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Hello again, free thinkers.

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Okay, well, today is going to be a great episode. Every time we have Gavin on, it's a very compelling educational experience.

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This guy is basically walking encyclopedia and there's a reason why he's the heavyweight champ of returning guests to the Free Thought Project podcast.

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And before I jump into his intro here, can anybody guess how many times Gavin's been on this podcast?

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I think in five maybe?

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Anybody else? Anybody?

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Four. I'm thinking it's maybe eight, man.

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Today it makes eight, yes.

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Holy shit.

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Wow.

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And I was looking at the notes here and it looks like you've been a guest four times.

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I think twice you came on as part of like a roundtable discussion and even one time as a guest host.

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So there's certainly a bountiful buffet for any of our listeners who really want to catch up on Gavin's work or his endless knowledge.

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But he is also written for us here at the Free Thought Project.

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And he's also our 2018 purge band buddy when we lost hundreds of thousands of followers on our pages and accounts on the same day and along with many others.

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But that's really just the tip of the iceberg touching on how far back our connection with Gavin goes.

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But Gavin, I know it's extremely early in your neck of the woods.

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Thank you so much for making the time to join us today and welcome back to the Free Thought Project podcast, brother.

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How you been?

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It's always a pleasure because things have been challenging, man.

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But when you look around the world, I think it would probably be the collective perspective.

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But despite how challenging it is, there's always stuff to be optimistic about.

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So hopefully we'll get into some of that today.

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Absolutely, man.

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Well, you should know if anybody, and this is something I actually wanted to mention here, is that Gavin is the one who is responsible for making all these kick-ass videos that you're probably seeing on social media.

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These one minute kind of real videos with highlighting different podcast guests.

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Gavin's been the one behind the scenes working on that.

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So if anybody knows that we always try to end the podcast on a white pill, it's probably you, man.

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You've had to listen to all these shows for the past year or so.

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But it has been a little while since you've been on the show.

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I think it was back in April of last year when we talked about Zionism, Jewish eugenics, and the Nazi connection, which was a pretty fascinating show.

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But we've been talking for over a year now about having you come back on.

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And I remember around the beginning of this year, you reached out to me about a topic that you were currently researching.

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And of course, at that time, the topic was being discussed at length.

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But now with the news cycle moving at breakneck speed, it's slowly but surely over the course of time then kind of forgotten about.

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Now, the topic I'm referring to is Elon Musk's pet project, Doge.

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You know, the Department of Government Efficiency.

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And I remember when it first launched, like many of us didn't really know what to think about it.

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We wanted to believe it would do some good.

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And if I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure Musk even boasted about his goal of eliminating $2 trillion in government spending.

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Well, spoiler alert, of course, that didn't happen.

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And about a week ago, we heard reports surfacing that Doge had actually been shut down.

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I think it was AP Reuters and a few other mainstream outlets reported on it as fact.

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But then there was some confusion when the Doge department themselves tweeted out that they're not halting operations.

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So I guess the jury is still out on that one.

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But about all the critiques and criticisms Americans had about it, one good thing did come from Doge.

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It effectively ended the government money laundering scheme known as USAID.

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And it was pretty big news when it happened.

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But I don't think many people really know the extent about how deep the rabbit hole goes.

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And those of us who have studied the state over the years, we know that if this happened once before,

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it could certainly happen again.

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So Gavin, I know this is a topic that you've invested a lot of time into

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and have kind of mapped out all the different avenues of deep-seated corruption.

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So what are the most explosive findings you found when researching the depth of malfeasance

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and abuse of power within USAID?

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All right, so that's a great question.

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And I'm glad that I get an opportunity to address this on a platform like the Freethore Project.

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Because honestly, and I know this happens to you guys too, there's so many things taking place

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and you become so inundated and overwhelmed that you actually have to pick and choose what you're going to react to

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or respond to intelligently.

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And it's very easy in that process to get caught up with your own personal life

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or it becomes a rabbit hole.

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And so for me, you know, between life circumstances and so on and so forth,

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I wanted to address that you said stuff so badly because not one single researcher in our field, not one,

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made any mention of the fact that you said historically to the United States

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Agency for International Development has been central to global depopulation campaigns.

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So something that people may be a little bit more familiar with the infamous memo 200,

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I think it was called from Henry Kissinger, you guys may recall that.

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In there, Henry Kissinger is of course talking about different methodologies for population control

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and literally population control.

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Well, that was addressed to you said.

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And this is because in 1966 under the Lyndon Johnson administration,

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they created something called the Office of Population.

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Very all-William sounding.

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And its mandate was to basically target third world countries specifically.

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It wasn't relegated to third world countries.

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There were also countries in Europe for population control like literally.

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And so there were also operations that targeted locally.

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I mean, we can get into that if you want to.

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But what I saw to inspire was the alleged investigation of Durge

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was it was actually a very skillful cover up of what the institution actually did

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of what you said was really involved with it directly.

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Now a lot of researchers were of course slick enough to go ahead and pick up on

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like it's got a long COVID history of destabilizing governments.

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And that's absolutely imperative.

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It was great that that was being exposed.

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But in regards to the so-called deep state, which I just coined the shadow government.

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It's the easiest way to understand it because essentially what a deep state is

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if you listen to an actual operative like Vincenzo Vincenzo from Operation Guardia,

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it means the state within a state.

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So there's a government deep within the government.

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And the easiest way to frame that is it's simply a shadow government.

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They operate in the shadows.

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And honestly, the connecting thread I see and it's most certainly the reason

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also I like to use the friggin term deep state is because it's been so thoroughly hijacked

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and weaponized and politicized as if it's only one political party involved.

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This goes far beyond politics and it goes far beyond skin colors

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and it goes far beyond geographical boundaries and it goes far beyond one corporation.

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There's entire deep population establishment.

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It's in a population control establishment and it's worldwide.

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And central to that was indeed you said.

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So in 1966 when they first received their mandates,

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of course it was private interest, the private sector,

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specifically John D. Rockefeller III through the Population Council

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and the Population Council was founded by him and several well-known eugenics,

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including the president of the American Eugenics Society,

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which was Frederick Osborne.

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And so they began to lobby governments because in the past population control wasn't,

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this was not considered a government issue.

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It was something that they would actually dedicate taxes towards.

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And so what they tend to do in the private sector is they will use their influence,

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they will use their power, they will use the shadow government,

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which is to say that you have operatives within corporations,

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within the media, within the governments, just all over the place.

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And they will wage an intense propaganda campaign,

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sometimes the false flag campaign, whatever it takes.

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And then when they get public awareness,

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then they can start to lobby the government to actually go ahead

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and invest taxpayers' money.

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It's very clever.

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So what they did in 1966 eventually they got the office of population

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and their first target was the government of India.

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The government of India is the first government officially to go ahead

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and institute an actual mass population control program,

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where they sterilized, man, it was like, I want to say,

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maybe 12 million of their citizens.

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It was very coercive.

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If you look at the playbook that they utilized and they implemented,

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I mean, you could literally extract it

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and it was used in many ways for the scandemic period.

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We all will give you a financial incentive if you get sterilized.

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Oh, you can't work at your job unless you get sterilized.

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And they were doing just absolutely crazy things to the Indian population

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to get them forcefully sterilized.

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And so what was going on then,

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the reason why they were willing to sign off on this particular program in India

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was under the Prime Minister Indira Gandhi,

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no relation to Mahatma Gandhi.

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The reason why she was willing to do it is for two reasons.

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The first is they were desperate.

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They were in dire straits.

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They had just been in a war with Pakistan and they had a famine

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and they were in desperate need of some kind of foreign aid.

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And so London Johnson said, look, man, and of course his advisors,

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they said, look, there's no way that we're going to give you stuff

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unless you control your population.

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And then the other thing, which I don't know how taken aback they were,

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but Indira Gandhi was like, hell, yes, let's do that.

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Because in India they have the infamous case system

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or they have historically.

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So it's what I always say, man, like this boogeyman of white supremacy,

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it's not fundamentally different to the boogeyman of Islamic terrorism

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and so on, it's oversimplified

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because the real issue at the heart of all of it is elitism

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and it cuts through skin colors, it cuts through government.

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So in India they were willing to play ball.

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And then together that's what they did.

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They began to go ahead and sterilize massive numbers of their population

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and you said was sexual to this campaign.

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They went ahead.

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In fact, there was something known as the Dalkin Shield.

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People can look at this fucking wild.

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D-A-L-K-O-N Shield.

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So the Dalkin Shield, it was actually used in the US, right?

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And four women ended up dying from using this device

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because it was a piece of shit.

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So what does this do?

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The guy that was the head of you said his name was

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Reinhardt Ravenholtz, if I recall correctly.

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This dude goes ahead and gets a deal

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where I think he was able to purchase them for like a discounted price

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because they were unsterilized

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and then he sends them to third world countries.

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Why would you do something like it?

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Because these people are ideologues of eugenics

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and of course for people who are familiar with my work

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the significance of them starting to go kind of on this

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population control crusade

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is that this was in the wake of World War II.

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After what happened in Nazi Germany with their eugenics program

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eugenics which had a lot of

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scientific establishment authority behind it.

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I mean the leading scientists, the leading academics.

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Leading figures within every field.

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After, so attached to it was kind of like this game

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Demic Period.

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Well, this is science, man.

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This is for the betterment of humanity.

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We're just trying to protect you.

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And then when that was discovered that's not the case.

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They started to do something called and I quote

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crypto eugenics.

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And crypto eugenics was when they began to utilize

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all these different clandestine vehicles like you said

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like the population council.

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Like it would have happened in India for example

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the population council was there.

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The Rockefeller Foundation was there.

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The Ford Foundation was there.

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The International Planned Period Federation was there.

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And other organizations still from Sweden and so on

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and they all worked together for this narrative.

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And so when I was saying about the deep states

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what binds them then and it crosses internationally

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and it goes on to this day is this virulent desire

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to not just engage in population control in terms

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of social engineering but actual depopulation.

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And so complimentary to what you said did there

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they also did similar work in multiple other nations.

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So including South Korea, Japan, Indonesia

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all of the countries that are having a decline

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in populations today because very few people know about this.

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It doesn't really get spoken about which blows my mind.

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But the world right now is headed in the direction

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of population extinction because we aren't

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recovering our population.

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I think the figure is 1.1 children or something

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per woman to repeat the population.

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Right now we are actually headed for mass population

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decline and if you begin to see all the different

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countries that had these programs that had these

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strings attached to them like if you want aid

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well you've got to go ahead and do these coercive

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programs. You've got to engage in this propaganda.

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Those were the countries today that are suffering

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from population decline.

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So when I looked at everything and I heard everybody

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talking about like what's going on with this

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and you know the Department of Government Efficiency

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and they're also trying to make it out to be

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just like this simpleton joke of a circus show.

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I don't know if you guys recall that.

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They spoke about oh you know there's a comic book

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and it's LGBTQ. What they don't understand guys

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is when they promote LGBTQ it's not because

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they're trying to think oh this is about

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woke ideology and they believe in it.

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It's a population control method.

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And people will be like that is the most

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ridiculous shit I've ever heard.

