So let's revisit Hamptons, the Hamptons.
Okay, remember that whole debacle?
Another thing that I said to the public
was that Seth Dillon was pressing.
Charlie, I said there was a smaller meeting that took place.
I said BBNet and Yahoo called,
and he offered to take Turning Point to the next level
when I sat down with Erica.
And she conceded that, yeah, she was there.
I had no idea, by the way, that Erica was there.
The first time I found out Erica was there
was when I was staying across from Erica.
And she conceded, yes, the Israel thing came up.
And just as the people told me that his perspectives on Israel
were being challenged, and then she said,
yeah, I was there when BBNet and Yahoo called, okay?
How come no one has confirmed that?
There's a piece of me that is angry
about the fact that I have been telling the truth,
and I feel like I have been being gasoline about that.
So there wasn't a ton of breaking news
from Candice Owens yesterday,
but that was an absolute bombshell.
I cannot believe that Erica Kirk now knows factually,
and we know factually, that Erica Kirk was present
at the meeting in the Hamptons when things got heated,
specifically over the topic of Israel,
and also BBNet and Yahoo called him.
Now, she claims that he didn't make that offer,
but Candice Owens says that her source on that
was Andrew Kovit, the head of PR for TPUSA.
He did not offer to take Channing Point to the next level,
and I said, really?
She said, yeah, I don't know who your source is on that,
but that part's not true.
He did call, but that part's not true.
That's what I told her, what I think shocked her
was that my source on that,
which I had never previously revealed to the public,
was Andrew Kovit.
It was Andrew Kovit who told me
that BBNet and Yahoo offered to take Channing Point
to the next level, and that Charlie Kirk said,
no.
And we're just going to pretend as if these mixed messages
don't mean anything?
Additionally, Erica Kirk has now acknowledged that,
in fact, yes, there were messages from her deceased husband
to a bunch of people within TPUSA,
including the head of his security,
saying that he feared for his life
just a day prior to him being assassinated,
and she's not asking these questions.
Why is Candice Owens asking these questions?
Why is his widow not 10 times more,
100, a million times more concerned than Candice Owens?
It makes no sense to me.
I'm completely bewildered by this,
and I'm totally shocked that this isn't a huge national story.
That, in fact, basically all of the allegations
that Candice made about that meeting,
about the text messages are all true,
and yet people are still acting like she's just a lunatic.
Whereas his wife is being defended by and large,
despite the fact that she's overlooking
all of these glaring omissions.
Ah, yes, I forgot.
We don't have to take any of these things
into consideration because Mitch Snow is allegedly a fraud,
as Alex Jones and all of these other detractors
to Candice Owens have been pointing out.
Mitch Snow put out a post, I don't know when,
alleging that the Zodiac killer was, in fact, his father.
Which kind of makes me feel better
because I have not put all of my eggs
in the Mitch Snow basket.
Again, though, despite the fact that I find that very far-fetched,
it doesn't really matter.
I made this point just last week.
It doesn't really matter.
Mitch Snow can be a crazy person.
He can be a liar.
He can be this and that and this and that.
It doesn't really matter.
Were these people at Fort Wachuka, or weren't they?
If they weren't, let's move on.
If they were, okay, then we got something.
We got something really big here.
But if he's wrong, if he's crazy, if he's a liar,
whatever, it still doesn't change the fact
that all of these other things are true.
All of these other things point to additional motives
that could either supplement or completely replace
the Tyler Robinson narrative.
So just keep that in mind.
Listen, that Jeffrey Epstein story is a big deal.
Please do not let that story go.
Keep your eye on this.
Catherine Rumler, I want you,
we need to keep the heat on this case, folks.
There are a lot of people who are knee-deep
in the Washington swamp who are not telling you the truth
about serious allegations out there
that Epstein may have had video and audio of people out there
doing things they shouldn't have been doing.
And you should be asking yourself the question,
how is it that all these people, the CIA director,
the Obama fixer, Bill Clinton,
all intersected past with Jeffrey Epstein.
Jeffrey Epstein isn't with us anymore
and nobody seems to want to talk about it.
Outside of a few entrepreneurial media outlets saying,
hey, this is a big deal.
He killed himself.
Again, you want me to, I've seen the whole file.
He killed himself.
Keep your eye on this story.
I know you want to move on, do not move on.
And then never mind disregard all of it.
And then today he is declaring war
on all the black pillars and grifters like me.
Yeah. Oh, and Matt Gaetz, by the way,
and a whole bunch of other people.
I'm sure he's furious with MTG
and probably Thomas Massey,
basically anyone who's not completely in lockstep
with covering up for the Epstein files,
for covering up for the complete pivot
that Donald Trump has made from all of his campaign promises
aside from the border.
So yeah, this is just a continuation of the lying.
But perhaps I'm overreacting.
Let's hear what Tim Pool has to say about it.
He's coming back, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm a big fan.
I think Dan's a good dude.
I think he did his best.
And I got to tell you,
I do think there's a lot of black pillars and grifters.
And I am sick of this fake purity test,
no strategy garbage coming from people on the right.
I guess the notorious grift your way
by criticizing the sitting president strategy
on the right wing when there's a Republican in power.
I'm not familiar with that strategy.
Could someone fill me in?
I have not been receiving my propaganda bucks
to criticize Donald Trump on behalf of I don't know what entity.
