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You affirm that religions share a common origin and I agree totally with you.
Could you explain a little on this point and in what things do religions lead back to the same source?
Yeah, well that's an interesting question.
I've always questioned religion all my life.
I've never gone with religion, but when I was writing the roadmap, where I quoted you, of course,
it really, really hit me because of the 28 chapters in the roadmap,
I think five are about religion in its various forms.
It really hit me just how fundamental religious belief is to human control.
And what I'm saying is that, you know, if you look at the level that humans are operating on,
you see loads of different religions and you see loads of different political ideologies.
You see orthodox science, which I say is just another religion because it's structured in the same way.
It operates in the same way.
And it seems to be like this mass of different competing religious political scientific beliefs.
But if you go into this other dimensional level and the inner core of this cult within human society,
then all these religions and political parties, whatever you want to call them, and orthodox science,
they all fuse into the same hands if you like.
This is very, very, very important to human control
because if you look at the mathematics alone, it should be impossible for this through history sequence
to constantly recur where the few control the many.
We're told there's eight billion plus people in the world,
but the number of people in full knowledge who are driving the direction of the world to greater and greater dystopia,
AI, human fusion dystopia is what they want.
The number doing that is a tiny fraction by comparison to the eight billion.
So mathematically, it should not be possible.
So then you look at, okay, so why is it happening then?
And you see that there's a structure in place that works like this.
You are the few and you're faced with a vast number of people.
If those people were in unity, if they were working together and they knew of your existence and what you were doing,
then it would be over overnight.
The house of cards, because that's what it is, would come down.
So first of all, you have to hide you and what you're doing.
You have to hide the source from which it's all coming from.
So you lead the population to believe that presidents and prime ministers and governments are running the world.
Then you look at the population in general and you think, well, if they unified, then we've got no chance.
So how do we break them up?
Number one, you get them to believe rigidly and without question in a belief of some kind.
Overwhelmingly, it's a religious belief.
It's extraordinary the numbers when you think that there's eight billion people in the world, we're told,
and 5.4 billion of them are said to identify either as Christian, as Muslim, or as Hindu.
Never mind all the others.
So you get people to believe rigidly in some kind of belief.
Now overwhelmingly, it's a religious belief, whichever religion it is.
But also science is a religion in the sense that it has a rigid belief that repels all borders
until the evidence is so overwhelming it can't do it anymore.
That's the story of science.
Well, science in the modern world anyway.
And you have the political beliefs.
You're left, you're right, you're center, whatever.
I've said so many times this manipulative force couldn't care less what you believe.
So long as you believe it rigidly and without question.
So you've got and what you must have to do this is you must have many different beliefs that people believe rigidly.
Because then first of all, your belief becomes like a prison.
It becomes like a prison cell for your mind because you will not go outside the walls of your belief
into those areas of potential insight, possibility, knowing, awareness, discovery.
You won't go there if it's outside of your belief system.
You won't go there.
So if you're in a religion, then if you go there beyond the walls of the religion, you're said to be dabbling in the occult.
It's the devil.
And if you are a follower of orthodox science, then you have your rigid belief system as well and anything beyond it.
You are a pseudo scientist or dabbling in the paranormal.
And so orthodox science and religion work exactly the same way they have a belief system.
You can't go beyond it otherwise you're no longer part of the group belief system.
Now once you've got that, you're holding people's perception of reality in a prison cell.
You have the perfect environment to divide and rule the target population and play them off against each other.
So you play Christianity off against Islam.
You play Christianity and Judaism off against Islam, which is what's going on in Iran now.
And all the way through what we call human history or what appears to be human history,
you have this dynamic of different belief systems being played off against each other.
In the political arena, you have left played off against right so that basically if you're of the right, then the left is all bad because they're the enemy.
And if you're on the left, then the right is all bad because they're the enemy.
And you're seeing it now, not least in Islam's the enemy and Christianity is following the true God and they're the people who are following the wrong God.
It's perfect for divide and rule.
And so what you're doing is you are creating an environment in which the target population which in unity would bring you down overnight.
If they knew you existed, you are playing them off and setting them at war with each other.
