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Hi, I'm Dawn Lester and this is Dawn of Discernment.
Today's guest, some of you may have recognized at the very beginning,
my good friend Steve Faulkner, the voice of spacebusters and many films,
which I'm sure we'll get into talking about. So who is Steve if you don't know already?
He's a multifaceted individual with expertise in various fields, including music,
filmmaking, writing and research. He's a touring musician and music teacher.
He's also a filmmaker best known for his work on the spacebusters video channels
on YouTube, Bitshoot, Odyssey and other platforms. He's the author of children's books, including
the latest one, The Goons, Laser Balloons and The Dukes of Dent, both of them available on Amazon.
And yes, I know that sometimes we use these platforms, so Steve's holding them up.
For anyone who's just listening, there will be links to the video
version if you'd like to see more. So Steve has written articles and created
content for Truth Theorem News under the pen name, Are You Sure?, which I think is an
absolutely brilliant name because there's so much in that with the questioning,
which is why I've chosen the title for this particular episode.
So his topics of interest are wide and varied, very varied. So ranging from esoteric biochemistry,
the Bible as allegory and cell sorts, to exploring life after death, reincarnation
and magnetic light, to delving into cosmic secrets, Antarctica and the sun's behavior,
to examining alternative history narratives, including the possibility of Old Testament
events occurring in ancient England. Steve has a real talent for debunking or demystifying
occulted information. So hi Steve and welcome. Thank you for coming on my podcast. How are you?
Well, I'm well done. It's great to catch up again. Well, we always talk offline, so
we do a lot, but I'm very honored to be on your podcast. I've been looking forward to it.
I am suffering. I don't know if you call it pink eye or I don't know what's wrong. My eyes very
swollen and today, like I'm a big believer in terrain, so I don't really care what's causing it.
I'm not worried. My body is brilliant. It will heal it. Inflammation is your friend,
but like we were talking offline, there are sometimes when I need to be able to see today
and read, you know, and if your eye is swollen, I've been putting a teabags on thanks to Felix,
just to bring the swelling down, which I know I need the inflammation. It's not going to cure
whatever is causing it. Something's trying to get out. But, you know, that's really why I like
what you do and why I like terrain. I understand that it's my body is trying to fix itself
if I stay out of the way. But there are sometimes, you know, where you, I'm very anti-big pharma,
but I will take aspirin if I have a toothache, you know, if it just hurts so bad, like,
I will do it, you know, and you guys, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was going to say, I agree. I mean,
I pain is one of the big things. If people are in severe pain, then you can't function,
or as you say, with certain information, I think here we call pink eye conjunctive
conjunctive itis. So again, it's the itis, the inflammation. So I mean, I am not one for suggesting
people don't do anything to help relieve the symptoms so they can function and then
recognize that the body is healing. It's just a question of what they use. And like you,
wouldn't go to big pharma at the same time. If there's something, I mean, I read not that
long a few weeks ago, had a bad back and I couldn't move. I didn't use them, but I had some pain killers
if it had gone on for longer than just the sort of day or two. So totally with you that there are
times when we need to use something to help us. Yeah, no, no gain. I mean, the pain,
the pain is there to tell you something's wrong. Yes. And then like the pain killer,
once you recognize that all right, something's wrong, you can kill the pain. So you're like,
I got it, something's wrong. It's the people who think that the aspirin are going to cure your
headache. It's not it's just going to stop the effect of it. You need to address why you have
the headache. And again, like the teabags aren't going to take down my eye swelling. I don't know
why it's swollen. I sleep with an sleeping mask. I might have poked myself eyelashes could
have turned under maybe I'm detoxing. I don't know. But you know, you guys have illuminate and
elevate coming up, right? 13th, 14th, September, we do talking some about this. And then I know
there's a terrainology. There's a conference coming up in New York, September 26, 28th,
with like Andy Kaufman, Tofer Gardner, Anna Maria Olivia and Marisela Arce,
who's got her new book out to germs are not your enemy. That's the thing, like I had to go
into my gigs the last two nights, right? And everyone's like, I think you have pink eye,
don't hug me. Oh, typical, typical. Yes. Even if it's pink eye, it's not contagious. Like
don't worry about it. But yeah, so you know, I'm just like, well, whatever, it'll go away.
Like, you know, I'm taking some salt salts and I'll just let it heal. That's how it
works. Yeah, I think sometimes, like you said, the pain is a message, as long as we recognize
that it's a message. And sometimes the pain is to have a rest. And you can't rest properly if you're
in pain. So maybe take something and then while you're sleeping, your body starts the healing
process. So I mean, there are various different ways. And that's one of the things to start
listening to our own bodies. Because we don't have that knowledge, we're not taught that. And
we need to listen, start learning to listen to our bodies. And yes, interesting. Yes. Andy
Kaufman is common to both of those events, the Traynology and Illuminate and Elevate. So,
yeah, it's exciting to have him. Yeah, I was supposed to be at Illuminate and Elevate as
well. But I had to turn it down to do some other stuff I got going on with like visa renewals.
But so I can't leave the country. But I was really bummed because I was supposed to speak
with you guys. And I was really looking forward. But I can't do it. But you know,
like what you're saying, it's not, it's not just physical actually, like the physical pain tells
you when you have a physical body problem. But it's the same when you're like depressed and in
emotional pain and all that it's telling you when you have a spiritual problem when
something in your life has happened that you're upset about and you have some conflicts to
resolve. So it's the same thing when people take antidepressants. As if you're not allowed to be
sad and depressed, you know, you're like the reason you're sad is your spirits dictating through
your spirit that you're upset about something and you have to resolve this issue, whatever
happened this event. And that can lead into the physical as you and, you know, you've got
books about this, like what happens when you, you know, the placebo knows CBO hire your mental
and emotional state can affect your physical state and vice versa. So you know, it's a good
metaphor, like you need to listen to not only your body, but also your mind, like you're not
crazy. It's okay to be depressed. You can't dwell on it for your life, just like you
can't take big pharma to get rid of a problem, you know, can't take aspirin for life and
get rid of your problem. Prozac won't do that either, but it's okay to be upset about
life changing events. Yes. And as well as the, you know, the power of the mind, but also
recognizing our language. So if you have thoughts going through your head, it's to
look at the thoughts and the language and tell your, recognize what you are telling
yourself within that message. And it could be all sorts of things, you know, because
there are a lot of ways that we can have low self-esteem and self-respect and low
self-confidence due to whatever it is. And if you start, if you shut that down, you're not going
to get to, like with the physical health thing, you're not going to get to the root and you
have to address the root calls to get to resolve whatever it is, whether it's physically,
emotionally, or psychologically, just to then clear it through and
bind your way forward in life. Yeah, the language is important too. I've been trying
to stop myself because I love cooking. Like I cook a lot and in American slang, we say,
like, this shit's really good. You know, we can swear on your podcast, right? Yeah.