And for the record, it's not blackpilling to be critical
of a guy who advertises himself as some deep state destroyer
who then gets to be the second in command
of the federal police force, the FBI,
and does not lock up or even indict.
Now granted, it would be Bonnie that would indict,
but you know what I'm saying.
Basically brought no one to justice.
None of the deep state was brought to justice.
The only person with a pending indictment right now
is John Bolton, who's ecstatic about our invasion
and toppling of Maduro.
So I don't know.
I feel like I am totally well founded
in being very, very angry.
Now that doesn't mean that just because I'm angry,
I've given up all hope that if Donald Trump
in this administration actually starts to do better things
that I won't be positive about it, I would be, of course.
That's why I'm so critical.
That's actually what gets you better behavior
is to tell the truth about the people in power
that don't deliver when they promised to do so.
And that's all I'm doing.
If they wanted to lie to control the narrative,
it would have been so simple for Bongino to say,
guys, I'm looking at the Epstein stuff and it is bad.
It's going to take us some time.
So I'm giving you this update.
Let you know we're on it and we'll get it to you.
And then you just ignore it and it goes away.
Seriously, I'm glad he didn't.
I'm glad they just came out and said what they thought,
but I find it all hard to believe.
I really do.
So this is such a bizarre rationale from Tim.
I like I can't even wrap my head around it honestly.
So he's arguing that, look,
it would have been a lot easier for them
to just say that this is very complicated
and we'll get you the answers eventually
and then just not deliver as opposed to coming out
and just denying outright that the files existed,
which is what they did until they were forced to disclose otherwise.
And then it turns out months and months later
after they've lied through their teeth
and after the whole white binder affair
to the influencers months prior,
now there's millions of documents for the Epstein file
that are being parsed through
and they have hundreds of DOJ attorneys
that are going through redacting everything.
I mean, it's a complete shit show,
but Tim's defense of Dan Bongino
is that he came out and just lied
and said that the files don't exist
and that there's nothing, there's no there there
and that Epstein KMS like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You think that it would be less of a lie
to say that this is, this goes deep
and then to just deliver nothing
than to come out and say, there's nothing there?
That's preferable to you?
That he just comes out and says,
there's no there there, there's nothing
when we all know that there is.
When Dan Bongino in his own words was like,
don't let this go.
And then we're like, we're with you, Dan.
We're not going to let this go.
And then he's like, let this go.
And Tim's like, okay, I mean, what are we even doing here?
Why are we supporting these people still?
Yeah, sure you like him.
You think he's a good guy.
I don't know what evidence you have to believe that.
And worse, if it was just,
and I'm being totally sincere right now,
if Dan Bongino were to have resigned
and said, look guys, I did,
if he were to come out and say what Tim Poole is saying,
I'd be like, okay, that's fair.
I mean, I wouldn't like really deeply respect it,
but at least I could accept it.
If he were to come out and say, look,
I got in there and I'm telling you,
the rod is so deep,
there's just really nothing more I could do.
Everything that I tried to do,
there was roadblocks that were put up
by the bureaucracy.
You wouldn't even believe what challenges I faced.
And you wouldn't believe the threats I faced
and the, you know, whatever.
You could come up with a whole bunch of excuses
for why you didn't deliver,
but that's not what he's doing.
He's saying, black pillars, step aside.
Me and Cash were the best tag team the FBI's ever seen.
We kicked ass on behalf of the American people,
on behalf of MAGA, and we delivered.
And if you feel differently,
then you're just some black-pilling grifter
to which I say, fuck you very much.
Who's the grifter, bro?
The guy who gets into a position of power,
lying to the public,
then gets in there and delivers nada,
and then comes out and declares war
on his justified critics?
And you have sympathy for this guy?
This makes him a good guy in your eyes?
I'm sorry.
I don't see it.
You simply don't see it.
I'm not a fan of how it went down with the Epstein stuff.
I don't believe, I still don't.
And I'm a pragmatic guy,
but I don't think Dan is a bad dude.
I don't think he's doing evil things.
I think he's trying his best.
I recognize that.
Sometimes it's a rockin' hard place.
Now, I'm not a fan of intervention.
I'm not a fan of Venezuela stuff.
My point is, don't be so simple.
You know what I mean?
These people that are like,
what Trump did in Venezuela is so wrong,
I will no longer support him.
And it's like, maybe ask him why.
Do you trust Trump, Cash, Dan?
Do you believe that these people have your best intentions?
Okay, ask him.
And if they don't tell you,
I say then be angry and criticize them for it.
Take the good, criticize the bad.
I've got a lot to say about that part.
So he's saying, if you trust Cash, Dan, Trump,
that they have your best interests in mind,
then ask them.
Well, first off, no, I don't trust them.
We're talking about the top two people
at the FBI and the President of the United States.
Since when do we trust any of those people
in those positions of power?
There is no reason to trust them whatsoever.
Additionally, I don't need to ask them.
Trump has already said explicitly why we went into Venezuela.
He's like, oil, we're taking it.
And to reclaim investments from some of his biggest donors,
like, he's very overt about it.
So now that you have the answer,
can you judge his behavior and criticize him
for doing something that you claim to be lukewarm about?
Apparently not.
Do I need to ask Dan Bongino if he feels
as if he let us down when he was deputy director of the FBI?
No, I don't need to ask him
because he's saying basically mission accomplished.
He's flying the flag.
And then one another point about this.
