:42.990 I had people that I respected tell me 01:53:44.510 --> 01:53:46.270 that I had what it takes and it meant 01:53:46.270 --> 01:53:48.730 that gave me boost that gave me something. 01:53:49.210 --> 01:53:50.270 So I ain't no one. 01:53:50.390 --> 01:53:51.650 I'm just a fucking garbage man. 01:53:51.770 --> 01:53:52.590 I say that every week. 01:53:52.830 --> 01:53:53.790 But I'm going to tell you, Ashley, 01:53:53.950 --> 01:53:55.470 I think you got what it takes to have 01:53:55.470 --> 01:53:57.390 your own show and I would I would 01:53:57.390 --> 01:53:59.370 highly encourage you to do it for sure. 01:54:00.350 --> 01:54:01.690 Well, I appreciate it. 01:54:01.790 --> 01:54:04.250 And as you know, I appreciate that very much. 01:54:04.510 --> 01:54:07.550 And in a group dynamic, it can be really, 01:54:07.570 --> 01:54:08.030 really good. 01:54:08.430 --> 01:54:12.030 However, sometimes you do, you know, 01:54:12.050 --> 01:54:13.590 you're kind of agreeing on a subject, 01:54:13.610 --> 01:54:15.150 but sometimes there's other things 01:54:15.150 --> 01:54:17.870 that you do want to kind of go do a 01:54:17.870 --> 01:54:19.690 deep dive in or discuss or cover. 01:54:20.010 --> 01:54:22.950 That is you can't always get there or 01:54:22.950 --> 01:54:24.690 not until later in kind of a group 01:54:24.690 --> 01:54:25.010 setting. 01:54:25.450 --> 01:54:28.130 So there's definitely a benefit to that. 01:54:28.190 --> 01:54:29.150 And I have thought about it, 01:54:29.190 --> 01:54:31.150 but then there's some other like the 01:54:31.150 --> 01:54:34.010 back end work as far as graphics and 01:54:34.010 --> 01:54:35.790 uploading and all that stuff. 01:54:35.790 --> 01:54:37.230 And I'm like, I don't know if I could 01:54:37.230 --> 01:54:37.970 do that a lot. 01:54:38.010 --> 01:54:38.170 Yeah. 01:54:38.510 --> 01:54:38.890 Yeah. 01:54:39.210 --> 01:54:39.330 Yeah. 01:54:39.610 --> 01:54:40.210 That's the thing. 01:54:40.390 --> 01:54:41.590 It's a lot of work for sure. 01:54:41.950 --> 01:54:42.810 I'm more than help. 01:54:43.150 --> 01:54:44.730 I'm more than happy to help you out 01:54:44.730 --> 01:54:46.210 with anything that I can. 01:54:46.290 --> 01:54:47.510 But it is a lot of work. 01:54:48.050 --> 01:54:49.870 And you got to keep at it. 01:54:51.910 --> 01:54:53.530 My little lovely missy. 01:54:53.530 --> 01:54:54.630 She's in the live chat. 01:54:55.550 --> 01:54:55.990 Yes. 01:54:56.290 --> 01:54:57.390 I'm going through a lot of shit. 01:54:58.290 --> 01:55:00.850 And yeah, that's going to that's going 01:55:00.850 --> 01:55:02.150 to change very soon. 01:55:03.270 --> 01:55:07.310 And yeah, it definitely helps out quite a bit. 01:55:09.590 --> 01:55:11.330 Getting because it is a lot. 01:55:11.650 --> 01:55:13.350 It is a lot to deal with on your own. 01:55:13.750 --> 01:55:14.730 You got to do the thumbnails. 01:55:15.490 --> 01:55:16.930 You got to do the show descriptions. 01:55:17.250 --> 01:55:18.870 You got to do so much fucking shit. 01:55:19.210 --> 01:55:20.610 Yeah, there's a lot if you got. 01:55:20.690 --> 01:55:21.910 Yeah, if you got a job, 01:55:21.910 --> 01:55:24.450 if you got a full-time job on top of that, 01:55:26.110 --> 01:55:27.890 it's it's almost hard to juggle. 01:55:28.530 --> 01:55:29.390 You know what I'm saying? 01:55:32.970 --> 01:55:34.670 And he can get overwhelming. 01:55:34.950 --> 01:55:35.830 So if you get a little help, 01:55:35.830 --> 01:55:38.030 it definitely makes things a lot easier for sure. 01:55:38.090 --> 01:55:38.470 For sure. 01:55:38.670 --> 01:55:40.850 And I do think about that because you're so consistent 01:55:40.850 --> 01:55:43.430 with putting out your content so consistent 01:55:43.430 --> 01:55:44.690 while working a full-time job. 01:55:45.050 --> 01:55:46.310 And it's definitely not easy. 01:55:46.490 --> 01:55:50.470 And yes, I did want to say to to Ronnie Omlitz 01:55:50.470 --> 01:55:53.530 and my other people who showed up here from Knights. 01:55:53.690 --> 01:55:54.850 I really appreciate you all. 01:55:54.970 --> 01:55:55.570 Thank you so much. 01:55:55.650 --> 01:55:57.730 And you shouted out Missy. 01:55:58.170 --> 01:56:01.510 And I wanted to say that every time when I was coming in, 01:56:01.710 --> 01:56:05.490 just in the chat, Missy always was greeting me. 01:56:05.910 --> 01:56:07.750 She was always so nice to me. 01:56:08.030 --> 01:56:08.510 Still is. 01:56:08.830 --> 01:56:13.090 But I have to say that I really appreciate that so much. 01:56:13.170 --> 01:56:14.130 And yes, she's always here. 01:56:14.210 --> 01:56:15.310 So it's always great to see her. 01:56:15.310 --> 01:56:16.190 Yeah. 01:56:18.910 --> 01:56:24.150 Been the best mod in the game for five, six years now, 01:56:24.670 --> 01:56:25.070 at this point. 01:56:25.470 --> 01:56:25.910 That's awesome. 01:56:26.250 --> 01:56:27.850 And always been like that. 01:56:28.770 --> 01:56:30.750 Welcomes everyone, makes everyone feel at home. 01:56:31.510 --> 01:56:34.270 This is why we have these live chats that are always popping. 01:56:35.190 --> 01:56:35.310 Yes. 01:56:35.870 --> 01:56:39.970 In the YouTube days, when we had hundreds upon hundreds of people 01:56:39.970 --> 01:56:43.310 in the live chat, boom, same shit, same energy. 01:56:45.150 --> 01:56:48.710 And one of these days, I'm going to do a show on her because yeah, 01:56:50.450 --> 01:56:52.470 she she she wasn't like that. 01:56:53.430 --> 01:56:57.310 But she loved my show more than anyone. 01:56:59.830 --> 01:57:03.770 And that was that was awesome. 01:57:04.350 --> 01:57:05.950 You know, because I did the show. 01:57:07.230 --> 01:57:09.050 Not knowing what the fuck was going to happen. 01:57:09.550 --> 01:57:12.070 Now you have someone that loves everything you do, 01:57:12.070 --> 01:57:15.490 everything you put out, every fucking show I put out, boom, 01:57:15.610 --> 01:57:16.850 she's there, there, there. 01:57:17.290 --> 01:57:21.750 It matters so much to have people that support you and like your work. 01:57:22.470 --> 01:57:22.950 Yeah. 01:57:23.890 --> 01:57:24.270 Look at you. 01:57:24.370 --> 01:57:27.030 Actually, you got you got Ronnie Omelette showing up. 01:57:27.170 --> 01:57:28.810 You got people that support you. 01:57:29.630 --> 01:57:30.850 No, Sherdam is Terry. 01:57:31.990 --> 01:57:34.330 Yeah, I appreciate y'all so much. 01:57:34.910 --> 01:57:36.390 That's badass right there. 01:57:36.810 --> 01:57:41.490 So you I guess what I'm trying to get at you have a little base to work on. 01:57:42.810 --> 01:57:48.990 And so you have I think you have something you have something going for you. 01:57:49.130 --> 01:57:52.090 It's just going to be it's really going to come down to you. 01:57:52.270 --> 01:57:55.770 How much energy and input you want to put into it? 01:57:56.030 --> 01:57:58.530 I put so much fucking work into this. 01:57:58.710 --> 01:58:02.290 See a lot of people it's finally growing after fucking six years. 01:58:02.570 --> 01:58:06.090 I grew immediately like boom, I fucking skyrocketed. 01:58:06.150 --> 01:58:07.010 I went on YouTube. 01:58:08.450 --> 01:58:15.810 I was on pace to 10,000 subscribers in my first year on YouTube, which is which is fucking bananas. 01:58:16.070 --> 01:58:16.250 Yeah. 01:58:16.350 --> 01:58:19.990 Anyone that's that has their little favorite YouTubers or whatever that are 01:58:20.750 --> 01:58:24.030 not big and corporate mainstream motherfuckers. 01:58:24.030 --> 01:58:27.550 You've probably been following someone that for years, many, many years, 01:58:27.630 --> 01:58:31.950 and they probably have 500 subs, maybe 2000 subs, 3000 subs. 01:58:32.510 --> 01:58:35.630 I was on pace to 10,000 fucking subs on my first incredible. 01:58:36.150 --> 01:58:39.390 Crazy live streams with 600 people. 01:58:39.390 --> 01:58:41.110 It was insane. 01:58:42.230 --> 01:58:46.010 And I I was dropping an F bomb every two seconds. 01:58:46.250 --> 01:58:48.470 And maybe that played a role in getting kicked out. 01:58:49.090 --> 01:58:49.830 I was so ghetto. 01:58:49.990 --> 01:58:51.810 I didn't I didn't know what the fuck was happening. 01:58:52.390 --> 01:58:52.650 I was just. 01:58:53.870 --> 01:58:56.990 And it means it's from those days you can attest to that. 01:58:57.310 --> 01:59:02.510 But then I skyrocketed and then I hit rock bottom. 01:59:03.170 --> 01:59:04.870 I got canceled off of YouTube. 01:59:06.750 --> 01:59:09.330 And it was almost like starting all over. 01:59:11.290 --> 01:59:13.570 And I didn't know if I'm going to do it again. 01:59:13.930 --> 01:59:14.590 Yeah, it's hard. 01:59:14.970 --> 01:59:15.350 All right. 01:59:15.610 --> 01:59:16.610 What the fuck, man? 01:59:16.770 --> 01:59:20.570 I built all this shit up and now I'm starting at ground zero. 01:59:23.450 --> 01:59:26.890 And it takes a special mindset to get through that. 01:59:27.430 --> 01:59:31.170 It also takes a special someone like missing. 01:59:31.170 --> 01:59:34.150 But I just said, you have what it takes. 01:59:35.790 --> 01:59:38.110 Yes, to support you keep pushing. 01:59:38.950 --> 01:59:42.370 And Carl and so sorry. 01:59:42.430 --> 01:59:44.290 We just wanted to shout out Carl and Hannah because they 01:59:44.290 --> 01:59:45.750 were in the chat in the nights today. 01:59:46.230 --> 01:59:46.930 And then they're over here. 01:59:47.190 --> 01:59:48.390 So very nice to see you. 01:59:48.410 --> 01:59:49.070 Thank you so much. 01:59:49.110 --> 01:59:50.870 Yeah, he's been following me for a long time. 01:59:51.130 --> 01:59:55.530 So for a while now and it's awesome. 01:59:56.970 --> 01:59:59.630 Like the thing Carl is going to call in, you know what? 01:59:59.630 --> 02:00:02.730 Carl, I well, I should have. 02:00:02.870 --> 02:00:04.050 I shouldn't have jumped ahead, actually. 02:00:04.830 --> 02:00:08.450 I think we're done with our part one Vietnam segment. 02:00:09.110 --> 02:00:15.070 Maybe we can invite people to share any any more Vietnam related 02:00:15.070 --> 02:00:21.030 chat or anything you wanted to you guys wanted to add in 02:00:21.030 --> 02:00:23.090 because we're going to do a part two where we're going 02:00:23.090 --> 02:00:25.950 to go into the Phoenix program in detail. 02:00:26.350 --> 02:00:28.010 We'll do a part two at some point. 02:00:28.010 --> 02:00:31.690 We'll get after after the show, actually, and do that. 02:00:32.150 --> 02:00:34.950 But Carl called in last week, I believe. 02:00:35.310 --> 02:00:35.750 Good dude. 02:00:36.050 --> 02:00:36.830 He's from the UK. 02:00:37.490 --> 02:00:37.930 Awesome. 02:00:38.410 --> 02:00:42.490 And Carl, I'm going to put the stream yard in the 02:00:42.490 --> 02:00:43.690 I'm going to put the stream yard. 02:00:43.790 --> 02:00:44.670 Anyone is welcome. 02:00:45.230 --> 02:00:47.830 If you are on Odyssey and you are watching right now 02:00:48.430 --> 02:00:52.850 and you want to call in, go to my rumble channel. 02:00:53.450 --> 02:00:55.230 And while you're doing that, Weezy, you're good. 02:00:55.230 --> 02:00:58.170 If I if I hang out with you two and stay on the chat, 02:00:58.830 --> 02:01:00.350 I'm kicking you out. 02:01:00.690 --> 02:01:01.410 Okay, cool. 02:01:01.530 --> 02:01:02.330 You hell. 02:01:02.390 --> 02:01:04.550 Yeah, I want you to fucking hang out. 02:01:04.870 --> 02:01:06.690 But I also don't want to keep you hostage. 02:01:06.890 --> 02:01:09.710 Like if you need a if you need a bone out, you need a bone out. 02:01:09.830 --> 02:01:10.710 Don't worry about it. 02:01:10.730 --> 02:01:12.550 I I ain't going to get offended either way. 02:01:12.850 --> 02:01:16.510 I would love for you to be here and hang out. 02:01:16.510 --> 02:01:20.050 Yeah, I want to I want to say I may take just a quick break. 02:01:21.070 --> 02:01:24.210 But yeah, I would love to and I would I want to chat 02:01:24.210 --> 02:01:27.530 with anyone that calls in and hear from here from y'all. 02:01:27.650 --> 02:01:30.090 And the other thing I would like to say is if you do have 02:01:30.090 --> 02:01:36.950 important stories, personal stories, links, book recommendations 02:01:36.950 --> 02:01:41.470 for me in regards to this topic, please feel free to share them. 02:01:41.610 --> 02:01:44.590 And you can find me on Weezy is going to share my links, 02:01:44.670 --> 02:01:45.590 but you can find me on Twitter. 02:01:46.110 --> 02:01:49.470 You can email me at think, change, repeat a Gmail 02:01:49.930 --> 02:01:51.510 and feel free to reach out. 02:01:51.610 --> 02:01:52.470 I would love to hear from you. 02:01:52.470 --> 02:01:55.430 And I also feel free to block any fucking weirdos. 02:01:55.910 --> 02:01:56.810 Yeah, yeah. 02:01:57.030 --> 02:01:59.330 That's not a pass to be a fucking weirdo. 02:01:59.730 --> 02:02:01.530 This is I don't know. 02:02:01.570 --> 02:02:03.910 I don't want to speak for you, Ashley, but you are a woman. 02:02:04.950 --> 02:02:06.070 And yeah, don't make it weird. 02:02:06.670 --> 02:02:07.050 Yeah. 02:02:08.930 --> 02:02:12.110 Unfortunately, dudes, y'all can be fucking weird. 02:02:12.290 --> 02:02:13.250 So don't be fucking weird. 02:02:13.810 --> 02:02:18.230 Like if you got some sincere and legitimate recommendations, 02:02:18.550 --> 02:02:19.210 fucking send them out. 02:02:19.290 --> 02:02:21.990 But don't be fucking sending stupid ass emails. 02:02:22.810 --> 02:02:27.150 Yeah, some of my friends, the people that I've met 02:02:27.150 --> 02:02:28.850 in the chat over on nights in the storm, 02:02:29.030 --> 02:02:31.790 I've had emails from those guys, 02:02:31.890 --> 02:02:34.430 and everybody has been absolutely amazing to me. 02:02:34.550 --> 02:02:35.550 And I really appreciate it. 02:02:35.550 --> 02:02:37.470 And I like chatting with them and hearing from them 02:02:37.470 --> 02:02:38.650 and hearing what they think. 02:02:38.690 --> 02:02:39.370 That's the other thing. 02:02:39.470 --> 02:02:40.870 There's so much to learn from the chat. 02:02:41.190 --> 02:02:42.990 People know so much. 02:02:43.290 --> 02:02:44.990 And what I was going to say, too, 02:02:45.090 --> 02:02:47.810 is that I really care about getting this right. 02:02:47.890 --> 02:02:51.990 And I really care about learning the whole picture 02:02:51.990 --> 02:02:53.930 in as much as I possibly can. 02:02:54.230 --> 02:02:57.610 And I'm going to save this for next time. 02:02:57.770 --> 02:03:01.470 But I think that Wheezy will really like this, 02:03:01.510 --> 02:03:09.790 that there is a connection to Phoenix, PTK, and Michael Aquino, 02:03:10.030 --> 02:03:10.810 or Michael Aquino. 02:03:11.450 --> 02:03:13.830 So I'll leave that little nugget there. 02:03:14.070 --> 02:03:17.130 Is it Michael Aquino, the author of 02:03:19.850 --> 02:03:22.270 the Cross and the Sacred Mushroom? 02:03:22.790 --> 02:03:27.950 He is the one that was an acolyte of Anton LaVe 02:03:27.950 --> 02:03:29.110 for the Church of Satan. 02:03:29.470 --> 02:03:31.210 And then he started the Temple of Sett. 02:03:31.630 --> 02:03:33.290 He was a Vietnam veteran. 02:03:33.950 --> 02:03:36.330 And then he came back and he was working 02:03:36.330 --> 02:03:39.110 in the offices of psychological operations. 02:03:39.490 --> 02:03:44.510 And he's implicated in Dave McGowan, his coverage, 02:03:44.510 --> 02:03:51.890 not specifically Dave, but in the Presidio Child Harm Ring. 02:03:52.590 --> 02:03:54.850 Oh, you can say it. 02:03:55.450 --> 02:03:57.070 You can say it on here. 02:03:57.330 --> 02:04:00.070 The pedophile ring involved in Presidio and the military base. 02:04:01.570 --> 02:04:03.670 Fuckin' hell, Ashley. 02:04:03.930 --> 02:04:06.550 I had no idea of any other shit you just said, 02:04:06.610 --> 02:04:07.430 the Anton LaVe. 02:04:07.710 --> 02:04:12.290 The only time I've ever heard Michael Aquino 02:04:13.010 --> 02:04:16.130 was when I used to listen to Joe Rogan 02:04:18.690 --> 02:04:19.290 religiously. 02:04:20.690 --> 02:04:23.790 He would constantly talk about Michael Aquino's book, 02:04:25.310 --> 02:04:28.030 the Cross and the Sacred Mushroom. 02:04:28.570 --> 02:04:33.170 Basically talking about how I haven't read the book. 02:04:33.330 --> 02:04:37.610 I wanted to read the book just to see what the fuck was 02:04:37.610 --> 02:04:40.190 all this hype about from Joe Rogan. 02:04:41.390 --> 02:04:44.830 Because I was a Joe Rogan fan at one point, you know, 02:04:44.850 --> 02:04:47.850 this was when I was a Joe Rogan fan. 02:04:47.990 --> 02:04:51.130 But the sacred cross and the mushroom. 02:04:51.350 --> 02:04:51.690 Some shit. 02:04:52.030 --> 02:04:54.730 Maybe I'm getting it back and forth the cross 02:04:54.730 --> 02:04:56.310 or the bits of mushroom. 02:04:56.530 --> 02:04:59.330 One of those motherfuckers and the other motherfucker. 02:05:01.710 --> 02:05:03.510 I can't remember exactly the name. 02:05:04.850 --> 02:05:08.050 But basic, essentially, from what I understand, 02:05:08.290 --> 02:05:09.110 I haven't read the book. 02:05:09.670 --> 02:05:13.370 But based on listening to Joe Rogan for hundreds and hundreds 02:05:13.370 --> 02:05:15.650 of if not thousands of fucking hours, 02:05:16.990 --> 02:05:21.350 he would often talk about Mr. Aquino's book 02:05:22.370 --> 02:05:25.250 and how I guess the premise in that book 02:05:25.250 --> 02:05:27.730 is how psychedelics shape the world. 02:05:28.230 --> 02:05:30.750 How, you know, in the Old Testament, 02:05:31.070 --> 02:05:33.410 Moses is talking to a burning bush. 02:05:34.270 --> 02:05:36.370 And according to Mr. Aquino, 02:05:37.430 --> 02:05:40.790 based on that book is oh, he was probably on psychedelics. 02:05:40.810 --> 02:05:43.470 That's why he was talking to a fucking bush and shit like that. 02:05:43.950 --> 02:05:49.550 I had no motherfucking idea this dude was balls deep 02:05:49.550 --> 02:05:52.930 and other nefarious shit, like Anton LeVay and all that. 02:05:53.010 --> 02:05:56.710 God damn, you just so I'm not my world. 02:05:57.070 --> 02:05:58.550 I'm not sure the mushroom in the same. 02:05:58.890 --> 02:06:01.370 So I looked it up and it looks like that is they're 02:06:01.370 --> 02:06:02.890 saying John Allegro. 02:06:03.030 --> 02:06:04.790 And there's also Michael Colin. 02:06:04.990 --> 02:06:05.530 Damn it. 02:06:05.530 --> 02:06:08.390 There's also Michael Pollan that was involved in some of that. 02:06:08.450 --> 02:06:09.870 Yeah, Michael Allegro. 02:06:10.210 --> 02:06:10.590 Yeah. 02:06:11.210 --> 02:06:13.130 So that was a different guy. 02:06:13.470 --> 02:06:18.430 However, let me just read this quick. 02:06:18.770 --> 02:06:18.910 My bad. 02:06:19.030 --> 02:06:20.610 I just got a fact check by Ashley. 02:06:20.930 --> 02:06:24.790 No, I don't know why that name just popped into my fucking head. 02:06:25.190 --> 02:06:25.810 I know I know. 02:06:28.050 --> 02:06:31.150 And Aquino is talked about or Aquino. 02:06:31.490 --> 02:06:32.890 I'm not unsure of the pronunciation, 02:06:32.890 --> 02:06:37.450 but a lot of people and I'm sure that Joe Rogan has talked about him 02:06:37.450 --> 02:06:40.310 because he is implicated in the Presidio. 02:06:40.650 --> 02:06:45.650 However, he was also working on psychological operations 02:06:45.650 --> 02:06:48.010 and he was allowed to continue with impunity. 02:06:49.170 --> 02:06:51.090 Dana Duda talks about him a good amount. 02:06:51.650 --> 02:06:52.690 So this is from PTK. 02:06:52.850 --> 02:06:54.170 And this is what Dave had to say. 02:06:54.270 --> 02:06:55.310 And I'm not really going to show. 02:06:55.870 --> 02:06:56.250 I'm sorry. 02:06:56.570 --> 02:07:00.230 I'm going to show with you and Dana Duda to females. 02:07:00.890 --> 02:07:03.930 She I mean, honestly, the information. 02:07:04.710 --> 02:07:05.650 Yeah, she's cool. 02:07:05.890 --> 02:07:06.190 Shit, man. 02:07:06.590 --> 02:07:10.550 Yeah, it's if you don't mind it like we'll get together. 02:07:10.730 --> 02:07:15.610 We'll do a show and it'll be a show with fucking girl power. 02:07:15.730 --> 02:07:18.270 I know some motherfuckers will probably be like, oh, that's woke. 02:07:18.590 --> 02:07:19.250 I don't give a fuck. 02:07:19.370 --> 02:07:20.030 Fuck your woke. 02:07:21.110 --> 02:07:22.330 We'll have girl power. 02:07:22.670 --> 02:07:26.510 But my show, I've said it over and over. 02:07:26.790 --> 02:07:28.370 I don't want no motherfucking echo chambers. 02:07:28.370 --> 02:07:30.330 I'll talk to people that are different. 02:07:30.430 --> 02:07:32.010 I'll do shows that are different. 02:07:32.250 --> 02:07:35.010 I ain't going to do shows like everyone fucking else. 02:07:35.230 --> 02:07:36.370 My shit's going to be different. 02:07:36.490 --> 02:07:38.030 I don't give a fuck if you don't like it. 02:07:38.070 --> 02:07:38.990 Don't listen to it. 02:07:39.090 --> 02:07:40.890 That's my that's my policy. 02:07:41.410 --> 02:07:42.030 So hell yeah. 02:07:42.310 --> 02:07:45.110 And the things that she has come up with are 02:07:45.850 --> 02:07:48.470 and reported on and the connections made between 02:07:48.470 --> 02:07:52.650 Scientology process, Elron Hubbard, like all of this. 02:07:52.890 --> 02:07:54.370 It's really mind blowing. 02:07:54.690 --> 02:07:57.110 And let me just read this quick blip from PTK. 02:07:58.710 --> 02:08:03.810 So Dave McGowan is talking about that Michael Aquino or Aquino 02:08:03.810 --> 02:08:06.750 joined the Church of Satan upon his return from Vietnam 02:08:06.750 --> 02:08:09.790 where he was a psychological warfare specialist, 02:08:09.950 --> 02:08:14.850 which very likely means he served as part of the Phoenix program. 02:08:15.090 --> 02:08:18.930 So I thought that that was a really amazing connection 02:08:18.930 --> 02:08:20.530 that Dave McGowan made. 02:08:20.550 --> 02:08:24.390 And there's so much more to dig into with Dave McGowan's work 02:08:24.390 --> 02:08:28.050 and his talking or his discussion of Operation Phoenix. 02:08:28.330 --> 02:08:33.770 It's mentioned several times in the in PTK. 02:08:34.970 --> 02:08:38.990 And like I said before, he had made the connection with Otis tool 02:08:38.990 --> 02:08:43.790 or excuse me Otis tool and the Phoenix teams as well. 02:08:44.190 --> 02:08:48.830 So I think that it's just a topic that you could have so 02:08:49.630 --> 02:08:51.430 you could go so in depth. 02:08:51.590 --> 02:08:52.770 There's so much to talk about there. 02:08:52.770 --> 02:08:55.790 So I thought that you would enjoy that little nugget about McGowan, 02:08:57.290 --> 02:08:59.210 Aquino and Phoenix. 02:09:00.210 --> 02:09:01.050 Yeah, yeah. 02:09:01.670 --> 02:09:05.890 And David McGowan, as I've said over and over on my show, 02:09:06.110 --> 02:09:10.870 is that he's someone that I look up to. 02:09:11.690 --> 02:09:16.890 I know he's been gone for 10 years at this point. 02:09:17.670 --> 02:09:19.150 He died in 2015. 02:09:22.830 --> 02:09:24.430 And I have a little show. 02:09:25.810 --> 02:09:29.410 And ever since I discovered Dave McGowan's work, 02:09:30.530 --> 02:09:32.050 I don't know what it was. 02:09:32.790 --> 02:09:35.670 If I'm being honest, I just felt drawn to him. 02:09:36.430 --> 02:09:39.190 And I was like, I'm going to carry his torch. 02:09:39.790 --> 02:09:44.290 So whenever you hear me say it, like this is in my shit. 02:09:44.390 --> 02:09:45.290 This is David McGowan's. 02:09:45.350 --> 02:09:48.310 This is the most I feel like it's my duty to do so. 02:09:49.670 --> 02:09:53.610 You can't say I'm kissing ass to David McGowan because he's dead. 02:09:54.410 --> 02:09:55.750 Whose ass am I going to kiss? 02:09:56.090 --> 02:09:57.670 He's not going to get me on an old goddamn show. 02:09:57.990 --> 02:09:59.030 He ain't going to do nothing for me. 02:09:59.510 --> 02:10:00.190 He's dead. 02:10:00.470 --> 02:10:01.650 He's been dead for 10 years. 02:10:01.950 --> 02:10:04.590 I'm doing it because I feel that's the right thing to do. 02:10:05.230 --> 02:10:06.530 He's the one that did that work. 02:10:06.950 --> 02:10:09.870 He's the one that changed my way of looking at shit. 02:10:10.790 --> 02:10:13.510 And I'm going to try to carry the torch the best that I can. 02:10:16.010 --> 02:10:17.730 And I think you know what I'm talking about. 02:10:17.730 --> 02:10:19.350 But one gentleman. 02:10:22.130 --> 02:10:27.390 Let me know that David McGowan's brother has. 02:10:27.750 --> 02:10:32.470 I don't know if he regularly does or whatever, but has at the very least 02:10:32.470 --> 02:10:33.990 tuned into my show. 02:10:35.050 --> 02:10:41.050 He has listened to my takes on the Lincoln assassination and says, yeah. 02:10:41.150 --> 02:10:41.470 Amazing. 02:10:42.030 --> 02:10:44.410 My brother would have vibed with that. 02:10:45.150 --> 02:10:50.090 That to me is the ultimate compliment that I could receive. 02:10:52.870 --> 02:10:58.250 I've mentioned this in the past, but I've had dreams of meeting David McGowan. 02:10:58.830 --> 02:11:03.670 Like this is how much of a hardcore fan that I've become of David McGowan. 02:11:04.070 --> 02:11:05.970 I had a couple of dreams. 02:11:06.690 --> 02:11:07.390 I had one dream. 02:11:07.870 --> 02:11:10.910 You know how most of the time when you wake up and if you don't write 02:11:10.910 --> 02:11:12.770 down your dreams, you forget about them, right? 02:11:13.430 --> 02:11:16.690 Well, these dreams, but no, they're ingrained in my head. 02:11:17.470 --> 02:11:18.650 One of those dreams. 02:11:20.150 --> 02:11:27.250 I woke up and in my dream, I was in this like 1970s home. 02:11:27.630 --> 02:11:31.170 They had wood floors, wood, wood siding and shit. 02:11:31.790 --> 02:11:35.290 I went up to the second floor and David McGowan was writing books. 