WEBVTT 00:01.140 --> 00:06.920 You're all ambassadors of the Ron Paul Doctrine and it's up to you. Just tell the truth. 00:22.980 --> 00:26.420 Hello everybody. Thank you for tuning into the Liberty Report. 00:27.160 --> 00:30.020 With us today we have Daniel McAdams, our co-host. 00:30.620 --> 00:32.020 Daniel, good to see you this morning. 00:32.120 --> 00:33.620 Good morning Dr. Paul. How are you this morning? 00:33.620 --> 00:37.380 Very well. Thank you. And you do know we have a very special guest today. 00:37.620 --> 00:37.960 Absolutely. 00:38.400 --> 00:41.680 He's a special guest and special friend. I've known him for a long time. 00:41.680 --> 00:47.360 And he doesn't vacillate. He knew what was right. 00:47.640 --> 00:50.080 And he knows a little bit about libertarianism. 00:50.200 --> 00:54.260 He knows about writing. He's printed and published many books. 00:55.060 --> 00:57.160 So I'm not going to go into those details. 00:57.800 --> 01:02.340 But Charles, wait. Welcome to the program. Charles, go ahead. 01:03.880 --> 01:08.240 Dr. Paul, thank you very much for having me on your important program, the Liberty Report. 01:08.240 --> 01:11.760 Daniel, thank you very much. Good to see both of you again. I appreciate it. 01:11.760 --> 01:12.560 Great to see you again. 01:12.980 --> 01:21.240 Wonderful. I do want to mention in the introduction, just as we've worked together for a long time. 01:21.680 --> 01:25.240 But if my memory serves me right, I think you were in a conspiracy. 01:26.320 --> 01:31.900 And you knew a person by the name of Bill Haynes. And I knew both of you. 01:32.100 --> 01:34.000 And then I heard you were getting together. 01:34.000 --> 01:39.000 And I have an idea that you might have been behind a little bit of pressure 01:39.000 --> 01:43.920 getting me involved in some of this political stuff and running for office, 01:44.100 --> 01:46.100 at least for the presidential office. 01:46.320 --> 01:51.340 Is that true that you and Bill actually conspired over libertarianism? 01:52.360 --> 01:58.940 I have to tell you, Dr. Paul, that the activists that were out in force for your campaign 01:58.940 --> 02:03.160 told me afterwards that I was the very first person on national television. 02:03.160 --> 02:06.800 I guess it was in 2007 on the national TV. 02:06.900 --> 02:10.780 And I can't even remember which network it was to promote you as a presidential candidate. 02:11.260 --> 02:16.040 And I remember they were talking about something else and I knew we had 30 seconds to go 02:16.040 --> 02:18.440 and I'm thinking, how can I mention Dr. Paul? How can I fit it in? 02:18.740 --> 02:22.960 So I just boarded it out that you were available and we better get busy 02:23.460 --> 02:25.480 and get you in the race and get you elected. 02:25.620 --> 02:26.960 That was a very long time ago. 02:27.160 --> 02:30.960 And you know, you don't always have to get elected to make a big difference in the country 02:30.960 --> 02:32.340 as you know you have done. 02:33.000 --> 02:35.520 Daniel, would you like to welcome our guest today? 02:35.920 --> 02:39.700 Welcome, Charles. You're a great writer, journalist. 02:40.620 --> 02:42.740 I've spent a lot of years admiring your voice. 02:43.240 --> 02:45.060 Probably one of the best voices out there. 02:45.860 --> 02:47.720 But the voice is no match for your great brain. 02:47.800 --> 02:50.840 So we are really delighted to have you here on a day where there's really 02:50.840 --> 02:53.980 not very much going on, Dr. Paul. It's just empty, right? 02:54.120 --> 02:55.480 He's going to tell us what's going on. 02:56.800 --> 02:58.000 I know he has a solution. 02:58.000 --> 02:58.600 Yes. 02:59.080 --> 03:02.260 It's getting people to look at that solution, 03:02.620 --> 03:06.920 which Charles has been involved in trying to spread the message for a long time. 03:07.000 --> 03:08.720 And that's what we try to do here. 03:09.200 --> 03:14.120 But I want to hold up this little pamphlet book. Here we go. 03:14.640 --> 03:17.760 And that's the most recent book that Charles has put out. 03:18.220 --> 03:20.820 And I think we'll start off. Let me see. 03:21.140 --> 03:22.360 Yeah, you can see that now. 03:22.760 --> 03:25.920 I guess Charles would like to know a little bit more 03:25.920 --> 03:29.980 and let our listeners and our viewers know about this book. 03:31.180 --> 03:34.180 Well, Dr. Paul, you should know that it is a tribute to you 03:34.180 --> 03:36.660 because you are the one that actually coined the phrase, 03:36.900 --> 03:37.820 The Empire of Lies. 03:38.560 --> 03:40.720 And that's exactly what this book is about. 03:40.900 --> 03:42.980 The subtitle is Fragments from the Memory Hole. 03:43.480 --> 03:45.740 And so it's a collection at the beginning. 03:45.960 --> 03:46.580 It's not a collection. 03:46.840 --> 03:47.700 It's a little more than a collection, 03:47.840 --> 03:51.900 but of the ways that we have been lied into war serially 03:51.900 --> 03:53.420 over and over again. 03:53.420 --> 03:55.480 And I don't go that far back in history, 03:55.560 --> 03:58.840 but I certainly go back to at least to the Vietnam War. 03:59.220 --> 04:02.020 But some of these things will shock the current generation 04:02.020 --> 04:03.680 about what they have told us, 04:03.960 --> 04:06.100 how the tale has wagged the dog, 04:06.260 --> 04:08.940 how we've been misled into one serial regime change war 04:08.940 --> 04:09.600 after another. 04:10.260 --> 04:11.520 And here we go again. 04:12.000 --> 04:15.120 And the larger point of the book really is for people 04:15.120 --> 04:16.500 to begin to value the truth. 04:16.820 --> 04:18.280 Because if they don't value the truth, 04:18.440 --> 04:20.980 our national trajectory is very, very grim. 04:20.980 --> 04:26.280 And so I try to provide for people 04:26.280 --> 04:29.120 an understanding of where we are headed 04:29.120 --> 04:32.240 if we don't change our ways in The Empire of Lies. 04:32.620 --> 04:34.780 And it's not a pretty picture. 04:34.920 --> 04:38.020 It's not original with me that there is a way that empires die. 04:38.640 --> 04:42.360 And one of the ways, it's often called Imperial Overstretch. 