This whole idea of like, don't abandon Trump entirely.
What is this even, what are we even talking about?
Like, is there a physical bandwagon that we are all on?
Is there an actual literal train, the Trump train,
that we're either on or we're off?
Because I've never viewed politics like that.
I don't know when it became that for people.
Where it's like, you have to be on the team.
There is no fucking team.
And if there are teams, they're certainly not on ours.
Let's be honest about that, please.
So again, no, I'm not on the Trump train.
I never was.
I voted for him, but I only did so because I expected
him to deliver on a few of his campaign promises
that I really cared about.
He delivered on like one.
So I'm at the point of going, all right,
I'm going to be appreciative of the one.
And then critical of the rest.
I'm neither on or off the train.
There is no train.
It's not a thing.
We don't have to blindly support these people.
They don't need our moral support whatsoever.
I don't even know what it lends to them.
What additional power does that give him
when it comes to his negotiations with Congress?
Which Congress, by the way, has a 15% approval rating.
And Donald Trump is currently asking them
for advice on why the American voters,
aka the right wing, aka his base,
is not on board with him anymore,
at least not to the extent that they used to be.
Think about how unbelievably detached from reality
you have to be to go, these voters,
they just don't see how great I am.
And then to go to Congress, an organization
with 15% approval and go,
can you tell me what I'm doing wrong?
No, they can't because they're doing the same
shit you are.
They're all failing.
You're failing.
They're failing.
The whole thing's a failure.
So obviously, you're not going to get good advice from them.
I'll tell you who you could get good advice from, though.
His name is Thomas Massey, or you can call up MTG.
Oh, wait.
You just pushed her out of power.
Oh, wait.
You're actively primaring Thomas Massey
to the tune of $22 million.
Oh, wait.
If anybody else in Congress were to actually sit you down
and say, listen, Mr. President, I respect you deeply.
However, I think it's the fact that you've abandoned your base
and you stopped delivering on their behalf
and instead have completely dedicated your second presidency
contrary to your public campaign promises
to deliver almost entirely on behalf of your donors
and a foreign government.
And I don't think that they like that.
And then he'd be like, well, thank you for the feedback.
Also, you're fired.
He would immediately marshal his forces
to primary that Congressman too.
So why do you think he's not getting advice?
Why do you think he doesn't understand
what his base feels and thinks?
Because everyone around him is a yes man,
because everyone around him is scared for their life.
And I'm talking about the 3 to 5% of Congress
that isn't purely, deeply evil.
The other 95% are like, Mr. President,
I have no idea why they don't like you.
And in fact, I've asked myself that same question
every night before I go to bed.
Why the fuck don't these idiots love me?
And it's like, oh, well, because that's
how you feel about us.
And now after his entire list of failures
and broken promises, and oh, might I add,
also coming out last summer and saying,
if you're still talking about Epstein,
if you still want the Epstein disclosures to happen,
I don't need your support.
That's what Donald Trump posted.
That's what he said in his own words,
which we do know that he writes his own tweets
or his own truth, socials, whatever.
He said that.
And then he went out and he actively worked
to unseat the only congressional representatives
that we actually like by and large, MTG Massie.
And now he turns around and he goes, guys,
if we don't win these midterms, I'm going to get impeached.
And I'm like, good, I don't care.
Do you understand that there are consequences
for your actions, Mr. President?
Do you get that?
I don't know when you stop caring
about what we think and what we prioritize.
But as soon as you did,
I stopped giving a fuck about you.
And I'm not alone in that.
I don't care.
And you're like, oh, well, Clint,
if the Democrats get in power,
then XYZ bad is going to happen.
Yeah, I know.
I'm well aware.
This is the whole energy that Fuentes had
before he became some warmongering zealot
with his Venezuela bullshit.
But yeah, it's going to destroy the country.
But you know what is also destroying the country?
That would be the modern iteration of the GOP.
That would be the current paradigm.
That would be exactly what's happening now.
So am I going to sacrifice whatever's left
of my principles to just stand in line
to pull the lever on behalf of some warhawk
just so that the GOP stays the majority,
a very slim majority I might add?
No. No, I will not.
I will do everything in my power
to donate and to support publicly,
Thomas Massey, to defeat your primary campaign.
And aside from that,
I'm not lifting a fucking finger to help the GOP.
And fuck you very much for even thinking I would or should.
You destroyed this party.
You destroyed this movement.
You abandoned your base.
Fucking deal with it, dude.
Be an adult about this.
You say you don't need us.
Okay. Message received.
I'm not the one abandoning you.
You kicked me off this metaphorical train.
So do I want to see you impeached or not?
I don't really care.
That's the honest of God's truth.
You have bombed, you bombed six countries
over the past calendar year.
No American president in history had done that.
You campaign on being the president of peace.
You bombed six countries.
I'm sorry.
I actually care what words mean.
Yeah, I've opened up a dictionary once or twice.
I actually think you ought to mean what you say
and be honest about shit from time to time.
And you haven't been.
So if you lose the majority and if the Democrats impeach you,
bye. I don't care.
But see, here's the thing.
And I think this is the really sad reality
is that I don't think the Democrats are going to impeach him
because I think the Democrats are all on the same team
with his nonsense or not all of them,
but the vast majority,
they're like, yeah, he's bombing the hell out of place.
Our donors like that.
Boeing and Lockheed Martin.