Like this shit's that, you know, this is the shit. And I'm like, wait a minute,
I'm calling my food shit. But I don't mean it like that. But it really like,
I'm trying to stop myself from saying that, you know, I'm trying to, because you're energizing
your food through words and vibration. And it's the same, you know, when you start,
I know a lot of people who just they start to fall in love with their misery. They complain
so much about everything that they almost like get attached to complaining in their misery. It's
like, well, you just want to be miserable because you want something to complain about,
not that they actually want to, but it just starts happening. You know, this pattern starts
ingraining because all is energy. And these patterns just are, you know, way stronger and
stronger. Yeah. And turn into habits. Yeah. Yeah. And yes, I mean, that's it. And it's
quite often it's breaking ourselves out of these habits and patterns, recognizing there are
patterns. And, you know, as you say, some people like, like that, or maybe they just,
they're not aware, I don't know it, because everyone's different. So I'm not general, I don't
generalize because we are all different and we all have our own journey. And it's still
important to recognize the importance of our words. I mean, one of the things I say, you
know, when people are talking about food is if they say, Oh, I know this is bad for me,
and then eat it and go, really? It's like, okay, you're sending that message into your body. And
and, you know, again, it's a habit but not realizing the energetic of saying something
like you like you were saying about about your food. And even though you know your intention
when you're using that word, isn't that it's rubbish, it's good. It's just, you should
say the language. And maybe it's the energy as well. So maybe it's not just the word,
the energy behind it. It is a words have energy like language is formed by energetic
patterns. But like you, you don't know that's bad for you. When you say that it's because
someone out in the news said, don't eat, you know, Doritos, there, but you know,
somebody in the health industry said, they're bad for you. They are like, I agree. If
you live on Doritos, you're probably going to have some huge health problems. But a bag of
Doritos isn't going to kill you unless every time you have one, you have guilt and doubt
and issues. Oh my God, there's chemicals and e numbers. You're like, yeah, but it's a bag
of Doritos like your body can handle it. You can't live on Doritos.
That's the difference. That's such an important point. No, it's a question of a balance. And
also, you know, the whole approach to food as well. I mean, this wasn't where we
were going to go, but we're here anyway. It's the whole, it's the whole approach to what you're
about to eat. And, you know, I know, Adam Bigglesons is one of his things. It's like, you know,
to eat with joy. And I think he's absolutely right, you know, to whatever it is, eat with
joy. And if you're eating some Doritos or a cream cake or some chocolate, and I love
chocolate, so, you know, I, I'm not denying myself because again, I'm setting something up.
We've got, oh, if I, oh, I mustn't have that. You just just just setting yourself up with all
kinds of energetic conflict when you, it's, you know, you want to have something, but it's
when you then feel, oh, it's bad and I mustn't. So it's just all these
ideas to, to realize that they are conditions we don't have to hang on to. But as you say,
it is recognizing that there is a difference between food, you know, real food that is
nourishing and occasional things like, you know, Doritos or chocolates or ice cream or whatever,
you know, it just, it's to get that, get a balance really. And, and also to enjoy what you eat when
you eat it. Well, that's it because, you know, people will say, hang on, an obese person can
say, I really enjoy eating bricks of chatter and pints of ice cream at two in the morning.
They don't, they're doing it as an emotional crutch because they're up at two in the
morning because they're worried about some emotional thing. They're eating for that. However,
I personally think that even if you're obese and emotionally eating for the wrong reason,
if you actually stopped eating because you are using it as a crutch and say, I am,
I'm eating cheddar because I enjoy an ice cream, I think you will stop eating so much
because you will get fulfilled. If you're eating to fill a gap that you won't emotionally
take the time to fill, no amount of ice cream and cheddar cheese in the world or McDonald's burgers
will fill it. But if you switch the mindset to say, I'm eating because I love ice cream,
then eventually you will say, I've had enough freaking ice cream, like, you know,
a half a tub is fine. You know, so you've got to switch your eating from your eating as a crutch
to something else. That's what I'm saying. Don't feel it's the, the guilt will make
you eat even more because that's going to give you more to sit up worried about. You're like,
not only am I depressed, I'm also fat. You can't stop eating and I'm going to eat more. Yeah.
You know, it just cannonballs down.
Oh, totally. That's the cycle. Absolutely. That's the cycle, which, yeah, I mean,
it's such a good point of, and this is, you know, it's, this is not judgmental. This is
just sharing that, you know, people can be eating for some kind of comfort. I mean,
you know, there is that phrase comfort eating. And, you know, I've done the occasion, we just feel
fed up and, you know, whatever. And at the same time, you recognize it and you don't have to make
it a pattern. But I think sometimes it's the excuses that people use, oh, I can't x, y, z. So
that's also setting up a pattern of I can't and go, well, why do you think you can't? And
when you drill down, it's to get down those layers of why people have these habits.
And it quite often goes to something where they were told something at some point that they
couldn't do whatever it was or they were seen as worthless. It's a self-value thing. There's all
of that. So I know, I mean, it's a huge, it's a huge rabbit hole. We're just so conditioned to
think in a certain way. And, you know, then the big farmer comes along and says, oh, we've
got a pill for your ear. We just know. However, lots of people are learning. And also, thanks to
your films over the last few years, we'll get to those shortly. But as I said, you are at heart
a musician, aren't you? Which some people know. So was that always your first love going into
music, playing music? I think it was. As a kid, I was writing songs already at four or five years
old. And my mom would take me to my grandma's and they had these like toy children's instruments
around. And I was, I could play anything like a xylophone or a little toy piano or whatever. I
was just tinkering around. And my uncles turned me on the guitar. And later, you know, my mom
and dad got divorced. And my mom moved in with my stepdad who had a piano from his former wife
and no one in the house played it. So I just taught myself like how to play the piano off the
radio, you know, and kind of went from there. So I was always really musically inclined. And then,
yeah, like a lot of musicians, I had the dream and I had the original band to like,
we thought we were going to be, you know, the next Radiohead and U2 and Pink Floyd, you know,
we thought all that. And we did really well, but we didn't do that. Like it's really hard
industry. But we made money, we made albums, we toured around and stuff. And now I'm a
music teacher for like beginner students on five instruments and band. And I personally
play around with my own band and myself, but we're only playing covers and bars around Scandinavia.
