WEBVTT 00:02.450 --> 00:06.750 All rights reserved. We reserve all rights. 00:08.450 --> 00:16.010 What do we know about the history of the world? How are tissue sorts related to esoteric biochemistry? 00:16.830 --> 00:19.790 Do we even know the nature of the realm we inhabit? 00:20.790 --> 00:25.010 Hi, I'm Dawn Lester and this is Dawn of Discernment. 00:26.050 --> 00:30.950 Today's guest, some of you may have recognized at the very beginning, 00:31.340 --> 00:35.850 my good friend Steve Faulkner, the voice of spacebusters and many films, 00:36.910 --> 00:43.090 which I'm sure we'll get into talking about. So who is Steve if you don't know already? 00:43.850 --> 00:49.190 He's a multifaceted individual with expertise in various fields, including music, 00:49.750 --> 00:55.550 filmmaking, writing and research. He's a touring musician and music teacher. 00:55.550 --> 01:00.750 He's also a filmmaker best known for his work on the spacebusters video channels 01:01.310 --> 01:07.990 on YouTube, Bitshoot, Odyssey and other platforms. He's the author of children's books, including 01:07.990 --> 01:14.570 the latest one, The Goons, Laser Balloons and The Dukes of Dent, both of them available on Amazon. 01:15.050 --> 01:20.430 And yes, I know that sometimes we use these platforms, so Steve's holding them up. 01:21.350 --> 01:24.390 For anyone who's just listening, there will be links to the video 01:24.390 --> 01:31.030 version if you'd like to see more. So Steve has written articles and created 01:31.030 --> 01:36.290 content for Truth Theorem News under the pen name, Are You Sure?, which I think is an 01:36.290 --> 01:45.030 absolutely brilliant name because there's so much in that with the questioning, 01:45.190 --> 01:48.730 which is why I've chosen the title for this particular episode. 01:49.680 --> 01:56.410 So his topics of interest are wide and varied, very varied. So ranging from esoteric biochemistry, 01:56.830 --> 02:02.350 the Bible as allegory and cell sorts, to exploring life after death, reincarnation 02:02.350 --> 02:08.810 and magnetic light, to delving into cosmic secrets, Antarctica and the sun's behavior, 02:09.470 --> 02:14.330 to examining alternative history narratives, including the possibility of Old Testament 02:14.330 --> 02:22.250 events occurring in ancient England. Steve has a real talent for debunking or demystifying 02:22.250 --> 02:29.710 occulted information. So hi Steve and welcome. Thank you for coming on my podcast. How are you? 02:30.370 --> 02:34.130 Well, I'm well done. It's great to catch up again. Well, we always talk offline, so 02:34.990 --> 02:40.670 we do a lot, but I'm very honored to be on your podcast. I've been looking forward to it. 02:40.670 --> 02:46.790 I am suffering. I don't know if you call it pink eye or I don't know what's wrong. My eyes very 02:46.790 --> 02:53.690 swollen and today, like I'm a big believer in terrain, so I don't really care what's causing it. 02:53.730 --> 02:58.230 I'm not worried. My body is brilliant. It will heal it. Inflammation is your friend, 02:58.350 --> 03:04.510 but like we were talking offline, there are sometimes when I need to be able to see today 03:04.510 --> 03:09.670 and read, you know, and if your eye is swollen, I've been putting a teabags on thanks to Felix, 03:10.290 --> 03:15.530 just to bring the swelling down, which I know I need the inflammation. It's not going to cure 03:15.530 --> 03:22.010 whatever is causing it. Something's trying to get out. But, you know, that's really why I like 03:22.010 --> 03:27.930 what you do and why I like terrain. I understand that it's my body is trying to fix itself 03:27.930 --> 03:34.690 if I stay out of the way. But there are sometimes, you know, where you, I'm very anti-big pharma, 03:34.850 --> 03:39.090 but I will take aspirin if I have a toothache, you know, if it just hurts so bad, like, 03:39.650 --> 03:45.450 I will do it, you know, and you guys, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was going to say, I agree. I mean, 03:45.710 --> 03:50.170 I pain is one of the big things. If people are in severe pain, then you can't function, 03:50.170 --> 03:55.050 or as you say, with certain information, I think here we call pink eye conjunctive 03:55.050 --> 04:02.750 conjunctive itis. So again, it's the itis, the inflammation. So I mean, I am not one for suggesting 04:02.750 --> 04:09.030 people don't do anything to help relieve the symptoms so they can function and then 04:09.890 --> 04:15.010 recognize that the body is healing. It's just a question of what they use. And like you, 04:15.710 --> 04:20.790 wouldn't go to big pharma at the same time. If there's something, I mean, I read not that 04:20.790 --> 04:28.330 long a few weeks ago, had a bad back and I couldn't move. I didn't use them, but I had some pain killers 04:28.330 --> 04:34.750 if it had gone on for longer than just the sort of day or two. So totally with you that there are 04:34.750 --> 04:41.470 times when we need to use something to help us. Yeah, no, no gain. I mean, the pain, 04:42.190 --> 04:47.270 the pain is there to tell you something's wrong. Yes. And then like the pain killer, 04:47.270 --> 04:52.670 once you recognize that all right, something's wrong, you can kill the pain. So you're like, 04:52.690 --> 04:57.410 I got it, something's wrong. It's the people who think that the aspirin are going to cure your 04:57.410 --> 05:02.310 headache. It's not it's just going to stop the effect of it. You need to address why you have 05:02.310 --> 05:06.950 the headache. And again, like the teabags aren't going to take down my eye swelling. I don't know 05:06.950 --> 05:11.970 why it's swollen. I sleep with an sleeping mask. I might have poked myself eyelashes could 05:11.970 --> 05:18.270 have turned under maybe I'm detoxing. I don't know. But you know, you guys have illuminate and 05:18.270 --> 05:26.650 elevate coming up, right? 13th, 14th, September, we do talking some about this. And then I know 05:26.650 --> 05:32.190 there's a terrainology. There's a conference coming up in New York, September 26, 28th, 05:32.190 --> 05:39.190 with like Andy Kaufman, Tofer Gardner, Anna Maria Olivia and Marisela Arce, 05:39.190 --> 05:44.110 who's got her new book out to germs are not your enemy. That's the thing, like I had to go 05:44.110 --> 05:47.970 into my gigs the last two nights, right? And everyone's like, I think you have pink eye, 05:48.110 --> 05:55.190 don't hug me. Oh, typical, typical. Yes. Even if it's pink eye, it's not contagious. Like 05:55.190 --> 06:01.750 don't worry about it. But yeah, so you know, I'm just like, well, whatever, it'll go away. 06:01.890 --> 06:06.130 Like, you know, I'm taking some salt salts and I'll just let it heal. That's how it 06:06.130 --> 06:12.510 works. Yeah, I think sometimes, like you said, the pain is a message, as long as we recognize 06:12.510 --> 06:19.410 that it's a message. And sometimes the pain is to have a rest. And you can't rest properly if you're 06:19.410 --> 06:23.870 in pain. So maybe take something and then while you're sleeping, your body starts the healing 06:23.870 --> 06:28.230 process. So I mean, there are various different ways. And that's one of the things to start 06:28.230 --> 06:34.590 listening to our own bodies. Because we don't have that knowledge, we're not taught that. And 06:34.590 --> 06:41.830 we need to listen, start learning to listen to our bodies. And yes, interesting. Yes. Andy 06:41.830 --> 06:47.430 Kaufman is common to both of those events, the Traynology and Illuminate and Elevate. So, 06:47.610 --> 06:54.210 yeah, it's exciting to have him. Yeah, I was supposed to be at Illuminate and Elevate as 06:54.210 --> 06:58.490 well. But I had to turn it down to do some other stuff I got going on with like visa renewals. 06:58.730 --> 07:02.970 But so I can't leave the country. But I was really bummed because I was supposed to speak 07:02.970 --> 07:07.430 with you guys. And I was really looking forward. But I can't do it. But you know, 07:07.450 --> 07:12.790 like what you're saying, it's not, it's not just physical actually, like the physical pain tells 07:12.790 --> 07:17.090 you when you have a physical body problem. But it's the same when you're like depressed and in 07:17.090 --> 07:20.750 emotional pain and all that it's telling you when you have a spiritual problem when 07:20.750 --> 07:26.410 something in your life has happened that you're upset about and you have some conflicts to 07:26.410 --> 07:33.890 resolve. So it's the same thing when people take antidepressants. As if you're not allowed to be 07:33.890 --> 07:41.150 sad and depressed, you know, you're like the reason you're sad is your spirits dictating through 07:41.150 --> 07:46.390 your spirit that you're upset about something and you have to resolve this issue, whatever 07:46.390 --> 07:51.430 happened this event. And that can lead into the physical as you and, you know, you've got 07:51.430 --> 07:57.370 books about this, like what happens when you, you know, the placebo knows CBO hire your mental 07:57.370 --> 08:03.190 and emotional state can affect your physical state and vice versa. So you know, it's a good 08:03.190 --> 08:09.330 metaphor, like you need to listen to not only your body, but also your mind, like you're not 08:09.330 --> 08:15.070 crazy. It's okay to be depressed. You can't dwell on it for your life, just like you 08:15.070 --> 08:19.370 can't take big pharma to get rid of a problem, you know, can't take aspirin for life and 08:19.370 --> 08:25.350 get rid of your problem. Prozac won't do that either, but it's okay to be upset about 08:26.090 --> 08:31.850 life changing events. Yes. And as well as the, you know, the power of the mind, but also 08:31.850 --> 08:36.710 recognizing our language. So if you have thoughts going through your head, it's to 08:36.710 --> 08:42.050 look at the