04:42.960 --> 04:46.320 An Imperial Overstretch is when an empire in decline 04:46.320 --> 04:49.200 or a country losing its global hegemony 04:49.200 --> 04:52.080 starts to see its position waning around the world. 04:52.800 --> 04:59.440 And so they see that not as a result of the impingement 04:59.440 --> 05:01.260 of their economic power, 05:01.380 --> 05:03.320 which is the case here in the United States, 05:03.600 --> 05:06.700 but they see it as a threat to their economic might. 05:07.160 --> 05:10.220 So instead of freeing up the economy, 05:10.980 --> 05:13.940 saving resources for the people that created the wealth 05:13.940 --> 05:16.660 to begin with to create a more prosperous country 05:16.660 --> 05:18.100 and a more prosperous people 05:18.100 --> 05:21.960 instead of doing that, they divert additional revenue 05:21.960 --> 05:24.340 to the global military machine 05:24.340 --> 05:26.600 and therefore hasten their own demise. 05:26.860 --> 05:28.160 And this is clearly going on now. 05:28.720 --> 05:31.960 President Trump just recently asked for another $50 billion 05:31.960 --> 05:35.060 for a supplemental like everybody knows 05:35.060 --> 05:38.180 we spend a trillion dollars a year now on the global whore machine 05:38.180 --> 05:40.960 and he not so long ago, just weeks ago, 05:41.040 --> 05:43.080 asked for $1.5 trillion. 05:43.740 --> 05:46.300 So this is what empires do in extremis 05:46.300 --> 05:47.780 and this is how they seal their own fate. 05:48.160 --> 05:49.060 And I'll just say one more thing 05:49.060 --> 05:51.260 and I'll give you gentlemen back your show. 05:51.880 --> 05:53.960 But this goes hand in hand, frankly. 05:55.040 --> 05:57.480 It's not that they just coincide. 05:57.640 --> 06:00.140 They're co-related, but they are joined at the hip, 06:00.400 --> 06:02.400 the decline of the American military empire 06:02.400 --> 06:04.740 and the decline of the country's currency. 06:05.420 --> 06:07.580 And so it's an evident phenomena 06:07.580 --> 06:10.720 that all of the world is backing away from the US dollar 06:10.720 --> 06:11.420 and its promises. 06:11.680 --> 06:14.540 They know that the national debt 06:14.540 --> 06:16.520 of the greatest debtor in the world, us, 06:16.920 --> 06:18.480 the biggest spender in the world, us, 06:18.900 --> 06:22.100 cannot be repaid ultimately without resorting to inflation. 06:22.760 --> 06:25.420 These other countries know the inflation trick very, very well. 06:25.500 --> 06:28.420 They don't mind fleecing their own people with it, 06:28.420 --> 06:30.580 but they don't want to be fleeced any longer by ours. 06:30.900 --> 06:33.840 So there's a movement to alternative monetary systems, 06:34.220 --> 06:35.760 international settlement systems. 06:36.020 --> 06:38.260 It's certainly a return to gold 06:38.260 --> 06:39.840 on the part of many people domestically, 06:39.880 --> 06:41.020 but certainly in foreign countries 06:41.020 --> 06:42.000 and foreign central banks. 06:42.000 --> 06:45.580 And this is another symptom of the decline of the empire, 06:45.600 --> 06:47.000 because at the same time, 06:47.060 --> 06:49.660 people are backing away no longer trusting the currency. 06:50.160 --> 06:52.380 It's very evident in this Iran episode 06:52.380 --> 06:54.260 that people are backing away 06:54.260 --> 06:56.980 from the global American military empire. 06:57.280 --> 06:58.340 And Trump says, 06:58.420 --> 06:59.920 one day we don't need anybody's help 06:59.920 --> 07:01.120 and the British are no good 07:01.120 --> 07:02.740 and we don't need them and their bunch of sissies. 07:02.900 --> 07:03.860 And then the next day, 07:03.900 --> 07:06.620 he can't understand why he can't get the rest of the world 07:06.620 --> 07:08.660 to join him in the Persian Gulf. 07:08.980 --> 07:10.240 Well, it's the same way 07:10.240 --> 07:11.620 they're backing away from the US dollar. 07:11.620 --> 07:13.760 They're backing away from the empire. 07:14.600 --> 07:16.380 And this spells the unwinding of both. 07:16.580 --> 07:18.040 The dollar standard around the world 07:18.040 --> 07:20.520 would be very painful and costly for the American people 07:20.520 --> 07:23.640 and the global American military empire in a nutshell. 07:24.280 --> 07:24.600 Daniel. 07:25.100 --> 07:27.180 Yeah, and on that point, Charles, 07:27.420 --> 07:28.400 what's sort of interesting is, 07:28.880 --> 07:29.440 I think we tend, 07:29.560 --> 07:31.500 a lot of Americans tend to see people 07:31.500 --> 07:34.200 in other countries as being backward and not very smart. 07:34.700 --> 07:36.420 But to your point about de-dollarization, 07:36.900 --> 07:38.380 it was quite interesting 07:38.380 --> 07:40.080 that showed a lot of savvy 07:40.080 --> 07:42.240 that Iran announced a couple of days ago. 07:42.320 --> 07:44.820 Yeah, we'll let you pass through the Straits of Hormuz, 07:44.880 --> 07:46.840 but you got to pay in one, right? 07:47.620 --> 07:48.200 So they know. 07:49.920 --> 07:52.260 One of the admirals or something said, 07:52.560 --> 07:55.600 we'll give free and we'll guarantee safe passage 07:55.600 --> 07:58.820 to any tanker that wants to go through the strait 07:58.820 --> 08:00.800 accompanied by a US destroyer. 08:01.400 --> 08:02.540 They're begging for a target. 08:02.780 --> 08:03.540 Master trolling. 08:03.920 --> 08:04.920 But on your book, 08:05.160 --> 08:07.780 I just had Caleb Malpin on, 08:07.780 --> 08:09.020 I do a weekend show, 08:09.100 --> 08:10.900 Ron Paul Liberty Report Extra, 08:11.140 --> 08:12.160 where it's an interview show. 08:12.620 --> 08:13.540 And I had Caleb on. 08:13.660 --> 08:14.680 He talked about his new book, 08:15.120 --> 08:16.300 The Regime Change Industry, 08:16.400 --> 08:18.400 which is similar in many ways to yours. 08:18.980 --> 08:22.080 And the reason why I love books like yours and Caleb's 08:22.080 --> 08:24.200 is because we live in the time, 08:24.340 --> 08:24.800 as you know, 08:25.720 --> 08:27.380 especially with the younger generation 08:27.880 --> 08:30.460 of just kind of refreshing, refreshing, refreshing. 08:31.120 --> 08:32.240 You know, you're on Instagram, 08:32.500 --> 08:33.680 you're on X, you're on TikTok, 08:34.300 --> 08:35.620 you're refreshing, refreshing, refreshing. 08:35.620 --> 08:38.120 And you do get a very current information, 08:38.400 --> 08:39.820 but you missed the context. 