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As you and I both know, the MAHA movement, before it was even coined MAHA, it took decades

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and it incorporated a lot of different viewpoints from informed consent, medical freedom, vaccinations,

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pesticides, fluoride, and that movement really culminated over the last couple of years

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and we're seeing kind of what's been happening with that.

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But there's another movement happening.

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It's coming out of nowhere and it has a MAHA feel to it from my point of view

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and it's the push back against data centers.

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And it's going on all over America right now and why America is the hotbed?

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Well, it can be explained in this graph right here.

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It's because America throughout the entire world has the most data centers.

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By far, you're talking over 4,000, not even close in second and third places,

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UK and Germany, little over 500, and then China, who we're being told we're fighting against

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to have supremacy for AI, they're not even anywhere close to this.

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There are 300, 400 something data centers.

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So I don't know where that argument's coming from that we're fighting China for supremacy.

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It seems like from that chart, we already have it.

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But in the real counties and cities across America, something is happening right now

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and it's happened very quickly.

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It's been boiling under the surface.

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Here's a headline here out of The Guardian titled Irresponsible.

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Backlash as Utah approves data center twice the size of Manhattan goes on to say this.

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A plan to create one of the largest data centers, a gargantuan project

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expanding an area more than twice the size of Manhattan has provoked a furious public

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backlash in Utah amid concerns over a vast energy use and impact upon the state's

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stress water supply.

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The facility will require 9 gigawatts of power, which is more than the entire state

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of Utah currently consumes and suck up a significant amount of water in the area

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that has been hit by severe drought in recent years.

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Now, when people see those numbers like 9 gigawatts, I think you and I talked

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about this, you're saying what kind of time frame is that?

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It's basically like, from my understanding, it's like a light bulb.

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It requires 100 watt light bulb.

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It takes 100 watts to just run, to operate.

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And when this data center particularly gets going and it's full capacity,

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it's 9 gigawatts to turn it on.

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It just uses it.

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And then the water consumption is really for the majority of that is for the gas

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plants, the natural gas plants that are going to be firing this thing up and using

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this, the cooling systems anywhere from about 2 to 16 billion gallons of water per year

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are a couple of independent analyses.

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So it's more of the energy because the actual data centers are typically closed

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loop water systems.

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They still use a ton of water, but it's the consumption of the energy for these,

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the gas, the natural gas powered oil systems for this.

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But we have Kevin O'Leary.

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He is backing this, O'Leary Digital.

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And he's funding this project called The Stratus Project in Box Elder County, Utah.

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He was recently sitting down with Tucker Carlson and he had this to say, take a listen.

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Even the people in Box Elder, the majority of them want me to hold my shovel and start digging.

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And that's basically the debate we're having.

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How do you know that?

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Because they voted for it unanimously before the Chinese guys.

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There was a referendum?

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Like all this crap that's being spewed out.

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Wait, wait, it's all done.

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Yeah, and I may have fallen for some of it.

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So you correct me.

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There was a referendum among citizens or did some like county board vote?

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We actually went through the whole process that you have to do by their laws and were

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granted three to zero.

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The commissioners of the county said, we want to be part of this.

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So three people voted.

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The people of the county.

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The elected officials.

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That's how you do it.

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How hard is it for Kevin O'Leary and Amazon and Microsoft and Google to subvert three

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county commissioners in rural Utah?

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Tucker, they voted.

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They asked us to come.

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They asked us to bring $15 billion.

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They asked and they voted and it was a three to zero vote.

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That's how it happened.

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There's no other way to do it.

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And Kevin O'Leary got three county commissioners in rural Utah on their side.

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Good work.

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But can I just ask you really quick, like why don't you have a referendum?

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Why don't you let all citizens, all taxpayers, the ones who are paying for your project,

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why don't they get to pay a vote?

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Well, listen, the whole idea of expediting it was so the project didn't go to Jacksonville,

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Mississippi.

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That's the competition.

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And so the government there said, okay, look, we've done because we haven't lost.

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We haven't lost our, we have to go through EPA.

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We have to go through air and quality.

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We have to go through the water permitting.

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We have to go through the land construction permitting.

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Nothing's been lost.

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There's no circumventing the process.

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Once again, it's a really amazing debate.

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I watched some of that and I think Tucker Carlson's bringing up really good points.

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And on the other side, you have this keeping up the Joneses between America and China

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and for what?

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I think it's the big question.

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For what gain?

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What does this do?

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Where are we going?

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Do we want this?

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In those funding, these data centers, they're looking for ways around what Tucker's talking

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about there.

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Here's a headline, AI data centers are targeting unincorporated rural areas to

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bypass growing bans and regulations.

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So they don't want to play fair.

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They don't want to work like the rest of a corporation has to.

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They're just doing this at the best way they can, the easiest entry point.

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And people like Lake Tahoe, really, this is the high water market of injustice.

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Here's the headline here.

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Nearly 50,000 Lake Tahoe residents have to find a new power source after their

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energy source looks to redirect lines to data centers.

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So we thought it was bad because customers in these small towns,

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their energy bills increased because they had to pay for the data center energy.

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But now Lake Tahoe residents are being told, just figure it out on your own,

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find something new.

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We're taking this, says the data centers.

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But Tucker Carlson mentioned a referendum for the people to vote.

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We reported on this about a month ago.

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Wisconsin was the first in basically the country, the nation's first,

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to have an anti-data center referendum.

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So now people there will be able to vote, not just three to zero county officials.

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So that looks like something that's going to be replicated.

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It's very easy to replicate it.

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But like I was talking about this across the board,

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this bipartisan movement that's happening, it's very quickly.