02:11:35.930 --> 02:11:39.570 And he had white hair, even though in real life, like when he died, 02:11:39.670 --> 02:11:40.610 he didn't have white hair. 02:11:40.610 --> 02:11:42.130 But in my dream, he had white hair. 02:11:42.310 --> 02:11:45.330 He had the same David McGowan face, but he had white hair. 02:11:45.910 --> 02:11:47.070 He was writing books and shit. 02:11:47.770 --> 02:11:51.230 And I was like, dude, this is so fucking awesome to meet you. 02:11:51.750 --> 02:11:54.050 And in my dream, I knew he was dead. 02:11:54.490 --> 02:11:55.490 I knew he was dead. 02:11:57.010 --> 02:12:00.730 And I was talking to him, but you know how dreams don't make sense? 02:12:01.570 --> 02:12:02.690 That's what it was like. 02:12:02.850 --> 02:12:06.490 I knew he was dead, but I was still hanging out with David McGowan. 02:12:08.330 --> 02:12:11.250 And obviously, what I'm talking about right now is like, what the fuck? 02:12:11.570 --> 02:12:12.930 How can you be talking to someone who's dead? 02:12:13.030 --> 02:12:14.570 It made sense in my fucking dream. 02:12:15.310 --> 02:12:19.390 And so I'm sitting there talking to David McGowan and McGowan's like, 02:12:19.930 --> 02:12:23.670 he goes, yeah, man, your Lincoln shit is on point and shit like that. 02:12:23.730 --> 02:12:27.630 I'm like, God damn, dude, David McGowan is telling me my shit is on point. 02:12:29.250 --> 02:12:33.370 And like I said, most of the time you forget your dreams like immediately. 02:12:33.910 --> 02:12:37.810 Now, I still remember that because for whatever reason, that shit was special to me. 02:12:38.050 --> 02:12:40.910 It was just a fucking dream, but it was special to me. 02:12:41.350 --> 02:12:44.730 And so, yeah, I believe in the importance of dreams. 02:12:44.890 --> 02:12:48.530 And here's something that I think is interesting in conversation. 02:12:48.970 --> 02:12:52.250 Oh, and I also want to say thank you to my friend, Wizard, because 02:12:52.890 --> 02:12:57.270 he has helped me work through a lot of my presentation, a lot of the stuff 02:12:57.270 --> 02:13:02.070 that we wanted to talk about because I cared about doing a good job today. 02:13:02.070 --> 02:13:06.550 I wanted to have good conversation, good coverage, and talk about things that mattered. 02:13:06.750 --> 02:13:10.570 And he has helped me and supported me so very much. 02:13:10.650 --> 02:13:12.170 So I want to say thank you so much to him. 02:13:12.430 --> 02:13:15.550 But one of the things that we talked about in our conversations, 02:13:15.550 --> 02:13:20.550 as far as like mind control or MK or what they were doing to people in Vietnam, 02:13:20.850 --> 02:13:27.730 is that one of the rubs that they never could get right with their mind control is dreams. 02:13:28.270 --> 02:13:30.850 So I think that that's a really interesting thing. 02:13:30.850 --> 02:13:33.850 So people would even be remembering things in dreams. 02:13:34.050 --> 02:13:37.990 And then I've had other people, other friends tell me that they saw a loved one in their dream 02:13:37.990 --> 02:13:42.350 that was so happy that they had a baby and they weren't even pregnant yet, 02:13:42.370 --> 02:13:44.130 or a family member had these dreams. 02:13:44.430 --> 02:13:47.670 So I think that dreams sometimes can just be you processing, 02:13:47.670 --> 02:13:51.370 but I think sometimes dreams are actually very important. 02:13:51.710 --> 02:13:55.370 And maybe this was a message for you that you are on the right path, 02:13:55.490 --> 02:13:58.190 that you are doing something that matters, that matters to you, 02:13:58.190 --> 02:14:02.310 and it matters to getting out a message and doing work that you care about. 02:14:02.670 --> 02:14:04.010 And I think that's amazing. 02:14:05.330 --> 02:14:06.410 Yeah, I don't know. 02:14:07.230 --> 02:14:08.430 I'm not trying to be funny. 02:14:08.570 --> 02:14:09.970 I don't know what to make of that. 02:14:10.790 --> 02:14:14.850 Last week, I did a show on the Epic of Gilgamesh. 02:14:16.030 --> 02:14:18.570 I didn't know if anyone was going to be listening to that. 02:14:18.710 --> 02:14:20.690 We only had like 30 people in the live stream, 02:14:21.830 --> 02:14:24.650 but it ended up getting well over a thousand. 02:14:24.650 --> 02:14:29.070 Like I think last I checked 1500 downloads on rumble, 02:14:29.650 --> 02:14:32.750 a thousand on Spotify and whatnot. 02:14:33.130 --> 02:14:36.590 I mean, it got a lot of shit, even though I didn't expect it to. 02:14:37.450 --> 02:14:42.290 But one of the recurrent themes in the Epic of Gilgamesh was the importance of dreams. 02:14:43.410 --> 02:14:49.270 Now, if the tale of what we've been told that the Epic of Gilgamesh is the oldest story 02:14:49.850 --> 02:14:51.150 told in human history, 02:14:53.070 --> 02:14:58.510 even superseding the Bible, that is wild because in the Epic of Gilgamesh, 02:14:59.950 --> 02:15:10.130 before Nkudu is born or made, if you will, Gilgamesh's mother tells him, 02:15:10.250 --> 02:15:15.490 look, there's a motherfucker that's going to be coming into this world. 02:15:16.750 --> 02:15:18.630 So catch my show that I did. 02:15:18.790 --> 02:15:19.810 I got a lot of great feedback. 02:15:20.390 --> 02:15:27.750 Gilgamesh was as big as 16 foot, dude, super strong, super badass, serial rapist. 02:15:29.170 --> 02:15:32.770 But his mom says there's a dude that's going to come 02:15:33.830 --> 02:15:38.170 to you and he's going to be your equal because he was so much bigger than everyone. 02:15:38.450 --> 02:15:39.710 He thought he could bully everyone. 02:15:39.950 --> 02:15:41.630 He thought he could rape anyone he wanted. 02:15:42.390 --> 02:15:47.110 And Nkudu comes down and says, dude, I'm going to stop your rapist ways. 02:15:47.910 --> 02:15:50.390 And Nkudu, like he's like the opposite. 02:15:50.610 --> 02:15:53.350 He's the yin and the yang and Nkudu 02:15:55.210 --> 02:15:56.230 battles them out. 02:15:56.430 --> 02:15:59.690 But his mom had a premonition, had dreams about this shit. 02:16:00.790 --> 02:16:08.690 Later on, Nkudu, they go so quick, fast forward, watch, listen to my episode. 02:16:09.030 --> 02:16:11.810 I gave the ghetto wheezy rendition of it. 02:16:12.950 --> 02:16:15.330 But I listened to it this week. 02:16:15.330 --> 02:16:18.730 I did a pretty good job, but it's pretty fucking ghetto. 02:16:18.910 --> 02:16:19.430 It's X rated. 02:16:22.910 --> 02:16:25.230 But it could do later on. 02:16:25.450 --> 02:16:25.910 He's dying. 02:16:26.170 --> 02:16:28.450 He's dying and he's having dreams that he's dying. 02:16:29.630 --> 02:16:32.710 And I guess the reason I brought that up is because 02:16:33.710 --> 02:16:42.790 here is what we are told as the oldest story in humankind and the value they put into dreams. 02:16:44.670 --> 02:16:51.650 5,000 years ago, through resonates today, where here I tell you here, I tell you a story 02:16:52.190 --> 02:16:54.170 of my dreams of Dave McGowan. 02:16:55.350 --> 02:16:56.810 I don't know what to make of it. 02:16:56.930 --> 02:16:57.790 I don't know what it means. 02:16:58.450 --> 02:16:59.650 You're saying it's this. 02:17:00.130 --> 02:17:03.530 I don't know what to fucking make, but the importance of a fucking dream, 02:17:04.050 --> 02:17:05.310 a dream that hits hard. 02:17:05.690 --> 02:17:10.170 And so these ancients may let's say this the official story is true. 02:17:10.250 --> 02:17:12.610 And this story is 5,000 years old. 02:17:13.450 --> 02:17:14.970 They're emphasizing dreams. 02:17:15.690 --> 02:17:16.170 Yep. 02:17:16.370 --> 02:17:18.870 I don't know what it is, but it's fucking wild to me. 02:17:19.150 --> 02:17:19.850 It is. 02:17:20.070 --> 02:17:20.830 I think it's important. 02:17:21.050 --> 02:17:23.670 I mean, maybe not always, but I think a lot of times they are. 02:17:23.970 --> 02:17:28.690 And I like even using that as an example that even in mind control, 02:17:28.690 --> 02:17:32.090 where they have had an opportunity to hypnotize and do anything that they 02:17:32.090 --> 02:17:34.610 wanted to people abuse them in any kind of way, drug them. 02:17:35.250 --> 02:17:38.290 They cannot get rid of the dreams. 02:17:39.550 --> 02:17:42.230 I think that that matters. 02:17:42.230 --> 02:17:44.610 I think that's an important piece of information for us. 02:17:45.110 --> 02:17:45.630 Yeah. 02:17:46.050 --> 02:17:49.750 I stopped dreaming when I started snoring. 02:17:51.850 --> 02:17:52.370 Yeah. 02:17:52.470 --> 02:17:55.690 And I guess scientifically it makes sense because I'm not getting any oxygen in my head. 02:17:56.190 --> 02:17:56.450 Right. 02:17:56.710 --> 02:18:00.250 Because it's and it's affecting your like your depth of sleep and things like that. 02:18:00.730 --> 02:18:04.910 But I mean, this is kind of personal, but I don't give a fuck. 02:18:05.530 --> 02:18:11.410 I started using a machine, a CPAP machine, which normally old people use and 02:18:11.410 --> 02:18:16.570 and by golly, it has brought back my dreams. 02:18:17.110 --> 02:18:18.270 I'm no longer snoring. 02:18:18.690 --> 02:18:19.930 And it's good for my brain. 02:18:20.090 --> 02:18:20.830 Like I thought about it. 02:18:20.910 --> 02:18:24.330 I'm like, God, I do feel like an old man using this shit, blah, blah, blah. 02:18:24.570 --> 02:18:26.290 But I'm like, God, damn, I was killing myself. 02:18:26.690 --> 02:18:27.470 You don't realize it. 02:18:27.510 --> 02:18:29.630 But when you're snoring, you're killing yours. 02:18:29.730 --> 02:18:30.110 You're dying. 02:18:30.570 --> 02:18:30.690 You need to breathe. 02:18:31.230 --> 02:18:32.070 You need to be able to breathe. 02:18:32.090 --> 02:18:32.250 You need to breathe. 02:18:33.570 --> 02:18:36.090 And if you're not breathing, you're snoring like, God, damn. 02:18:36.770 --> 02:18:39.650 And so I got this CPAP machine. 02:18:39.810 --> 02:18:40.430 I was embarrassed. 02:18:41.410 --> 02:18:45.270 Getting it at first, but now I've been using it for almost a year. 02:18:45.350 --> 02:18:47.170 And I'm like, God, that's that works wonders. 02:18:47.450 --> 02:18:49.230 And now my dreams have come back. 02:18:49.450 --> 02:18:50.450 I'm starting to dream again. 02:18:50.630 --> 02:18:52.570 I'm like, damn, this is badass. 02:18:53.010 --> 02:18:58.130 So that was a good, that was a good move because I didn't have dreams for many years. 02:18:59.250 --> 02:19:01.530 And people would tell me, oh, man, I had a nightmare. 02:19:01.910 --> 02:19:03.310 I wish I had a fucking nightmare. 02:19:03.510 --> 02:19:06.090 I wasn't having dreams because I was snoring so bad. 02:19:06.310 --> 02:19:09.630 I didn't have anything nightmares or dreams, nothing. 02:19:09.630 --> 02:19:11.110 I was just dying. 02:19:11.270 --> 02:19:12.490 I was killing my brain cells. 02:19:13.050 --> 02:19:21.030 And so anyone that is able to dream like treasure that, that is a gift. 02:19:21.510 --> 02:19:23.010 And it's an amazing gift. 02:19:23.690 --> 02:19:24.510 This is true. 02:19:24.650 --> 02:19:28.650 I had a weird dream the other night and I normally don't dream that much either. 02:19:28.650 --> 02:19:42.850 And I used to ingest a lot of THC and that will affect your ability to dream or whatever. 02:19:43.790 --> 02:19:51.670 I didn't really dream during, and that's one of the things that it does prevent your dreaming 02:19:51.670 --> 02:19:53.810 or getting to that level of sleep. 02:19:54.250 --> 02:19:56.890 And I don't really do that very much. 02:19:56.890 --> 02:20:00.290 Not that I never do, not whatever, but I don't do it much anymore. 02:20:00.670 --> 02:20:06.010 And I thought that my dreams would kind of come back and, you know, but I don't, 02:20:06.070 --> 02:20:09.430 I still don't really remember my dreams all that often every now and again. 02:20:13.990 --> 02:20:14.830 Oh, sorry. 02:20:15.010 --> 02:20:16.310 I said, yeah, that was. 02:20:17.790 --> 02:20:18.630 Yeah, it's. 02:20:21.410 --> 02:20:22.950 I don't know what to make of dreams. 02:20:23.810 --> 02:20:24.910 I mean, are they divine? 02:20:25.610 --> 02:20:29.570 Or is it our brain synapses? 02:20:30.470 --> 02:20:33.510 No, sending energy electrodes. 02:20:33.710 --> 02:20:35.970 I don't know what to make of any of that shit these days. 02:20:36.130 --> 02:20:36.890 I really don't. 02:20:38.010 --> 02:20:43.830 It almost seems like you're forced to take aside like your for science or your for creationism. 02:20:44.330 --> 02:20:50.010 What if I'm in the zone where I'm like, fuck, both of y'all, I don't know what I'm in. 02:20:50.550 --> 02:20:51.310 I'm not that. 02:20:51.550 --> 02:20:52.350 I'm not this. 02:20:53.650 --> 02:20:55.310 So where do I fit in? 02:20:55.470 --> 02:20:56.450 I don't fucking know these. 02:20:56.950 --> 02:21:02.070 Yeah, I think it while not to speak for you, but I think it sounds like you are open to 02:21:02.770 --> 02:21:03.710 more information. 02:21:03.970 --> 02:21:05.390 You're open to changing your mind. 02:21:05.530 --> 02:21:09.470 You're open to figuring out what you think. 02:21:10.090 --> 02:21:15.730 But I tend to think that it is, especially if it stays with you and it feels impactful 02:21:15.730 --> 02:21:20.390 to you and is associated with something that's impactful and important to you in your life. 02:21:20.390 --> 02:21:22.350 I tend to think that it is important. 02:21:23.130 --> 02:21:29.910 And I know that dreams are not exactly the same as some of the near-death experiences that we hear 02:21:29.910 --> 02:21:33.570 about, but I do feel like there's a certain amount of overlap there. 02:21:36.950 --> 02:21:43.390 Okay, there are books that are talking about the scientific or the scientific documentation 02:21:43.390 --> 02:21:50.730 at least or the verification of near-death experiences and it is a pretty well-known 02:21:50.730 --> 02:21:51.990 documented phenomenon. 02:21:52.290 --> 02:21:57.050 And I think that it is enough for me to think there's something here. 02:21:57.250 --> 02:22:01.810 I'm not, again, I'm not necessarily saying exactly what I think that it is or 02:22:04.590 --> 02:22:07.930 from a religious perspective or whatever, but I think that it's important. 02:22:08.090 --> 02:22:12.770 And I think there's some overlap to that with dreams because it's a state that you 02:22:14.110 --> 02:22:16.930 are outside of yourself. 02:22:17.710 --> 02:22:18.830 You're not involved. 02:22:18.970 --> 02:22:19.870 You're literally dreaming. 02:22:20.250 --> 02:22:27.650 And not exactly in near-death experiences, but I'm just saying I think that maybe that lends 02:22:27.650 --> 02:22:32.510 a little bit of credence to both of those things being important and interesting. 02:22:35.010 --> 02:22:39.230 Yeah, and this is what, this is my story right here. 02:22:39.830 --> 02:22:44.550 Unfortunately people put too much emphasis on labels and feel like they need to pick a side. 02:22:44.710 --> 02:22:44.830 Why? 02:22:45.330 --> 02:22:46.290 That's a damn good question. 02:22:46.390 --> 02:22:47.250 That's where I'm at right now. 02:22:47.470 --> 02:22:49.530 That's why I haven't chosen a fucking side. 02:22:50.030 --> 02:22:52.370 I don't know where I belong. 02:22:52.590 --> 02:22:54.750 Maybe there's no fucking box you can put me in. 02:22:56.110 --> 02:22:57.770 And I'm okay with that. 02:22:58.630 --> 02:23:01.350 And I don't lose any sleep over that. 02:23:02.670 --> 02:23:08.790 I talk to people that are more Republican leaning and they will label me as a Biden 02:23:08.790 --> 02:23:09.970 lover as a Democrat. 02:23:10.750 --> 02:23:17.170 I'll talk to a Biden supporter or a Kamala Harris supporter and they label me as a Trump supporter. 02:23:19.370 --> 02:23:21.630 And my view is fuck all them. 02:23:22.650 --> 02:23:24.510 You can't put me on a fucking side. 02:23:25.390 --> 02:23:31.850 And so I'm the same way when it comes to science and religion. 02:23:32.590 --> 02:23:35.930 You know, you have the people in the science saying you have to, 02:23:36.030 --> 02:23:37.610 this is the only way to look at it. 02:23:37.610 --> 02:23:39.110 This is reality, blah, blah, blah. 02:23:39.530 --> 02:23:42.510 Then you have the religious people saying, no, these texts are blah, blah, blah, 02:23:42.750 --> 02:23:43.470 or the real truth. 02:23:43.990 --> 02:23:46.970 And I don't trust any of them motherfuckers. 02:23:48.950 --> 02:23:51.230 And some people will get triggered by that. 02:23:51.990 --> 02:23:55.250 I've gotten comments saying wheezy. 02:23:55.410 --> 02:24:00.830 I was with you but you need to accept Jesus or fuck you in your show essentially. 02:24:01.710 --> 02:24:03.150 I'm like, all right. 02:24:03.210 --> 02:24:06.670 Then I guess fuck me on my show because I ain't picking no motherfucking side. 02:24:09.150 --> 02:24:17.750 Um, if if I don't have 100% proof or evidence, why do you expect me to go with it? 02:24:19.650 --> 02:24:25.710 You know, I, you, I'm going to feel the way I feel about shit. 02:24:25.910 --> 02:24:29.270 I'm going to think about shit the way I think about it. 02:24:30.190 --> 02:24:33.750 But because it doesn't fit in your little box that you think 02:24:34.270 --> 02:24:37.470 you're going to fucking cast judgment upon me, then fuck you. 02:24:37.610 --> 02:24:39.710 Leave your one star and get the fuck out of here. 02:24:40.390 --> 02:24:45.330 Yeah, I mean, personally, I do agree with that comment and I think that it's weird. 02:24:46.070 --> 02:24:51.150 I think that if you are for the truth and your anti-imperialism, 02:24:51.770 --> 02:24:56.750 like from a government level, like what we've just been talking about, or if you are, um, 02:24:57.210 --> 02:25:01.030 on the path to try to figure things out, or if you are on, if you consider yourself 02:25:01.030 --> 02:25:06.610 an agorist or an anarchist, then where do you get off trying to tell someone else 02:25:06.610 --> 02:25:11.670 how they have to be? That is counterintuitive for the entire narrative. 02:25:11.930 --> 02:25:18.130 And even if you, if you were subscribed to a particular religion or whatever that may be, 02:25:18.310 --> 02:25:19.490 then I respect that. 02:25:19.630 --> 02:25:20.650 You know, I'm totally fine with that. 02:25:20.890 --> 02:25:28.510 But everybody is on their own path and you can make a supportive comment to them. 02:25:28.550 --> 02:25:31.890 But if you think that ragging on someone and telling them that they need X, 02:25:31.990 --> 02:25:34.870 Y, and Z is going to help your cause, I don't think that it is. 02:25:35.610 --> 02:25:41.270 And I think that it's weird if people try to do that, especially in, 02:25:41.950 --> 02:25:48.050 you know, whatever this space is called, alternative media, truth, you know, 02:25:48.610 --> 02:25:50.410 I got involved in the, I don't either. 02:25:50.830 --> 02:25:55.990 And I got involved in this originally because I was an anarchist because I woke up to, 02:25:56.450 --> 02:26:00.950 you know, the government and, uh, but then along the way, 02:26:00.950 --> 02:26:05.290 you meet people that are on all kinds of the spectrum. 02:26:05.590 --> 02:26:08.570 Some people that are more left-leaning, right-leaning, like you said, 02:26:08.710 --> 02:26:12.010 some people that still subscribe to politics in a limited way, like, 02:26:12.130 --> 02:26:17.970 oh, well, I like Thomas Massey or whatever that may be. 02:26:19.650 --> 02:26:24.370 And I like Tucker Carlson because he's dropping troop bombs these days. 02:26:24.830 --> 02:26:27.570 Yeah. Tucker is my favorite CIA agent. 02:26:28.350 --> 02:26:29.610 He's very good at his job. 02:26:29.610 --> 02:26:35.070 Yeah. So we meet people on this huge spectrum of wherever they are. 02:26:35.230 --> 02:26:38.930 Now, I also wanted to tell you that on the nights of the storm today, 02:26:39.130 --> 02:26:46.530 we had a lady that's in the chat sometimes, but she joined us on this MK Mind Control episode. 02:26:47.050 --> 02:26:50.890 And she was talking about basically her judgment or her lens for people. 02:26:50.970 --> 02:26:53.190 And she said, if I know your name, you're in the game. 02:26:54.090 --> 02:26:59.130 And I thought that that was a pretty good, you know, a pretty good way to say 02:27:00.230 --> 02:27:05.690 as far as like who is working for what out there. 02:27:05.830 --> 02:27:11.450 And actually, I feel like that aligns pretty well with the graphs and the tweet threads 02:27:11.450 --> 02:27:14.650 that Seven Seas puts out because he is taking them down. 02:27:14.950 --> 02:27:17.670 He's taking down Tucker. Of course, he's taking down Candace. 02:27:17.750 --> 02:27:18.770 He's taking down Massey. 02:27:18.870 --> 02:27:21.990 He's taking down Rand Paul and Ron Paul and all of them. 02:27:22.710 --> 02:27:26.450 Yeah. So I know there's people that 02:27:27.850 --> 02:27:30.730 really, really enjoy my shows with Seven Seas. 02:27:31.170 --> 02:27:33.730 That's probably the only time they listen to my ass. 02:27:35.030 --> 02:27:39.150 Me and Seven Seas, we're going to be chopping up a show very soon. 02:27:43.250 --> 02:27:44.850 How do I say this? 02:27:45.770 --> 02:27:49.570 I got to be careful with what I say because I view Seven Seas as my little brother. 02:27:49.570 --> 02:27:53.250 And I don't want to put him in any compromising situations. 02:27:53.570 --> 02:27:54.330 I love that guy. 02:27:55.350 --> 02:27:57.050 But we did a show. 02:27:57.770 --> 02:28:02.310 It got like 33,000 views on rumble, which is fucking wow. 02:28:02.530 --> 02:28:03.110 That's bananas. 02:28:03.690 --> 02:28:08.790 Haven't had really anything go like four shows go that viral in a long fucking time. 02:28:10.190 --> 02:28:14.410 And made a little bit of money off of the rumble ads. 02:28:14.590 --> 02:28:16.330 I know the rumble ads are annoying as fuck. 02:28:17.410 --> 02:28:19.290 Here's the life hack for you guys. 02:28:19.430 --> 02:28:26.690 If you guys listen on rumble, get the brave browser and listen to rumble through the brave browser. 02:28:26.890 --> 02:28:30.270 It'll block out any ads at the same time. 02:28:30.930 --> 02:28:37.110 When you do listen to ads, we creators get a little couple pennies. 02:28:37.190 --> 02:28:38.190 It ain't much. 02:28:40.950 --> 02:28:48.750 Because of the show that Seven Seas and I did on Nick Fuentes, we got 33,000 views. 02:28:49.230 --> 02:28:50.050 I made $40. 02:28:51.630 --> 02:28:56.890 People watching the show, the ads, and I sent it to Seven Seas. 02:28:57.030 --> 02:28:57.830 I go, here you go, bro. 02:28:58.210 --> 02:29:02.050 And he's like, dude, we were going to split this or you didn't have to do it. 02:29:02.150 --> 02:29:02.910 We could have split this. 02:29:03.010 --> 02:29:05.310 And I was like, no, motherfucker, that's you. 02:29:06.650 --> 02:29:07.970 And that's not me. 02:29:09.290 --> 02:29:12.610 See, normally I wouldn't have even brought this up because that's not my style. 02:29:13.710 --> 02:29:15.210 I'm only bringing it up because 02:29:17.770 --> 02:29:19.050 why am I bringing it up? 02:29:19.230 --> 02:29:23.270 I think I'm bringing it up because that's my admiration for my little brother Seven Seas. 02:29:23.410 --> 02:29:23.890 That's my homie. 02:29:25.570 --> 02:29:26.870 Anyone fucks with him. 02:29:27.350 --> 02:29:28.290 You're fucking with me. 02:29:28.650 --> 02:29:29.230 That's my homie. 02:29:31.410 --> 02:29:33.250 He doesn't have to hang out with me. 02:29:33.630 --> 02:29:35.230 He doesn't have to like me. 02:29:36.710 --> 02:29:39.630 He's a lot bigger in popularity than me. 02:29:39.970 --> 02:29:41.190 I'm a fucking no one. 02:29:43.270 --> 02:29:44.850 And he likes me a lot. 02:29:45.610 --> 02:29:47.690 And I like him a lot in return. 02:29:48.410 --> 02:29:49.170 That's my little brother. 02:29:50.070 --> 02:29:54.010 And so, you know, I guess that's why I'm bringing up that story. 02:29:54.170 --> 02:29:54.570 That's my boy. 02:29:54.690 --> 02:29:57.250 Yeah, and you produce good content together. 02:29:57.570 --> 02:30:01.970 You know, it's not only just one person, but sometimes having the dynamic 02:30:01.970 --> 02:30:05.730 between two people makes it really fun. 02:30:06.090 --> 02:30:11.010 One of my favorite podcasts ever is it was two people. 02:30:11.570 --> 02:30:16.070 And they ended up going their own separate ways for whatever reasons. 02:30:16.070 --> 02:30:21.070 And I still really like both the people, but it never was the same for me after that 02:30:21.070 --> 02:30:27.410 because there was something about that particular dynamic that really was so good to me. 02:30:27.610 --> 02:30:29.630 It was like my don't miss show. 02:30:29.810 --> 02:30:30.310 Yeah, it was amazing. 02:30:30.310 --> 02:30:36.010 So I think that that is kind of how when y'all work together, it's just like a good chemistry, 02:30:36.110 --> 02:30:40.150 a lot of good information comes out that makes it really interesting and fascinating 02:30:40.150 --> 02:30:41.750 and it makes people want to watch. 02:30:42.470 --> 02:30:44.670 Yeah, we don't even plan this shit. 02:30:45.170 --> 02:30:48.710 We just we play video games and then we're like, hey, let's do a show on this. 02:30:48.850 --> 02:30:50.270 All right, let's fucking go. 02:30:51.830 --> 02:30:58.990 And see in the I'm going to give a shout out to my boy, Chancellor. 02:31:01.370 --> 02:31:06.990 So when I started blowing up on YouTube, it was a Scottish fellow. 02:31:07.670 --> 02:31:11.210 He used the cat emoji as his profile picture. 02:31:11.430 --> 02:31:12.250 He never showed his face. 02:31:13.370 --> 02:31:15.390 Beautiful Scottish voice. 02:31:16.710 --> 02:31:18.510 Super intelligent motherfucker. 02:31:19.370 --> 02:31:23.090 And me and him brought down Sean Atwood. 02:31:23.730 --> 02:31:25.670 We it was it was a combined effort. 02:31:27.990 --> 02:31:32.430 I thought me and him were going to really go places. 02:31:32.890 --> 02:31:34.530 We got a lot of people's attentions. 