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Is it now? The reason why it is implemented

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is because they figured out a long time ago

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that by promoting homosexuality

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and again I said this before in a previous

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podcast I have nothing against people

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who are homosexual. I have homosexual friends

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either you call or you're a dick.

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It's very simple to me alright.

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But by promoting it they found

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because these people are very scientific

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in the administration of the population

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that it can actually promote people not wanting

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to have children. And just to corroborate

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that because I love to give people evidence

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you want to corroborate things with objective

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reality which is there for the truth

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go ahead and look at the Jaffe Memo

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J-A-F-F-E Memo.

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And this was between the vice president

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Frederick Jaffe of Planned Parenthood

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and the president of the population

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council Bernard Barrison.

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And in there in the Jaffe Memo

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very unambiguously not taking

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anything out of context your listeners can go

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and listen to it. They talk about different

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proposals for population control.

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And one of those proposals is to promote

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homosexuality.

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So not that all you said is just this incompetent

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woke promoting

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institution. No it was

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central to the

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global deep state apparatus

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the shadow governments and what

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they effectively did Trump and

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Musk is their administration

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far from exposing it

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they actually covered it up because once

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they see the website guess what you couldn't access

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a website and access a record anymore

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and in addition to not being able to do that

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we now know they also destroyed documents

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yeah man and

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and speaking of that like the transgender

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stuff I like the and all that

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the doge you know what we mentioned

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earlier that that was going after all

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that right like the headlines for in the

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the MAGA right media were like victory

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you know the Elon Musk was

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swinging an axe and or a chainsaw

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trying to be like I'm so laying

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cuz yeah I mean and and I mean I think

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we they cut something like like just in

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the tens of thousands of dollars in that range for

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like a transgender musical and Ireland

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or some stuff or and then

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like a handful of like a bizarre DEI

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programs like they cut

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that we're talking hundreds of thousands of

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dollars here and there which is like pennies

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you know to everybody else

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and of course MAGA like bought it up

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and they bought it hook line and sinker

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and they like they declared

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that like the deep state had been slain

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by Elon Musk and Donald Trump

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but I mean that was basically lies

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of omission right like those

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of us that were paying attention and weren't

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distracted by the low hanging fruit like the

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transgender DEI stuff

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that they they allegedly cut out of the

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USAID you know

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the teeth of USAID like the

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the multi-billion-dollar framework

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that that you know funds regime

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change operations and props up foreign

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dictators and to maintain

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the global status quo that

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wouldn't cut at all that was just moved

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and and put under the State Department

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handed directly to Marco Rubio

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right it effectively

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made it like more centralized and

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probably even less accountable because

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it's not its own entity

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anymore it's just the State Department now

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you know it's like it's

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one of the oldest tricks in the book man

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but you know like

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I guess my question

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is this like so you know

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the this promise of

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deconstruction became like a

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pivot to to consolidation

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and you know you spend years

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dissecting this exact

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patterns of like elite control

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and centralized power that

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makes this kind of sleight of hand possible

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so from

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your perspective as as someone who studies

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this the the history of elitism and

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control like that man why do you think

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like a mass movement

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driven by these very libertarian

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impulses that like to shrink the state like

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like in the wars

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you know drain the swamp

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cut government

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yet they now we see like

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he's starting more of Venezuela the dude

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is completely in bed in the swamp

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and he's launching like one of the

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largest expansions of governments

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government power at least

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and overspending that we've seen

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like before his predecessors

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like what what is the fatal flaw

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and this popular strategy

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that allows the elite

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to execute this bait and switch

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so effectively

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yeah so that's a great question

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and I think for people

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that haven't succumb

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to the tribalism trappings

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man whether it was

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you know the so-called war

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on terror and then the scam

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dynamic period and now with this

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insanity

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essentially the issue from

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the vantage point of climbing

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the mountain of awareness that

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I've climbed that

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is around the turn of

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the 19th century

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the elitist class specifically like

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the Rockefeller interests the organizations

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that were leading the charge in this was

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the Rockefeller Foundation if you want to really study

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so-called deep state politics

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for shadow governments you need to

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look at the history of the Rockefeller Foundation

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that is the premier institute

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and next to them kind of a little brother

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organization with the Ford Foundation

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and then the Carnegie

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philanthropy have also been involved

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in that particular guide and of course it was

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also been involved in depopulation

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but right next to depopulation

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population control programs

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they've taken an unprecedented

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interest in social engineering

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and so at the turn of the 19th century

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what they actually began to do

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was fund what we call

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now the social sciences

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and they made this a very serious

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academic pursuit

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and

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very few people understand what this is about

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you know like

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sociology

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anthropology

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public administration

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you say these terms to the average person

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right even somebody who's relatively

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well researched and they're like

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what the fuck is that I don't know what that means

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essentially these

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are different elements of studying

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society

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and how you can

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either directly condition them

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or how the environment interacts

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with them and so

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that program

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this like a match program the first

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course in sociology was at the University

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of Chicago which was founded by John D. Rockefeller

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junior was a senior junior

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quite quite recall it's funny because

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senior gets all the attention but junior was

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far worse than senior

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and so they began to like make a serious

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study out of this in the truncated

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publication I actually have on

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the free thought project

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the history of elitism or government and population

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control I go through

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some of the scientists that they went ahead

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and funded and study which included

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a guy like John B. Watson

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John B. Watson was also eugenist

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with one of the fathers

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of behaviorism and he

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conducted this really unethical experiment

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they called the little elbow experiments

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I've spoken about it many times in the past

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wouldn't be surprised if I did so in the podcast as well

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I think maybe on the podcast with Don

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actually it comes to my mind I think we spoke about

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that before and what this

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essentially was man you guys are I'm sure

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familiar because it's quite popular worldwide

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the Pavlovian experiments

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on dogs so he was actually

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studying their digestion

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Ivan Pavlov and then he

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saw that when his assistant

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who was tasked with feeding the dogs

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when she was just present

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when she came before them they began to

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salivate but there was no food there

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so why are they salivating and eventually

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he made the connection okay

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they are associating her

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with

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the food with the primal

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desire for eating some food

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and so they begin to salivate

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now if you have a dog you know you grab the leash

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what do they do should they jumping all over the place

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they happy as can be because they know what time it is

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and so we all have this

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you can actually look us up for people who want a bit more of an

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introductory awareness it's called

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associative memory and then

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for a bit of a more academic perspective

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is that neurons that fire together

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wire together and so

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part of all of these different studies that they have

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conducted over the years

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includes classical conditioning

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and so John Watson for example

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what he did is a little Albert experiment

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he said okay I like this idea

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I want to see how I can apply it to human beings

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well he has this little baby

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little Albert and let me

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see if I can teach this baby how to

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become fearful, irrationally fearful

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and so this is how the experiment went

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they put the little baby there

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it was a couple months old

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highly unethical kind of walkies crawling around

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and they're putting all different kinds of stimuli

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and I call it stimuli in front of him

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so it's a burning newspaper and then they put a bunny

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rabbit and then they put a mouse

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and they put all these different things

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excuse me and then they went ahead and they

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tabulated and wrote down

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the observations and the child was fairly

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neutral except for like with the mouse it was playful

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so John Watson being the sick fuck

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that he is he went ahead and said okay

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what I'm going to do is

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I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to give

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the mouse back to the kid because it's like

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the mouse every time this baby tries to

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play with the mouse I'm going to make a horrible

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excruciating noise

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and it's going to make the child scared because

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it's so so loud

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and so every time the lover will try to play with the mouse

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boom make this horrible noise

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and the lover would cry

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and he would cry some more

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and the more repetitive

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and the more habitual he did this

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the baby would cry and cry

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and so eventually

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he didn't have to make the noise anymore he just had to present to the mouse

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that little Albert actually had

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liked before into the equation

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and little Albert would hysterically cry

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of course he doesn't understand

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he's a baby it's unconscious

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and so this kind of methodology

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is one of many many

27:50.890 --> 27:52.590
experience guys experiments

27:52.590 --> 27:54.590
where the elitist class

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have literally studied

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how they can

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manipulate our most primal

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psychology our most

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primal

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biological responses

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and we are they know how

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how they can make us emotionally

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react in an unthinking way

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and so they took it to heart man

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the art of war

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son suit know your enemy they know us

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oh yes algorithm

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algorithmically they know what we're searching for online

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they know

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about our emails they know about

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the ins and outs they know us better than

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we know ourselves

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and so the reason why they are capable of constantly

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doing this

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is because they still

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have a monopoly

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on esoteric psychology on weaponizing psychology

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I'll give you one more

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study before I hand the mic back over

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because it's so interesting

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but it was something called the robbers cave

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experiment

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and this guy was I think his name was

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Sharif Muzavir

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let's see how good I am I think his name was Sharif Muzavir

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something like that

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but people can look it up the robbers cave experiment

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and so with

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a robbers cave experiment

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what these researchers did

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is they got I think it was a bunch of Boy Scouts together

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and they were two teams

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and so what they went ahead is they started to actually

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antagonize each group

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the researchers themselves

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the authorities that are entrusted with

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being benevolent

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and so they started to antagonize these two groups

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against one another and so they were at each other's

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throats

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and then they created an external emergency

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where they would have to unite together

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and so there's just

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countless examples like this man

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and also as I illustrated before

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MKUltra

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which is an umbrella term you obviously your project audit

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operation Bluebird and MKNiomy

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and it just goes on and on

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but that was one massive covert

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endeavor

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into mastering

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mind control, behavioral modification and so on

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through the use of drugs through the use of

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media propaganda techniques and so on

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so the issue

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fundamentally it has to be decoded

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which is why one of the many reasons I'm creating a digital

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school is I need to like help

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empower people with this knowledge

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because once you have the knowledge and the awareness man

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it's actually relatively easy

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to mindfully see it and not get swept up in the

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bullshit

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but when you don't you just little

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albit and you get swept up in the propaganda

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so unfortunately that's what it is man

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they are just 10 steps ahead right now

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but with the rollout

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of social media and the internet and so on and so forth

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yes it has many bad things

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on the good

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end is when it's in the hands of people like us

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and this is the fundamental difference

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between agents of elitism

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and agents of humanity

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is when it's in our hands

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we take this esoteric knowledge

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and we seek to empower

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people so that they may defend

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themselves whereas they take this

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knowledge they hold it for themselves so they can

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weaponize exploit and attack others

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right yeah man

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and you know it's so

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fascinating in a way

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I mean obviously it's fascinating because you know

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for like geeks like us we study this shit

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but like obviously on the other end

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it's incredibly nefarious but like

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you know so like looking at the USAID stuff

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I mean I wrote back in

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what was it February of

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2025

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you know just talking about how a lot of the

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stuff that was getting exposed

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even though it was like super surface level

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it was more so like as you were explaining along

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like the realm of

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you know slight of hand

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carrot stick like focus on this stuff

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but not like the deeper stuff

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it was getting exposed how USAID

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was so incremental

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in so many of these destabilization

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projects with promoting propaganda

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through the

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national endowment for democracy and working with

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CIA and all of these

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front media organizations

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in foreign countries

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including Venezuela as we're seeing right now