08:40.060 --> 08:41.080 And that's the problem. 08:41.120 --> 08:41.980 And even for myself, 08:42.440 --> 08:43.920 I go back and I read your book, 08:44.060 --> 08:45.360 I read Caleb's and other books and I realized, 08:45.640 --> 08:46.480 oh, that's right. 08:46.620 --> 08:47.580 These things were happening. 08:48.260 --> 08:49.320 Well, they're happening again. 08:49.920 --> 08:50.600 And, you know, 08:51.420 --> 08:53.780 we all live through the Iraq war lies, 08:54.620 --> 08:56.060 the lies that got us into the war. 08:56.340 --> 08:59.380 And now is the same lies being told all over again, 08:59.420 --> 09:00.520 as if that never happened, 09:00.860 --> 09:02.700 as if it's just sort of a faded memory 09:03.360 --> 09:05.100 in someone's, you know, past. 09:05.100 --> 09:07.460 But I don't know how you feel about this. 09:07.500 --> 09:09.200 It almost seems to be a generational thing. 09:09.560 --> 09:11.920 Like that generation is passing out 09:11.920 --> 09:13.560 and there is a younger generation coming 09:13.560 --> 09:15.160 that's not bound by this. 09:16.460 --> 09:18.160 That's actually why the subtitle of the book 09:18.160 --> 09:19.620 is Fragments from the Memory Hole. 09:20.000 --> 09:21.060 Everybody, you know, 09:21.080 --> 09:22.540 in high school had to read 1984, 09:22.640 --> 09:23.340 at least I hope. 09:23.740 --> 09:26.600 And they know that in this brave new world dystopian 09:26.600 --> 09:28.420 that the Empire, 09:28.560 --> 09:30.120 for example, the Empire of Love 09:31.100 --> 09:32.900 is where they took people to be tortured. 09:32.900 --> 09:35.800 And the Empire, or the Ministry of Truth, 09:36.020 --> 09:38.440 is where they took history to be rewritten 09:38.440 --> 09:40.240 and the old history got sent down the Memory Hole. 09:40.620 --> 09:41.800 But so helped me, gentlemen. 09:42.020 --> 09:45.040 I watched Fox News a couple nights in a row 09:45.040 --> 09:47.100 and I just think somebody how to record that 09:47.100 --> 09:48.820 for the last three or four weeks 09:48.820 --> 09:51.240 and then play it back for the American people 09:51.240 --> 09:52.680 in six months so they can see. 09:53.020 --> 09:57.080 But it is a repeat of the same old stuff. 09:57.260 --> 09:58.720 I mean, I hear some of the canards. 09:59.040 --> 10:00.720 It reminds me of Donald Rumsdomer. 10:00.720 --> 10:03.020 Well, I called it Rumsdomer. 10:03.140 --> 10:04.880 But Donald Rumsdomer saying, 10:05.000 --> 10:06.520 oh, this war will be six days, 10:07.340 --> 10:09.000 six weeks, I doubt, six months. 10:09.100 --> 10:11.000 And I hear the same thing coming out of these guys. 10:11.380 --> 10:13.120 And of course, it's also the same thing. 10:13.300 --> 10:16.820 It's a war in search of a pretext. 10:16.980 --> 10:19.840 And you both know very well that the White House Iraq group 10:19.840 --> 10:21.700 had to get together and figure out a way to sell 10:21.700 --> 10:23.740 that war to the American people. 10:23.820 --> 10:26.400 And they came up with a bogus phrase. 10:26.740 --> 10:28.800 And by the way, just for those that don't know 10:28.800 --> 10:31.780 of a different generation, the White House Iraq group 10:31.780 --> 10:34.520 was not a group of nuclear weapons experts 10:34.520 --> 10:36.960 or military generals wondering about what would happen 10:36.960 --> 10:40.500 with these fierce WMDs if Iraq unleashed them. 10:41.020 --> 10:42.960 They weren't worried about that because they didn't have them. 10:43.020 --> 10:44.740 But it was how to convince the American people, 10:44.860 --> 10:47.020 how to stampede the American people into the war. 10:47.420 --> 10:49.020 And so they came up with a PR spin. 10:49.180 --> 10:51.080 And of course they did because the whole White House 10:51.080 --> 10:53.860 Iraq group was nothing but publicists, 10:54.000 --> 10:56.260 PR guys, spin meisters, pollsters. 10:56.260 --> 10:57.980 And so they came up with the phrase, 10:58.060 --> 11:01.520 the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud. 11:01.800 --> 11:05.380 And so the deep state is always in search 11:05.380 --> 11:06.860 of a pretext for its wars. 11:07.040 --> 11:09.880 And I've been delighted kind of on a media tour now 11:10.480 --> 11:14.680 about this book, reminding people that it was 10 years ago 11:15.260 --> 11:20.000 that President Obama declared another one 11:20.000 --> 11:23.140 of those executive national security emergency alerts 11:23.140 --> 11:28.080 about the grave threat posed to us by Venezuela. 11:29.380 --> 11:30.840 Venezuela was broken. 11:31.480 --> 11:32.720 It was in disrepair. 11:33.000 --> 11:34.200 It was under Chavez. 11:34.820 --> 11:38.020 It was a total economic calamity. 11:38.560 --> 11:41.060 And yet the president assured us that this was a grave 11:41.060 --> 11:44.680 economic threat or a threat to our standing in the world. 11:44.800 --> 11:46.220 It was a national security threat. 11:46.320 --> 11:48.040 And I went back and I chronicled, 11:48.200 --> 11:49.780 what kind of arms do they have? 11:49.860 --> 11:51.760 And he basically couldn't have landed a couple of skiffs 11:51.760 --> 11:53.200 on the Jersey shore. 11:53.620 --> 11:57.840 But the point of that is not that Obama was wrong 11:57.840 --> 12:00.900 so much as it is that the deep state has always had 12:00.900 --> 12:02.140 its eye on certain targets. 12:02.580 --> 12:03.820 Venezuela was one of them. 12:04.220 --> 12:06.380 And so they've searched for a pretext again. 12:06.560 --> 12:08.920 It was national security threat 10 years ago. 12:09.260 --> 12:10.840 This time it was fentanyl. 12:11.480 --> 12:14.280 When everybody knows there are other much richer 12:14.280 --> 12:15.540 sources of drug flow. 12:16.040 --> 12:19.540 We have to pay attention to what our president says. 12:19.540 --> 12:23.960 And Bush had a major announcement one time. 12:24.100 --> 12:26.860 He had a big sign up on a naval vessel, 12:27.060 --> 12:28.400 mission accomplished. 12:28.820 --> 12:32.260 And we get to hear that two or three times a month 12:32.260 --> 12:34.600 or a week of mission accomplished. 12:35.200 --> 12:36.320 So that's it. 12:36.520 --> 12:39.660 But I do want to bring up a current event that's 12:39.660 --> 12:42.820 really been just hit the news yesterday I think. 