Hey, Jamie and Foxy. We're back with a dose of truth. He's so cute.
Hi, Foxy. Do you have anything to say? Just looking cute. All right.
So what are we going to talk about today, Jamie? I think in the chat there was some people who
asking what the difference was between primary and secondary psychopathy. And so I wanted to go
over that today and just a little bit more into those topics. But I think I keep just hounding
people to educate yourself on this. Oh man, if I just could go back in time and to my younger
self and go back to every young person in high school, it's like this is the information
that we didn't have access to before the internet. And now there is so much good information on the
psychology of predators that you choose not to look at it to your own demise because we are
globally dealing with people that have psychopaths that are narcissists. And so basically what
we're doing as humanity is breaking up with abusers. And so the information about how this
psychology works is really something that people just do at least watch a couple videos on.
Because first of all, they're pretty much all the same, although there's varieties and little
different types of them. But they're very AI. And so once you really educate yourself
with the information, then you are ready to actually interact with them in a way that is
effective. And so that's why I think it's so important. I'm always passionate to talk about
it. And I have read so many books. I actually just got another mother low down from the mail
of more new narcissistic books that I'm going to be reading. So one day I'll have all the
information. But yeah, Jamie's brain is as big as the planet itself. In fact,
the planet's not big enough to house it. It's like in outer space, there's like shelves and everything.
Now, that's a good topic, Jamie, because as someone who grew up with psychopaths,
I do think that's really important. And the cult, the global cult as I call them,
I always call them a pedophile psychopathic satanic global cult that runs the world.
And that is who is in charge on this planet. That is who is in every leadership position of power,
position of influence in our global societies everywhere in the world. That is the way that
it's set up. And when you begin to understand that and then understand what psychopathy is,
the way everything is will make a lot of sense. And I can tell you experientially from these people
their cruelty, their barbarism, their creative imagination in terms of torture and harm is
astonishing. They thrive on that. It feeds them. They love it. They enjoy inflicting suffering.
I could see it in their face and in their eyes. And they do things that no human can do and remain
like coherent and whole because it's anti. It's just anti every fiber in our being. And that's
why people can't believe sometimes the things that I've shared that have been done to me or
other survivors. It seems like it's not possible because the frame of reference is humans.
But this is a different category of creature. I call it creature. So why don't you explain
what is psychopathy? Right. And I think it's just important to recognize that
they are not the same species. They share space, but they are not. You can. The most dangerous thing
to do is to project your qualities onto them. And the best thing you could ever do is accept the
truth. And you don't have to get mad or anything about it. It's just like you don't get mad when
there's a snake in your yard. You know the nature of a snake. You don't think that being
nice to a snake is going to make it not be a snake. You know what a snake is. And pretending
it's not going to be a snake is not a snake is not in any way going to protect you from the
fact that it's a snake. And that's kind of what we do with them. Right. Yeah. Can I just say
before you launch that I've been told that you can you should love the psychopath. They love
that. No. No. That doesn't work. They love that. The more you try to help them and love
them and give them the benefit and the more you fret to try to help them meet them halfway,
that is absolutely their favorite thing ever is you thinking they're the same species as you
and you trying to love them into being like you. That is actually one of their biggest power
differentials. And another important thing you mentioned Max is and you mentioned a lot of
the qualities but these they're also sadists. And so a sadist derives pleasure from the pain
of another and people talk about empathy and empathy impairment. And you know,
I don't really I have to clarify that because I don't think people really think about what
empathy is. So like when you think of somebody with no empathy that would be somebody that's
more like a highly, you know, Asperger's or like a transhumanist kind of bought,
you know, person who doesn't actually pick up on the information. Sadists are highly
attuned. They have massive empathy. They don't they just don't have compassion. They don't care.
They know, but they don't care. A person without empathy, like, just doesn't really know. So that's
different because they're not able to, you know, use that mirror near on. But I mean, think about
the child pornography, the pornography, if they didn't have that mirror near on,
there wouldn't be such a market for this stuff because they wouldn't be able to
derive pleasure from watching something visually. And so with sadism, it's like you said,
they're very creative and they are very tuned in it. It's an art to them, the art of torture.
And so I think, you know, you explained it really well when you're describing them.
And to go into more about psychopaths, you know, a basic thing people can educate themselves on
is the psychopath checklist by hair, who was like a pioneer in his field putting all
the different traits of psychopathy. Can you spell it? Can you spell it?