02:31:34.630 --> 02:31:37.730 We got James English's attention, James English. 02:31:38.410 --> 02:31:41.050 For American viewers, you're like, who the fuck is James English? 02:31:41.350 --> 02:31:46.390 But for the UK, James English is a big time podcaster. 02:31:46.810 --> 02:31:51.010 And James English was tuning in to the shows that me and Chancellor did. 02:31:51.700 --> 02:31:56.350 And we had big dreams. 02:31:56.950 --> 02:32:00.950 We were going to do shows on this and we are chemistry was on point. 02:32:01.930 --> 02:32:05.390 Chancellor and I we fucking we fucked it up. 02:32:06.550 --> 02:32:08.250 Unfortunately, he lives in the UK. 02:32:08.550 --> 02:32:09.830 He lives in Scotland. 02:32:12.250 --> 02:32:17.170 And he was fearing that even though he didn't show his name, 02:32:17.390 --> 02:32:19.590 even though he never showed his face, 02:32:20.310 --> 02:32:24.770 he was worried that at some point, the authorities were going to knock on his fucking door and 02:32:24.770 --> 02:32:28.410 haul us to jail. Yeah, I don't blame him for that, actually. 02:32:28.570 --> 02:32:34.970 And we have somebody who is in the Knights of the Storm chat and probably would have 02:32:35.530 --> 02:32:38.070 a lot to offer in the way of conversation. 02:32:38.230 --> 02:32:42.750 But he's also in Europe and he doesn't feel comfortable either for that very same reason. 02:32:43.510 --> 02:32:44.870 Yeah, yeah. 02:32:44.990 --> 02:32:51.930 So that's what that that was shitty, because I so I guess tying it in back to seven seas, 02:32:52.470 --> 02:32:57.250 seven seas is kind of like for me, at least is a reincarnation of Chancellor. 02:32:59.210 --> 02:33:03.570 And I told seven seas that I was like, dude, my boy, Chancellor from Scotland. 02:33:05.010 --> 02:33:07.610 Me and him had great fucking chemistry. 02:33:07.610 --> 02:33:12.090 Like we became fucking legends in the UK. 02:33:12.930 --> 02:33:15.310 Like we never planned anything. 02:33:15.490 --> 02:33:17.350 It was just me and him riffing off. 02:33:17.490 --> 02:33:20.670 It was like radio talk show host boom, boom, boom, 02:33:21.370 --> 02:33:23.230 fucking 100 percent natural. 02:33:23.490 --> 02:33:24.390 He's I'm in Florida. 02:33:24.650 --> 02:33:27.790 He's in Scotland and we were fucking shit up. 02:33:27.990 --> 02:33:29.690 And sometimes that just happens. 02:33:29.910 --> 02:33:33.830 And it's so amazing because there's some like unspoken energy, 02:33:33.830 --> 02:33:37.190 which is even more impressive considering it's online. 02:33:37.190 --> 02:33:40.930 Like sometimes people just have a good back and forth, a good conversation, 02:33:41.150 --> 02:33:46.050 a good energy, a good flow in real life or from the same country. 02:33:46.130 --> 02:33:49.610 But when we're talking about internet only and different countries to have that 02:33:49.610 --> 02:33:51.190 is pretty special. 02:33:51.710 --> 02:33:55.970 And it does, you know, sometimes sometimes the the fire happens. 02:33:56.090 --> 02:33:57.170 Sometimes magic happens. 02:33:58.230 --> 02:34:01.810 Yeah, that's what happened with my boy, Chancellor. 02:34:02.610 --> 02:34:06.930 We've stayed in in touch over the years. 02:34:07.150 --> 02:34:08.670 This was many years at this point. 02:34:09.150 --> 02:34:13.150 We stayed in touch, but that was his biggest fear. 02:34:13.410 --> 02:34:18.030 And it's easy for us as Americans to say, oh, don't be a bitch. 02:34:18.190 --> 02:34:18.690 Don't be a pussy. 02:34:18.950 --> 02:34:19.970 Just do the fucking shows. 02:34:20.530 --> 02:34:21.510 It's easy to say that. 02:34:22.110 --> 02:34:25.850 But when you have a family, you can face the rest. 02:34:25.990 --> 02:34:27.790 You can lose your job over this shit. 02:34:28.390 --> 02:34:29.050 It's right. 02:34:29.730 --> 02:34:30.230 It is. 02:34:30.350 --> 02:34:31.630 And we have to respect that. 02:34:31.630 --> 02:34:35.290 And even in the States, we know that we're running that risk. 02:34:35.430 --> 02:34:38.430 And we know that it's not nearly as bad as it is in some of the other places. 02:34:38.750 --> 02:34:39.870 So yeah, I agree. 02:34:39.970 --> 02:34:45.290 We need to respect that and understand that that that is the situation there. 02:34:45.450 --> 02:34:51.890 And it's it is serious and it can have serious consequences and implications for you. 02:34:53.150 --> 02:34:55.270 And, you know, I think it's that way here. 02:34:55.630 --> 02:34:59.650 If if you happen to get a little too popular or if you get some sort of mob 02:34:59.650 --> 02:35:05.310 that's, you know, bang for blood, that they'll try to talk to you and expose you 02:35:05.310 --> 02:35:07.270 and cancel you and whatever. 02:35:07.630 --> 02:35:08.810 I, you know, it's a risk. 02:35:09.990 --> 02:35:10.430 Yeah. 02:35:11.450 --> 02:35:15.410 That's one of the reasons why I didn't use my real name when I started my show. 02:35:15.590 --> 02:35:16.450 I just use Weezy. 02:35:17.130 --> 02:35:19.610 I'm at the point, though, where I don't give a fuck. 02:35:22.050 --> 02:35:24.750 Maybe at some point, I will say my name. 02:35:25.210 --> 02:35:27.810 I mean, the the Weezy name, I've said it before, 02:35:28.190 --> 02:35:29.890 but maybe the new listeners don't know. 02:35:30.190 --> 02:35:33.870 But it was a name that was given to me when I was in high school. 02:35:34.570 --> 02:35:34.930 Okay. 02:35:35.070 --> 02:35:36.690 Yeah, I actually didn't know. 02:35:37.490 --> 02:35:38.810 Yeah, I just kept it. 02:35:38.990 --> 02:35:39.530 You know what I'm saying? 02:35:40.130 --> 02:35:40.310 Yeah. 02:35:40.430 --> 02:35:42.930 And because when I was doing the shot, that was shit. 02:35:44.850 --> 02:35:48.530 He was sending all these motherfuckers because he had a big channel at the time. 02:35:48.610 --> 02:35:51.570 He still has a big channel and he was sending all these motherfuckers. 02:35:51.710 --> 02:35:53.870 They were going to uncover me, find out where I live, 02:35:53.870 --> 02:35:57.990 and tell my employer and get me fired and blah, blah, blah, all this fucking bullshit. 02:35:58.670 --> 02:36:00.590 The thing is where I work. 02:36:01.530 --> 02:36:02.690 I'm a garbage man. 02:36:04.470 --> 02:36:07.350 Anyone that's dealt with garbage companies, they don't give a fuck. 02:36:07.630 --> 02:36:08.410 They don't. 02:36:08.410 --> 02:36:10.610 So I never worried about that shit. 02:36:10.750 --> 02:36:12.130 Go ahead and tell my employers. 02:36:12.390 --> 02:36:13.890 They'll laugh at you, motherfucker. 02:36:14.790 --> 02:36:18.190 Like this motherfuckers, the best garbage man in our company. 02:36:20.110 --> 02:36:21.410 We don't give a fuck. 02:36:21.410 --> 02:36:22.150 All the shit. 02:36:22.470 --> 02:36:24.930 All the F bombs he drops his motherfucker. 02:36:25.150 --> 02:36:26.710 We tell him to go do this. 02:36:26.810 --> 02:36:28.430 He goes and does that. 02:36:29.410 --> 02:36:29.850 Right. 02:36:29.990 --> 02:36:31.210 And the thing is like a worker. 02:36:31.730 --> 02:36:32.790 They wouldn't give a fuck. 02:36:33.330 --> 02:36:33.490 Yeah. 02:36:33.690 --> 02:36:38.170 And it has no bearing on your work or how you deal with your co-workers or your bosses 02:36:38.170 --> 02:36:41.190 or anybody else that you happen to be interacting with. 02:36:41.430 --> 02:36:45.070 So it's obviously a silly to be able to be canceled. 02:36:45.530 --> 02:36:48.690 But that's what you try to play. 02:36:49.230 --> 02:36:49.950 You know what I'm saying? 02:36:49.950 --> 02:36:52.010 And he was getting flustered. 02:36:52.590 --> 02:36:57.730 And so then he chose the next avenue, which was to cry to YouTube. 02:36:58.910 --> 02:37:03.190 And that worked, unfortunately, got me permanently banned. 02:37:03.950 --> 02:37:04.330 I don't know. 02:37:04.770 --> 02:37:09.350 You know, recently a lot of people that lost their channels got their channels back. 02:37:11.150 --> 02:37:13.130 I was alerted about that. 02:37:13.290 --> 02:37:14.930 I'm like, oh, I'll apply. 02:37:15.110 --> 02:37:16.550 Maybe I'll get my channel back. 02:37:17.150 --> 02:37:21.150 And I got a fucking notice from YouTube saying like, 02:37:21.690 --> 02:37:23.830 yeah, your channel is fucking permabanned. 02:37:24.410 --> 02:37:25.350 You have no chance. 02:37:25.850 --> 02:37:27.150 Don't don't ever apply again. 02:37:27.330 --> 02:37:27.890 You're fucked. 02:37:28.390 --> 02:37:32.610 You can apply to possibly make a new one. 02:37:32.770 --> 02:37:33.650 That's what they offered me. 02:37:34.470 --> 02:37:35.990 Possibly making me a new one. 02:37:36.750 --> 02:37:39.230 I'm only saying that because some people follow me on YouTube. 02:37:39.950 --> 02:37:41.510 If you only follow me on YouTube. 02:37:43.590 --> 02:37:45.150 You're missing out on a lot of shit. 02:37:45.790 --> 02:37:47.630 But on that channel, yeah. 02:37:47.790 --> 02:37:50.930 The channel that I have on YouTube is like my fourth fucking channel that I've made. 02:37:51.330 --> 02:37:53.930 And I got a thousand fucking subscribers on YouTube, 02:37:54.130 --> 02:37:57.150 even though that's my fourth channel, which is not easy to do. 02:37:57.450 --> 02:38:00.970 I mean, in like our unknown channel, man, we be grinding 02:38:00.970 --> 02:38:03.490 and we never get any traction. 02:38:03.810 --> 02:38:04.550 Never, never, never. 02:38:04.930 --> 02:38:06.030 So I don't know how I get it. 02:38:06.050 --> 02:38:07.590 A thousand is that. 02:38:07.770 --> 02:38:09.250 I don't even post shit. 02:38:09.330 --> 02:38:14.070 I just post clips and we got like over a thousand at this point. 02:38:16.810 --> 02:38:21.850 That what that does as a creator that tells me like, Goddamn, people love my shit. 02:38:23.910 --> 02:38:26.310 And that's why I do this fucking shit. 02:38:26.590 --> 02:38:30.750 This is why I do the show because y'all motherfuckers love this. 02:38:31.790 --> 02:38:36.830 I know some people bitch about my excessive use of f bombs, but fuck you. 02:38:37.150 --> 02:38:38.010 This is my show. 02:38:38.590 --> 02:38:40.890 I'm going to do shit the way I motherfucking do. 02:38:40.890 --> 02:38:50.170 And so, um, yeah, I've been brought down to ashes, canceled from YouTube. 02:38:50.350 --> 02:38:53.610 And we still fucking pop up, pop up, pop up. 02:38:53.610 --> 02:38:57.650 That tells me that whatever I'm doing is working. 02:38:58.150 --> 02:38:58.950 People like resonates. 02:38:59.450 --> 02:39:01.150 Yeah, it resonates with people. 02:39:01.370 --> 02:39:01.410 Yeah. 02:39:01.450 --> 02:39:02.410 And that's why I do it. 02:39:02.490 --> 02:39:04.230 I don't do it for no other reason. 02:39:04.510 --> 02:39:05.370 I do it for that. 02:39:05.750 --> 02:39:07.990 I'm not going to bullshit you. 02:39:08.550 --> 02:39:11.250 I do it for the fucking five-star Spotify reviews. 02:39:11.550 --> 02:39:12.950 I do do it for that. 02:39:13.050 --> 02:39:15.310 I'm not going to bullshit you who I'm going to be. 02:39:15.770 --> 02:39:18.850 I'm going to play humble and I'm going to be like, oh, you know, 02:39:18.870 --> 02:39:21.830 if you can spare a five-star, oh, fuck that shit. 02:39:21.950 --> 02:39:24.090 I do it for the motherfucking five-star reviews. 02:39:25.050 --> 02:39:29.910 Well, and I think that that that is one of the things that no matter what you say, 02:39:30.010 --> 02:39:36.650 ultimately, people like being recognized for their effort, for their consistency, 02:39:37.210 --> 02:39:42.130 for the amount of time and energy that they put into a project that they care about. 02:39:43.070 --> 02:39:44.050 They like that. 02:39:44.390 --> 02:39:51.830 If I wasn't like, if somebody does give me positive feedback, I really appreciate that. 02:39:52.010 --> 02:39:57.190 And I try really hard, you know, all the things. 02:39:57.310 --> 02:40:00.490 And it's just like so many other things that in order to be, 02:40:00.770 --> 02:40:03.510 and I'm not saying I'm the best at this or anything, not even close, 02:40:03.610 --> 02:40:05.670 but I'm saying that the people that are good, 02:40:05.670 --> 02:40:08.810 they do have a handful of commonalities. 02:40:09.550 --> 02:40:15.430 And they make it look easier than it may actually be to be good. 02:40:16.370 --> 02:40:21.490 So you're not, when you're doing a live show, you are not reading from a teleprompter. 02:40:21.750 --> 02:40:26.010 This means that you are coming up with organic conversation. 02:40:26.390 --> 02:40:30.930 You're trying to remember details from the subject that you're talking about 02:40:30.930 --> 02:40:35.270 and have a conversation with another person while people are watching you live, 02:40:35.270 --> 02:40:38.530 while you're dealing with tech issues, all these kinds of things. 02:40:38.770 --> 02:40:42.730 And you want to be, and the people who are the best at this, 02:40:42.790 --> 02:40:45.510 like they do have a good, you know, they have Riz. 02:40:45.650 --> 02:40:46.690 They have a stage presence. 02:40:46.850 --> 02:40:51.750 They have something about them that presents the information in a good way. 02:40:52.070 --> 02:40:57.810 They have, they're well spoken, like in their personality shines through all of these different 02:40:57.810 --> 02:40:58.030 things. 02:40:58.030 --> 02:41:03.030 So it's really a fine balance to be able to be good at this and do what you're doing 02:41:03.030 --> 02:41:08.130 and to grow your audience and to have so many topics that you're talking about 02:41:08.130 --> 02:41:12.230 and so many wide-ranging topics, guests covering, 02:41:12.470 --> 02:41:15.750 like we talked about this a little bit after the fact last time, 02:41:16.130 --> 02:41:17.730 covering stoicism, for example. 02:41:17.910 --> 02:41:26.270 And these are actually topics that come up in other self-help or programs that help you do better. 02:41:26.550 --> 02:41:30.990 So in autonomy, when I took that, stoicism was one of the first things that we talk about. 02:41:31.710 --> 02:41:38.370 So these important things to help people move forward, to lose baggage that may be holding you 02:41:38.370 --> 02:41:44.430 back, things to help you change your mindset that is going to make you more successful. 02:41:44.730 --> 02:41:46.390 Hello, LT Oracle of Truth. 02:41:46.710 --> 02:41:47.470 It's good to see you. 02:41:48.910 --> 02:41:52.930 Yeah, I completely vibe with what you just said. 02:41:55.010 --> 02:42:00.990 Um, I think I told you that, like earlier on, I had a big motherfucking name is my boy, 02:42:01.090 --> 02:42:04.170 Brian Harvey, who made me an intro jam. 02:42:06.190 --> 02:42:11.710 He's, he told me, I mean, Brian Harvey, I've mentioned him a bunch of times. 02:42:11.890 --> 02:42:16.050 I did a couple of podcasts with him, some of which survived and they're on Spotify, 02:42:16.350 --> 02:42:17.450 some of which did not. 02:42:18.270 --> 02:42:21.190 When I got deleted off YouTube, they were gone forever. 02:42:21.190 --> 02:42:25.750 I did one 11 and a half live stream with Brian Harvey. 02:42:26.050 --> 02:42:30.830 I did two eight and a half hour live streams with Brian Harvey. 02:42:31.430 --> 02:42:35.450 Brian Harvey, for those that don't know who the fuck Brian Harvey is. 02:42:35.810 --> 02:42:39.590 He was the equivalent to like a Justin Timberlake in the UK. 02:42:40.530 --> 02:42:44.990 Like he was in a boy band in the nineties sold 22 million CDs. 02:42:47.430 --> 02:42:52.870 And when I was blowing up on YouTube, like the UK listeners were living in a live chat, 02:42:53.170 --> 02:42:55.610 dude, he listens to you. 02:42:55.750 --> 02:42:59.150 I'm like, Oh, who the fuck is Brian Harvey? 02:42:59.970 --> 02:43:01.390 I don't know who the fuck brought. 02:43:01.610 --> 02:43:02.450 I don't give a fuck. 02:43:03.250 --> 02:43:04.510 And then I did research. 02:43:04.950 --> 02:43:05.630 Oh, shit. 02:43:05.830 --> 02:43:06.130 Okay. 02:43:06.870 --> 02:43:09.190 I never in real time. 02:43:09.350 --> 02:43:10.710 I never vibed his music. 02:43:10.870 --> 02:43:12.090 I didn't know who the fuck he was. 02:43:12.650 --> 02:43:14.070 And then we became friends. 02:43:15.270 --> 02:43:18.070 This logo right here is what is true TV. 02:43:18.230 --> 02:43:20.850 Sometimes people will every now and then say, 02:43:21.630 --> 02:43:23.670 that's Brian Harvey's fucking logo. 02:43:24.350 --> 02:43:27.750 Motherfucking Brian Harvey made this fucking logo for me. 02:43:27.910 --> 02:43:28.990 You stupid son of a bitch. 02:43:29.930 --> 02:43:31.630 That's why I'm rocking it. 02:43:32.390 --> 02:43:36.250 Brian Harvey designed and made this for me. 02:43:36.630 --> 02:43:41.750 That is the most ultimate compliment anyone could get as a creator. 02:43:41.750 --> 02:43:47.930 But I've had people like you stole that fucking design and logo from Brian. 02:43:48.190 --> 02:43:50.110 Bitch, he made it for me. 02:43:50.190 --> 02:43:51.150 You stupid motherfucker. 02:43:51.750 --> 02:43:54.670 And that's what people don't understand now. 02:43:56.350 --> 02:43:57.130 Now they do. 02:43:57.370 --> 02:43:58.530 You're providing us some background. 02:43:59.090 --> 02:43:59.470 Now they know. 02:43:59.750 --> 02:44:02.970 They can't say they don't know this red, white and the font. 02:44:03.490 --> 02:44:04.470 What is true TV? 02:44:05.270 --> 02:44:07.450 Brian Harvey designed it for me. 02:44:08.030 --> 02:44:09.530 He designed it for me. 02:44:10.270 --> 02:44:11.950 I did this last weekend. 02:44:13.390 --> 02:44:19.810 And if you don't mind, Ashley, I'm going to play Brian Harvey's little intro. 02:44:20.370 --> 02:44:21.430 I take pride in this. 02:44:22.030 --> 02:44:25.310 Here's a guy that built that hit the Billboard charts. 02:44:27.730 --> 02:44:31.130 And Carl, I'll get you in after I do this. 02:44:32.750 --> 02:44:36.050 Brian Harvey made this fucking theme song for me. 02:44:36.930 --> 02:44:45.390 How many fucking people can say a Billboard chart top in artists made them an intro? 02:44:45.910 --> 02:44:46.550 So let me play this. 02:44:46.650 --> 02:44:47.590 It's 35 seconds long. 02:44:47.730 --> 02:44:48.070 One second. 02:45:22.800 --> 02:45:27.100 Ah, Brian Harvey made me that fucking intro. 02:45:27.640 --> 02:45:28.400 That was his vibe. 02:45:29.360 --> 02:45:30.840 That was him fucking jamming. 02:45:31.400 --> 02:45:33.780 Brian Harvey made me that motherfucking jam. 02:45:34.220 --> 02:45:36.600 I mean, how many people can say that? 02:45:37.280 --> 02:45:42.020 And that's been one of those trippy ass fucking things of being a creator. 02:45:43.720 --> 02:45:45.060 Doing this content. 02:45:46.240 --> 02:45:50.700 I'm only saying this because goddamn, the last few months we've been blowing up. 02:45:51.520 --> 02:45:53.820 A lot of people have been listening to my shit. 02:45:56.820 --> 02:45:59.040 And I don't want people to get it twisted. 02:45:59.220 --> 02:45:59.540 It's me. 02:46:00.340 --> 02:46:01.840 I know I'm an arrogant motherfucker. 02:46:02.100 --> 02:46:03.720 I know I'm kind of cocky and shit. 02:46:03.960 --> 02:46:04.440 I know that. 02:46:04.840 --> 02:46:05.300 I know that. 02:46:05.300 --> 02:46:06.720 But I'm serious. 02:46:07.040 --> 02:46:09.000 When I say this, I mean this with all my heart. 02:46:09.120 --> 02:46:10.400 And this is one of the complements. 02:46:11.440 --> 02:46:16.520 This is one of the recurring things that I get when people actually do compliment me 02:46:16.520 --> 02:46:23.400 and give me props on the show is that they say, you know what, I may not agree with 02:46:23.400 --> 02:46:25.980 everything you say, but I know you're fucking sincere. 02:46:26.220 --> 02:46:27.900 I know you ain't bullshit. 02:46:28.260 --> 02:46:30.060 And I know you're speaking from your heart. 02:46:30.900 --> 02:46:35.160 And I take that as the biggest compliment because I don't expect anyone to agree 02:46:35.160 --> 02:46:36.860 with anything I fucking say. 02:46:37.360 --> 02:46:42.980 But at the very least, I want you to think I'm not or realize that I'm not bullshitting you. 02:46:43.200 --> 02:46:44.160 You know what I'm saying? 02:46:44.460 --> 02:46:48.340 I may be wrong in what I'm saying and you may think I'm wrong. 02:46:48.940 --> 02:46:52.060 Maybe you are correct and I'm fucking dead as wrong. 02:46:52.800 --> 02:46:55.860 But at least I'm telling you this from the heart. 02:46:56.240 --> 02:47:00.800 And this is part of the reason why I will often put the Streamyard link. 02:47:01.220 --> 02:47:03.800 If you disagree with me, if you think I'm full of shit. 02:47:04.440 --> 02:47:05.900 Hit the Streamyard link. 02:47:06.400 --> 02:47:07.900 Let's discuss it. 02:47:08.340 --> 02:47:13.180 And one of these motherfuckers that has agreed to hit the Streamyard link is Mr. Carl. 02:47:15.520 --> 02:47:16.240 Carl. 02:47:16.880 --> 02:47:17.300 Hey, Carl. 02:47:19.940 --> 02:47:22.000 He probably went to sleep. 02:47:23.160 --> 02:47:24.700 Carl's name is Carl. 02:47:25.340 --> 02:47:26.500 Ashley is a goddess. 02:47:28.200 --> 02:47:30.300 It is very nice compliment. 02:47:30.720 --> 02:47:31.180 Thank you. 02:47:33.040 --> 02:47:34.300 That's fucking Carl. 02:47:34.540 --> 02:47:36.840 He's probably taking a shit or something. 02:47:37.360 --> 02:47:38.940 I'm sure he'll make up some excuse. 02:47:39.240 --> 02:47:42.500 But let's just say the official narrative is he's taking a shit. 02:47:43.360 --> 02:47:47.700 So when he comes back, oh, no, I had to take my dog out to take pee. 02:47:48.580 --> 02:47:49.060 Bullshit. 02:47:49.200 --> 02:47:49.740 You're taking a shit. 02:47:49.960 --> 02:47:50.660 You fucking liar. 02:47:51.200 --> 02:47:51.680 Anyways. 02:47:53.020 --> 02:47:57.280 So Carl is not listening or maybe he is listening. 02:47:57.420 --> 02:47:59.860 He's going to come in at full force at some point. 02:47:59.860 --> 02:48:02.940 He's going to refute some of these claims that you're making. 02:48:04.540 --> 02:48:05.140 Good. 02:48:05.400 --> 02:48:06.620 I bring it. 02:48:07.460 --> 02:48:07.700 Bring it. 02:48:08.340 --> 02:48:10.300 But I don't know. 02:48:10.480 --> 02:48:17.400 The ramble that I was trying to make is when people tell me that they enjoy the show. 02:48:21.040 --> 02:48:22.540 I enjoy it. 02:48:23.120 --> 02:48:23.760 It's great. 02:48:24.820 --> 02:48:28.820 It's it's pleasing to my ears because that's why I do it. 02:48:29.360 --> 02:48:31.960 I don't do it for no motherfucking monetary gains. 02:48:32.900 --> 02:48:33.600 Oh, yeah. 02:48:33.820 --> 02:48:38.180 And you're I mean in the alternative space unless you are one of these propped up people, 02:48:39.220 --> 02:48:43.920 it's a it's a tough go to try to build up enough to be able to make money from this. 02:48:44.380 --> 02:48:46.800 And Carl said he was talking. 02:48:47.900 --> 02:48:49.980 Yeah, Carl said he was not talking. 02:48:50.340 --> 02:48:51.420 Carl, can you hear me now? 02:48:52.040 --> 02:48:53.020 Now we can. 02:48:53.440 --> 02:48:54.240 You are cool, man. 02:48:55.240 --> 02:48:56.040 Hi, Weezy. 02:48:56.340 --> 02:48:56.700 Hi, Ashley. 02:48:57.440 --> 02:48:57.860 Hi, life. 02:48:58.100 --> 02:48:58.220 Carl. 02:48:59.400 --> 02:49:00.120 What's up, Carl? 02:49:00.140 --> 02:49:01.120 I was talking away. 02:49:01.540 --> 02:49:05.240 I was talking away and I realized you couldn't hear me. 02:49:05.460 --> 02:49:06.240 Anyway, nice to see you. 02:49:06.240 --> 02:49:10.180 So he was he was refuting your claims in real time, Weezy. 02:49:10.800 --> 02:49:13.560 Go ahead and refute me, you bitch-ass-hole. 02:49:14.140 --> 02:49:14.700 I'm just kidding. 02:49:15.100 --> 02:49:16.440 I say that in a loving way. 02:49:17.840 --> 02:49:18.460 Yeah, man. 02:49:18.660 --> 02:49:19.200 What's up, Carl? 02:49:19.420 --> 02:49:21.180 Thank you for hitting that stream yard. 02:49:21.240 --> 02:49:21.820 Yeah, of course. 02:49:21.820 --> 02:49:24.640 And the stream yard is in the rumble chat. 02:49:24.640 --> 02:49:29.860 Anyone, if anyone wants to call in Secret Squirrels in the live chat, shout out to Secret Squirrel. 02:49:30.240 --> 02:49:36.540 She's another one that has been following me from day one when I started blowing up 02:49:38.060 --> 02:49:39.600 before anyone knew. 02:49:40.280 --> 02:49:42.500 People don't know who the fuck I am to this day. 02:49:42.540 --> 02:49:47.860 But I'm just saying even lesser Secret Squirrel follow me when I had like 02:49:47.860 --> 02:49:52.680 fucking 200 subscribers on YouTube and then we blew the fuck up. 02:49:52.680 --> 02:49:57.940 So shout out to Secret Squirrel, George O'Brien, George 2024 in the live chat. 02:49:58.260 --> 02:49:59.280 He's another one. 02:49:59.660 --> 02:50:02.320 And of course, Missy, everyone knows that. 02:50:02.480 --> 02:50:07.440 But yeah, those are people that that can attest to those days on YouTube when 02:50:08.040 --> 02:50:11.460 fucking blew up out of control and started from scratch. 02:50:12.360 --> 02:50:16.040 And here we are this the last few months we've been blowing up again. 02:50:16.380 --> 02:50:16.940 What the fuck? 02:50:17.500 --> 02:50:19.580 And I am humbled by that. 02:50:20.280 --> 02:50:23.660 Um, it really does mean the world to me. 02:50:26.500 --> 02:50:28.940 Yeah, that's how long I've been listening to your performance. 02:50:29.340 --> 02:50:31.720 I brought a few people along with me as well along the way. 02:50:32.000 --> 02:50:35.180 And so my feed has completely changed this year. 02:50:35.400 --> 02:50:38.920 So including Ashley, you know, I love listening to Ashley. 02:50:39.240 --> 02:50:41.460 Just amazing, amazing brain. 02:50:42.700 --> 02:50:43.760 Thank you so much. 02:50:43.940 --> 02:50:43.960 Yeah. 02:50:43.960 --> 02:50:51.100 So I first started seeing you in the nights of the storm chat was I think I may have seen 02:50:51.100 --> 02:50:53.660 you here first, but I thought it was the nights of the storm. 