12:43.140 --> 12:44.900 And that has to do with Joe Kent. 12:45.360 --> 12:49.520 And this to me is a very significant event 12:49.520 --> 12:54.120 because he made the announcement I believe on X. 12:54.500 --> 12:57.780 And he is the director and was the director 12:57.780 --> 12:59.980 of the National Counterterrorism Center. 13:00.580 --> 13:04.560 And it's short and I want to read it 13:04.560 --> 13:07.420 because we're dealing with, you know, 13:07.660 --> 13:10.100 where's the treason, where are the lies? 13:10.300 --> 13:12.420 And this is such an example 13:12.420 --> 13:17.320 because after somebody else blogged on Joe Kent's message 13:17.320 --> 13:21.080 out there, they said, and you'll understand this 13:21.080 --> 13:24.400 more after I read his retirement statement, 13:25.280 --> 13:28.320 he said that he was retiring, 13:29.260 --> 13:30.940 but I read a note, somebody right there, 13:31.240 --> 13:35.020 this guy needs tried for treason. 13:36.040 --> 13:39.940 And what was his, he told the truth. 13:40.260 --> 13:42.500 He committed a really vicious lie. 13:42.840 --> 13:44.340 So I want to read that. 13:44.580 --> 13:46.200 And I know you'll have a comment. 13:46.200 --> 13:48.020 Okay, this is Joe Kent. 13:48.200 --> 13:50.240 I said he was director and was the director 13:50.240 --> 13:52.260 of National Counterterrorism Center. 13:52.480 --> 13:54.340 He says, after much reflection, 13:54.480 --> 13:56.680 I have decided to resign from my position. 13:57.020 --> 14:00.560 I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war 14:00.560 --> 14:01.100 in Iran. 14:01.500 --> 14:04.900 Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation. 14:05.040 --> 14:07.620 And it's clear that we started this war 14:07.620 --> 14:09.260 due to pressure from Israel 14:09.260 --> 14:11.860 and its powerful American lobby. 14:12.160 --> 14:14.780 It has been an honor serving under the president. 14:16.880 --> 14:19.360 And this is the whole thing. 14:19.800 --> 14:23.020 Now Joe Kent probably didn't arrive to this position 14:23.320 --> 14:26.240 that we sort of want to emphasize 14:26.240 --> 14:28.780 and let people know about it. 14:29.120 --> 14:32.840 That is that he had an epiphany. 14:33.000 --> 14:34.480 He had a change of mind. 14:35.060 --> 14:37.120 So people who change their mind and decide, 14:37.540 --> 14:39.840 maybe the truth is the best thing 14:39.840 --> 14:42.180 the American people should hear. 14:43.640 --> 14:46.240 Dr. Paul, just a quick detour. 14:46.820 --> 14:49.040 I remember at the Republican debate, 14:49.180 --> 14:50.860 I think it might have been in South Carolina, 14:51.040 --> 14:51.800 you'll know for sure, 14:52.340 --> 14:55.040 when you first ran for president. 14:55.760 --> 14:58.040 And the audience was astonished to hear 14:58.040 --> 15:00.740 you say that the war could be ended in this manner. 15:00.860 --> 15:01.980 You said we just marched in. 15:02.540 --> 15:03.960 We can just march out. 15:04.360 --> 15:06.260 So the other day for my own curiosity, 15:06.420 --> 15:07.940 and I should have jotted the numbers down, 15:08.020 --> 15:10.200 but I went and looked, I used GROC 15:10.200 --> 15:12.480 to find how many additional deaths 15:12.480 --> 15:14.720 were there of Americans from that day forward. 15:15.420 --> 15:17.260 Because had we walked out at that time, 15:17.720 --> 15:20.020 all the tragedy that occurred after that 15:20.020 --> 15:21.040 wouldn't have happened. 15:21.460 --> 15:25.640 How many Iraqis were killed needlessly 15:25.640 --> 15:28.260 after the date you said we could just march out? 15:28.500 --> 15:30.400 And how much did it cost the American people? 15:30.820 --> 15:32.480 I don't remember the exact numbers, 15:32.600 --> 15:34.800 but it was certainly thousands of Americans. 15:35.460 --> 15:38.580 It was tens of thousands of additional Iraqi deaths. 15:38.580 --> 15:40.620 And I believe the number was another 15:40.620 --> 15:43.480 $1.5 trillion in expenditures 15:43.480 --> 15:46.720 since the day you said we could march out. 15:46.900 --> 15:48.300 Had they only listened? 15:48.980 --> 15:51.280 Yeah, Joe Kent has made a name for himself. 15:51.460 --> 15:54.180 I'm among probably tens of thousands of people 15:54.180 --> 15:58.780 that sent him a congratulatory post on social media. 15:59.200 --> 16:01.820 Very proud of him for doing that. 16:01.880 --> 16:04.340 He's a man who's seen battle, been in battle, 16:04.340 --> 16:08.080 I believe he lost his wife in the mid-east war. 16:09.320 --> 16:10.380 And so to see him, 16:11.060 --> 16:12.620 by the way, you will remember that 16:13.420 --> 16:15.460 Pentagon chat group when they were deciding 16:15.460 --> 16:18.080 to attack the Houthis a year ago. 16:18.160 --> 16:19.200 It was a year ago this month. 16:20.180 --> 16:22.820 And he, among all of them, 16:23.560 --> 16:25.520 he mentioned, you know what will happen, 16:25.660 --> 16:27.180 the Iraqis will expend a great deal 16:27.180 --> 16:30.020 of munitions and armaments on this effort, 16:30.040 --> 16:32.940 and they will expect us to replenish them. 16:33.760 --> 16:36.000 True words have never been spoken. 16:36.140 --> 16:38.420 But anyway, congratulations to Joe Kent. 16:38.920 --> 16:40.020 I wonder about others. 16:40.380 --> 16:42.840 I wonder, maybe you both have a thought about this. 16:42.980 --> 16:44.860 I wonder about Tulsi Gabbard, 16:44.940 --> 16:46.940 who I've liked very much over the years. 16:47.440 --> 16:50.860 I sometimes sympathize with people in that position. 16:51.040 --> 16:52.720 They may think, well, I'm here. 16:52.980 --> 16:54.020 Maybe I can do some good. 16:54.180 --> 16:55.880 Maybe I can be a check on their madness. 16:56.460 --> 16:57.800 Maybe I can have an impact. 16:58.860 --> 17:00.660 And yet, you know, Joe Kent's obviously 17:00.660 --> 17:02.860 is going to have a huge impact with his retirement. 17:03.100 --> 17:04.120 And Tulsi would have one too. 17:04.240 --> 17:07.160 So I don't know how that discussion should break. 17:07.560 --> 17:09.940 I think you remember probably, Charles, during the Iraq war, 17:10.360 --> 17:13.920 there were several of these kinds of, you know, 17:15.240 --> 17:17.280 benchmark events, you know, things that happened 17:17.280 --> 17:18.500 that were really important. 