Are nanoparticles and nanomachines in our blood?
Well, today we're going to answer that question
and I think quite a definitive manner.
I'm Dr. Andrew Kaufman
and this is the True Health Report.
I have a esteemed panel of expert guests
in the fields of microscopy, natural healing
and nanotechnology with me today
because in the recent years
since the COVID jabs have been around
there have been lots of people
and I think most of them really well intentioned
trying to do the right thing and find out the truth
of what our oppressive government might be doing to us
and we all agree that there is a lot of toxicity
from these injections.
But what we've also seen is a lot of claims
about various microscopic findings
both in the actual vaccine solutions themselves
as well as in the blood,
claims about nanotechnology, hydrogels,
frequency devices, et cetera.
And I think that there have been some errors
made in some of the ways these images
and this information has been interpreted.
And what we aim to do in this presentation
is to have a balanced discussion
and give you a basic education
on how to do microscopy, how to approach it,
how we can interpret these things
and put everything in perspective and context.
This type of blood analysis has been done
for quite a number of years long before COVID
and there is a lot of experience in the room
to share with you their findings.
This is the True Health Report
where critical appraisal fuels true freedom.
Let me bring everyone on stage
and we're gonna go around and have everyone introduce
and why don't we start with you, Dr. Arse.
Hello, everybody.
Thank you for having me.
I'm Dr. Marisol Arse.
I'm a naturopathic doctor and terrain educator.
I've been practicing for almost 20 years now.
I have been working with microscopes.
My mother was an electron microscopist
so I first hand knowledge in that
and I base a lot of what I do on pleomorphism
and the studies and works of underlying.
Fantastic.
All right, Dr. Oliva.
Hello, I'm Anna Maria Oliva.
I'm a PhD in biomedicine.
I'm not a medical doctor
but I'm a researcher in biomedicine
and I was working in a nano bioengineering lab.
So I know first hand what is nanotechnology
applied to health and nano medicine.
All right, very key knowledge for this discussion.
All right, next we have Adam Bigelson.
Thanks for inviting us on, Andy.
Yeah, Adam Bigelson, my brother and I, Josh,
we have continued the work of our father,
Dr. Harvey Bigelson, about there,
who did some pretty amazing things
in the field of alternative medicine.
He helped write a law that legitimized
homeopathic medicine in the United States,
things like that.
He was the third doctor in US history
to look at the live blood.
So we've had some experience with the blood.
That's one reason we're here today.
And Josh?
Yes, I've been working,
oh, I worked on and off with my father
probably since what, 1989,
but literally been behind the microscope
since around 2001, almost nonstop.
So for the last 20 plus years
I've had my head in the microscope.
I have recognized a lot of patterns
and we try to educate people on what we see,
but we try to educate people on how nature works
and to make sure that people realize
that we're not separate from it
and that we evolve through symbiosis
and not antagonism.
All right, fantastic.
Well, it's great to welcome you all
to this discussion today.
So why don't we just start off
and educate the audience a little bit
about exactly what is so-called live blood analysis.
And I know that's kind of a proprietary term,
but we're talking about looking at blood
that has not been fixed in paraffin
and stained with poisonous dyes,
but blood that is still alive
when we're looking at it under the microscope.
So someone could give a little bit of introduction
to what that is and what are some important aspects
about just the basic technique of doing this work.
Good question.
And Mari, do you have some of the history
out of curiosity with some of
where the live blood experience came about?
Actually, yes.
I worked for a company called PleoSanum.
It was a North American offshoot of Sanum Kellbeck.
And in working with them,
there was a lot of people who utilized their products,
which were underlying Sanum products,
and they utilized them
by understanding how to use the microscope.
Very much many of us were actually taught
how to use the microscope
through the live blood cell analysis way.
And basically it's as simple as
you're pricking your finger,
you drop a blood on a slide,
you put a cover slip and you stick it under the microscope.
And what's interesting to Andy is, you know,
our father learned how to analyze live blood,
but live blood analysis is actually a brand.
It's also known as nutritional microscopy.
And that is not the work that we do.
So with Josh and I, with our father,
using that dark field microscope,
very similar images to live blood analysis
are very different interpretation and philosophy.
So it's something that confuses people with what we do.
There is at this moment,
no one in the world that does what we do the way we do it.
Regardless of anyone who says they may have learned from us,
there is no one that we endorse or refer to.
So what we do is very different.