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but also in Ukraine and Cuba

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and all over the place where they

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had these so called independent

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radio and news sites

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set up to like

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you know give a voice to the resistant

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population and in reality

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it was all CIA

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you know fomenting

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color revolution regime change

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bullshit and

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you know it really is

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so important for people to understand

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just how deeply

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all of this is tied in

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to like a subconscious

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psychological manipulation it's actually

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I've said for years

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one of the most important things that anyone can do

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is to

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arm themselves with the understanding of

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how psychological warfare works

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like even on a basic level if you just

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like look at it

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one hour or two hour lecture on youtube

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or read one psychological warfare

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manual to classify from the US military

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just getting a basic understanding

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of how they weaponize information

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and subconscious behavioral modification

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is

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such a valuable tool to being

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able to see it

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so that you can better resist against it

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so for listeners take that

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to heart and like really start learning about this stuff

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it's so crucial but

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to more to your point

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with seeing how

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USAID was tied into these

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propaganda efforts that were also

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tied into the eugenics efforts and all

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of these sorts of things

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how far back

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from what you have researched does that

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really go like obviously it predates

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USAID's very

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existence from the Johnson administration

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you know going and goes back to

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MKUltra and goes

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back to Edward Bernays from the 1920s

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and all that sort of stuff but I mean like

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in an integral

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sort of

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continuity in a way

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from

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these sorts of programs

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pushing

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essentially these kinds of narratives to

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to you know foment

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these subtle behavioral

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changes that

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we're seeing today for example

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yeah it's also a good question

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I mean look this stuff

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goes back to ancient history

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because

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the elitist class

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have always relied

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on

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kind of weaponizing

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their understanding

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of human psychology

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against the rest of the population

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and being a parent then one of the things

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I've learned I've always loved to study human nature

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and so

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being a parent I'm very

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attuned to kind of like

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how my little dude operates

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and seeing what he does

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and if you can actually understand the fundamentals

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of how a child operates man

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their behavior, the mood swings

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or whatever it may be

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and how they are very emotional

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you can actually apply that

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introductory concept

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to the whole entire population because we have

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that little child still in us

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and what's also highly significant

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going back to the unconscious

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is that's when you are most programmable

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that's why they call it your formative years

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and so there's a lot of things that happen

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especially in the authoritarian paradigm

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that is

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western society

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and it goes far beyond western society

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let's not pick on one particular

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civilization

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I've lived in multiple countries

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multiple cultures and I can tell you this issues

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all over the place

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but this breeds a lot of

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unconscious irrationality

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and a trickle is done

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it's not usually an organic happening

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so what I mean by that is yes there will be some kind of authoritarian figure

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a government figure

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and then they have a vested interest to promote propaganda

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that then gets inculcated and encrusted

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in people's minds

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but you go all the way back to like let's say ancient Rome

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I love using ancient Rome as an example

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because historically it's so unpointed

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in so many ways

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but you look at the rise of Augustus Caesar

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so the first Caesar

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the higher to Julius Caesar

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this dude was so skilled

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excuse me

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had propaganda and he went ahead

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and he had the

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most highly respected poets

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write publications

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glorify him and he was like the savior of Rome

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and in Rome they had a lot of

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respect

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and glorification of Greek culture

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that had come before them

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and so they actually went ahead

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and they wrote

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I think it was a visual

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I can't remember specifically who the author was

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but he wrote a publication

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that was

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very much similar to

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the one that came from Greece

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from Homer which was the Alir

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and the guy I think his name was

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Virgil actually if I recall correctly

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he wrote something called the Alir

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and in there it's very much

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the same so it's this epic story

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you can almost think of it as one of the

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most revered films that are

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now one of the most revered movies

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and then he

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actually made the lead character

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Augustine

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and in this way he used that associate

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of memory and this is also why

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if you go back to the past on the coinage

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why do these

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rulers always put themselves in the coinage

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why everybody loves money baby

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that's another way to target the associate

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of memory

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they also constantly associated themselves with the gods

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part of being a Roman

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emperor was you will

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associate yourself with the gods this is something the Egyptians did as well

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and why

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because if they can I mean even today

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we have a pope he does the same thing he's the divine

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representative of God

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what does Israel do oh we are the chosen people man

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go read that book of it

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and why do they do that because it targets

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your associate of memory

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and it pacifies your critical thinking

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and so you are more likely to acquiesce

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and conform and obey

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and so this has been going on for just

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forever man but it's been more refined

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again specifically going back to like the turn

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of the 19th century

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that's when they really began to say okay we're gonna

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take this and we're gonna turn it into science

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I'll give you another really interesting character

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man that is one of the proverbial architects

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of this matrix which

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I just don't really hear anybody talking

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about which is Francis Bacon

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Francis Bacon was in the political court

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of the queen in England

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and this dude and he was

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just a leading thinker really really brilliant guy

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some people will speculate that he is actually

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the person behind Shakespeare's writing

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he was a clever dude man

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and this guy

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apart from introducing a kind of

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he was kind of like a lawyer also for the queen

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this guy wrote a book

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called

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The New Atlantis

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and this is a whole other rabbit hole so I don't want to get too deep

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down this one but there's something that a lot

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of the western establishment of Beisbar

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which is known as Atlantisism

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and in this book

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he basically details

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it's a fictional book but of course

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as the expression goes

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fiction is the truth

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inside the lie

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so people produce a fictional account

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but they're actually trying to tell some kind of the truth

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they're trying to illuminate something else

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and in this publication he

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talks about creating a shadow government

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called Solomon's House

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and it will be a technocratic society

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and yes there will be traditional

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governing authorities and the people will

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adhere to what they say but these are

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really figureheads

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and there will be a scientific administration

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of the population and it goes way beyond that

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it's really it's like a blueprint

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the royal society was inspired

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by that book by this guy's work

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so he's a big boy

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and basically this is in modern history man

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they took the ideas

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that have gone on for centuries

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and centuries and they just refined them

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and specifically with the rise of the social sciences

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I would say above

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and beyond all else when they really began to say

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okay we're going to insert this into the academic

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curriculum of the leading

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school institutions

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and we're going to teach

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social engineering

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so if you look at let's say

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somebody like Klaus Schwab

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he was involved in public administration

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like if you start to look at the rap sheets

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of these people they come oftentimes

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from a social science background

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and social science just

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you know it's a well-earned term

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more often than not it means social engineering

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and there's one other thing before I do

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hand it back over

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I felt like I didn't do it proper justice

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to Matt's question and I just want to touch on it

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very quickly I won't get hung up on it too much

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but the significance of the little Albert experiment

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is what they learned

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is you can take something that somebody may even like

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and then

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through a fear

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some kind of strong emotional fear

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you can program them

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by pairing the two together to now associate

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that object

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in his case the mouse and then you become fearful of it

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so for those who do recall

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I know this is way back in the day

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for what happened with 9-11

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well despite the fact that

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the alleged

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emphasis on alleged hijackers

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are coming from Saudi Arabia

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it was consistently

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if you go back now

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if people go back and look at the transcripts of the speeches of George W. Bush

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and he's the little click

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of clowns

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if you look at their transcripts

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they would

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dozens and dozens of times

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associate Iraq, Al Qaeda

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and 9-11 why

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because they are targeting your associate of memory

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Trump administration does the same thing with immigration

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you know

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it's just a consistent theme

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it's even let's say with this whole woke

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shit right

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how many of you have seriously encountered somebody

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who's like oh you will call me by my pronouns

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I'll fucking kill you

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how many people have really encountered somebody like that

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I myself have never

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I've never brother

41:25.430 --> 41:27.050
right but what happens

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that shit's in your face 24-7

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alright why

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because this is going to emotionally trigger you

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and it's going to target your associate of memory

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and now all you have to do is go on twitter

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and I still call it twitter because X is fucking

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it's just such a silly name to me

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and if you go on there

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what happens

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what do you see

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you see fucking people talking about it as if everybody on the left

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is promoting this shit

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that's all of them then

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no you have been brainwashed my dude

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you have been targeted

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with a highly evocative

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that is something that targets your most primal

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being

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like this person is attacking me

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right even when there's a supposed to be

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a new segment

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where two people are exchanging

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in their views

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conventionally what is it it's a fucking shouting match

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because they are trying to have a trauma based mind control

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we have mirror neurons

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so I mean I don't want to get too hung up on it

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but that's one of the methodologies they constantly

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will pay a thing

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so also with COVID-19

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you guys may remember

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this campdemy period

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oh so you saying we should kill granny

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what the fuck is wrong with you

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why you triggered so much

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we don't have to lock down people

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and send half a billion people into poverty

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and 130 million into starvation

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and you know just very sensible things

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in social isolation people are going to kill themselves

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and have heart attacks and blah blah blah

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because of the economic crisis

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but that's all you do is you take something

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that is highly emotionally triggering

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you pair it with something else

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and then through repetition

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which is the most introductory method of mind control

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you can go ahead

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and control the population

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yeah and you know I actually had

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you know before I let Jason do his follow-up

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I just wanted to pop in and mention

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I actually had an experience with this

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myself just

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about a week ago

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so I did an appearance on

43:17.030 --> 43:18.330
Info Wars the War Room

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with my friend Christon T. Harris

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who was hosting that day

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and he had me on talking about Venezuela

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and you know of course I'm providing my foreign policy analysis

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what the US government is lying about

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what the actual motivations are

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for intervention and regime change

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and all that sort of stuff

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and of course Info Wars has a notoriously

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right-wing audience especially since

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Jones started you know basically shilling out

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for Donald Trump and you know abandoning

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all of his previous principles

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in favor of the right-wing grift

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so I think Ben not to interrupt you

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but I think that he was

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covertly put on Trump's payroll

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oh yeah oh I agree absolutely

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but anyway so I was doing that show

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and then afterwards

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and because of course I talk about

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colonialism and the pervasiveness

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of imperialism in my foreign policy

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analysis because that is an accurate

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analysis of what's happening

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I got

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these people a couple of them in the comments

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talking about oh this guy's

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just a fat communist

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he doesn't know what he's talking about

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see and the first one

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was like

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oh this guy's a communist because he used the word

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imperialism that's one of their favorite

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words why is he even on the show

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and so like it's their selective

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programming of associating

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criticism of empire

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with communism

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that has brainwashed them into that

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section of

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the dyadic

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I just wanted to bring that up because

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that was a real lived experience that I had

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just like just a week ago and you were just talking

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about the same thing yeah 100% man

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I saw that Don

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I saw that man I had to

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leave a couple of choice tweets

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the response to those people as well and

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I got your back bro but

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yeah great great shit

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Gavin this is amazing conversation

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this is you know exactly why

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you've been on the podcast so many times

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and I just want to plug

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a podcast we did a couple weeks

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ago with Jacob Johnson

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from rise to liberty who

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is really good on all this stuff the mind

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control techniques we really got into

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you know deep territory

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they're talking about a lot of the different

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techniques so if this is something that

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interests you guys definitely listen to that

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podcast as well but it does

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seem like when you

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talk about this stuff it really does highlight

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that as much as things change the