17:18.580 --> 17:19.800 There were a few people that broke away 17:19.800 --> 17:21.360 from the Bush administration. 17:21.780 --> 17:23.520 We had a few of them speak in your office, 17:23.680 --> 17:24.400 as a matter of fact. 17:25.280 --> 17:27.180 These things are very important events. 17:27.180 --> 17:28.640 I think this is definitely one of them. 17:28.840 --> 17:32.140 Now, from the letter of resignation that he sent to Tulsi Gabbard 17:32.140 --> 17:35.120 and to President Trump, as you point out, he said, 17:35.560 --> 17:38.480 as a veteran who deployed to combat 11 times 17:38.480 --> 17:41.080 and as a gold star husband 17:41.080 --> 17:43.280 who lost my beloved wife Shannon 17:43.280 --> 17:45.640 in a war manufactured by Israel, 17:46.180 --> 17:48.940 I cannot support sending the next generation off 17:48.940 --> 17:51.380 to fight and die in a war that serves 17:51.380 --> 17:53.180 no benefit to the American people, 17:53.180 --> 17:56.280 nor justifies the cost of American lives. 17:57.020 --> 17:59.340 Joe Kent, I certainly didn't agree with everything. 17:59.400 --> 18:01.000 He was a lot more hawkish than we are, 18:01.540 --> 18:03.100 but chose himself to be man of integrity. 18:03.500 --> 18:06.440 And how do we know that because of the response so far? 18:06.880 --> 18:09.480 The smear boond is out in full force. 18:10.020 --> 18:11.060 I'll read you a couple of things. 18:11.300 --> 18:12.960 Here's our favorite warrior. 18:13.260 --> 18:15.540 He's been in combat many, many times. 18:16.080 --> 18:16.600 Lindsey Graham. 18:17.420 --> 18:19.280 Lindsey Graham, it's... 18:19.860 --> 18:23.160 Mr. Kent is echoing the democratic talking points 18:23.160 --> 18:25.460 which are devoid of fact or evidence. 18:26.060 --> 18:29.100 Mr. Kent said Iran prose no imminent threat to the U.S. 18:29.560 --> 18:31.940 clearly he did not go to work enough. 18:32.580 --> 18:35.060 This is a person at the nerve center of U.S. intelligence. 18:35.600 --> 18:38.740 Carolyn Levitt, the duplicitous 18:39.520 --> 18:41.200 spokesperson for the White House, 18:41.600 --> 18:44.840 she said Kent is making democrat and liberal talking points. 18:45.440 --> 18:47.160 I mean, I think that's just beneath contempt 18:47.160 --> 18:50.660 to have to say this about a decorated combat veteran like this. 18:50.720 --> 18:51.160 Right. 18:54.120 --> 18:56.300 We've seen it in operation so many times. 18:56.820 --> 18:59.880 It's almost... I hope it's becoming ineffectual 18:59.880 --> 19:02.920 because people are beginning to see it's transparent. 19:03.300 --> 19:03.780 It's fictional. 19:05.300 --> 19:07.760 But it reminds me, since you mentioned Lindsey Graham, 19:08.000 --> 19:09.880 I wrote a piece the other day 19:09.880 --> 19:15.680 mentioning that even John McCain's daughter 19:16.140 --> 19:19.140 has said they've got to pull Lindsey Graham 19:19.140 --> 19:20.360 off the national stage. 19:20.960 --> 19:22.840 He's so crazed. 19:23.060 --> 19:25.020 He's so crazed in his warmongering 19:25.020 --> 19:27.040 that it's an embarrassment to everybody. 19:27.160 --> 19:29.920 You know, in promoting Empires of Lying, 19:30.040 --> 19:33.360 going on a lot of podcasts and radio and TV shows, 19:33.980 --> 19:36.080 one of the things I've started to make notes about 19:36.080 --> 19:37.460 and I may even write a piece about it 19:37.460 --> 19:40.620 is how easily the American people are propaganda. 19:40.960 --> 19:42.520 So I made a note of some of the key things 19:42.520 --> 19:45.200 that they say in objection to my point of view, 19:45.200 --> 19:46.660 your point of view on these things. 19:47.260 --> 19:49.280 And one of them is very funny. 19:49.600 --> 19:52.240 It's because it's so tissue thin and they say, 19:52.320 --> 19:54.640 well, and they get this on Fox News, of course, 19:54.780 --> 19:56.780 because it's repeated over and over again. 19:57.120 --> 19:59.660 They say, well, for 47 years, 19:59.840 --> 20:01.780 they have called us the great Satan. 20:02.180 --> 20:05.240 And for 47 years, they have chanted 20:05.240 --> 20:06.080 Death to America. 20:06.640 --> 20:08.680 And I'm thinking, don't you people listen 20:08.680 --> 20:10.160 to the political debate? 20:10.380 --> 20:13.600 I remember President Reagan getting ready 20:13.600 --> 20:15.120 for a Saturday morning address saying, 20:15.220 --> 20:18.460 and the bombs fall on the Soviet Union starting right now. 20:18.580 --> 20:21.920 And it shook the people in the Kremlin when he heard that. 20:22.460 --> 20:25.600 And then there was John McCain. 20:25.900 --> 20:30.320 I watched him on TV singing like some crazed beach boy, 20:30.540 --> 20:32.800 bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, I ran. 20:33.240 --> 20:35.880 That was, I don't know, 10 years ago or more. 20:36.240 --> 20:37.660 And then what about President Trump? 20:37.940 --> 20:40.060 Yeah, and President Trump goes around, 20:40.520 --> 20:41.800 if they don't do what we tell them, 20:41.800 --> 20:42.820 there will be hell to pay. 20:43.120 --> 20:46.200 You will see Hellfire and Brimstone like you've never seen. 20:46.340 --> 20:48.160 The world's going to come crashing down on people. 20:48.460 --> 20:51.420 And he says this stuff throughout his entire presidency. 20:52.060 --> 20:55.020 And so nobody listens to the propaganda 20:55.020 --> 20:57.760 and the sad excuse for talking points 20:57.760 --> 21:00.960 that are violent and hateful that come out of the US. 21:01.260 --> 21:03.100 But the media has them focused on the fact 21:03.100 --> 21:04.420 that people turned out in the streets 21:04.420 --> 21:08.840 once they got tired of being manhandled 21:08.840 --> 21:12.840 by America's puppet government in the 1970s 21:12.840 --> 21:16.740 and shouted death to America, the great Satan. 21:17.360 --> 21:18.540 It's par for the course. 21:18.960 --> 21:19.160 Yeah. 21:19.880 --> 21:20.900 Well, that's neocons. 21:22.000 --> 21:25.200 Well, I have one quote. 21:25.460 --> 21:28.560 I want to get a response from Charles. 21:29.080 --> 21:31.080 This is in this article that we had talked about. 21:32.040 --> 21:34.240 And this comes from Rubio, your family. 