H-A-R-E, Robert Hare, and he wrote a book called Without Conscience. And his checklist,
the psychopath checklist revised, is basically what they use in like prisons and stuff to
assess psychopathy. Although it's a little bit dated now. And oh my goodness, there has been
some amazing research done in the last like, just even five years, there's like people that
have completed PhD level, like research longitudinal studies. And they're kind of like
reevaluating some of the beliefs in the field and in the DSM and stuff about these these
disorders or traits. And so yeah, I'm still I'm not totally like I said, I have a stack here
that I'm just eager to get into and kind of update my beliefs that I've taken in because
I think they are a little bit dated. And something that gives me a lot of hope in the
world is you know, like I said, these these evil people kind of just get their power from
default from people actually not actually understanding what they're dealing with knowing
they're in a war and actually fighting. And I've seen a huge amount of people drawn into
this field of studying people with dark personalities. And so there has been a,
you know, a shift in the power differential out of our ignorance. Number one with the internet,
people like people that have been victimized are able to share information like back in
the 1950s, you would have never seen this stuff coming. You know what I mean? Like nobody would
have sat you down and talked to you about these personalities like now, there's so much
information that people are really arming themselves and they're really putting a lot of effort into
figuring this out. Although I will say, there's still a gap in the field for people to get
to the organized satanic ritual abuse. I think that people are starting to understand
child trafficking, which again is drawing a bunch of people into looking into this field.
But there's still a ways to go for people to actually understand the actual levels of darkness
this goes to. But it is heading in that direction. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, only a psychopath can rape
a one day old baby to death. Right. And so a psychopath doesn't have the same parts in
their brain that we have. And so they will mirror and mimic and they're kind of like AI,
like when they're interacting with you, they're actually machine learning off you and they're
actually mind mapping you and they're actually like learning from you so that they can make
a representation of you in their mind that they can then therefore use later to be
statistic towards you. And so people, your good nature being used against you is one of
their favorite things because we will think that, you know, oh, they just had a hard
childhood. And actually a lot of them didn't. A lot of them were actually spoiled in childhood,
which again is a form of abuse. But it's there's kind of this like, you know, if you interview,
if you watch these prison shows, like there's so many now on Netflix or software underbelly,
you know, people telling their, you know, these people in max, you know,
jails like really violent predator types, you know, they're always going to tell you
the sad story about how they were the victim. And yeah, sometimes that's true. But a lot
of times it's not. And that was actually one of the last things for me to come to terms with
was actually, you know what? And this is from me working in the field and listening to people's
stories. And it wasn't lining up for me. I was thinking, you know, for somebody in your position,
I was expecting a pretty dark story leading up to this. And when people were telling me about,
no, my parents are great. My mom did everything for me. My dad was a good provider. My parents
are still married. We never went without. Like I'm sitting here thinking,
this doesn't line up to what this narrative that we're usually told about how this stuff
happens. And that's what we'll go into a little bit later, Max, with the difference between primary
psychopathy and secondary psychopathy. And so what you said, yeah, and I'll even go a little further,
Max, to what you said and say, like, I actually don't think that they're human. And I think
there's more psychopaths on the planet. And I think we did a show looking at some of this,
like, you know, kind of like, like intentional creation of autism, and also the transhumanism,
but like also trying to basically modify humans to be more psychopathic. And I don't want to go
way into like what people believe about aliens or different, like, I don't, I don't want to go
there on this show. But I can tell you if you look at any of the literature about, you know,
aliens or breeding programs or abductions, or if you look at Eve Lorgan's work, which I
highly recommend her love bites work, she's a really amazing lady that has written stuff that's
so unique. It's she's just in a field all her own. But she's looking at the spell her name for
people and say Morgan E, or yeah, she wrote love bites, and the dark side of Cupid. So EV,
I think you can find her online. She's got a lot of energy. She's just a really like, so she basically
did a bunch of research saying that there was these kind of people you can call it demonic,
you can call it whatever you want, but something else was basically pairing humans in dysfunctional
relationships, which we would perceive as dating a psychopath or a narcissist. But these
entities were actually obsessed with researching, observing and feeding off like unrequited love,
the pain of being cheated on, you know, these things, because as humans, we know these are
some of the most painful things when they're connected to love and relationships and stuff,
right. And so, you know, there's always this thing about other types of consciousnesses.
The thing about humans that makes us human is empathy, emotions and love, because all of
those things are irrational. And so for other species, whether you want to believe that's off
planet, or whether you want to believe that's in your dimensionals or demons or whatever,
people can just hide that for themselves when they're doing the research. The difference is,
is that humans have conscience, empathy, emotions and love, which drives behavior in an
irrational way, which makes it very hard for humans to be controlled when they're acting
out of their heart. And so part of the agenda to make humans more, you know, AI-like, you know,
autistic-like, robot-like is to basically, you know, get rid of these parts of humans that are
really emotional so that they can actually just kind of be programmed to sort of be more like a
robot, and then they can be more controlled. So that's just something to keep in mind when
you look at the personality of a psychopath and how they're promoting psychopathy even
in a social engineering level. And a lot of it has to do with just disconnecting humans from
each other, like we talked about in our past show, of like a family, the children. I think on the chat
there was somebody, I think I posted these little fake dogs they're selling now so that
children will attach to an inanimate object and bond with it instead of to an actual human.