02:50:53.760 --> 02:50:55.480 But sometimes it's it's hard to keep track. 02:50:55.980 --> 02:50:56.380 Keep pro. 02:50:56.760 --> 02:50:59.220 Yeah, I started following Jason maybe like two months ago. 02:50:59.500 --> 02:51:03.080 So I've only been watching your stream for six to eight weeks. 02:51:03.540 --> 02:51:04.780 But loving it. 02:51:05.820 --> 02:51:06.460 Thank you. 02:51:06.540 --> 02:51:06.700 Really. 02:51:06.980 --> 02:51:09.660 You've really said, yeah, all of you have saved me this year. 02:51:09.880 --> 02:51:12.760 Back in March, April, I was gasping for air. 02:51:13.960 --> 02:51:17.920 But since then, the last six, seven months, I've completely changed my feed. 02:51:19.140 --> 02:51:21.840 My top six streamers now are all new. 02:51:22.520 --> 02:51:28.120 Seven Seas, Weezy, DeBoomersand, Nights of the Storm, and on and on. 02:51:28.860 --> 02:51:33.040 But so I've got that shitty situation right now where my two favorite streamers 02:51:33.040 --> 02:51:34.480 are both live at the same time. 02:51:35.160 --> 02:51:37.880 So I thought I'd give a quick call in just to say hello. 02:51:37.880 --> 02:51:44.080 And because I may dip out in a little bit and go over to Boomers 02:51:44.080 --> 02:51:48.020 and, you know, catch up on the replay tomorrow. 02:51:48.340 --> 02:51:49.740 I just don't know what to do for the best. 02:51:49.860 --> 02:51:52.040 I genuinely love Weezy and Boomer. 02:51:54.300 --> 02:51:57.500 So you got to do what you got to do. 02:51:57.760 --> 02:51:59.530 So here's what I would do. 02:52:00.780 --> 02:52:01.560 Go for it. 02:52:01.920 --> 02:52:06.400 But put a picture of Boomer, put a picture of me and see what gets you harder. 02:52:09.900 --> 02:52:11.000 That's bad advice. 02:52:16.180 --> 02:52:18.040 So let me ask you this before. 02:52:18.320 --> 02:52:23.860 And I know that is hard when you because watching your favorite show live hits different, 02:52:24.060 --> 02:52:27.380 you know, when you're able to participate with like your friends in the chat, 02:52:27.480 --> 02:52:34.280 it really does hit different and it changes the experience a lot versus just listening to, 02:52:34.820 --> 02:52:37.540 you know, the restream or to the podcast version of the show. 02:52:37.880 --> 02:52:40.800 But before you do go or if you have to go, 02:52:40.920 --> 02:52:44.700 can you tell us a little bit about how your feed has changed or like what you, 02:52:45.600 --> 02:52:51.020 what changed about what you were listening to or like, how did that occur? 02:52:51.200 --> 02:52:55.480 Did you just have new accounts being suggested to you or like your network is changing or what? 02:52:56.480 --> 02:52:59.080 Yeah, it's worth maybe going back to the beginning then. 02:52:59.220 --> 02:53:04.200 So I had my red pill awakening nearly 20 years ago, 2006. 02:53:05.020 --> 02:53:07.660 And that was David Ike, basically. 02:53:08.200 --> 02:53:15.300 And so I learned of the 9-11 truths and then esotericism and, you know, 02:53:16.880 --> 02:53:19.000 the secret societies and so forth. 02:53:19.880 --> 02:53:23.360 I kind of went back into normie life for a few years. 02:53:23.640 --> 02:53:28.760 But then sort of 10 years ago, I rediscovered, you know, 02:53:29.800 --> 02:53:34.320 the desire to, you know, seek out truth and knowledge. 02:53:35.720 --> 02:53:40.700 And then obviously the code that so since when COVID started, 02:53:42.060 --> 02:53:49.820 when all that bullshit started in early 2020, since then I must have put in 25,000 hours of 02:53:49.820 --> 02:53:55.060 education since then sort of an average of 12 to 13 hours a day for six years, you know, 02:53:55.060 --> 02:53:56.220 it adds up. 02:53:57.880 --> 02:54:06.580 And so I'm familiar with the full gamut of alternative media, obviously, 02:54:07.100 --> 02:54:11.380 and I've pretty much experienced everyone that's around. 02:54:13.320 --> 02:54:17.860 My intuition has developed over the years good enough that I could, 02:54:17.900 --> 02:54:19.380 I can search people out quickly. 02:54:19.680 --> 02:54:23.520 So yes, I did have a quick experience of most people, 02:54:23.520 --> 02:54:27.940 but most people I could reject immediately, you know, within seconds sometimes. 02:54:30.400 --> 02:54:35.240 But those that did become my favorites over the last five years, 02:54:35.640 --> 02:54:38.840 slowly but surely they've shown their true colors, you know. 02:54:39.420 --> 02:54:46.500 So I'm talking about the likes of, say, Max Egan and the like, you know. 02:54:48.460 --> 02:54:54.960 But and so early, so in the last couple of years, one of the people I was watching was Victor Hugo 02:54:54.960 --> 02:55:01.160 Vaca. I did relate to some of the things he was saying, but it's through his comments section 02:55:01.160 --> 02:55:08.000 that people started to put links to others. And so it started really with Seven Seas. 02:55:08.260 --> 02:55:15.640 Seven months ago, someone linked to his work and through his work I came across 02:55:15.640 --> 02:55:25.500 Wheezy four months ago. And also as someone linked to juxtapositions work and through his work, 02:55:25.520 --> 02:55:30.740 I came across Boomer. And through Boomer and Wheezy, I've come across others. 02:55:31.380 --> 02:55:32.520 So like Jason Barker. 02:55:33.840 --> 02:55:39.980 Yeah, man. I was just fucking around with the Boomer shit. I don't want to tell anyone to, 02:55:41.140 --> 02:55:47.220 you know, be beholden to anyone. Like you, you got to enjoy what you likes, you know what I'm 02:55:47.220 --> 02:55:52.660 saying? You're all different. You're all, you're all excellent. There's no with this. That's the 02:55:52.660 --> 02:56:00.520 only way of saying it. So you're all amazing. And, and, and, you know, like that, that means 02:56:00.520 --> 02:56:06.820 a lot. But I also recognize that people have different likes, people have different tastes. 02:56:07.560 --> 02:56:14.480 I said this last week and you probably caught that Carl, but like there's people that 02:56:17.200 --> 02:56:25.140 talk shit because I don't espouse their views or this and that and whatever. I mean, 02:56:27.060 --> 02:56:33.700 everyone's different, man. And maybe this is my liberal woke side coming out at times. 02:56:34.140 --> 02:56:39.320 But I don't care. Like, you know what I mean? We're all human. We all 02:56:40.300 --> 02:56:47.440 have different ways of looking at the world. You know what I mean? Like everything's not black 02:56:47.440 --> 02:56:53.920 and white. There are differences, but you're all really good people. I tell you what, Wheezy, 02:56:54.220 --> 02:56:58.800 you would get on really well with Boomer. You have got slightly different personalities. 02:56:59.220 --> 02:57:02.420 He follows me. I'll probably do a show with him. 02:57:02.800 --> 02:57:05.020 There is a seven seas link between you, you know? 02:57:05.980 --> 02:57:11.520 You would, you would, you would see it because you, you both see all your super cool. 02:57:12.960 --> 02:57:16.560 Seven seas is my little brother, man. I've been saying that over and over again. He's, 02:57:16.560 --> 02:57:21.620 he's my little homie. He has hooked me up with some big fucking names. Boomer is not, 02:57:21.940 --> 02:57:26.760 I mean, he's like, he's like my size. He's nothing big or major. He seems like a cool 02:57:26.760 --> 02:57:33.800 dude. And to be honest with you, I'm not talking shit. It's going to sound like I'm talking shit, 02:57:33.840 --> 02:57:38.880 but I wouldn't know. I would have never even heard of Boomer. It wasn't from my boy seven seas. 02:57:39.880 --> 02:57:44.540 Seven seas is the one like, Hey, talk to this dude. He seems like a cool dude. 02:57:45.100 --> 02:57:49.540 Seven seas is like my little brother, man. Not only has he set me up with like someone 02:57:49.540 --> 02:57:54.140 like Boomer, you know, he has set me up with some big motherfucking names 02:57:54.140 --> 02:57:59.020 that now follow me on Twitter because fucking seven seas name drop me. 02:58:00.180 --> 02:58:07.200 I've been trying to follow these motherfuckers for years and they just viewed me in the background 02:58:07.200 --> 02:58:12.800 like, Oh, who's who the fuck is this guy? Fuck him. Fuck him. Fuck him. And then seven seas drops me, 02:58:13.280 --> 02:58:19.880 name drops me. Now they want to follow me. And now I'm at the point where I don't give a fuck 02:58:20.580 --> 02:58:25.420 bitch. Just because seven seas drops me. Now you want to follow me? Fuck you. 02:58:26.640 --> 02:58:30.840 That could be a detriment to my personality, but that's the way I look at shit. 02:58:31.400 --> 02:58:37.180 Like motherfucker, I try to follow in you and you, you, you try to big league me. Like you were too 02:58:37.180 --> 02:58:42.980 good for me, but only because seven seas name drops me now. Now I'm okay to talk to. 02:58:42.980 --> 02:58:46.080 I fuck that shit. I don't play that motherfucking game. 02:58:48.180 --> 02:58:49.680 My boy seven seas. 02:58:51.820 --> 02:58:59.040 We view shit a little different, but I got respect for him because he'll name drop me to help me. 02:58:59.620 --> 02:59:04.100 But sometimes I don't accept that help because that's just me. I'm like, fuck that shit. 02:59:04.480 --> 02:59:09.980 I tried already. Fuck that. I don't, I'm willing to forgive, but I don't forget, man. 02:59:09.980 --> 02:59:14.280 And maybe I know that's a flaw of me, but that's the way I rose. 02:59:15.240 --> 02:59:20.320 Well, both you and Boomer have amazing guests. And if you dipped into Boomer's stuff, 02:59:20.620 --> 02:59:24.860 it would open a few doors for you. So for example, at this exact moment, 02:59:25.040 --> 02:59:30.220 Boomer's talking with someone called Dean from the channel called sound for sound. 02:59:30.920 --> 02:59:34.760 And he, he's done some phenomenal work in the last seven months, 02:59:35.500 --> 02:59:43.500 digging into chat, the child trafficking scene. And honestly, I look, looking into his stuff, 02:59:43.600 --> 02:59:49.520 your eyes would just open up basically through his work. You can, you can see very quickly 02:59:50.020 --> 02:59:55.720 who the compromised pedophiles and child traffickers are amongst this alternative media 02:59:55.720 --> 03:00:01.080 scene just through the way they present their, their work and, and, and their thumbnails 03:00:01.080 --> 03:00:07.520 and artwork. It's quite, it, it's quite sick. 03:00:07.860 --> 03:00:13.800 Bro, there, there ain't no, like, I guess one of the biggest talking, 03:00:15.620 --> 03:00:21.080 and I'm talking from my own heart, my own soul. 03:00:23.000 --> 03:00:29.220 I, I know I've been growing the last few months. I realize that 03:00:31.080 --> 03:00:37.820 it's wild to me because I still view myself as a little ass creator. And 03:00:40.020 --> 03:00:44.920 I think really the only one that really grasps is, is Missy. Like, I'm like, 03:00:44.920 --> 03:00:49.420 I told her everything. And I'm like, God damn, this happened today. This happened today. 03:00:49.620 --> 03:00:55.500 And I get surprised with some of the shit that's happening recently. 03:00:59.020 --> 03:01:05.540 And how do I formulate this in the best way to say this? It's weird because 03:01:07.200 --> 03:01:15.740 I guess deep back in my mind, I still am a nobody, no name, no one knows who the fuck I am. 03:01:18.160 --> 03:01:20.700 And I've had to come to the realization that 03:01:21.740 --> 03:01:24.840 even a lot of these big names are knowing who the fuck I am now. 03:01:26.320 --> 03:01:29.480 And it's weird. It's not me being arrogant. 03:01:32.500 --> 03:01:37.420 Even though I make him across, like, it's weird for me. I have a hard time digesting that. 03:01:38.100 --> 03:01:43.420 But listen, you don't want to be associated with any of the big names because that's 03:01:43.420 --> 03:01:46.000 what I'm trying to get at, bro. This is what I'm trying to get. 03:01:46.120 --> 03:01:48.340 So the point of what I was going to say was 03:01:50.220 --> 03:01:58.440 I know that's exactly my point right there, Carl, is that I am getting my name is getting 03:01:59.200 --> 03:02:03.880 put out there. I didn't expect it. I didn't call for it, but it's happening. 03:02:06.420 --> 03:02:11.280 And here I'm talking to this motherfucking Clint Russell, who's got 03:02:11.280 --> 03:02:18.420 that shit tons of followers on Twitter who gets mentioned by Dave Smith, Candice Owens. 03:02:20.820 --> 03:02:25.500 And Clint Russell is like, I got wheezy over here. Side eye in me. 03:02:26.200 --> 03:02:28.140 Yeah, motherfucker, I don't trust you. 03:02:29.560 --> 03:02:36.100 So now I'm on this weird. I guess I'm just trying to pour out my thoughts in a digestible 03:02:36.100 --> 03:02:41.960 way, Carl. I'm in this weird fucking zone right now where motherfuckers are knowing who the fuck I am now. 03:02:43.120 --> 03:02:50.640 They're hearing about me. But in my mind, I'm still a nobody. I'm not trying to sound humble. 03:02:51.620 --> 03:02:56.980 I'm not trying to sound anything other than that's how I feel. I'm just a fucking garbage man. 03:02:57.160 --> 03:03:01.380 I say that all the time, but I mean that it's not a fucking slogan. It's not a 03:03:02.620 --> 03:03:07.180 marketing adventure. I'm just a fucking garbage, man. I just pick a fucking garbage 03:03:07.640 --> 03:03:11.240 dumpsters and I fucking dump them and I return them and blah, blah, blah. 03:03:12.020 --> 03:03:17.260 That's all I am. And so now that I'm on these platforms, where the motherfucker, 03:03:17.520 --> 03:03:19.680 this motherfucker knows me, this motherfucker knows me. 03:03:20.360 --> 03:03:23.840 I'm not going to say any names right now. I'm not going to name drop any names, but 03:03:23.840 --> 03:03:28.380 this guy that has a big motherfucking following me messaged me on Twitter 03:03:29.320 --> 03:03:36.480 and saying, hey, your friends with this person, see if they could have me on their show. 03:03:38.940 --> 03:03:41.400 And I got that message. I'm like, what the fuck? 03:03:41.780 --> 03:03:49.160 What the fuck? I'm just the garbage man. You got millions of motherfucking followers. 03:03:49.500 --> 03:03:50.960 Why are you reaching out to me? 03:03:53.360 --> 03:03:59.720 And I guess the point of this rent are always like I'm in agreement with you. 03:04:01.280 --> 03:04:08.900 When I personally see someone that is well known as is getting mentioned by these names, 03:04:09.280 --> 03:04:14.660 household names and shit, my mind, the way it works is I don't fucking trust you. 03:04:17.180 --> 03:04:22.680 And I don't want to fall into that trap either. I don't want to be associated with that fucking crowd. 03:04:23.860 --> 03:04:28.460 That's part of the reason why I'm union. I want to like there's motherfuckers here. I don't trust. 03:04:29.440 --> 03:04:35.920 I wasn't trying to be funny. I wasn't trying to be famous or, you know, get a get a fucking 03:04:39.040 --> 03:04:46.100 a spicy clip or any of that shit. I wasn't trying to do it. That's how I genuinely feel about shit. 03:04:47.980 --> 03:04:52.580 The bigger you get, the more compromised the possibilities are. 03:04:52.900 --> 03:04:58.760 I've got two things to say. So the number of the number of people you can trust who have 03:04:58.760 --> 03:05:03.660 followers more than 50,000 on any of the platforms, you can count on one hand. 03:05:04.300 --> 03:05:12.820 They're few and far between. So on rumble, there's one channel called non-vaxxer420 who deals with the 03:05:12.820 --> 03:05:21.840 biodigital convergence and the synergy channel. He's got around 50,000 followers. The other 03:05:21.840 --> 03:05:27.480 thing to say is that all of these video platforms are the enemy. The internet is the enemy. 03:05:28.020 --> 03:05:32.120 We play in their playground. They own all of the playground equipment. 03:05:32.120 --> 03:05:36.260 We have no choice but to play on their turf. 03:05:38.280 --> 03:05:47.200 None of the best streamers are pushed forward onto the main screens and you're all shadow banned. 03:05:48.060 --> 03:05:53.180 All of the people that appear on the main popular screens, they're all compromised. 03:05:53.800 --> 03:05:58.660 They're all part of, they're all controlled opposition and a lot of them are actively 03:05:58.660 --> 03:06:02.820 involved in child trafficking. There's just no other way of saying that. 03:06:03.200 --> 03:06:11.040 You don't want to be associated with them. Now, if this world was fair and a level playing field, 03:06:11.040 --> 03:06:17.520 then you would be featured a lot more. You would be put out there to a wider audience. 03:06:18.660 --> 03:06:24.900 All we can do as your little community is just share, repost, recommend, like, you know, 03:06:24.900 --> 03:06:32.960 big you up and in time it will come. But you're only going to get so far and so successful in this 03:06:35.080 --> 03:06:42.800 restricted, compromised, controlled environment. You just be you mate and it will come. 03:06:44.160 --> 03:06:49.120 As a collective, like, you know, the time will come when we need to fight. 03:06:51.160 --> 03:06:56.360 One of the most important things is that we actually convert these digital friendships into 03:06:56.360 --> 03:07:01.200 real world friendships. It's something that I've actively tried to do for the last six years, 03:07:01.480 --> 03:07:10.540 but people struggle to extend the trust. It's one of the things I try and promote and really 03:07:10.540 --> 03:07:16.860 hope for is that people just try and break down those barriers a little bit and just 03:07:16.860 --> 03:07:24.480 just take the chance. Reach out to people. I've made a nice friendship from reaching out. 03:07:24.720 --> 03:07:29.420 I've reached out to one or two others, and I know it will take time. I'm willing to travel 03:07:29.420 --> 03:07:35.460 anywhere in the world to meet like-minded people. We've got to build communities 03:07:39.160 --> 03:07:43.960 because we need to do so. A, to survive and B, to continue our species. 03:07:45.640 --> 03:07:48.820 I'm going to at some point go to Manchester 03:07:51.020 --> 03:07:53.540 and you know what I'm saying, hang out. 03:07:57.120 --> 03:08:05.120 Yeah, it's a shit show that we're what we're going through this point in time with 03:08:06.000 --> 03:08:12.900 bad actors or people that are probably not necessarily bad actors, but they're after dollars. 03:08:12.900 --> 03:08:16.640 You know what I'm saying? They're the biggest motivation. 03:08:18.320 --> 03:08:24.760 But at the same time, I also almost after dollars is like, there's no money in this. 03:08:26.360 --> 03:08:33.060 In a way, I can understand that as well. Maybe that is to the chagrin with some people listening, 03:08:33.360 --> 03:08:38.240 but I try to look at everything. I try to look at all sides these days. 03:08:41.200 --> 03:08:43.100 I listened to the show. 03:08:44.980 --> 03:08:50.200 Maybe some people listening will know exactly what I'm talking about, but I'm going to try to be 03:08:53.260 --> 03:09:00.260 as secretive with the title. But there was a show that was brought to my attention by my lovely 03:09:00.260 --> 03:09:06.960 Missy team about John Wilkes Booth's secret life or some shit like that. 03:09:07.100 --> 03:09:13.460 And some of these shows, which are friends of mine's. I've had them on. They've had me on. 03:09:15.700 --> 03:09:21.980 Several of these people played this podcast that they did with this guy. 03:09:23.340 --> 03:09:27.500 This old guy that was talking about John Wilkes Booth and his secret life. 03:09:30.040 --> 03:09:35.520 Obviously, I'm a Lincoln aficionado. I'm a Lincoln researcher or whatever. 03:09:36.220 --> 03:09:40.600 But all right, let's see what this guy has to say. I looked on the YouTube video. 03:09:40.720 --> 03:09:46.440 The YouTube video had like 200 likes, thousands of views. I'm like, damn, people really enjoyed this 03:09:46.440 --> 03:09:55.220 shit. I'm going to give it a listen. 30 minutes in. I'm like, what the fuck 40 minutes in. 03:09:55.220 --> 03:10:02.440 I'm like, what the fuck is going on here one hour in? And I'm like, this dude is full of shit. 03:10:04.060 --> 03:10:06.720 This motherfucker is making shit up. 03:10:08.700 --> 03:10:11.940 He is legitimately pulling shit out of his ass. 03:10:14.620 --> 03:10:22.240 So I messaged one of these people that had him on, invited him on. I go, look, 03:10:22.800 --> 03:10:29.020 this dude you had on as a fraud. I can prove everything he said was bullshit. 03:10:30.080 --> 03:10:41.220 Can't be substantiated by anything. I'll fucking talk some Lincoln on your show. Crickets, crickets, crickets. 03:10:45.020 --> 03:10:52.920 So I let a few days go, I let whatever, then some other person with a large following podcast, 03:10:53.100 --> 03:10:59.640 he puts it on her podcast format. Then I see another person associated with these people 03:11:00.420 --> 03:11:03.960 put the same fucking copy on their podcast format. 03:11:05.700 --> 03:11:10.060 And it upset me for a number of different reasons. 03:11:11.220 --> 03:11:18.220 One of them is I already told them all this dude is saying is bullshit. He's making it up. 03:11:18.340 --> 03:11:23.040 It's not fucking based on any reality and they still went along with it. Why? 03:11:23.240 --> 03:11:27.160 Because it got views. It got listens. It got downloads. 03:11:28.920 --> 03:11:35.600 And that didn't sit well with me on many levels. You're chasing after clicks, 03:11:35.600 --> 03:11:42.800 motherfuckers. You don't care about what fucking is truth. You're after clicks. 03:11:44.720 --> 03:11:49.940 And that really upset me, but it is what it is. People will do what the fuck they want to do. 03:11:50.960 --> 03:11:56.340 Some people will know exactly the fucking show and the motherfucking guess that I'm talking about. 03:11:56.540 --> 03:12:02.400 Some people won't. I'm not going to call them out by names, but yeah, it's a reality of 03:12:04.160 --> 03:12:07.820 this shit. Some people will do shit just for clicks and views. 03:12:10.620 --> 03:12:16.020 And I think that's why some people gravitate to my show because I don't do that. I'm going to speak 03:12:16.020 --> 03:12:23.740 my mind if I get people that listen to the show and criticize me for this, criticize me for that. 03:12:23.860 --> 03:12:30.060 I'm going to call them out. I don't give a fuck. Fuck you. You're going to talk shit. 03:12:30.060 --> 03:12:33.820 Guess what? You do have the freedom of speech to talk shit about me. 03:12:34.460 --> 03:12:38.520 But guess what? Freedom of speech also means I'm going to talk shit right back, motherfucker. 03:12:40.680 --> 03:12:45.000 And that's the difference. I don't do it for clicks and views. I do it because I 03:12:45.000 --> 03:12:56.400 like to do shit the way I like to do shit. End of story. One of the telltale 03:12:56.400 --> 03:13:03.760 I went on a little rant, man. If they've got a flashy studio, high production quality, 03:13:04.120 --> 03:13:08.140 good cameras, they're pretty much always compromised, controlled opposition. 03:13:09.480 --> 03:13:15.080 Like you're set up there. If you got any flashier, like the red flags would be going mate. 03:13:16.120 --> 03:13:21.320 You know what I mean? You just you got to keep it real, like real people with like real setups. 03:13:22.080 --> 03:13:26.300 So anyway, I want to mention what you were talking about the other week. 03:13:26.520 --> 03:13:32.180 You were mentioning your Odyssey channel and the Sean Atwood situation. 03:13:32.780 --> 03:13:35.740 I did. So I took a look into it as soon as you said it. 03:13:35.740 --> 03:13:38.460 Okay, Carl, hold up real quick. Sorry, Carl. 03:13:39.260 --> 03:13:40.940 Hold that thought. Hold that thought. 03:13:42.340 --> 03:13:47.360 I rebbe. I like I rebbe. He's a good dude. But he just made this comment. 03:13:47.940 --> 03:13:51.840 Wheezy. Maybe they just didn't know if the guy was legit or not. 03:13:52.380 --> 03:13:59.760 Rugg, you know what? I rebbe. I love you, but shrug back on you because you must have missed the 03:13:59.760 --> 03:14:08.560 first part of this where I directly messaged the original posters of this motherfucker and told 03:14:08.560 --> 03:14:15.080 him this dude is full of shit. Get me on. I will prove to you that this dude is full of shit. 03:14:16.660 --> 03:14:24.380 They ignored my request. A few days passed by. No, no response, no response, no response. 03:14:24.840 --> 03:14:32.820 And then other people on that show ended up broadcasting it onto their channels. 03:14:34.660 --> 03:14:41.160 So shrug is back on you. I rebbe. I already disclosed this. So you may have popped in a 03:14:41.160 --> 03:14:46.140 late, but the shrug is back on you. All right. Go on, Carl. 03:14:47.140 --> 03:14:51.960 No worries, yeah. So I took a look into your Odyssey channel. I flicked back through your 03:14:51.960 --> 03:14:56.820 history, saw that there was five years worth of shit there to go through. Anyway, I came across 03:14:56.820 --> 03:15:04.760 your five and a half hour video that you were mentioning on Sean Atwood. And I didn't click 03:15:04.760 --> 03:15:09.400 on it because the way I go about, I saw that there was loads of stuff on there. I saw 03:15:09.400 --> 03:15:14.440 that you'd basically been trolling in for six months. What I'll be doing is going right back 03:15:14.440 --> 03:15:19.680 to the very first thing you ever posted about him and work my way chronologically through. 03:15:20.000 --> 03:15:25.540 This is what I did with Seven Seas. When I came across Seven Seas work, I went right back to 03:15:25.540 --> 03:15:31.400 the beginning and it took me six weeks to watch all of his stuff. And that's what I'll be 03:15:31.400 --> 03:15:35.900 doing. And I'll need to put the same effort in just to cover your Sean Atwood stuff. 