They're like, yeah, you're going to keep him in power.
He's doing exactly what we've asked.
So I think that he ain't got much to worry about President Trump.
So enjoy your new team.
You remember when you went golfing all those times
with Lindsey Graham?
You remember just yesterday when you were on Air Force One
with Lindsey Graham coming out of the bathroom
with that shitting grin with the make Iran great again hat
and you're just smiling.
They're all fucking big and you're all so happy, right?
That's your team now.
That's your team, not my team,
not the American people's team,
not Magus team,
certainly not America first team.
That's your team.
You're not on my team anymore.
If we're going to play this bullshit team,
metaphor nonsense, I have a team.
It's called America first and fucking only and you ain't on it.
You get picked last, sir.
You could have rolled with MTG and Matt Gaetz
and Thomas Massey.
You went with Lindsey Graham and a bunch of gremlins.
So fuck off.
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I think big tech and prominent influencers like Candace Owens
are intentionally trying to destroy the right.
And so YouTube puts Candace on the front page.
That's how she gets massive viewership largely.
It's promotion.
And they're doing it because it's destabilizing to the right.
Dan Bongino, and it feels rather coordinated.
We can get super conspiratorial.
How do you get rid of Dan Bongino
who's getting 150K concurrence on rumble?
Bring him to the White House.
Bring him to the FBI.
He goes in.
It's an immovable object.
He's unable to get these things.
Then they immediately send out their propped up influencers
to accuse him of being evil when it's more like it's politics.
So Tim can see a conspiracy amongst people
that are upset with Dan Bongino,
the Trump administration, the FBI.
But he can't see the conspiracy theory
behind Dan Bongino lying to get into that position.
Trump lying to get into that position
and then not delivering on their promises.
That's not the conspiracy.
The conspiracy is that we're upset that they lied.
I am mystified by this analysis honestly.
And I'll just tell you my read.
It feels as if Tim's bias is getting in his own way
that he wants very much to maintain
a positive relationship with the White House
so that he can continue to have his reporters
go to the White House press briefing or whatever.
I can't come up with any better explanation
because it's just so obvious why people are upset
with Dan Bongino.
It's so obvious why people are upset with Donald Trump.
Deportation numbers are about one-fifth
of what Biden was letting in per year
and over his first full year.
So we're not even close to offsetting
the damage done to this country
just during the Biden administration.
Donald Trump ran on no new wars
and then bombed six countries.
I know Tim.
I know him well.
I know that he's not a pro-war guy.
I don't even understand
why I need to make these arguments
as to why we're all justifiably angry.
But Tim's not alone in this.
There's a lot of people that I broadly speaking like
who seem to have just completely lost their minds
when it comes to this Venezuela thing.
You got Matt Walsh going full hawk.
You got Nick Fuentes going hawk,
which I did not see coming.
And then Sernovich was on with Tucker Carlson yesterday.
He's justifying it to the end of the earth.
He's even saying we need to go further than that.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
Matt Walsh, you keep calling me stupid
but you ran from a debate.
You're running away.
If I'm low IQ,
then why are you not able to have a conversation
with me about Israel and their influence in America?
One, we know it's because
you're a little good boy bitch for your boss.
Two, it's because you will get exposed.
You switched up your entire...
Your whole identity was about
how foreign policy should not make the same mistakes.
How we went into Iraq and Afghanistan
and it fucked up our economy.
Okay, then apply that same logic right now.
And yes, we're in favor of America
exerting its power to advance its interest.
Oh, okay, your anti-interventionist.
But now, yes,
I'm in favor of exerting its power to advance its interest.
We actually love our country
and want it to succeed unlike this guy.
I'm a real American.
I want our country to succeed.
I want it...
You're selling out your own people,
you fucking fraud.
Cyopping people to be simps for Israel
while our country gets sucked away.
I care about this country.
I'm the one calling out the real problem.
You're a slave to it.
I don't know, Sneeko never met him,
but he's got Matt Walsh's number on this one.
I actually reached out to him,
asked him if he wanted to come on the show to talk about it
because I was like, damn, bro, light him up.
And he should be.
I mean, he absolutely should be.
There's so many people that came to prominence
seeming as a voice of reason,
seeming as opposition to the empire
as opposition to the interventionist,
new conservative, hawkish mentality
that has ultimately hollowed out
not just this country,
but damaged much of the rest of the world,
driven us towards bankruptcy.
But suddenly you get one seemingly successful
on its face snatch and grab of the president of Venezuela.
And all of a sudden it's like, nah, we're back in.
Hurrah!
America first, baby.
America first means intervention.
America first means war.
No, no, it doesn't.
And you're not going to bastardize this term.
You've already stolen a MAGA from your base.
You're not going to also steal America first
and you're certainly not going to steal America only.
That over my dead body.
That's mine.
America first and fucking only.
That's mine.
You can't have it.
Venezuela, China, Iran, they're all connected.
If somebody tells you this is all about the oil,
listen to them because it is,
but I don't know if they understand
what they're even saying about that.
This is about the hemisphere.
This is about the US military and the war machine.
Yes, to all of those things.
Right now, Venezuela has the largest proven oil
reserves on earth, 8,000 to 10,000 tons of gold
that is still in ground.
China needs the oil.
China buys 60 to 90% of all of Venezuela's crude exports.
China also buys 85 to 90% of all of the oil from Iran.
China also buys nearly half of all Russian oil.
