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Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, everybody here back to the Missing Link.
Today we're excited to talk with someone that's a chef, nutritionist, author, and health advocate.
She's a former Victorian chair of Nutrition Australia and Melbourne president of Slow Food.
She sat on boards that consulted the Australian government on public health policy,
and she's here to share her story. Welcome to the Missing Link live,
Sherry Strong. How are you doing today, Sister?
I'm great, Jesse. Thank you for having me on your show.
You're very, very welcome. So who you're welcome. Why don't you start off with
telling us about yourself and your journey, a little bit about your background,
your education, what part of the world you grew up in, what part of the world you're
now, if you like disclosing that information, what got you into food and nutrition and health
in Australia, anything about yourself and your journey that you wanted to share with
our audience here today, especially if they may be hearing you here for the first time.
Great. This is a three hour podcast, right?
Two hours. I'm teasing you.
Well, I like to say I grew up in the culinary equivalent to a gastronomic black hole.
So seriously bad food in the in the 60s and 70s in Calgary, Alberta, was born there.
And just had developed some really bad eating habits. Definitely was a sugar addict from a
really young age and a very emotional child, which they kind of go hand in hand.
And I loved cooking as long ago as I remember, I remember wanting to be in the kitchen and
cooking. I remember waking up in the morning at five a.m. at four or five years of age and going
into the kitchen and putting things into pots and burning things and burning toast and making
jello in a bowl that actually set, but unfortunately it had raw chicken in it from the night before,
so we couldn't eat it. But I love cooking and I love food and basically developed a bit of a
I used a lot of food to comfort myself, lots of trauma in the childhood, lots of, you know,
difficult things that I didn't have the emotional skills to deal with as many young children don't.
So food, food was one of my best friends. And that continued. I finished top of my
class in food and nutrition in high school. I've been studying independently of the curriculum
in food and nutrition. I would study and do book reports on cholesterol and the myth of
cholesterol at 15 years of age. And my teacher's like, why are you handing in this assignment? I
didn't ask for it. Right. So it was a total food geek. And I went to Australia in the late
80s, so 89. And I became a chef there. I ended up marrying someone in Australia. I was there
in total for 22 years. And 11 of those years, I was married to someone. And I was really lonely in
Australia. It was a really difficult thing to establish myself with no friends in a new country.
And again, food became quite my friend. And at one point I was starting off the morning with
half a liter of cereal, the ultra chocolate ice cream and, you know, free-basing doughnuts
for lunch and, you know, bit of cake in the afternoon and eating food leftovers from my
chef's job before I came home and ate dinner. And I ballooned to twice my size. So not 10 foot
four. I haven't had a massive height reduction. I was twice my size and I was miserable.
And I really was struggling because I thought sugar and food was stronger than me. I tried
every diet, you know, and they'd all failed. And I just couldn't find my way out of it.
And kind of the irony at the time was I had a cooking school, a holistic cooking school called
the Food Lovers Workshop. And I was teaching things like low-fat, quick and easy meals for
busy people. And I used to, you know, kind of chuckle to myself. I wonder if, you know,
my students are thinking, does she eat any of this low-fat food or maybe she's eating all of
it. And I then also studied health and behavioral sciences and dietetics at Deakin University.
And this was while I was on the board of Nutrition Australia, the Victorian board of
Nutrition Australia. And it was a little bit later they made me the Victorian chair.
But while I was doing this, I was studying at university. I started to see how
industry influenced university was. And basically they were just churning out people
to be, you know, voices of the food industry. They weren't necessarily interested in what was
really true about nutrition and food. And I remember studying in the lecture and there'd be
a professor who had the notes for dairy. And on the actual
PowerPoint presentation in the bottom right-hand corner was the Dairy Corporation's logo.
So I'm looking around in the classroom and going, does anyone else think that there might be some
conflict of interest here that we're not getting the whole picture of it? And I was genuinely
curious. I wasn't there to challenge my teachers. I wanted to learn. And I was so naive about
what university was for. It wasn't to teach the truth. It was basically to turn out soldiers
for industry. And I remember putting up my hand and saying, what about the, can you tell me about
the mucus-forming properties of dairy and refined dairy? And my lecturer would say, oh, Sherry,
I think you'll find that's largely psychosomatic. And I'm like, no, I'm pretty, pretty certain
that I've experienced it and I, you know, I've studied about it. So I would write papers
and if it challenged the narrative, there would be big lines through my papers.
And just basically just blocking out pages and not even checking my references. And I learned
very quickly, ah, if I don't toe the line here, I'm not going to get a degree. And so I made a
decision that was a bit difficult at the time. Because I, at the time I felt like somehow I
was a failure that I couldn't, couldn't just suck it up and get a degree. But everything in my
body and my intuition said, I'm not going to lie my way through a degree or, you know,
pretend certain things don't exist or do exist to just to get the grade to pass.
So I left and I went on a journey to actually figure out how we are supposed to eat. Like,
I thought, if I've, I sit on these boards, you know, and I've done all this study,
you know, and I'm in university and I have so many questions and I'm so confused.
How does the average person deal with this when, you know, there's, they've got a full-time job,
they're raising kids, you know, they've got, you know, a life outside of it. How do you actually
know? And I realized that it wasn't just the everyday person that was nutritionally confused,
it was professionals as well. Very few admitted it. And very few, particularly at that time
in the early 90s, were brave enough to actually go against the status quo. Because
at that time you would be branded as a quack. In fact, they had something that they started
called quack watch. And if you went outside the narrative, your name would be put on this,
this board when the internet was new as a quack. So they were on the guard to anyone who spoke
outside of the narrative, you would have been called out and you didn't want to be called
a quack. So you want to be really careful to follow the talking points of industry.
And so I started to apply philosophies that I basically was asking for guidance and I got
what I call downloads. And these philosophies came in the name of things like nature's principle,
the consumption concept, the lethal recipe, all that kind of thing. And what I found
is that it made a lot of sense and it took masses amounts of information and distilled it
by going macro and seeing things in context of how the human species is meant to eat.
I learned that there wasn't just one way of eating and that our body was built to survive
and thrive and all of that. And we were made made to survive. So there isn't one way if you
look at the blue zones, there's diversity in what they ate. If you look at hunter gathers,
they ate 11 to 15 plant species to every animal species. We don't hear carnivores
talking about that. When we look at all of these cultures, we get a picture of how we're meant to
eat but the thing is that we've deviated so far and we have so much information. We are literally
drowning in information that it's confusing and a confused mind will either not take action
or it will bounce off from this to this to this as they try certain things and maybe not
have a linear line of a straight path that actually makes sense. So as I was starting to
develop these philosophies and I was teaching people to cook, I realized that teaching people
what to eat and what not to eat took them to a certain level of success. Then getting them in
the kitchen and teaching them how to cook and how to prepare their own food gave them another
level of success and then teaching them the philosophy so they understood they didn't
have to have an app or to follow a guru to figure out how they're meant to eat. They had this level
of success but then I discovered this was kind of the missing piece for me and where the weight
started to come off was when I understood that we don't just need to be nourished physically
but we need to be nourished mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. To have success I found that
we started to get people to remove the toxicity in the physical realm if we actually worked on
the mental, emotional, and spiritual areas of where we're toxic and started to remove that and nourish
in each of those three quadrants. Taking out the toxins and starting to develop a healthy
relationship food in the physical became so much easier because there's a lot of things that
drive our eating behavior that are subconscious. We're not conscious of it so you can learn
what to eat and what not to eat but if you don't nourish yourself mentally, emotionally, and spiritually
you will feel this discomfort on some level and that's where a lot of people will start to seek
substances or behaviors that are addictive that distract or numb them to
yeah so they actually feel better. They use food as opposed to learning how to do it
by reprogramming the brain. And so that's where I kind of
let off. From that I started to do a lot of media, television, and then I became a professional
speaker in Australia so it was what you call a celebrity chef nutritionist and was paid to
speak on world stages. I did a TED talk in Tokyo and I loved the speaking side of things.