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playbook that the ruling class playbook

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always stays the same you know and it

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also at least for me kind of

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highlights how deep

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this technocratic agenda really

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goes and how long it's been in swing

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for I think it's much longer than

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most people realize maybe including myself

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but I know we are getting

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low on time here I have a bit

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of a white pill question of my own I

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guess of course Matt has one

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as well but I wanted to mention

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here because I know you said something

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about it Gavin that you had written a

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publication entitled a history of

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elitism world government and population control

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I think it was February

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of 2023 guys so check out

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that publication that Gavin

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has written I think he'll probably share

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more about that at the end here but he also

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did a podcast with us in April

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of that year 2023

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where we got into even more detail about a

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lot of this stuff so definitely worth

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listening definitely worth checking

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out now seeing that you

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had mentioned that you are creating a school

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here and

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it does feel like in many

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ways today's social

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media landscape is just

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overwhelming right I mean there's

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so many content creators

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it's saturated with

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quote influencers

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organizations everybody's competing for our eyeballs

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right and it's probably

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more so than any time in history

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it's the flavor of the

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the weak news the personal branding

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the self promotion

46:58.570 --> 47:01.050
the politically charged rage bait

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the signal to noise

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ratio is pretty brutal right and

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it's becoming harder and harder to really

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find people that are not only

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intelligent authentic but actually worth

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learning from like people who actually

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educate us and expand

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our perspectives and offer something

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deeper than just these hot take

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dopamine hits but

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I know you've invested thousands of hours

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into these topics and I wanted

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to ask how do we not become

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these little albers right like how do we

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help younger generations or anybody

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really hungry to self educate

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how do they navigate the digital chaos

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and find quality

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content that's actually worth their time

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how do we separate all the noise

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from the news and the real

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research from the tiktok videos and

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flavor of the week BS

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for real knowledge and philosophy and

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especially in the age of AI

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so that's a fantastic question

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and

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the first thing that comes to my mind

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just listening to you

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provide that perspective and that

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commentary and the insights

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is worldwide ever since this game

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period which was also a clear way to

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migrate people online

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very few people know it from the western

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world but at that time I think around half

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the world's population still wasn't online

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but ever since then

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massive numbers hundreds of millions

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of more people and are coming online

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in fact billions and this also

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is now

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giving the elitist class

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two

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really good

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options and the first

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is demographics that traditionally

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were very difficult to get to

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so people living off great

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people that are living in more ancient cultures

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now they're getting the internet

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and unlike in the west where there's been

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2, 3, 4 decades

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for us to

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watch it slowly develop

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these people have now been

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given a product

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that is damn near artificial

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intelligence on a level

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that is you know corresponds to

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an embodiment of a sentient being

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and it's in the hands

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of the enemy

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like let's be unambiguous

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let's not play this bullshit game

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these people they know we are the enemy

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that's why they target us for population control

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that's why they have

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all this bullshit

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in the food and just so many methodologies

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they employ so let's call

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a spade a spade and the other thing that's

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really good the second thing that they do is

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before they did this massive digital

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migration they ensure

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that they got control of the internet

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and now there's been this massive

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facelift of what

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actually represents

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anti-establishment

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and I don't know if you guys may recall

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I actually spoke about this Jason

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you know ages ago then when you put together

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you and Derek put together that event

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where I spoke about how the time we

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living through corresponds

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to the Protestant Reformation

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and what was the Protestant Reformation

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well the Roman Catholic Church that was the

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predominant establishment of the time

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under Pope Leo the 10th

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he was from the powerful banking family

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the Medici family

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and they were doing all kinds of corrupt shit

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and so here comes this guy Martin Luther

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and Martin Luther says man you guys are corrupt as shit

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it was my 95 thesis, 95 critiques of the paper seat

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somehow it gets spread

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right we don't actually know who spread it

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but what we do know is it coincided with

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the technological

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innovation of the printing press

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and so this resulted in rebellions

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all around Europe it was wild

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so this was one of the

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biggest revolutions in modern history

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but something that gets overlooked

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and all of that is the Protestant Reformation

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which comes from the word protest

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to protest the Catholic Church

50:41.130 --> 50:42.450
it was hijacked

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by a new kind of establishment

50:44.750 --> 50:46.090
it was a facelift

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and so Martin Luther in a

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move of extraordinary hypocrisy

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went ahead and sided with the new establishment

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and then this gave rise eventually to of course

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pressure, the military power and

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impression worked very closely with

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the US and just

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goes on and on and on

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but the significance

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is that there was something called

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the radical reformation

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that's been largely lost to the sense

51:12.670 --> 51:14.370
of time of the Protestant Reformation

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and you know who these dudes were

51:16.270 --> 51:18.150
they were the people that was talking about

51:18.930 --> 51:20.530
man we need just self-governance

51:20.530 --> 51:21.570
we don't need new rulers

51:22.530 --> 51:23.430
let's be autonomous

51:24.210 --> 51:26.070
let's live off the land, why do we need a government

51:26.070 --> 51:27.050
why do we have to do this

51:27.550 --> 51:29.390
well a lot of them got assassinated

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and if they didn't get assassinated their history got destroyed

51:32.070 --> 51:34.730
and so we are living through a second kind

51:35.510 --> 51:36.890
of a Protestant Reformation

51:37.590 --> 51:38.990
but we had the opportunity

51:38.990 --> 51:40.310
if we played very skillfully

51:40.310 --> 51:41.190
and very cleverly

51:42.290 --> 51:44.370
to create a new narrative and change things

51:44.370 --> 51:45.510
but that's their goal

51:46.210 --> 51:47.230
so that's what's going on

51:47.230 --> 51:50.010
there's a massive hacking of the system

51:50.010 --> 51:52.510
as Gilman Louis would probably say

51:52.510 --> 51:54.250
and I think he's actually been an architect

51:54.250 --> 51:55.190
behind some of that

51:55.190 --> 51:58.410
they saw a system, they hacked it

51:58.410 --> 52:00.350
which is to say you create a new reality

52:00.350 --> 52:02.250
for people which is a lot of this

52:02.250 --> 52:03.850
libertarian rhetoric

52:03.850 --> 52:06.530
because if you actually look at the data

52:07.110 --> 52:08.570
and a lot of the surveys

52:08.570 --> 52:10.950
just prior to Donald Trump rising up

52:10.950 --> 52:12.290
first of all we know that the biggest

52:13.030 --> 52:13.910
political party

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in the US was not

52:16.270 --> 52:18.330
Democrats or Republicans, it was independence

52:19.050 --> 52:20.190
people were sick of the bullshit

52:20.190 --> 52:22.010
and guess what was happening with the libertarian

52:22.010 --> 52:22.750
and it was rising

52:24.390 --> 52:26.570
Peter Thiel, he's a libertarian

52:27.090 --> 52:27.970
cool story bro

52:27.970 --> 52:30.330
like your partner, he's a libertarian dude

52:30.330 --> 52:31.910
cool story bro

52:31.910 --> 52:33.330
Elon Musk man, he's hip

52:33.330 --> 52:35.630
look at fucking Mark Zuckerberg

52:35.630 --> 52:37.250
and so

52:38.650 --> 52:40.470
sorry I went on a bit of a rant there

52:40.470 --> 52:40.710
but

52:41.410 --> 52:43.430
in relation to your particular question

52:44.670 --> 52:45.370
there's not

52:45.370 --> 52:47.550
an evenly distributed

52:47.550 --> 52:48.930
moral responsibility

52:49.590 --> 52:51.690
and what I mean by that is those who are aware

52:51.690 --> 52:52.650
as the expression goes

52:52.650 --> 52:56.130
those who have the privilege to know

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have the duty to act

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and so we are in a position gentlemen

53:00.210 --> 53:01.330
where we are aware

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and that puts us in a position where we have a moral

53:03.850 --> 53:06.050
responsibility to try to take some positive action

53:06.050 --> 53:07.790
because the rest of these populations

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like the people that are living with great old children

53:10.250 --> 53:11.650
they are not mentally

53:11.650 --> 53:14.290
equipped to deal with this machine

53:14.850 --> 53:16.330
this machine is a result

53:16.330 --> 53:17.450
of thousands of years

53:18.070 --> 53:19.870
of sophisticated social engineering

53:19.870 --> 53:21.970
it's not to say that it's all bad but it's been

53:21.970 --> 53:23.730
weaponized and yes it is

53:23.730 --> 53:24.990
incredibly dangerous, I

53:26.010 --> 53:27.470
like I said I've been in many cultures

53:27.470 --> 53:29.750
and I'm young in the Philippines and there's lots of tribal