And the microscope has been around for a long time.
One thing you know,
the difference with live blood analysis
and the Western medicine experience
is in Western medicine, they stain the blood.
So they add something to it.
So that image, it's fixed basically.
And when our father was with Gaston Asans
and he saw that blood live the first time ever,
he said he got chills.
There were things in there he needed to learn about.
And at one point even,
Andy, as dad had all this great results with cancer
by looking at the microscope and understanding things there,
he had the head of a very famous medical school,
the hematology department,
the head came to visit him in Mexico
because of the results of cancer.
And dad said he put the drop of blood live
under the microscope
and the man refused to look into the microscope.
What a heresy.
It was not stained, right?
And really, and dad said,
you wanted to know why I get the results
and he wouldn't even look.
And I think something to add, Adam,
is the fact that what your father looked at,
again, the similarities with which preparation is the same,
is that that is probably the only thing similar.
After that, it's the way your father looked at the blood, right?
The patterns, the understanding, the movement.
Live blood cell analysis is looking at a lot of the times,
and again, I'm coming from experience,
being trained as such.
They're looking at it in a almost a conglomerate,
amalgamated way,
taking conventional ideology of what the blood looks like
and superimposing it on what they're actually viewing
in the blood in a live way.
And so with that,
there's a lot of speculation as to what's happening, right?
So we as conventional medical practitioners know
that when a red blood cell is this versus this,
that there's some sort of anemia going on,
but slight variations don't really tell us too, too, too much.
You're also seeing platelets.
You're seeing white blood cells.
You're seeing the movement and activity
of the plasma itself.
You're seeing various other things happening.
And live blood cell analysis, again,
coming from the germ theory, conventional ideology,
and superimposing what they're seeing,
not really truly understanding any of the work
that Gaston did, Enderline did, your dad did.
They are, again, coming up with, again, speculation
and basically the fallacy of ignorance.
They don't know what it is, so they make up something
and it fulfills that requirement
because nobody can falsify this something in their mind
that what they're seeing is to be true.
So the biggest difference is how your father saw the blood,
how you guys see the blood
versus how a live blood cell analysis sees it.
So I think we have two important aspects here
when we're talking about looking at living blood
under the microscope.
One is that it's very different
from the way blood is looked at in allopathic medicine,
where we're looking at dead blood that's been stained.
And also the processing that's required to do that,
and I encourage people to look into the work of Harold Hillman,
changes things about those cells.
First of all, when something's alive versus dead,
it may change.
And then also adding various fluids and buffers
can shrink and swell the cells
and change their size, dehydrate them,
and lots of things can change.
So when we're looking at the actual living blood,
while we may not be able to see the same details
as a stain can show,
what you're seeing is as close as possible
to what's happening to that blood
when it's actually inside the body.
So that's a unique advantage.
And of course it's a tragedy
that that hematologist wouldn't look,
but they would have had to totally change everything
they ever knew and they didn't want to go through that.
I think that's the reason.
And then we have the second aspect
that you're talking about is that,
and I think there's more other ways of interpreting it
besides the two ways that you mentioned,
the Biggelson approach and the live blood analysis,
but there are different ways of interpreting certain things
with respect to your health.
But at a more basic level, I think everyone agrees,
this is a red blood cell, this is a white blood cell,
this is a platelet.
There may be other things we might see on there
that we may not agree with.
And then there's one more aspect
that you didn't really touch on a lot,
but you did mention about
that there are different types of light microscopes
that can give you different visual aspects, right?
Like we have dark field microscopy, phase contrast,
microscopy and various other types of optical technologies
that can change the appearance of what we're looking at.
Yeah, and what's interesting too,
I'll tell you this real quick, Andy,
with what we do when dad was doing this in the clinic,
it's drop of blood on the slide, on the microscope.
That's it, all right?
We're also seeing now,
I've seen images over the last few years
of things I've never seen before.
And as I looked at them, I thought it looks colored
or it looks oil.
And so people are now adding oil with rosemary
and other things to it to the sample.
I don't know why they're altering it.
And they're also using different colored filters.
So Josh and I, dad sample on slide, on microscope,
no altering, nothing.
That's it.
And realize that we're reading patterns.
That's what my father did.
That's what I've been doing for years.
We're just replicating patterns
that we've seen over and over and over again.
So, and our goal isn't here to push our work on people.
There's different interpretations out there.