2011 I had a real strong intuitive urge to come back to Canada so I came back to Vancouver. I
started teaching at the Institute of Holistic Nutrition and then I opened up a holistic cooking
school and in 2014 I finished writing my book that I'd been spending over 10 years on called
Return to Food and it was the life-changing anti-diet and I've since renamed it to
How Going Back is the Way Forward and after that I got back on the speaking circuit here in Canada
was represented by a bureau and started a program called Sweet Freedom Helping People Beat Sugar
Addiction and Junk Food Addiction and then COVID hit and life was never the scene
and admittedly Jesse I was in a lot of fear around that time and I was bouncing from one thing
to the next kind of realizing my speaking career as I knew it was over because I started
speaking out and then I got a I was working for a billionaire family in Campbell River my first
day on the job was flying to Kabul in their private jet to feed them the two of them and their
pilots while they were scoping out the grounds of their new 27,000 foot house and I remember
while I was cooking for this family it sounds really glamorous it was not and I just remember
thinking I wished I was doing this for my mom and dad because I know they need it more
and they'd appreciate it a lot more and I got my wish I was very vocal about what was going on
and and at the three month mark my stint finished with them they they didn't actually retain me
and so I came to Alberta my parents were about to go into a home my mother was disabled by
antibiotic in 2016 and my father aging father could no longer care for a monazone so I moved to
St Albert found a house moved them in with me and cared for them in the last three and a half years
of their life so they didn't end up in a home there was lots of hospital visits which were
very interesting let's just say the least I believe I had to fight for their lives several
times but they both passed last year five months to the day of each other I was able to hold both
of their hands as they passed and since then I started to come back to work I couldn't do the
work that I was doing while I was caring for them it was a bit too much and so so I've
just resumed that work last fall I started back sweet with sweet freedom helping people
beat sugar and junk food addiction so why do you think people are so addicted to sugar and junk food
yeah well it's easy it's to figure that out if you look at how they're made if you look at how
opium sap is turned into heroin how cocoa leaves are turned into cocaine refined sugars oil
salts grains and chemicals refined dairy refined you know refined anything is processed in the
similar way what they do for those drugs is they start to cook it anytime you cook something you
diminish the nutrients in it so the body automatically says feed me more because I'm not getting less
that's why you can eat easily eat a cup of broccoli cooked but it's much harder to eat it raw
okay so as you cook something you diminish nutrients the body says feed me more but what
happens with turning opium sap into cocaine or sorry into heroin and cocoa leaves into cocaine
is they start to remove the macro micronutrients and the more they remove the more addictive
it is they expose it to all different kinds of chemicals but it basically when you take something
in that's whole in nature has colors in it and you refine it to a pure white substance you turn
it into something that's highly addictive and that's what they're doing with what I call the
lethal recipe so refined sugars oil salts grains and chemicals refined dairy and so
what happens now is you turn it from something that in nature we would self-regulate so drinking a
cup of cane juice most people I speak to find it difficult to drink a whole cup of cane juice
but if you refine it and you put into something like a soft drink like coca-cola or seven up
very few people have a problem unless you you know you can't stand those things but
most people who have a sugary palate will find it easy to drink a cup of that
but here's the the kicker with sugar sugar lights up the brain's dopamine receptors eight times more
than cocaine so it's highly addictive and the other thing is is that it's in everything it's
everywhere it's in things that you would never know that aren't even sweet they can actually
create types of sugar like as someone just said they're glucose and fructose you can
actually get glucose that doesn't even taste sweet right okay and so these are highly processed
sugars they're not natural the way the way they're actually using in foods now okay and you're right
angeline artificial sweeteners are even worse they're called excitotoxins they're known neurotoxins
and I you know I will take refined sugar over an artificial sweetener in a heart beat so
most of that food's made in a laboratory and what they do is they are very clever at getting us to
consume more and so they found the balance of the sugar fat and salt and the chemicals that
will fool your brain into eating something that you never would in its kind of highly refined state
unless it was kind of mixed together the way the way they mix it together artificial sweeteners
and flavors we know are bad but natural flavors and natural sorry natural flavors and natural colors
are also highly processed they're not good for you they might have the word natural in them but
you could never make them in nature and so what you have now is you have food that's come out
of a lab and it's designed to fool the brain into consuming something that we never would
in nature well one you couldn't make them in nature why do you think there are people
that seem to be health conscious intelligent you know workout try to make rather good decisions
but don't care about maltodextrin or artificial sweeteners energy drinks they'll pound them back
they say they're health conscious they look you know rather physically fit but yet they're
pounding back these chemicals without no question you raise a great question I love this question
because one of the things that I teach people that not many people are out there teaching
it's counter-intuitive is that you can be just as unhealthy in a thin body as you can
in an overweight body and here's the thing that a lot of fit you know healthy fit I won't
people are not aware of the body actually creates fat cells to store excess toxins away
from vital organs so here's the problem if you have like one two three percent body fat
and you are pounding back all these foods with chemicals there's no where for it to go except
into your vital organs and this is one of the things that I challenged one of Australia's
leading dietitians Dr. Rosemary Stanton who I have huge amount of respect for she was one of
the dietitians one of the few that reached that kind of level of recognition and didn't sell out
but she was going on about obese people and I said Rosemary you've done rounds in hospitals
and she said yeah I said then you would know there's just as many thin people in hospitals
as there are obese people this was going back in the early 2000s and she's like yeah you're right
so one of the things I teach people I have a this program called sweet freedom and last night
module one I was teaching them I was showing them the illustration we've all seen the body of the
silhouette of the fat person the silhouette of the thin person and the silhouette of the thin person
has all the healthy foods in it and the silhouette of the fat person has all the junk foods in it
and I actually have for years I've been trying to create a reverse of that
and I recently was using AI to do it and it just wouldn't do it so I asked AI to produce
a thin silhouette silhouette with all junk food in it and a fat silhouette silhouette of all healthy
food in it it took me 20 tries to get something that you know was close to approximating what I was
trying to show and what I try to show people is that yes if you're morbid low obese there's
going to be a problem because one of the reasons is to eat that volume of food is hard on your
body even if it was healthy food but the chances are to get to morbid obesity you have to shut off
the body's mechanisms and the only way you can do it to get to that size is to eat highly processed
foods or it's it's much harder if you don't so there's a lot of people who are eating because
they want to look a certain way this goes back to your original question and they're looking at
the outside instead of understanding what does their inside look like when I work with people
I say don't care about your weight right now like that's not my goal I don't sell a weight loss program
I sell a program that helps people to get off of junk food and sugar and beat that addiction
and I want you to do it in a really healthy way so people will typically lose like 8 to 10 pounds
over the eight weeks but that's not my concern I'm much more interested in what's going not
only inside their body because now they're actually cleansing out their body and they're
starting to nourish their body with real food but they're also starting to get healthy on the inside
the way they think the way they feel you know how they feel you know in their spirit it starts to
get much healthier and then when you make those changes in those areas what will happen is those
changes tend to be much more lasting the process is way more peaceful people will say oh this is
way easier than I thought but a lot of people who are already thin think they don't have to
you know I'm thin it doesn't matter you know I don't have to necessarily learn about you know
nutrition this is changing you see seeing a lot of people who are into you know biohacking and getting
like super scientific about it and wanting to live forever and that kind of thing and I can see
a similar kind of problem that's happening where people are running from one kind of chemical
thing to another you know thing that can hack the body that isn't necessarily something that
would occur in nature was designed for the human body you might get a short-term gain from it
but if you now start to look at methylene blue is like all the rage and people are talking
about all the benefits from it but they're not understanding this was an industrial product
that was never meant for the human body so just like pharmaceuticals it might control a symptom
it might you know change something within your body as far as blood sugar or blood pressure
or something like that but usually what happens just like refined sugars sorry just like
most pharma drugs that are designed to suppress your blood sugar and they might do that but
then they create seven or eight other problems so that whole thing about pounding down everything
because you're thin is actually you know a lot of people can go go for a long time undiagnosed with
issues because because people aren't actually looking at at their their weight as you know
as problematic I think I over answered so someone that is thin that you know are fit
thin and fit that is putting a lot of toxic chemicals in their body potentially is a lot
more unhealthy than someone that's got pounds on them but that's eating clean but yet they
you know don't look as thin or as fit as that other person but can they be then potentially
healthier than someone that's pounding back tons of toxic chemicals and unnatural substances
100% 100% absolutely and the same goes for exercise you can you can be you know heavier
and if you're exercising regularly you're going to outlive and be healthier than
someone who is thin and is sedentary so it's you know nature designed us to move nature
designed us to eat natural foods nature did not design us to sit in a chair all day
and nature did not design us to actually eat what I call the enemy's diet so highly refined
processed foods with chemicals in it and here's the interesting thing about all of this
people are making it way more complicated than it needs to be you know this whole
scientism around our food I used to geek out on it I'll be honest you know I was
fascinated by certain things but then what I found when I was the Victorian chair of
nutrition Australia used to get the Asia Pacific clinical journals of nutrition
and what I found was that one month you would find a study that would prove that soy was
fantastic and had all these benefits the next month you'd find a study that said you know oh
soy is terrible it's nasty all that kind of thing and you will find this for years there's
you can find a study that will support anything you want to do you know pretty much not
everything but almost any kind of dietary justification you want you can probably find
a study to do it one because the food industry controls a lot of studies and so they confuse us
on purpose or they mislead us there's tons of misinformation that's you know industry
fed through studies but it doesn't have to actually be that difficult to figure out our
way through it in fact for thousands of years thousands and thousands of years humans have
not just survived but thrived without having a dietitian or a nutritionist you know around
because they ate in context to what was a bio available in their environment they ate seasonally
they locally they ate organically it wasn't called organic it just they weren't putting
they weren't poisoning their food right and they ate very much in whole like the food was
in its whole state or very close to its whole state it might be minimally processed you know
like grains would be ground but it was stone ground it still had you know integrity in it
and it wasn't hard for them to figure out what they needed to eat or how much
they needed to eat eat of it nature literally communicated all of that for them
how is someone supposed to disseminate through all the information that
is being bombarded with when like you just said dairy good dairy bad eggs good eggs bad meat good
meat bad you can find one way to support your answer and wheat good wheat bad you know we've
eaten wheat for you know thousands of years but yet now people are becoming sick from that
wheat and so some people not so much and they're eating it or maybe they just can't stop eating it
and then others get really ill if they even have any of it in their body but so how are
people to navigate through all this internet and swarm of information and trying to figure out
what's best for themself and that's like a great question a lot of people you know are
confused i believe that confusion is deliberate a confused mind makes either no decision or flip flops
and flounders and it's really actually quite simple no actually the going full carnivore will
work for a certain period of time but not for decades it's not the it's not the end of all
your worries and to actually eat super clean as a carnivore is incredibly expensive so that's
great if you're wealthy so in order to actually feed four adults my girlfriend who has vegan farms
they're like the cleanest beef you'll find one of the cleanest beef you'll find in Alberta for sure