So it's not my music, which was the dream. But you know, my goal was to make a living playing
music. And that I've been doing for 20 some years now. So to me, I've learned like, and it's
actually more fun and more happy because you're not so involved. And it's not like,
you're not so proud because they're not your songs. And it's easier to have a good gig because
you can pick a hit at every song you play could be a hit already established. So I just really enjoy
being around music, playing music, everyone's like, what's your favorite band? I'm like,
I don't have one. What's your favorite song? I don't know. I just love music.
Okay, wonderful. I mean, that's yeah, some stuff in there. I didn't know. So
hopefully a few other people will have learned a bit more about you. So what types of
songs do you play? I mean, is it very varied? Because as you say, different hits. I mean,
you always asked, I mean, rock or whatever. Yeah, a lot of sing-alongs known stuff,
you know, Sweet Home, Alabama, Country Roads to, you know, Sweet Caroline to,
we'll play Nirvana. Like, I don't care just anything, just more party stuff people know.
And, you know, it's an, I'm an entertainment on the stage. I'm in big pubs with people out
drinking at night. Like, I'm there to have a good time and get everyone to have a good time
together, not to be like some self inverted guy getting off on his, you know, is on the,
getting his rocks off without worrying about the crowd. Like, music, music is an exchange.
It's an energetic exchange between you and the audience. So you're dancing with your audience.
And if you start playing, I don't do set lists, if you start playing the kind of songs and they're
not in that mood, it doesn't work that way. You know, like, you've got to feel a rat and then
slowly build it up. So I like to keep it loose. But that's how life should be, too.
You know, we're so rigid in our beliefs and stuff. Like, you have to be able to
adapt to what's going on right now. Like, we're in a soup of constant changing energy. So
you can't approach that with one life strategy. It's not going to work.
No. And as you say, important point is reading the room and see where people are and what hits
the spot. But in terms of your own music, what you listen to at home, or do you have a
do you go by your mood? Is it sometimes just my mood? Yeah, I don't actually listen anymore
to a lot of music because I play four or five nights a week. So I play so much like I don't
want to sit at home and hear music anymore than a chef wants to sit at home cooking pancakes all
day. You know, like I need a break from it. But I love classical jazz rock country. I like
Madonna. I don't the modern music, you know, I'm not into Taylor Swift and all that crap.
But if there's a good song, there's a few Lady Gaga songs I think are pretty good,
even though she's what she is, but are he or she or whatever she is. But you know,
so I just think like if it's a good song, you know a good song when you like one.
Yeah, I was going to say actually, because this is a good segue into my next point,
which is about the music industry, which is probably good that you didn't go down that
route of becoming a big band because you may well have all your band becoming big and well known
because you may have been drawn into this industry, which we know is just not about music. It's
really been hijacked, infiltrated, destroyed, ruined. I mean, how aware were you of all of this
and was because you were within that field of music? How soon did you did you see all of that?
What's going on in the industry? How how soon were you aware of it? I mean, you kind of saw it like
I got lucky. Our band was going down that road. Like we were we had a manager whose brother
was the executive producer for top of the pops and what used to be the tube. So we were like
in the star bar, then we went on tour in America and we had the Rolling Stone magazine
was going to do a write up on us in Owens garage of the knitting factory. But then 9-11
happened while we were in Chicago on tour. So we couldn't even finish those gigs because the
clubs were under rubble or in ground zero. And then, you know, we had to go to England and we
couldn't get our gear back because you couldn't ship it. So we kind of like we're almost on
that route. And then everything 9-11 like screwed all that up for us sort of and then
so I could have gone down that path. And we didn't see it. Like they were at like they were asking
we were trying to make our music go a certain way. And they were like, no, we want you to do more of
this stuff kind of, you know, stuff we used to do that was, I don't know what to call it,
more pop. I could see how like you could get driven like just make a record like this.
And then you can do whatever you want. I think this happens to all these artists.
They don't, they're not all in there like trying to be Satan's servants, you know,
and signing contracts with the devil. They're all told this. They're like, you guys have talent,
do this, dress like this, do these drugs, whatever. And then after you sell, you can do
whatever you want. But that's not how it works because the way they do it is they give you
less advanced, they give you a big advance that they have to recoup. They put you in debt
on your first record if they even sign you. And then usually they don't even release you,
they're doing that as a tax write off to one of their bigger artists. But if you do get out there,
you start owning them more and more money. And they usually sign you to like six or seven deals
where you're going to lose your shirt. So yeah. And then you get an accountant. So
yeah, you get to live in hotels and tear out the walls and you're on tour. And it's
because the musicians just want to be in the spotlight and make the records. They don't
really care about the money. So long as they're not starving, they want to be out doing it.
This is how they get you, you know, and then eventually those people like some of them want to
be, it seems that like the women get sucked more, doesn't it? Like Katy Perry, Britney Spears,
it's less guys who get trapped by it. I don't know why.
If you know what I mean, although bands are going. Yeah, yeah, I was going to say you
could be right. But I mean, the bands, I mean, it goes back to the 60s, 70s. But I mean,
in a way, 9-11 did you a favor, which might sound bizarre. And I'm not
condoning or whatever. Anyway, we'll leave that one to one side. We've got our own views on
all of that. What I'm saying is like with the, you know, the 2020 COVID nonsense, you know,
that there's, there have been many gifts coming out of that. So again, with what happened,
because you were close, I wasn't going to say, so the 9-11, because it sounds like you were close.
I didn't realize you were quite in that space. So again, this is, this is great to hear more
about you and your career and just where you were. We were there, yeah. Yeah. We were right
there. Yeah, we had a tour from the Midwest and then through New York. And we were in Chicago
and 9-11 happened. I came out in the bathroom at whatever in the morning.