53:29.750 --> 53:31.770
communities, you've seen two-year-olds, three-olds

53:31.770 --> 53:33.310
unrestricted access to the internet

53:33.310 --> 53:35.990
they've got their own phone, that's fucking insane

53:35.990 --> 53:37.210
but they don't know

53:37.740 --> 53:40.130
because nobody's informing them, nobody's educating them

53:40.130 --> 53:41.570
and how do you educate them

53:41.570 --> 53:43.550
when I was living up there in the mountain

53:43.550 --> 53:45.510
with the tribes and stuff I'm trying to explain to them

53:45.510 --> 53:47.770
listen man there's a wall in this little phone

53:47.770 --> 53:49.770
that's bigger than the entire world you see out here

53:50.290 --> 53:51.910
that's a difficult task

53:51.910 --> 53:52.910
to undertake right

53:54.490 --> 53:55.750
now the very good

53:55.750 --> 53:57.710
thing in all of this is we're not alone guys

53:58.190 --> 53:59.670
and what I mean by we're not alone

53:59.670 --> 54:01.850
is something someone somehow

54:01.850 --> 54:02.870
we were created

54:02.870 --> 54:05.490
and I've very closely analyzed

54:05.490 --> 54:06.510
the human blueprint

54:06.510 --> 54:09.610
we have all the things we need

54:09.610 --> 54:10.990
to be revolutionary

54:10.990 --> 54:12.910
we are revolutionary beings

54:13.310 --> 54:14.730
can you qualify there Gavin

54:14.730 --> 54:17.250
we are innately curious which is

54:17.250 --> 54:18.790
why this, why that

54:18.790 --> 54:20.530
why is this guy a blue daddy

54:20.530 --> 54:21.750
and all that shit

54:21.750 --> 54:24.090
which is question everything

54:24.090 --> 54:26.430
and then we are creative

54:26.430 --> 54:27.770
wild imagination

54:27.770 --> 54:29.530
what is the source of creativity

54:30.130 --> 54:31.690
how do the Wright brothers build a plane

54:32.190 --> 54:33.370
high school dropouts

54:33.870 --> 54:35.570
well they didn't learn about this shit in school

54:35.570 --> 54:36.950
they used their imagination

54:36.950 --> 54:39.550
every creative innovation is from the imagination

54:40.230 --> 54:42.690
so we're not alone in that particular regard

54:42.690 --> 54:44.690
and I believe that what's going on in this world

54:45.310 --> 54:46.510
it's a bit more spiritual

54:46.510 --> 54:48.550
I suppose we can have that discussion another day

54:48.550 --> 54:50.390
but we have a fail

54:50.390 --> 54:52.430
safe inside of us for these times

54:52.430 --> 54:54.050
we don't know the potential

54:54.050 --> 54:54.990
of human beings

54:54.990 --> 54:56.910
and every time they push us harder

54:56.910 --> 54:59.690
we have to push deeper inside of ourselves

54:59.690 --> 55:01.650
which means we have to tap into our resources

55:02.130 --> 55:03.770
but for me the digital

55:03.770 --> 55:05.930
category is essentially my answer to that question

55:05.930 --> 55:07.930
how do we

55:07.930 --> 55:10.050
provide people with something more meaningful

55:10.790 --> 55:12.390
because you can do commentary

55:12.950 --> 55:13.770
and you can

55:14.570 --> 55:15.610
engage in analytics

55:15.610 --> 55:17.430
which is to say you analyze what's going on

55:17.430 --> 55:19.790
and it's absolutely imperative that is the good work

55:19.790 --> 55:22.090
to take this and say you have a puzzle of the piece

55:22.090 --> 55:23.790
some people spend their entire lives

55:23.790 --> 55:25.610
analyzing one puzzle of the piece

55:25.610 --> 55:27.550
but that fucking puzzle of the piece is instrumental

55:27.550 --> 55:29.470
to the greater project

55:30.090 --> 55:31.710
of disillusioning and subsequently

55:31.710 --> 55:33.030
awakening humanity

55:33.990 --> 55:34.450
but

55:35.090 --> 55:37.590
we each need to recognize why am I here

55:37.590 --> 55:40.070
what is my blueprint what can I offer

55:40.070 --> 55:41.770
am I crazy fucking alive

55:41.770 --> 55:44.470
coming from the gutter to where I am today

55:44.470 --> 55:46.150
and all the struggling and this and that

55:46.150 --> 55:47.930
and the studying and so on and so forth

55:47.930 --> 55:49.250
it has put me

55:49.250 --> 55:51.030
it has qualified me

55:51.030 --> 55:53.210
it has given me the authority

55:53.210 --> 55:54.970
to go ahead now

55:54.970 --> 55:57.490
and import my knowledge and my insights

55:57.490 --> 55:59.810
and the awareness and the truth

55:59.810 --> 56:02.390
that will turn people into truth warriors

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and will equip them

56:04.350 --> 56:06.310
to protect themselves and defend themselves

56:06.310 --> 56:08.310
against this onslaught of deception

56:08.310 --> 56:10.590
because what people really need

56:10.590 --> 56:11.970
is they need awareness

56:11.970 --> 56:14.070
they need knowledge they need truth

56:14.070 --> 56:16.150
but that has to start with just

56:16.150 --> 56:18.070
introductory foundational mechanism

56:18.070 --> 56:19.470
if you provide commentaries

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it's analogous in corresponds to

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if you give a man a fish

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he will eat for a day but if you teach

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a man to fish

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he will be able to feed himself

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and many others for the rest of his life

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absolutely brother and you know I just

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wanted to you know pop in

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and just to make one mention of thing

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right before Matt wraps things up

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because you were talking about the ways

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in which the Protestant Reformation

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and subsequent movements were used

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to sort of socially engineer

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and psychologically control people

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and I just thought it was worth pointing out

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just a few days ago actually

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on November 28th we published this piece

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on freethoughtproject.com

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that was something that

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completely blew my mind that I had

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nothing you know no idea about

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that just happened to randomly find this

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information in this author that wrote about it

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the article is called

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revealed the CIA's Pentecostal Cyop

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in Latin America to crush liberation

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theology which basically

57:15.690 --> 57:17.690
the author goes into discussing

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and then providing a bunch of sources

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to corroborate

57:21.590 --> 57:23.750
basically what was happening

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like right around the time of the Cold War

57:25.570 --> 57:27.090
in Central and Latin America

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was that Catholicism

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was developing in these small

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communities of what was essentially being

57:33.550 --> 57:35.310
called liberation theology is

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essentially it's a type of Catholicism

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that was helping people to realize

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like you don't need US structure

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intervening in Central America

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that you know

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sort of a spiritual empowerment

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toward their own self-determination

57:48.990 --> 57:51.470
to take back Latin America from the colonial powers

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and because this started to be

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such a problem for

57:55.090 --> 57:57.530
the western powers and the corporate

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Wall Street structure and the CIA

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basically what they did was that the CIA

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infiltrated a whole bunch of these

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what do you call them

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these Presbyterian and Pentecostal

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spiritual movements

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and mission groups and whatnot

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and used them basically

58:14.170 --> 58:16.110
as a launch pad to push

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like Pentecostal

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theology in Central and Latin America

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as a way of combating that liberation

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theology and making

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the people of Central

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and Latin America more subservient

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to a western colonial dominated

58:30.610 --> 58:32.270
governmental structure

58:32.270 --> 58:34.330
and I just thought that was

58:34.330 --> 58:36.670
super fascinating and relevant to what you were talking about

58:36.670 --> 58:38.190
100% brother and

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you know this shit is ubiquitous man

58:40.330 --> 58:42.070
we didn't even get a chance to actually

58:42.070 --> 58:44.250
jump into this so called new cold war

58:44.250 --> 58:46.070
and going back to

58:46.070 --> 58:48.070
what Jason was telling people to look

58:48.070 --> 58:50.410
into the publication I wrote for the free thought project

58:50.410 --> 58:51.730
or a truncated version

58:51.730 --> 58:53.790
I addressed how what's going on now

58:53.790 --> 58:55.190
this so called cold war

58:55.770 --> 58:58.010
is very similar to the first one and what happened

58:58.010 --> 58:59.230
with the first one people don't know

58:59.230 --> 59:01.150
but it was very much manufactured

59:01.150 --> 59:03.490
you know you got people members of the council

59:03.490 --> 59:06.130
were funding both sides and they were doing it strategically

59:06.130 --> 59:07.890
because of one of the things you're mentioning now

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which is

59:10.590 --> 59:12.050
there's been a continuation

59:12.050 --> 59:13.790
people don't like the word colonialism

59:13.790 --> 59:16.250
because we've also been very much associated with

59:16.250 --> 59:18.030
bad white man but it's more

59:18.030 --> 59:19.070
complex than that right

59:19.710 --> 59:21.550
again this is an elitist enterprise

59:22.190 --> 59:24.070
and historically when the common

59:24.070 --> 59:26.050
people of let's say a western

59:26.050 --> 59:27.950
nation you can look at the opium wars

59:27.950 --> 59:29.990
let's say what was going on there when the UK

59:29.990 --> 59:32.350
the common people became aware what was going on

59:32.350 --> 59:34.110
what did they do they protested the government

59:34.110 --> 59:35.710
just like people protested

59:35.710 --> 59:37.110
the Iraq invasion

59:37.690 --> 59:39.450
governments don't give a shit they do what they want

59:39.450 --> 59:41.050
so why is it that when history gets written

59:41.050 --> 59:42.770
it has to be branded on the entire people

59:42.770 --> 59:44.210
so people that's why they get defensive

59:44.210 --> 59:46.670
and the good thing is you know you must never take a person

59:46.670 --> 59:47.750
they don't know who you are

59:47.750 --> 59:50.370
and they unfortunately don't know why they're so reactive

59:51.610 --> 59:53.830
but about the whole colonialism thing

59:53.830 --> 59:54.590
and imperialism

59:55.710 --> 59:57.670
this is really fascinating man

59:57.670 --> 01:00:00.030
but the creation of the League of Nations

01:00:00.030 --> 01:00:01.730
which was the predecessor to the UN

01:00:01.730 --> 01:00:03.510
and the creation of the UN were both

01:00:03.510 --> 01:00:05.930
specifically designed at the highest levels

01:00:05.930 --> 01:00:07.330
for that purpose

01:00:07.330 --> 01:00:10.050
for neo-colonialism believe it or not

01:00:10.050 --> 01:00:11.510
it's fucking wild man so

01:00:12.330 --> 01:00:13.750
it's what fundamentally

01:00:13.750 --> 01:00:15.470
goes on even as talking about

01:00:15.470 --> 01:00:17.630
with Peter Thiel and

01:00:17.630 --> 01:00:19.910
Gilman Louis I know Jason you've

01:00:19.910 --> 01:00:20.870
done some good work on that

01:00:21.430 --> 01:00:23.650
and you also had that great podcast

01:00:23.650 --> 01:00:25.930
with Barry Brown which we recommend people check

01:00:25.930 --> 01:00:26.550
that one out too

01:00:27.630 --> 01:00:29.830
you have this facelift going on

01:00:29.830 --> 01:00:32.150
and what I see historically man

01:00:32.150 --> 01:00:34.070
it's just a constant rebranding

01:00:34.070 --> 01:00:36.130
just over and over and over

01:00:36.130 --> 01:00:37.410
and it's like a reciprocal

01:00:38.150 --> 01:00:39.610
relationship in a toxic way

01:00:39.610 --> 01:00:41.450
so you have the immune system of humanity

01:00:41.450 --> 01:00:43.430
and then you have this parasitical

01:00:44.470 --> 01:00:45.350
invasive elitism

01:00:45.350 --> 01:00:47.870
and then they're learning from each other and they try to adapt

01:00:47.870 --> 01:00:49.050
and one tries to up the other

01:00:49.690 --> 01:00:52.010
but hopefully one day we can maybe even

01:00:52.010 --> 01:00:53.790
address that because that is one hell

01:00:53.790 --> 01:00:54.890
of a rabbit hole

01:00:55.970 --> 01:00:58.590
absolutely man quite like this show was

01:00:58.590 --> 01:01:00.670
I just realized that an hour

01:01:00.670 --> 01:01:01.770
flew by already man

01:01:01.770 --> 01:01:04.550
like they always do every time you've come on this podcast

01:01:04.550 --> 01:01:06.590
man because your replies

01:01:06.590 --> 01:01:08.010
are just they're

01:01:08.010 --> 01:01:09.770
interesting as fuck dude

01:01:09.770 --> 01:01:12.430
it's just I'm like I'm just listening

01:01:12.430 --> 01:01:14.150
on edge you know and yeah

01:01:14.150 --> 01:01:16.050
I know that you know this

01:01:16.370 --> 01:01:18.070
the elite's use of

01:01:18.410 --> 01:01:20.150
psychological warfare you know

01:01:20.150 --> 01:01:22.090
this constant Hegelian dialectic

01:01:22.090 --> 01:01:23.230
the fear the division

01:01:23.230 --> 01:01:26.510
it certainly can seem incredibly bleak

01:01:26.510 --> 01:01:28.250
you know like but

01:01:28.250 --> 01:01:29.890
you know Jason's point earlier

01:01:30.350 --> 01:01:31.870
calling you a human encyclopedia

01:01:32.890 --> 01:01:34.170
he's right dude

01:01:34.170 --> 01:01:36.210
you started at like in the

01:01:36.210 --> 01:01:38.470
1900s and you jumped all the way back to the Roman

01:01:38.470 --> 01:01:40.130
Empire and you covered everything in between

01:01:40.130 --> 01:01:42.290
dude your dedication and

01:01:42.290 --> 01:01:44.570
ability to recall this information

01:01:44.570 --> 01:01:46.110
just so candidly

01:01:46.110 --> 01:01:48.150
is incredible dude

01:01:48.150 --> 01:01:50.430
I mean and that's an understatement

01:01:50.430 --> 01:01:52.530
you know you really are an inspiration to me

01:01:52.530 --> 01:01:54.350
and so many others dude and it's

01:01:54.350 --> 01:01:55.570
likewise man likewise

01:01:56.030 --> 01:01:58.370
oh yeah for sure man but I mean it really

01:01:58.370 --> 01:02:00.110
is an honor to work alongside with you and

01:02:00.110 --> 01:02:01.930
and now that we are doing that you know like

01:02:01.930 --> 01:02:04.230
Jason mentioned the beginning of the show you're making