21:34.340 --> 21:35.180 Oh, another great guy. 21:37.020 --> 21:38.380 Secretary of State. 21:38.840 --> 21:40.540 Is he Secretary of State? 21:41.000 --> 21:41.080 Yeah. 21:41.180 --> 21:41.880 And a few other things. 21:41.880 --> 21:43.020 A few other things, yeah. 21:43.380 --> 21:44.780 This, my told reporters. 21:45.680 --> 21:47.360 I'm wearing this all the time. 21:47.600 --> 21:50.560 I'm not quite sure that it makes any sense. 21:50.780 --> 21:52.000 It doesn't make any sense to me. 21:52.200 --> 21:53.960 So Charles is going to make sense of it. 21:54.580 --> 21:58.160 This, my told reporters, the US decided to strike Iran 21:58.160 --> 22:01.980 because Israel had made a decision to attack first. 22:02.500 --> 22:06.220 And Iran would retaliate against American troops 22:06.220 --> 22:11.000 if the Trump administration didn't launch its own preemptive strike. 22:11.220 --> 22:12.280 Is that logical? 22:15.740 --> 22:18.380 Somebody in the Obama administration said, 22:18.440 --> 22:19.780 well, they tried the same thing with us. 22:19.840 --> 22:21.720 They said, if you don't do it, we're going to start doing it now. 22:21.780 --> 22:24.220 And they just brushed them off. 22:24.740 --> 22:28.100 But how does this work that the so-called junior partner, 22:28.100 --> 22:32.160 how does this work that the tail gets to wag the dog, 22:32.280 --> 22:35.900 the junior partner gets to control what the big partner does, 22:36.060 --> 22:37.140 the senior partner does? 22:37.500 --> 22:40.080 I mean, it's absolutely incomprehensible. 22:40.700 --> 22:44.700 And to understand that although we are their sole resource provider, 22:45.340 --> 22:48.980 the president couldn't stand them down from a threat like this 22:48.980 --> 22:50.000 in the interest of peace. 22:50.320 --> 22:51.560 He couldn't stand them down. 22:51.800 --> 22:54.480 And yet they're totally dependent on us for their war machine. 22:55.140 --> 22:56.960 It's just an incomprehensible. 22:56.960 --> 22:59.880 The only clear solution, the only clear resolution of it 22:59.880 --> 23:01.380 is that Trump wanted the war. 23:01.820 --> 23:03.600 It's very clear he wanted the war. 23:04.320 --> 23:08.200 And he's actually been a warm-up. 23:08.280 --> 23:10.380 I know he talks peace in campaigns. 23:11.000 --> 23:16.100 And I know he called out the Iraq war as a bogus that we relied into war. 23:16.580 --> 23:18.960 But I will tell you, even during his first campaign, 23:19.200 --> 23:22.280 some of his advisors mentioned off the record 23:22.280 --> 23:24.740 that he keeps asking about nuclear weapons. 23:24.980 --> 23:27.460 Well, why do we have all these dukes if we can't use them? 23:27.600 --> 23:29.420 What good are they if we can't use them? 23:29.500 --> 23:32.760 And they had repeatedly to try to talk him down about, 23:33.000 --> 23:35.620 well, you can't use them for a multitude of reasons. 23:35.980 --> 23:38.300 And he was surprised to hear all this 23:38.300 --> 23:39.980 and kept asking about using them. 23:40.360 --> 23:42.440 Yeah, that sounds like it reminds you of Madeleine Albright. 23:42.580 --> 23:44.460 What's good is this great military if we can't use it. 23:46.340 --> 23:46.780 Interesting. 23:47.040 --> 23:48.080 What don't you think about this? 23:48.240 --> 23:50.260 We tend to talk about the deep state 23:50.260 --> 23:52.200 and certainly there is an evil deep state out there. 23:52.680 --> 23:54.940 But on the way into the studio, I've listened to John Meersheimer 23:56.160 --> 23:57.920 talking to Judge Napolitano. 23:58.380 --> 24:00.360 And he made an interesting and very ironic point 24:01.060 --> 24:05.260 that it was the deep state that was trying to prevent Trump from doing this. 24:05.480 --> 24:06.760 And that's why you saw the leaks. 24:07.420 --> 24:09.520 That's why you saw all of these things come out 24:09.520 --> 24:13.020 because they saw that he was huddled with Jared Kushner, 24:13.360 --> 24:16.580 with Steve Witkoff, with a very, very small group of people 24:16.580 --> 24:19.240 who were very, very closely tied to Israel. 24:19.240 --> 24:22.080 And this doesn't mean the deep state is our savior, 24:22.080 --> 24:24.880 but it means that survival is their number one goal. 24:25.360 --> 24:28.360 And so they wanted him to not do this because then they knew 24:28.360 --> 24:32.940 the things were going to go badly if he didn't listen to them. 24:33.480 --> 24:35.340 But this is going to be my last question 24:35.340 --> 24:38.360 because I feel like we were so enthusiastic about starting 24:38.360 --> 24:41.400 a conversation with you, at least speaking for myself, 24:41.840 --> 24:45.220 that we really didn't give you a chance to talk about your book. 24:45.580 --> 24:47.680 So if you could walk us through the book, 24:47.680 --> 24:49.300 we want people to buy the book. 24:49.400 --> 24:51.000 So let's sell that book. 24:52.500 --> 24:53.800 That's very generous of you. 24:54.220 --> 24:57.980 Well, it's pretty juicy in a lot of ways. 24:58.180 --> 24:59.300 You mentioned Madeleine Albright. 24:59.880 --> 25:04.380 Everybody remembers that her saying that 400,000 excess deaths 25:04.380 --> 25:07.060 or whatever it was in the Middle East and in Iraq 25:07.060 --> 25:08.740 was worth the price. 25:08.900 --> 25:11.620 And that was one of the key arguments of Ben Laden 25:11.620 --> 25:13.960 when he launched his fight against the United States. 25:13.960 --> 25:16.160 That seems to have slipped down the memory hole, 25:16.160 --> 25:17.300 but I even have a better one. 25:18.000 --> 25:21.160 Hugh Shelton was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs 25:21.160 --> 25:24.100 at the time of 9-11. 25:24.280 --> 25:26.400 He had been chairman during the Clinton administration 25:26.980 --> 25:28.080 for a couple of years. 25:28.280 --> 25:29.700 And there was sort of a principles group 25:29.700 --> 25:32.100 that would meet every week to have breakfast in the White House 25:32.100 --> 25:34.540 and it consisted of a couple of cabinet secretaries, 25:35.280 --> 25:37.780 senior staffers, General Shelton and one or two others. 