What's happening right now?
Well, 60 to 90% of all of the exports from Venezuela,
now not going to China.
How is China going to be able to
power all of their electricity needs?
Oh, and what else has been destabilized this weekend?
Iran.
So Glenn Beck throws a lot of stats at you,
but he doesn't, he leaves out one
that's really, really important.
And that's that China only gets about 5%
of their annual oil consumption from Venezuela.
If you think that they can't replace that,
you're simply not thinking.
They'll easily get it from Russia or Iran.
If you topple Iran, they'll get it from some other neighbor.
It's not as if China is actually going to go without oil.
They're an enormous economy.
They have to have it to function,
and they will go to war for it.
This is the other astonishingly short-sighted analysis
that all of these people are either falling victim to
or just intentionally doing to help
propagandize their audience
on behalf of the Trump administration.
But just think about this rationally.
If you're going to take the position
that no other superpower can do business in our hemisphere,
which is what they're saying,
they're saying you can't do business in our hemisphere,
all of Latin America can't touch it.
What do you think China's going to do?
Do you remember the entire past,
I don't know how many years we've been arguing
and debating about how China's going to move on Taiwan
and how we can't allow that to happen.
It's existential because the semiconductors
that come out of Taiwan can only be produced there
and we must have access to them.
Well, if you think that you're going to just
absolutely browbeat the Chinese
into getting out of Latin America entirely,
and they're not going to do something
when it comes to Taiwan, why?
Why do you think that?
Why are you so confident
that they're not going to cut us off?
Why are you so confident that this is
the best pathway forward?
Let me just also rewind here
and let's think about this a little bit.
Do you think like people are talking
about Donald Trump's move on Venezuela?
They're literally describing it as genius.
As America first, the most America first thing
you could possibly do is essentially what Matt Walsh said.
What?
There is nothing new or novel
about imperialism, colonialism, war, stealing.
And I just, I have to take a second
and I know people get upset when I do this
to lecture Christians on being Christian,
but how do you call yourself a Christian
when you're talking about just stealing
and murdering people?
You're like, Mike makes right.
We're the biggest power.
We get whatever we want.
So is that what Jesus taught you?
Because I've been reading,
I know this is shocking for you guys here.
I've been reading the Bible lately a lot
and not in there.
Nope, it's not in there.
That's actually completely counter
to the teachings of Jesus, like super duper counter,
very, very, very, very counter.
So I don't know.
Sternovich goes on with Tucker Carlson.
He's doing this lengthy, lengthy diatribe
about how we need to bring back imperialism.
We need to bring back Mike makes right.
And then he spends the rest of the episode
talking about his ayahuasca experience
where he basically died, left his body
and went to hell and realized that he,
on his current trajectory,
is going to hell.
And then he says,
I'm not sure that I'm a good person.
And I'm like, hey, Mike,
we've been mutuals for a long time.
I say this out of kindness.
Do you think you're going to go to heaven
by advocating for profligate militarism
to steal resources from third world countries?
Do you think Jesus wants that?
If you're concerned about your mortal soul,
I'd reconsider.
I really would.
And this is like the entire religious right.
Oh, well, I shouldn't say the entire,
but like many of the prominent religious right-wingers
are all beating the war drums saying,
we're the biggest country.
We're a superpower.
We get to steal shit.
Of course we do.
That's the way of the world.
This is a good thing.
And many of them, including Konstantin Kissen,
that absolute bum fraud who spent years
arguing against Russia invading Ukraine
based off of defense of the neoliberal world order.
The rules-based international order is what he described.
Now arguing that international law is a fraud.
It doesn't exist.
It's nothing.
But what do you think the rules-based international order
is predicated off of?
It's predicated off international law, Konstantin.
So if you support the RBIO,
you can't then turn around and say,
I don't support international law.
Which is it?
Pick a lane.
And here's the truth.
None of these people are principled.
None of these people actually apply
anything logically to our enemies as they do to ourselves.
We get to behave as immorally, as criminally,
as humanly possible.
And then we get to point the finger at anybody else
doing the same thing and say, you bad, we good.
I'm sorry.
That's not a reasonable way to look at the world.
It's not a reasonable way to formulate a worldview.
I mean, look at Nick Fuentes just in October of this year.
This is one of the most brazen lies to get us into a war
that I've ever seen.
Because most of the drugs that are manufactured
don't come from Venezuela.
And most of the drugs that are trafficked
into the United States don't come from Venezuela either.
We have legitimate targets among the drug cartels.
They are in Colombia.
They are in Mexico.
They're in Central America.
They're also in South America.
But they're not really in Venezuela.
So the reality is this is a very thinly veiled pretext
for a war with Venezuela, the real object of which
is regime change.
Why? It's simple.
Venezuela has aligned itself strategically
with US adversaries, like China, Russia, and Iran.
And when Nick said that, I was like,
someone who gets it.
Someone who's honestly analyzing these things
recognizes that fentanyl ain't coming out of Venezuela.
And when we're blowing up these boats
and saying that that's the reason why, we're just lying.
It's an obvious lie.
And it's not just then when he said it either.
He also posted on October 22nd.
He says, golden age update.
And this is sarcasm because he's dunking on Trump.
And he says, regime change in Venezuela.
Pardon for Netanyahu.
Authorized Ukrainian strikes on Russia.
Threatening to bomb Hamas, et cetera, et cetera, right?