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In New Jersey, you have this 60, 60 plus groups just called on New Jersey governor

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to immediately pause all AI data center projects.

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It's cut across everything, environmental, labor, community organizations.

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They're all in here, bipartisan support, Democrats, Republicans.

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And this is now leading into the political race for the midterms,

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but also possibly for the presidency.

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This is going to be a major conversation talking point.

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And one of the people that has been out front before this was really popular

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has been Ron DeSantis in Florida.

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He just signed SB 484.

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DeSantis signs bill regulating cost, water, use tied to large data centers in Florida.

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So is this preserving the local government's authority over these data centers?

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It's protecting the water supply and it's capping the electricity bill.

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So the consumers will not have to pay for this.

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It seems like common sense, but that's Ron DeSantis.

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And other Republicans and Democrats are also jumping into this fray to apparently gain support

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because this is a major American issue now.

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Here's one out of Virginia.

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Republicans prioritize data centers in attempt to flip House seat in Prince William County.

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Then we have Pennsylvania AI data center backlash threatens Pennsylvania GOP incumbents in 2026

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election. Georgia's battleground races give a first look at a brewing political storm.

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It says a multi-billion dollar data center boom is provoking a bipartisan backlash in

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one of the nation's most pivotal political battlegrounds.

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Public opposition to this growth is starting to bleed into local and state elections,

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including a competitive governor's race and a Senate contest that could help

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decide the balance of power in Washington.

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Meanwhile, leading Republicans and Democrats in the state are still trying to find their footing

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on the issue, even as strategists and party officials on both sides of the aisle warn that

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it's becoming impossible to ignore.

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Think about when the MAHA polling, the really the artificial polling saying

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you can ignore vaccines until after the midterms because it's toxic.

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Well, they were wrong.

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That's one of the white hot topics across America right now.

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These same strategists are now saying it's impossible to ignore data centers.

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Republican, Democrat, just jump in there.

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You got to talk about this.

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Take a side because people want to know.

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When you're talking to people like a Kevin O'Leary that are pro data center,

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they want these.

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They want to compete against China.

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One of the big conversations is, well, built all these jobs.

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Well, maybe, here's one of the headlines that breaks that argument down.

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AI data centers employ very few people.

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Here's what the numbers show.

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It says a $10 billion data center may employ 300 people.

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The same money manufacturing would support thousands.

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What does that get me for economies and communities?

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Well, I think we know it means unemployment.

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But really, 4,000 plus data centers, AI taking over, I mean, really everything

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at this point was we're being told, we only have one chance on this.

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And we can't get it wrong because of the size and the nature of what is being

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basically dropped in our lap here.

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And this is what the New York Times puts in one headline of the consequences of this.

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AI bots told scientists how to make biological weapons.

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It says scientists share transcripts with the times in which chat bots described

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how to assemble deadly pathogens and unleash them in public spaces.

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Kind of dangerous.

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It's kind of like chat bots telling kids how to commit suicide.

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This isn't good.

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There's no guardrails here.

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And that's another conversation that really hasn't been answered by anybody

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in government is what kind of guardrails can we put on this?

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Because it doesn't seem to have any.

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And that's now spilling out into the physical structure of our communities with the data centers.

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It's almost like it's an invasion.

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And the people putting these up and pointing up the money

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are fighting against the very people in these rural communities.

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Listen to Larry Fink here.

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Yeah, before you go to Larry Fink, I mean, I think what it feels like,

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honestly, as I'm reporting on this, I feel like we're a news show

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just prior to, as we've said, it's that prequel to the dystopian story.

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But this is really the Achilles heel of AI.

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It's almost as lit as if this is the last battle for humanity to stop Skynet

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or to stop Terminator.

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You're going to have 40,000 acres of a brain that is sucking all of our energy resources,

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all to do what to run our facial recognition software to track us, to control us, to enslave us.

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And so obviously, there's a couple of people like Larry.

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They're going to make a ton of money.

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But how about the rest of the society?

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They're like, we don't want this.

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It does feel like this is the last stand.

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If we are going to take seriously every stupid sci-fi movie we watched on this issue.

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And it's like an octopus on our face with the energy.

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At first, it was just showing up in people's bills.

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Well, you may have to pay a little bit for the data centers.

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But like, like Tahoe residents are saying, we're just taking it.

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And it's almost like a hostile takeover.

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At some point, it's going to be, you know, where?

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Where does this end?

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It's just going to be data centers will take your energy by edict of the government.

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And this, I think, is what the Black Rock CEO, Larry Fink,

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is talking about when he says this.

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Take a listen.

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Now, all of a sudden, Larry Fink is a close associate of Trump's

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and is working in close concert with Trump to bring about this AI.

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So here's Larry Fink speaking to, you know, fellow members of the Epstein class about

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AI and what this means and his concerns about it.

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Watch what he's worried about.

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But even here in the United States, if we're going to be building less

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CVs, one gigawatt data centers, how do we make sure we're not protecting those

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50 billion, 75 billion dollar investments?

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We have to relook at everything because of the role of drone warfare.

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Right now, we're looking at it internationally.

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But, you know, one of my concerns is could it be a domestic terrorism using a $3,000 drone?

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So all of these things are actually opportunities, not problems.

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Wow. I mean, that's, you know, his concern is really domestic terrorism, apparently,

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which it's an odd concern when you're going in buying off three officials to take away the

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energy and power is essentially for entire town cities, you know, principalities.

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It's almost as if you expect there could almost be an uprising.

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And certainly we're going to have to protect my investment from that.

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I mean, it's getting weird. It's really getting weird.