they are 100 natural with their beef but for her and her husband and their two older children
if they were to eat carnivore for a month they would go through over well over she said well
over two thousand dollars worth of meat to do that so that's that's great if you're wealthy but for
the average person to eat super clean meat in the quantities that they suggest for the carnivore diet
is incredibly expensive it works for a lot of people in the short term just like going pure
vegan is vegan does they're both polar opposites you know in extremes but the common denominator
between two of those is that they have an absence of processed food okay so people as they clean
out their body because they're not eating you know refined carbohydrates and refined sugars and things
like that whether they choose vegan or carnivore they're going to feel good for a certain certain
period of time but the reason why as your question was talking about the the problem
with some people reacting to eat and some people not you can have a genetic predisposition to
being weak to certain foods you some people just have like cast iron stomachs or
or just bodies that can handle it for a certain period of time but the wheat that we're eating here
for the most part in North America is not just highly hybridized it is it's refined and it's
grown genetically you know which most of it's genetically modified so it has roundup and glyphosate
on it you know the chemicals on it has a very different impact on the body then something if
you have a heritage wheat from Europe like a lot of people say I can't eat bread here but when I go
to Italy I can eat the pasta and the bread and I don't have a problem it's not because of the
wheat that you're having like the fact that it is wheat it's the type of wheat and how it's
grown versus you know something that it's in its natural state in its minimally processed
so as as far as that goes like as far as trying to understand how we're meant to eat just go to the
most natural form um there are very few long you know long living cultures that were pure
vegan or pure carnivore I mean I go back to the fact the hunter-gatherers that a lot of people
will base you know these keto diets and things on they ate 11 to 15 plant species to every
animal species not only that they ate animals in a hierarchy of how easily they were obtained
or caught in nature so they weren't having rib eye steak every night you know um they were when
they did kill a big beast it was a tribal food they broke a town they used everything in that
beast um but they also would eat smaller you know smaller animals things that we would
consider unpalatable you know um some some we would call rodents you know squirrels you
possums all those kinds of things um and so this this extremism that we experience today with food
I just think it's another kind of I think it's a trap and especially the carnivore diet right
now that I believe is a diet the vegan diet was a trap for getting people to eat
highly processed food so thinking that it was natural because it came from plants well
a lot of the vegan you know fake stuff is all is definitely not something you could source in
nature so I refer to it as unnatural veganism um where they're eating these highly processed
things or things in amounts they would never consume in nature uh like cashews um so there's
only one species of bird in the world one species that can eat a cashew without releasing
the toxic poisons that will harm them uh cashews if you look at the young girls in India who are
paid to peel cashews their hands are totally black not black that can wash off but black
because they're burnt it actually the the toxin that's released from the cashews will burn
their hands well in nature that's nature's way of saying maybe this is not human food this is
for that bird or you know it's for to grow another plant um so now you'll see vegans who
are having tons of cashews in unnatural amounts and wondering why there's you know they're
experiencing health issues are in balance I've certainly seen that and then there's other
people who are doing the carnivore diet with highly highly processed animals so animals who
are eating basically the equivalent of the sad diet so highly refined food or food with chemicals
in it um and or they're you know consuming the animals that lots of drugs in it and I
believe right now as they're starting to put you know um nanotechnology and mRNA technology into
animals um pushing the carnivore diet as a trap so unless you can afford to spend thousands of
dollars each month you know to just eat your clean animals um the carnivore diet is not
suitable for everyone it doesn't work for everyone and I know yeah and well with what you said
about you know the carnivore diet and you know this was maybe five or ten years ago that I read
that 90% of the pharmaceuticals sold in the world get injected into animals so imagine how many
pill poppers are out there that are eating handfuls a day they say 50% of americans are on at least
three or four pills per day that only equates to 10% or less of all the pharmaceuticals
sold in the world so to get that clean on pharmaceutical meat is hard to get but then
you also mentioned the feed that they are they're feeding them genetically modified corn and soy
which a cow or these animals would never eat and so they're giving them the weight gainers the
steroids the antibiotics the unnatural food so people are thinking hey I'm on a carnivore
diet but yet most of the meat that they're probably eating isn't clean healthy meat so
you know like you said if you stop the processed food your body's gonna uh uh you know respond
amazingly but yet if you're still putting things that aren't clean into you you will eventually
you know it will come back in and and show you signs that you're actually poisoning yourself
and not giving it the body the nutrition it needs yeah yeah angeline angeline says could you speak
to food fear some when they love to eat healthy they struggle eating enough perfection eating
that makes eating happen less for from the stress around it being perfect
well angeline you are like your spot on we talked about this last night um in sweet freedom uh and
our motto is uh is um progress not perfection and to still to really enjoy your food like and
that one of the things I I say to people is that I don't know if they're past lives or
or future lives I don't know for sure but if there is such a thing I came to this incarnation
for the food I am a food lover my first business is called the food lovers workshop it hasn't
changed and with sweet freedom it's not about just ending all the joy that we actually experience
with our food and pleasure it's about making the best decisions with the resources that we have
the education that we have and just where we are so um when people will often say to me just
tell me what you eat just write it down tell me what you eat I'll follow that and and that's it and
I was like no no one no one's gonna very few people are gonna eat the way I eat um and it's not just
um because I I've actually taken decades to actually learn what I've learned and to eat
according to how actually what feels great for my body what feels good for my lifestyle
and the balance of what I actually enjoy as pleasurable food you know and nourishing
food it's not there's not just this kind of prescriptive way of actually approaching it so
food fear you can actually get to the point you write angeline where you study so much about food
that you don't want to eat anything like you're you're fearful when you're taking any bite of food
and if you study german new medicine that will actually create imbalance in your body in
fact um andy parker who um helped me set up sweet freedom did all the website you know
and the video he filmed the videos and did you know animations his partner georgia had a huge
stomach issues for years and when she started to look at german new medicine and to start
alleviating her fears around food and just started to tell herself you're safe this is safe to eat
her stomach issues went away just by doing that one thing she didn't change the way she was eating
she changed her mindset and the way she was thinking about food so it's about finding the
balance of doing the best you can with the resources that you have and being at peace with it
and finding this really kind of beautiful place of having a balance of i am nourishing myself
physically i'm nourishing myself mentally emotionally spiritually and i'm cutting out
the things that actually are toxic so many years ago i worked with a young man who
was diagnosed with glandular fever and chronic fatigue and um he uh he was overweight he was just
feeling terrible and his father who they used to hire me for speaking engagements in australia
he asked if i would meet with jordan and his fiancé at the time maria and when i did his
nutritional assessment looked at what he was eating i took three foods out but i also said to him i
said jordan what i see um is that everyone wants a piece of you and you're a really nice guy and you
have problems saying no to people so your father wants to take you to take over the family business
you actually want to you know build orphanages in africa um you know everyone wants a piece and
i'm just wondering is it easier to get sick than to say no and i obviously hit a nerve
because his fiancé almost fell off her chair and he was just like that was it and as soon as
he started to have a voice of what was you know really important to him to be able to say no
and a really respectful and loving way and to take care of his own needs he cut out
red wine chocolate and coffee for three months lost i think it was 14 kilos um and uh was feeling
much better and happier and fitter and this was long before when the body says no came out so
but the gabor mate's book is when the body says no the hidden determinants of stress
so what will happen is that if we create a lot of stress in our mind it will it will show physically
and that can happen by either us creating sickness within our body or it can actually
happen by because we're thinking negatively and and with low resonance we will choose foods
that resonate on a very low level that will then eventually make us sick to draw attention
to our body to tell us something in our life is not actually working if we're overthinking it and
just ignoring it earlier on you mentioned that the body protects itself by not processing
some of this processed food and stores it into fat so in instance for that person that just cut
out you know a few things and lost 14 kilos right away could that be dangerous because
if the body is processing all of these toxins and a rapid rate could that also be not so good if
you're not you know somehow you know eliminating all this toxic buildup that your body's now having
to process through the organs could that potentially be harmful as well and that's one of the things
why I'm really much more concerned about people doing this you know healthily than to do it just
fast to lose weight so Jordan didn't do it to actually lose weight he was doing it to actually
regain his energy so in the instance of coffee chocolate and red wine cutting those things out
of your body and starting to nourish yourself will not be highly problematic but depending on your
toxic load and what you know heavy metals or chemicals that you've actually been exposed to
it can actually you know create um it's it's symptoms of detox that can actually feel
very very um like you know scary or upsetting as they're being eliminated through the body
it can create more problems as it actually pushes things out but the process of cleansing
whether you do it slow or fast is still a good thing for the body and again it depends on the
the type of toxins that you have in your body and the toxic load that you're dealing with
we had earlier here we had a couple comments Joyce Kerr from our facebook says when I shop
I ask my body what is right for me my inner self lets me know and Angeline is the first
that I ever saw this she loves muscle testing we'd be in a grocery store and she'd pick something up
and ask herself and I'm like what are you doing and she's putting it and she's moving up and back
and forth and these I just thought it was quite strange until she explained that her body
is telling her whether one she even two brands which brand would be better for her of that same
product and some people are really in tune that way so maybe could you share a little
bit what you know about muscle testing yeah well I was actually teaching again that exact thing last
night so I was talking about I had the you know the frequency scale of emotions and was talking
about where that came from the source of that was Dr David Hawkins book power versus force the
hidden determinants of human behavior so he was a kinesiologist that worked for decades
doing that very thing muscle testing with large audiences so so we're talking over 25 years
hundreds of thousands of people where he would actually hold up two samples of sugar so artificial
sweetener and refined sugar he wouldn't tell people which was which he just hold it up and get the
audience to muscle test and consistently the audience would actually choose the thing that was
healthier or least less harmful he'd do it with an apple he'd have two apples that look the
same one would be organic one would be conventional and they would always test
stronger with the the organic apple so this is this is stuff that we have actually known
as we're mammal the problem is is that we've depended too much on our head to make these
decisions and when you're in your head to make all these decisions about what's good for our body
that's where we can be manipulated and confused and then you lose these natural
skills that we had and i i draw two kind of illustrations from that when i teach this concept
to people do you remember the old westerns where the cowboy would go up to the pond to get some
water and the horse would say no and then the the cowboy would drink the water and go blind
ah you know that kind of thing um that's a comical kind of analogy but animals are very
intuitive in knowing what they're meant to have and what they shouldn't have
and we've lost that ability so we were given a brain a heart and a gut you know we were given
many things many tools to actually um determine what's good for us and what's not good for us
i talked last night about the medicine man and woman who um they not only studied with their
medicine man and woman for decades but they also knew the people that they were dealing with
they had a relationship with the people that were their um patients or you know um the people they
were helping and one of the things they used to do that was it's there's a resurgence of it
actually happening now is they would take the person out into a biodiverse field and get the
person to actually walk towards the plant that resonated with them and what we're finding now