01:02:04.230 --> 01:02:05.850
the videos for the podcast and

01:02:05.850 --> 01:02:08.250
it's really cool to be able to deal like talk with

01:02:08.250 --> 01:02:10.310
you daily man and or almost like

01:02:10.310 --> 01:02:11.410
that you know almost daily

01:02:12.290 --> 01:02:14.490
it's great dude and I really

01:02:14.490 --> 01:02:15.470
appreciate it so

01:02:16.410 --> 01:02:18.330
you know before we go like we do like

01:02:18.330 --> 01:02:20.410
to end on a white pill but the kind of subject matter

01:02:20.410 --> 01:02:22.410
that we started already Jason already asked

01:02:22.410 --> 01:02:24.390
a white pill but I think this subject matter

01:02:24.390 --> 01:02:25.930
might deserve two of them so

01:02:25.930 --> 01:02:27.810
we're going to do a second one for

01:02:28.330 --> 01:02:29.590
this podcast man

01:02:30.310 --> 01:02:32.330
so I know like the key

01:02:32.330 --> 01:02:34.110
to fighting the psychological warfare

01:02:34.110 --> 01:02:36.030
is to equip the mind with

01:02:36.030 --> 01:02:37.950
truth and tools you know

01:02:37.950 --> 01:02:40.430
we can't accept selling out

01:02:40.430 --> 01:02:41.970
we have to fight back with knowledge

01:02:41.970 --> 01:02:44.350
and like you said we have to create our

01:02:44.350 --> 01:02:46.070
own narrative or our new reality

01:02:46.070 --> 01:02:47.930
and let people accept this

01:02:47.930 --> 01:02:50.530
and you're launching something truly

01:02:50.530 --> 01:02:52.550
special to help people do exactly that right

01:02:52.550 --> 01:02:54.370
it's called the truth warrior academy

01:02:54.370 --> 01:02:56.530
and I think you mentioned that the first

01:02:56.530 --> 01:02:58.230
course was the was called

01:02:58.230 --> 01:03:00.530
decoding the truth so like for those

01:03:00.530 --> 01:03:02.750
who feel like the sense of deep hopelessness

01:03:02.750 --> 01:03:04.610
or maybe they're on the verge

01:03:04.610 --> 01:03:06.550
of being blackpilled or something after they see

01:03:06.550 --> 01:03:08.370
the breakdown and the sheer scale

01:03:08.370 --> 01:03:10.470
the system like how would

01:03:10.470 --> 01:03:12.210
the truth warrior academy and

01:03:12.210 --> 01:03:14.350
and this new course be like the

01:03:14.350 --> 01:03:16.390
definitive move like the place

01:03:16.390 --> 01:03:18.410
where people can go today to regain their

01:03:18.410 --> 01:03:20.650
agency and equip themselves

01:03:20.650 --> 01:03:22.510
to fight back against the psychological

01:03:23.150 --> 01:03:24.250
architecture of control

01:03:24.250 --> 01:03:26.510
first off man thank you so much for the kind

01:03:26.510 --> 01:03:28.050
words I've got as you know I've said

01:03:28.050 --> 01:03:30.530
repeatedly yeah I've got the greatest reverence

01:03:30.530 --> 01:03:32.530
for you guys man you guys are the real deal

01:03:32.530 --> 01:03:34.270
you've been doing for such a long time

01:03:35.850 --> 01:03:36.730
yeah honestly

01:03:36.730 --> 01:03:38.570
I've also learned a lot from

01:03:38.570 --> 01:03:40.190
all of you by the way you know

01:03:40.190 --> 01:03:42.450
through your articles and doing the podcast

01:03:42.450 --> 01:03:44.430
that's one of the great benefits of actually

01:03:44.430 --> 01:03:45.790
editing those one-minute reels

01:03:46.250 --> 01:03:47.470
is I have to

01:03:48.250 --> 01:03:49.970
digest what's being said and so

01:03:49.970 --> 01:03:51.930
I'll rewind it and I'll listen again and I'll listen

01:03:51.930 --> 01:03:53.770
again and so I've actually learned new shit

01:03:53.770 --> 01:03:55.870
that I didn't know before so I appreciate that

01:03:55.870 --> 01:03:58.010
and it's reciprocated right back at you

01:03:58.010 --> 01:03:59.850
man but in terms of

01:04:00.390 --> 01:04:01.950
how can this contribute towards

01:04:01.950 --> 01:04:03.470
people so

01:04:03.930 --> 01:04:06.070
a little bit from our own personal story man

01:04:06.590 --> 01:04:07.030
is

01:04:07.730 --> 01:04:09.170
way way way back in the day

01:04:09.910 --> 01:04:11.750
I had and I think

01:04:11.750 --> 01:04:13.410
you may have too much I might be

01:04:13.410 --> 01:04:14.970
forgive me for maybe putting

01:04:14.970 --> 01:04:17.290
words in your mouth or piece

01:04:17.290 --> 01:04:19.290
the puzzle together incorrectly

01:04:20.050 --> 01:04:21.510
but when I was young

01:04:21.510 --> 01:04:23.290
I had horrible PTSD man

01:04:23.290 --> 01:04:25.530
I had crippling anxiety

01:04:26.530 --> 01:04:27.450
and it's I had

01:04:27.450 --> 01:04:29.270
a crazy childhood I come from a really

01:04:29.270 --> 01:04:31.310
crazy background but one story short

01:04:31.310 --> 01:04:33.370
I got to a place in a position

01:04:33.370 --> 01:04:35.470
mentally well I said fuck man

01:04:35.470 --> 01:04:37.390
I can't I don't want to live

01:04:37.390 --> 01:04:39.190
anymore and I had suicidal

01:04:39.190 --> 01:04:41.210
thoughts now I wasn't suicidal

01:04:41.210 --> 01:04:42.570
because back then

01:04:43.030 --> 01:04:45.150
I had a Christian perception of the world

01:04:45.150 --> 01:04:47.310
which put me in the horrible

01:04:47.310 --> 01:04:49.250
position where I was like fuck if I kill myself

01:04:49.250 --> 01:04:51.190
then I'm going to suffer even more man

01:04:51.190 --> 01:04:52.150
I'm going to just burn forever

01:04:54.030 --> 01:04:55.290
so I said shit

01:04:55.290 --> 01:04:56.650
this is a lose lose situation

01:04:57.130 --> 01:04:58.910
either I can endure this shit until maybe

01:04:58.910 --> 01:05:00.170
a bus hits me or something

01:05:00.830 --> 01:05:02.990
and then I can at least

01:05:02.990 --> 01:05:04.770
go to heaven get my ticket to heaven

01:05:05.410 --> 01:05:07.630
and then as time went on

01:05:07.630 --> 01:05:09.290
I did something really radical

01:05:10.330 --> 01:05:11.530
which I had never done before

01:05:11.530 --> 01:05:12.970
I was one of those people back in the day

01:05:12.970 --> 01:05:15.450
who I only read the Bible

01:05:15.910 --> 01:05:17.410
I don't need to read any other book

01:05:18.010 --> 01:05:19.390
all the answers are in the Bible

01:05:19.390 --> 01:05:21.390
and so the first publication I ever

01:05:21.390 --> 01:05:22.870
wrote and I mind you I'm the

01:05:22.870 --> 01:05:25.490
I come from a very strict kind of a background

01:05:25.490 --> 01:05:27.450
I kicked out of high school always

01:05:27.450 --> 01:05:29.370
in trouble unfortunately

01:05:29.370 --> 01:05:31.330
the system indoctrinated me

01:05:31.330 --> 01:05:33.330
when I was young to view

01:05:33.330 --> 01:05:34.350
and associate

01:05:35.550 --> 01:05:37.070
reading and school

01:05:37.070 --> 01:05:38.550
and education with bullshit

01:05:38.930 --> 01:05:40.410
man I don't need that shit I'm street smart

01:05:41.270 --> 01:05:42.970
but I would read the Bible man

01:05:42.970 --> 01:05:43.950
all the answers in there

01:05:43.950 --> 01:05:46.550
and so the first book I ever read was

01:05:46.550 --> 01:05:48.410
the Bible front to back when I was 15

01:05:48.410 --> 01:05:50.090
and I actually could understand it

01:05:50.910 --> 01:05:52.410
it's very ambiguous though

01:05:52.410 --> 01:05:54.850
which is a red flag for all the people who study truth out there