And what is he saying here?
He's saying, these are all things you didn't campaign on.
So he seems to be opposing it
based off of this rhetoric here.
And then after the extraction of Maduro,
he's posting USA, American flag.
And then he's also sending to what I assume is his group chat
with his like diehard supporters saying, I don't know.
I just thought we were all on the same page.
I cheered for Russia's invasion of Ukraine
because that is a legitimate defense of Russian interests
in its contested sphere of influence.
I feel similarly about Venezuela.
And if you're looking at this, 3,200
down thumbs, down votes, whatever, 2,200, 2,300 almost likes.
It's like, I think even his audience doesn't like it,
which is honestly shocking.
I'm proud of them.
Now a lot of people are jumping to Fuentes having flipped
or being an opp or whatever.
I'm not going to go there.
Let's face it, the United States government
has become the evil empire in the world.
The United States government has become the great Satan
that many have called it.
I personally, I think this is a totally plausible blind spot
in his worldview that doesn't exactly surprise me
because he has always liked strong men.
And I know I'm making sounds like I'm making a gay joke.
I don't intend to.
That's not what I'm trying to do.
I'm just saying he likes strong men.
He likes Stalin.
He's even defended Stalin at points.
And it's like, all right, look, this is just a dead end.
If you think that, especially in modern times,
you can just become some imperial army
and go out conquering the world to steal all their resources
and not end up in a nuclear war at some point,
you're just really not thinking.
I mean, people are really going to just accept,
oh, well, America has the strongest army.
And they have the most nukes or actually we don't,
but they got a lot of nukes.
So no one's ever going to stand up to us.
Ever. It's absurd.
And the truth is it's almost certain that there was,
if not a full stand down order,
certainly a stand down order when it came to air defenses
in Venezuela, which allowed for our Chinooks
to just all over the place
without any concern about getting shot back at.
I think that there was a pre-negotiated deal
probably with the vice president under Maduro.
Because I don't know how you get in there.
You have all of these helicopters flying low,
not even over the water, over the land and not being shot at
with sidearms like AK fire or legit air defense systems.
There was nothing.
They're flying super low doing whatever they want,
receiving no flak.
It's like, I'm sorry.
If you actually were to end up in a war with Venezuela,
I'm talking about a knockdown, drag out extended war
in Venezuela.
It's basically Vietnam.
I mean, that's what it would look like.
If these people really want to fight back,
they will be in the jungles shooting from behind every leaf,
and it'll be a nightmare.
It'll be hell.
So credit to Trump and his administration for at least
not appearing to want that to be how this plays out.
But don't get it twisted.
If you abuse this situation aggressively enough,
that is where it will end up.
And really setting Fuentes aside,
what I've come to the conclusion of over the past
week since this attack happened
is that these people really have no geopolitical understanding.
I don't think they've ever read an article about the war on terror.
I don't think they know anything about it.
Literally nothing.
Look at Haiti.
What part of Haiti are you saying to yourself?
We need more of that.
We don't want a marine invasion and occupation
of the United States that constantly decapitates governments.
Don't want the Clintons either.
Debt from the revolution.
Right.
Although I don't say or say that.
We wouldn't want to be basically a colony
that the entire West spends 200 years punishing
after the Haitian Revolution.
I get that.
But I understand that.
That's not entirely why Haiti's in the position that it's in.
I mean, at a certain point as a country,
you have to stand on your own two feet and take care of yourself.
But what point is that?
They elect Aristide and we overthrow Aristide.
Then they elect Jovenel Moise.
Jovenel Moise is assassinated a bunch of people
with American connections.
And then we install in 2021,
like the United States installed the Prime Minister
that we just ousted.
We're still doing it.
Yeah.
I mean, and I'm not in favor of,
I'm very non-interventionist in my policies.
We just made the new government in Haiti
in a hotel room in Jamaica.
If it were up to me,
I'm not interested in doing anything in Haiti.
Like let Haiti be Haiti and take care of that.
That's sort of my whole point here.
Let Haiti be Haiti.
Let Venezuela be Venezuela.
Oh, correction, actually.
Matt Walsh, January 4th.
I totally support turning other countries in our hemisphere
into subordinate vassals of the United States.
That's the very definition of an America First foreign policy.
That's the very definition.
I'm very much a non-interventionist.
No, the fuck you're not.
No, you're not.
And that's okay.
You don't have to be.
But please don't wear my ideology like a skin suit
and then discard it the minute you want to get,
I don't know, your fucking war jollies off.
I mean, Matt Walsh knows so little about geopolitics
that when he's talking about Haiti
with Ryan Grimm from Dropsite News,
which by the way, shout out to Ryan Grimm,
absolutely eviscerates him.
Oh, you got to get over stuff from hundreds of years ago
and stand on your own two feet.
And Ryan Grimm's like, yeah, well,
we just ousted the prime minister that we installed.
And that was like 2021, like four years ago.
So get over it.
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
Look, I'm not defending Haiti either.
I'm not sure that they'd be crushing it
if it weren't for our intervention.
Oftentimes people leap to that conclusion
because imperialism, a lot of these areas
don't end up flourishing and it's blamed forever.
But I'll tell you what, picking the leadership
of all of the foreign countries in your hemisphere
and making it so that they only do the bidding
of special interests within America
so that they cut sweetheart deals
to our largest corporations doesn't help.