And that's how a few can control the many because if people just stopped, whatever they call themselves,
if they just stopped, just a minute, stop, stop, quiet, how is it that you're my enemy but the strings attached to you
and the strings attached to me are held by the same hand? How can that be?
Well, how it can be is that's how the few control the many and always have the classic Illuminati global cult symbol of the pyramid and all seeing eye,
which is on the dollar bill and it's on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.
You see it so often.
You look at that pyramid structure, that hierarchy.
And at the top is the all seeing eye and the all seeing eye is this other dimensional force and it's running the pyramid and this other dimensional force,
ultimately, is a state of extreme psychopathic chaotic distorted schematic consciousness.
And what it does is it controls the pyramid by infiltrating the awareness consciousness of its players of its assets,
of those that are imposing its will.
And therefore, as you come down from this other dimensional level into the global cult,
you see people that are expressing exactly that state of consciousness in the human world.
So, I mean, you look at things that I've been researching for decades, like the the satanic ritual network of which which underpins this cult,
the pedophilia network which into interconnects with the Satanist network and underpins this cult.
You look at the Epstein files and what's come out there.
You look at Jimmy Savile, the BBC entertainer who was a procurer of children for the rich and famous as well as being a mega pedophile.
It's all come out in Britain.
And he was extremely, extremely right at the heart of the British royal family, Jimmy Savile.
This disc jockey, as he was, just played records on the BBC and he's invited into the inner core of the British royal family.
And he was allowed to do his mega pedophilia right up to his death in 2011, while being at the heart of the British royal family.
I mean, it's an extraordinary story, but this is the mentality that is directing the direction of the world.
So this consciousness, this fake God consciousness is psychopathic.
Well, psychopathic doesn't really cut it.
I mean, it is super, super, super psychopathic.
And if you look at the definitions of a psychopath, right up there are a deletion of empathy and a deletion of compassion.
You have no empathy, you have no compassion.
And I call empathy the fail safe mechanism of human behavior.
Because if you can put yourself in the feelings of that which you're affecting those which you're affecting, then it will change the way you treat them.
But if you have no empathy, you don't have the ability to have those feelings and this consciousness doesn't, then there are no limits anymore.
There are no limits to what you will do.
There's no horror that you won't perform and be involved in.
And that's what the inner core of this cult is like, and that's what this other dimensional force is like.
And that's why the world is as it is.
It wants people in all these low vibrational states.
Thank you.
I agree with you totally on that, of course.
Here is my third question.
In your book you refer to Christian Zionists.
Yeah.
This subject is still unfamiliar to many people, especially in Italy.
So could you kindly explain what Christian Zionism is?
It's wrong today.
And why it is so crucial to you and to your work?
Well, we're now entering your domain.
Big time.
You know, you have a Bible that has an Old Testament and a New Testament.
And because it is said to be the Word of God.
Somehow there has to be a acceptance that the Old Testament and the New Testament are.
The New Testament is an extension of the Old Testament.
And it's the Word of God.
And because it's the Word of God and God can't be wrong.
Then somehow you have to explain to yourself the massive contradictions.
You know, I'm not saying the Bible has nothing relevant to say.
I think there's some great lines in it.
But there's also some absolutely grotesque stuff in it,
not least in the Old Testament.
So you have the belief and the lifelong indoctrination into Jewish people that they are God's chosen people.
Why?
Because the Old Testament says so.
And there's a covenant with God.
I'm now seeing Roman Catholic spokespeople saying,
no, no, no, that covenant was lost.
You know, God ended that covenant.
The covenant now is with us.
We're now the chosen people.
It's like, why do you have to be chosen people?
Why can't we all just get on?
What were you doing?
But the chosen people.
Now, the point being that you had the creation of Israel,
which I document in great detail in a number of my books.
It's quite a story and it relates to the Rothschilds massively.
And so you have this tiny country in the Middle East called Israel.
And that which runs Israel, which actually is pseudo Jewish rather than Jewish is extremely small in number,
but is also at the government level and secret society level and Mossad level and military level.
It's also like the point of the spear, the point of the arrow in so many ways of this cult.
So if you look at why the Rothschilds brought about modern Israel,
well, you're looking at it.
You're seeing it.
You've seen it ever since 1948.