And my band was sitting around the TV and I thought they were watching the movie. I went to
take a pee and I'm like, what are you guys watching? They're like a plane or a bomb blew
up in the World Trade Center. And I was like, God, I thought it was a movie. And then like,
sure enough, the second explosion or we saw a plane hit, you know, and posted it. But
yeah, we're like, holy shit. So it pretty much like ruined our career. But I think save mine.
A lot of, a lot of musicians are truthers. Actually, if you ever notice like a lot of
positions are open to it. Unfortunately, during Convid, they were all the ones I know are out
taking quadruple boosters and jabs and they were, they turned into the biggest sheeple. I was so
upset, you know, I was like, where are, where are the artists like the 60s? This should have
been the time to shine. And they weren't doing it, which is why I ended up later hooking
up with Alex Michael, who you're going to his party like, you know, conspiracy music guru is
one of the few guys who's actually like making music about what's going on. So I was like,
all right, I'm done with this. Like, this is cool, you know, so. Yes. Well,
well, slight spoiler that he will be on the podcast in a couple of weeks.
Yeah. And Steve Young, too, as well. Yes, absolutely. I just saw Steve and Stalin.
Yes. Well, I guess I've had Steve as a guest on the podcast. So, yeah. And it's interesting. So many
people I know are musicians. So it's interesting that, like you say, they're aware of what's
going on. And it's also another medium that can be used to share the message,
not just straightforward, you know, telling people whatever it is, you know,
like with your films, and so we'll get into that. So there are different media
sharing the message with people. So because because we're all different, so people will get,
will resonate more with certain messages in a particular way. So certainly musically,
it's good to get that out. I mean, you, you haven't, you haven't taken that route,
although you've you've gone, you've gone down the route of making films,
which if people haven't seen them, they are amazing. Thank you. And yeah, no, I mean,
yes, I heard your voice long before I even knew who you were. So yes. And then it was like,
oh, that's you. Oh, okay. Well, you know what, like, Don, real quick, like,
even during Convid, you could see the big one like Rage Against the Machine. This is the
band who got famous for a song. F you, I won't do what you tell me. They're telling
they're rage against the system. And then you couldn't come to their show if you didn't get the
jibber jabber and the Rolling Stones, you know, you're like, what is, you can see when you're
at the higher levels, like Mark Devlin has talked a lot about this, they sold out like they had
to, they have no choice. When you're a musician, one of the things is music requires left and
right brain cooperation. That's why I think a lot of musicians are truthers because
they're already not locked in the left brain. They have more of an open right brain that actually,
and they're not too right brain where they're just out in wildland, you know, like Crystal
Healing and New Age stuff like that. We have a little more of a, our job requires our brain
works together. So that's why I think a lot of them are truthers. But I was shocked that a lot
of them didn't want to do anything about it, you know, it went out and just followed the
jibber and I was like, what? So, you know, but yeah, yeah, but go on, yes. So I just want to
interject that. No, no, I mean, that's a good point. And Mark Devlin is also going to be at a
illuminate and elevate if anyone hasn't thought his work because I, yeah, I came across his work
many years ago. I mean, I, it must have been before 2020, because I'm sure I was aware of,
well, I'd been researching a whole load of topics long before 2020. So it was just, you know,
the pinnacle of the health thing. But, you know, I'd been researching and looking broad and wide
into all areas. And I'm, I tend to be a big picture person. So I kind of gather the pieces
and start seeing how the jigsaw pieces, you know, how they all fit together. And even
though we never have the full picture, but when you have more and more pieces, you start to
get a sense of what the picture is looking like, even though you're constantly adding more and
more to it. So, and so yeah, I mean, as you say, the left and right brain, but I mean, the
in terms of writing your own music, that then turned to writing, not musically. So
what moved you into actually writing articles and taking on the name, are you sure, you know,
moving into just that pure writing, John, without being for music?
Yeah. Well, I think, like, I was one of those kids I hated school. And I did.
Yeah, I'm sure you know, really, what a shocker. I only like music class, art class. And for
some reason, I loved English and creative writing. Those were like, I love that in school,
and I got aces in those. So for some reason, I like to write. I'm the same now, you know,
like we're on digital media, a lot of people on Telegram. You know, when I talk with someone,
it will do like someone will send me a voice message, because they like to talk.
And I more comfortable writing back, I barely ever send back a voice message, like I don't
like to hit record and talk into that thing. I feel stupid. But I can write very eloquently.
That's just how I am. So yeah, you know, I've been researching a lot, songwriting helped me a lot.
So I write and rhythm and cadence and all that. So I'm comfortable with writing. I'm
comfortable with talking. I went to school to be a radio broadcast disc jockey, like I wanted
to have my own radio show. But I can talk to you. But I have a lot of trouble if I have to
talk into my screen just without, you know, just go. But yet I write my films that way,
but because I don't have to say the whole script. So what I'm really doing, if anyone's wondering,
how are you writing these films? I do not write the Space Busters film out. I don't have a script.
I know what I want to talk about. And I write a piece at a time. And then I say it and record
it. So I'm not sitting there like reading a script and making a movie around it. I'm
making a movie around little parts of what I say. I have no idea how the movie is going to end.
I don't know where it's going. I just know what I want it to say. That's how I work.
Oh, right. So you don't even have like an, like an overview.
What's the word? Like like a summary, just just to kind of, you know, bullet points,
you just go, so, oh, okay. Oh, interesting. But I know like a song has to have a verse
and a chorus and it starts with a chorus. It's better. So what I do is I make an intro that I like.
I just, I know what I want to make a film about. And I make a one or two minute intro that's
kicking. So anyone who watches my films is like, yeah, it starts off great. And I just go off
script and go off track. Then I know that eventually the end has to tie into the beginning
like a song. You have to end with a chorus. If you start with one, I get it.
So, but I'm figuring that out as I go. And it just always does because maybe because
I song, right? Maybe because I ad-lib a lot at my job, you know, I have to, you know,
working in the music on stage. I have to be versatile and ad-lib. We don't play the same
song the same every night. Like it's different. And so I don't know. I just feel more comfortable.
I can't write a script and then do that. I can't do that.
I'm more comfortable doing this where, you know, we're like, what are we going to talk
about? And we're like, I don't know, but I better go two hours and be great.