And so again, this all leads to this kind of psychopathy being programmed from, I think
it's being done genetically, energetically. It's being hit from all sides, but they want to promote
more psychopathy because psychopaths can be programmed. Yes. And I'm really glad you said it,
because I was just thinking that when you said it, they're not human. And from what I know from my
childhood, the people at the very top of the hierarchy are not human, and they are psychopathic
as a race of ET, if you want to call them that beings. That is who they are. And they're also
patriarchal, which is why our world is very patriarchal. And so they are not human. They
bred with humans, and they produced in this hybrid class, which are the bloodline families,
that's why they're so protective of their bloodline. And it's described in Greek mythology,
except it's history, actually, where the gods rape human women and produce the race of the demigods.
And if you read Greek mythology, they're all a-holes doing terrible things to each other.
This race, who are not human, are also very incestuous. And that's the whole thing
where incest came out of, because they would marry their sister or their half-sister. It's
all about the bloodline. And even to say it differently, because you mentioned AI,
like, I see the opposite of the organic creator source light as artificial, as AI. So the dark is AI,
in a sense, right? So it all kind of makes sense to me what you're saying, because I can guarantee
you those people are not human. And what I have witnessed is there are humans who have also
been willing to literally sell their soul. A lot of Hollywood people will say it directly to you.
And they have been willing to take in an entity that is, again, psychopathic and isn't human.
So you can lose your humanity by choice as well. But that's why they actually view us. I've seen
this a million times. And I felt their contempt. They view us as lesser because we are human and we
operate from the heart and from love. They despise that about us and mock it and use it against us.
Yeah, and that's actually one of the tells, if you're dealing with a psychopath,
is they call it this little contemptuous smirk, where you can almost feel energetically this
contempt. And yeah, the AI, and this is what I say, you could have a pedophile out in the woods
in the forest and he would know how to groom. Because once he opens himself up to doing the
Immoral Act of Pedophilia, there's an alien intelligence that comes through and basically
operates through that person. It's like they just know how to do it. They know how to
groom. They know exactly like they don't go to class to learn that, although there are classes
for some of these families of how to do it for MKUltra. But that's why these predators are all
the same because there's something else operating through them that has an intelligence. They don't
come up with it on their own. It's just this predation starts operating through them. And so
that's a really good way to put it, Max. So kind of what I wanted to talk about though,
like just to make sure we address the chat was the difference between primary psychopathy and
secondary psychopathy. And so primary psychopathy is when people are born as a psychopath. So like
they actually have a different brain. You can look at it on MRI scan. They don't actually feel
fear. They don't actually like you could give them a lie detector test. And like it doesn't
move as much even if they're lying because they don't get these little like blips in their
nervous system. They're actually kind of a flat line person. And that is born. There's many
different theories. I won't go into all today. I mean, you know, but I mean, there there are
and I know people that I I know have been born dark. Like I know that for like I just do
that. I know they've always been that way. They've never not been that way. It's just how
they are to the truly are. I don't know the numbers on this. But so then the secondary
psychopathy is is through trauma. And so this is what intergenerational genetic ritual abuse
is the intentional creation, creating up psychopathy through extreme trauma and
dissociation. And so I'll come back to a little bit later, but there is a level of
dissociation in narcissists and psychopaths. And they're actually kind of already dead.
And so I can, I'm sorry, maybe I was going to explain it right now. I don't really
know. So like, um, so like with a narcissist, they have a fake self. And so that's an idol.
And so their real self, which was rejected in childhood, they actually sacrifice their
real self like a like a human sacrifice to the false self that then gets worshiped.
And so this is like what's happening internally, but this is what's actually
happening externally. So it's all mirrored again, right? And so that's why these people
hate us because we have like, we're not dead, like we actually have love emotions,
empathy and stuff. So like they are actually already dead. They've actually suicided
themselves internally and want to have a false idol of themselves worshiped. And so
they're already dead. And that's why they're a cult of death, because they want everything
to be dead. And that's why they want the dead society, like dead robot puppies for kids to
play with, dead sex dolls for men to have sex with, like AI for people to talk to. Like
they want everything to actually not be alive. They want there to be like a synthetic
existence that actually isn't based on life, which is love, right? And so it gets really
insidious when you start to look at all these things they're offering people all the time,
even if it's just like fake grass on your yard, the more fake stuff they can have
around people, the more they're not connected to the whole and the all because the connecting
thing even at a cellular level is love. And so, you know, it's really
starts to make sense why they're a cult of death. And even like the skull and crossbones
and everything's representing death and darkness because they are dead.