is that often if our body is working you know whole and unencumbered by you know the the busy
brain or the you know the brain that's being conditioned um and you just get into your
body and you're intuitive you will naturally be attracted to the plant that's actually
the one that's going to help heal the condition that you're dealing with
and there's there's so many examples of this but yes muscle testing is a great tool
it's scientifically validated it's there's nothing woo-woo about it um and uh if we actually start
to get quiet we start to listen to we all have a very innate intelligence within us
when i teach natures principle the consumption concept the philosophies that i teach
people especially natures principle and the consumption concept people are just like
their mind is blown the same way that when i first saw mesuramoto's work the messages from
water where he would put messages on water and they would have a certain thing my mind was just
kind of blown and i believe that our minds are blown by that because it it's just tapping
into a knowing of us when i teach natures principle on the consumption concept i got them as
downloads so i don't i believe they're genius but i don't take credit for them it's like having
a genius child that came through you i don't take credit for the child right but i i feel
on honor to actually mold in it in and um help its way to make into the world and that's how i
i feel about these philosophies but when people hear them it's kind of like this bell goes off
and they're like oh my goodness that makes so much sense and i'm like yes because that
knowledge is actually in you it's encoded in your dna and all this nutritional confusion
that comes about from going down to the micro level of things i believe is a design to keep us
confused people i'll reiterate i'll repeat myself people ate for thousands of years without dietician
scientists and nutritionists right because nature gives us the blueprint of how we're meant to eat
and it's not one way we live on a biodiverse planet i believe in a creator and a creator that
made us so so brilliant to survive in any kind of environment so you have people who are eating
primarily plant foods um or they will eat maybe in one area of the world like the inuits would
eat 80 of their diet with seal blubber right not exactly where i want to live live or eat but
our bodies are given this incredible intelligence to actually understand and know
our job is to deprogram really so and that one of the best ways to kind of
illustrate how we're so confused if you take a lawyer or solicitor who's cross-examining someone
on the witness stand and they drill down to a minute micro detail they can actually make a lie
look like the truth or truth look like a lie by going micro right but when you actually go macro
and you put that piece of information in the context of the whole the truth is revealed
so that's what's happening with nutritional information we are so geeking out and interested
in going into the micro to find out we're not understanding that there really is a much more
simple way of actually doing this by going macro and understanding how we're meant to eat
as the human species down in the micro is where they can manipulate us down in the
micro is where they can sell us a lot of stuff that is not only either not good for us or
we don't really need it we were we were designed to live synergistically with our planet
and it's it's way simpler than what a lot of people are making it
and I'm I'm fascinated to know because you know over the years I've actually worked with people
who are you know the bio hackers and you know being on the covers of magazines and fitness
magazines and things like that I've actually helped them clean up their health issues
because of all their you know the antics that they're using to try and create
health or longevity or you know defy defy the limits of the human body
and if they do figure it out and they've got it that's great but a lot of them I find you
literally have to be you know extremely wealthy to afford a lot of the lifestyles that these
bio hackers you know and you know they're they're pushing all kinds of supplements and
all kinds of hacking tools and technology when the reality is is what we need to do is stop poisoning
ourselves and just start nourishing ourselves Andrea from our facebook says but it is said
that blubber eaters are some of the healthiest people I don't know if they're the healthiest of
people I've heard that meat eaters say that carnivore people in carnivore diets they look
at those inuits they only blubber and then when they introduced them to process food they started
getting sicknesses they never had and I never had heard any study about if people just ate blubber
if they live to 120 and you know they were healthy people because I imagine if you only have you
know but healthy fats like how angeline said we're missing a lot of healthy fats they
taken that away they they said sugar was good fats are bad and I think they've convinced people to
do wrong things but if you're just on a blubber diet you're going to miss out on a lot of nutrients
that your body probably is craving so I can't imagine you'd be the healthiest person if you
didn't have some of the things that maybe the body may have needed so here's the thing
it wasn't that they the 80 of their diet was blubber so they did eat some plants and
certain things but it comes back to everything if anyone has read or studied Weston a price
you know he was a Canadian dentist who actually went around to traditional cultures he called
them primitive cultures I call them traditional and and he basically just documented the fact that
once people moved away from their traditional diets that's when they got sick and it wasn't
the introduction of vegetables to the you know the innuents it was as you said it was the introduction
of processed food in any culture across the globe they had these biodiverse diets so one is eating 80
percent blubber you know one's eating you know 50 coconuts or whatever you know and fish or something
the common denominator is that they were eating seasonally locally organic and as whole
you know to nature they were eating amounts of food in the context of what they would
actually find and source themselves in nature they weren't eating unnaturally and so as I said
the body is designed to be adaptive to survive in any environment and we can not just survive but
thrive in any environment as long as it's natural and we're eating things in context of what we
eat in nature so it wasn't you know the the innuents are is not a blue zone it's not like
they have this extreme longevity I personally think that if I had to only eat 80 percent of my diet
is as blubber it would feel like I was living to a hundred and hundred and twenty even though I
made it to 50 I would feel hellish but we don't have to make it complicated doesn't have to
be complicated the problem is now is sourcing natural food and eating natural eating seasonally
eating locally eating organically eating whole we've gone like the the solution is very simple
but doing that in a very complex processed world is not simple so I like to say that if it's
got an ingredients list on it it's consider it more of a warning label that we should be eating
more single ingredient food whatever that is and Andrea from our Facebook says I never heard that
about cashews she says are there other foods beside cashews that we should not be eating
due to toxins and I think what Sherry was mentioning about the cashews it comes it's
related to the poison ivy um the poison I think it's a poison ivy plant and it's that's
why some people say that it can be toxic if you you know you consume it without
doing certain things that maybe it may not be good for you but like even these single ingredients
like some people say kale like cows won't even eat kale because it's not good but yet they've
pushed kale where kale used to only be the pizza hut garnishes like in their buffet they also
used to have it and I think it was pizza hut in their buffets and that's what they did to decorate
and then all of a sudden they started to push kale and then you got this kale um you know kind of
fad when it's actually potentially not even good for us even though it's a single ingredient like
kale or cashews and you know maybe your thoughts on that and if there are other foods that
besides cashews that we should not be eating due to these toxins so um just a little
clarification once we actually get the cashews um like the ones that you get in the you know the
supermarket or say you get them at a you know a raw food supplier in their natural cashews
they're not highly toxic in once once they're actually you know processed it's a poison that's
released in actually getting the cashew out of the out of its its shell that's that's what's
toxic so um and my my reasoning behind that is is if the humans could not extract it without
releasing poisons maybe it wasn't suitable for human food but one of the things I will say
is that humans are highly adaptive so we have adapted to eat foods that we wouldn't necessarily
eat in nature in amounts in nature and so um so it's like the same with kale
it has oxalates in it but we're adaptive and we learned how to eat it by cooking it and processing
it um and and here's the thing like angeline you're saying kale makes me super sick it's
about listening to our body and that's the thing is a lot of people will say oh it's good for me
I will eat it even though they're experiencing um symptoms of sickness and illness okay so
this is where we've stopped listening to our body and we're trusting experts and
scientists to tell us what's good for us as opposed to really understanding what is meant for us
we weren't meant to eat kale raw in smoothies like I've I've made that mistake I you know I put
it through it didn't affect my body I didn't have a problem with oxalates like a lot of people do
some people are sensitive to it or not but um we just think if something's healthy more is
better um and eating something out of season like like blueberries I will say to people
how many blueberries would it take you to actually procure so pick and preserve so you
can have a couple blueberries in your smoothie every single day of the year well most people
would never go to that effort if they naturally had to do that in nature they would just eat
with the seasons of nature nature provides what we need when we need it in a natural environment
we can actually survive that way again with wheat how much wheat would you consume if you had to grow
the wheat thresh the wheat separate the husk from the germ and then grind the wheat
and eat you know and eat it that alone would limit your consumption you'd work off a lot
of energy doing that as well um but it moderates your consumption okay so because we have other
people providing and doing all this work and food and now mechanization to do it we're eating natural
foods even natural foods unnaturally in unnatural amounts we never would in nature now speaking
of the body being resilient and adaptable to what it's being put in the food is becoming more
toxic and processed and you know people are popping pills and all these things that are going on
but it yet the body is seems to be fighting back people aren't just dropping you know here and there
you know maybe their lifespans or maybe they're becoming sick or maybe they're becoming more
chronic pains maybe there's a lot of symptoms but it seems like somehow god built us resilient to
take whatever punishment that you know they're throwing at us and some people can even potentially
thrive through some of these toxic things and chemicals and steroids and whatever it is they're
taken but you know eventually this stuff will catch up to us if you're not you know trying to
eat clean and you know putting good nutritious foods into your body yeah I always say when you
push the boundaries of nature something's got to give and that you can have a sense of well-being
for a period of time because you're maybe cutting out certain toxins or you're giving your body some
kind of drug that gives you the illusion of health but again it depends on your genetics
and you're right Angeline we become so disconnected right that people when the body
is poisoned it knows it okay if if something is injected into your skin your body actually
knows when it's poisoned um if you know if a bug bites you and maybe you don't feel it you actually
your body knows when it's being poisoned the body knows a woman's body knows when she's pregnant
but because of that disconnection we have to go and get tested you know to to actually see
whether you know something is bad or good for us or whether you know we're experiencing a
natural biological function it is our disconnection that is at the root of you know a lot of the
problems that we're experiencing disconnection is the one of the major contributors to addiction
right it's not just disconnection from each other it's disconnection from our body and from
understanding and knowing what what it is right for us and what how we're meant to be eating
Have you heard of the term spellbinding? With respect to what?
So I guess it maybe is more towards pharmaceuticals but it could be with what Angeline said also
with forever forever chemicals so it seems like they take and the FDA approves different things
based on toxicity levels and they may have a little bit of mercury it might have a little
bit of aluminum it might have oh yeah but it at that level it's not toxic but when you start to
take pill after pill or forever chemical after forever chemical it starts to bind up into the
body where they don't test you know what these accumulative effects of all these different
products and the hair you know the shampoos that could have some of these stuff and then the foods
and then stuff that they're spraying in the air all of these things and pharmacia pharmaceutical
industry pharmacia they it's like they're sorcerers they're creating these spells
so every time you're taking these pills it's more of like this spellbinding that's happening
so maybe this is happening more than people are even willing to talk about?
Well it's definitely happening we are under threat in every single air, water,
land you know Teflon pans you know deodorants everything that we put on or in our body
that we're exposed to right now they're toxic versions and there's more toxic versions
than natural or healthy versions so absolutely there is an accumulative effect and that's when
I was talking about depending on your chemical load or your toxic load or your heavy metal load
the detoxing process does need to be managed depending on that so um so sometimes it can
store it sometimes it can eliminate it it just depends on what we're actually talking about
can you hold for one second? Yeah of course yeah yeah I'll just talk I'll talk to everybody
you do your thing. I have a four-year-old who's who's demanding my attention for a moment excuse me.