thoughts and the language and tell your, recognize what you are telling 08:42.050 --> 08:47.050 yourself within that message. And it could be all sorts of things, you know, because 08:47.050 --> 08:53.850 there are a lot of ways that we can have low self-esteem and self-respect and low 08:53.850 --> 08:58.670 self-confidence due to whatever it is. And if you start, if you shut that down, you're not going 08:58.670 --> 09:03.690 to get to, like with the physical health thing, you're not going to get to the root and you 09:03.690 --> 09:09.590 have to address the root calls to get to resolve whatever it is, whether it's physically, 09:09.590 --> 09:14.790 emotionally, or psychologically, just to then clear it through and 09:16.750 --> 09:24.070 bind your way forward in life. Yeah, the language is important too. I've been trying 09:24.070 --> 09:30.130 to stop myself because I love cooking. Like I cook a lot and in American slang, we say, 09:30.190 --> 09:34.010 like, this shit's really good. You know, we can swear on your podcast, right? Yeah. 09:34.290 --> 09:37.210 Like this shit's that, you know, this is the shit. And I'm like, wait a minute, 09:37.210 --> 09:41.790 I'm calling my food shit. But I don't mean it like that. But it really like, 09:41.910 --> 09:46.470 I'm trying to stop myself from saying that, you know, I'm trying to, because you're energizing 09:46.470 --> 09:50.990 your food through words and vibration. And it's the same, you know, when you start, 09:51.090 --> 09:55.990 I know a lot of people who just they start to fall in love with their misery. They complain 09:55.990 --> 10:05.630 so much about everything that they almost like get attached to complaining in their misery. It's 10:05.630 --> 10:09.270 like, well, you just want to be miserable because you want something to complain about, 10:09.310 --> 10:14.570 not that they actually want to, but it just starts happening. You know, this pattern starts 10:14.570 --> 10:21.050 ingraining because all is energy. And these patterns just are, you know, way stronger and 10:21.050 --> 10:28.430 stronger. Yeah. And turn into habits. Yeah. Yeah. And yes, I mean, that's it. And it's 10:28.430 --> 10:34.290 quite often it's breaking ourselves out of these habits and patterns, recognizing there are 10:34.290 --> 10:41.050 patterns. And, you know, as you say, some people like, like that, or maybe they just, 10:41.490 --> 10:46.250 they're not aware, I don't know it, because everyone's different. So I'm not general, I don't 10:46.250 --> 10:51.170 generalize because we are all different and we all have our own journey. And it's still 10:51.170 --> 10:55.230 important to recognize the importance of our words. I mean, one of the things I say, you 10:55.230 --> 10:59.390 know, when people are talking about food is if they say, Oh, I know this is bad for me, 10:59.390 --> 11:06.050 and then eat it and go, really? It's like, okay, you're sending that message into your body. And 11:06.050 --> 11:11.310 and, you know, again, it's a habit but not realizing the energetic of saying something 11:11.310 --> 11:15.650 like you like you were saying about about your food. And even though you know your intention 11:15.650 --> 11:21.190 when you're using that word, isn't that it's rubbish, it's good. It's just, you should 11:21.190 --> 11:26.310 say the language. And maybe it's the energy as well. So maybe it's not just the word, 11:26.310 --> 11:32.270 the energy behind it. It is a words have energy like language is formed by energetic 11:32.270 --> 11:38.170 patterns. But like you, you don't know that's bad for you. When you say that it's because 11:38.170 --> 11:42.390 someone out in the news said, don't eat, you know, Doritos, there, but you know, 11:42.390 --> 11:47.450 somebody in the health industry said, they're bad for you. They are like, I agree. If 11:47.450 --> 11:52.370 you live on Doritos, you're probably going to have some huge health problems. But a bag of 11:52.370 --> 11:57.830 Doritos isn't going to kill you unless every time you have one, you have guilt and doubt 11:57.830 --> 12:02.970 and issues. Oh my God, there's chemicals and e numbers. You're like, yeah, but it's a bag 12:02.970 --> 12:06.470 of Doritos like your body can handle it. You can't live on Doritos. 12:07.110 --> 12:13.350 That's the difference. That's such an important point. No, it's a question of a balance. And 12:13.350 --> 12:17.590 also, you know, the whole approach to food as well. I mean, this wasn't where we 12:17.590 --> 12:22.190 were going to go, but we're here anyway. It's the whole, it's the whole approach to what you're 12:22.190 --> 12:27.290 about to eat. And, you know, I know, Adam Bigglesons is one of his things. It's like, you know, 12:27.370 --> 12:32.570 to eat with joy. And I think he's absolutely right, you know, to whatever it is, eat with 12:32.570 --> 12:37.630 joy. And if you're eating some Doritos or a cream cake or some chocolate, and I love 12:37.630 --> 12:42.390 chocolate, so, you know, I, I'm not denying myself because again, I'm setting something up. 12:42.390 --> 12:47.050 We've got, oh, if I, oh, I mustn't have that. You just just just setting yourself up with all 12:47.050 --> 12:52.790 kinds of energetic conflict when you, it's, you know, you want to have something, but it's 12:52.790 --> 12:56.650 when you then feel, oh, it's bad and I mustn't. So it's just all these 12:57.950 --> 13:04.190 ideas to, to realize that they are conditions we don't have to hang on to. But as you say, 13:04.310 --> 13:10.910 it is recognizing that there is a difference between food, you know, real food that is 13:10.910 --> 13:18.210 nourishing and occasional things like, you know, Doritos or chocolates or ice cream or whatever, 13:18.410 --> 13:24.650 you know, it just, it's to get that, get a balance really. And, and also to enjoy what you eat when 13:24.650 --> 13:30.610 you eat it. Well, that's it because, you know, people will say, hang on, an obese person can 13:30.610 --> 13:35.530 say, I really enjoy eating bricks of chatter and pints of ice cream at two in the morning. 13:36.170 --> 13:39.950 They don't, they're doing it as an emotional crutch because they're up at two in the 13:39.950 --> 13:44.510 morning because they're worried about some emotional thing. They're eating for that. However, 13:45.350 --> 13:51.730 I personally think that even if you're obese and emotionally eating for the wrong reason, 13:52.270 --> 13:58.710 if you actually stopped eating because you are using it as a crutch and say, I am, 13:58.790 --> 14:03.610 I'm eating cheddar because I enjoy an ice cream, I think you will stop eating so much 14:03.610 --> 14:09.130 because you will get fulfilled. If you're eating to fill a gap that you won't emotionally 14:09.130 --> 14:15.430 take the time to fill, no amount of ice cream and cheddar cheese in the world or McDonald's burgers 14:15.430 --> 14:21.090 will fill it. But if you switch the mindset to say, I'm eating because I love ice cream, 14:21.510 --> 14:25.530 then eventually you will say, I've had enough freaking ice cream, like, you know, 14:25.850 --> 14:32.230 a half a tub is fine. You know, so you've got to switch your eating from your eating as a crutch 14:32.230 --> 14:37.050 to something else. That's what I'm saying. Don't feel it's the, the guilt will make 14:37.050 --> 14:40.810 you eat even more because that's going to give you more to sit up worried about. You're like, 14:40.810 --> 14:46.190 not only am I depressed, I'm also fat. You can't stop eating and I'm going to eat more. Yeah. 14:46.810 --> 14:48.590 You know, it just cannonballs down. 14:49.690 --> 14:54.510 Oh, totally. That's the cycle. Absolutely. That's the cycle, which, yeah, I mean, 14:54.530 --> 15:00.170 it's such a good point of, and this is, you know, it's, this is not judgmental. This is 15:00.170 --> 15:05.550 just sharing that, you know, people can be eating for some kind of comfort. I mean, 15:05.550 --> 15:09.430 you know, there is that phrase comfort eating. And, you know, I've done the occasion, we just feel 15:09.430 --> 15:15.930 fed up and, you know, whatever. And at the same time, you recognize it and you don't have to make 15:15.930 --> 15:23.370 it a pattern. But I think sometimes it's the excuses that people use, oh, I can't x, y, z. So 15:23.830 --> 15:28.370 that's also setting up a pattern of I can't and go, well, why do you think you can't? And 15:28.370 --> 15:33.450 when you drill down, it's to get down those layers of why people have these habits. 15:33.450 --> 15:38.370 And it quite often goes to something where they were told something at some point that they 15:38.370 --> 15:45.110 couldn't do whatever it was or they were seen as worthless. It's a self-value thing. There's all 15:45.110 --> 15:52.010 of that. So I know, I mean, it's a huge, it's a huge rabbit hole. We're just so conditioned to 15:52.010 --> 15:56.330 think in a certain way. And, you know, then the big farmer comes along and says, oh, we've 15:56.330 --> 16:03.490 got a pill for your ear. We just know. However, lots of people are learning. And also, thanks to 16:03.490 --> 16:09.570 your films over the last few years, we'll get to those shortly. But as I said, you are at heart 16:09.570 --> 16:18.250 a musician, aren't you? Which some people know. So was that always your first love going into 16:18.250 --> 16:25.010 music, playing music? I think it was. As a kid, I was writing songs already at four or five years 16:25.010 --> 16:30.130 old. And my mom would take me to my grandma's and they had these like toy children's instruments 16:30.130 --> 16:35.230 around. And I was, I could play anything like a xylophone or a little toy piano or whatever. I 16:35.230 --> 16:40.790 was just tinkering around. And my uncles turned me on the guitar. And later, you know, my mom 16:40.790 --> 16:46.170 and dad got divorced. And my mom moved in with my stepdad who had a piano from his former wife 16:46.170 --> 16:51.070 and no one in the house played it. So I just taught myself like how to play the piano off the 16:51.070 --> 16:56.590 radio, you know, and kind of went from there. So I was always really musically inclined. And then, 16:56.630 --> 17:01.110 yeah, like a lot of musicians, I had the dream and I had the original band to like, 17:01.410 --> 17:05.930 we thought we were going to be, you know, the next Radiohead and U2 and Pink Floyd, you know, 17:05.950 --> 17:11.190 we thought all that. And we did really well, but we didn't do that. Like it's really hard 17:11.190 --> 17:17.590 industry. But we made money, we made albums, we toured around and stuff. And now I'm a 17:17.590 --> 17:22.970 music teacher for like beginner students on five instruments and band. And I personally 17:22.970 --> 17:27.750 play around with my own band and myself, but we're only playing covers and bars around Scandinavia. 