01:05:54.850 --> 01:05:56.510
truth is unambiguous

01:05:58.430 --> 01:06:00.210
not to knock on your religion

01:06:00.210 --> 01:06:02.150
part of in fact the digital school is

01:06:02.150 --> 01:06:03.770
to help people understand you can have

01:06:03.770 --> 01:06:05.850
your religion I'm not saying that you have to

01:06:05.850 --> 01:06:07.990
throw that away but that is

01:06:07.990 --> 01:06:09.570
the water or the soil

01:06:10.410 --> 01:06:11.890
for your roots your roots are

01:06:11.890 --> 01:06:13.770
deeper use something else

01:06:13.770 --> 01:06:15.870
what you are proceeds man

01:06:15.870 --> 01:06:17.930
made religion and anyways

01:06:17.930 --> 01:06:19.850
for my own personal story I got to the point where

01:06:19.850 --> 01:06:20.730
like man shit I'm

01:06:22.230 --> 01:06:23.910
I quite a little like this anymore and then

01:06:23.910 --> 01:06:25.890
I was self-medicating at the time I was

01:06:25.890 --> 01:06:27.970
an alcoholic and shit I just got

01:06:27.970 --> 01:06:29.550
in so much trouble getting arrested

01:06:29.550 --> 01:06:30.770
getting in fights

01:06:31.810 --> 01:06:33.270
and I said something's got to change

01:06:33.270 --> 01:06:35.010
so I did this radical and crazy thing

01:06:35.010 --> 01:06:36.230
that I would never do before

01:06:36.830 --> 01:06:38.230
I started reading other books

01:06:38.790 --> 01:06:40.530
and that was the game changer for me

01:06:40.530 --> 01:06:42.930
I read this book entitled the brain that

01:06:42.930 --> 01:06:44.770
changes itself I read it around I think like

01:06:44.770 --> 01:06:47.550
2010 or 11 I quite remember

01:06:47.550 --> 01:06:48.290
when it came out

01:06:48.930 --> 01:06:50.410
and this was a book about neuroscience

01:06:51.110 --> 01:06:52.550
and I got very lucky man

01:06:53.070 --> 01:06:54.710
if there is such a thing in this

01:06:54.710 --> 01:06:55.510
particular scenario

01:06:56.450 --> 01:06:58.730
and this book basically illuminated how

01:06:58.730 --> 01:07:01.010
the mind works and it said

01:07:01.690 --> 01:07:02.710
what you think

01:07:03.830 --> 01:07:05.410
essentially what's going on in your mind

01:07:05.410 --> 01:07:06.690
you can't really distinguish

01:07:06.690 --> 01:07:09.230
biologically and unconsciously

01:07:09.230 --> 01:07:10.830
you can't really distinguish that this is not

01:07:10.830 --> 01:07:12.790
real and so for me I was

01:07:12.790 --> 01:07:14.570
living in a war zone on a daily basis

01:07:14.570 --> 01:07:15.870
I would go into

01:07:16.770 --> 01:07:18.630
a store to get my alcohol

01:07:18.630 --> 01:07:20.390
to self-medicate and try to get through the day

01:07:20.390 --> 01:07:22.510
and I'm playing at this elaborate fight scene

01:07:22.510 --> 01:07:24.570
this John Wick fight scene with people

01:07:24.570 --> 01:07:25.370
at the gas station

01:07:26.270 --> 01:07:27.130
and so

01:07:27.130 --> 01:07:29.530
I was living in hellish conditions

01:07:29.530 --> 01:07:30.310
internally man

01:07:31.110 --> 01:07:32.890
and then I started to read

01:07:32.890 --> 01:07:35.370
and I started to mentally

01:07:35.370 --> 01:07:36.890
emancipate myself

01:07:37.630 --> 01:07:39.710
and it was a game changer and then

01:07:39.710 --> 01:07:41.810
over time I had this fundamental

01:07:41.810 --> 01:07:42.650
realization

01:07:43.710 --> 01:07:44.990
that choice

01:07:44.990 --> 01:07:46.790
is a product of awareness

01:07:47.370 --> 01:07:49.430
and an awareness that is

01:07:49.430 --> 01:07:51.490
accurately aligned with objective

01:07:51.490 --> 01:07:52.270
reality

01:07:52.910 --> 01:07:53.970
is the truth

01:07:54.750 --> 01:07:56.350
and so the truth really

01:07:56.350 --> 01:07:57.610
does set you free

01:07:58.210 --> 01:07:59.610
it will emancipate you

01:07:59.610 --> 01:08:01.990
because it will give you new options and new

01:08:01.990 --> 01:08:04.490
insights and then over time

01:08:04.490 --> 01:08:06.650
I found that this is not just me

01:08:06.650 --> 01:08:07.350
this is a

01:08:07.950 --> 01:08:09.730
consistent thing throughout history

01:08:10.270 --> 01:08:12.450
if you read Frederick Douglass in his autobiography

01:08:12.970 --> 01:08:14.350
he talks about when he first

01:08:14.350 --> 01:08:16.430
started to become disillusioned he was a little kid

01:08:17.290 --> 01:08:18.330
and then he

01:08:18.330 --> 01:08:19.890
started to read and he was learning

01:08:20.690 --> 01:08:21.710
but then

01:08:21.710 --> 01:08:23.290
and this goes back to my

01:08:23.890 --> 01:08:25.290
experience personally as well too

01:08:25.670 --> 01:08:27.950
he started to realize there's actually

01:08:27.950 --> 01:08:30.050
a system that's trying to keep me

01:08:30.050 --> 01:08:32.010
ignorant and not just ignorant I used to think

01:08:32.010 --> 01:08:33.990
that ignorance was the root cause of the problems

01:08:33.990 --> 01:08:35.130
of the world it's not

01:08:36.030 --> 01:08:37.850
unawarness is not the problem

01:08:37.850 --> 01:08:39.750
the problem is that people

01:08:39.750 --> 01:08:41.870
are delusional and what

01:08:41.870 --> 01:08:43.910
is delusion? delusion is

01:08:43.910 --> 01:08:46.010
a false belief about objective reality

01:08:46.010 --> 01:08:47.850
because I make people you make

01:08:47.850 --> 01:08:49.830
people aware all the time right with Israel

01:08:49.830 --> 01:08:51.610
what did I do I put a testimony

01:08:52.030 --> 01:08:53.530
of over 50 soldiers

01:08:53.530 --> 01:08:56.090
that have their feet on the ground saying what's really going on there

01:08:56.510 --> 01:08:57.970
so people are aware but they still don't

01:08:57.970 --> 01:08:59.350
want to believe it because they are deluded

01:09:00.130 --> 01:09:02.010
and so there's a system

01:09:02.010 --> 01:09:03.930
that actually wants to keep us delusional

01:09:03.930 --> 01:09:05.510
and so Frederick Douglass man he writes

01:09:05.930 --> 01:09:07.690
in this publication how he was

01:09:08.750 --> 01:09:09.730
learning to read

01:09:09.730 --> 01:09:11.730
the mistress of his master

01:09:11.730 --> 01:09:13.970
started to teach him and she was so excited

01:09:13.970 --> 01:09:15.490
man she went ahead and she told

01:09:15.490 --> 01:09:17.510
the master the so called

01:09:17.510 --> 01:09:19.590
master look I

01:09:19.590 --> 01:09:21.390
can show him how to read he was like 12 years old

01:09:21.390 --> 01:09:23.730
maybe younger I think he was actually younger

01:09:23.730 --> 01:09:25.550
and the master said what

01:09:25.550 --> 01:09:27.390
the fuck are you doing

01:09:27.390 --> 01:09:29.190
he said don't you know

01:09:29.930 --> 01:09:30.950
that giving

01:09:31.490 --> 01:09:33.050
this boy knowledge will

01:09:33.050 --> 01:09:35.110
unfit him to be a slave

01:09:35.730 --> 01:09:37.650
he said he needs to be kept

01:09:37.650 --> 01:09:39.870
ignorant the entire

01:09:39.870 --> 01:09:41.430
system depends on it

01:09:41.430 --> 01:09:43.430
and Frederick Douglass writes that this was

01:09:43.430 --> 01:09:45.950
the game changing moment in his life

01:09:47.030 --> 01:09:47.890
epictetus used to

01:09:47.890 --> 01:09:48.990
write about something similar

01:09:48.990 --> 01:09:51.150
so you've heard obviously

01:09:51.150 --> 01:09:51.830
of stoicism

01:09:53.050 --> 01:09:54.970
he would write about the senatorial class

01:09:54.970 --> 01:09:56.490
where the senatorial class would say

01:09:57.010 --> 01:09:59.190
the only people who are allowed to be educated

01:09:59.190 --> 01:10:01.370
are free people so the slave class

01:10:01.370 --> 01:10:03.750
because he was a slave they're not allowed to be educated

01:10:03.750 --> 01:10:05.090
and then he said

01:10:05.090 --> 01:10:06.830
please tell me senators

01:10:07.430 --> 01:10:09.250
if the philosophers the great philosophers

01:10:09.250 --> 01:10:11.610
say that only the educated

01:10:11.610 --> 01:10:13.690
are the ones that are truly free only the ones

01:10:13.690 --> 01:10:15.690
with truth are truly free then why is it that you

01:10:15.690 --> 01:10:17.350
saying that only the free should be the educated

01:10:18.270 --> 01:10:19.530
and so for me fundamentally

01:10:19.530 --> 01:10:21.310
that's what it comes down to the micro

01:10:21.310 --> 01:10:23.710
can be applied to the macro if we

01:10:23.710 --> 01:10:25.550
are given knowledge and truth

01:10:25.550 --> 01:10:28.110
if we are provided with authentic

01:10:28.110 --> 01:10:28.790
guidance

01:10:29.370 --> 01:10:31.710
the natural blueprint that we've been gifted with

01:10:31.710 --> 01:10:33.770
will come alive on its own the problems

01:10:33.770 --> 01:10:35.730
will solve themselves because

01:10:35.730 --> 01:10:37.590
guess what boys and girls irrespective of the

01:10:37.590 --> 01:10:39.550
bullshit that you see online

01:10:39.550 --> 01:10:42.050
and on tv most human beings

01:10:42.050 --> 01:10:43.410
are decent enough

01:10:44.570 --> 01:10:46.450
so if they are given the truth

01:10:47.230 --> 01:10:48.610
rather than these fragmented

01:10:48.610 --> 01:10:49.370
perceptions

01:10:50.050 --> 01:10:51.550
then they can start to contribute

01:10:51.550 --> 01:10:53.770
and create positive change first and foremost

01:10:53.770 --> 01:10:55.470
in their own lives like we asking people

01:10:55.470 --> 01:10:57.530
you know you need to contribute I've been

01:10:57.530 --> 01:10:59.830
asking myself of that but you know the first

01:10:59.830 --> 01:11:01.870
thing you need to do is help yourself out

01:11:01.870 --> 01:11:03.930
that's the first place to actually start

01:11:03.930 --> 01:11:05.050
because you are the roots

01:11:05.630 --> 01:11:07.710
from which the tree that gives the shade

01:11:07.710 --> 01:11:09.690
that gives the fruit to your family

01:11:09.690 --> 01:11:11.450
and your friends and your closest

01:11:11.450 --> 01:11:13.490
community and so that becomes

01:11:13.490 --> 01:11:14.650
a revolutionary act

01:11:15.150 --> 01:11:17.310
and so for me what I'm doing with this

01:11:17.310 --> 01:11:19.290
digital course and this digital class

01:11:19.290 --> 01:11:21.070
is I'm just taking my life experience

01:11:21.710 --> 01:11:23.710
which I have now clearly complemented

01:11:23.710 --> 01:11:24.770
with book smarts

01:11:24.770 --> 01:11:27.510
and I'm going to do what I am here to do

01:11:27.510 --> 01:11:28.690
what my purpose is

01:11:28.690 --> 01:11:31.130
which is to empower my fellow human beings

01:11:31.710 --> 01:11:33.370
and part of that school it's going to be

01:11:33.370 --> 01:11:35.250
very broad in scope man yes

01:11:35.250 --> 01:11:37.370
the introductory part is to just help people

01:11:37.370 --> 01:11:38.750
understand what is truth

01:11:38.750 --> 01:11:40.770
because I'm somebody I study semantics

01:11:40.770 --> 01:11:43.130
what is semantics what is the deeper meaning

01:11:43.130 --> 01:11:45.210
of words how can you communicate on a deeper

01:11:45.210 --> 01:11:46.350
level because the language

01:11:46.950 --> 01:11:48.730
you had a great podcast with that other dude

01:11:48.730 --> 01:11:50.410
where he was talking about telepathy

01:11:51.090 --> 01:11:53.170
telepathy might be a more refined

01:11:53.170 --> 01:11:54.790
form of communication people forget that

01:11:54.790 --> 01:11:56.890
what we are talking right now it is learned

01:11:56.890 --> 01:11:58.570
it's created and like George Carlin said

01:11:58.570 --> 01:12:00.950
language by and large is used to conceal

01:12:00.950 --> 01:12:02.290
the truth and that is exactly

01:12:02.290 --> 01:12:04.450
what the elitist class does

01:12:04.450 --> 01:12:06.650
so the first place

01:12:06.650 --> 01:12:08.490
we need to start is helping people

01:12:08.490 --> 01:12:10.590
decode what is truth because really

01:12:10.590 --> 01:12:12.330
now how many people have sat down

01:12:12.330 --> 01:12:14.610
and fundamentally resolved

01:12:14.610 --> 01:12:16.330
that question what is it really everybody

01:12:16.330 --> 01:12:18.030
say oh the truth is the truth is that

01:12:18.030 --> 01:12:19.850
but can you give me a proper

01:12:19.850 --> 01:12:22.370
semantically precise definition of what

01:12:22.370 --> 01:12:24.290
that truly is very few people

01:12:24.290 --> 01:12:26.530
can and so once people can perceive

01:12:26.530 --> 01:12:28.710
through an accurate proverbial lens

01:12:28.710 --> 01:12:30.050
right if you're looking at the world

01:12:30.050 --> 01:12:32.150
you need to have the correct

01:12:32.150 --> 01:12:33.550
eye lens otherwise

01:12:33.550 --> 01:12:35.990
everything is distorted you cannot take

01:12:35.990 --> 01:12:37.830
positive action because you are deluded

01:12:37.830 --> 01:12:39.470
or ignorant or whatever it may be

01:12:39.910 --> 01:12:42.070
so that's the first course but it's going to go far beyond