Part of the goal is for us being here
is to let people know that some of the interpretations
they've heard out there are scientifically impossible,
right?
So with what we're doing with actual,
dark field analysis, it's very simplistic.
Like Adam says, there's no adulteration.
It just goes right on the actual slide.
But what's gone on these days,
it seems like a game of telephone, right?
So it's like anybody who's looking for the microscope
has their own interpretation
without even understanding who Antoine Bechamp was,
underlying and were they right about everything?
Absolutely not.
But they laid the foundation and a lot of these things
that people are making claims about are new
have been around ever since somebody's looked
into a microscope, a dark microscope.
They're always there.
So it's been an interesting process.
And contrary to popular belief,
these dark field microscopes that are solved for Amazon
and things like that cannot do chemical analysis.
They cannot do mineral analysis, right?
That is total interpretation.
Even me who's been looking at a microscope for 25 plus years,
I can't tell you that I'm seeing chemicals in the blood,
right?
I can't tell you that we're deficient in this vitamin.
We might have like, you know, Mari said,
an educated guess based on some of the shapes of things.
But what it's turned into is, you know,
fear-based mongering and just a way to sell supplements
based on some bad speculation
and really ignorant science, unfortunately.
Right, I totally see that.
And I was wondering, actually, Anna Maria,
could you weigh in a little bit about like the scale
of what you can see with various microscopes?
Yeah.
Like a lot of people are talking
about nano technology, right?
Yeah, there is no way you can see nano scale
in a microscope.
Definitely the word tells you as a microscope,
you can see microns.
You cannot see nanoscopic things.
So it's absolutely impossible.
And for me, the most important thing is also this context
in which people are putting the things on.
So they are seeing an image and suddenly they say,
oh, this is a circuitry.
Well, you have to demonstrate that.
You cannot just say, oh, I have a picture of something
that I don't know what it is
and just assume that it's a circuitry.
And then say that it's self-ensemble.
Sorry, that is a self-assembling things.
Is that this ridiculous?
Because one of the main problems,
and I just dropped that thing also there,
is that you cannot use a word that has a meaning
and reinvent the meaning.
You cannot say, oh, this that I see there,
I'm going to call it hydrogel.
Just because I want,
but just because I don't have any other word.
You cannot do that because hydrogel
is something perfectly defined in literature.
And you don't see a piece of hydrogel suddenly there
because hydrogel are creating other kind of structures.
So for me, all these things are very interesting
because we have not only a possible change
in the procedure and adding some things and filters
or whatever, is that we have an image
that suddenly someone interprets in a certain way.
And I mean, you can be wrong.
You can be free of being wrong,
saying that this is a circuit,
but then it comes another person gives the context.
And then that context is totally wrong.
It doesn't make any sense.
There is no proof of it at all, at all.
But what do we also know about in science?
Reproducibility.
Yeah.
And the problem is,
is a lot of these people are coming up with these ideas.
And Josh, you can, I'm sure you can emphasize this.
How many times we see certain slides or certain images
and you go, oh, that's a terrible,
that was a terrible sample.
That was a terrible smear.
How many times they smush the cover slip
or they squeeze the blood too hard.
It's all these different things.
You have to be able to reproduce over and over
the same image and get the same result
to make even a slight kind of idea
that what you're seeing is valid and truth
and something that can be researched
and not something that just fiction
that's coming off the top of your head
because you're appealing to fear.
So science is all about reproducibility.
And we know that your father,
that the Biggelson method is reproducible.
It is a constant.
It goes on and on and on and it can go on and on and on.
When these people are just starting to look
at the microscope, they buy a cheap microscope.
They have never been taught traditionally
how to take a smear,
how to put a cover slip.
And the moment that they see an image,
and I've seen this all the time in live blood cell analysis,
they'll take a spot.
Now, when you look at the microscope
and you're looking at the stage
and you're looking at the image and you move around,
the blood doesn't look uniform.
There's sometimes there's congestion
of red blood cells in one area.
There's white blood cells congested in another area.
There's platelets starting to form in another area.
And a lot of these times,
a lot of these practitioners,
they take a snapshot of this one area
that looks really good and they go,
oh, look, you're really, really healthy.
Or they'll say you come in and you're feeling like garbage
and they'll take a picture of the part
where they're stacking, they call it Ruloh,
which is not really true Ruloh, right, Josh?
And then they'll say, oh, you're really sick.
You're full of toxins, you need to detox.