17:28.090 --> 17:35.270 So it's not my music, which was the dream. But you know, my goal was to make a living playing 17:35.270 --> 17:42.050 music. And that I've been doing for 20 some years now. So to me, I've learned like, and it's 17:42.050 --> 17:46.470 actually more fun and more happy because you're not so involved. And it's not like, 17:46.470 --> 17:51.610 you're not so proud because they're not your songs. And it's easier to have a good gig because 17:51.610 --> 17:58.110 you can pick a hit at every song you play could be a hit already established. So I just really enjoy 17:58.870 --> 18:02.450 being around music, playing music, everyone's like, what's your favorite band? I'm like, 18:02.470 --> 18:06.390 I don't have one. What's your favorite song? I don't know. I just love music. 18:07.250 --> 18:12.950 Okay, wonderful. I mean, that's yeah, some stuff in there. I didn't know. So 18:12.950 --> 18:19.670 hopefully a few other people will have learned a bit more about you. So what types of 18:22.150 --> 18:26.790 songs do you play? I mean, is it very varied? Because as you say, different hits. I mean, 18:26.890 --> 18:33.290 you always asked, I mean, rock or whatever. Yeah, a lot of sing-alongs known stuff, 18:33.510 --> 18:40.050 you know, Sweet Home, Alabama, Country Roads to, you know, Sweet Caroline to, 18:40.590 --> 18:46.210 we'll play Nirvana. Like, I don't care just anything, just more party stuff people know. 18:46.490 --> 18:51.650 And, you know, it's an, I'm an entertainment on the stage. I'm in big pubs with people out 18:51.650 --> 18:55.790 drinking at night. Like, I'm there to have a good time and get everyone to have a good time 18:55.790 --> 19:02.030 together, not to be like some self inverted guy getting off on his, you know, is on the, 19:02.670 --> 19:07.830 getting his rocks off without worrying about the crowd. Like, music, music is an exchange. 19:07.830 --> 19:13.450 It's an energetic exchange between you and the audience. So you're dancing with your audience. 19:14.030 --> 19:19.450 And if you start playing, I don't do set lists, if you start playing the kind of songs and they're 19:19.450 --> 19:24.690 not in that mood, it doesn't work that way. You know, like, you've got to feel a rat and then 19:24.690 --> 19:29.730 slowly build it up. So I like to keep it loose. But that's how life should be, too. 19:30.570 --> 19:33.750 You know, we're so rigid in our beliefs and stuff. Like, you have to be able to 19:33.750 --> 19:39.370 adapt to what's going on right now. Like, we're in a soup of constant changing energy. So 19:39.370 --> 19:43.890 you can't approach that with one life strategy. It's not going to work. 19:44.790 --> 19:49.750 No. And as you say, important point is reading the room and see where people are and what hits 19:49.750 --> 20:03.730 the spot. But in terms of your own music, what you listen to at home, or do you have a 20:03.730 --> 20:10.790 do you go by your mood? Is it sometimes just my mood? Yeah, I don't actually listen anymore 20:10.790 --> 20:16.850 to a lot of music because I play four or five nights a week. So I play so much like I don't 20:16.850 --> 20:22.050 want to sit at home and hear music anymore than a chef wants to sit at home cooking pancakes all 20:22.050 --> 20:28.090 day. You know, like I need a break from it. But I love classical jazz rock country. I like 20:28.090 --> 20:32.830 Madonna. I don't the modern music, you know, I'm not into Taylor Swift and all that crap. 20:32.830 --> 20:37.390 But if there's a good song, there's a few Lady Gaga songs I think are pretty good, 20:37.390 --> 20:42.210 even though she's what she is, but are he or she or whatever she is. But you know, 20:42.390 --> 20:46.970 so I just think like if it's a good song, you know a good song when you like one. 20:48.650 --> 20:53.450 Yeah, I was going to say actually, because this is a good segue into my next point, 20:53.470 --> 20:59.070 which is about the music industry, which is probably good that you didn't go down that 20:59.070 --> 21:04.870 route of becoming a big band because you may well have all your band becoming big and well known 21:04.870 --> 21:12.250 because you may have been drawn into this industry, which we know is just not about music. It's 21:12.250 --> 21:22.950 really been hijacked, infiltrated, destroyed, ruined. I mean, how aware were you of all of this 21:22.950 --> 21:30.110 and was because you were within that field of music? How soon did you did you see all of that? 21:30.290 --> 21:36.050 What's going on in the industry? How how soon were you aware of it? I mean, you kind of saw it like 21:36.050 --> 21:42.770 I got lucky. Our band was going down that road. Like we were we had a manager whose brother 21:42.770 --> 21:47.970 was the executive producer for top of the pops and what used to be the tube. So we were like 21:47.970 --> 21:52.230 in the star bar, then we went on tour in America and we had the Rolling Stone magazine 21:52.230 --> 21:57.350 was going to do a write up on us in Owens garage of the knitting factory. But then 9-11 21:57.350 --> 22:02.910 happened while we were in Chicago on tour. So we couldn't even finish those gigs because the 22:02.910 --> 22:08.670 clubs were under rubble or in ground zero. And then, you know, we had to go to England and we 22:08.670 --> 22:13.690 couldn't get our gear back because you couldn't ship it. So we kind of like we're almost on 22:13.690 --> 22:19.090 that route. And then everything 9-11 like screwed all that up for us sort of and then 22:19.090 --> 22:25.890 so I could have gone down that path. And we didn't see it. Like they were at like they were asking 22:25.890 --> 22:30.690 we were trying to make our music go a certain way. And they were like, no, we want you to do more of 22:30.690 --> 22:37.190 this stuff kind of, you know, stuff we used to do that was, I don't know what to call it, 22:37.930 --> 22:42.950 more pop. I could see how like you could get driven like just make a record like this. 22:43.270 --> 22:46.810 And then you can do whatever you want. I think this happens to all these artists. 22:46.810 --> 22:51.370 They don't, they're not all in there like trying to be Satan's servants, you know, 22:51.470 --> 22:55.710 and signing contracts with the devil. They're all told this. They're like, you guys have talent, 22:56.030 --> 23:02.810 do this, dress like this, do these drugs, whatever. And then after you sell, you can do 23:02.810 --> 23:07.070 whatever you want. But that's not how it works because the way they do it is they give you 23:07.070 --> 23:11.530 less advanced, they give you a big advance that they have to recoup. They put you in debt 23:11.530 --> 23:17.330 on your first record if they even sign you. And then usually they don't even release you, 23:17.410 --> 23:21.770 they're doing that as a tax write off to one of their bigger artists. But if you do get out there, 23:22.170 --> 23:27.250 you start owning them more and more money. And they usually sign you to like six or seven deals 23:27.250 --> 23:32.070 where you're going to lose your shirt. So yeah. And then you get an accountant. So 23:32.070 --> 23:36.170 yeah, you get to live in hotels and tear out the walls and you're on tour. And it's 23:36.170 --> 23:40.350 because the musicians just want to be in the spotlight and make the records. They don't 23:40.350 --> 23:44.970 really care about the money. So long as they're not starving, they want to be out doing it. 23:45.110 --> 23:50.530 This is how they get you, you know, and then eventually those people like some of them want to 23:50.530 --> 23:56.410 be, it seems that like the women get sucked more, doesn't it? Like Katy Perry, Britney Spears, 23:56.910 --> 23:59.990 it's less guys who get trapped by it. I don't know why. 24:02.990 --> 24:07.190 If you know what I mean, although bands are going. Yeah, yeah, I was going to say you 24:07.190 --> 24:11.230 could be right. But I mean, the bands, I mean, it goes back to the 60s, 70s. But I mean, 24:11.990 --> 24:18.890 in a way, 9-11 did you a favor, which might sound bizarre. And I'm not 24:19.790 --> 24:24.890 condoning or whatever. Anyway, we'll leave that one to one side. We've got our own views on 24:24.890 --> 24:31.170 all of that. What I'm saying is like with the, you know, the 2020 COVID nonsense, you know, 24:31.310 --> 24:36.650 that there's, there have been many gifts coming out of that. So again, with what happened, 24:37.210 --> 24:41.450 because you were close, I wasn't going to say, so the 9-11, because it sounds like you were close. 24:41.530 --> 24:48.350 I didn't realize you were quite in that space. So again, this is, this is great to hear more 24:48.350 --> 24:53.090 about you and your career and just where you were. We were there, yeah. Yeah. We were right 24:53.090 --> 24:58.610 there. Yeah, we had a tour from the Midwest and then through New York. And we were in Chicago 24:59.030 --> 25:02.170 and 9-11 happened. I came out in the bathroom at whatever in the morning. 