03:15:35.900 --> 03:15:44.300 That's about 150 hours worth of stuff there. Yeah. I've got 400 or 400 videos on Odyssey. 03:15:45.960 --> 03:15:51.960 If you've been following for a while, you know that my average shows are at least two hours 03:15:51.960 --> 03:16:00.340 and not longer. Exactly. 400 video 400 and video 400 times 200. Do the math. Yeah. 03:16:01.080 --> 03:16:07.560 It's going to take a minute. I might watch the five and a half hour one. 03:16:08.060 --> 03:16:13.120 And then I'll go back to the beginning and then I'll go through it chronologically. 03:16:13.380 --> 03:16:17.680 And I'll end up watching the five and a half hour one a second time and going through it all. 03:16:18.340 --> 03:16:20.080 I'm going to give you the Cliffs Notes, Carl. 03:16:21.580 --> 03:16:24.500 Watch some of the Sean Atwood shit that I did at the very beginning. 03:16:24.500 --> 03:16:31.120 And then listen to the A to Z, A to Z, as you guys say, in the UK. 03:16:31.440 --> 03:16:38.880 Yeah. As the show that we did on Daddygate. Now, remember, did you hear me talk about 03:16:38.880 --> 03:16:43.200 Chancellor? I'm familiar with the Daddygate. I was actually watching Sean Atwoods 03:16:43.780 --> 03:16:48.940 at the time. You know, I was watching his stuff as he was posting it on YouTube. 03:16:48.940 --> 03:16:56.580 He, Chancellor and I exposed that motherfucker. That was a cringe time, wasn't it? Yeah. 03:16:56.820 --> 03:17:01.440 He was helping out that lady and then he took advantage of it, didn't he? 03:17:02.080 --> 03:17:05.840 Yeah, it was all bullshit, man. It's all fake and gay, just like everything else. 03:17:06.260 --> 03:17:08.800 So I'm going to play the fucking. 03:17:12.600 --> 03:17:21.440 So it was one of the most epic live podcasts, live interviews of all fucking time. 03:17:21.580 --> 03:17:27.400 I did it with Sean Atwoods, Cameraman. Anyone in anyone even remotely familiar with Sean Atwood 03:17:28.020 --> 03:17:32.360 will recognize this shit immediately. And 03:17:32.360 --> 03:17:41.540 um, okay, let's play it in all this glory. I made a little cut scene to it, but 03:17:43.960 --> 03:17:50.500 it's episode number 49. If you want to listen to the entire podcast, it's episode number 49. 03:17:50.920 --> 03:17:59.860 At the very end, Sean Cameraman or Sean's cameraman, James Esposito or Esposito in Spanish. 03:18:00.600 --> 03:18:07.780 I don't know if it's Italian or Spanish, but a dude comes into the room and snatches 03:18:07.780 --> 03:18:11.660 this fucking phone out of his hand. You can hear it. Listen to the audio. 03:18:12.520 --> 03:18:21.640 His handler snatches the phone like brava brava. Who are you in the most evil British 03:18:21.640 --> 03:18:31.020 fucking voice imaginable? And that became one of the most epic live streams of all time. I know 03:18:31.020 --> 03:18:36.940 I was a little creator. I know I had a just a small following, but anyone that tuned in live. 03:18:38.240 --> 03:18:43.860 I remember hearing about the shit years later, like, God damn, that was the most epic fucking 03:18:43.860 --> 03:18:52.320 live stream of all. Like that you've ever heard you because if you listen to episode number 49 03:18:52.320 --> 03:18:57.120 from its entirety, it's calm, it's collected. It's just chill. I'm getting kind of bored 03:18:57.120 --> 03:19:02.420 with this motherfucker because he's defending Sean Atwood. But then I started hitting the cameraman 03:19:02.420 --> 03:19:09.920 with some gotcha questions. Like I put him on his ass about Sean Atwood. I'm like, 03:19:09.920 --> 03:19:15.440 okay, Sean Atwood is so good. Why did he take the role of the pedophile? And then the cameraman gets 03:19:15.440 --> 03:19:22.200 all quiet. And he doesn't even know how to answer to that. So I fucking roasted him. It was it 03:19:22.200 --> 03:19:29.940 was a dream podcast because here I have Sean Sean Atwood's cameraman on the fucking hot seat. 03:19:31.280 --> 03:19:36.520 And he can't wriggle his way out of it. So after an hour of this, 03:19:37.980 --> 03:19:44.520 that's when the handler comes in, takes his fucking takes his fucking phone away from 03:19:44.520 --> 03:19:49.220 so let's watch this. All right, I just set the scene up for you. If you guys want to 03:19:49.220 --> 03:19:53.740 episode number 49, and that's the entire interview, but this is a clip of it. 03:19:55.640 --> 03:19:58.240 Yeah. When when Uncle Terrence was there. 03:20:01.480 --> 03:20:07.740 And started mentioning the whole deal about 03:20:07.740 --> 03:20:17.270 who are all the excuses you are about not giving your back. Who the fuck are you? 03:20:17.680 --> 03:20:21.800 Wait, wait a minute. Who the fuck are you? Where are me? Who the fuck are you? 03:20:21.800 --> 03:20:29.020 Motherfuckers? Who the fuck are you? Name yourself or I'm gonna hang up on your bitch ass right now. 03:20:29.380 --> 03:20:34.900 Name yourself right now, bitch. Name yourself right now, bitch. Name yourself right now, bitch. 03:20:34.900 --> 03:20:39.560 Name yourself right now, bitch. You and the other ones that will not fuck you. 03:20:40.500 --> 03:20:44.740 Everybody listen to this. Get the fuck out of here. 03:20:50.020 --> 03:20:52.740 Oh, that was so fucking legendary, bro. 03:20:53.160 --> 03:20:57.200 Okay, we see. I can tell you one thing straight away. Okay. Because I'm British. Okay. 03:20:57.460 --> 03:21:00.640 That was a British black bloke that was talking. Yeah, I know. 03:21:02.660 --> 03:21:07.920 I was so balls deep in the UK shit. Like, so let me tell you this, Carl, 03:21:08.160 --> 03:21:13.220 when I first got into the daddy gate shit, I thought all British people sounded the same. 03:21:13.220 --> 03:21:21.840 I couldn't tell, I couldn't tell a fucking Welsh accent from a fucking Jordan accent or Liverpool. 03:21:22.400 --> 03:21:27.700 I couldn't fucking tell that at the very beginning. Really? Did you know this, Carl? 03:21:28.040 --> 03:21:35.420 I interviewed fucking Patty Conroy. Do you know who Patty Conroy is? 03:21:35.600 --> 03:21:40.260 No, I don't actually. Patty Conroy is pretty well known. He's got the pirate. 03:21:40.260 --> 03:21:46.500 He's got the fucking eye patch on his eye. He murdered like fucking five people or some shit. 03:21:46.720 --> 03:21:50.240 He's kind of fucking famous. But Patty Conroy, 03:21:51.600 --> 03:21:57.840 he had a thick fucking Jordy accent, man, like super thick. And I remember, 03:21:58.680 --> 03:22:02.540 I remember people in the UK were like, wheezy, what the fuck? 03:22:02.820 --> 03:22:06.680 How did you understand? I'm from the UK. I couldn't understand the motherfucker. 03:22:07.540 --> 03:22:12.840 I don't know how I did it, but I fucking understood him. I know what he was talking about. 03:22:14.060 --> 03:22:18.960 The point is like, yeah, when this guy, when this guy took the microphone from this, 03:22:19.060 --> 03:22:23.980 the cameraman, I immediately knew it was a black dude from the UK. Like, I could tell. 03:22:24.360 --> 03:22:27.400 This, this is what I'm trying to tell you, Carl. I can tell this shit now 03:22:27.400 --> 03:22:31.420 because of my experience from with people from the UK. 03:22:32.400 --> 03:22:39.020 This is a fascinating country. We see it's a small country, but there's hundreds of dialects. 03:22:39.840 --> 03:22:45.100 And the dialects can change like five miles down the road quite dramatically. 03:22:45.520 --> 03:22:51.040 It's phenomenal, really. But some of them really are very thick, like the Jordy accent, 03:22:51.480 --> 03:22:56.280 the Scouse accent, which is Liverpool, the Cockney accent in London, 03:22:57.800 --> 03:23:01.240 and then like the Welsh accent, the Scottish accent as well. 03:23:01.840 --> 03:23:08.620 They've got their own vocabularies as well, but it's so diverse. 03:23:09.640 --> 03:23:16.400 And even the fucking the terminology, like I mentioned, I've been talking to Missy for 03:23:16.400 --> 03:23:20.120 ages now, like there's some shit she says, I'm like, what the fuck is that? 03:23:20.420 --> 03:23:23.980 Like, I never heard it because it's just strictly UK shit. 03:23:23.980 --> 03:23:30.960 But now I understand it, you know, when I'm trying to think of like, okay, 03:23:31.420 --> 03:23:33.620 early when I was doing YouTube streams, 03:23:34.960 --> 03:23:40.100 some dude, most people like me, but there was a dude that came into the lecture like 03:23:41.560 --> 03:23:44.100 wheezy is a toss. He's a toss. 03:23:44.820 --> 03:23:49.420 And I was, I didn't know what a tosser was, bro. I was like, well, yeah, I'm a tosser. 03:23:49.520 --> 03:23:51.820 Fuck yeah, dude. West side. I'm a tosser. 03:23:52.260 --> 03:23:56.820 And then later on people in the live chat was like, no wheezy, you're not a tosser. 03:23:56.960 --> 03:24:00.840 Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't be proudly saying that. 03:24:01.100 --> 03:24:03.840 I'm like, why? What's wrong with being a fucking tosser? 03:24:04.440 --> 03:24:09.080 Like, I would toss as someone that jerks off quite a bit. I'm like, oh, well, 03:24:09.100 --> 03:24:14.280 actually I do that too, but I didn't realize it was a fucking negative thing. 03:24:14.640 --> 03:24:19.700 Yeah, it's like the word wanker. Wanker is just slowly, but surely become a bit 03:24:19.700 --> 03:24:24.900 more familiar with Americans. But 20 years ago, Americans wouldn't know what a wanker is. 03:24:26.980 --> 03:24:33.000 I've got to go and grab my power leads very shortly because I've got a few minutes left 03:24:33.000 --> 03:24:36.180 on my battery. So you have to bear with me in a minute. 03:24:36.740 --> 03:24:40.540 No, you're good. Ashley, you've been turning in. What are your thoughts? 03:24:41.800 --> 03:24:46.720 Yeah, so I was, I was hoping that you could give a little bit of background on, 03:24:46.720 --> 03:24:53.300 so that was the blow up that you had. That was with a debate that you were having with Sean Atwood. 03:24:53.500 --> 03:24:57.880 Can you give me a little history on that? Yeah, yeah, no problem. That was, 03:24:58.580 --> 03:25:02.780 so I had been, so when I was blowing up on YouTube, 03:25:04.380 --> 03:25:09.040 I went from like a couple hundred to thousands of subs because I was doing live streams 03:25:09.920 --> 03:25:14.560 talking about how Sean Atwood is a scam. He's a fraud, blah, blah, blah. 03:25:18.180 --> 03:25:28.020 And I kept asking him, I go, because I, this is, I, I'm just assuming I don't have any evidence for 03:25:28.020 --> 03:25:33.360 this, but I'm assuming he would do a show and then get high on cocaine and then come into my 03:25:33.360 --> 03:25:39.580 live streams. I say this because he would come in with his big ass YouTube channel and talk 03:25:39.580 --> 03:25:46.940 shit in the live streams like wheezy. I like to get a hand job while I have your podcast on in the 03:25:46.940 --> 03:25:52.500 background. He would say shit like that in the live chat. And I'm like, and then people would 03:25:52.500 --> 03:25:57.040 click on his, on his thing, be like, this is an imposter. This can't be fucking Sean Atwood. 03:25:57.460 --> 03:26:02.600 It was fucking Sean Atwood saying this shit. So we're like, Dan, this dude is probably high 03:26:02.600 --> 03:26:08.140 on cocaine. He's doing some shit. Like, he like, what the fuck is he doing? Coming on, 03:26:08.140 --> 03:26:13.980 coming on to someone like my stream, I only had a few hundred subs on YouTube. Why is he 03:26:13.980 --> 03:26:18.860 fucking popping in? And I would constantly egg him on. I'm like, let's do a fucking, 03:26:19.160 --> 03:26:24.480 let's do a live stream, Sean. If you're so innocent, you, you're getting upset of the 03:26:24.480 --> 03:26:28.940 shit that I'm accusing you of. Come on, my fucking show. Let's, let's debate it. Let's 03:26:28.940 --> 03:26:34.040 have a show on it. He would decline. I remember I called him out. So God damn, 03:26:34.040 --> 03:26:39.300 there's so much. This is why I became big because it was so fucking massive. It was almost like a 03:26:39.300 --> 03:26:48.220 fucking soap opera in many ways. But God, I feel like I'm skipping forward so much. But at one point 03:26:48.220 --> 03:26:56.700 I called Sean Atwood, I go, Hey, so he will say this prostitute that he was banging out with, 03:26:56.700 --> 03:27:04.220 and he later built a GoFundMe that ended up earning over 5,000 pounds, 5,000 pounds and 03:27:04.220 --> 03:27:10.360 dollars like fucking $8,000. So he built a GoFundMe for this prostitute that he was banging out, 03:27:10.540 --> 03:27:17.280 that he had on his show and she was supposedly trafficked and all this bullshit. It was all 03:27:17.280 --> 03:27:24.560 bullshit. She was fucking escort. She was a hoe. He became my friend. I have that on my podcast 03:27:24.560 --> 03:27:31.520 platform. It's a Cali Diamond interview. Fuck dude, this brings me way back. 03:27:32.640 --> 03:27:37.340 Cali Diamond was a high and whole. I don't know what Cali Diamond is up to these days. 03:27:39.500 --> 03:27:45.320 I have a, I've said this before and it's not no surprise, but I have a sweet spot for her, 03:27:45.400 --> 03:27:49.100 not because she was a hoe or any of that shit, because she tried to flirt with me. She was 03:27:49.100 --> 03:27:53.680 trying to, she was trying to get me to fuck up on it so she could use dirt on me and I 03:27:53.680 --> 03:27:58.920 never fucking caved. I never caved. I never did anything inappropriate with her, but she was 03:27:58.920 --> 03:28:04.120 trying to get me to do shit so that Sean, I would could then use against me. Like, look, 03:28:04.380 --> 03:28:08.620 he's fucking around with this, this, this Cali Diamond bitch. I never did anything. 03:28:09.040 --> 03:28:13.420 But when I got canceled off for YouTube, the reason I have a sweet spot for her, 03:28:13.600 --> 03:28:18.280 when I got canceled off for YouTube, everyone was laughing at me. People were like mocking 03:28:18.280 --> 03:28:24.080 me and all this shit Cali Diamond reached out to me and said, Hey man, 03:28:25.140 --> 03:28:33.080 keep your head up. You got this. I was talking shit about her for all this time, calling her a 03:28:33.080 --> 03:28:38.660 prostitute bitch and all this shit. She didn't have to do that. She could have laughed in my face 03:28:39.320 --> 03:28:46.460 and she didn't. So that little gesture for me will always have a sweet spot 03:28:46.460 --> 03:28:54.040 in my heart for her as weird as it may sound to other people. But I do have, it's, it's a podcast 03:28:54.040 --> 03:28:58.920 that I did with Cali Diamond. I can't remember what number it is, but she's talking about how 03:28:59.500 --> 03:29:04.420 that would like to deal those in his ass and all this weird ass shit. She's a prostitute, 03:29:04.500 --> 03:29:09.980 so she was being explicit. But now in retrospect, she was probably doing explicit 03:29:09.980 --> 03:29:15.500 talking explicitly to get me canceled off for fucking YouTube. You know what I'm saying? 03:29:15.500 --> 03:29:19.660 It was probably a setup from the very beginning. So anyways, 03:29:21.640 --> 03:29:27.520 why I so I spoke with Sean Atwood's girlfriend, the prostitute Cali Diamond. 03:29:28.320 --> 03:29:33.000 The next I was trying to get Sean Atwood, but he kept dodging me kept dodging me. 03:29:33.180 --> 03:29:37.620 So the next big get was his cameraman, the guy that records his podcast. 03:29:39.440 --> 03:29:43.160 And that's where that clip came from. I interviewed his cameraman. 03:29:43.160 --> 03:29:49.100 And it was a massive get Brian Harvey, the guy that made me the fucking intro to him. 03:29:49.140 --> 03:29:54.020 He put it on his big ass channel. He had a giant ass channel on YouTube. He had like 50,000 subs on 03:29:54.020 --> 03:29:59.860 YouTube. He's like, Hey, everyone, go catch Waze. He's going to be interviewing 03:30:01.320 --> 03:30:07.120 James Esposito. Like he did. He put it on his fucking YouTube channel. It was a massive event 03:30:08.360 --> 03:30:15.140 to interview Sean Atwood's cameraman. And I fucked him up. And 03:30:16.420 --> 03:30:25.060 yeah, sorry, long story. But that's where that little clip came from. So yes, it does. And 03:30:26.380 --> 03:30:31.560 I was also going to ask, so you said that Brian Harvey had, did his YouTube channel get 03:30:31.560 --> 03:30:39.280 nuked as well? Yeah, when everyone got nuked, I think he has one, but it has like a few thousand 03:30:39.280 --> 03:30:46.240 subs. This guy was a guy that sold 22 million CDs at one point. So for someone that big, that famous, 03:30:46.300 --> 03:30:50.520 to not only have a YouTube channel with a couple thousand, I don't even think he streams 03:30:50.520 --> 03:30:55.900 anymore. Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Yeah, Georgia, Brian's in the live chat. He was a 03:30:55.900 --> 03:31:01.500 he fought. So the same way people follow me because of seven C's. 03:31:02.220 --> 03:31:08.680 Georgia Brian followed me because of Brian Harvey. Georgia Brian would probably have more information 03:31:08.680 --> 03:31:15.960 regarding that. So Georgia Brian, leave a long as you or rumble comment on what is Brian Harvey 03:31:15.960 --> 03:31:22.640 up to these days. Because I honestly don't know. I am forever grateful that he created 03:31:22.640 --> 03:31:29.540 this shit for me. He created the intro jam for me that I used on many episodes. 03:31:31.500 --> 03:31:40.060 Yeah, it was humbling for me, you know, to have a friendly relationship. I would talk to Brian 03:31:40.060 --> 03:31:46.900 Harvey while I was working. How many motherfuckers can say they talk to someone like that big 03:31:46.900 --> 03:31:50.600 while you're working? You know what I mean? Like I'm fucking doing garbage. I'm talking 03:31:50.600 --> 03:31:55.460 to Brian Harvey on the phone. You know, it's fucking crazy. It was why it was a wild time. 03:31:56.320 --> 03:32:02.100 And like I mentioned, if you look up you or James English right now, he's fucking massive. He's huge. 03:32:03.040 --> 03:32:09.640 He's a Scottish podcaster. He at one point was entertaining, having me on and Chancellor on. 03:32:10.380 --> 03:32:17.820 He never did. He now ignores me so fucking. But he was tuning into my show at one point. 03:32:17.820 --> 03:32:23.160 You know what I'm saying? That's pretty fucking wild in on its own. 03:32:27.560 --> 03:32:34.120 So yeah, sorry. Yeah, no, no worries. And this was you were saying during the like early days 03:32:34.120 --> 03:32:38.060 of YouTube streaming or like during COVID times when a lot of people started. 03:32:38.580 --> 03:32:44.480 That's when talking about the stuff. That's when I started blowing up was early on in COVID 03:32:45.230 --> 03:32:52.040 around 2021. And it was on the UK. People in America, no one knew who the fuck I was. 03:32:53.600 --> 03:32:59.380 Most 90 percent of the people listening to me was from the UK or Australia, for that matter. 03:33:01.760 --> 03:33:08.280 And I became somewhat of a it was wild. It was a wild family like a little celebrity. 03:33:08.280 --> 03:33:11.140 I remember people with small YouTube channels would 03:33:11.860 --> 03:33:16.940 hey, wheezy, wheezy, do you want to come on my show? I'm like, yeah, I fucking do it. 03:33:17.220 --> 03:33:20.380 I know I'm no one special fuck. Yeah, let's do it. 03:33:20.980 --> 03:33:26.120 And they were so excited to be there. Be like getting all nervous because I'd be on there. 03:33:26.180 --> 03:33:30.880 I'm like, why are you getting nervous? I like I legitimately am a fucking garbage, man. 03:33:31.120 --> 03:33:36.140 Fucking settle down like it ain't shit. And then that died down. 03:33:37.300 --> 03:33:44.340 And then nowadays, most of my audience is American. I still have a good chunk of UK listeners. 03:33:44.640 --> 03:33:51.420 I still have a good chunk of Australian listeners in Canada. Good, good, a good chunk of people, 03:33:51.500 --> 03:33:59.120 but it's nowhere the levels it was, you know, as it was once before, if that makes sense. 03:33:59.860 --> 03:34:04.760 We see the switched on people in the UK really know where it's at. 03:34:04.760 --> 03:34:11.880 You won't find many people like myself in the UK who watch any of the controlled opposition channels. 03:34:13.520 --> 03:34:16.480 We'll only watch people that we feel we can trust. 03:34:17.900 --> 03:34:23.020 That's one of the strengths of the British people. And it's and it's why we're such good warriors. 03:34:24.240 --> 03:34:27.380 We know we know what what it's at and where it's at. 03:34:29.800 --> 03:34:33.960 And so my buddy, oh, sorry, Carl, go on. No, please go on, Ashley. 03:34:34.420 --> 03:34:41.000 Well, I was just going to say, so one of the guys that is on the unknowns is my buddy, Terry, 03:34:41.540 --> 03:34:48.860 and they ended up their expats now. So they moved to the Canary Islands because they just 03:34:48.860 --> 03:34:54.260 well, they needed better weather, first of all, but they definitely have during COVID, 03:34:54.260 --> 03:34:58.340 even with their friends and family that they were still in touch with, they had a difficult time 03:34:59.300 --> 03:35:04.640 because everybody was, you know, they just people were not on the same page as them. 03:35:04.640 --> 03:35:09.280 So it's been difficult for them to deal with their people that are still back in the UK. 03:35:10.380 --> 03:35:14.320 Because well, the same reason that a lot of times here in the States, we had a hard time, 03:35:14.620 --> 03:35:20.900 you know, these subjects were so, you know, they they're so divisive. 03:35:20.900 --> 03:35:26.200 So it made it really difficult for people to have things to talk about, or especially during 03:35:26.200 --> 03:35:32.320 COVID times, because you would say you would like to have the idea of we're not going to talk about 03:35:32.320 --> 03:35:37.600 this. But during COVID, it was just everywhere. It was pervasive, the masses distancing, the 03:35:37.600 --> 03:35:42.040 fear of being around your your friends and family. So they really couldn't get away 03:35:42.040 --> 03:35:44.340 from that. And they they had a hard time with it. 03:35:45.040 --> 03:35:53.380 Yeah. In the UK, you've either got sheeples or seriously switched on people. There's not there's 03:35:53.380 --> 03:36:01.600 not a lot of in between. I I moved to Amsterdam in late 2019, just literally a handful of months 03:36:01.600 --> 03:36:06.980 before all the nonsense kicked off. I moved there to open an art gallery, bookshop, cafe, 03:36:07.820 --> 03:36:14.580 exhibition space, like meeting hub sort of place. But my my dreams were dashed, like Amsterdam 03:36:14.580 --> 03:36:19.360 became a ghost town. Me and me and Honey basically had Amsterdam to ourselves largely. 03:36:21.880 --> 03:36:29.720 And I returned to the UK three years later. But I didn't partake in any of the stipulations 03:36:29.720 --> 03:36:35.060 and mandates to the point where I was put in security guards up against the wall 03:36:35.060 --> 03:36:41.980 in the supermarkets. They'd say they'd say put a mask on. I just said, certainly not. 03:36:42.260 --> 03:36:46.540 And then like moments later, you'd have a hand on your shoulder. And then moments after that, 03:36:46.540 --> 03:36:52.740 someone would be up against the wall. And I and so I do my shopping, I'd get to the till and 03:36:52.740 --> 03:36:57.000 they'd say, sorry, we're not going to serve you. And I just emptied all my basket onto the 03:36:57.000 --> 03:37:01.360 floor and walked out. That happened multiple times. They shut down all the parks. 03:37:01.980 --> 03:37:06.420 Me and Honey actually featured on YouTube several times because we went on all the marches. 03:37:06.620 --> 03:37:12.700 We were present when we were getting charged down by horses and police battens. 03:37:14.160 --> 03:37:18.100 She was a brave little soldier, my hand. Bless her. 03:37:18.600 --> 03:37:23.500 Yeah, it was a dark time. But even when I want to give a shout out to 03:37:24.080 --> 03:37:28.660 I just want to say one last thing. When I returned to the UK, that was the first time 03:37:28.660 --> 03:37:35.360 I ever had to take anything like a PCR test. And what I did is I opted for the spit 03:37:36.820 --> 03:37:41.380 option where you were given a test tube and you spat into it. They sent it off to the lab. 03:37:42.440 --> 03:37:47.060 What I did is I went behind. So I went behind the cubicle, drew the curtain, 03:37:47.900 --> 03:37:51.240 poured a little bit of soft drink into the test tube and handed it to him. 03:37:51.740 --> 03:37:55.060 And it came back negative. Anyway, go ahead. 03:37:56.200 --> 03:37:59.960 Sorry. Now, I just want to give a shout out to Mary on G of G's. 03:38:00.100 --> 03:38:05.980 She's been following me for a long time and she was in the Odyssey chat saying that she still 03:38:05.980 --> 03:38:13.300 listens to this fucking day. The Daddy gate A to Z. She's mentioned to me that when she does 03:38:13.300 --> 03:38:18.240 long road trips, like it's a tool because it's like we almost did four hours. It's a four hour 03:38:18.240 --> 03:38:24.200 podcast. So when she has to drive like a two hour, three hour, she just puts it on and 03:38:24.200 --> 03:38:31.940 fucking jams it down to Mary on. I fucking love you. You've been following me for years and 03:38:34.160 --> 03:38:36.560 yeah, shout out to Mary on. That's all I wanted to say. 03:38:37.380 --> 03:38:42.360 Well, we give it to Joanna. Joanna. I want to give a shout out to foggy in the live chat there. 