And then you come in three weeks later doing a detox.
And then all of a sudden,
they take the snapshot of the thing
that makes it look good and go,
oh, look, look, your blood is all clear.
And it's a different part of the slide altogether.
It's like they weren't taught the very basics
of the cells you're looking at.
Some cells are a couple of minutes old.
Some can be up to 120 days old.
So your younger cells are naturally gonna look stronger.
And as you scroll to the outside of the slide,
that's where the older decomposing cells are gonna be.
So you're gonna have a combination
of younger cells and older cells.
So you can choose to focus on the older cells
and say, oh my God, you're sick and low oxygen.
Or you can actually learn some basic science
and realize that those cells are decomposing naturally.
I think it's important to just note also
that Dr. Oliva here actually worked
in a nanotechnology laboratory.
And as far as I know,
most of the authorities on nanotechnology
talking about these days
have never even worked in a nanotechnology lab.
So she is speaking from experience.
We're speaking from experience
and it doesn't matter whether you believe
in our interpretations or not.
What we're here to talk about is the science
behind what's going on
in some of the false conclusions that are out there
because it fits into people's narrative.
Well, I think you guys have done a really good job
like bringing to light various categories of error
that can easily occur in someone with limited experience
or perhaps with not the best training or education
and when you're not thinking really systematically.
So there you can cherry pick the data
and sometimes people do that to their advantage
like you guys were talking about
by finding a different part of the slide.
Like even in mainstream,
hematology lab when they do cell counts
they count multiple microscopic fields
and take the average
because they know there's an uneven distribution
of the cells throughout the whole field
and we've seen in virology
that they definitely cherry pick the images
and we don't know what they're seeing
in the rest of the fields
because they don't share that with us
and you guys have pointed out
that there could be errors in the preparation of the slides
like from every point along the chain of custody there
and then obviously when you adulterate the sample
with other substances
and I think Adam that those are people trying to see
can I make the blood look healthier
if I put in a natural herbal remedy?
But of course, you can't predict
how that changes what you see
in the blood
and maybe there's a different way to do
those kinds of experiments
if you have real objective findings
but in the state of fear that we were in
and a lot of people waking up for the first time
to a lot of injustices and control efforts
by the government
can sort of get into this catastrophizing mentality
I think where everything looks like it's part of an evil plot
and there was a real evil plot
but it's just that it didn't quite extend
this far as we can tell.
So why don't we look back historically
and I understand that Adam you have some images
that long predate the COVID injection era
and let's see what you could see in the blood
under a microscope before this technology existed
or was employed.
Yeah, let me move a picture around
and I'll tell you too as we talk about this
like you said just from the beginning
I've seen videos of people taking drops of blood
that were hilariously ridiculous
where the woman has a slide drop squashes it
and grinds it in there and well-known people
and there's another well-known person
sending us the video saying what is she seeing
and our response is who cares?
She just killed the blood.
I know this is a technique for certain things
but not for what we do.
And even so we've seen this so many times
when Josh, me, dad took blood drops
we always took multiple drops, all right?
If we see something strange in the first drop
we're gonna confirm in the second drop
and it's all about taking the right drop
and it's the hardest thing to do
is just take the slide not touch
let it jump off onto the slide
and let it tap it and just be very careful.
So right off the bat people are killing the blood
and I've done videos of showing
look at my awesome blood and then I scroll over
and look at the Ruloh and part of this
for anyone that's listening, watching that does this work
really listen, we want you to do good things
some of these people weren't trained to do these things
I've have materials from many of the courses
that are out there and they're not even taught
the ages of the cells like Josh says
so there's a lot of interesting things going on
and even dad said it took him a year
to really understand what he was seeing
and he says I consider myself to be a pretty bright guy
dad was brilliant, all right?
He could do advanced math in his head
without showing work when he was 10
he was brilliant and if he took him a year
it's gonna take everyone else two years
people are taking a two day course
I found someone does a 12 hour course
and you can take it for a few hundred hours
buy a microscope on Amazon and you're now an expert
so it's a really interesting responsibility
or lack of responsibility
Adam why don't you talk speaking of equipment
you did a really great video on people not even looking
at their slides when there's no blood
Right, that's true
One of the first things we do
when we used to teach very few people
is you look at a blank slide
you never find a clean slide these days
and in fact the more you try to clean it
then you're adulterated even more
so yeah look at a blank microscope slide
and a cover slip
yeah and a cover slip
and you'll see what people are calling COVID crystals
everywhere
it's dirt on the slide literally
that was and I'll do this
I'll do the screen share
that was that Dr. Wendy Roscoe video that I came across
I forgot who sent it to me
Steve sent it to me here with us
and she said she's recreating
and she says I think this is dirt
and the microscopes are getting dirtier
even they say pre-cleaned on them, right?