25:03.210 --> 25:07.710 And my band was sitting around the TV and I thought they were watching the movie. I went to 25:07.710 --> 25:12.290 take a pee and I'm like, what are you guys watching? They're like a plane or a bomb blew 25:12.290 --> 25:16.650 up in the World Trade Center. And I was like, God, I thought it was a movie. And then like, 25:16.690 --> 25:21.690 sure enough, the second explosion or we saw a plane hit, you know, and posted it. But 25:21.690 --> 25:27.530 yeah, we're like, holy shit. So it pretty much like ruined our career. But I think save mine. 25:28.210 --> 25:33.430 A lot of, a lot of musicians are truthers. Actually, if you ever notice like a lot of 25:33.430 --> 25:40.670 positions are open to it. Unfortunately, during Convid, they were all the ones I know are out 25:40.670 --> 25:46.250 taking quadruple boosters and jabs and they were, they turned into the biggest sheeple. I was so 25:46.250 --> 25:51.030 upset, you know, I was like, where are, where are the artists like the 60s? This should have 25:51.030 --> 25:55.250 been the time to shine. And they weren't doing it, which is why I ended up later hooking 25:55.250 --> 25:59.990 up with Alex Michael, who you're going to his party like, you know, conspiracy music guru is 25:59.990 --> 26:03.910 one of the few guys who's actually like making music about what's going on. So I was like, 26:03.970 --> 26:08.770 all right, I'm done with this. Like, this is cool, you know, so. Yes. Well, 26:09.150 --> 26:13.450 well, slight spoiler that he will be on the podcast in a couple of weeks. 26:13.850 --> 26:18.050 Yeah. And Steve Young, too, as well. Yes, absolutely. I just saw Steve and Stalin. 26:18.610 --> 26:26.190 Yes. Well, I guess I've had Steve as a guest on the podcast. So, yeah. And it's interesting. So many 26:26.190 --> 26:36.570 people I know are musicians. So it's interesting that, like you say, they're aware of what's 26:36.570 --> 26:42.190 going on. And it's also another medium that can be used to share the message, 26:43.000 --> 26:46.950 not just straightforward, you know, telling people whatever it is, you know, 26:46.950 --> 26:50.810 like with your films, and so we'll get into that. So there are different media 26:51.830 --> 26:56.950 sharing the message with people. So because because we're all different, so people will get, 26:57.290 --> 27:02.850 will resonate more with certain messages in a particular way. So certainly musically, 27:02.850 --> 27:08.910 it's good to get that out. I mean, you, you haven't, you haven't taken that route, 27:08.970 --> 27:12.210 although you've you've gone, you've gone down the route of making films, 27:12.210 --> 27:18.490 which if people haven't seen them, they are amazing. Thank you. And yeah, no, I mean, 27:19.010 --> 27:25.530 yes, I heard your voice long before I even knew who you were. So yes. And then it was like, 27:25.750 --> 27:29.650 oh, that's you. Oh, okay. Well, you know what, like, Don, real quick, like, 27:30.330 --> 27:34.290 even during Convid, you could see the big one like Rage Against the Machine. This is the 27:34.290 --> 27:38.030 band who got famous for a song. F you, I won't do what you tell me. They're telling 27:38.030 --> 27:42.490 they're rage against the system. And then you couldn't come to their show if you didn't get the 27:42.490 --> 27:47.130 jibber jabber and the Rolling Stones, you know, you're like, what is, you can see when you're 27:47.130 --> 27:52.770 at the higher levels, like Mark Devlin has talked a lot about this, they sold out like they had 27:52.770 --> 27:59.070 to, they have no choice. When you're a musician, one of the things is music requires left and 27:59.070 --> 28:04.070 right brain cooperation. That's why I think a lot of musicians are truthers because 28:04.070 --> 28:09.190 they're already not locked in the left brain. They have more of an open right brain that actually, 28:09.310 --> 28:14.110 and they're not too right brain where they're just out in wildland, you know, like Crystal 28:14.110 --> 28:20.270 Healing and New Age stuff like that. We have a little more of a, our job requires our brain 28:20.270 --> 28:27.870 works together. So that's why I think a lot of them are truthers. But I was shocked that a lot 28:27.870 --> 28:32.030 of them didn't want to do anything about it, you know, it went out and just followed the 28:32.030 --> 28:38.810 jibber and I was like, what? So, you know, but yeah, yeah, but go on, yes. So I just want to 28:38.810 --> 28:44.030 interject that. No, no, I mean, that's a good point. And Mark Devlin is also going to be at a 28:44.030 --> 28:49.470 illuminate and elevate if anyone hasn't thought his work because I, yeah, I came across his work 28:50.210 --> 28:56.210 many years ago. I mean, I, it must have been before 2020, because I'm sure I was aware of, 28:56.770 --> 29:03.890 well, I'd been researching a whole load of topics long before 2020. So it was just, you know, 29:04.670 --> 29:10.250 the pinnacle of the health thing. But, you know, I'd been researching and looking broad and wide 29:10.250 --> 29:18.570 into all areas. And I'm, I tend to be a big picture person. So I kind of gather the pieces 29:18.570 --> 29:24.210 and start seeing how the jigsaw pieces, you know, how they all fit together. And even 29:24.210 --> 29:30.470 though we never have the full picture, but when you have more and more pieces, you start to 29:30.470 --> 29:35.910 get a sense of what the picture is looking like, even though you're constantly adding more and 29:35.910 --> 29:41.350 more to it. So, and so yeah, I mean, as you say, the left and right brain, but I mean, the 29:42.750 --> 29:48.890 in terms of writing your own music, that then turned to writing, not musically. So 29:48.890 --> 29:56.710 what moved you into actually writing articles and taking on the name, are you sure, you know, 29:56.730 --> 30:02.570 moving into just that pure writing, John, without being for music? 30:03.590 --> 30:08.390 Yeah. Well, I think, like, I was one of those kids I hated school. And I did. 30:09.210 --> 30:16.370 Yeah, I'm sure you know, really, what a shocker. I only like music class, art class. And for 30:16.370 --> 30:20.650 some reason, I loved English and creative writing. Those were like, I love that in school, 30:20.730 --> 30:26.150 and I got aces in those. So for some reason, I like to write. I'm the same now, you know, 30:26.210 --> 30:31.790 like we're on digital media, a lot of people on Telegram. You know, when I talk with someone, 30:32.150 --> 30:35.690 it will do like someone will send me a voice message, because they like to talk. 30:36.430 --> 30:41.690 And I more comfortable writing back, I barely ever send back a voice message, like I don't 30:41.690 --> 30:46.730 like to hit record and talk into that thing. I feel stupid. But I can write very eloquently. 30:46.930 --> 30:52.970 That's just how I am. So yeah, you know, I've been researching a lot, songwriting helped me a lot. 30:52.990 --> 30:58.690 So I write and rhythm and cadence and all that. So I'm comfortable with writing. I'm 30:58.690 --> 31:03.890 comfortable with talking. I went to school to be a radio broadcast disc jockey, like I wanted 31:03.890 --> 31:11.290 to have my own radio show. But I can talk to you. But I have a lot of trouble if I have to 31:11.290 --> 31:16.950 talk into my screen just without, you know, just go. But yet I write my films that way, 31:16.970 --> 31:22.170 but because I don't have to say the whole script. So what I'm really doing, if anyone's wondering, 31:22.230 --> 31:27.950 how are you writing these films? I do not write the Space Busters film out. I don't have a script. 31:28.470 --> 31:33.930 I know what I want to talk about. And I write a piece at a time. And then I say it and record 31:33.930 --> 31:38.430 it. So I'm not sitting there like reading a script and making a movie around it. I'm 31:38.430 --> 31:43.290 making a movie around little parts of what I say. I have no idea how the movie is going to end. 31:43.990 --> 31:48.210 I don't know where it's going. I just know what I want it to say. That's how I work. 31:48.610 --> 31:53.150 Oh, right. So you don't even have like an, like an overview. 31:55.610 --> 31:58.950 What's the word? Like like a summary, just just to kind of, you know, bullet points, 31:59.070 --> 32:05.150 you just go, so, oh, okay. Oh, interesting. But I know like a song has to have a verse 32:05.150 --> 32:10.630 and a chorus and it starts with a chorus. It's better. So what I do is I make an intro that I like. 32:11.070 --> 32:16.310 I just, I know what I want to make a film about. And I make a one or two minute intro that's 32:16.310 --> 32:22.530 kicking. So anyone who watches my films is like, yeah, it starts off great. And I just go off 32:22.530 --> 32:28.110 script and go off track. Then I know that eventually the end has to tie into the beginning 32:28.110 --> 32:31.630 like a song. You have to end with a chorus. If you start with one, I get it. 32:32.150 --> 32:38.450 So, but I'm figuring that out as I go. And it just always does because maybe because 32:38.450 --> 32:44.250 I song, right? Maybe because I ad-lib a lot at my job, you know, I have to, you know, 32:44.310 --> 32:49.150 working in the music on stage. I have to be versatile and ad-lib. We don't play the same 32:49.150 --> 32:53.930 song the same every night. Like it's different. And so I don't know. I just feel more comfortable. 32:53.930 --> 32:59.090 I can't write a script and then do that. I can't do that. 33:01.270 --> 33:05.170 I'm more comfortable doing this where, you know, we're like, what are we going to talk 33:05.170 --> 33:08.710 about? And we're like, I don't know, but I better go two hours and be great. 