Venezuela raid enriches MAGA billionaire.
The ouster of Maduro is a financial windfall
for a prominent Trump-supporting billionaire,
investor Paul Singer.
What's his involvement with Venezuela and oil?
Okay, it says here in November 2025,
Singer acquired Citgo,
the U.S.-based subsidiary of Venezuela's
state-run oil company.
Singer, through his private investment
from Elliott Investment Management,
bought Citgo for $5.9 billion.
In remarks to Fox News on Saturday,
Trump made clear that one of the motivations
for Saturday's attack was to increase the production
and export of Venezuelan oil.
Jaime Brito, an oil analyst at OPIS,
said access to Venezuelan oil exports
will quote, be a game changer for U.S. Gulf Coast
refiners in terms of profitability.
Paul Singer, thanks to a well-timed transaction,
will be one of the largest beneficiaries.
It doesn't help these people at all.
And if you're concerned about the refugee
slash illegal immigration flood
coming from all of these nations,
which I know Matt Walsh is,
you might want to consider the devastating impacts
that this stuff does have on these people.
And now that doesn't mean that
Venezuela would be some flourishing metropolis.
It might be, but it doesn't necessarily mean that.
But I'll tell you one thing for sure,
it hasn't improved their standard of living.
It certainly doesn't improve Haiti's standard of living
when we're constantly deposing their leadership.
Constantly.
You can ask the Libyans how well they're doing
after Gaddafi left.
Or the Syrians now.
Or the Iraqis.
Or Afghanistan.
Our track record is horrific.
I don't even understand why I have to make this argument.
It doesn't help the people there.
They end up becoming refugees.
They flood the West.
So then the wars that Matt Walsh supports
end up creating a legal immigration flood to his nation,
which he then bitches about nonstop.
So he makes his career getting clicks,
advocating for war.
And then he makes the second half of his career
bitching about the consequences of the wars
that he supports.
To which I say,
you need get back to work, Matt Walsh.
Well, I'm at it.
Nick Fuentes, get back to work.
I'm just so disappointed in everybody.
I really am.
It's like, I just, it's like they don't have any,
they don't have any principles.
Like, I know, I know people go like, oh, you got libertarians.
All they talk about is principles.
And all they do is stick to the principle.
Yeah, well, what the fuck else do we have, man?
What else do we have if we don't have principles?
How do you actually expect to like,
judge any other behavior from the rest of the world
if we're just thieving marauders?
That's, that's what you prescribe
to make America great again.
That's what you prescribe to put America first.
Is it just go out and bob and rob the rest of the world
as brazenly, as aggressively as humanly possible?
And you think that it's going to work out great?
Is it Venezuela?
Because the, well, I heard voices kind of saying
it's not so bad and Latin America is not so bad,
but I'm not convinced.
And the question was-
You have a good reason not to be convinced.
It is getting worse.
Why?
And little by little, as long as oil money works.
I'm told that by our experts, it's the only,
except for Iran, it's the only government propagated
anti-Semitism to the around the world.
It's a very-
Formally, right?
This is-
First thing within the country and then outside.
So are you pressing in any way?
We've talked to Jesse Jackson as a relationship,
but it's not for camera,
but there are other plans.
We'll talk about it in a minute.
And for Fuentes to overlook this is just mind-bending.
That's Isaac Herzog,
basically the anti-Semitism czar for Israel.
And he's having a meeting about a decade ago
with some local person talking about anti-Semitism
in Venezuela.
And now like, now that you've lived through
the past three years,
what do you think they're actually describing
as anti-Semitism in Venezuela?
Be like, they actually are just allied with Iran.
That's it.
That makes them anti-Semitic.
It's crazy.
But and then he says, you know,
you've got any plans to deal with this?
And he's like, well,
we've got plans that we can't talk about on camera.
And I'm like, did we just witness the plans last week?
We might have.
It's a distinct possibility.
Let's not lie to ourselves.
It certainly could be.
And I already laid out all of the arguments as to why
I think this is a precursor for war with Iran.
The Iranians are on notice.
The Iranian regime.
President Trump has already mourned.
Listen, you start shooting protesters on mass
and the U.S. isn't going to sit still for that.
That there are a lot of people who are very, very upset,
very upset on the so-called isolationist right.
People who have in the past, for example,
suggested that the only people who would be
against Nicolas Maduro's continued regime are
Global Homo.
Well, I suppose the administration may have to
explain to people like Tucker Carlson
that in fact it was not Global Homo
that asked Nicholas Maduro.
It was a conservative Republican president,
a gutsy president who makes the calls to preserve
America's national security and her foreign interests,
her interests in the Western Hemisphere
and her interests internationally undercutting
enemies of the United States ranging from Russia
to China to Iran to Cuba with moves like this.
So we officially have Nick Fuentes on the same
side as Ben Shapiro when it comes to
American foreign policy in this instance.
Yikes.
And it doesn't just stop there.
Here's General Jack Keen, who was one of the top guys
under the Bush administration during the war on terror.
The implications here are really great for the Venezuelan people.
He's talking about Venezuela.
The implications there are really great for the Israel—
Venezuelan people.
Oops.
He almost told the truth, Jack.
I'm just saying, man, I've laid out a lot of evidence.
There's more that I haven't even had time to actually
really unpack for you guys, but there's a lot of evidence
that this intervention was at least significantly on behalf of Israel.
And I was watching Tim tonight.