03:38:42.540 --> 03:38:49.140 Love you loads, mate. A lot of the live chat there. They're familiar faces around on the 03:38:49.140 --> 03:38:56.320 best streams. So I'll give Boomer a mention again and then Knights of the Storm and Algorhythm, 03:38:56.580 --> 03:39:02.580 who's another excellent channel, a good mixture of tunes, banter and serious chat. 03:39:03.240 --> 03:39:08.160 That's a good combo, by the way. We see a little bit of good music. There's another one, 03:39:08.520 --> 03:39:13.760 Crimson Veritas, who does like three hours of karaoke and then three hours of serious 03:39:13.760 --> 03:39:22.600 chat. If I didn't get dinged with copyright bullshit, can you guys hear any music right now 03:39:22.600 --> 03:39:26.600 when I'm talking? You can get away with it a bit more on Rumble though, mate. These are the channels. 03:39:28.240 --> 03:39:32.720 The thing is, I post this shit on Spotify and shit and they would not allow it. 03:39:33.180 --> 03:39:38.840 But right now, y'all don't even realize it. But I got some fucking gangsta shit playing 03:39:38.840 --> 03:39:46.660 in the background. It makes me vibe. If y'all want to know the secret ingredients to dropping 03:39:46.660 --> 03:39:51.320 some fire ass shit, have some gangsta shit in the background and just fucking vibe with it, 03:39:51.560 --> 03:40:00.300 that's what I'm doing. I'm listening to it. Maybe I'm buzzing a little bit. But I wish I could 03:40:00.300 --> 03:40:04.900 play it. If I could play it, y'all would know the shit that I'm fucking vibing right now. 03:40:05.560 --> 03:40:09.980 Um, you know what? I'll give you all the title. So you guys, like, what the fuck is wheezy listening 03:40:09.980 --> 03:40:22.400 to? It's called to put in Junior H. The name of the song is J U E V E S and the number 10 03:40:22.880 --> 03:40:29.420 web is 10. That's just gangsta, man. Listen to the bass, listen to the fucking guitar. 03:40:29.420 --> 03:40:36.720 I'm playing that shit right now and I'm vibing with this shit. So yeah, that's probably completely 03:40:36.720 --> 03:40:44.060 off subject. Yeah, speaking of music. So Carl brought that up and it is fun. And actually 03:40:44.060 --> 03:40:50.780 on nights of the storm, they put together sometimes a name that tune show. And it is a great break 03:40:50.780 --> 03:40:56.740 from a lot of the more serious things. And a lot of people have a lot of fun with that. 03:40:56.740 --> 03:41:01.620 And I definitely think it's fun to mix it up with music. And this is where I wanted to say that 03:41:01.620 --> 03:41:10.340 I, this is how I found wheezy. So, uh, Drizzle does Grand Theft World Liberty Radio. Oh, 03:41:10.360 --> 03:41:17.800 shit. Let's hear this. And that is how I found wheezy. So I, um, because Drizzle and I used 03:41:17.800 --> 03:41:24.780 to do in a group of other people and sometimes rotating people, uh, we did the WTF forum on 03:41:24.780 --> 03:41:32.260 Sunday night and I was, you know, I was listening to his show regularly. So that is how I found wheezy. 03:41:32.780 --> 03:41:38.320 Did you hear me drop the hammer on fucking Drizzle on his episode? That's been a while 03:41:38.320 --> 03:41:41.940 back. I think I did, but it's been a long time ago. It was on a different show. 03:41:43.460 --> 03:41:52.220 Um, the thing is, I don't have to be gossiping, but like I brought, I had Drizzle on my show. 03:41:52.880 --> 03:41:57.140 I like them though. I like them. I thought he was legit. I thought he was cool. 03:41:58.620 --> 03:42:04.020 And then the motherfucker turned crazy. There's no, there's no other way to put it, 03:42:04.460 --> 03:42:11.260 but the motherfucker's mental. Um, you know, I wish him luck in whatever the fuck he's dealing with, 03:42:11.360 --> 03:42:18.840 but he's got fucking issues, man. I, I helped him out. I exposed them to other 03:42:18.840 --> 03:42:24.340 motherfuckers that would help his ass out and the motherfucker repays me by talking shit about me. 03:42:26.040 --> 03:42:29.760 See, I wasn't sure. I, I didn't know about it. 03:42:31.580 --> 03:42:36.440 And I, if you like them, that's cool. I'm just telling you my side of the story. Like, 03:42:38.100 --> 03:42:46.220 all right, you want to talk shit, but when I help you and you talk shit about me, 03:42:46.940 --> 03:42:52.400 maybe that flies with other motherfuckers. That shit don't fly with me, motherfucker. 03:42:54.220 --> 03:43:03.600 And so I was like, how dare you? I, I fucking exposed you. I helped you grow. 03:43:04.320 --> 03:43:07.540 And now you're talking shit about the hand that feeds you, 03:43:09.140 --> 03:43:13.160 bitch. So yeah, I called this ass out on the live stream. 03:43:14.200 --> 03:43:21.240 And then people were mad at me. Like, oh, how drizzles a good guy drizzles this and that. 03:43:21.600 --> 03:43:27.820 Then a week later, Steve Pochonin pretty much verifies all the bullshit I was talking about. 03:43:28.860 --> 03:43:33.620 And I was like, good. See, I didn't have to defend myself. People were talking shit about me 03:43:33.620 --> 03:43:38.820 like, oh, wheezy is this, wheezy is aggressive, wheezy. I didn't say nothing. I just let the 03:43:38.820 --> 03:43:43.040 motherfuckers keep talking, keep talking motherfuckers. The truth eventually comes out and it did. 03:43:43.880 --> 03:43:48.580 And so yeah, when you brought up drizzle, it just brought up those evisceral memories because 03:43:49.580 --> 03:43:56.460 I don't like to hate motherfuckers, man, but when I help you out and your way of repaying 03:43:56.460 --> 03:44:01.620 me is talking shit. Yeah, I don't sit well with me. It don't sit well with anyone. 03:44:02.180 --> 03:44:07.620 Like it'd be one thing if I did something to him and he started talking shit. All right, 03:44:07.620 --> 03:44:13.860 you got a point, you know, whatever I got to let it be. But when I helped you and I did nothing 03:44:13.860 --> 03:44:18.640 to you and you talk shit, then yeah, it's not gonna sit well with me. You know what I'm saying? 03:44:19.720 --> 03:44:25.280 Yeah, which, you know, and I understand I didn't know about that, but that is how I originally 03:44:25.280 --> 03:44:31.320 came to follow. That's crazy. And that's cool. I guess it worked out in the end. 03:44:31.320 --> 03:44:39.460 But I didn't know that I had no idea. And I make I make no qualms with people I beefed with, 03:44:39.500 --> 03:44:43.880 whether it's fucking drizzle, whether it's fucking John Colin, I had John Colin on my show, 03:44:43.960 --> 03:44:52.460 me and him was beefing. So and people can believe him or them or believe me. I don't 03:44:52.460 --> 03:44:57.420 care. I'm just telling you my side, you fucking weigh both sides. See who's telling the truth. 03:44:57.860 --> 03:45:03.600 No, I'm fucking telling the truth. That's how fucking put the garbage out there. So I ain't 03:45:03.600 --> 03:45:09.800 trying to put no fast one on anyone. Yeah, people are fucking weird. That's thing. 03:45:10.020 --> 03:45:13.980 Actually, I know you're thinking about doing your podcast. There's a lot of backstabbing 03:45:13.980 --> 03:45:21.640 motherfuckers here. This there's a lot of motherfuckers that are trying to be Joe 03:45:21.640 --> 03:45:27.480 Rogan, the next Joe Rogan. If you come into this with that attitude, 03:45:30.400 --> 03:45:35.020 my opinion is it's not good. It's not going to work out for you. You just got to be yourself. 03:45:35.760 --> 03:45:39.360 That's what I try to be. I ain't trying to be no motherfucking Joe Rogan. I'm just 03:45:39.360 --> 03:45:45.160 trying to be my motherfucking self because I dropped two motherfucking f bombs. 03:45:45.720 --> 03:45:50.640 I don't give a fuck. This is how I talk in the real world. This is how I am. You 03:45:50.640 --> 03:45:53.480 don't like it. Get the fuck out of here. That's it. 03:45:53.960 --> 03:45:59.400 We see, I've got something to add or say to that as well. There's two groups really. 03:46:00.860 --> 03:46:05.660 There's the controlled opposition with the large followings. They're not in your world. 03:46:05.840 --> 03:46:12.040 They're not even real people. Your genuine peers on these platforms are just like you. 03:46:12.720 --> 03:46:18.980 And they're all welcoming and they are not rivals. They are all your friends. 03:46:19.740 --> 03:46:25.940 All of these streamers that I now follow are all super cool people. They're genuine, 03:46:26.140 --> 03:46:32.200 normal people with on the whole followings less than 10,000. 03:46:33.420 --> 03:46:40.680 But they're not your rivals and you will be able to collaborate with any of them comfortably. 03:46:41.860 --> 03:46:45.740 I get what you're saying, Carl, but I just want to make something clear. 03:46:46.380 --> 03:46:49.160 You could have 10 million fucking followers. 03:46:50.340 --> 03:46:56.380 And if I see you're straight up, if I if I like you, I fucking I'll vibe with you. 03:46:56.600 --> 03:47:03.100 You could have one subscriber and if you want me to go on your show, I'll fucking go on your 03:47:03.100 --> 03:47:09.600 show. I don't give a fuck. One subscriber, one million subscribers. It don't mean shit to me. 03:47:10.960 --> 03:47:15.580 I want to know are you are you being straight up? Are you being a fake ass motherfucker? 03:47:15.940 --> 03:47:19.420 You trying to be the next Joe Rogan? Fuck you then. I don't want to fucking talk to you. 03:47:19.440 --> 03:47:24.140 I don't care if you have one million subs. Let me finish this call real quick, 03:47:24.140 --> 03:47:27.240 because I don't think a lot of people, a lot of people that criticize me 03:47:27.840 --> 03:47:35.160 for the way that I is. I've been offered to be on big shows. I've been flirted with. 03:47:36.440 --> 03:47:40.080 Maybe they have an outright asked me to be on the show, but they've been flirting with me. 03:47:41.080 --> 03:47:44.760 Like asking like they've been flirting me in the in the sense of like, 03:47:44.780 --> 03:47:47.760 damn, all right, I followed him on Twitter. 03:47:49.240 --> 03:47:52.440 Now I want him to message me and we'll get him on the show. 03:47:53.060 --> 03:47:57.320 I don't play that motherfucking game. Fuck you. You want me on your show? 03:47:57.480 --> 03:48:00.640 Fucking straight up. Ask me. Don't be playing these fucking games with me. 03:48:01.420 --> 03:48:05.600 And I don't care if you got a million fucking followers or any of this shit. 03:48:05.800 --> 03:48:09.820 I honestly don't. I don't care. You know, 03:48:11.940 --> 03:48:17.080 I guess I'll touch on it right now. Sam Tripoli. I know he listens to my motherfucking show. 03:48:17.700 --> 03:48:25.200 He references shit that I fucking say on his fucking show all the fucking time. 03:48:25.200 --> 03:48:27.580 And then I've been on you nearly wanted it. 03:48:28.480 --> 03:48:35.500 But then for whatever reason in public on Twitter, whatever he acts like, he doesn't fucking know me. 03:48:36.260 --> 03:48:40.800 He acts like he's never heard. This is the first time I heard a wheezy. Who's wheezy? 03:48:41.360 --> 03:48:45.740 Oh, who's we fuck you, you fucking bitch. As I don't care if you're listening right now. 03:48:45.860 --> 03:48:50.360 Fucking Sam, you know the way you act bitch. You act like a fucking bitch as motherfucking 03:48:50.360 --> 03:48:54.720 pussy. I don't know why he doesn't have me on and I don't give a fuck, motherfucker. 03:48:55.660 --> 03:49:00.700 If you don't have the balls to have me on when I know you fucking like my shit, 03:49:00.720 --> 03:49:05.260 I know you listen to my shit. If you don't have the fucking ball because whoever's telling you this 03:49:05.260 --> 03:49:12.080 or that you're a pussy, dude, and I don't give a fuck. Oh, now I'm not never going to have you 03:49:12.080 --> 03:49:17.440 on. Guess what? Fuck you again. I don't care. It's it's. 03:49:19.540 --> 03:49:22.940 I guess that's a bigger point that I'm trying to get it. I don't give a fuck, 03:49:22.940 --> 03:49:28.980 bro. I genuinely don't give a fuck. I want to I want to vibe with people that's genuine. 03:49:30.020 --> 03:49:34.120 I don't want this fake as shit. If you're scared because of this, if you're scared because of 03:49:34.120 --> 03:49:41.720 that, fuck you. I don't care. Fuck out of here. But that's all I'm trying to say. 03:49:43.860 --> 03:49:47.740 I know Sam listens to my shit. I know he's listening to my shit. I know it. 03:49:47.740 --> 03:49:53.760 It's been confirmed. People in the past have said, well, maybe you're just imagine. 03:49:53.980 --> 03:50:00.660 No, it's been confirmed. But the bitch decides to be a pussy and not have me on the show. 03:50:00.880 --> 03:50:05.920 Fuck it. I don't care. I don't beg anyone. That's one thing about me. I don't kiss ass. 03:50:06.360 --> 03:50:12.980 I don't beg anyone for shit. If you're too much of a pussy, then fuck it. Be a pussy, man. 03:50:12.980 --> 03:50:19.600 Play your safe, dangerous shit. I don't give a fuck. But I ain't going to do shit to. 03:50:21.860 --> 03:50:26.240 I'm sorry. Maybe I'm vibing a little ghetto because I'm listening to my ghetto ass shit right 03:50:26.240 --> 03:50:32.420 now in the background and it's making me feel good. You know, that's the secret to podcasting. 03:50:32.520 --> 03:50:36.680 Put some shit that you vibe with and I'm listening to some ghetto ass gangsta shit 03:50:36.680 --> 03:50:43.340 and I don't give a fuck right now. And some people are like, oh, you just shot. 03:50:43.580 --> 03:50:49.320 You just you just blew your low with Sam. I don't give a fuck. I've said this in the past. 03:50:49.980 --> 03:50:56.140 I know he listens to my shit, but he tries to pretend like he's never heard of me 03:50:56.580 --> 03:51:01.460 or or he he doesn't know me, bitch. Fuck out of here, bitch. I don't know you either, 03:51:01.460 --> 03:51:11.300 bitch. And your comedy is wack. So there it is, man. I don't care. I just went on a weird ass. 03:51:11.520 --> 03:51:17.840 I'd like to say I'd like to say a couple of quick things, if that's all right. 03:51:18.360 --> 03:51:22.740 The first thing is two hours ago, I said my good night in the live chat 03:51:23.800 --> 03:51:26.500 and I was going to go over and listen to boomers. 03:51:27.340 --> 03:51:34.020 But then just as I did so, you asked me to give you a call in. So I'm here now because 03:51:34.020 --> 03:51:38.120 A, I wanted to say hello to Ashley and B, I didn't want to let you down. 03:51:39.400 --> 03:51:46.180 And bitch, bitch. What was your primary reason you called in? Don't be putting wheezy in the bitch. 03:51:48.440 --> 03:51:52.440 You said Ashley was your greatest. You lying ass, bitch. 03:51:53.900 --> 03:52:00.500 It's a seven letter word, mate. Respect. I've got respect for you. And the other thing I wanted to 03:52:00.500 --> 03:52:06.480 say is I just wanted to give you a suggestion. Don't be playing no games, Carl. Don't be playing 03:52:06.480 --> 03:52:11.540 no sensibly bullshit. Just say you called in because Ashley was on the fucking stream. That's 03:52:12.100 --> 03:52:16.800 this is the third time in my whole life I've ever called into anything. And two of those occasions 03:52:16.800 --> 03:52:29.500 have been for you. After a few nights after it was algorithm actually. But anyway, I just want 03:52:29.500 --> 03:52:34.540 the second thing I wanted to say is a suggestion. You've got a damn good live chat community 03:52:34.540 --> 03:52:40.320 there wheezy. You're familiar with a lot of the names there. Hold on, Carl. Let me stop you 03:52:40.320 --> 03:52:48.100 before you go on any further. You know why I have a fire ass live chat? Because you're genuine. 03:52:52.060 --> 03:52:58.680 No, I'm not going to take any credit for that. That's missing. He welcomes everyone. 03:52:59.480 --> 03:53:02.620 He's the fucking vibe going 100% of the time. 03:53:04.000 --> 03:53:08.420 He's the reason we all find out different ways to get in here. 03:53:09.060 --> 03:53:12.180 I know, but I'm trying to go around with the drinks. That's it. 03:53:12.940 --> 03:53:15.020 Trying to be humble. I ain't trying to be. 03:53:15.720 --> 03:53:20.060 I ain't trying to sound like I'm fucking holier than that. No, that's the fucking truth. 03:53:20.280 --> 03:53:25.680 Right there, Carl. Don't say it's because of me. Because back in the YouTube days, 03:53:25.680 --> 03:53:29.320 who's my fucking bad motherfucking mind? Her. 03:53:29.860 --> 03:53:35.220 No, you are right. It is out of respect also for the live chat. I feel like I know 03:53:35.220 --> 03:53:40.020 quite a few of them reasonably well now. I see them around in multiple different streams 03:53:40.020 --> 03:53:46.760 every day of the week, seven days a week. Anyway, just to quickly say my suggestion, 03:53:47.460 --> 03:53:54.580 because you're comfortable with your live chat, ask your live chat in the comments section 03:53:55.110 --> 03:54:03.680 to write down their favorite six streams on Rumble. And I think you'd find the answers quite 03:54:03.680 --> 03:54:10.320 interesting. Firstly, you'd find that there's no big names there. And you would also find that 03:54:10.320 --> 03:54:15.700 most of the six names given by people would be people that are very similar to yourself. 03:54:16.060 --> 03:54:22.540 Like I said, you've got genuine peers around you who would all welcome you on their show. 03:54:22.540 --> 03:54:27.860 And you would genuinely take to them immediately. You're all good people. 03:54:28.820 --> 03:54:33.620 And so what it would give you is just a little heads up as to who people listen to 03:54:33.620 --> 03:54:41.200 other than yourself. Because you're like once or twice a week. And this community is seven days 03:54:41.200 --> 03:54:45.680 a week, like 13 hours a day, seven days a week. And we see each other everywhere. 03:54:46.180 --> 03:54:50.680 We all have the same favorites. But it would be interesting, a little exercise, 03:54:50.680 --> 03:54:58.040 but it might just allow you to just maybe investigate a couple of these names yourself. 03:54:58.580 --> 03:55:03.800 And but through Seven Seas, you will, you will connect up with Boomer through Seven Seas. 03:55:03.800 --> 03:55:10.200 Yeah, he would send me up. I'm gonna get yourself familiar with Synergy as well, 03:55:10.240 --> 03:55:15.400 which is the bio digital convergence. You want to hear something funny? 03:55:16.780 --> 03:55:19.760 Me and Seven Seas was playing video games last night. 03:55:20.700 --> 03:55:28.260 And then I was drinking some beers. I'm telling you, man, Seven Seas is like my little bro. 03:55:28.760 --> 03:55:36.460 I love that motherfucker. And he doesn't talk to anyone, but he talks to me. 03:55:37.120 --> 03:55:44.340 And I don't take that lightly. Like the fact that he does fucking trust me, 03:55:44.340 --> 03:55:48.720 he genuinely does trust me means a lot like. 03:55:50.360 --> 03:55:54.260 Fuck dude, I'm listening to gangsta's music. I need to wear that out because it's 03:55:54.260 --> 03:55:56.120 affecting my my thought process. 03:56:00.140 --> 03:56:04.680 When, when, when I get someone like my boy Seven Seas 03:56:08.160 --> 03:56:13.300 trust me and we have a pretty tight relationship. 03:56:15.180 --> 03:56:17.740 I don't take that lightly, man. Like 03:56:21.280 --> 03:56:26.900 in real life, I don't have brands. I don't. I don't. I don't talk to anyone 03:56:28.280 --> 03:56:31.880 in real life in the physical world. 03:56:33.840 --> 03:56:35.740 I'm kind of viewed as a weirdo. 03:56:38.080 --> 03:56:40.500 People were listening to the show. Like, what the fuck, dude? 03:56:41.200 --> 03:56:44.840 We easy. You talk a lot. You, you talk a lot of shit on live shit. 03:56:45.360 --> 03:56:49.680 That's on the fucking podcast. But in real life, I'm a fucking loner. 03:56:52.940 --> 03:56:57.140 I don't have any friends. And as I said last week, 03:56:58.300 --> 03:57:01.260 that's not me begging for friends. No, fuck no. 03:57:02.100 --> 03:57:06.960 This is me. I like, I like being a lone wolf. I like doing shit on my own. 03:57:07.060 --> 03:57:09.080 I like reflecting. I do a lot of thinking. 03:57:13.320 --> 03:57:15.320 And sometimes I overthink shit. 03:57:16.340 --> 03:57:19.140 You know, sometimes I've reached out to people for podcasts. 03:57:19.920 --> 03:57:23.380 They don't answer right away. And then I'm like, are they motherfucking hate me? 03:57:23.760 --> 03:57:28.000 And all this shit. And then they get back to me a few weeks later and like, oh, 03:57:28.000 --> 03:57:32.540 shit. I just barely saw this email. Like, oh, damn, I was thinking the worst. 03:57:33.220 --> 03:57:40.740 I don't. I think you don't realize how similar you are to your genuine peers on this platform. 03:57:41.440 --> 03:57:42.940 Hey, how's it going, Chris? 03:57:46.580 --> 03:57:49.240 There's a lot of others. We see who are very similar. 03:57:49.620 --> 03:57:52.880 I love Steve. Well, you got to switch up. 03:57:58.000 --> 03:58:01.560 Steve is my fucking dog. I love. Shout out to my boy, Steve boy, Conan. 03:58:01.800 --> 03:58:05.480 We're probably going to do an M.A. show next weekend. So if anyone's wondering, 03:58:07.080 --> 03:58:14.780 Steve is my fucking dog. I just want to invite my boy, Chris, which, sorry, Carl, 03:58:14.940 --> 03:58:23.800 I interrupted you, but I texted Chris specifically while Ashley was giving her 03:58:23.800 --> 03:58:33.040 phenomenal Vietnam show because you are an actual war veteran. You didn't serve in Vietnam, 03:58:33.040 --> 03:58:37.700 but you are a war veteran. You are very intelligent. 03:58:39.200 --> 03:58:43.160 And Chris, you can attest to what I'm about to say right now. 03:58:43.640 --> 03:58:50.120 You and I have each other's phone numbers. Personal phone numbers because I only give 03:58:50.120 --> 03:58:54.120 my personal phone number to people. I don't have any friends. I don't, 03:58:55.340 --> 03:58:58.520 but I only give my personal phone number to people that I trust. 03:59:00.580 --> 03:59:06.780 And Chris, you are someone that I trust. I've given you my phone number and 03:59:07.860 --> 03:59:14.500 thank you. You are wise. The shit that comes out of your mouth is not shit. It's fucking 03:59:14.500 --> 03:59:22.720 wisdom, bro. Like last week you were saying a few words and at the time I was a little bit 03:59:24.380 --> 03:59:28.720 inebriated and then I listened to it again. I'm like, God damn, this motherfucker is dropping 03:59:28.720 --> 03:59:36.800 truth bombs and I wasn't even fully, fully conscious. So that's my introduction to Chris 03:59:36.800 --> 03:59:46.180 as he joins the stream. What's up, Chris? What's up, Chris? 03:59:47.180 --> 03:59:49.760 No, he's crazy. Oh, he froze up. 03:59:49.820 --> 03:59:52.980 Not much, man. And I just wanted to give a shout out to Ashley. 03:59:54.460 --> 03:59:57.660 You know, everyone's been praising. Yeah. Can you guys hear me? 03:59:58.640 --> 03:59:59.520 Yeah, I froze. 04:00:00.400 --> 04:00:04.580 You're kind of froze. You know what? Turn off your video and just use your voice. 04:00:07.180 --> 04:00:09.340 Turn off your video, bro. 04:00:12.160 --> 04:00:14.640 There you go. That's going to be a lot better. 04:00:14.640 --> 04:00:17.060 OK, I think it's going to kick me out right now on this second. 04:00:17.760 --> 04:00:20.740 You're good. Oh, shit, kick them out. 04:00:21.980 --> 04:00:27.900 So I don't know. You'll be Chris is having some stream issues. I'm sure he'll hop in again. 04:00:29.240 --> 04:00:31.660 Chris is a good dude. He's a war veteran. 04:00:32.880 --> 04:00:38.240 I guarantee you I've never asked him straight up. I guarantee you the motherfucker seen some shit. 04:00:40.400 --> 04:00:47.900 But he's not the type of dude to gloat or brag about. He's fucking. 04:00:49.900 --> 04:00:54.040 I'm assuming he's seen some crazy shit. I'm assuming he's done some crazy shit. 04:00:54.900 --> 04:00:59.220 But you talk to him and he's the chillest motherfucker you'll ever come across. 04:01:02.460 --> 04:01:11.360 And my respect for Chris is through the roof. So hopefully he'll call back in. He dropped out. 04:01:11.900 --> 04:01:22.120 Maybe he wasn't the best internet safe connection. But yeah, Chris is a bad motherfucker. 