Yeah. No, that's well said. I really like that. And it's, it's, it's kind of
explains the story of Lucifer versus God, too. Like that creation, that life force, that warmth,
that love is taken by the dark and overlaid. It's a synthetic version of that. So the synthetic
dog version of the real dog, the synthetic sex doll version of a real woman. I mean, that's
very well said. I hadn't, I hadn't thought of it that way. But that's what it is. It's an,
it's a synthetic version. They can't, psychopaths can't, can only do that.
Well, they want to attach to it. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.
They want to attach you to it. And this is, people can look up what simulacrum is, right?
And it's a whole kind of sociological theory, but something that people can familiarize
themselves with her people prefer the image of something rather than the real thing,
which is quite satanic. But, you know, it's like, you see this even now with pornography,
people prefer porn to being with a real person. And it's like, it just keeps getting
more and more like that where it's the image of something. And so this is how, and also
something I wanted to mention was object relations, which is something else people
can go on Google and kind of familiarize themselves with and I won't go into today.
But like, you know, the objects they want, they want people to attach to dead objects and bond
with them. And so this is why they're always promoting like surrogates, whether it's like
pornography or like, they're, everything's kind of fake now. And the more fake it's like, this
is how, you know, they're basically, this is the matrix, like you said, it's the overlay
of something fake. And then they want it to be like the movie Inception, where they make
a fake of the fake and a fake of a fake. And the more they can do that, eventually it's like,
it's like homeopathic medicine, when something's been distilled down to just like an imprint of
the original. That's like basically the satanic version of God's creation, because it would be
still a representation of the creation, but completely cut off from God who is love.
Yeah. And you know, that makes me think a few days ago, I was out in a, in nature,
taking a walk. And I saw some two young men and they were walking, but they were staring at their
phones, while they were taking a walk in this beautiful natural environment. And that's exactly
what you're saying. So the cell phone, the laptop, the work, people are now living through a
simulated reality. Yeah, all the time. You know, that's the that's kind of scary,
but it's already the case. Yeah. And the, and the agenda of it is related to like, for, for empathy
reasons, right? Like, it's like, you don't know that person you're watching on a porn or you don't
know the person you're interacting with a lot. Like it's like, really trying to breed empathy
out of humans, so that they can basically reprogram somebody to be more like a programmable bot.
And so this, you know, it, and so going back to like the bloodline families, like they
basically have to like soul murder these children. And that's another term people can look up what
soul murder actually is, which is like through spiritual abuse, when they basically destroy
every part of a person. And narcissists are soul murdered, but like there's a deliberate way to
do soul murder through abuse, where it's like that, again, it's that cult of death where
they're worshiping the fact that we can murder your soul and just have this type of consciousness
in your body that we can program, right? And so, of course, that your soul is never murdered,
it's all an illusion, but like with enough trauma, that's going to seem very real. And so,
like, thinking about, you know, the bloodline families as an extreme version of, you know,
creating dissociative identity disorder and then programming psychopathic parts that are out
of context to do things, but then looking at the social engineering at how much our society is
like even how they're bringing in like cyborgs and human like robots and stuff,
like they basically are making it like through social engineering that we're just become more
and more of a psychopathic, sociopathic, low empathy material based. And this goes back to the
object relations where we just want material things to attach to, because they've detached us
and atomized us and from each other and from each other, the culture and from solidarity
and from a town and from a community. And so once everybody's isolated and atomized,
then they can just be reattached to something plastic. And that is going to become their
God. And that makes me think of those robotic wombs. They're now, that's the next thing,
they're already doing it, growing babies in these artificial robotic wombs. And I mean,
think about what that does in service of psychopathy because, you know, all the research
shows that the fetus, the infant in there is hearing the mother's voice, feeling the mother's
hearing the father's voice, like feeling this incredible love bond connection. I mean, I have
a child that love supersedes any other love on earth. Romantic love is like a drop in an ocean
compared to the love that you have for your child. So what are they doing? I mean, I mean,
it's diabolical to create a baby in a robotic womb. Yeah. And love is, love is intelligent.
Like that's why like even in romantic love, like if you really like somebody, like you'll find a way
to fly across the country to see them, like you'll find a way. Like it gives you creative ideas,
like it because it wants to draw things to itself in bonding. It's an actual intelligence.
And with children, Max, like, you know, it's like, think about getting up in the night,
like no matter how tired you are, it's like this other thing gets you up and like gets you to get
the bottle. Like it's like a super human thing that actually works to keep the species going.