Yeah no problem um thanks everybody for joining here on our Facebook, YouTube,
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if you can um I think Angeline said that she was gonna join us she wanted to you know discuss
some things with Sherry so please feel free to jump on anytime you wish Angeline um you know
this is interesting talking about you know what our health and what we're putting into our bodies
you know they say that you know we're living longer than ever and we're healthier than ever
but yet you know you look around and you know pictures in the 60s or 70s on a beach everybody
was you know um relatively thin and fit and now you go to a beach you you know probably
like you know not can maybe not pick out some of the people that are healthy thin and and fit on
beaches because you know I think this this wheat belly this obesity epidemic even though
you know we may be living longer you know potentially we're living sick for longer
and yet that you know means more pills more profits for pharma companies but yet your quality of life
may go down even though you may live longer
absolutely can I go back to a point that you made about people saying oh we're there
just in such tiny amounts um when I was studying at university they were talking about using
nanotechnology back then so we're talking about the early 90s in our food and one of the things that
they um uh you know they would use the justification that they are so small these amounts that they
don't need to be put on the labels so one of the examples they would use was they could actually
use nanotechnology to make a mars bar a chocolate bar um in a convenience store which they call
milk bars in the outback not melt so you could have a store that didn't have air conditioning it was
really hot in there and a chocolate bar coated in this nanotechnology would not melt and I would
always say you know when people would use the justification it's in such small amounts it doesn't
really matter I said well if it didn't really matter and it didn't really make a difference
why use it you're using it because it is actually making a difference and it's it's again you're
pushing the boundaries of nature and I believe something's got to give so this whole way of
dealing with health by using nanotechnology that permeates the blood brain barrier I am not a
fan of I am not a fan of one we don't have a lot of long-term data on it because you know
one um how long have they actually been doing this to quality data how do we know
most of those studies if they have been done wouldn't necessarily be released to the public
because they don't want the public to know how much nanotechnology they're using in our food
you know they'll use titanium dioxide in half and half in cream and you know they'll use it in
in uh like nanotechnology and things like that that can actually permeate the you know the
gut lining well actually pasteurized homogenized milk can permeate the gut lining these small
amounts is a saying that small amounts don't make a difference is not a good argument because
they wouldn't be using it if it didn't make a difference
now what about the foods that don't seem to break down you have people that have had a
McDonald's cheeseburger and fries for 17 years and it looks the same I've seen people
take torches to Oreo cookies and they won't burn um you know it seems like you know the food is
becoming franken food and if this food potentially doesn't break down by time or um oxygen or whatever
it is that you know breaks down food is this stuff that people should be staying away from
absolutely it's what I call in return to food I'm trying to see if I can find the illustration
for it um I call it Star Trek food um it's food Jim but not as we know it okay um
there we go I don't know if it goes backwards there we go coming soon to a planet near you
right okay so um it isn't real food you know people say oh I grew up when it wasn't that bad
the food that we had in the 70s the McDonald's the french fries had three ingredients in it
today the McDonald's published list of ingredients in Australia when I first started you know
studying this uh well sorry exposing this would be the better word had 42 words in the ingredient
list just for the french fries a three course meal of chicken mint nuggets fries big mac
apple pie and a soft drink has over 600 words in the combined ingredient lists when I first
started doing this they changed the lists because the laws they are able to not add in
certain ingredients so that list that I just told you about for that three course meal doesn't
include the fact that the lettuce that's grown for the burgers is grown with chemical pesticides
synthetic fertilizers and once it's picked it's sprayed with a cocktail of 11 different
chemicals to preserve it none of those things make it onto the ingredient list that I just
told you about it doesn't include the fact that the burger that's been cooked on a stainless
steel grill tastes like it's on a char grill because of a flavor compound that can have over 400
ingredients in it and you as a consumer have no legal right to know what's in it because that
recipe is patented protected okay so when it gets to that state it is not food there is no
way you can call McDonald's food anymore and and literally you could I could do you know three
hours just discussing you know the problems with McDonald's foods alone but they're not the
only one they're using nanotechnology in our food they're using all kinds of frank and you know science
to actually create these things that are you know considered food and then they're laden with
these excitotoxins and chemicals and flavorings to trick the brain into eating something again as
I would say you'd never consume that if you saw how it was made and you had it without the
colorings and flavors and the excitotoxins in it you wouldn't touch it it would taste
disgusting it would look disgusting but they frank and food they manufacture it in a way to actually
make something that is not a natural taste like it is food so if it doesn't break down
it's not going to preserve your body like for meldehyde or maybe it will like for meldehyde
but you have to be dead to have it preserved. Lori yes from our facebook says what's these
frank and foods doing in our body well I mean it depends on the certain frank of food but
but essentially it's poisoning us now the different things will affect different organs and different
bodies and in different ways but their poisons make no mistake this is poisons is poisoning your
body and as we talked about before Jesse our bodies are highly resilient we were made
by our creator to survive and the fact that you can see people who are like 600 and 1000 pounds
who are actually still living you know eating a lot of what we call these frank and foods right
means that we were created to survive in an incredibly amazing way right so um
with me I I'm not a perfectionist I don't espouse perfect eating I pretty much the
80-20 rule right so 80 percent of my my diet is slow seasonal local organic and whole
but I still will you know occasionally have ice cream and you know I enjoy food I'd rather live
to 100 with chocolate than 120 without chocolate okay but what I don't want is to have poor quality
of life and so it's about finding the balance of finding pleasure in food and you can find it
in natural foods you don't have to have this this you know star trek food to have pleasure in fact
there's nothing you could offer me to you know to eat a mcdonald's meal like the last time I had
something from mcdonald's was oh hi Karen um I had french fries in 1996 on my way home from
chef's school I was teaching chefs you know cooking um one of the institutions in melbourne
and there was nothing open and I hadn't eaten um even though I was teaching cooking and uh um yeah
I had these french fries and I just remember the coating on my tongue and the aftertaste and going
I'm never touching this stuff again and at that time I hadn't done the depth of research that I
you know that I do have and know now um about what's actually in their so-called food um
I think I've lost I've lost the actual question you asked me I've gone on a bit
well I we I think we're talking about franken food and what's going on what it does to the body
but uh I wanted to yeah you mentioned chocolate and this is an interesting topic because
a lot of people love their chocolate um but I've been hearing about chocolate potentially
increases the stem cells so if you're actually eating real chocolate that isn't super processed
isn't sugar doesn't have all these in artificial sugars put into it isn't chocolate potentially
an actual a superfood if you're consuming it properly it can actually help heal you and
maybe get you living to 120 you know with chocolate if you actually you know we're consuming
the right chocolate yeah and and that is the thing um like you just said you you've pointed
it out there's chocolate there's fake chocolate or processed or the sugary chocolate you know
like anything in a supermarket by and large like a typical supermarket you're not going to
find decent chocolate there um but I will tell you um there is a I used to love Dick Taylor
chocolate made in Eureka California it's just getting really super expensive to bring into
Canada um and I recently found a chocolate here in Edmonton a woman um makes it called Dyad Chocolate
Dyad and her chocolate is fantastic and it is natural chocolate so here's the thing about
chocolate is I believe chocolate is God's way of saying he loves us and wants us to be happy
okay I'm definitely a believer of that but that's real chocolate right and anything in nature
that's hard to obtain means we're not meant to have large amounts of it so when I would um ask
children you know how to make a chocolate cake have you ever made a chocolate cake from scratch
and a lot of people will actually say oh you know I am I uh I made a cake the other day we
I said how'd you do it when we opened the box you know and we added in the water and the
eggs and I said no no no that's not making a chocolate cake from scratch I said first
you have to and I go take them through the process what is chocolate cake made of you know the original
recipe flour you know cacao wheat butter and I would take them in sugar and take them through
the process of making all of those things to the point processing it to the point where
you could actually make a chocolate cake I said and then how much you know if you had to grow
that wheat you know thresh the wheat separate it grind it then you had to get the sugar cane
or the sugar beets and dry it out and make the sugar and then you had to get the chocolate and
separate it from the cacao cow bean and grind it up how much would you eat of that cake would you
gobble it up in one bite or would you save or each little piece appreciating all the effort
and work that you went to it so and that's that's one of the things to consider with chocolate
is that it's it might be a superfoods but just because it's a superfood doesn't mean that
more is better right or that we're meant to consume large amounts of it nature tells us what to eat
and the quantities to eat it by how easily it's obtained in nature so that which is most abundant
we're meant to have most of harder to obtain in nature we're meant to have less of it and we're
given stronger physiological desires so we work harder for it to obtain it and if we cannot get
it in nature not only do we not need it it's harmful to the body in the planet and unfortunately
it's that third area of eating things that we could never attain in nature that most people are getting
their 80% of what they're consuming in some cases 100% of what they're consuming is foods that one
we could never get in nature and in amounts we'd never source ourselves in nature apache
here's 555 from our rumble says is it true that dark cocoa chocolate health food store versions
of chocolate can help chelate metals out i haven't heard about the metals i did hear about the stem
cells but have you heard that dark chocolate can help remove metals out of the body i that i don't
know i i can't comment either way to actually know um if it can chelate or um metals out or if
it um the stem cells things and and in fairness you know to to help people understand like where
i stand with certain things i've actually i i dig into the research occasionally now
but by and large my my nutrition science you know scientism geeking out days has ended
and i'm much more interested in understanding just a natural relationship and natural way of
eating with food and when you actually start to understand that the philosophical approach
with those philosophies like natures principle and consumption concept honestly um it's i'll
tell you a little funny story um one of my girlfriends uh who i was she'd written a book
she's one of my oldest friends um we've been friends for 31 years she've written a book called
sweet every single recipe in it had refined sugar in it it was a international best seller
dessert cookbook and um and at the same time i was promoting sweet freedom
which is helping people get off of sugar so get this we're um she was doing a segment in martha
stewart's studio in new york and she asked me to join her so um we uh we were in the studio
and she introduced me to martha stewart and uh she introduced me as someone helps get people
off sugar and martha stewart said to me she said oh my grandbabies are actually sugar-free babies
she said my daughter is so passionate about it she won't even allow the children to come
into the studio on baking days um so they're totally uh you know sugar-free and i remember
with helen one time uh i was talking about something related to sugar and she says oh
my goodness she said i just find talking about nutrition all that kind of stuff so boring
and this is the woman who wrote the the book on sweet and one time i was telling her how much
i love this bon soy soy milk um which was really it's the only soy milk in the world um that i
actually enjoy and it's delicious and tea and she said oh i just find it so sweet and i said
oh i just find it so boring when you talk about nutrition but i found it i said i said i
found it really amusing that the woman who wrote the book sweet um with every single recipe
having refined sugar is is being judgmental about the soy milk that i enjoy anyway it's kind
of a funny story but the reason i was telling it i just just just wanted to say that reminds me of
when you have people like bill gates that won't get any of the injections to those kids we have
people like you know some of these people that won't give them technology won't give them
cell phones won't give them these things but yet they make their fortunes off of the technology