Again, he's just dismissing it.
Like we're all lunatics for calling this stuff out.
It's like, no, you're just ignoring it.
You're just obviously ignoring it.
So I've been nuking a lot of people that I,
generally speaking, like.
I got to give some credit now
because the vast majority of people completely reverted
back to kind of a war hawkish, new conservative-type mindset,
but not making Kelly, which I'm shocked because she has been
under pressure for a long time for standing by Canissons and Tucker Carlson,
and she's going to get major heat for this.
And that makes me wonder if maybe that's the reason
that she's been under so much pressure.
I have seen what happens when you cheerlead unabashedly
U.S. intervention in foreign countries thinking it's for our good
and for the national, the international good,
only to wind up with what we've called quagmire.
Nine times out of 10, they don't work out well.
And what does it mean in terms of boots on the ground?
Trump is saying, I'm actually fine with that in Venezuela.
Well, who's boots?
Because I have a 16-year-old boy, and I have a 12-year-old boy,
and I have a 14-year-old girl.
And a lot of my listeners have children, too,
who are actually the ones who might have to fill the boots.
So I think I speak for a lot of moms and dads,
for that matter, when I say I'm staying in yellow territory
until we know more.
And I will not be joining the Fox News cheerleading brigade this time.
I've been burned too many times.
Let's go.
Let's go, Megyn Kelly.
Yes.
Throw off the Fox News shackles.
Replicate from very recent history
when it comes to Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Somalia, Sudan,
all these...
The interventions have not worked out very well for us,
or for them were always sold.
It's going to be easy.
Welcome, misliberators, blah, blah, blah.
We'll take the resource.
So we get this and that.
What has it done to improve our standard of living in America?
What has it done to bring justice to the Epstein clients,
for instance?
Nothing.
We are ruled by criminals and oligarchs.
And I think more and more people are waking up to it.
I think more and more people are turning off the channel
when people who aren't willing to be honest about that get on the TV.
And that's a good thing.
And this is the whole reason that Shapiro is lashing out,
freaking out, trying to topple Tucker Carlson
because he's devoured his audience.
All of us have devoured Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro's audiences.
And more and more people are...
Now the more moderate YouTubers are even being devoured
because they're not willing to take a stand on this stuff,
despite the fact that the majority of tuned-in political analyzers,
y'all, have woken up to this long ago.
And they're like, I know I'm being sold a bill of goods.
I know you're bullshitting me.
And I'm not going to keep fucking giving you my attention.
Good. Good for you.
All right, before we get out of here,
I got one more update from Candace.
Got to drop this.
This is the video.
And you can see what we have there.
That's Charlie's necklace.
That's hanging.
There's no blood on Charlie.
There was absolutely no blood on Charlie.
Not only did the bullet not go through,
it didn't even cause any sort of destruction.
And I follow that video until he goes down.
There's nothing that we would expect to see from A-30 Ot 6.
And again, I have a close-up of this.
That's his chain.
There's no question that what you are seeing there is his chain.
And the only blood that I saw was blood in his hand,
which was spurting forward to be clear.
Now, there's nothing earth-shattering in that
because we all have been analyzing this
and we all kind of knew,
but we had not seen an actual image from him from behind.
So now we can at least confirm,
yes, his neck was made of steel.
Open and shut case.
Tyler Robinson did it.
I just, I don't, I can't explain it.
I know I had the debate a couple weeks ago
about this topic.
I still am fully in the camp of like,
it's extraordinarily hard for me to believe
that he was hit from a 30 Ot 6 from 140 yards.
And that's what we saw on that video.
I'm sorry.
There's another bit of breaking news from Candice.
Tyler Robinson, we can exclusively confirm to you all,
drove three hours away from Orem, Utah, down to Pankwich, Utah.
And what was he doing there?
You're probably wondering, did he meet up with somebody?
No, he was alone.
And what we can tell you that he did when he got there
was that he pulled into the Cowboys smoke house
on North Main Street.
He grabbed himself a seat at the bar at this steak house
and he ordered himself some more food.
Specifically, Tyler Robinson ordered a steak,
medium rare with mashed potatoes and vegetables.
Tyler Robinson drove over three hours away
after the attack to go have a steak dinner.
And what's weirder about that?
I mean, that's kind of weird, but maybe he's just a stone cold killer
and he goes and he gets a steak dinner right after, right?
After he went to Dairy Queen 2, I might add.
Very hungry.
Murder makes you hungry.
Weird.
But anyways, the more notable tidbit about that
was that she got the receipts for his purchase of that dinner,
the credit card receipts.
And those receipts were turned over to the investigators
by the restaurant.
In other words, the investigators had not actually dug
through his credit card receipts or pull up his records to see,
all right, where did he go on the day of the murder?
They didn't go through those and contact the restaurant
to get those receipts.
This was days later and it was the restaurant
who voluntarily, like one of the bartenders was like,
I recognize this guy.
We got to see if there was any,
they don't have surveillance footage,
but they're like, I almost certain he was here.
They go through all of their receipts.
They find the receipt of Tyler Robinson paying for his food
and they then provide those receipts to the investigators.
I'm just like, there's just something so deeply off
about all of this that they're just totally disinterested
in digging.
They don't want to know if he worked alone.
And I'll tell you, when they don't want to know
if he worked alone, it's because they probably
already know you didn't.
All right, I'm going to end it there.
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