Like, right, you know, people who have had kids can explain this better, but it's like,
you know, that, that intelligence that like gives them the energy even to do something
just because it needs to be done. And so love is really powerful. And like the occultists know
this. And so I always point out the, the, the Crowley saying of love under will because
they want to manipulate your love under their will. And that's what the psychopath does. The psychopath
comes into your life, machine learns off of you, mindmaps you, finds out what you need and what
your weaknesses are and starts love bombing you just to give you a taste of narcissistic supply
that they're going to get. It's like giving you something that they're going to cash back in
tenfold because once they've activated your wounded and your child or your like
good hearted empathetic, you know, believing in the good and people willing to sacrifice
yourself in a codependent way to try and help them. Well, they've just hooked in for that supply
and they are going to drain you like a battery until you're dead. And then they're going to
move on. And so really there's two choices when it comes to interacting with psychopaths
and nurses. You can accept reality and navigate what's happening or you can lie to yourself.
If you lie to yourself, you will be destroyed. And if you don't lie to yourself, then you will
have the rational choice to get away from them as soon as possible, cut ties. And if you can't,
then use every single thing from top down to keep it as a minimum interaction as possible with them.
And all the other stuff around that is just something you're making up in your own mind
that's really dangerous. Yeah, really, really dangerous. And we, you can learn this the
easy way or the hard way. I learned the hard way, but like I wouldn't wish it on anybody and I just
wish people would do it hard about it because you have to lie to yourself. You have to lie to yourself
to interact with these people. It's just like when we have a government that we know is destroying
our country, stealing from us, like not caring at all about the people, but like people,
like they know that, but they still don't want to be adults. So they want to believe
that they can go and vote and that the next person is going to be good. And then that's the
point where they lie to themselves. And that's a free will decision. And you've now consented
to your torture. And so it's like really wising up to that. Yeah, no, I tell people I don't vote
because that is consenting to be ruled by an abusive master who thinks they have authority
over me and literally want my harm. I mean, let's just call it what it is. Speaking of
psychopathy, that's a good that's a good way to the government is psychopathic. Yeah,
the global agencies are psychopathic. The medical and pharmaceutical systems are
psychopathic. Okay, that's just a fact of life. But it is hard, I think. So I was helping
someone, you know, the guy unwittingly married a very narcissistic woman who had come
through a lot of trauma background, and she had become a narcissist. And, you know, she was,
he was her supply, and she belittled him, and she controlled him. And he was not, you know,
I mean, he was beginning to feel it. And of course, didn't like it, but was a good guy and
kept trying to do more so that she would be okay. And I so I started coaching him like,
no, you don't you have to understand what you're dealing with. So I had him read some books on
narcissism and he was shocked because the books literally described his wife. And I was like,
yeah, because this is what you're dealing with. And when he suggested a trial separation,
she had gone away for work. And she immediately had an affair with someone. So as soon as she
sniffed that it was he was pulling away, she replaced him in a hot second. And then
kept so he kept but it was because he's his goodness. And his heart made him think and he
had been in the role of her caretaker and savior and supply. And so he didn't know it took him a
while. He had to get smacked in the face kicked in the teeth repeatedly. And then he educated himself
to really understand like, there is nothing that can be done. This is who she is, right?
Yeah. And so he finally got to that point. And he he minimally deals with her now because
they have a child in common. And so that child was of course, a weapon of hers against him as
well. And you know, poor guy, I mean, it's horrible what he's been through. But she also kept reframing
reality on him to make him seem like he was the one who was wrong. And thank God I was there to
sort of help him see like, no, no, no, no, no, you know, and it was a huge learning curve. But
partially in his case, not only like you say, yes, some people it's like they just don't want
take responsibility. But in his case, it was that he couldn't imagine
her conniving, you know, back like he was such a good person that he couldn't imagine that she would
do these things, which I predicted and then she did like, eventually he got it. But it was his
goodness and the way that he was, he imagined her or anyone should be. And that's one of the
things that gets us, right? We can't imagine that a psychopath or a narcissist will be like this
because we can't be like this. So it seems like, no, that's not, you know, poor thing. But you
really got to get realistic here, don't you? Yeah, it's like counter projection, right? So they
project evil, like they can't believe you'd actually be like moral and keep your word like
they actually think you're just faking how they're faking. And so yeah, it's like the opposite, right?
And then we'll project things onto them. And like two of the traits that they really look for is
somebody that's like loyal and dedicated, where they're like, I'm going to finish what I started
and get like follow enemy. I mean, that's me, right? But yeah, that one. And then
conscientiousness like where they're like really aware of like how they're affecting others and
they're going to keep their word and follow through and keep working at like they love that
that is like their ultimate supply is to find somebody that's going to keep trying,
which is a really amazing trait for like your your job or career or just as a person,
that's a really good trait to have. But like it's when it gets inverted. And the thing about
this is it's all inverted, right? Like so this is like psychopaths are inverters, like they mirror
everything. And so they flip everything onto you. And that's why they're always gaslighting
and acting like the victim. And so like, it's really important. And it's such a panic concept
is the mirror, right? And so it's a like you were talking about the like a replica of the
creation, but then it's like a mirror image, right? And they do this with like programming
and internally as well, right? Like the whole mirror image alters and stuff. And so like,
they're doing that to us, you know, globally is like mirroring. And like we talked about it
in our other shows, where when you sign up for what's right, then your mirror that they, you know,
they bend the mirror so that you're being the persecutor and like you're being morally wrong
by doing what's right. And then they become the victim by you actually expecting them to be
moral. And so the concept of the mirror is really, really important. And when you're in
your toolbox with dealing with these people is that and because you're a good person,
you're going to say, Well, is it me? Have I done something? Is there something I can do?