25:38.020 --> 25:40.800 And one day, this is in his biography, 25:41.340 --> 25:42.320 this is an internet rumor, 25:42.960 --> 25:46.740 one day he said one of the parties to those breakfasts, 25:47.020 --> 25:49.260 it's very clear, if you read between the lines, 25:49.480 --> 25:51.720 that it was Madeleine Albright, he doesn't say. 25:52.520 --> 25:54.240 It's very clear it was Madeleine Albright 25:54.240 --> 25:57.160 who came up to him and said, this is before 9-11, 25:57.340 --> 26:00.040 said, General, why don't we do a thing where, you know, 26:00.120 --> 26:02.720 you paint a plane and you put a pilot up there 26:02.720 --> 26:04.360 and we can shoot it down over Iraq 26:04.360 --> 26:07.100 and give us justification for a war in Iraq. 26:07.900 --> 26:11.660 And he was livid about it. 26:11.660 --> 26:15.220 He was furious about it and in his telling 26:15.220 --> 26:18.520 in his autobiography, he dressed her down. 26:18.720 --> 26:20.520 But the same sort of thing, you know, 26:20.540 --> 26:22.340 seems to go on over and over again. 26:22.460 --> 26:25.180 So I cover things like that so people can understand 26:25.180 --> 26:28.500 there is justification, ample justification to be, 26:28.720 --> 26:32.340 to be, to scrutinize things people say 26:32.340 --> 26:35.140 and false flag attacks are common 26:35.140 --> 26:36.340 and I detail a lot of them, 26:36.340 --> 26:37.960 but I want to say something about the media 26:37.960 --> 26:39.480 since that's a little bit of my background. 26:40.500 --> 26:42.940 There is a strange syndrome 26:44.880 --> 26:48.540 that you won't find in any of the psychiatric diagnostic manuals, 26:48.540 --> 26:50.120 but it really should be found in there. 26:50.380 --> 26:52.580 I've given it the name Combat Envy 26:53.220 --> 26:57.300 and it is, it is so dangerous 26:57.300 --> 26:59.860 would it manifest itself in political leaders 26:59.860 --> 27:03.200 and in our leading journalists and communications. 27:03.500 --> 27:05.220 I mean, if you run into a guy in a bar sometime 27:05.220 --> 27:06.760 and he said, oh yeah, I was an ABCL 27:06.760 --> 27:09.060 and he has a, you know, kind of a hole in his psyche 27:09.060 --> 27:10.820 he's trying to fill by bragging about something 27:10.820 --> 27:11.980 that may or may not have occurred. 27:12.280 --> 27:14.940 That's one thing, but when they're on national television every day 27:14.940 --> 27:16.300 it's another problem. 27:16.660 --> 27:21.680 So, so Fox News featured a guy named Wayne Simmons 27:21.680 --> 27:24.860 for years, for 15 years I guess 27:24.860 --> 27:28.100 and he was, he was described as a former CIA 27:28.100 --> 27:31.880 national security expert and terrorism expert and so on 27:31.880 --> 27:34.120 and they trotted him out all the time 27:34.120 --> 27:36.960 not because of the wisdom of what he said 27:36.960 --> 27:39.260 but because Fox News liked it 27:39.260 --> 27:42.980 because you know, the narcotic of fear is good for revenue 27:42.980 --> 27:44.220 it's good for ratings. 27:44.620 --> 27:46.060 Oh, it's another Fox News alert 27:46.060 --> 27:47.880 and here's Wayne Simmons tells us about the latest 27:47.880 --> 27:51.500 and he, for 15 years he came up with the most outlandish stuff 27:51.500 --> 27:54.440 he argued 15 years ago 27:54.440 --> 27:57.640 that we should have launched a ground invasion of Iran 27:57.640 --> 27:59.360 15 years ago. 27:59.840 --> 28:03.420 So finally some real CIA guy got a little bit tired of this nonsense 28:03.420 --> 28:05.340 just like some of the deep state guys thought 28:05.340 --> 28:07.280 maybe we better back up Trump 28:07.280 --> 28:08.880 or we'll lose control of this operation 28:09.420 --> 28:12.180 and so they blew the cover on him 28:12.180 --> 28:16.280 and it turned out that this national security expert 28:16.280 --> 28:17.700 was really a hot tub manager 28:18.260 --> 28:20.920 and a bookie, he was a bookie and a hot tub man. 28:21.200 --> 28:23.120 So anyway they got rid of him 28:23.120 --> 28:26.420 but it's even worse, I hope people will remember 28:26.420 --> 28:30.060 Brian Williams who was the primary news anchor on NBC 28:30.840 --> 28:33.060 and Brian Williams started 28:33.060 --> 28:36.980 he went into the first Iraq invasion on a helicopter thing 28:36.980 --> 28:38.160 there's no danger to him whatsoever 28:38.160 --> 28:40.020 but he started embellishing the tale 28:40.020 --> 28:42.380 and then the first telling it was we went in 28:42.380 --> 28:44.300 and we were threatened and so on 28:44.300 --> 28:46.900 the next one I saw our PG's coming at us 28:46.900 --> 28:48.100 the next one, oh they hit us 28:48.100 --> 28:49.800 and they hit the helicopter behind me 28:49.800 --> 28:50.600 and then the next one 28:50.600 --> 28:52.340 and it just grew and grew 28:53.000 --> 28:54.700 corkscrew landings or whatever he said 28:54.700 --> 28:58.680 and this went on on national television 28:58.680 --> 29:00.880 and so finally some of the guys 29:00.880 --> 29:03.400 that were on the mission got tired hearing it 29:03.400 --> 29:05.160 and they blew the whistle on Brian Williams 29:05.160 --> 29:06.480 and Stars and Stripes 29:06.480 --> 29:10.680 and so by the way the operation was called Big Windy 29:10.680 --> 29:13.640 which was a good description of Brian Williams himself 29:13.640 --> 29:15.740 but so when the truth came out 29:15.740 --> 29:16.720 now think about this 29:16.720 --> 29:18.000 the truth came out about this 29:18.000 --> 29:19.180 and what was his excuse 29:20.200 --> 29:24.860 he said, oh I must have had a brain tumor 29:25.420 --> 29:27.060 I mean he's trying to shuffle off 29:27.060 --> 29:28.880 responsibility for his lies 29:28.880 --> 29:30.360 but it's even worse than that 29:30.360 --> 29:32.440 because this was NBC 29:32.980 --> 29:34.860 I think it was owned by General Electric 29:34.860 --> 29:37.280 major, you know, Pentagon contractor 29:37.280 --> 29:38.780 and so on at the time 29:38.780 --> 29:40.880 did they fire him? No 29:42.540 --> 29:44.460 so here's the national news media 29:44.460 --> 29:46.820 doesn't have respect enough for the truth 29:46.820 --> 29:48.080 or their viewers 29:48.080 --> 29:51.060 when a guy is called in a flagrant lie 29:51.060 --> 29:53.740 about war and peace on their primary anchor 29:53.740 --> 29:56.340 do they have enough respect for him to let him go 29:56.340 --> 29:58.220 maybe they should pay for his counseling 29:58.220 --> 29:59.360 