I have no doubt we'll have no problem. No doubt that, you know, the easel flow.
And I've got notes and when I'm more than, I know we're going to go, these are just
bullet points. So I know we're going to range around it and go off on all sorts of
tangents, which is fine, as I said, because you have so many topics that you've looked into.
And some are, you know, I've looked into as well. And some are like, you're like far,
far deeper than I've gone. So I'll just, you know, leave them to keep going with that.
But I, well, I mean, there are some. So with, I mean, that all makes sense with the
music moving into the writing and then again, into the space busters and producing the films.
So, I mean, what took you into space busters and writing the films?
Yeah. So I started writing because I was researching so much and everyone around me
seemed to sleep. Yeah. The only reason people are listening to me is I was saying all the
shit we're saying today, back in 2005 and six, and I was like way, way ahead of the game,
like deep, but I wasn't really because there was G Edward Griffin, David, like, you know,
I don't even agree with all these people said, but Bill Cooper and like, there was all these
people back then who had been doing this for 30 years. But nobody seemed to be talking about
it. You know, back then I was, I was like, well, I write well. And my friend was like, hey,
I followed this newspaper and used to write articles on there. And she said, why don't you
run the paper with me? I was like, yeah, same with the children's books. Like,
because songwriting, you have to write a lot of rhyme and cadence and rhythm.
And I grew up on Dr. Seuss. I saw I thought that guy was the greatest. And I was,
I read my children, Dr. Seuss. And I love my favorite book of his was Oh,
The Places You Will Go, which is it's like that. And then in the middle, it's like,
it really dark. It just takes a way left turn, like, and everything will be great.
But sometimes it won't, you know, and he just takes the kids like it's not all peaches and cream
kiddo. And I was like, wow. And then he brings them up at the end. You know, I was like,
that's amazing. So even with songwriting and with with growing up on Seuss and schooling
my kids on Seuss, that's how the children's book became really a natural step for that.
And the writing was easy. But then Ross, who's the real spacebusters, I'm not spacebusters.
It's Ross Porter. He started spacebusters, just busting on like,
NASA pretty much, you know, we weren't even flat earthers. We were just busting on NASA
and all that crap. And and yeah, like lowbusters found us and like we had a tiny little channel,
we had one video, nobody owns the air that got like 380,000 views on YouTube. And that got us
advertising, like right to have commercials. And then like we got noticed by people and they
started and I thought, oh, well, if you I can do this too, like that sounds fun. I'd like to
make movies. Like if he's making little films, why can't I? And we made them together, you know,
and I made my own and he made his own and like that's how spacebusters grew. And then I own the
only reason I took off is because of Convid because I already had known Amanda Volmar like
I already knew germ theory was BS back in 2006, five, six, seven, like I already knew it was BS.
So I only made a couple of films for my subs. That's it. We had like 3000 subs. And I'm like,
these people need to know this is a scam. And then, you know, one of those films was the first to
get a million views on bit shoot. I was like the first guy to get a million, you know, like,
holy crap. And then all these people started coming and Dr. Andy wrote me. Andrew Kaufman
is like, are you Steve from spacebusters? I'm like, yeah. He's like, you want to make
a movie together? I'm like, you know who I am. I didn't even think it was Andy. I had to double
check. I thought it was like someone pulling my leg. I'm like, I know who you are, dude. But
yeah. And then suddenly I'm just like sitting in the middle of all these like
health people. And as you know, you know me, Don, like you, I've been to see you,
you've been to see me like, I'm not a health guy. And I get a lot of shit for people
like this guy smokes and drinks. And I'm like, I never said I didn't all my movies
start with disclaimer. This ain't medical advice. Do what you want. I take cell salt. I know about
biochemistry, cell salts, virology. I take them because I smoke and drink and party. I'm a rock
and roll star. I'm not a doctor. I always say it. And I still get shit. They're like, look at
this guy. I'm like, I've never told anyone to listen to me. But all these doctors listen to
me because I know what I'm talking about. You don't have to be a doctor to understand
these fields, right? It's like, you know, I was doing the tissue, cell salt talks with Lisa Sturbach.
And that was one of her biggest views. And then these Natasha, I think Andrea Steller online,
you know, they're making a new series and book based on my talk with her. So it's like I inspired
real holistic homeopathic health practitioners to do some take it further. So you don't,
you know, you don't have to be a diet, you know, this yourself, your whole books about this.
Yeah, totally. Yes. I mean, that's one of the criticisms of, well, you haven't got a medical
background ago. And but like you, you know, the research started. So I was comfortable with
the idea that, you know, germs don't make you ill in 2009, eight, nine, because I mean,
we did bring out a book in 2010, well published right at the beginning of 2010. So,
you know, we'd prepared it in the sort of year or two before called why germs don't make you ill
and drugs can't kill you. So, you know, I this was 2010. So again, you know, it was
yeah, comfortable with that concept. And I think that's really where a lot of your films
have made the point that it's not about I'm telling you what to do to be healthy,
but it's it's absolutely debunking the germ theory nonsense. And that's so important,
because it's not just a question of, oh, well, you know, then you don't take
an antiviral or an antibiotic, it's so much bigger, because the germ theory pervades so much
of our lives, so many aspects. And it's so insidious that I think people need to know
more about that. And that's one of the aspects that, you know, I continually write about just to
show that it's not just, you know, oh, you therefore you don't need, you know, any kind of injection
or anti whatever is pill. It's so much bigger. It's so much bigger. And take that away. And so
much of the false stuff falls away. And that's like, you did it too, that
that eventually leads you into materialism versus spiritualism and physical, non physical, right?
Once you understand what this really, really is, it's not germ theory, it's not flat earth, round
earth. It's materialism, atomism, Jesuitism. Once you just get that, just like happened to you
guys, you're writing books, you know, all your stuff now has nothing to do with what really
makes you ill. It's you're going into the metaphysical part of it now. And anyone who really gets this
does. So that's where it, as you say, you know, you got into it through your you were in the same
position. Convid happened, you had already written a book long ago about this. So you're like, ah,
it's just you were in the right place at the wrong, or the right time, but I call it the
wrong time, but really the right time. And that's what happens is you start meeting all these
other people because you're like, well, what is going on here? Which I think you're here. I think
you want to call this talk asking the eternal question. The eternal question to me is what the
fuck is going on here? That's the part. Yeah, it was it was actually the eternal questions.