And that's just like exactly what they want is for you to do that, because then that's how they can
keep doing the same thing to you. Yeah. Yeah. Now, and I, you know, I have a psychopathic uncle,
and I have a narcissistic mother, so I have a lot of experience. But I mean, it's taken a
lifetime with a narcissistic mother, you know, and it took a while to get to the point
where it's like, I, there really isn't anything. There's no relationship that I can have,
because I am going to be harvested and used and sucked on and abused and blamed and
projected on. And literally, it, you know, it doesn't matter what I do. There's no other outcome.
That's it. You know, right? It's harder to accept, but you've got to because you'll get,
you'll get, it's like you'll, you'll get killed, like you say.
Yeah, you will. You'll end up like people, and actually there's like a lot of suicide,
like people, it's really bad. Like what, what, the amount of soul murder that can happen to
people where they are completely devastated as a human being after being in a, in an engagement
with somebody who really is a dark entity, like they will literally harvest your soul down to
like, where people have absolutely nothing left. Like they've been, it's like really
the worst thing that could ever happen is like somebody having enough time to go through the
full process of narcissistic abuse on you to the point where like people are like, they are just
like a left, a left corpse after is basically like the end result. If you were to keep,
keep staying there until the end, that's where it ends, right? And again, it's like,
we don't need to like even punish these people because it doesn't work. First of all,
as soon as the punishments remove, they'll go and do it. They don't actually integrate
the new learning that way. So like, all, you know, it's just accepting reality. Like you don't
have, it's like, you see a snake, you know, it's a snake, it's never going to not be a snake,
but that doesn't mean you have to like hate snakes. Like a snake can't, it's like,
these people actually can't help how they are. They have free will to make decisions,
but like they can't actually make themselves have empathy. They can't decide to have empathy
because you've been begging them as a faithful wife for 20 years, they're not going to wake up one day
and say, well, you've been so patient with me, I think I'll have empathy now. Like it's just not,
it's not possible. And so it's like relying to our self thinking we have power when we don't.
But then also part of healing is like, basically not taking everything so personal,
because you realize that that snake would have treated anybody the same, which is the way
that a snake treats people. And so you don't have, you can let go of all the like internalized
stuff that they've been programming you with gaslighting and stuff, because you sort of realize
that like it wouldn't matter, especially with children that had narcissistic parents,
it's like, I always told this to people, you could insert any baby there, and they would
have been treated exactly the same. Like it had nothing to do with you. That parent would
have treated any child exactly the same, no matter what. And I think the important thing to acknowledge
is kind of like as above so below. So as this psychopathy that we've been talking about in
people, or really non human beings that we see, we think are people but are not,
this, the overall structure of this of our reality, which is satanic, is psychopathic.
So every institution that we interact with, education, medicine, government, media, science,
it's all been hijacked and is psychopathic. And that's what's being done to humanity as a whole.
That process you just described is what they've been doing to us, as well as transform,
you know, secondarily, like you say, people into an image of that. So based on that,
what can humanity do to get out of this situation that we're in where we're basically being run by
psychopaths? Like what do you see as the solution? If you think of an individual solution, can we
apply that to the collective? I think education number one, like I said, like when you learn this
stuff, you're like, like you said, when your client read the book, like it's like textbook,
it's like, yeah, they all are like, once you read the book, you're like, Oh, now I know what
is now I know about snakes, right? Like, so again, it's number one is educate yourself, educate
yourself, educate yourself. And there is amazing stuff out there. Like you will have unlimited
videos on any topic you want. There's amazing books that have been out. Like, I mean, there's
so many people doing like so much putting out so much good content. Like, I mean, I think
there's been like, like some empaths like stepping up and like being like, we're not going to be
bullied anymore. And like, they're, they're really helping each other. And a lot of the people that
are like doing PhDs on this, they were married to somebody. And like, they dedicated the entire
rest of their life to understanding this and teaching it to others. And there are many people
that are doing that right now. And so please listen to them, because they are, they know it,
they've been through it, they understand it, they've researched it, and they're trying to
teach you. And so it's only up to you if you're going to take that information. Going into denial
is not going to save you. Okay. That's what they depend on your, you going into denial
and trying to save them. And so number one is education, courage, you know, bullies, like
you cowardice only like the boa using snake analogies, my brother used to have a boa snake
and I put it on my neck once and every time you exhale it tightens and then it can sense
your fear. So you just, you know, this is like what happens when you're a coward, you think, oh,
I'm scared and I'm going to constrict and then it's the snake constricts more and more and more.