33:10.950 --> 33:15.790 I have no doubt we'll have no problem. No doubt that, you know, the easel flow. 33:16.890 --> 33:22.270 And I've got notes and when I'm more than, I know we're going to go, these are just 33:22.270 --> 33:27.270 bullet points. So I know we're going to range around it and go off on all sorts of 33:27.270 --> 33:33.410 tangents, which is fine, as I said, because you have so many topics that you've looked into. 33:33.770 --> 33:40.330 And some are, you know, I've looked into as well. And some are like, you're like far, 33:40.370 --> 33:46.290 far deeper than I've gone. So I'll just, you know, leave them to keep going with that. 33:46.290 --> 33:51.850 But I, well, I mean, there are some. So with, I mean, that all makes sense with the 33:52.690 --> 33:59.210 music moving into the writing and then again, into the space busters and producing the films. 33:59.850 --> 34:04.790 So, I mean, what took you into space busters and writing the films? 34:06.350 --> 34:12.490 Yeah. So I started writing because I was researching so much and everyone around me 34:12.490 --> 34:16.930 seemed to sleep. Yeah. The only reason people are listening to me is I was saying all the 34:16.930 --> 34:23.870 shit we're saying today, back in 2005 and six, and I was like way, way ahead of the game, 34:23.890 --> 34:29.030 like deep, but I wasn't really because there was G Edward Griffin, David, like, you know, 34:29.050 --> 34:33.790 I don't even agree with all these people said, but Bill Cooper and like, there was all these 34:33.790 --> 34:39.530 people back then who had been doing this for 30 years. But nobody seemed to be talking about 34:39.530 --> 34:45.450 it. You know, back then I was, I was like, well, I write well. And my friend was like, hey, 34:45.550 --> 34:49.230 I followed this newspaper and used to write articles on there. And she said, why don't you 34:49.230 --> 34:53.110 run the paper with me? I was like, yeah, same with the children's books. Like, 34:53.910 --> 34:57.270 because songwriting, you have to write a lot of rhyme and cadence and rhythm. 34:57.590 --> 35:02.170 And I grew up on Dr. Seuss. I saw I thought that guy was the greatest. And I was, 35:02.270 --> 35:07.610 I read my children, Dr. Seuss. And I love my favorite book of his was Oh, 35:07.610 --> 35:13.070 The Places You Will Go, which is it's like that. And then in the middle, it's like, 35:13.170 --> 35:17.630 it really dark. It just takes a way left turn, like, and everything will be great. 35:17.730 --> 35:21.970 But sometimes it won't, you know, and he just takes the kids like it's not all peaches and cream 35:21.970 --> 35:26.290 kiddo. And I was like, wow. And then he brings them up at the end. You know, I was like, 35:26.370 --> 35:32.530 that's amazing. So even with songwriting and with with growing up on Seuss and schooling 35:32.530 --> 35:37.810 my kids on Seuss, that's how the children's book became really a natural step for that. 35:38.330 --> 35:43.730 And the writing was easy. But then Ross, who's the real spacebusters, I'm not spacebusters. 35:44.410 --> 35:50.250 It's Ross Porter. He started spacebusters, just busting on like, 35:51.270 --> 35:56.710 NASA pretty much, you know, we weren't even flat earthers. We were just busting on NASA 35:56.710 --> 36:03.730 and all that crap. And and yeah, like lowbusters found us and like we had a tiny little channel, 36:03.930 --> 36:10.470 we had one video, nobody owns the air that got like 380,000 views on YouTube. And that got us 36:11.350 --> 36:17.030 advertising, like right to have commercials. And then like we got noticed by people and they 36:17.030 --> 36:21.290 started and I thought, oh, well, if you I can do this too, like that sounds fun. I'd like to 36:21.290 --> 36:26.930 make movies. Like if he's making little films, why can't I? And we made them together, you know, 36:26.950 --> 36:32.610 and I made my own and he made his own and like that's how spacebusters grew. And then I own the 36:32.610 --> 36:38.130 only reason I took off is because of Convid because I already had known Amanda Volmar like 36:38.130 --> 36:45.790 I already knew germ theory was BS back in 2006, five, six, seven, like I already knew it was BS. 36:45.790 --> 36:52.630 So I only made a couple of films for my subs. That's it. We had like 3000 subs. And I'm like, 36:52.690 --> 36:58.010 these people need to know this is a scam. And then, you know, one of those films was the first to 36:58.010 --> 37:02.730 get a million views on bit shoot. I was like the first guy to get a million, you know, like, 37:02.910 --> 37:08.370 holy crap. And then all these people started coming and Dr. Andy wrote me. Andrew Kaufman 37:08.370 --> 37:12.450 is like, are you Steve from spacebusters? I'm like, yeah. He's like, you want to make 37:12.450 --> 37:16.170 a movie together? I'm like, you know who I am. I didn't even think it was Andy. I had to double 37:16.170 --> 37:19.750 check. I thought it was like someone pulling my leg. I'm like, I know who you are, dude. But 37:20.810 --> 37:24.010 yeah. And then suddenly I'm just like sitting in the middle of all these like 37:24.990 --> 37:29.790 health people. And as you know, you know me, Don, like you, I've been to see you, 37:29.790 --> 37:35.310 you've been to see me like, I'm not a health guy. And I get a lot of shit for people 37:35.310 --> 37:39.230 like this guy smokes and drinks. And I'm like, I never said I didn't all my movies 37:39.230 --> 37:45.130 start with disclaimer. This ain't medical advice. Do what you want. I take cell salt. I know about 37:45.130 --> 37:50.530 biochemistry, cell salts, virology. I take them because I smoke and drink and party. I'm a rock 37:50.530 --> 37:55.250 and roll star. I'm not a doctor. I always say it. And I still get shit. They're like, look at 37:55.250 --> 38:00.490 this guy. I'm like, I've never told anyone to listen to me. But all these doctors listen to 38:00.490 --> 38:04.730 me because I know what I'm talking about. You don't have to be a doctor to understand 38:04.730 --> 38:11.970 these fields, right? It's like, you know, I was doing the tissue, cell salt talks with Lisa Sturbach. 38:12.270 --> 38:18.050 And that was one of her biggest views. And then these Natasha, I think Andrea Steller online, 38:18.730 --> 38:23.750 you know, they're making a new series and book based on my talk with her. So it's like I inspired 38:23.750 --> 38:32.390 real holistic homeopathic health practitioners to do some take it further. So you don't, 38:32.390 --> 38:35.710 you know, you don't have to be a diet, you know, this yourself, your whole books about this. 38:36.470 --> 38:41.110 Yeah, totally. Yes. I mean, that's one of the criticisms of, well, you haven't got a medical 38:41.110 --> 38:50.010 background ago. And but like you, you know, the research started. So I was comfortable with 38:50.010 --> 38:58.470 the idea that, you know, germs don't make you ill in 2009, eight, nine, because I mean, 38:58.470 --> 39:03.030 we did bring out a book in 2010, well published right at the beginning of 2010. So, 39:03.830 --> 39:08.310 you know, we'd prepared it in the sort of year or two before called why germs don't make you ill 39:08.310 --> 39:12.790 and drugs can't kill you. So, you know, I this was 2010. So again, you know, it was 39:15.370 --> 39:21.690 yeah, comfortable with that concept. And I think that's really where a lot of your films 39:21.690 --> 39:26.890 have made the point that it's not about I'm telling you what to do to be healthy, 39:26.890 --> 39:33.470 but it's it's absolutely debunking the germ theory nonsense. And that's so important, 39:33.470 --> 39:37.270 because it's not just a question of, oh, well, you know, then you don't take 39:37.270 --> 39:45.910 an antiviral or an antibiotic, it's so much bigger, because the germ theory pervades so much 39:45.910 --> 39:53.530 of our lives, so many aspects. And it's so insidious that I think people need to know 39:53.530 --> 39:58.790 more about that. And that's one of the aspects that, you know, I continually write about just to 39:58.790 --> 40:05.150 show that it's not just, you know, oh, you therefore you don't need, you know, any kind of injection 40:05.150 --> 40:12.730 or anti whatever is pill. It's so much bigger. It's so much bigger. And take that away. And so 40:12.730 --> 40:18.250 much of the false stuff falls away. And that's like, you did it too, that 40:19.130 --> 40:24.850 that eventually leads you into materialism versus spiritualism and physical, non physical, right? 40:25.430 --> 40:30.950 Once you understand what this really, really is, it's not germ theory, it's not flat earth, round 40:30.950 --> 40:38.510 earth. It's materialism, atomism, Jesuitism. Once you just get that, just like happened to you 40:38.510 --> 40:42.950 guys, you're writing books, you know, all your stuff now has nothing to do with what really 40:42.950 --> 40:49.530 makes you ill. It's you're going into the metaphysical part of it now. And anyone who really gets this 40:49.530 --> 40:56.230 does. So that's where it, as you say, you know, you got into it through your you were in the same 40:56.230 --> 41:01.630 position. Convid happened, you had already written a book long ago about this. So you're like, ah, 41:02.010 --> 41:05.670 it's just you were in the right place at the wrong, or the right time, but I call it the 41:05.670 --> 41:11.250 wrong time, but really the right time. And that's what happens is you start meeting all these 41:11.250 --> 41:16.310 other people because you're like, well, what is going on here? Which I think you're here. I think 41:16.310 --> 41:21.230 you want to call this talk asking the eternal question. The eternal question to me is what the 41:21.230 --> 41:28.750 fuck is going on here? That's the part. Yeah, it was it was actually the eternal questions. 