In fact, before in the way that the Palestinians were forced off their own land in their hundreds of thousands in terror at what was being done to them.
And the Rothschilds put that country Israel based on the Old Testament,
written by who knows who knows when and who knows what circumstances,
because it was going to create mayhem in the Middle East.
It was going to create this vortex of conflict.
I mean, if you're talking about producing low vibrational emotional energy,
I mean, well, you know, Israel is the home of it really in terms of its actions and its effect on the world.
However, if you then look at the number of Jewish people in the world,
even, you know, officially Jewish according to Jewish sources,
it's something like 17 million 1517 million.
Well, that's that's ridiculous.
There is 8 billion people in the world.
How can you have such an impact when you're only 17 million?
So what's necessary is another vast number of people need to be pulled into support the agenda.
Not of the 17 million because many Jewish people oppose all this stuff.
But the inner core of the 17 million that are driving this Netanyahu is a classic.
And so because you have an Old Testament and a New Testament,
to a new belief or you're told to believe that you must take them as one unit,
then the Christian belief system of the New Testament has to accept the Old Testament
because both are the word of God, apparently.
And so Jewish people have a covenant not only with God, but with that land, the promised land.
So suddenly what you've done is you've generated support from massive numbers of Christians,
not least in America, for the agenda of this inner core of of what runs Israel.
And the ones that are most vehement in that are Christian Zionists.
They're the Christians who believe not just in the New Testament, but the Old Testament,
and that Israel is God's chosen people.
And, you know, you look at Ted Cruz, the American politician, who says that he supports Israel right or wrong
because the Bible says that if you don't support Israel, then then God will look very unkindly on you.
This is the mentality of the Christian Zionists.
And then what you find when you do the research is that Israeli sources,
sources that go back to Israel, dominate the Christian Zionist Christian movement,
just as organizations like APAC, a foreign entity that represents Israel in the United States,
massively funds the great majority of American politicians, Democrat and Republican.
So you now have the Christian Zionists in America supporting Israel's action in bombing Iran.
They support Israel's action in bombing Lebanon.
They supported their action in bombing Gaza because they are biblically programmed
to believe that they must support Israel right or wrong.
And so it's basically numbers.
If you look at the number of Christians in the world, it's massive, massive.
And if you can gather a great number of them to support your agenda,
it doesn't matter if you're only 17 million, you've got a great wave of support for what you are seeking to do.
This is why Benjamin Netanyahu is always quoting the Bible.
Quoting the vicious bloodthirsty Yahweh of the Bible when he's talking about bombing people.
I mean, it's extraordinary.
And you know, this whole thing, we're talking about religion, this whole thing of the Bible,
the Bible treated as an historical document.
Now here and there, there will be historical events that it will connect with.
But I mean, where's the evidence that any of this stuff ever happened and not least the Old Testament stuff.
But once you are believing in the Bible story, the Bible suddenly becomes an historical document,
rather than something to add to the mix of possibility becomes an historical document.
And therefore, if you don't believe what's in the Bible,
then you're dismissed by Christians, you're dismissed by Jewish people,
because you've gone outside of what they believe.
And it's something that is so fundamental to human control.
I mean, I'm looking all the time now, especially with the Iran war going on,
at the biblical, the literal biblical endorsement of what's happening in Iran on the basis of, well, this is in the Bible.
And you know, it's like I mentioned, you've got the Jewish perspective that they're God's chosen people.
You've got more and more of these Roman Catholic spokespeople saying, no, no, that covenant with God was ended.
It's the people that believe in Christianity that are now the chosen people.
They are arguing over the interpretation of the Bible as if the Bible is a historical document that must be obeyed whatever.
And you can see the kind of the mess and the, you know, I've described human society a long time ago as like putting 50 balls of wool in a very little room,
putting 50 kittens in there, shut in the door, coming back two hours later and someone saying, oh, sort that lot out.
It's unbelievable. The interacting nonsense that drives human perception and leads to human control.
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Thank you. I've just seen the most horrendous news on the Epstein files. No, I actually wish I could unsee it.
You mean that stuff that I've been banging on about for years now? I actually what?
Look, you can just admit when you're wrong.
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And I'll get one of those, please.
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