It's better just to like get it off right away when you see it starting to constrict.
Right. And so yeah, we have to have the courage to stand up to bullies. Obviously,
it's a lot easier if there's more of us doing it. And like I said, there's a lot of brothers
and sisters out there who are like, are going to have your back and that are trying to
work together as a team. Right. And then also like we need to use our free will and we need to
stop worshiping these people. Okay. Like we need to stop saying, oh, wow, that guy's so great,
even though he's a womanizer. Oh, wow, that politics, that politician, you know,
stepped on everybody's foot to get voted or oh, wow, look at the CEO that like destroyed,
you know, lives wherever and then but look what a great house he has and he's on the
Forbes list. Like we need to stop worshiping psychopathy because we do. Like you see, you know,
like it's in rap music, like just think about yourself, be materialistic, don't take care of,
you know, your family and like they're always like making this seem like a really
thing to be worshiped. Right. Like look at me. I'm so selfish. I'm vicious. I'm ruthless.
Like it's really promoted in culture, you know, for little boys and everybody to kind of like
these are the role models we have. These are the heroes we have is just, you know,
look at all these survivor shows on TV where it's like the most vicious and backstabbing person
gets the money at the end. Like there's tons of shows on this. They're, you know, or even
like the bachelor and stuff, it's always like survival of the fittest and backstab your
fellow man and then we like, but we sit there and worship the winner and bring them roses
and say, oh, look, they were, they were the best, the snakiest of the snakes. Like,
you know what I mean? Like we need to really stop giving our energy to it and especially with
like celebrities and, you know what I mean? All of it. Like we need to just stop worshiping it.
And it's like, I don't know why our culture is worshiping it, but like, I guess there's this
kind of. Because we're the supply for that. We're their supply if we worship them.
Yeah. Well, there's this kind of worship of like this bold cowboy,
ruthless, fearless dominance, like, I mean, and in nature, there's a place for that where
that's where they say like, when times are bad, girls like bad boys, because they probably will rob
the bank and grab, pick you up on their motorcycle and get you out of there. But like, that's not
the guy you want to settle down with and have kids because he's also going to take off on his
motorcycle and probably rob you. Right. And so they say like that, but when times are tough,
women like genetically are more attracted to somebody who's going to be a little more
ruthless psychopathic because you're going to survive. But then when you don't need to do that,
you know, you're going to want somebody who's like, not like that because it's a long-term survival.
Right. So there is some kind of like, you know,
biosociological reasons for like us worshiping psychopaths. But like now it's, I mean,
I just, I'm disgusted every time I look on TV at like what people are looking up to. Like,
these are not our role models. This is like, I don't know, like, why don't we
respect people who are like a good person and help others and have a conscience and care and,
you know, like these are the kind of things we need to respect. And look at the people that get
paid money, like sports stars and all these people. It's like, there's actual material reward
just for, you know, being, being a survival of the fittest. And like, I think we all
participate in that and we should just all really stop. Yeah. They're trying to make us
into secondary psychopaths, you know, just like you said earlier, by, by all of that. And, you know,
survival of fittest is a satanic principle that is part of a psychopathic belief system,
because actually survival is about cooperation and, and compassion and helping each other and
standing together. That's much more likely to guarantee the survival of everyone. Survival
of fittest is only guaranteeing the survival of that fittest person to the detriment of everyone
else, but it doesn't need to be that way. But that itself is a psychopathic idea. So we've been,
I mean, Satanism is now basically embedded in our societal mores and values and ways of
seeing reality. It's kind of astonishingly disturbing to see it's, it's become
normal. It's become much more normalized. So, you know, I'm not surprised that people are less and
less exhibiting human qualities. But on the other hand, there still are a lot of really good people,
really loving people. And that's who's going to make a difference. And it's what I say is like,
there's no point in reforming or fighting the psychopathic system. You just kind of let it,
like you do with a narcissist, you just look this way and you go down a different path and create
something that you do want that is beneficial for you and your tribe or whatever you want to call it.
So I think that we can always, I like to apply the individual to the macro. And so I think it's
a great thing to say like what you're describing in a psychopathic individual, primary or secondary
or narcissist, we're seeing as our, our structure and we need to do the same thing.
You can't win with them. You can't love them into doing the right thing. You can't, I mean,
there is just point, you just got to let that go and go in a different direction and join
together with people who are not psychopathic or narcissistic and absolutely educate yourself.