41:28.850 --> 41:34.650 But I mean, that's, I mean, that that's the underlying one is like, what is all of this? 41:34.870 --> 41:38.950 Yeah, what is it? And that's why, and that's why, you know, even at the beginning, I know 41:38.950 --> 41:44.370 I was talking about, you know, what we know, but but the it's really, what do we know about 41:44.370 --> 41:49.470 the nature of what it is we're experiencing? And and in fact, the metaphysical stuff, 41:50.910 --> 41:56.410 my interest in that started before even the health stuff, because I came across the sort of 41:56.410 --> 42:02.230 natural reality stuff way back in 2002. Now, so I mean, that's, you know, I mean, that that's 42:02.230 --> 42:07.430 heading for 25 years ago. So I've been looking into this sort of stuff of who we are, what we 42:07.430 --> 42:16.910 are, what this is all about. And it is, it is has been is still being, it's an interesting journey. 42:17.410 --> 42:23.970 And and absolutely, it is, it is getting away from the physical and at the same time, recognizing 42:23.970 --> 42:29.790 that we operate within what appears to be physical. So that's where it is the left 42:29.790 --> 42:38.190 brain, right brain, you do need the harmony of the right brain working and in in the right way. 42:38.190 --> 42:42.710 So you're recognizing sort of the intuitive intuitive insights and whatever else is going on 42:42.710 --> 42:52.210 and operating in this seemingly physical. So it does require and I mean, that that's 42:52.210 --> 42:56.470 something okay, here's a tangent we can go down. Where are you on the actual 42:57.010 --> 43:03.890 the idea that there is, you know, a brain left right side, because I, you know, I hit in my research, 43:04.350 --> 43:10.030 and I know other people have looked into this as well, but from people, many people function 43:10.030 --> 43:16.690 without even having a brain. So you mean, you mean literally, though, because there's half the 43:16.690 --> 43:20.330 world's walking around like they don't have a brain when they do, but I know you mean, 43:20.910 --> 43:25.610 literally, their brain gets damaged or taken out. Yeah. Well, and yes, I mean, and 43:25.610 --> 43:32.930 quite often, these things have been discovered when some things they've had a health issue and so 43:32.930 --> 43:37.770 they've been sent for either some kind of scan or MRI or whatever it is. And it's been discovered that, 43:37.770 --> 43:44.030 you know, they don't have much of their brain or most of their brain is missing. And people can 43:44.030 --> 43:48.530 look this up. I've looked it up. And I found it didn't take me long to find at least half 43:48.530 --> 43:56.890 a dozen cases, one of them. And again, so let's jumping in. In some cases, these people had what 43:56.890 --> 44:02.050 is called hydrocephalus, which is we'll pop that because that's important. And one of the cases 44:02.050 --> 44:09.750 was a guy who was a he had been a student as he was in the, you know, genius type category, 44:09.930 --> 44:16.650 had an IQ of 126 and they found 90% of his brain was missing. So there's something that says, 44:16.650 --> 44:23.970 well, it's not the brain that is doing this functioning. And so what does this left right 44:23.970 --> 44:28.410 mean? And at the same time with the hydrocephalus means there's water, and we know there's 44:28.410 --> 44:34.270 something going on with water. So to me, that is very, very powerful. So it's something to do with 44:34.270 --> 44:40.470 the, the water, because it's, well, say water, it's a cerebro, cerebral spinal fluid, 44:40.470 --> 44:48.110 which is 90% water anyway. So again, that's what's within their brain, within their head that in 44:48.110 --> 44:52.990 the parts that would be their brain. So they are functioning. There's something that's going on. 44:52.990 --> 44:58.990 So whatever the brain is, the right left, I mean, what are your anyways, I've thrown a lot out 44:58.990 --> 45:04.250 at you. So take it away. What, what are your thoughts on all of this? Well, I'm, my, my, 45:04.370 --> 45:09.130 I'll just say I don't know, but I'm totally with you, the cerebral spinal fluid, I'm 45:09.130 --> 45:14.430 into the oil, the other 10% they don't talk about what it is, which is oil. But yeah, I'm 45:14.430 --> 45:18.290 into the water, you're right. There are people like missing their brains or even have lobotomies, 45:18.370 --> 45:22.630 they can still think, I think there's water involved, there's heart, I think it's energy 45:22.630 --> 45:30.070 fields. I think the brain might, might be, I'm not saying is the way some of us talk to it. 45:30.190 --> 45:34.290 If you know what I mean, to the signals, I used to be way into Bruce Lipton who said 45:34.290 --> 45:39.930 you have cell receptors and they're the antennas from the TV station and you're just a TV. And then 45:39.930 --> 45:44.930 I'm like, well, now we found out cells probably aren't even really in your body. And they definitely, 45:45.050 --> 45:50.650 the receptors are bullshit, even if they're ourselves. So it ain't that. But what he's saying 45:50.650 --> 45:54.570 is true when you're happy and everything, you don't seem to ever get sick. Like as soon as you 45:54.570 --> 45:59.310 got a new boyfriend or girlfriend or a new jet, when you're elated, you don't seem to even get 45:59.310 --> 46:06.010 the fricking sniffles. So I get it. Like just because he doesn't explain the cause doesn't mean 46:06.010 --> 46:12.970 the effect is an observable and the mechanism, it's just that the cause is wrong. You really 46:12.970 --> 46:20.190 have question mark mechanism effect. So I'm totally with you. It could be that we even 46:20.190 --> 46:25.090 have the toroidal field system wrong. We're saying the blue shift comes in through the head 46:25.090 --> 46:29.510 and the red shift comes out through the anus and this and that. But when, like Nicole Murphy 46:29.510 --> 46:34.910 says, when you look at a rainbow, actually the ones on the bottom, the heart, it might be that it's 46:34.910 --> 46:40.350 all coming from the heart intelligence. Actually, because you can be, which we've talked about 46:40.350 --> 46:45.890 is it's fake brain death is like a bullshit clinical thing as Andy Kaufman's talking about. 46:46.230 --> 46:50.050 But you can be brain dead or lobotomized like you said or have, it's like your brain 46:50.050 --> 46:55.890 taken out and you're alive and can think and all that. But your heart, I can promise you, 46:55.950 --> 47:00.270 if you take your heart out, you're dead. It's good. Like I've never heard of a guy, 47:00.390 --> 47:06.070 but he's missing his heart, but he's walking around just fine doing, you know, doing the 47:06.070 --> 47:13.670 New York Times Sunday. There, there. You know, I'm thinking, all right, is it the air and 47:13.670 --> 47:18.910 the blood and the heart and the cell salts and the corpuscles? And is it really internal? 47:18.910 --> 47:26.050 But I do think the brain is like involved in deciphering this somehow, but you're right. I 47:26.050 --> 47:32.250 don't think the brain is the source of consciousness, nor the sole governing factor of what's happening 47:32.250 --> 47:39.310 in our body. Oh, no, I mean, there's absolutely no evidence that the brain produces consciousness. 47:39.630 --> 47:45.230 I mean, you know, I think we might, yeah, no, we're going to go into that in part two. 47:45.750 --> 47:49.830 Yeah, that would be great. The consciousness part, yes, because I mean, that's so important. 47:50.390 --> 47:56.870 I know there are different ways of viewing, and again, we're limited by the words we can use 47:56.870 --> 48:04.010 to describe what we think when we don't actually know. What I tend to see of the brain is that it 48:04.010 --> 48:11.670 acts like a filter, because in the same way that, I mean, like our senses, so, you know, 48:11.670 --> 48:15.470 we can't hear things that dogs can hear. We can only hear in a range, certain range. 48:15.790 --> 48:21.530 We can only see in a certain range. You know, there are different creatures that can sort of see 48:21.530 --> 48:28.870 at different wavelengths. So our, it's not that it's limited, it's just as a human being, 48:29.670 --> 48:38.850 that is how we function within these ranges. So the brain is like a filter. I mean, that's 48:38.850 --> 48:44.850 I think it could be. I mean, the thing is, they don't they mainstream bullshit. They don't know 48:44.850 --> 48:51.990 either. And I don't know either, but it could be responsible. Like you say, it's a filter. 48:53.410 --> 48:59.630 People who are allegedly mentally retarded or autistic or down syndrome, right? They're like, 48:59.630 --> 49:03.170 Oh, their brains don't work. And you're like, Yeah, but they don't have an ego. I could 49:03.170 --> 49:08.070 actually see the brain being responsible for what we call an ego, which the spiritualists 49:08.070 --> 49:12.510 say there's no such thing. But I would say, Yeah, I don't think there is an ego with the 49:12.510 --> 49:18.810 frequencies coming in, whatever it is, water, air, plasma. I don't know. But I could see the 49:18.810 --> 49:24.670 brain being actually the bad thing. That's like, Oh, are my shoes okay? Do they notice 49:24.670 --> 49:29.390 there's my makeup? All right. Look at that woman, you know, all these, all these bad thoughts 49:29.390 --> 49:35.390 you have all day. And why would if you really think about this, if your spirit is coming 49:35.390 --> 49:40.870 from source, why would people's mind chatter be walking around all days? How much negative 49:40.870 --> 49:45.670 shit do people say in their head all day like tons, even when it's not super negative, you're 49:45.670 --> 49:49.950 like, for fuck's sake, lady, can't you bag your groceries? You're like, I do it all the time. 49:50.730 --> 49:55.190 I don't think that's coming from source. I think that's that could be maybe what the brain 49:55.190 --> 50:03.490 does is like an egoic layer onto thought like a signal disruptor or regulator. You see what 50:03.490 --> 50:07.070 I mean? I don't know. I could be totally wrong. People listening might be like this guy don't 50:07.070 --> 50:10.770 know what he's talking about. I admit it. But I could see that happening. 