04:01:23.100 --> 04:01:28.660 While we're waiting on him to hop back in, I did want to say that that's one thing about this 04:01:28.660 --> 04:01:34.940 space that is difficult to navigate sometimes is figuring out those people that you can trust because 04:01:34.940 --> 04:01:41.100 if you're a naturally more trusting person, then you just need to make sure that you are using 04:01:41.100 --> 04:01:47.980 discernment in dealing with people and having these conversations. And it can be tricky because 04:01:47.980 --> 04:01:52.840 it's just like any other environment or any other corporate or work environment or something 04:01:52.840 --> 04:01:57.780 like that. You're going to have people that they are genuine and they want to help you 04:01:57.780 --> 04:02:05.780 and work with you and then you do have to go. Yes. Yeah, bro. Ashley was just dropping some 04:02:05.780 --> 04:02:12.140 truth bombs. You're good, bro. We can hear you. Yeah. Okay, man, you know, my past couple of 04:02:12.140 --> 04:02:17.460 days, my internet's been real shitty. And I think that could be part of it. You're good, 04:02:17.720 --> 04:02:24.860 but I did want to just say that I didn't want to say that Ashley, you know, again, 04:02:24.860 --> 04:02:29.440 you began a lot of praise from the chat and you do really great work and your insights are 04:02:29.440 --> 04:02:34.740 awesome. The research you're doing is awesome. And I really liked the fact that you're covering 04:02:34.740 --> 04:02:40.080 the Phoenix Project in Vietnam because- Thank you. The Phoenix Project. Yeah, the Phoenix 04:02:40.080 --> 04:02:44.520 Project is, I read that book, I think it was called The Phoenix Project. I read that book 04:02:44.520 --> 04:02:49.300 several years ago. And when you learn about what they were doing in Vietnam, and I mentioned 04:02:49.300 --> 04:02:52.120 this earlier in the chat, one of the other things that they were doing wasn't just, 04:02:52.120 --> 04:02:59.820 I believe there was purposes for Vietnam, but a lot of it was to test out a lot of these new 04:02:59.820 --> 04:03:07.820 programs, not just this new weaponry, but mind control stuff. And Ashley was talking about 04:03:07.820 --> 04:03:11.660 how the Navy SEALs would work with these individuals, and they would do stuff. And they 04:03:11.660 --> 04:03:15.360 would, the men with green faces, you know, they would say that because they would paint 04:03:15.360 --> 04:03:20.260 their faces green. They would do certain things to invoke fear into the populace. There 04:03:22.120 --> 04:03:30.840 in Vietnam. And it was all a part of mind control stuff. The other thing I think is, 04:03:31.340 --> 04:03:35.220 and I'm going to relate this to, this is me saying this, but I'm going to relate this 04:03:35.220 --> 04:03:41.200 to the Franklin scandal because one of the guys, one of the big, two of the big dudes that were 04:03:41.200 --> 04:03:47.080 involved in the Franklin scandal came from Vietnam. And I believe, I think that he 04:03:47.080 --> 04:03:52.620 alludes to this, that it could have be because they got caught doing pedophilia stuff there in 04:03:52.620 --> 04:03:56.340 Vietnam while they were there. And instead of punishing them, I believe it was like, oh, 04:03:56.360 --> 04:04:00.220 shit, here's some people that we can exploit and it'll do some bad shit for us because we got 04:04:00.220 --> 04:04:04.740 them on some stuff. And they just brought them over and they set up their organization, which 04:04:04.740 --> 04:04:09.160 set up the Franklin scandal, which they were shuttling little boys and girls to the White 04:04:09.160 --> 04:04:15.560 House, you know, for sex magic ritual stuff. And so I believe a lot of that came from 04:04:15.560 --> 04:04:23.700 Vietnam, too. Yeah, I definitely wouldn't be surprised to learn that. There definitely is 04:04:23.700 --> 04:04:28.500 the connection because this is one of the things that William Colby, the CIA director, 04:04:28.740 --> 04:04:34.860 was involved in basically covering up the Franklin scandal and getting it shut down. 04:04:35.240 --> 04:04:39.800 And of course, he was involved in Gladio and he was involved in Project Phoenix or Operation 04:04:39.800 --> 04:04:45.660 Phoenix. So I would not be surprised to learn that there was a link. And if we believe that these 04:04:45.660 --> 04:04:51.060 operations are not only being perpetrated on the Vietnamese people, but they're being turned on 04:04:51.060 --> 04:04:59.160 Americans, and we know that from even the mind control operations and trials and experiments 04:04:59.160 --> 04:05:05.540 that they did on people who had no clue and they were not voluntarily participating in these 04:05:05.540 --> 04:05:12.780 things, that they would extrapolate what they learned in whatever scenario, whether that's on a 04:05:12.780 --> 04:05:27.440 small scale or a large scale, and bring it here 100%. Did you get that, Chris? 04:05:30.300 --> 04:05:34.600 Yeah, you know, and and you guys are probably familiar with, I've mentioned this before, but 04:05:34.600 --> 04:05:46.580 the CIA document, yes, yes. But I was going to say that most people are probably familiar with 04:05:46.580 --> 04:05:51.660 that CIA document that supposedly was found in a direct copy called Solid Weapons for Quiet Wars. 04:05:52.600 --> 04:05:58.880 And they talk about in there, there's algorithms, they show actual formulated algorithms of how to 04:05:58.880 --> 04:06:06.380 control population and culture. And and this was back in what the 50s or 60s or something like that. 04:06:06.600 --> 04:06:10.740 So it's like, they were doing this stuff for a long, maybe doing this stuff for Vietnam about 04:06:11.240 --> 04:06:15.980 mass mind control. They're now shifting it on the US populace, because that's what they tell us, 04:06:16.000 --> 04:06:19.720 right? The director said, we'll know that our information campaign is complete when 04:06:19.720 --> 04:06:22.740 everything the American believes is a lie. And that's where we're at. 04:06:30.190 --> 04:06:32.730 You know, one of the things that is 04:06:34.930 --> 04:06:41.790 I guess, contradictory to what what I say quite a bit is, I don't care what people 04:06:42.670 --> 04:06:45.650 want to listen to or whatever, I just do shit because I want to do. 04:06:46.730 --> 04:06:55.310 We already have 1500 people that are listening on rumble alone. I haven't even posted it on 04:06:55.310 --> 04:07:03.310 Spotify. So 1500 people, if you think about a little studio, little fucking hallway, whatever, 04:07:03.830 --> 04:07:10.370 that's a lot of people, you know what I'm saying? And so people are interested in this Vietnam 04:07:10.370 --> 04:07:15.250 stuff. You know, as I prefaced at the very beginning, I don't know much shit about it. 04:07:15.670 --> 04:07:22.310 So I want to thank you, Ashley, because this was your subject. This is what you want to speak 04:07:22.310 --> 04:07:29.410 about. When you said that, I was like, Okay, I've never fucking done Vietnam. 04:07:31.070 --> 04:07:40.950 You made me do research into the shit. You made me be like, Oh, my God, what the fuck? 04:07:41.950 --> 04:07:48.750 It was you, Ashley. So I thank you for that. Thank you so much. Yeah, this is I was obviously 04:07:48.750 --> 04:07:53.430 whenever you asked me if I want to do the show this week, I wanted to jump on that opportunity. 04:07:53.610 --> 04:07:59.050 I felt like I, I wish that I would have had more time to be even more prepared, 04:07:59.550 --> 04:08:04.110 but I did not want to miss the opportunity to have this conversation with you. And I, 04:08:04.210 --> 04:08:09.730 I'm so glad that you were interested in that you did dig into the videos that we talked about 04:08:09.730 --> 04:08:14.270 into the perfect war and highly recommend if you don't want to read the books, 04:08:14.270 --> 04:08:21.530 look up interviews from these guys. Douglas Valentine, for sure, the author of the Phoenix 04:08:21.530 --> 04:08:28.530 program. Now, I think that he's a little bit in the left leaning, but and he, at least when he was 04:08:28.530 --> 04:08:34.730 speaking with geopolitics and empire, he did believe in COVID measures and things like that, 04:08:34.730 --> 04:08:42.010 which I had a question about because I was like, is this not obvious to you with the 04:08:42.010 --> 04:08:46.930 the research that you have done that this is a continuation of that type of terror campaign? 04:08:47.930 --> 04:08:55.250 But, but I still think that he has so much valuable information to add to us that is going 04:08:55.250 --> 04:09:01.830 to help us really see things through a new and improved lens. And then of course, the perfect 04:09:01.830 --> 04:09:08.110 war. Yeah, so I'm glad you brought Gibson. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, Ashley, 04:09:08.110 --> 04:09:17.730 because that's just another case and point where someone could be dead wrong on something. 04:09:18.230 --> 04:09:21.910 That doesn't mean they're dead wrong on every fucking thing. 04:09:22.630 --> 04:09:28.930 They could be dropping truth bombs at times. You know what I'm saying? So Doug Valentine, 04:09:29.370 --> 04:09:33.770 buying into the COVID, like if you look at Doug Valentine's work and be like, 04:09:33.770 --> 04:09:39.230 well, shit, he was wrong on COVID. So I'm not gonna why am I going to believe anything else? 04:09:39.410 --> 04:09:46.930 You're the one that's fucked up because people get fucked up all the time, man. No one. 04:09:48.030 --> 04:09:53.950 Absolutely no one that includes myself. That includes everyone else. 04:09:55.110 --> 04:09:58.370 We're human. We get shit wrong. Yes. 04:09:59.350 --> 04:10:04.870 And that's it. You have to look at the information on a case by case 04:10:07.530 --> 04:10:14.550 measure and be like, okay, okay, COVID. Yeah, Doug Valentine was dead off from 04:10:15.250 --> 04:10:17.990 goddamn Vietnam. He's got a fucking damn good point. 04:10:18.590 --> 04:10:24.090 Yeah. And the other thing I want to add really quickly is that he could have changed his mind. 04:10:24.090 --> 04:10:28.670 So this was five years ago and we were in a different place with information five years ago, 04:10:28.670 --> 04:10:36.530 right? So I think that that is a possibility for him. And the other thing that I am trying to do 04:10:36.530 --> 04:10:44.330 in my really digging into this subject is to also be open to the views of a lot of different 04:10:44.330 --> 04:10:48.530 people because I'm not an expert and it's not in modern times. So we don't have people 04:10:48.530 --> 04:10:52.750 saying like, oh, well, this person's connected to you. They're sponsored on their show by Oracle 04:10:52.750 --> 04:10:59.990 or the Wellness Company or whatever you want to put in to say in that, right? So this is older stuff. 04:11:00.090 --> 04:11:06.070 So what we can do is learn as much as we possibly can and then use our discernment to try to figure 04:11:06.070 --> 04:11:15.590 out what is tracking with people that are trying to tell us the truth. And I agree that you're 04:11:15.590 --> 04:11:20.590 exactly right. Sometimes we may not agree with everything. And he also is kind of, 04:11:20.590 --> 04:11:26.050 you know, he's left leaning. He doesn't necessarily, what now? Sorry. 04:11:28.850 --> 04:11:33.550 I think his internet is kind of slow. So he's getting our conversations 04:11:34.710 --> 04:11:45.490 in the past. I'll text you, bro. Can you hear me? Go ahead. 04:11:47.610 --> 04:11:48.530 Can you guys hear me? 04:11:49.270 --> 04:11:53.990 Yeah, man. Can you guys hear me? Nice and clear. Can you guys hear me? 04:11:55.190 --> 04:12:02.250 We can hear you. No, I was going to say that one one one point I wanted one point I wanted 04:12:02.250 --> 04:12:08.010 to touch on earlier that you were talking about. Yeah. Okay. That was that. Go ahead. You 04:12:08.010 --> 04:12:11.950 can't hear me. Basically, I was going to say that 04:12:13.910 --> 04:12:20.250 Weezy, one of the things you were talking about as far as could someone be wrong on one thing 04:12:20.250 --> 04:12:30.130 and and on another because that there's lowest thing, you know, like for you with moon landing, 04:12:30.290 --> 04:12:34.370 you know, it's just like to you, the moon landing is like, bam, it's clear, you know, 04:12:34.370 --> 04:12:39.630 but you're not ready to go to that level of flat earth, you know, but you're there on 04:12:39.630 --> 04:12:43.930 the moon landing, you're just not quite over the hill. Can I answer that Chris? 04:12:44.370 --> 04:12:51.730 And then I wanted to say to was a really good movie to look at the 04:12:53.590 --> 04:12:59.970 Go ahead. Yeah, I'm sorry. I think you got a little delay bro. You got like a five second delay. 04:13:01.150 --> 04:13:05.150 Um, so anyways, when it comes to flat earth, 04:13:06.870 --> 04:13:15.270 I want a flat earth earth to call in. I'm not gonna eviscerate you. I'm not gonna shit on you. 04:13:18.190 --> 04:13:23.130 Yeah, you got a five second delay bro. So whenever I say something, you got to give me five seconds. 04:13:25.950 --> 04:13:31.570 But on my Spotify comments, I got quite a few motherfucking flatters. There's that follow me. 04:13:32.270 --> 04:13:36.370 I ain't sitting on you. I know the Apollo detectives shit on flat earth. 04:13:38.390 --> 04:13:42.750 And I'm not gonna shit on my Apollo detectives homies. That's my homies. That's my friends. 04:13:44.130 --> 04:13:48.350 I don't agree with everything they say. And y'all heard me. If you listen to the shows, 04:13:48.810 --> 04:13:54.250 y'all heard me disagree with with the Apollo detectives. That doesn't mean I'm a flatter 04:13:54.250 --> 04:14:04.790 thing. And I know it seems it appears anyways that some of my listeners, some of my friends, 04:14:04.910 --> 04:14:16.390 I'm not going to call you followers and shit. Y'all resonate with the flatter stuff. I'm not 04:14:16.390 --> 04:14:24.070 cool. How many times have I said calling? Give me your presentation. You give me some solid fucking 04:14:24.070 --> 04:14:31.830 evidence. I'll fucking boom, I'll fucking switch allegiance immediately. You got to lay a good 04:14:31.830 --> 04:14:41.110 case. This bullshit that well, uh, we already know NASA lies and therefore the earth is flat. 04:14:41.950 --> 04:14:48.690 Now fuck you. That's not good evidence. I know NASA lies. That doesn't make the earth flat. 04:14:52.090 --> 04:14:57.390 So if you are a flat earth, and you feel you have a compelling case, 04:14:58.350 --> 04:15:01.690 how many motherfucking times do I got to say call the motherfucking stream? 04:15:03.070 --> 04:15:07.950 Y'all will leave comments later on. Oh shit, here we go. 04:15:09.090 --> 04:15:12.030 Oh, it's fucking. It wasn't me. 04:15:13.890 --> 04:15:16.870 I said never a straight answer. Sorry. 04:15:20.030 --> 04:15:25.010 Yeah. Can you hear me a little better now? You sound like you're 04:15:25.550 --> 04:15:32.430 live streaming from a tinfoil can, but it works. Oh, yeah. One second here. Missy. Missy said in 04:15:32.430 --> 04:15:35.150 the chat that, um, Chris was on the moon. 04:15:37.490 --> 04:15:45.230 He's talking online. Yeah, he's calling a mixed. Is this, is this a little better? 04:15:45.950 --> 04:15:51.450 Yeah, that's a lot better. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Uh, sorry about that. I'm just having issues 04:15:51.450 --> 04:15:54.910 with my, I don't apologize motherfucking. Yeah. 04:15:56.290 --> 04:16:00.030 Uh, but no, I was, uh, yeah, going back to like some of the other stuff that, you know, 04:16:00.030 --> 04:16:06.970 especially going, um, to the phoenix stuff and, um, this whole soldiering and Blake's a good, 04:16:06.970 --> 04:16:11.230 a good guy in the chat, um, because he's a former veteran as well. Shout out to Blake. 04:16:11.830 --> 04:16:19.110 And, um, but yeah, like I kind of like you, Weezy. I don't want to shoot people and I can 04:16:19.110 --> 04:16:24.070 at least say in my military career, and I've been on hundreds, hundreds of special operations 04:16:24.570 --> 04:16:30.450 and I've never killed anyone. I can, I can take pride in the fact that I never killed anyone. 04:16:30.770 --> 04:16:37.510 I have shot my weapon and I will say that I have gotten rough with some people. Um, 04:16:38.270 --> 04:16:41.870 uh, you know, physically rough with people, but I've never had to shoot my weapon and I know 04:16:41.870 --> 04:16:45.970 that I never killed anyone. What I can say about your career. That's not saying respect 04:16:45.970 --> 04:16:51.150 right there, Chris. And what I can't say about a military career is that I can take 04:16:51.150 --> 04:16:56.550 pride in the fact that I was there as an explosive expert to save my fellow soldiers 04:16:56.550 --> 04:17:03.130 and I did, I did a good job and I did save lives. And, um, so when you were talking earlier about 04:17:03.130 --> 04:17:11.130 patriotism, um, I would say that I was a patriot, not to this, um, military industrial complex. 04:17:11.450 --> 04:17:16.230 I don't have patriotism like that. I have patriotism for my fellow man and, um, 04:17:16.790 --> 04:17:24.290 and we all got bought in on these fake wars and I was, I got suckered into all of it, you know, 04:17:24.570 --> 04:17:28.970 and I remember, you know, kind of what you were saying, Weezy, I believe you're a fighter. 04:17:29.570 --> 04:17:34.030 You have the capacity for violence. I am a fighter. I have the capacity for violence, 04:17:34.030 --> 04:17:37.810 but that's not what I want to do. If I don't have to, can I shoot somebody? Absolutely. 04:17:38.370 --> 04:17:43.350 Well, I do so to save my fellow man. Absolutely. But point blank, that's not me. 04:17:43.350 --> 04:17:49.510 And one of the, I was in a, I was in a special unit where you had to be really aggressive and 04:17:49.510 --> 04:17:53.450 they would tell me all the time, like, dude, you got to be more aggressive. And in the house, 04:17:53.790 --> 04:17:58.670 you know, doing close court of combat, I'm good at what I do, but they wanted you like 04:17:58.670 --> 04:18:03.590 aggressive, like in the supermarket, just like aggro all the time. And I can say this, like, 04:18:04.270 --> 04:18:07.110 we would, before we go on missions, we have what we call the ready room. 04:18:07.570 --> 04:18:11.190 And that's where everybody goes and they jock up, they put on their body armor, 04:18:11.190 --> 04:18:14.910 they check all their weapons, they make sure everything's nice and lubed. They get all the 04:18:14.910 --> 04:18:19.510 bullets they need. Like, yeah, I'm ready for war. It's called the ready room. I would go in there 04:18:19.510 --> 04:18:23.850 and some guys are joking, they're laughing and stuff. But then I would look around and there 04:18:23.850 --> 04:18:30.370 were dudes that had this look on their face that all they wanted to do was kill. They were 04:18:30.370 --> 04:18:35.110 straight up killers. And I'm not like that. I remember thinking like, oh man, I will never 04:18:35.110 --> 04:18:41.550 be like that. And, you know, unfortunately, those, those are the kind of guys that still 04:18:41.550 --> 04:18:44.750 do this whole military industrial complex thing. They love war. 04:18:48.410 --> 04:18:54.310 Yeah, man, that's that's one of the darkest shit. Like, when Ashley told me about Vietnam, 04:18:54.830 --> 04:19:02.750 I didn't know much. So I started, as y'all know, I'm a garbage man. So I just started 04:19:02.750 --> 04:19:09.810 listening to all kinds of Vietnam related shit. During my fucking 12, 13 hour days, 04:19:09.850 --> 04:19:13.810 which is boom, listening to this, listening to them like, God damn, 04:19:14.570 --> 04:19:21.330 there's so fucking much I never even knew. And then I started reminiscing about 04:19:23.890 --> 04:19:29.350 people that I knew that I that I'd run across that was Vietnam vets. 04:19:30.370 --> 04:19:35.650 I started the show telling Ashley that when I was playing football as a little kid, 04:19:37.410 --> 04:19:44.670 one of my fucking football coaches, he was his jacked dude. He was like 40 years old. 04:19:45.550 --> 04:19:50.290 He would always get intense. And we and we were kids. So we would look at him like, 04:19:51.290 --> 04:19:53.370 motherfuckers crazy. What the fuck is wrong with them? 04:19:54.830 --> 04:19:58.770 Now that I'm older, I'm like, oh, shit, he was a Vietnam vet. That's why 04:19:59.350 --> 04:20:07.930 but he would line us up and do the fucking squads. He'd fucking yell it, dude, like his 04:20:07.930 --> 04:20:13.770 fucking veins in his neck would be popping out in his fucking for it. Damn, what the fuck is 04:20:13.770 --> 04:20:18.250 this track you're talking about? Saigon squads? Where the fuck? What the fuck does the Saigon 04:20:18.250 --> 04:20:24.590 even mean? I had no idea. I was ignorant and oblivious to the situation. It's not that 04:20:24.590 --> 04:20:30.410 now that I'm older. I'm like, oh, shit, Saigon is a fucking place in Vietnam. 04:20:31.850 --> 04:20:40.290 This motherfucker probably saw some crazy ass shit. So we're here as kids making fun of him, 04:20:40.850 --> 04:20:45.490 but the motherfucker probably sees some shit. I don't know if that made any sense on that little 04:20:45.490 --> 04:20:50.390 ramp. But yeah, man, it's how could you know? I mean, and that's the thing is like getting 04:20:50.390 --> 04:20:55.110 new information and looking at it from a new lens in that way. But kids don't know. 04:20:55.310 --> 04:21:00.830 Kids don't have an understanding for what the post-Vietnam syndrome looks like. 04:21:02.670 --> 04:21:09.430 Well, we're breaking some grounds now in the form of what they call PTSD, post-traumatic stress. 04:21:12.950 --> 04:21:17.210 Anybody who goes to war is going to have some type of post-traumatic stress. That is 04:21:17.210 --> 04:21:21.850 because it's not natural to do these things to other people. It's not natural to go to combat like 04:21:21.850 --> 04:21:34.990 this all the time. They have PTSD from that. I was never one of those guys where I would wake 04:21:34.990 --> 04:21:39.520 up at night and scream and shit like that. I never had nightmares or anything. But what I 04:21:39.520 --> 04:21:49.420 can say, the first time I experienced the emotional, a big anxiety attack, was it was one day I had 04:21:49.420 --> 04:21:55.720 jumped out of my vehicle to pull apart an IED that what my friend didn't see, but I saw it. 04:21:56.240 --> 04:22:00.860 And when I thought about that afterwards, it wasn't, you know, I survived. He survived. 04:22:01.140 --> 04:22:07.820 I disarmed the bomb. But when I got home or back to my bay, my barracks, I remember laying 04:22:07.820 --> 04:22:12.580 in bed and I thought to myself, oh, shit, I could have died. There could have been another dude 04:22:13.180 --> 04:22:17.600 on that other end of the telephone and you could have just made that call and boom, I'd be gone. 04:22:18.180 --> 04:22:23.460 And that I got a real big panic attack. I started sweating and I thought, wait a minute, 04:22:23.700 --> 04:22:30.600 I'm here in my room. It didn't happen. I didn't die. And so I overcame that. But so when I 04:22:30.600 --> 04:22:37.000 was told that I should get PTSD looked at in 2019, I was like, I don't got PTSD, man. 04:22:37.000 --> 04:22:41.520 My buddy's like, no, do you check this out? And he explained this to me very well. 04:22:43.040 --> 04:22:48.140 The deer or the antelope out in the wild, right? It's just doing its thing. When the predator 04:22:48.140 --> 04:22:53.940 comes along, the lion comes and chases it, that fight or fight happens, boom, it escapes, right? 04:22:54.380 --> 04:23:02.100 There's that rise in stress levels. And once they outrun the predator, they look around and 04:23:02.100 --> 04:23:04.920 they're just like, oh, shit, predator's gone. And they just go back to doing their thing. 04:23:04.920 --> 04:23:10.300 They don't sweat it. Whereas I was going to war. I was working up. I was doing like 04:23:11.280 --> 04:23:16.320 18 month work or like a year long workup. I deployed for six months. And then 04:23:16.920 --> 04:23:20.520 when I come back, I get two weeks off and then I'm back in the grind again, 04:23:20.760 --> 04:23:27.860 ready for getting ready for another war, another combat mission. And so my stress 04:23:27.860 --> 04:23:31.260 levels never went down. They always stayed up in the red. I was always in the red. 04:23:31.260 --> 04:23:35.520 And it affected me. It affected my marriage. It affected my relationship with my kids. 04:23:36.480 --> 04:23:40.840 And I can look back now and say that, yeah, I do suffer from PTSD. 04:23:43.940 --> 04:23:49.860 You think awareness and appreciation of such things has improved since the Iraq and Afghanistan 04:23:50.680 --> 04:23:57.320 wars? That's for sure. I just wanted to say one quick thing to all of you. Chris, 04:23:57.320 --> 04:24:02.000 your audio is much better and there doesn't seem to be a delay issue now. So you're ready to go 04:24:02.000 --> 04:24:06.860 for the rest of it. Weezy, I'm going to dip back into the chat and say hello to my friends. 04:24:07.280 --> 04:24:12.740 So thanks for having me. And Ashley, it was lovely to spend a little bit of airtime with 04:24:12.740 --> 04:24:16.780 you. It really was. And I'll see you on the next, you know, whatever it is you do. 04:24:17.500 --> 04:24:20.060 Yeah, you too. Thank you so much. It was a great time with you. 04:24:20.920 --> 04:24:23.360 Oh, Ashley, you're goddess, bro. Don't be a bitch. 04:24:25.360 --> 04:24:28.740 Love you all, lads. I'll see you around soon. Thank you, Carl. 04:24:29.320 --> 04:24:31.260 99. Take care, Carl. 04:24:34.300 --> 04:24:36.220 Yeah, it's intense shit, man. 04:24:39.320 --> 04:24:44.680 When I started doing research into the Phoenix program, I was like, God damn. 04:24:44.680 --> 04:24:51.940 Um, no wonder we were never taught this. This is dark shit. It's very dark. 04:24:52.140 --> 04:25:00.800 This is horrific shit. This is shit that our government did and ordered and executed. 04:25:03.760 --> 04:25:06.600 Rhetorically speaking, and literally. 04:25:08.140 --> 04:25:12.720 Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but correct me if I'm wrong, but one of one of the big 04:25:12.720 --> 04:25:16.820 things that they had against JFK at the time, too, was he didn't want to go to war in Vietnam. 04:25:18.420 --> 04:25:25.000 Yeah, Ashley brought that up earlier, but I in a kind way, I rebutted. I'm like, 04:25:26.400 --> 04:25:34.660 that's one narrative that some people will propose that got JFK killed was because he, 04:25:34.660 --> 04:25:39.480 you know, his opposition to Vietnam. But what people feel realized is that 04:25:39.480 --> 04:25:45.620 under JFK, the CIA grew from 900 to 20,000. 