but they protect their own families and their kids from stuff they're making money off of so i
just wanted to say that before you i hope you remember what you were going to say and just
i'll tell you there are very wealthy cattle farmers here in alberta who send their animals to
slaughter um and won't eat those animals they have a certain amount of animals that they will
raise without drugs without you know eating a natural diet and they'll keep that for the
family and they won't eat the animals that they raise for mass agriculture to send to slaughter
because of the drugs or even feedlots and the feedlots so what they do is even they'll send
their animals to the feedlots now they'll feed them all the shit food that will genetically
modify corn and soy and things to fatten them up they inject them they do all these things
and they won't eat any of the the meat that comes from any of the stores because
now it's no longer that same cow that they raised oh look good alberta beef it's alberta beef but
what happened after they pasture raised it well and some will not even eat you know they won't
even break down the the animals that are designated for slaughter are raised and fed right from
the beginning differently in their given drugs and the animals that they keep and eat for
themselves have no vaccinations no drugs they're eating a natural diet they're healthy animals
so um so it happens everywhere um you know and and here's here's something because I've been told
by many different people including people who have lived on the colonies that you know people
love food from the Hutterites not realizing that they will do the same they will raise animals
and vegetables for themselves and what they actually raise and sell to the public is different
than what they keep to themselves and and here's one of the things that in in defense
of people who do this most people are not willing to actually invest in their food to
reflect the cost of what it takes to produce that that animal or or those vegetables and so they
are filling in you know uh demand in the market for uneducated people who just want cheap food
and when you um have cheap food you get what you pay for and so this is where my highest value
you know as far as my health is is sourcing the cleanest food that I possibly can and I remember
one time I had a client who um he was I was doing a lifestyle makeover for him he was morbidly
obese and had diabetes and you could see his his feet were starting to you know
were the in the pre stages of gangrene and he would eat like two or three of the
family size lint bars each night um you know before bed and I remember one time
he said we we did the shopping trip so I when I would do lifestyle makeovers with clients we
I take them shopping in the supermarket and show them you know educate going through the
supermarket and then I take them to a whole foods type market and do the shopping for their
food and this guy who has a multimillion dollar home in point gray overlooking you know the Vancouver
harbor and the mountains and has a laneway house and a pool and all that he was really really angry
when we were doing the shopping trip and it wasn't until we got the groceries to his home
when we were getting it out and I was like what's going on and he's like you you bought a
$6 cucumber you know that's insane that you're spending $6 on a cucumber and I was like
I was like I was shopping for you and and you know your health um you know he was saying to me
he said if you don't you know um pay more attention to the prices of food you're not
going to be able to buy this house that you want to buy or something like that and I was like
dude you spend $70,000 to go on a week cruise you're spending like 50 bucks a week on chocolate
and you have an issue with the $6 cucumber I heard him on the phone I I'm not kidding you
at least 20 times complaining to people about this chef who spent $6 on a cucumber
and you know this is so there's kind of this messed up relationship that people can have
with with money and food when in reality um in nature food and shelter you know and safety
maslow's hierarchy you know pyramid that was our primary you know thing that we we took care of
now that those things can be taken care of you know we don't have to build our own houses
we don't have to source our own food we've lost the significance and the importance of actually you
know um making sure that it is a very significant priority for us to actually source and take care of
and and like you know a lot of people very concerned about this nanotechnology and toxins
that were being shot into the arm um unwittingly going through drive-thrus and ingesting
nanotechnology you know and chemicals and heavy metals you know and so we have to really start
to question things step back and start to protect ourselves
aromas from our rumble channel says where do you stand on chlorella and spirulina
yeah so um it's again it's one of those things that would you actually source this and use
this in nature if you did possibly it would be medicinal for me personally when i take those
things i have massive um stomach cramping it doesn't resonate with my body so i'm not a you
know personal fan of it and one of the things i will say about supplements is that people are
taking them not understanding one how they're made or long-term you know effects on the body
and when we had medicines or we had you know like herbs and and things that were you know
botanicals that were made for medicines they were made for when we were sick right they weren't
made necessarily to have 365 days a year just like there's no food what food do we know that
grows 365 days a year that we source from the ground we don't we were meant to have things
seasonally you know that provided certain things that we needed at certain times and that's
the same with any supplement and particularly if it's very hard to actually find or source or create
the more complex it is to actually find source or create the less you should have the more research
you should do it and the more you should really be in tune to how it actually um resonates with
your body what about drinking a little bit of apple cider vinegar every day putting a little
bit on the salad maybe drinking some baking soda um you know in your water you know have you you
know thought about you know these things and you know what does it actually do to the body if you're
doing that daily yeah so i and i'm a big fan of like there's very few things that i will do
daily right so maybe some lemon water which alkalizes the water which is the same thing
that baking soda does again there's there's a lot of different things that that can go into
what you just said so number one you want to get natural baking soda there's synthetic you know
man-made baking soda and then there's baking soda that you can actually get from the earth
and they have two different very effects on the body so i use the almond hammer for cleaning
you know in my house but i wouldn't put it in my body wouldn't put it in the bath to soak in
but the natural baking soda you know um a pinch in your water especially if you're experiencing
symptoms of acidity can actually be helpful um Karen and mcdonald knows a way a lot
way more than i do about baking soda and she uses it in lots of medicinal
applications but apple cider vinegar i'm i use it for my dressings but again i don't consume it
every day and here's the thing how much would you concern as or consume of apple cider vinegar
if you had to grow the apples and create the vinegar yourself okay a lot of those things people would
just um they would consume um you know seasonally or they would have in small amounts they wouldn't
be drinking it every single day and the other thing i keep bringing people back to when they're
trying to kind of get these little tricks or hacks they're good for when we're sick or we
have problems and and admittedly you know we're under attack from all areas so we're tend to be more
sick more than offer or have imbalance more often than not but the biggest thing we need to stop
doing is poisoning ourselves so that we don't need these things keep coming back lord lorya says
what about colloidal silver and andrea says thoughts on kefir milk water yeah okay so let's
start with colloidal silver one um you can actually extract that naturally in nature you can
actually get colloidal silver without you know having to have very complex implement nano silver
i'm not a fan of like again i just think what does nature actually make nano um and what are
the applications for it i yeah i avoid anything that has the nano silver in it because we
do not understand if i'll be really simple as for my beliefs if god wanted us to have nano
technology he would have given us nano technology right nano technology only happens because of
laboratories and very complex processes and i just avoid anything like that i don't care what
science or research you can actually show me i believe what our crater actually gave and meant
for us is far superior than what man can actually create in a laboratory and more often than not
if they've created something in a laboratory it might solve one problem but it usually creates
several others um so that's kind of the piece natural colloidal silver and again medicinally
i don't it's not something that i would have or drink every day um if i had cancer i might
consider you know an application you know consider it as part of a you know a protocol but i don't
have cancer in in an imbalance that i know of right now so not not applicable but i have
used it for things like a sty in the eye um where um you know a guest was staying with me and they had
a sty sprayed colloidal silver literally the next day it was you know it was gone so it does have
you know amazing applications just like cds chlorine dioxide solution um things like that
they're not easily made in nature but when you're sick they're more um natural versions of
things that can actually have healing properties so um there was the key for water and milk again
fermentation was used traditionally and it could actually help to have to create balance in the
body but um one of the things i'm very conscious of is to not have lots of different fermented
foods 365 days a year to give your body a break from fermentation um of which the apple
cider vinegar if it's naturally made it's naturally fermented you know um but most of the you know the
vinegars that we see on the shelves and you know the kind of the big brand names of apple cider
vinegar um are chemically generated now so i don't trust them i'd only you know like fill
singers is probably a large label that i trust but braggs was bought out by um katie perry and
yeah and i don't i wouldn't trust that and they made a deal with bill gates appeal on
you know the the braggs the apple cider vinegar or whatever but um lory s says and this is an
interesting question how do they make these things nano size and we talked earlier about
processing food processing sugar processing things so they can take something and isn't
making it nano size just processing it more to get it down to that little size well so that
nano size if i've got actually two hairs here one hair so nano is one 14 000th of that the size of
a human hair okay one 14 000 so it's something you can actually see with the eye so how they
actually do it i'm not privy to the those processes but what i do know is you could never actually do
that make that in nature and so i just avoid it now um you know i i'm i'm of the age now where i'm
basically a grumpy old woman when it comes to you know nutritional um you know uh trendy trends
and things like that i'm just like i'm i'm going old school i'm trusting our creator over anything
that's created in a lab yeah uh taffy says i have a question for sherry for the front
part of your hair loss is it thinning my hair i'm not sure if she's talking about herself if
her hair is thinning or yeah i'm not sure i don't you know quite uh
um it and then if you can uh qualify your question i'm happy to answer it
now what about chewing food you know how much can that be beneficial if people
ate a little bit differently than maybe chewed their food a little bit more instead of scarfing
it down could potentially something as simple as chewing your food better have a beneficial effect
on your health absolutely yeah so um the more work you do up here the less work your gut has to
has to actually deal with and the more complex your food is um the you know the more work
your body has to do to actually deal with and eliminate it and i think someone kind of alluded
to it when the body doesn't know what to do with something it will actually store
something so um chewing is is absolutely a good thing you know i had a young fellow
with this over for dinner the other night with his family and he literally ate a chicken breast
in three bites and i said i said to him sweetie you know your body's meant to actually
chew that food and and you're gonna have to use a lot more um gastric juices to actually
break that food down if you don't chew it so the more work you do up here the less work your gut
does and the less your body's going to happen with it and then i just keep going back to
natural and traditional cultures where they had the meal they sat around they were thoughtful
they weren't eating large amounts of food and they were usually pretty hungry because they
were working hard and so there was much more of this consciousness around what they were eating
and so they were chewing our food right now a lot of the food that we're eating we're
eating recreationally um we're from the most part people aren't eating for true nutrition
but when you do chew your food you break the food down it's you know you start to digest food in
your mouth your mouth actually releases um juices that actually start to to break the food down
and as you chew more it breaks it down and it creates less stress on your gut for processing
and jlene told me something i thought was fascinating that if you chew gum after you eat
you're continually chewing and producing those stomach acids you're telling your body to continue
on and right now you have to be very careful of what gum you actually buy because most gum is
made with synthetic toxins and poisons but there is actually still gum out there that you can
find what's your thoughts on after you're done you know maybe after you're done eating going for a
walk to help process maybe chew some gum while you're walking like is these some simple things
that you could do to help your health a walk is great i i don't chew any gum i don't recommend
any gum even the kind of the healthy gums like angeline said you're you're sending signals
to your body you know um that it's not actually a food it's it's a recreational activity
that we do with with our um our mouth right so it's uh yeah i'm i'm just not a fan of gum at all