50:11.490 --> 50:15.750 Yeah. Well, I mean, like you said, nobody actually knows. I mean, they're very serious 50:15.750 --> 50:22.510 and I'm just pulsating what it could be. And these retarded people, they're really happy 50:22.510 --> 50:27.370 ever like Down syndrome and retarded people. They're like the happiest people ever. They 50:27.370 --> 50:32.210 have no ego. They're totally loving. They're like a dog. They're just having a great old 50:32.210 --> 50:38.950 time no matter what's going on around them. Yeah, the interesting thing and I'm sure you've 50:38.950 --> 50:43.910 you've gone into that as well. Like with the telepathy tapes, you know, these artists, they have 50:45.690 --> 50:51.290 they are connected to other areas of consciousness, if you like, for want of a better 50:51.290 --> 50:58.610 phrase. So they are more connected because they're not they're not limited by whatever 50:58.610 --> 51:06.050 the brain is feeling that the brain filters are off, if you like. So I mean, I'm using the 51:06.050 --> 51:13.950 language language that kind of works for me. But I'm I'm open to other ideas. And I yeah, 51:14.070 --> 51:21.870 I'm really, as I say, open. And the more I hear about all of this, it becomes more fascinating 51:23.690 --> 51:30.770 and more questions. So, you know, that's again asking the like, who are we? What is this? 51:31.390 --> 51:35.570 You know, like I say, the eternal questions. So yeah, there are so many. 51:35.970 --> 51:41.190 I'm with you. Like, it's I think the important thing is to just say we don't know just like 51:41.190 --> 51:44.590 you're saying you and I aren't sitting here today claiming to know any of this crap. 51:45.170 --> 51:51.130 But I think the way to be is to at least be thinking about this and looking at those kids 51:51.130 --> 51:56.330 and thinking differently than what we're told. I think the biggest problem is that I think the 51:56.330 --> 52:02.070 brain too is where school takes 20 years of bullshit and sticks it in the memory, you know, 52:02.070 --> 52:09.610 it might just be like a receptacle for bullshit, which is why they call it like Brian mind control. 52:09.850 --> 52:15.170 You know, so yeah, I think maybe these and not by the way, not all autistics have this 52:15.170 --> 52:19.110 power. It's it's not like all of them there. Oh, no, no, no. I was just gonna say just, 52:19.110 --> 52:23.970 you know, with the ones that they, you know, through the telepathy tapes, the one, you know, 52:23.990 --> 52:29.550 the children that they've spoken to. I mean, I was going to say, we're heading towards the 52:29.550 --> 52:37.110 first hour. I just want to see what was an hour. No, not not yet. I got about 10 minutes. It was 52:37.110 --> 52:41.270 just really what we wanted to cover to keep in that first, which doesn't have to be a strict 52:41.270 --> 52:47.190 hour, but in the first part for, you know, people who are just, you know, say just 52:47.190 --> 52:53.130 people who are subscribers and who are going to stay just I would like to talk about the book 52:53.130 --> 52:57.170 for the first three people. If you don't mind, because we have to pitch it and you helped us 52:57.170 --> 53:01.610 edit it, which is great. But before we go into the before we go into the members hour, 53:01.770 --> 53:08.950 if we can pitch the book a little because I have to know what you have to because it's 53:08.950 --> 53:15.950 it's a great book. And it's, well, again, not going to. So, okay, what inspired you 53:17.110 --> 53:20.890 to write? I mean, which ones do you want? I mean, you're talking about the jokes of Denzel, 53:21.010 --> 53:23.250 the goons, I mean, do you want to talk about both of them? 53:24.650 --> 53:28.870 Well, yeah, I mean, I mean, the newest book we have out is the goons laser balloons. 53:30.750 --> 53:36.390 And I actually wrote this, I can't remember it was 2018 or 2019, but it was when Paradise 53:36.390 --> 53:41.410 California got lit up by the dew weapons. We saw a paradise light on fire. 53:42.010 --> 53:46.870 Trees weren't burning, but you know, things made out of blue weren't burning, but houses were burning 53:46.870 --> 53:52.990 in half. Fires were jumping from one house to another, missing another, jumping over trees, 53:53.170 --> 53:57.770 which are flammable in California, in the middle of the dry season, impossible. 53:58.630 --> 54:04.190 You know, and later, so I had written a story and I had written a bunch of stories back then. 54:04.690 --> 54:08.950 And then we had what Felix and I now call the curse of the illustrator. So, 54:09.510 --> 54:14.550 my cousin was supposed to draw this book and then he got ill during COVID and passed away, 54:14.590 --> 54:21.390 nothing to do with COVID. Then Tracy Northern who illustrated the, so then we had Tracy start on 54:21.390 --> 54:26.070 the dukes while Ryan was supposed to be doing this. So we had Tracy do this while Ryan should 54:26.070 --> 54:31.590 have been doing this. And then Ryan died on this. So we had Tracy finish this and then 54:31.590 --> 54:37.370 we wanted her to do this. And she started like three drawings and she died. Sadly, 54:37.530 --> 54:42.270 rest in peace. We love you and miss you. Oh, we do. So this book's dedicated to her. 54:43.750 --> 54:49.890 So then we got another one who didn't want to do it. Then we got a guy who said, oh, 54:50.210 --> 54:56.510 he programs AI to get like his college degree was baking AI. So we're like, well, 54:56.550 --> 55:00.710 let's just try this AI thing. And he got like a, I don't know, 10 pictures done. 55:00.710 --> 55:04.490 And then he's like, I can't figure out how to get it to make the same characters. 55:04.870 --> 55:11.750 So there are some people, we, yes, we did end up using AI photographs. Now, the thing is AI 55:11.750 --> 55:18.430 is not drawing this AI is drawing like people in the 80s and 90s cartoons and books used to draw. 55:18.930 --> 55:24.490 Some people go, that's an AI illustration. It's like, no, that's AI drawing like humans 55:24.490 --> 55:32.030 used to draw in the 80s and 90s. AI is copying this too. So anyway, then he couldn't do it. 55:32.050 --> 55:36.730 We're like, shit, then Felix tried to get another girl. She wanted to do it, read the script and 55:36.730 --> 55:42.510 get it. Then another guy like, yeah. So then she, I don't know how she did it, but thank you. 55:42.670 --> 55:46.150 She got her AI to talk to the other AI and finished the book. 55:46.930 --> 55:55.270 She did. Can I just make it absolutely clear that the writing is all Steve's work? 55:55.670 --> 56:02.370 Yes. All the stories that we put out are not AI. It's all mine. None of the writing is AI, 56:02.670 --> 56:07.690 none of that. And for the people who are like, you can't put out AI pictures in your book, 56:07.850 --> 56:14.090 dude, we tried. We tried. Like our illustrators are all dying or quitting or couldn't do it. 56:14.930 --> 56:20.830 It's not that we didn't try. We really wanted that book to be organic because like the Dukes of 56:20.830 --> 56:27.630 Dents was Tracy had. But the message is anyway, the story is teaching the children about agenda 56:27.630 --> 56:33.550 21 and agenda 30 in a safe space because you're not supposed to be scaring the hell out of your 56:33.550 --> 56:43.050 children, but you are not supposed to be raising dummies who aren't prepared to grow up in 56:43.050 --> 56:49.390 it and are, you know, California, like Hawaii. They are burning and flooding our cities down 56:49.390 --> 56:55.370 that they want. They are. So the story is what's going on. There's these people, as you know, 56:55.890 --> 56:59.830 the toons and their northern neighbors are the nasty goons and they want their land. 57:00.310 --> 57:05.770 But we don't even make it close to reality. We make it talking about plum wines in the trees. 57:06.090 --> 57:11.450 But yeah, and these goons burn their town down and then a little girl witnesses it happening 57:11.450 --> 57:16.390 because they use laser balloons at night. And then she tries to tell the town who's trying to 57:16.390 --> 57:20.590 figure out how did our town burn down last night and how our house has gotten half. 57:21.090 --> 57:25.990 And they don't believe the little girls. So like all all of my books, like Dr. Seuss, 57:26.730 --> 57:31.390 there's a moral to the story or a lesson, you know, it has like I said, like that 57:31.390 --> 57:35.890 you start fun, you get a little dark and then you have to end fun and say, 57:36.310 --> 57:40.390 by the way, and then they build up the kids like, I know you're smart enough to get this. 57:40.390 --> 57:45.970 What do you think? What would you do? You know, so the parent or teacher, whoever's reading this, 57:46.050 --> 57:50.750 it's more like a homeschooling book, but anyone could read it. But so if you're not just reading 57:50.750 --> 57:56.050 your kid a bedtime story and like, good night, the end, you know, there's a part in all of 57:56.050 --> 57:59.730 our books where you stop and say, let's talk, let's talk about this. What do you think? 57:59.890 --> 58:02.030 How do you feel about this? What do you think? 