04:25:47.040 --> 04:25:52.140 So under his watch, a lot of fucking bullshit happened. So 04:25:53.080 --> 04:25:56.720 personally speaking, I don't ascribe to the 04:25:57.300 --> 04:26:03.200 to the mentality that JFK was oblivious or did not know what was going on. He fucking knew. 04:26:05.080 --> 04:26:10.160 So yeah, that may be a different take than most people, but that's just the way I feel about it. 04:26:10.200 --> 04:26:15.220 Well, because what they said about what they said about JFK, one of these also got him there, 04:26:15.300 --> 04:26:21.620 was that because he was going to decrease the CIA and and Alan Dulles was like not going to have 04:26:21.620 --> 04:26:28.920 that. And so there's there's that talk about whether he was taken out by, you know, these 04:26:28.920 --> 04:26:34.280 three letter agency, you know, the Stooges. And so that that could be a thing too. 04:26:35.740 --> 04:26:41.920 But the Vietnam, like again, like just like Ashley said, it was a testing ground because 04:26:41.920 --> 04:26:45.760 that's where they started doing a lot of the and Greg mentioned this earlier too in the chat 04:26:46.280 --> 04:26:50.460 of Operation Popeye, you know, whether they were causing monsoon, they were controlling 04:26:50.460 --> 04:26:54.500 the weather. And there's that one video whether people want to talk about climate change, 04:26:54.500 --> 04:26:59.820 it's not a real thing or maybe even the weather is not a real thing. There's a video where 04:27:02.800 --> 04:27:08.080 Johnson, he's given a speech to an alma mater and he's saying, we now have the ability to 04:27:08.080 --> 04:27:13.220 control the weather and he who controls the weather controls the world. Like he says that, 04:27:13.440 --> 04:27:18.480 you know, like, and they tested it out there in Vietnam. And that's where I think we get 04:27:18.480 --> 04:27:24.420 all these hurricanes and shit like that from. It was a huge testing ground for so many things 04:27:24.420 --> 04:27:28.000 yes I'm glad he brought that up because that was something that I did not even touch on 04:27:28.000 --> 04:27:35.280 is Operation Popeye. And the other thing that would be valuable to compile is all of the 04:27:35.280 --> 04:27:42.200 operations that were run during Vietnam because there were so many and it was very wide ranging. 04:27:42.680 --> 04:27:48.620 For example, Popeye, because that was trying to make the monsoon worse and cause more rain. 04:27:48.620 --> 04:27:55.380 And then so there's so many operations on so many different topics and it is really valuable. 04:27:55.500 --> 04:28:01.940 And I do truly think that this was a testing ground and basically to Douglas Valentine's 04:28:01.940 --> 04:28:07.840 point to lead to where we're at today with the surveillance state. And there are so many 04:28:07.840 --> 04:28:12.620 of the things that we see throughout history that were done straight out of the playbook 04:28:13.340 --> 04:28:19.160 in Vietnam. And that includes starting to you know, like I was talking about the almost the 04:28:19.160 --> 04:28:25.960 build back better narrative the rural to city life and on and on we go they're reducing the 04:28:25.960 --> 04:28:30.260 population there so so many things that could be extrapolated to what we see today. 04:28:31.160 --> 04:28:36.200 Well, you brought that up and I brought this up too early in the chat was that 04:28:36.200 --> 04:28:41.840 now if you go back to Thomas Malthus in 17 the late 1700s Thomas Malthus he's writing about 04:28:42.620 --> 04:28:47.420 his principle on the principles on the 04:28:49.300 --> 04:28:57.360 what is it population principles on population and basically what he says in there is one way 04:28:57.360 --> 04:29:02.600 to control population is by having wars by sending people to war and you kill people off. 04:29:02.880 --> 04:29:07.500 And so that was also one one of the forms that they use for eugenics and population control 04:29:07.500 --> 04:29:18.800 is war. 100% and that is something that I think with World War II this was huge. I mean they were 04:29:18.800 --> 04:29:23.340 able to and it and here's the other thing is it's not just population control from removing 04:29:23.340 --> 04:29:31.280 people it is removing fighting age men from the population so this is people that could 04:29:31.280 --> 04:29:36.960 get married that could have a family that could potentially mount a resistance 04:29:37.800 --> 04:29:43.840 and you completely took them off the chessboard and the ones that you didn't send back in a 04:29:43.840 --> 04:29:50.460 body bag so many of them came back with debilitating issues from what they experienced there from 04:29:50.460 --> 04:29:56.180 being conscripted against their will from seeing their friends be blown up from being from knowing 04:29:56.180 --> 04:30:02.640 that they were being used as bait I mean the the trauma for those people alone is significant 04:30:03.430 --> 04:30:08.580 and then you add in the the trauma that they put the American people through so not only 04:30:08.580 --> 04:30:13.720 were you running the risk of having your own child conscripted into the war if they were 04:30:13.720 --> 04:30:18.900 the terror that these people felt knowing that their child was over in in this country 04:30:18.900 --> 04:30:24.780 and what could happen to them and then the other thing is that they showed the stuff 04:30:24.780 --> 04:30:30.620 like what Weezy had brought up in our show or in earlier today that this was televised 04:30:31.380 --> 04:30:38.600 that was intentional they wanted people to see this they wanted this element of fear this tension 04:30:38.600 --> 04:30:43.760 or the strategy of tension of people sitting in front of their television every single day 04:30:43.760 --> 04:30:50.260 watching the latest news about Vietnam and how many people were how many soldiers died 04:30:51.200 --> 04:30:56.440 so just so many things that they were able to do but absolutely to your point population control 04:30:56.440 --> 04:31:03.400 I 100% believe was a very big piece of this and one quick thing that I also didn't bring up earlier 04:31:03.400 --> 04:31:09.540 is that if you ever listen to Chuck O'Chillie Chuck O'Chillie is a big JFK researcher right 04:31:09.540 --> 04:31:15.600 he has the O'Chillie effect and he he was on our show Union the Unknowns a couple years ago 04:31:16.340 --> 04:31:22.540 and we had the conversation of JFK's assassination 60 years later why does this still matter 04:31:22.540 --> 04:31:28.900 and one of Chuck's stories that he talks about on our show is the fact that he was the child 04:31:28.900 --> 04:31:35.260 of a Vietnam veteran who was a very troubled man and I if I recall correctly his father 04:31:35.260 --> 04:31:40.080 ended up committing suicide and it was something that affected him for the rest of his life 04:31:40.080 --> 04:31:47.380 and so and so these these things continue on the the trauma and the devastation 04:31:47.380 --> 04:32:06.530 is not gone just because this happened in the 60s and 70s 100% yeah you know I think 04:32:07.110 --> 04:32:14.890 you know part of the big D2 is is they're destroying the family and we separate a family 04:32:15.450 --> 04:32:19.250 member like a father and they're supposed to be there taking care of his wife and his children 04:32:19.250 --> 04:32:23.890 and send them off to war and he experiences some bad shit and comes back and all years 04:32:23.890 --> 04:32:30.050 to have marrow problems shit like that like or maybe doesn't come back at all or comes back main 04:32:30.050 --> 04:32:36.990 like they truly destroyed the family unit and this is one way that they do it you know because 04:32:36.990 --> 04:32:41.430 they know the effects of war men men men were not meant to go to war worse than happening 04:32:41.430 --> 04:32:46.970 all the phenol but we're not meant to kill each other you know we're meant to live 04:32:46.970 --> 04:32:53.770 we're meant to be prosperous and multiply you know and you know unfortunately war does have to 04:32:53.770 --> 04:32:59.510 happen I'm not saying that it doesn't but it goes back to that book you know 1984 and I love this 04:32:59.510 --> 04:33:04.270 part it's so real you know where he's like I don't know how long we've been where I don't 04:33:04.270 --> 04:33:09.390 know if we've ever not been at war and that's true like all these wars that are happening right 04:33:09.390 --> 04:33:14.230 now these conflicts they didn't have to happen they really did that people really died in 04:33:14.230 --> 04:33:18.990 Vietnam but it didn't have to happen they used just like you said we see the goba talk in bullshit 04:33:18.990 --> 04:33:26.090 to get us into the war same thing with the Lusitania to get us into World War one and and this is how 04:33:26.090 --> 04:33:34.950 they do it 911 got us into war bro like this shit goes further and further it's not something 04:33:34.950 --> 04:33:46.490 known under the sun it's been change repeat and rinse or think change and repeat over and over throughout 04:33:47.410 --> 04:33:53.250 yeah decades and centuries or psyops war crimes and repeat yeah 04:33:59.670 --> 04:34:01.510 hell yeah 04:34:01.510 --> 04:34:09.710 yeah and you're bringing up the um Mexican-American war I think probably if we started digging in to 04:34:09.710 --> 04:34:16.430 almost any any of these conflicts we're going to see the playbook that would be my guess 04:34:16.430 --> 04:34:23.270 and we know that the the fallout from Vietnam this led to their meddling in Latin America 04:34:23.270 --> 04:34:29.550 and we we know that we're still meddling in Latin America we are still blowing up people 04:34:29.550 --> 04:34:35.390 as we speak we're still blaming cartels that are propped up by the same 04:34:35.950 --> 04:34:43.470 intelligence agencies as we speak yeah how is that any different than the phoenix project 04:34:44.470 --> 04:34:52.410 where a Vietnamese farmer he's out farming he's growing his rice patties there's a curfew 04:34:52.410 --> 04:34:57.950 to be in by 6 p.m. but he doesn't have no fucking clock he's just working the fucking farms 04:34:58.670 --> 04:35:01.790 oh shit it's 601 that's blow this motherfucker up 04:35:03.370 --> 04:35:12.110 and now in 2025 you got some motherfuckers riding in boats oh they're they're dealing drugs they're in 04:35:12.110 --> 04:35:21.770 boats let's fucking chop them up same fucking shit different era people don't fucking get it man 04:35:22.510 --> 04:35:28.450 yeah 100% and one of the things that we talk oh sorry Chris let me get this out real quick one of 04:35:28.450 --> 04:35:33.450 the things that we were talking about earlier today on nights and maybe have mentioned it here 04:35:34.090 --> 04:35:41.710 but when they have operations so we were talking about the mind control and MK ultra so that started 04:35:41.710 --> 04:35:47.650 as bluebird then it was artichoke then it was MK ultra and we know that there's many different 04:35:47.650 --> 04:35:51.770 subsets to the different experiments that they were performing on people so a lot of different 04:35:52.770 --> 04:35:59.070 operations but just to say that they change the names of these programs but that doesn't 04:35:59.070 --> 04:36:04.830 mean that the program changed they do it to obscure the their their paper trail and make 04:36:04.830 --> 04:36:09.630 it more difficult for people to look into it and to find records and find documentation 04:36:10.590 --> 04:36:16.630 so that is a trick that they use and when you mention how is what is happening and has been 04:36:16.630 --> 04:36:20.770 happening in Latin America different than Operation Phoenix I don't think that it is 04:36:20.770 --> 04:36:27.050 because what they I mean maybe they were saying at that time that they were using this strategy 04:36:27.050 --> 04:36:35.750 in order to eliminate the connections and the conversations and the help that the regular 04:36:35.750 --> 04:36:40.910 you know like that the peasants were doing or give the help that the peasants were giving 04:36:40.910 --> 04:36:48.430 to the Viet Cong and but we know that it was a terror campaign we know that that aligns with at 04:36:48.430 --> 04:36:54.030 least somewhere on a Venn diagram with Operation Gladio we know that they ran similar things here 04:36:54.030 --> 04:36:58.790 we know that there was this fear campaign after Oklahoma City there's this fear campaign 04:36:59.470 --> 04:37:04.470 regarding school shootings there's a fear campaign regarding terrorism after 9-11 all of 04:37:04.470 --> 04:37:09.690 these things and that it's always used to continue to move us into that direction of 04:37:09.690 --> 04:37:16.550 exactly what they stated in Vietnam from the rural to the city because they want to keep an eye on 04:37:16.550 --> 04:37:29.550 people so so many of these things are you know yeah yeah it just gets repeated and I think 04:37:29.550 --> 04:37:37.230 that's why I cover a lot of these topics a lot of the shit I mean it should be clear if you 04:37:37.230 --> 04:37:47.270 learn of what has transpired before your time and you see it happening again you won't be susceptible 04:37:47.870 --> 04:37:54.330 so the next time they try to roll out oh shit COVID is out here you need to get a fucking jab 04:37:54.930 --> 04:38:03.450 you're gonna say fuck you that's that's the point of this show it's not for any other bullshit 04:38:03.450 --> 04:38:10.970 it's to say fuck you I ain't getting no fucking jab your mother fucking lying scumbags I really 04:38:10.970 --> 04:38:16.590 know you play fuck you get the fuck out of here with that shit easy I was so that's the point of 04:38:16.590 --> 04:38:20.490 the show easy I wanted to say this too in relation to what you're talking about I remember 04:38:20.490 --> 04:38:29.090 back in 2012 2013 I was still involved in the Iraq stuff now so my my deployment cycles are set up 04:38:29.090 --> 04:38:37.550 to go to CentCon which is out there in the Middle East and then uh because Navy EOD we can go with 04:38:37.550 --> 04:38:42.570 different groups and there was a group of guys that got tasked to go to be with the special 04:38:42.570 --> 04:38:49.250 operations dudes in South America and I thought what's going on in South America and I thought 04:38:49.250 --> 04:38:52.630 wow why would anybody want to go to South America because there's nothing going on there 04:38:53.190 --> 04:38:58.270 we're fighting a war and people are getting you know getting after it in the Middle East 04:38:58.270 --> 04:39:03.390 you know why do we have a special operations team going down to South America so they've been doing 04:39:03.390 --> 04:39:08.390 this for a long time and that's what we're seeing on today that they're doing in South America 04:39:09.610 --> 04:39:14.230 oh yeah then we got Ashley looking like Mariah Carey over here 04:39:16.630 --> 04:39:23.810 and that's a that's a that's a compliment you're muted right now oh I said just wait till 04:39:23.810 --> 04:39:30.810 I start singing uh all I want for Christmas oh no don't do that I'm already in what I want 04:39:30.810 --> 04:39:40.050 for Christmas out not um yeah we're hitting up on five hours god damn it went quick because 04:39:40.610 --> 04:39:46.950 we were just talking about some hard hitting shit and um every now and then I get some people that 04:39:46.950 --> 04:39:56.270 will say who listens to this fucking shit well fucking most people do motherfucker you complaining 04:39:56.270 --> 04:40:02.770 about a long show like this you are the anomaly motherfucker most people enjoy the 04:40:02.770 --> 04:40:08.050 shit makes their days go quicker you know what I mean if you got five hours of shit to listen to 04:40:08.790 --> 04:40:14.710 and you got an eight hour 10 hour work shift that's half your day right there so 04:40:15.670 --> 04:40:19.670 yeah do you know and and someone someone said it started in the chat earlier too that um 04:40:20.410 --> 04:40:24.670 we're we're we're friends we're talking we're just kind of shooting the shit but but we're 04:40:24.670 --> 04:40:29.670 we're bringing out really hardcore stuff this is stuff that so it keeps it it keeps the 04:40:29.670 --> 04:40:34.170 conversation relevant we're not just shooting the shit you know like on Saturday anarchy where 04:40:34.170 --> 04:40:40.930 they just talk shit they do get a good stuff there too and I'm I'm a part of that group 04:40:40.930 --> 04:40:48.050 I disagree with that last part my boy's there but um but but I disagree with the last part 04:40:48.050 --> 04:40:53.410 oh I was with you until that last part I'm just kidding what we're talking relevant stuff and I 04:40:53.410 --> 04:41:02.910 think this keeps the conversation going yeah I mean all jokes aside yeah that like I just stated 04:41:03.530 --> 04:41:11.750 the reason I do the show is because it's it's several prongs worth it gets people 04:41:13.090 --> 04:41:19.610 prepared for when the government tries to pull some fucking fast ones oh shit I heard Ashley 04:41:19.610 --> 04:41:26.530 on the Woodish Truth podcast talking about Vietnam and Operation or the Phoenix Project 04:41:27.330 --> 04:41:32.510 fuck this shit I ain't going with it man hell yeah that's the reason for the show 04:41:33.190 --> 04:41:39.350 other reason for the show another valid reason in my opinion that someone that can relate 04:41:41.210 --> 04:41:45.490 is for all the people that work and only listen to podcasts while they work 04:41:45.990 --> 04:41:51.150 you got five hours of shit you know I'm saying that's another reason to do the show 04:41:51.910 --> 04:41:56.510 another reason to do the show is because it helps me distract myself 04:41:58.030 --> 04:42:04.770 and I enjoy it and you guys enjoy it and that's it so very multi-pronged approach 04:42:04.770 --> 04:42:10.570 that we take here and I want to thank Ashley I'm gonna push her to get her own podcast 04:42:10.570 --> 04:42:16.430 I think she should do it she'll kick ass if she already has her little fans that will 04:42:16.430 --> 04:42:22.470 gravitate to it and that's badass once you already have a little bait you don't you don't 04:42:22.470 --> 04:42:26.950 you don't even have your own podcast you already have a little a little group a little following 04:42:26.950 --> 04:42:34.130 that makes shit a lot easier that way so that's badass um and I want to thank Chris for calling 04:42:34.130 --> 04:42:42.590 in I mean Chris is uh he's put in his military work and he now identifies the way we see 04:42:42.590 --> 04:42:50.590 shit that war is a racket like Smith v. Butler said a hundred years ago war is a motherfucking racket 04:42:51.690 --> 04:42:56.110 and so it's awesome to get all these perspectives I hope everyone enjoyed it 04:42:56.990 --> 04:43:04.510 any last words women and gentlemen yeah I just want to chime in I want to thank everybody in 04:43:04.510 --> 04:43:10.010 the chat I wasn't looking or responding back when we were talking about you know most of the 04:43:10.010 --> 04:43:15.970 subject because I have been stressing so hard all week I wanted to focus I wanted to you know 04:43:15.970 --> 04:43:21.030 make sense get my points out but I really appreciate it thank you wheezy so much for having me on 04:43:21.030 --> 04:43:28.650 today I have really enjoyed it I really appreciate it and um I was very happy to get the invite 04:43:28.650 --> 04:43:34.570 to come on today and uh so I appreciate it so much uh Chris it was great talking to you 04:43:34.570 --> 04:43:40.570 Carl great talking to you as well so I just want to say thank you appreciate it absolutely 04:43:40.570 --> 04:43:48.730 no the pleasure was mine I mean we're already at like 1500 rumble views and then we still got to 04:43:48.730 --> 04:43:54.830 put it on these other platforms so people enjoyed this I know they're gonna enjoy it it's a topic 04:43:54.830 --> 04:44:01.130 that doesn't get talked about I didn't know much about it and when you brought it up I was 04:44:02.030 --> 04:44:07.550 yeah I chimed in maybe brought up some good points but that was because 04:44:09.050 --> 04:44:13.890 you bringing it up and making me do homework and and research you know what I'm saying yeah you did 04:44:13.890 --> 04:44:19.210 your homework yeah that was great and one one last thing I do want to say thank you so much to 04:44:19.210 --> 04:44:24.630 my friend wizard I know I already mentioned that but um he really helped me a lot in going 04:44:24.630 --> 04:44:28.910 over this information and talking things out and helping me kind of get a game plan together 04:44:28.910 --> 04:44:33.950 and took a lot of his time to do that and go back through his notes and and things like that so 04:44:33.950 --> 04:44:41.550 I'm very appreciative of that as well oh yeah truth very you got any last words before we uh 04:44:41.550 --> 04:44:47.690 do the book gauntlet no man just uh you know again can't thank you enough for having a good uh 04:44:49.050 --> 04:44:55.950 good uh outlet you know you got a good channel um people love it we know this from the chat 04:44:55.950 --> 04:45:01.090 like we know this from the feedback like haters are out there but that's just what it is man I don't 04:45:01.090 --> 04:45:07.750 even care bro fuck the haters if you're a hater bro sit on this bitch and grind on it motherfuckers 04:45:07.750 --> 04:45:12.570 well yeah you know and I just wanted to say this too like um you know you're doing your thing and 04:45:13.130 --> 04:45:17.370 thank you for having opening the chat for myself to come on I'm a nobody I don't do 04:45:17.370 --> 04:45:22.410 shit I'm not I'm just you're my homie well that's all that matters to me I'm a regular 04:45:22.410 --> 04:45:28.570 guide so yeah but I'm just a regular motherfucking garbage man bro it ain't like I ain't no motherfucking 04:45:28.570 --> 04:45:35.450 special yeah but so what but here's the cool thing though is that regular garbage men having deep 04:45:35.990 --> 04:45:40.470 discussions like this like who would have thought of that right like you know like 04:45:40.470 --> 04:45:46.850 I never thought it I just did it you know that's all yeah yeah thanks man I never thought anyone 04:45:46.850 --> 04:45:52.350 would listen to this shit like when I first recorded my first episodes all those years ago 04:45:52.970 --> 04:45:58.770 I was like I'm gonna talk shit into a microphone if one or two people listen I'll be fucking badass 04:46:00.350 --> 04:46:07.950 and one or two people did listen and I'm like goddamn okay I'll keep going now it's gone from 04:46:07.950 --> 04:46:19.330 one to two people to fucking several thousand I'm like goddamn that's badass I I uh I don't take that 04:46:19.330 --> 04:46:27.370 lightly I love it and I call people my followers and I shouldn't have said that I don't view y'all 04:46:27.370 --> 04:46:33.850 as followers of you y'all vibe with my my way of doing things I know there's I know most of you 04:46:33.850 --> 04:46:40.110 enjoy the topics but there's a big part of you that say I enjoy the topics I just don't like the custom 04:46:42.290 --> 04:46:45.270 fuck you first of all um 04:46:49.950 --> 04:46:55.370 this special shout outs to the motherfuckers that roll with the content irregardless 04:46:55.930 --> 04:47:01.930 of what I cover irregardless of what language I use irregardless of anything else 04:47:01.930 --> 04:47:07.690 you may agree with me sometimes you may disagree with me this motherfucking shout outs for y'all 04:47:08.390 --> 04:47:13.430 and I want to that's a heartfelt one because y'all is the truth motherfuckers fuck all the 04:47:13.430 --> 04:47:18.310 motherfucking bitches that cry about this cry about that fuck all them I don't care about them 04:47:18.310 --> 04:47:26.290 man fuck y'all I care about you people that accept me for who I am for what the show is about 04:47:26.290 --> 04:47:33.470 I don't do echo chambers I had someone cry I had someone leave me comments you talk to Jeff 04:47:33.470 --> 04:47:39.530 Burwick fuck you wheezy I'm never I'm unsubscribing right now fuck you you pussy ass faggot 04:47:41.590 --> 04:47:47.690 that's all I can say because I'm gonna do shit that I fucking want to do 04:47:49.050 --> 04:47:54.890 and the people that can vibe with me I'm not asking you to agree with me or even vibe with 04:47:54.890 --> 04:48:02.290 my guests I'm not asking you for that I'm just asking you to vibe with freedom of speech 04:48:03.750 --> 04:48:09.450 and if you don't vibe with that fuck you if you vibe with it and you disagree with me 04:48:10.750 --> 04:48:16.890 this shout outs for you and so it was a long ass shout out but I think I railed on 04:48:16.890 --> 04:48:22.290 all the haters last week too much and I gave them too much energy too much light 04:48:23.050 --> 04:48:30.650 when I in reality the thing I should be doing is praising the motherfuckers that appreciate the shit 04:48:31.910 --> 04:48:34.930 that's what I should be focusing on and that's what I'm doing right now 04:48:34.930 --> 04:48:42.150 so this is a long shout out but this shout out is for y'all because y'all are you guys 04:48:42.150 --> 04:48:47.190 are the reason why I keep doing the show weekend and week out fuck all the motherfucking cry babies 04:48:47.690 --> 04:48:54.110 y'all are the ones I do the shit for and y'all get this mad fucking love right now so that's what's up 04:48:55.810 --> 04:49:04.110 that being said thank you Ashley thank you Chris you guys are homies you guys have my 04:49:05.710 --> 04:49:09.710 number and as I stated before I only give my numbers to people that I trust 04:49:10.830 --> 04:49:17.650 um I don't give my number out to anyone so uh I do trust you Ashley I do trust you Chris 04:49:19.230 --> 04:49:25.150 you guys are genuine that's why I enjoy having you guys on same thing with Carl Carl's in the 04:49:25.150 --> 04:49:30.550 live chat right now chatting away Carl's a good dude Carl's a straight up good dude so 04:49:32.930 --> 04:49:36.810 long ass shout outs to end the show to the motherfuckers that really do count 04:49:36.810 --> 04:49:43.150 all the haters don't count fuck them all the real ones fuck them and you guys deserve the 04:49:43.150 --> 04:49:46.830 shit and that's what's up all right y'all much love hugs and