and i think that if you're eating properly um that the digester will take care of itself
i'm not into tricks and hacks to to make the body digest especially something that we never
have eaten traditionally andrea says is it safe to assume you don't take supplements
so i'm super super fussy about supplements uh i do take one supplement pretty consistently
and that's true hopes in power plus um and it's one of the reasons is the mineral content of our food
is so deficient uh prior to coming to alberta when i could shop year round seasonally at farmers
market and find a good variety of organically grown fresh food i didn't really need supplements
i never i rarely ever took them only ever took them for medicinal reasons but when i came to alberta
and trying to actually you know source organic locally sourced food year round became more
problematic i did notice a difference in the mineral um content of my food and and i knew
i needed more so it's it's the one i i'm so pedantic about them i started my own supplement label
called living immunity when covid's you know hit and i knew my speaking career was dead as i knew
it i thought well i can help people build their immune system and and develop a you know a supplement
line um and i had issues with the supply chain and ethics around you know getting the quality
that i actually wanted so i i shut that all down i spent you know i spent massive amounts of my
resources and time to develop that and because of the ethical supply chain issues i shut it all down
okay um so i believe supplementation is to supplement what we're already having i also
believe that if we get good quality food we don't actually need a lot um to nourish us but getting
good quality food can and consistently year round in certain areas of the world can be very very tricky
so that's really the only supplement that i recommend people and especially when people are going
through the sweet freedom program we're trying to get off a sugar one of the things that sugar
does is it depletes minerals and nutrients from body big time like big time sugars that you know
a mineral stripper um and a nutrient stripper from the body and then what that does is it
also creates this imbalance with us that makes it really harder to have the physiological strength
not to mention the mental strength to to actually give up sugar and i found that
that mineral supplement is one of the best qualities and i know like i know viscerally
it's made a huge difference in my body so but just taking supplements willy nilly and you
know i'd never buy anyone's in this you know any supplements in the supermarket um the true
hope is an alberta success story of true hope and avina originals are two supplement companies
that were started in alberta by family members who are trying to heal their family members
so they didn't start these companies to make a lot of money they it came out of you know trying
to heal their family members and then they shared it with other people and they developed
more products to actually heal my my big thing though is trying to get the basics right
in the foundation right so you need very little supplementation or farmers i i have zero
pharmaceutical products the last time i was prescribed pharmaceutical products was
i had a doctor do a minor surgery to remove a sebaceous cyst on my back and he did a but
he butchered it did a horrible job and my back blew up was infected and um they gave me a
a round of antibiotics i i think i took three days worth and stopped and they gave me painkillers
that i never touched um and that was probably i think around 2003 maybe 2002 2003 and i haven't
touched a pharmaceutical product since um because we don't need them um maybe you know if i was
having surgery if i'd lost an arm or was in a severe accident i'd want the morphine i'd want
the you know the painkillers or you know what it took to anesthetize me so they could you know
perform a surgery but everything that our body needs to heal i believe we have it in nature
we absolutely have it in nature and again i'll just give a shout out to Karen Lucic McDonald who
who was in the the allopathic world and you know um she was a nurse and um she's
you know since Lyft but and has so many um modalities and and ways of helping people heal
that you know that are natural or now that she's moving into other things like frequency that's um
that's frequencies part of nature you know so the fact that they're starting to use it now is
a cool thing yeah and we've had we've had David Steven on our show Karen says true hope
and power plus is amazing and David Stevens on tour now with Sean Buckley we had him on the show
you have a bunch of times to explain what's going on with him and the things that were going on with
his case and you know he talked a little bit about his uh supplements um you mentioned frequencies
now can they be used to heal and to harm and are we being bombarded with a lot of
harmful frequencies does that mean we should be trying to counter that with healing frequencies
or how can we protect ourselves best from all of the harmful frequencies when it comes to these
towers and wi-fi and all the different things that were being bombarded with these days
yeah i'm i'm definitely not an expert on it but i will tell you i am very sensitive to it so
it's one of the reasons i don't live in the city i as soon as 5g came in um i could feel it
in every fiber of my being that this was not good i remember the first time i was in the city
and the 5g towers were installed i fainted and i'm not a fainter i'm definitely not like i've
got a you know castor and stomach all that kind of stuff and and i just could feel it
and when i lived in the city i was often sick no matter how well i took care of myself i was
sick and now i've come out to the country and since being out here i have not been sick once
right like not not like i was in the city for sure i've never had anything um that's that's
taken me out whereas that was consistently happening post 5g not before it um uh with the
exception i did live in a house where there were molds and there was there was an issue there
that was actually um yeah i was getting sick but um yes absolutely there's a friend of mine
Olga sheen wrote a great book called emf off she is a emf refugee she lives in france now
she had a brain tumor um that she attributes to um uh cell phone towers and cell phones and
that was actually pre 5g but um she definitely cannot handle it so and again caron's caron's
a great resource around the the frequency thing there's music you know we can stop listening
to the the music that took us away from the healing frequencies uh nature getting out into
nature with the animals you know um frogs the birds you know everything they they create
healing frequencies for us um so getting out there that's why people feel good it's not just
their um gases that you know forests actually release that make us feel good that's you
know one of the reasons we feel good when we go out into the the mountains and and the the
forests so it's great to hopefully if you can have your house surrounded by trees that's a good
thing as far as protection there's lots of things you can do i sleep with a silver hoodie on at night
i don't have wi-fi on um during the night uh i had a ari's tech um little uh square thing
forgotten the name of it i i lost that about two weeks ago can't seem to find it but um and
and turn wi-fi off and um how i do have like baking soda baths you know occasionally to kind of help
with the detoxing process and epsom salts and there's lots of things that we can actually do
yeah and yes i've definitely heard of Sabrina Wallace she's like yeah way beyond my pay scale
but i've heard about her and you know and here's the thing we're under threat we're
in the process of going through a spiritual war um and they're throwing all kinds of weapons
at us you know i just think it's a marvel that we're still all surviving and standing and you
know some of us are even thriving despite it it just shows you how we were designed to actually
um to to survive okay so um the the fact that we're still going the fact that you know through
everything in the last you know a few years you're still running this show consistently
you know um and you're getting truth out there uh is you know it's testimony to the human spirit
the fact that we're still surviving all of the weapons that they're throwing at us from the
sky the air the water you know the frequency thing um i the mantra that's kept me saying through all of
this is love wins good wins god wins and if god wins we all win and that i when this first all happened
jesse i was in a lot of fear when i came to elberta to take care of my parents i had visions of
you know rachel notley coming to the door with her goons and the force vaccinating
you know my parents and i who who didn't want it and with several stints in the hospital where people
were adversarial and i do feel we had a couple times psychopathic doctors who were trying to kill
my parents um pulling them from hospitals protecting them a lot of my time was spent in fear and
when my mother passed the night of her passing so she passed in the morning about 5 30 and that
night we had an agreement that if there is a way of coming back to let the other person know
that there's something in the afterlife or we're able to do that we had an agreement we were going
to do that and the night that she passed my mom was my person on the planet like you know i
i just i loved and loved her with every breath and fire i didn't just love her i liked her she
was funny and she was smart and she was wise and she was kind and she was cute um so when she first
took the antibiotic in 2016 we almost lost her because she went into heart kidney and live
liver failure she had the fluoroquinolone poisoning from an antibiotic i remember in
2016 thinking i don't know if i want to live without my mom on this planet and looking after
her in the last few years of her life and seeing her deteriorate and her quality of life go down
i knew that when she passed it would be a huge relief for her and i truly believe the reason
she stayed alive as long as she could was for us for her family that she knew how much
you know we loved her and she wanted to be there for us for us but on that night
that she passed when i would have only expected myself to be consumed and overwhelmed with grief
to the point of wanting to medicate myself instead as just before i was drifting off to sleep
i was literally deluged with the most incredible incredible waves of forgiveness of love of joy
and i could actually see my life i could see myself living in the country i could see having
my art studio and producing my art and i could see having great love in my life all these wonderful
amazing things and just the sense of feeling and forgiveness and i thought that's my mom
like she embodied all of that and that was her hopes for me that i would do that so here i am
just over a year later i'm living in the country in my house i've got the deer that come through
i have little willow that i take care of and i house since she was a month old
i help care for her and she's four now i gave my first solo art exhibition this month
on the 11th had had my opening i've got a six month showing of my art i'm back doing my work
with sweet freedom and i'm forgiving a lot of people and a lot of things that i never could
have conceived up for that experience i've never had anything like that before or after so
i don't know but if there is such a thing i i believe that was my mom's kind of final
gift to me to help me see how life could be but one of the biggest things i took away from it
after that and how i'm living now is with a lot less fear so yeah they're coming at us
you know they're trying to poison us they're trying to get us to sell out sell our soul
go against what we know is right for our body and you know our minds our hearts and our souls
um and they can do a lot of that based out of fear so as much as we have a compromised food system
we also have this incredible body that our creator gave us that can survive a lot of things
if we just stop poisoning it we start nourishing it mentally emotionally spiritually as well as
the physically and if we keep connected to one another keep connected to what's really important
live by our values food is just one part of being human it's a big part but it's just one part of
being human okay and and we can actually set ourselves free by having a loving healthy kind
positive and up building relationship with food and just seeking out that which nourishes
energizes and protects us and that's why i call it sweet freedom it's not about deprivation
it is about joy it is about love and it is about pleasure and it's you know that this book's out
of print so i'm not promoting it but return to food how going back is the way forward that is the
key just return to eating real food and i promise you just that simple act will change your life
and so the things that you want to do you had in the intro of your show you talked about you
know a new world with a brighter tomorrow right in order to do that we need to get clean we need
to break free from what i call the enemy's diet the enemy is trying to make a sick dumb weaken us
you know and if we can just get rid of that and we start eating what our creator wanted for us so
that we have strength we have mental clarity we sleep better we wake up better we're happier
we have even moods that's victory that's freedom and and that's you know basically the the legacy
that i want to leave and and based on the vision that my mother gave me i believe in the gift you
know of being able to live without without fear that's how we win right that's how we
actually obtain real freedom no weapon formed by man shall prosper unless we allow it and
do you think if we stopped being poisoned mind body and spirit you know we stopped all of the
toxins the poisonings the freak all of this stuff do you think that this earth could live without
being sick do you think being sick is a byproduct of being poisoned and we've just
been brainwashed into thinking that someone sneezing is going to make you sick opposed to
all of the poisons that we are being bombarded with absolutely jesse our bodies and our planet
are designed for us to heal and thrive i believe we have an enemy that wants to make us sick
weaken us and dumb us down and they have actually lured us using our own natural survival mechanisms
the desire for sugars oil salts and fats in nature that was great for us in nature in the
supermarket it works against us and so we have everything we need we just have to stop the
poisoning and our bodies can heal and thrive in amazing ways come here one second this is