01:12:42.070 --> 01:12:43.790
that and also explore

01:12:44.470 --> 01:12:45.350
human principles

01:12:45.910 --> 01:12:47.970
and then go far beyond that as well and study

01:12:47.970 --> 01:12:50.010
who is the enemy and their nature because

01:12:50.010 --> 01:12:51.990
they understand us very well but it's time for us to know

01:12:51.990 --> 01:12:54.010
the enemy too so without me

01:12:54.010 --> 01:12:56.130
going on and on because I know we need to wrap it up

01:12:56.130 --> 01:12:58.030
my apologies on a little bit of rant there

01:12:58.030 --> 01:12:59.570
at the end of the day

01:12:59.570 --> 01:13:01.410
it really does start

01:13:02.030 --> 01:13:03.130
with helping people

01:13:03.830 --> 01:13:05.450
to become the best version of themselves

01:13:06.590 --> 01:13:07.990
absolutely man that was

01:13:07.990 --> 01:13:09.970
quite profound and it sounds like

01:13:09.970 --> 01:13:11.050
this is a very exciting

01:13:11.050 --> 01:13:13.890
venture that you're undertaking here man I can't

01:13:13.890 --> 01:13:15.950
wait to see it unfold and full disclosure

01:13:15.950 --> 01:13:17.950
Gavin didn't pay us to do this at all

01:13:17.950 --> 01:13:20.030
like we love Gavin

01:13:20.030 --> 01:13:21.310
and like this is

01:13:21.830 --> 01:13:24.030
this is something that I think is going to

01:13:24.030 --> 01:13:25.890
be highly beneficial which is why we're talking

01:13:25.890 --> 01:13:27.150
about it you know like this is

01:13:27.150 --> 01:13:29.550
we're not doing like a book promotion or anything like that

01:13:29.550 --> 01:13:31.870
this is solutions that we talk about on this

01:13:31.870 --> 01:13:33.290
show and that's what we're doing right now

01:13:33.710 --> 01:13:35.890
man Gavin thank you so much for coming on dude

01:13:35.890 --> 01:13:37.170
it was really awesome again

01:13:37.170 --> 01:13:40.130
number eight I love it dude

01:13:40.130 --> 01:13:41.790
before we sign off

01:13:41.790 --> 01:13:43.210
finally tell everybody where they can

01:13:43.210 --> 01:13:44.650
find and support your work brother

01:13:45.710 --> 01:13:47.530
so I've been definitely

01:13:48.050 --> 01:13:49.550
definitely excuse me silent

01:13:49.550 --> 01:13:51.810
on social media my sincerest

01:13:51.810 --> 01:13:54.030
apologies but we also have to be realistic

01:13:55.010 --> 01:13:55.750
irrespective of

01:13:56.210 --> 01:13:57.410
what may be going on

01:13:57.890 --> 01:14:00.010
the thing we first have to tend to is our own

01:14:00.010 --> 01:14:02.110
personal flock and so I've been taking care of

01:14:02.110 --> 01:14:04.110
my son and things have been relatively

01:14:04.110 --> 01:14:06.390
chaotic in my own personal life as you guys know

01:14:07.330 --> 01:14:08.130
but Patreon

01:14:08.130 --> 01:14:09.450
is the best place for now

01:14:09.450 --> 01:14:12.010
this podcast is actually going to inspire me to

01:14:12.010 --> 01:14:13.730
start getting a bit more active

01:14:13.730 --> 01:14:15.870
my plan was to go ahead and get

01:14:15.870 --> 01:14:18.350
the digital course up and running

01:14:18.350 --> 01:14:19.870
by now I've been working on it for a long time

01:14:19.870 --> 01:14:21.370
we've been talking about it for quite some time

01:14:21.370 --> 01:14:24.210
but it is close and I want to be very meticulous about it

01:14:24.210 --> 01:14:24.550
because

01:14:25.350 --> 01:14:27.630
this is not something that can be done half heartedly

01:14:27.630 --> 01:14:28.970
or three quarters heartedly

01:14:28.970 --> 01:14:31.410
it has to be exceptional you know and I appreciate

01:14:31.410 --> 01:14:33.410
you guys also giving me the opportunity to talk

01:14:33.410 --> 01:14:35.070
about it and to

01:14:35.070 --> 01:14:36.750
kind of plug it because I

01:14:37.690 --> 01:14:39.450
it's something that I'm passionate about man

01:14:39.450 --> 01:14:41.510
and I feel like it provides

01:14:41.510 --> 01:14:43.410
a palpable solution you know so

01:14:43.410 --> 01:14:45.550
Patreon is probably the best place where people

01:14:45.550 --> 01:14:47.430
can find me for now and also support my work

01:14:47.430 --> 01:14:49.590
for just as little as a dollar and everything

01:14:49.590 --> 01:14:50.270
really does

01:14:50.270 --> 01:14:55.790
and you know just to give you

01:14:55.790 --> 01:14:57.750
just a quick little bit more of a

01:14:57.750 --> 01:14:59.470
shout out I you know you're

01:15:00.010 --> 01:15:00.450
the

01:15:01.090 --> 01:15:04.010
the course that you're working on sounds like it would be such a great

01:15:04.010 --> 01:15:05.530
addition to James Corbett's

01:15:05.530 --> 01:15:07.930
solution watch that he does and I know

01:15:07.930 --> 01:15:09.750
that he listens to the show he's told us before

01:15:09.750 --> 01:15:11.370
that he listens to pretty much every podcast

01:15:11.370 --> 01:15:13.690
of James if you're listening please get Gavin

01:15:13.690 --> 01:15:14.910
on to talk about this more

01:15:15.470 --> 01:15:17.670
I love James man and if I could just

01:15:17.670 --> 01:15:19.290
compliment that it is one person

01:15:19.910 --> 01:15:21.850
from a political analytics

01:15:21.850 --> 01:15:23.630
perspective that I could refer

01:15:23.630 --> 01:15:25.630
people to it's him that dude is

01:15:25.630 --> 01:15:26.490
incredible

01:15:27.310 --> 01:15:29.810
Gavin just really quick can you tell people also

01:15:29.810 --> 01:15:31.050
where they could find your publication

01:15:31.530 --> 01:15:33.850
history of elitism world government and population control

01:15:33.850 --> 01:15:34.910
because I know I mentioned that earlier

01:15:35.430 --> 01:15:37.490
yes they can find it in the devil's digital

01:15:37.490 --> 01:15:38.830
layer of Amazon.com

01:15:40.090 --> 01:15:41.090
because I run it

01:15:41.590 --> 01:15:43.850
yeah I mean I have no idea

01:15:43.850 --> 01:15:45.310
why but every other publication

01:15:45.310 --> 01:15:47.310
dropped it. Yes a truncated

01:15:47.850 --> 01:15:49.430
version is on the free thought project

01:15:49.430 --> 01:15:51.370
the added benefit of actually

01:15:51.370 --> 01:15:53.270
buying it so pretty much the whole thing

01:15:53.270 --> 01:15:55.250
is virtually on the free thought project but the added

01:15:55.250 --> 01:15:57.270
benefits for those who are like really deep

01:15:57.270 --> 01:15:59.590
researchers is there's an added

01:16:00.090 --> 01:16:01.490
section at the very end

01:16:01.490 --> 01:16:03.550
where I do biographies on like

01:16:03.550 --> 01:16:05.010
all of the scientists

01:16:05.010 --> 01:16:07.130
that were involved in the MK Ultra

01:16:07.130 --> 01:16:09.470
programs and a lot of other things

01:16:09.470 --> 01:16:11.270
I talk about the authors that are cited

01:16:11.790 --> 01:16:13.450
and if you take the time

01:16:13.450 --> 01:16:15.790
that seems kind of inconsequential

01:16:15.790 --> 01:16:17.210
but there's so much

01:16:17.210 --> 01:16:19.490
deep dive knowledge in that ending section

01:16:19.490 --> 01:16:21.230
but they can find it on

01:16:21.230 --> 01:16:23.690
the digital devil's layer of Amazon

01:16:23.690 --> 01:16:25.450
the link to the

01:16:25.450 --> 01:16:27.330
to being able to buy the book is in the

01:16:27.330 --> 01:16:29.550
article on the free thought project so we'll have

01:16:29.550 --> 01:16:31.730
everything linked down there at below the podcast

01:16:31.730 --> 01:16:33.810
thank you for also giving me the opportunity

01:16:33.810 --> 01:16:35.510
to just talk about

01:16:35.510 --> 01:16:37.390
this digital academy and the digital

01:16:37.390 --> 01:16:38.730
school and also appreciate

01:16:39.290 --> 01:16:41.290
just the platform and I actually

01:16:41.290 --> 01:16:43.230
I don't know was eight fucking times that's a while

01:16:45.850 --> 01:16:47.370
and above and beyond all else

01:16:47.370 --> 01:16:49.330
keep doing your thing

01:16:49.330 --> 01:16:51.310
I know that you are primary targets in

01:16:51.310 --> 01:16:53.150
psychological warfare always

01:16:53.150 --> 01:16:55.310
be mindful and remind yourself of that and then

01:16:55.310 --> 01:16:56.130
make time for balance

01:16:56.970 --> 01:16:59.290
hell yeah brother Gavin thank you so much

01:16:59.290 --> 01:17:01.110
for coming on man this was an amazing

01:17:01.110 --> 01:17:03.330
podcast as always thank you

01:17:03.330 --> 01:17:05.270
Gavin thank you my dude

01:17:05.890 --> 01:17:06.810
much love guys

01:17:11.310 --> 01:17:13.090
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01:17:13.090 --> 01:17:15.530
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