Food for thought
so I'll show you images
and I have a whole bunch
I'll cruise through kind of quick
so you guys can see
and then Josh if there's anything in particular
you want me to share let me know
Well these are all pre-COVID images too
There is one thing I want to mention
is that in all these narratives
and in all the things
that sometimes people ask about the images
they are mixing images of samples that have been dry
and they say that are circuitry
and this is just a sample
that has been dried
and if you dry sailing or tears
or seawater or things like that
you are going to exactly find the same
exactly the same
so one thing is what you see
when you have dried the sample
and then they mix that with what they see
supposedly when the sample is still wet
and I don't know why they mix both things
and they create a whole story that connects both
when there are two things that are separated
one thing is something that has been dried
okay this is what you see
what do you see salt crystals
anybody can do that
anybody can find that circuitry
just drying anything that has a little bit of salt
doesn't matter if it's a tear is sailing
or whatever other thing
you you will find no doubt that circuitry
that they say that is not circuitry
That's a great example
because there are various crystal compounds
that resemble machinery or microcircuitry
I think bismuth also looks somewhat like that
right but you know we've seen these sodium chloride crystals
that have that appearance as well
and sugar that has appearance of rods
like big things very long things
absolutely the images they showed of nanocircuitry
yeah we're salty and on adam did studies
I saw it in my sauerkraut
when I would take some
drops from my sauerkraut
Fiona sees it in urine
and you guys did it in straight saline
and that's where it was
so but no it's nanocircuitry
that was jabbed into you right
and josh there are some biological crystals
that you can see in the blood
like uric acid crystals correct
well Mari's the one
I mean you can definitely see
certain things on that
we're seeing the aspergillus
we're seeing the actual different types
of fungus and bacteria growth in there
we can certainly go down the rabbit hole with it
but Mari will be able to give you
the scientific answer for that
the short answer would be yes
do we look at it no
yeah do we pay attention to it
you know I will look
I will be looking at patterns
but yeah uric things like uric acid
yeah no extreme cases you can see it
but the extreme cases we don't
like we all don't generally see these extreme cases
but if you do dry the blood
in certain constitutions
if you let the blood dry
it actually crystallizes
and starts to form these patterns
like feathery looking patterns
or whatever it may be
and then you start to see
the different type of fungal growth
and depending upon how it grows
how it patterns and dries out on the side
you can tell which type of
endogenous you know fungus
is in you know predominant in your system
that the microzyma is in your system
are pliomorphic tube
that's what's actually happening in your body
right
additionally I actually did a comparison
of the buffer solution
that the covid tests came in
you know those those rapid tests
it was the fluid that you would put in the rapid test
so I did a comparison
under the microscope dark field
to regular saline solution
and it was exactly the same
so anybody that was claiming
that there was nanobots
and they were swabbing the stuff in their nose
and all that stuff that's
that was basically saline crystals also
and I did it in several like
a lots of different now is this
you talking about the
the one that where the probe went all the way
to the back of the nose yes yes
and so this was the liquid medium
but did did you incubate the swab in it
I if there was anything embedded in the swab
in the swab it was just some
some of the swabs were just dirty
like they were just dusty and dirty
like there was nothing there was nothing
extraneous or
graphing what graphing wasn't there
or any of that it was just like dirt
like if you looked under the microscope
you'd see fibrous dark fibers
that type of thing
it looked like basically somebody just
like wiped it on wool kind of thing
it was just excess fibers
salts you know things like that
interesting
so I can show you guys pictures
now that I pushed the wrong button
and
the wrong button checked right out of this
I don't want to show these pictures
come on Andy
so what I'll show you is
you know I wasn't sure what to do
part of this is interesting Andy
because people have heard Josh Knight
have heard me talk about this
Josh a little bit Anna and I
and we get a little frustrated with it
you know it's amazing that
people will listen to people that talk
about fear that have had very little
experience versus people that are
not talking about fear with a lot of
experience
and we get a little you know we're
human so we get a little irritated
about some of this work so
when I was going to be here with you
I put a bunch of pictures
a part of it is just to show people
we have a bunch of pictures
we have tens of thousands of images
like this
so to show this
he did it again
it's got a good trick going on
I think Anna you may have to go in