if that's what he needs 29:59.360 --> 30:00.640 maybe he has a brain tumor 30:00.640 --> 30:01.800 they should give him an MRI 30:01.800 --> 30:02.960 whatever the case is 30:02.960 --> 30:04.760 but they shouldn't entrust him 30:04.760 --> 30:06.000 with the people's viewing 30:06.000 --> 30:09.040 and yet they suspended him 30:09.040 --> 30:10.400 for a nominal couple of weeks 30:10.400 --> 30:12.580 and then they shuffled him off 30:12.580 --> 30:14.560 made him a primary anchor on MSNBC 30:14.560 --> 30:17.240 and I could tell you stories like this 30:17.240 --> 30:18.860 about guys in the national news media 30:18.860 --> 30:19.800 like Bill O'Reilly 30:19.800 --> 30:20.780 another warm longer 30:21.340 --> 30:23.480 and Bill O'Reilly bragged about 30:23.480 --> 30:24.920 when I lead my men in battle 30:24.920 --> 30:26.900 you can find the YouTube of them talking about that 30:26.900 --> 30:28.860 well of course he never led any men in battle 30:28.860 --> 30:30.800 and then he said well when I was in a war 30:30.800 --> 30:32.080 in the Falklands 30:33.060 --> 30:35.900 well he was never in the Falklands 30:35.900 --> 30:38.000 never period end of story 30:38.000 --> 30:39.460 and when I was in the war 30:39.460 --> 30:40.420 and when I saw this 30:40.420 --> 30:42.020 and when I was in the war in the Falklands 30:42.020 --> 30:43.760 and he even went so far 30:43.760 --> 30:45.660 he went so far as to say things like 30:46.260 --> 30:48.800 I saw nuns getting shot in the head 30:48.800 --> 30:50.880 and I suppose he was talking about things 30:50.880 --> 30:52.460 in Central America at the time 30:52.460 --> 30:55.200 but in any case the truth finally comes out 30:55.200 --> 30:56.440 and it turns out 30:56.440 --> 30:57.900 of course he was never in the Falklands 30:57.900 --> 30:59.020 he was never in a war 30:59.660 --> 31:01.820 and he never saw nuns getting shot in the head 31:01.820 --> 31:02.800 but like all of us 31:02.800 --> 31:04.060 he might have seen the pictures 31:05.280 --> 31:06.080 and yet 31:06.540 --> 31:08.380 you know if you saw the Zapruder film 31:08.380 --> 31:09.620 would you say you were an eyewitness 31:09.620 --> 31:11.540 to the assassination of John F. Kennedy 31:12.020 --> 31:14.140 so but of course Fox circled the wagons 31:14.140 --> 31:15.180 and they protected him 31:15.180 --> 31:17.660 and by the way it went on even further than that 31:17.660 --> 31:19.140 I don't read any of his books 31:19.140 --> 31:20.720 but I told now that in his 31:21.820 --> 31:23.520 Killing Kennedy book 31:23.520 --> 31:25.880 he talks about having been on the front porch 31:25.880 --> 31:27.400 of I think it was George DeMorenschild 31:27.400 --> 31:28.840 in Florida 31:28.840 --> 31:31.860 it was an Oswald associate 31:31.860 --> 31:33.560 a CIA Oswald guy 31:33.560 --> 31:36.160 and when DeMorenschild 31:36.700 --> 31:38.020 purportedly committed suicide 31:38.020 --> 31:38.660 with a shotgun 31:38.660 --> 31:40.700 O'Reilly was there to get the big scoop 31:40.700 --> 31:41.780 just before he killed himself 31:41.780 --> 31:42.800 and he heard the shotgun blast 31:42.800 --> 31:43.820 when he was ringing the doorbell 31:43.820 --> 31:45.600 and it was a lie 31:45.600 --> 31:46.740 it was another lie 31:46.740 --> 31:48.760 he was in Texas at the time 31:48.760 --> 31:50.120 and they had tape recordings of him 31:50.120 --> 31:51.420 talking to somebody on the phone 31:51.420 --> 31:51.940 at the time 31:51.940 --> 31:53.200 he was nowhere around 31:53.740 --> 31:55.320 so this is combat envy 31:55.320 --> 31:56.740 and I could cite you 31:56.740 --> 31:58.000 cases of elected officials 31:58.000 --> 31:59.120 we all know about them 31:59.120 --> 32:00.060 that make up these tales 32:00.060 --> 32:01.620 about their own personal daring do 32:01.620 --> 32:03.040 but these people 32:03.040 --> 32:04.900 are dangerous because 32:04.900 --> 32:06.640 they try to stamp 32:06.640 --> 32:08.800 they fill their own inadequacy 32:09.340 --> 32:10.860 by talking about their bravado 32:11.360 --> 32:13.500 and they hope to use their bravado 32:13.500 --> 32:14.260 to stamp people 32:14.260 --> 32:15.560 and do another war 32:15.560 --> 32:16.540 glorious war 32:16.540 --> 32:19.200 so I call this syndrome combat envy 32:19.200 --> 32:20.860 and there's a lot more like that 32:20.860 --> 32:22.840 but tries to explain 32:22.840 --> 32:24.540 how we get where we are 32:24.540 --> 32:25.560 and how we're manipulated 32:25.560 --> 32:27.060 where we are going 32:27.600 --> 32:29.260 Charles I want to again 32:29.260 --> 32:30.240 thank you very much 32:30.240 --> 32:31.880 for being on our program today 32:31.880 --> 32:32.920 it was a great program 32:32.920 --> 32:34.260 and I'm sure our viewers 32:34.260 --> 32:35.920 have been very pleased 32:35.920 --> 32:37.540 I'm going to put up this picture 32:37.540 --> 32:39.420 the copy of your book 32:39.420 --> 32:40.560 to remind them 32:40.560 --> 32:41.520 go out there 32:41.520 --> 32:42.380 and get this book 32:42.380 --> 32:43.360 Empower of Lives 32:44.040 --> 32:45.780 and also I'm going to close 32:45.780 --> 32:47.360 with one little comment 32:47.360 --> 32:50.060 Lions have been around for a long time 32:50.060 --> 32:51.830 and there are 32:52.560 --> 32:53.660 some lies 32:53.660 --> 32:56.340 I guess they're worse than others 32:56.340 --> 32:57.140 and I would say 32:57.140 --> 32:59.420 the lies getting us into war 33:00.100 --> 33:01.760 probably is much worse 33:01.760 --> 33:03.420 than a lot of other lying 33:03.420 --> 33:04.820 the other lies 33:04.820 --> 33:06.000 they're all bad 33:06.610 --> 33:08.160 but when they lie about war 33:08.160 --> 33:09.300 and get them into war 33:09.300 --> 33:10.140 just think of the lies 33:10.140 --> 33:11.960 about Vietnam or whatever 33:11.960 --> 33:12.640 it looks like 33:12.640 --> 33:14.520 almost every war we've been in 33:14.520 --> 33:17.480 it leads to a lot more death and destruction 33:18.020 --> 33:20.000 but I do want to thank you again 33:20.000 --> 33:21.440 Charles for being with us 33:21.440 --> 33:24.360 and I want to thank our viewers 33:24.360 --> 33:25.500 for tuning in today 33:25.500 --> 33:27.180 to the Liberty Report 33:27.760 --> 33:29.080 please come back soon