But I mean, that's, I mean, that that's the underlying one is like, what is all of this?
Yeah, what is it? And that's why, and that's why, you know, even at the beginning, I know
I was talking about, you know, what we know, but but the it's really, what do we know about
the nature of what it is we're experiencing? And and in fact, the metaphysical stuff,
my interest in that started before even the health stuff, because I came across the sort of
natural reality stuff way back in 2002. Now, so I mean, that's, you know, I mean, that that's
heading for 25 years ago. So I've been looking into this sort of stuff of who we are, what we
are, what this is all about. And it is, it is has been is still being, it's an interesting journey.
And and absolutely, it is, it is getting away from the physical and at the same time, recognizing
that we operate within what appears to be physical. So that's where it is the left
brain, right brain, you do need the harmony of the right brain working and in in the right way.
So you're recognizing sort of the intuitive intuitive insights and whatever else is going on
and operating in this seemingly physical. So it does require and I mean, that that's
something okay, here's a tangent we can go down. Where are you on the actual
the idea that there is, you know, a brain left right side, because I, you know, I hit in my research,
and I know other people have looked into this as well, but from people, many people function
without even having a brain. So you mean, you mean literally, though, because there's half the
world's walking around like they don't have a brain when they do, but I know you mean,
literally, their brain gets damaged or taken out. Yeah. Well, and yes, I mean, and
quite often, these things have been discovered when some things they've had a health issue and so
they've been sent for either some kind of scan or MRI or whatever it is. And it's been discovered that,
you know, they don't have much of their brain or most of their brain is missing. And people can
look this up. I've looked it up. And I found it didn't take me long to find at least half
a dozen cases, one of them. And again, so let's jumping in. In some cases, these people had what
is called hydrocephalus, which is we'll pop that because that's important. And one of the cases
was a guy who was a he had been a student as he was in the, you know, genius type category,
had an IQ of 126 and they found 90% of his brain was missing. So there's something that says,
well, it's not the brain that is doing this functioning. And so what does this left right
mean? And at the same time with the hydrocephalus means there's water, and we know there's
something going on with water. So to me, that is very, very powerful. So it's something to do with
the, the water, because it's, well, say water, it's a cerebro, cerebral spinal fluid,
which is 90% water anyway. So again, that's what's within their brain, within their head that in
the parts that would be their brain. So they are functioning. There's something that's going on.
So whatever the brain is, the right left, I mean, what are your anyways, I've thrown a lot out
at you. So take it away. What, what are your thoughts on all of this? Well, I'm, my, my,
I'll just say I don't know, but I'm totally with you, the cerebral spinal fluid, I'm
into the oil, the other 10% they don't talk about what it is, which is oil. But yeah, I'm
into the water, you're right. There are people like missing their brains or even have lobotomies,
they can still think, I think there's water involved, there's heart, I think it's energy
fields. I think the brain might, might be, I'm not saying is the way some of us talk to it.
If you know what I mean, to the signals, I used to be way into Bruce Lipton who said
you have cell receptors and they're the antennas from the TV station and you're just a TV. And then
I'm like, well, now we found out cells probably aren't even really in your body. And they definitely,
the receptors are bullshit, even if they're ourselves. So it ain't that. But what he's saying
is true when you're happy and everything, you don't seem to ever get sick. Like as soon as you
got a new boyfriend or girlfriend or a new jet, when you're elated, you don't seem to even get
the fricking sniffles. So I get it. Like just because he doesn't explain the cause doesn't mean
the effect is an observable and the mechanism, it's just that the cause is wrong. You really
have question mark mechanism effect. So I'm totally with you. It could be that we even
have the toroidal field system wrong. We're saying the blue shift comes in through the head
and the red shift comes out through the anus and this and that. But when, like Nicole Murphy
says, when you look at a rainbow, actually the ones on the bottom, the heart, it might be that it's
all coming from the heart intelligence. Actually, because you can be, which we've talked about
is it's fake brain death is like a bullshit clinical thing as Andy Kaufman's talking about.
But you can be brain dead or lobotomized like you said or have, it's like your brain
taken out and you're alive and can think and all that. But your heart, I can promise you,
if you take your heart out, you're dead. It's good. Like I've never heard of a guy,
but he's missing his heart, but he's walking around just fine doing, you know, doing the
New York Times Sunday. There, there. You know, I'm thinking, all right, is it the air and
the blood and the heart and the cell salts and the corpuscles? And is it really internal?
But I do think the brain is like involved in deciphering this somehow, but you're right. I
don't think the brain is the source of consciousness, nor the sole governing factor of what's happening
in our body. Oh, no, I mean, there's absolutely no evidence that the brain produces consciousness.
I mean, you know, I think we might, yeah, no, we're going to go into that in part two.
Yeah, that would be great. The consciousness part, yes, because I mean, that's so important.
I know there are different ways of viewing, and again, we're limited by the words we can use
to describe what we think when we don't actually know. What I tend to see of the brain is that it
acts like a filter, because in the same way that, I mean, like our senses, so, you know,
we can't hear things that dogs can hear. We can only hear in a range, certain range.
We can only see in a certain range. You know, there are different creatures that can sort of see
at different wavelengths. So our, it's not that it's limited, it's just as a human being,
that is how we function within these ranges. So the brain is like a filter. I mean, that's
I think it could be. I mean, the thing is, they don't they mainstream bullshit. They don't know
either. And I don't know either, but it could be responsible. Like you say, it's a filter.
People who are allegedly mentally retarded or autistic or down syndrome, right? They're like,
Oh, their brains don't work. And you're like, Yeah, but they don't have an ego. I could
actually see the brain being responsible for what we call an ego, which the spiritualists
say there's no such thing. But I would say, Yeah, I don't think there is an ego with the
frequencies coming in, whatever it is, water, air, plasma. I don't know. But I could see the
brain being actually the bad thing. That's like, Oh, are my shoes okay? Do they notice
there's my makeup? All right. Look at that woman, you know, all these, all these bad thoughts
you have all day. And why would if you really think about this, if your spirit is coming
from source, why would people's mind chatter be walking around all days? How much negative
shit do people say in their head all day like tons, even when it's not super negative, you're
like, for fuck's sake, lady, can't you bag your groceries? You're like, I do it all the time.