come here baba yes darling okay i'll get you some more food in a little bit this is uh willow
she's my um she's my my biggest greatest joy in the world that's jesse you want to say hi to jesse
she's shy hey he's saying hello to you
yeah so she's she's my miracle i never thought i'd have someone in my life i wasn't able to
have children and so um i met someone online when she was a month old and he said you may
not want to date me i'm taking custody of my great niece next week and um i said can i help
we never ended up dating but now i get to take care of willow every oh not again not again
oh okay yeah yeah okay we'll take care of that okay baba i'm gonna feed you in a little bit
you go when i gotta have a little bit of water and i'll come take care of you okay okay well we'll
definitely wrap up here you know shortly i i wanted to ask you about i wanted to ask you
about salt so there's big war on salt telling people stop seeing so much salt salt's causing you
these health issues and i get that people shouldn't be eating iodinized table salt but isn't salt
we're electrical beings a good quality healthy salt is imperative for the body to get some of
these minerals that we're being deficient in some people are taking seamos for some of these minerals
you know and you know are these things you know like people should be consuming salt
regularly but the right salt not the iodinized table poison table salt right yeah so again
remember when i talked about the lethal recipe refined sugars oil salts grains chemicals
so if you look at how they process salt they remove all the minerals and then they repurpose
them and they sell them right okay to supplement companies um so again when you process anything
in nature and you remove macro micronutrients you remove what actually nourishes energize
and protects us salt the oceans are filled with salt our bodies you know require salt to live
and i just saw a study today that was talking about how consistently when people ate more
than the recommended amount of salt that they actually thrived and had less disease so think
about what they're trying to do is they're telling us salt is bad the truth is is yes refined salt
is bad for us but natural salt your body will tell you when you have too much salt right if you
put a teaspoon of salt on your cereal you couldn't eat it could you jessie not that you're
cereal but do you know what i mean if you put a teaspoon of salt on your meal it'd be grotesque
but what they can do now is they could have the equivalent of two teaspoons of salt in a breakfast
cereal and it doesn't even taste salty that sodium is a problem and it will cause health issues it's
a highly refined version of something in nature that that can heal us right so it's the same
thing it's universally we just go back and understand how we how we've eaten traditionally
we'll be fine instead of getting caught up in this you know having to question everything it's and
usually if if they've had a big campaign about it if like fat is bad or salt is bad you can be sure
that there's you know there's an industry reason behind it and they've got something to sell
and one of the things that the study that i was listening to i didn't actually go and read in
depth but they were saying that um uh when they removed like salt from people's diets
it affected their blood pressure and so then they needed blood pressure meds right so whereas the
people that were consuming more than the recommended daily intake of salt natural salts they had
perfectly fine blood pressure you see nature the Aristotle said nature does nothing uselessly
nothing right but when man gets involved and tries to manipulate it and change it
that's when we get in trouble and as i said before when you push the boundaries of nature
something's got to give when man wants to play god they usually f it up for everybody else it
seems like that's the twilight zone that we've been living in so angeline and i go and get
natural spring water we drive the hour we collect a whole bunch of spring water
and we drink it right from the earth we don't filter it we don't boil it you know we find
some real good places and that's what we've been drinking for years in years now now there's people
out there that can't afford to get you know water you they still have to drink tap water
maybe they can't afford organic you know food they can't afford some of these things that maybe
they should or you know they're unlimited budgets and you know whatever that is if they and i think
you mentioned it earlier if they maybe talk to their water and said i know this is tap water
but you're going to clean and you're going to nourish me and this is going to be healthy water
if they had their food that maybe isn't organic i know this is organic but you know talk to source
or you know pray into the food that you people used to you know even sometimes hold hands and pray
before the meal together and bless the food and if people maybe can't afford some of these things
that maybe are better for them than what their you know their their choices are right now
could they do simple things like that to maybe make it more nutritious or healthier or you know
for for themselves if they were to do things like that i i believe in giving thanks i believe in
praying for over our food and things like that whether it has the the ability to transmute you
know the um the poisons you know a typical sample of tap water can have over 32 pharmaceutical
drugs in it not to mention the fluoride if you're living in edmonton you know and all the different
chemicals like there are tons so i will say one thing is we have to think differently about
our shopping dollar um whereas people will buy you know for the the cost of one soft drink
you know kombucha or you know like or a red bull or something like that you can get
uh you know 10 liters of spring water like from from a company so it's not
it's not that we can't afford it like i would if i was in the situation and i'll tell you
when i first came to albert i was feeding myself and my parents and occasionally willow
on 150 dollars a week now this is less than five years later uh i struggle to feed myself
on 150 dollars a week so i understand how expensive things are but if push came to shove and now my
food budget went up another 50 percent or something i would just eat less food um i would still be buying
my water or i would be driving like you guys do i used to do that in vancouver um when i was in
vancouver i found two sources of springs that i would get the water and i didn't filter it or
anything as well um uh yeah so i would be practicing hard hat uh yeah intermittent fasting
i'd i'd have fasting days like if you want to take your budget food budget um and divide it
you know by one seventh take one day off of eating you're not only going to save money
but you're actually going to um uh you know your body's actually going to really thank you
because you're giving your body a break especially if you're eating processed food
start to rethink your dollar if you're buying a bag of chips you know once a week or you're
buying a pizza once a week or you're buying an alcoholic drink once a week that alone cutting
that out will help your health but if you spent that money on spring water you know and and buying
some more natural or organic food you can actually afford it it's just what you can
afford is to continue to eat the same way like if you're eating one way and it's highly
processed and you just switched to organic you know to actually just switch it like that
then it becomes cost prohibitive um but going back to what you were talking about transmuting
you know poisonous food to unpoisonous food um through prayer and through intention
well it can't hurt i still like i give thanks for every meal i believe that's a really
important thing to do to know to tap into gratitude and abundance for for what's actually
happening um to the body um but i also believe that we experience consequences of our choices
okay so if you're going to eat something knowingly and poison you know poison um your body
whether that's alcohol or um you know you know takeout meal or something like that
there are certain limits to what your body can actually transmute or um process effectively
so i would just prefer to to make different and better choices and i'm not saying you have to make
all these choices next week it is a process when i take people through an eight week program i
tell them this is an eight week program but you have lifetime access to it because i know
that very few people turn their life around in eight weeks permanently you come back time and time
again because just like an a a it's not like you go to eight meetings and you're cured it you never
have an issue with alcohol you know alcohol again um with food if you've spent decades learning
how to eat a certain way or being indoctrinated to eat in a certain way it's going to take
time to actually undo that and depending on how trauma bonded you are to food you know or
how you know stress bonded you are to food um how deep the neural pathways and the connections you
have to certain foods that are toxic that you're using to numb yourself it's the process is is
different for each person um yeah okay i put your link into the comments here um for your
channel your website uh another website youtube channel and another youtube channel maybe tell
us what people can find there what they can find on your program how they can reach out to you if they
you know had any questions um maybe just tell us a little bit about you and your links thank you
jessie and um this is really generous of you so the cd uh children's health defense canada i did
over 120 interviews with doctors scientists and nurses you know victims of the mandates
on behalf of children's health defense sherrystrong.com is um where you go if you wanted to if you're
looking at having me speak at an event and sweet freedom life is really where you go if you're
wanting more information about how to beat sugar and junk food addiction um and that way
eight week online program goes through a process of where we give you a seven day eat less sugar
challenge where we get you to reduce your refined sugar consumption and start to have more natural
sugar consumption and nourish yourself through that and we use that to start to get you ready to
learn the recipes and all the different things to give up sugar we do a 21 day challenge five
weeks into the program and the first four weeks is about getting you ready mentally
emotionally spiritually so you can actually give up sugar and junk food so that's sweet
freedom life and we work um on the on the different philosophies and concepts that have
developed that have helped literally tens of thousands of people people over the years to
help give up sugar and beat sugar addiction and then the um sweet freedom youtube channel
my personal youtube channel are more videos that give advice and recipes uh along those lines
okay any final thoughts um positive words of inspiration anything that you wanted to
leave people off here with and i'm assuming we talked about everything maybe you want to talk
about here today but you we certainly covered a lot more ground than i'm normally given the
opportunity to talk about jesse so i'm incredibly grateful um yeah so i think uh we have a live
event coming up on june 8th that tangled roots in Beaumont so um i do a one day event um that people
literally you know will say that it's life changing in the breath of fresh air and
and i think the reason why they say that and and that kind of the closing bit of advice
that i would actually like to leave for people is that we can we can make all these choices
out of fear or we can make it out of love and when we're in fear we tend to not make the most
powerful choices but when we start to make these choices out of love you know enjoy and for for
the kind of the more empowering high higher frequency reasons for making the choices the
process is not only more enjoyable it's easier but the ability to sustain and stick to something
when it's not a hack but it's just a way of how i do life it's not a diet this is just how i live
it becomes an incredibly satisfying process a joyful process and when you do this um it carries
over into other areas of your life you start to become fearless in other areas you start to
become more joyful and more loving and in other areas of your life and if you take it through
this process i believe the the second book that i'm writing um uh is called how god wants us to eat
and i believe that if you are a loving father creator it's not about judgment about eat this
don't eat this it's like i want you to eat this because it's going to make you happy truly happy
it's going to make you healthy it's going to make you strong it's going to make you smart
it's going to make you feel good inside and out and i think if we start to eat from that place
wow watch out we're going to be super powerful and you can't put a price tag on your health you
know it's interesting how people can spend five dollars on a starbucks or fifty dollars on a
bottle of wine but they can't spend six dollars on a cucumber right like it's you know it's
bizarre the way and you know but you think that when you're coming to your health
that's where you should actually invest in yourself because if you are healthy
then you're going to be a lot happier overall and the rest of the facets of your life so then
you can't excel with whatever you want to do want to do absolutely well awesome thank you so much
angeline said would you still like to talk after the show she's totally okay if you want to
could you deal with your daughter and call her later um so i think i should because i actually
i didn't realize we were going for two hours so i told her that i would be with her in an hour so
she's done incredibly well so i would love to talk to you guys tomorrow or talk to angeline tomorrow
i think that would be better for her and i really appreciate your consideration
awesome well thank you so much may the source be with you and protection around you during
this pivotal time in history um knowledge is power the more knowledge we all have collectively
the less power they have over us the next missing link live is on wednesday with mark
granan gonna be sharing uh his uh wild story so hold on to your hats for that one um you know
we'll see you next time we see you up back here on the missing link for one love one heart one life
namaste everyone and if they ever ask you to put on a breathing inhibitor share you know what to
tell them i've been telling them for a few times we tell them no masque
like a very canadian hey bye everyone you all have a great night wherever you are in the world
and we'll see you next time we see you back here on the missing link live thanks again sherry bye
thanks jesse