58:02.770 --> 58:09.670 Totally. And encouraging children to ask questions, to be aware, again, you know, 58:10.630 --> 58:16.610 no pun intended with the name of this podcast, but you know, being disearning and being able to say, 58:16.750 --> 58:21.510 I saw something and speak up. So, you know, that's an incredibly important message 58:21.510 --> 58:28.250 that even though some people, you know, she wasn't believed, somebody did and I'm not going 58:28.250 --> 58:33.190 to say too much, not spirally, but I mean, it's really to encourage children to 58:34.950 --> 58:41.390 recognize their awareness or to be recognized that they are important. Because I think there's a lot of, 58:41.430 --> 58:46.110 you know, pushing down and that's part of the problem. A lot of what's going on, 58:46.290 --> 58:50.770 that children are diminished and, you know, they just, oh, you know, you just little 58:50.770 --> 58:56.370 and unimportant and no, they are in many ways more tuned in, which I'm sure we'll 58:56.370 --> 59:00.750 get into, which is what I was really saying with the autist, that they're, 59:01.950 --> 59:06.330 in the first few, well, again, the first few years and we can go into NDS and those sorts 59:06.330 --> 59:12.590 of things as well. But, you know, the first few years, they are less here, if you like, 59:12.630 --> 59:17.630 and they're more connected to other things. So, they can tune into what's going on, 59:17.710 --> 59:24.950 they're more aware. And when that's subdued and suppressed, that's the worst thing, 59:25.550 --> 59:32.410 I think, that happens to children. All of that is suppressed. And so, your book is wonderful 59:32.410 --> 59:41.130 because it's saying, this character saw something and was brave enough to speak out about it and, 59:41.250 --> 59:47.830 you know, just ask questions. So, again, it's all of this. It's saying, okay, we're going to 59:47.830 --> 59:52.830 listen to you instead of, you know, just shut up and, you know, sit in a corner or whatever 59:52.830 --> 59:58.610 it is. Yeah, which is what I, yeah, I, like, and now Tom Cowan's got a new book about parenting the 59:58.610 --> 01:00:05.050 same. He's saying the same. I raised my son the same. I'm like, what happens if whenever it might, 01:00:05.210 --> 01:00:09.870 you know, they all, when the kids are two or three, why, why, why? I just said, what happens if 01:00:09.870 --> 01:00:15.450 I, instead of just giving some dumb answer, I give a collegiate level answer to a four-year-old. 01:00:15.990 --> 01:00:20.310 So, I used, I did it as an experiment. He's, he used to go away and come back and think 01:00:20.310 --> 01:00:24.550 about it and he had answers. I was like, how the fuck did you understand that? I was reading him 01:00:24.550 --> 01:00:29.650 Orwell, like, not just Animal Farm 1984 when he was nine and he was figuring out the ending. 01:00:30.090 --> 01:00:34.310 And I've always thought the same as Tom. Like, I think the reason a lot of us grow up like dumb 01:00:34.310 --> 01:00:40.450 children as adults is because we were treated like dumb children as children. I think children 01:00:40.450 --> 01:00:46.490 mature the Jesuits themselves who are the biggest mind control entity on the planet said, 01:00:46.490 --> 01:00:51.770 give us a child till it's seven and it'll be a Jesuit for life. They know the formative 01:00:51.770 --> 01:00:57.890 years are where you make the whole life pattern. You know, so that, that's where I'm at. I'm like, 01:00:57.930 --> 01:01:03.950 why not make a cool children's book that's telling cool stuff without scaring the shit out of them, 01:01:03.950 --> 01:01:09.970 which is, you know, they need to save space of fiction as I call it. Yeah. But we could 01:01:09.970 --> 01:01:13.510 talk about that in part two, maybe more of the psychology of all that stuff. 01:01:14.370 --> 01:01:21.350 Yes. I mean, that's, that's an area that really fascinates me. And I, I mean, I didn't quite take 01:01:21.350 --> 01:01:27.390 the same tack with, with my son, but I didn't, I couldn't speak to him like a, you know, in baby 01:01:27.390 --> 01:01:32.530 languages. I was like, no. And, and besides which, what's the point of, you know, teaching them 01:01:32.530 --> 01:01:36.170 choo choo, and it's like, we'll teach them to train because otherwise he goes to choo choo, 01:01:36.250 --> 01:01:40.690 no, it's a train. You know, don't confuse and tell them what it is in the first place. 01:01:40.690 --> 01:01:49.810 Anyway, um, so I, anyway, I, I'm not going to do mistakes, but again, you know, you're just, 01:01:50.150 --> 01:02:00.090 it is important to, to encourage children to be themselves and to be forthright and not 01:02:00.090 --> 01:02:04.790 just suppress them and oppress them. So I think we had to listen to them and believe in them, 01:02:04.790 --> 01:02:10.570 even in this book, you know, and we say like, there's a part where it's asking the child, it's 01:02:10.570 --> 01:02:15.090 saying, what would you do if they all after you? But we're saying, would you listen to a believer? 01:02:15.310 --> 01:02:19.290 But we're saying like, even if you don't believe her right away, which is okay, we're not saying 01:02:19.290 --> 01:02:23.850 you have to believe everything everyone says. No, we're teaching the child, it's okay to be 01:02:23.850 --> 01:02:29.750 skeptical. But, but look what happened. Oh, by the way, these are on most Amazon platforms, 01:02:29.750 --> 01:02:35.790 apparently not all of them. Felix showed me, I keep saying all Amazons and they're not, but like 01:02:35.790 --> 01:02:40.730 most of the main ones. But yeah, like if you need a, you know, if you're homeschooling, you need a 01:02:40.730 --> 01:02:45.330 birthday present or a Christmas book, or I don't know, it's coming up now, it's solstice. 01:02:47.290 --> 01:02:52.350 Foon's laser balloons and the Duke's a dance yet. Yeah. And, and they're just the beginning 01:02:52.350 --> 01:02:58.830 because you've got other ideas for other books, if I'm not mistaken. Oh yeah, we'll talk about 01:02:58.830 --> 01:03:01.930 that in the private hour, because we're going to get canceled by the third books. 01:03:02.610 --> 01:03:06.370 Okay, no, no, no, no. The left's going to cancel us on the third book. 01:03:06.630 --> 01:03:12.390 We don't, we don't have to, no, we don't have to talk. But what I'm saying is that these are 01:03:12.390 --> 01:03:17.550 going to, these are the first of a series that there are going to be more. More. That's 01:03:17.550 --> 01:03:24.590 the important. So, you know, you're still writing and got other ideas with how to help 01:03:24.590 --> 01:03:30.430 children. And with Tom Cowan's parenting, but I actually have that as well for another reason. 01:03:31.290 --> 01:03:35.190 Is it good? I haven't read it. I've only heard him talk about it. Oh, okay. No, no, no, no. I've 01:03:35.190 --> 01:03:40.990 almost finished it. It's, yeah, it's, yeah, very good. And a lot of it is, if you've heard him 01:03:40.990 --> 01:03:48.110 talk about that on his videos, then, then there's a lot of that in there. So, yeah, it's, it's 01:03:48.110 --> 01:03:58.790 just to, not just, it is to recognize that children are members of society that, you know, 01:03:58.890 --> 01:04:04.030 they're, they're not machines, you know, they, they each, each one has a personality and they 01:04:04.030 --> 01:04:12.650 contribute and they're open. And that's how we, that's how we have to, I'm sorry, I'm just 01:04:12.650 --> 01:04:17.150 thinking, so I just got in my head. That's the way forward, you know, that's how we go forward 01:04:17.150 --> 01:04:23.210 is, is encouraging children to be open-minded, to think. So again, asking questions, you know, 01:04:23.350 --> 01:04:27.670 being open-minded and being able to ask questions without parents or 01:04:28.810 --> 01:04:32.690 authorities or gradants, whatever, just saying, oh, you know, shut up and sit there and, 01:04:32.810 --> 01:04:38.090 you know, do as you're told. No, listen to them ask. And yeah, I mean, maybe sometimes 01:04:38.090 --> 01:04:41.690 it might be a silly question. And other times you've got, actually, that's an interesting 01:04:41.690 --> 01:04:48.150 question. And to have that dialogue, like you say, to, to not treat them as 01:04:49.350 --> 01:04:54.370 silly, because then they'll, they'll collapse and they'll have all kinds of 01:04:54.370 --> 01:04:59.330 psychological problems as they grow up and all of that. So and get to the, well, I mean, 01:04:59.350 --> 01:05:04.310 I think that's a lot of why we're where we are at the moment. And, you know, so yeah, 01:05:04.490 --> 01:05:08.990 we'll dive into, we'll dive into that in the second part, like you say, with the psychology. 01:05:09.650 --> 01:05:17.910 Um, so was, uh, well, yes, because, uh, yeah, we're also going to look more. I mean, 01:05:18.010 --> 01:05:21.890 I know we haven't covered that here, but we will in the second part talk about your films, 01:05:22.010 --> 01:05:27.250 and your deep dive into the whole Antarctica. Oh, yeah, that one's, that one's heating up again 01:05:27.250 --> 01:05:32.670 now too, just when I thought it was all over here. We go again. So yeah, that's interesting. 01:05:32.990 --> 01:05:37.170 Well, yes, it's like they're, they're not quite prepared to, um, 01:05:37.170 --> 01:05:43.010 lie down and shut up. So they're going to fight back a little bit. But I think, you know, once 01:05:43.010 --> 01:05:47.690 people see the amount of information that you put forward in your three, 01:05:48.970 --> 01:05:55.990 three films about that is, I mean, that, that is just phenomenal. I mean, they are 01:05:55.990 --> 01:06:03.610 three more phenomenal pieces of work. So, um, I think, yeah, well, I think we'll, 01:06:03.610 --> 01:06:11.130 we'll leave that for, um, for this first part. So thank you for everybody, uh, to everybody for 01:06:11.130 --> 01:06:18.610 listening and please join us, um, subscribe to join us for the second part. So, um, thank you. 01:06:19.090 --> 01:06:24.050 Thank you for listening. And yeah, see you either on part two or on the next episode. 01:06:24.310 --> 01:06:28.310 Yeah. And subscribe to Dawn. Yeah. We'll take five and then we'll hit part two 01:06:28.310 --> 01:06:30.830 because I've got some good juice on Antarctica.