I don't think that's coming from source. I think that's that could be maybe what the brain
does is like an egoic layer onto thought like a signal disruptor or regulator. You see what
I mean? I don't know. I could be totally wrong. People listening might be like this guy don't
know what he's talking about. I admit it. But I could see that happening.
Yeah. Well, I mean, like you said, nobody actually knows. I mean, they're very serious
and I'm just pulsating what it could be. And these retarded people, they're really happy
ever like Down syndrome and retarded people. They're like the happiest people ever. They
have no ego. They're totally loving. They're like a dog. They're just having a great old
time no matter what's going on around them. Yeah, the interesting thing and I'm sure you've
you've gone into that as well. Like with the telepathy tapes, you know, these artists, they have
they are connected to other areas of consciousness, if you like, for want of a better
phrase. So they are more connected because they're not they're not limited by whatever
the brain is feeling that the brain filters are off, if you like. So I mean, I'm using the
language language that kind of works for me. But I'm I'm open to other ideas. And I yeah,
I'm really, as I say, open. And the more I hear about all of this, it becomes more fascinating
and more questions. So, you know, that's again asking the like, who are we? What is this?
You know, like I say, the eternal questions. So yeah, there are so many.
I'm with you. Like, it's I think the important thing is to just say we don't know just like
you're saying you and I aren't sitting here today claiming to know any of this crap.
But I think the way to be is to at least be thinking about this and looking at those kids
and thinking differently than what we're told. I think the biggest problem is that I think the
brain too is where school takes 20 years of bullshit and sticks it in the memory, you know,
it might just be like a receptacle for bullshit, which is why they call it like Brian mind control.
You know, so yeah, I think maybe these and not by the way, not all autistics have this
power. It's it's not like all of them there. Oh, no, no, no. I was just gonna say just,
you know, with the ones that they, you know, through the telepathy tapes, the one, you know,
the children that they've spoken to. I mean, I was going to say, we're heading towards the
first hour. I just want to see what was an hour. No, not not yet. I got about 10 minutes. It was
just really what we wanted to cover to keep in that first, which doesn't have to be a strict
hour, but in the first part for, you know, people who are just, you know, say just
people who are subscribers and who are going to stay just I would like to talk about the book
for the first three people. If you don't mind, because we have to pitch it and you helped us
edit it, which is great. But before we go into the before we go into the members hour,
if we can pitch the book a little because I have to know what you have to because it's
it's a great book. And it's, well, again, not going to. So, okay, what inspired you
to write? I mean, which ones do you want? I mean, you're talking about the jokes of Denzel,
the goons, I mean, do you want to talk about both of them?
Well, yeah, I mean, I mean, the newest book we have out is the goons laser balloons.
And I actually wrote this, I can't remember it was 2018 or 2019, but it was when Paradise
California got lit up by the dew weapons. We saw a paradise light on fire.
Trees weren't burning, but you know, things made out of blue weren't burning, but houses were burning
in half. Fires were jumping from one house to another, missing another, jumping over trees,
which are flammable in California, in the middle of the dry season, impossible.
You know, and later, so I had written a story and I had written a bunch of stories back then.
And then we had what Felix and I now call the curse of the illustrator. So,
my cousin was supposed to draw this book and then he got ill during COVID and passed away,
nothing to do with COVID. Then Tracy Northern who illustrated the, so then we had Tracy start on
the dukes while Ryan was supposed to be doing this. So we had Tracy do this while Ryan should
have been doing this. And then Ryan died on this. So we had Tracy finish this and then
we wanted her to do this. And she started like three drawings and she died. Sadly,
rest in peace. We love you and miss you. Oh, we do. So this book's dedicated to her.
So then we got another one who didn't want to do it. Then we got a guy who said, oh,
he programs AI to get like his college degree was baking AI. So we're like, well,
let's just try this AI thing. And he got like a, I don't know, 10 pictures done.
And then he's like, I can't figure out how to get it to make the same characters.
So there are some people, we, yes, we did end up using AI photographs. Now, the thing is AI
is not drawing this AI is drawing like people in the 80s and 90s cartoons and books used to draw.
Some people go, that's an AI illustration. It's like, no, that's AI drawing like humans
used to draw in the 80s and 90s. AI is copying this too. So anyway, then he couldn't do it.
We're like, shit, then Felix tried to get another girl. She wanted to do it, read the script and
get it. Then another guy like, yeah. So then she, I don't know how she did it, but thank you.
She got her AI to talk to the other AI and finished the book.
She did. Can I just make it absolutely clear that the writing is all Steve's work?
Yes. All the stories that we put out are not AI. It's all mine. None of the writing is AI,
none of that. And for the people who are like, you can't put out AI pictures in your book,
dude, we tried. We tried. Like our illustrators are all dying or quitting or couldn't do it.
It's not that we didn't try. We really wanted that book to be organic because like the Dukes of
Dents was Tracy had. But the message is anyway, the story is teaching the children about agenda
21 and agenda 30 in a safe space because you're not supposed to be scaring the hell out of your
children, but you are not supposed to be raising dummies who aren't prepared to grow up in
it and are, you know, California, like Hawaii. They are burning and flooding our cities down
that they want. They are. So the story is what's going on. There's these people, as you know,
the toons and their northern neighbors are the nasty goons and they want their land.
But we don't even make it close to reality. We make it talking about plum wines in the trees.
But yeah, and these goons burn their town down and then a little girl witnesses it happening
because they use laser balloons at night. And then she tries to tell the town who's trying to
figure out how did our town burn down last night and how our house has gotten half.
And they don't believe the little girls. So like all all of my books, like Dr. Seuss,
there's a moral to the story or a lesson, you know, it has like I said, like that
you start fun, you get a little dark and then you have to end fun and say,
by the way, and then they build up the kids like, I know you're smart enough to get this.
What do you think? What would you do? You know, so the parent or teacher, whoever's reading this,
it's more like a homeschooling book, but anyone could read it. But so if you're not just reading
your kid a bedtime story and like, good night, the end, you know, there's a part in all of
our books where you stop and say, let's talk, let's talk about this. What do you think?
How do you feel about this? What do you think?