That's the whole thing. That's why we do a dose of truth to educate people because,
you know, that's a truth. When you know the truth, you become more and more free. You become
more and more empowered. You have choice now because a lot of we have free will choice,
but if it's manipulated, we're going to choose stupidly, you know?
Yeah. And every person that is a psychopath is actually delusional. Like, because you said
it's like they're, you know, it's like thinking about, okay, so they're going to manipulate everybody
and be survival of the fittest. Well, guess what's at the top? It's going to be a max security prison
full of psychopaths all stuck together with each other. And why, like, how is that the end goal?
Right? Like it's like, they're so delusional. They don't actually see the end goal.
Like it's, I always say the saying that, you know, evil asks, can I and good asks,
should I? So if you have wisdom, you say, can I and should I because you're actually thinking
about not just can you accomplish something? When you go to psychopathic delusion, they just think,
can I, can I get to the top? Can I get what I want? And so when they do that, they don't actually
think about holistically if they should because no, actually there's consequences when you think
holistically to doing that is actually not the best decision for you or anybody else. And,
you know, being survival of the fittest, it's like, it's like, we all live on the same planet.
Like, I mean, creating a hell world. This is what I say about Satan is like, you can't even
be a master without being a slave to something else. So thinking you have power over others,
you're just basically got tricked into becoming a slave yourself. And that's a delusion. And so
it's like seeing these people and it's only going to get worse. Like if they actually get what they
want, it's only going to keep getting worse for them. Do you know what I mean? Like they
shouldn't really consider what they want and why they're trying to get that because
it's the fact that they even want it shows you that they're actually under a delusion.
It's the same with a pedophile. It's like, yeah, maybe if you're sitting there thinking about if
you can get away with this, but if you don't have the part in your brain that could say,
why am I even thinking of doing this? You are under some type of evil intelligence to the
fact that you even can't have the self awareness to question why you want that, not if you can
do it, right? So it's like, I think if people, I think even if the psychopaths got a little
bit smarter, instead of being led by their ego, which is like a form of self possession,
like they're basically, you know, leaving themselves into hell. And if we're dumb enough to go along
with them, they'll take us down with them. But like, we actually are smarter than them. So we
just need to get the information and educate ourselves with it. And it's like, they don't
actually stand a chance when we operate from love and from the heart intelligence. And they
actually can't even play chess with us because they don't understand the moves we're making
because it's not just survival of the fittest logic.
Right. No. And the way we are is the way forward and the only way forward because
to do it the other way to the satanic way, the evil way, the only outcome is self annihilation.
It's the Auroboros. So there is no way out of that. So it doesn't go anywhere.
Yeah. You can't grow, you can't go higher with that model. You just,
you're just going to spiral and extinguish yourself and anyone else who's hanging with you.
And I think that's what's happening right now. It's that choice point. It's like, which way are we going
to go? And that's what I love is that, you know, for a long time, these secret societies and stuff
could kind of just feed each other's delusions in like a very isolated cult setting where they're
basically just feeding each other's egos to the point. You know, and now, you know,
they have all these ways of trying to put, give us their mind, but like they're getting our
mind back because they have to like see what we say about them on podcasts and like look at what
we're doing and like they can actually see that we're smarter than them and operating from the heart
and that we do have courage and like they're just like mystified and like, oh, you know, because
they were just, it's like they were in such a bubble before of not even being exposed to us.
And so they really overestimated themselves in how ignorant they projected onto us and how
they think they could just program our motives, but like we can move sideways on the board,
right? Like they just, it's like, I think it's all, I think all that they've done is going to be
inverted back around. Like, and I just think it's just really, you know, the faster people kind of
want to jump on board with that, like, I mean, the faster it's going to happen.
Yep. No, and that's how we can end this podcast here today is it's the end of psychopathy,
you know, because psychopathy is itself ending itself. And so we're, this, this spiritual
war we've already won. It's just going in that direction. And love always prevails. It is more
deep, more complex, more successful. And so all their lies are being unmasked now. And so it's
just people need to really like, step up, do your inner work, take responsibility for your
choices and what led to the environment you live in. And then join together with other
people. Let's just ignore them and go forth and create a better world together without them.
That's not psychopathic. Yeah. And even if you are a psychopath and you don't have that part in
your brain, like, I think you could at least work on the part of your brain that's logical
and rational and figure out how ridiculous it is to act psychopathically. Even if you don't
have feelings about it, I think for those other people, you might want to actually
start using your brain and thinking about it at least get some rational compassion in there
because it's, it's actually the smartest thing for you yourself to do. Yeah. Amen.
All right, Jamie. Well, thanks so much. I think this is a, this is something that will be really
useful for people. And yeah, people in the chat were asking for this. So hopefully
this answers a lot of their questions. So thank you so much. And I'll see you next dose of