Totally. And encouraging children to ask questions, to be aware, again, you know,
no pun intended with the name of this podcast, but you know, being disearning and being able to say,
I saw something and speak up. So, you know, that's an incredibly important message
that even though some people, you know, she wasn't believed, somebody did and I'm not going
to say too much, not spirally, but I mean, it's really to encourage children to
recognize their awareness or to be recognized that they are important. Because I think there's a lot of,
you know, pushing down and that's part of the problem. A lot of what's going on,
that children are diminished and, you know, they just, oh, you know, you just little
and unimportant and no, they are in many ways more tuned in, which I'm sure we'll
get into, which is what I was really saying with the autist, that they're,
in the first few, well, again, the first few years and we can go into NDS and those sorts
of things as well. But, you know, the first few years, they are less here, if you like,
and they're more connected to other things. So, they can tune into what's going on,
they're more aware. And when that's subdued and suppressed, that's the worst thing,
I think, that happens to children. All of that is suppressed. And so, your book is wonderful
because it's saying, this character saw something and was brave enough to speak out about it and,
you know, just ask questions. So, again, it's all of this. It's saying, okay, we're going to
listen to you instead of, you know, just shut up and, you know, sit in a corner or whatever
it is. Yeah, which is what I, yeah, I, like, and now Tom Cowan's got a new book about parenting the
same. He's saying the same. I raised my son the same. I'm like, what happens if whenever it might,
you know, they all, when the kids are two or three, why, why, why? I just said, what happens if
I, instead of just giving some dumb answer, I give a collegiate level answer to a four-year-old.
So, I used, I did it as an experiment. He's, he used to go away and come back and think
about it and he had answers. I was like, how the fuck did you understand that? I was reading him
Orwell, like, not just Animal Farm 1984 when he was nine and he was figuring out the ending.
And I've always thought the same as Tom. Like, I think the reason a lot of us grow up like dumb
children as adults is because we were treated like dumb children as children. I think children
mature the Jesuits themselves who are the biggest mind control entity on the planet said,
give us a child till it's seven and it'll be a Jesuit for life. They know the formative
years are where you make the whole life pattern. You know, so that, that's where I'm at. I'm like,
why not make a cool children's book that's telling cool stuff without scaring the shit out of them,
which is, you know, they need to save space of fiction as I call it. Yeah. But we could
talk about that in part two, maybe more of the psychology of all that stuff.
Yes. I mean, that's, that's an area that really fascinates me. And I, I mean, I didn't quite take
the same tack with, with my son, but I didn't, I couldn't speak to him like a, you know, in baby
languages. I was like, no. And, and besides which, what's the point of, you know, teaching them
choo choo, and it's like, we'll teach them to train because otherwise he goes to choo choo,
no, it's a train. You know, don't confuse and tell them what it is in the first place.
Anyway, um, so I, anyway, I, I'm not going to do mistakes, but again, you know, you're just,
it is important to, to encourage children to be themselves and to be forthright and not
just suppress them and oppress them. So I think we had to listen to them and believe in them,
even in this book, you know, and we say like, there's a part where it's asking the child, it's
saying, what would you do if they all after you? But we're saying, would you listen to a believer?
But we're saying like, even if you don't believe her right away, which is okay, we're not saying
you have to believe everything everyone says. No, we're teaching the child, it's okay to be
skeptical. But, but look what happened. Oh, by the way, these are on most Amazon platforms,
apparently not all of them. Felix showed me, I keep saying all Amazons and they're not, but like
most of the main ones. But yeah, like if you need a, you know, if you're homeschooling, you need a
birthday present or a Christmas book, or I don't know, it's coming up now, it's solstice.
Foon's laser balloons and the Duke's a dance yet. Yeah. And, and they're just the beginning
because you've got other ideas for other books, if I'm not mistaken. Oh yeah, we'll talk about
that in the private hour, because we're going to get canceled by the third books.
Okay, no, no, no, no. The left's going to cancel us on the third book.
We don't, we don't have to, no, we don't have to talk. But what I'm saying is that these are
going to, these are the first of a series that there are going to be more. More. That's
the important. So, you know, you're still writing and got other ideas with how to help
children. And with Tom Cowan's parenting, but I actually have that as well for another reason.
Is it good? I haven't read it. I've only heard him talk about it. Oh, okay. No, no, no, no. I've
almost finished it. It's, yeah, it's, yeah, very good. And a lot of it is, if you've heard him
talk about that on his videos, then, then there's a lot of that in there. So, yeah, it's, it's
just to, not just, it is to recognize that children are members of society that, you know,
they're, they're not machines, you know, they, they each, each one has a personality and they
contribute and they're open. And that's how we, that's how we have to, I'm sorry, I'm just
thinking, so I just got in my head. That's the way forward, you know, that's how we go forward
is, is encouraging children to be open-minded, to think. So again, asking questions, you know,
being open-minded and being able to ask questions without parents or
authorities or gradants, whatever, just saying, oh, you know, shut up and sit there and,
you know, do as you're told. No, listen to them ask. And yeah, I mean, maybe sometimes
it might be a silly question. And other times you've got, actually, that's an interesting
question. And to have that dialogue, like you say, to, to not treat them as
silly, because then they'll, they'll collapse and they'll have all kinds of
psychological problems as they grow up and all of that. So and get to the, well, I mean,
I think that's a lot of why we're where we are at the moment. And, you know, so yeah,
we'll dive into, we'll dive into that in the second part, like you say, with the psychology.
Um, so was, uh, well, yes, because, uh, yeah, we're also going to look more. I mean,
I know we haven't covered that here, but we will in the second part talk about your films,
and your deep dive into the whole Antarctica. Oh, yeah, that one's, that one's heating up again
now too, just when I thought it was all over here. We go again. So yeah, that's interesting.
Well, yes, it's like they're, they're not quite prepared to, um,
lie down and shut up. So they're going to fight back a little bit. But I think, you know, once
people see the amount of information that you put forward in your three,
three films about that is, I mean, that, that is just phenomenal. I mean, they are
three more phenomenal pieces of work. So, um, I think, yeah, well, I think we'll,
we'll leave that for, um, for this first part. So thank you for everybody, uh, to everybody for
listening and please join us, um, subscribe to join us for the second part. So, um, thank you.
Thank you for listening. And yeah, see you either on part two or on the next episode.
Yeah. And subscribe to Dawn. Yeah. We'll take five and then we'll hit part two
because I've got some good juice on Antarctica.