there and give them a talk to do
that's so
so come over here and hang out with
you guys I don't understand
so we're also we're demonstrating you
know remote time travel
show up on the other camera feed
see he's injected himself in nanobots
push the shiny red button
okay I'm not going to push the shiny
red button
that's the exit sign
this
and he's the techie in our family
that's my job
all right I'm sure
well it's a generation you know
yeah it did with me that's for sure
all right
can you guys see this now
go let them go
there we go now we
now I brought it up for you
okay awesome
so we've got a few pictures from a
book this is 1989
which book was this one Josh
was this uh
that's blacker
this is blacker's book
which is based on enderline's work
this is awesome
and just as a side note
marie I just spoke with
Christine Jackson
Andy this woman is 92 years old
and she is the woman who
translated this book with maria
blacker
I just hoped her on the phone
she took some of those pictures
yeah so this 89
this this image there are two of
these that people are talking about
is what josh what were they
graphing potentially
those ones that I've seen
actually people who've been doing
the microscope for a long time
call them graphing
and that they were not there
initially on the slide
but they appeared overnight
which is either incompetent
microscopy or just a straight
out lie
so these will be there immediately
enderline talks about these in
the early 1900s
all right
either way here's a picture of them
from 1988
we see them all the time
it has nothing to do with graphing
I'm not going to talk about my
interpretation of what they are
I always say is these have been
documented for well over 100 years
right now
they did not just magically appear
overnight due to some solution
or jab yeah right
this is what we can you know
just by the date of that image
if that's you know something that
people call graphing
graphing wasn't invented in 1988
now I think I'm not sure that
graphing actually really exists
at all the way that it said to
but it definitely didn't exist in 1988
so and realize
yes this work is based on
enderline yeah who talked about
this in the early 1900s
and those specific cells there
yeah he has sketches of this
earlier works in the early 1900s
in the 30s and the 40s
there's sketches of this
yeah and this one
this one kind of came and went
a little quick initially
which was interesting
these images you know
these are the ones you see this
famous people with one of these
right behind her head
and this one we published in
Law of Attraction Magazine
Josh 9 in 2016
okay
but these images
these were the first ones
they were showing out of New Zealand
crazy images never before seen
I did the video Andy
I sent it to you
you said yep you're right
no one's going to want to hear it
and they didn't
they didn't
and I mean I shared it with people
that we all know
and I got yelled at by people on our sides
I don't know that people are
going to want to hear this tonight
but nevertheless like it's
important that we discuss this
because you know people are being
misled and and
you know I think the worst thing
is that the amount of fear
that this engenders
because if we really were infiltrated
with some
you know kind of nefarious technology
like this
I mean you know we should all be
very afraid
yeah yeah
and it's really
this is part of what we've always done
what dad has done
with the work that he did
there's no fear in what we talk about
all right
health your body is intelligent
it's doing what it's supposed to do
fear is is
is it sympathetic
or parasympathetic
we're not healing in fear
all right
we look at the blood
we see information
it's the body
helping us to understand
so we can do something about it
and work together with our body
so when we see these images
Andy being used to spread fear
this is when we get really frustrated
and I know people
that have had friends
that have had too much
EDT
chelation
to remove these things
which are not actually in the blood stream
people may be dead
there's two people that I know
that may actually have a friend who's dead
because of
over treatment
based on images
that have been misinterpreted
well it's an it's important to note here
as far as
some of the basic science
that has not been taught
even the old dark field
my cross has understood
capillary blood
right
and only one cell
can move through a capillary at a time
and look at how big those structures are
they're much bigger than a red cell
they're much bigger than a white cell
they cannot physically move
through a capillary
it's just not physically possible
right
so we talk about these
a lot of people call them artifacts
right they're dirt on the slide
and things like that
that's so
gosh to
to make that point
visually
let's just
point out
on this
this is a perfect slide
or this one
right now
look at
the diameter of one of those red blood cells
now maybe
yeah there's one at the top
where the cursor is
now look at
the diameter of this object
yeah
right now
this is air by the way
this is air
but I'm talking about the fiber
looking piece along the
the side of it right
but that's got to be at least
three to four red blood cells
wide
right in its width diameter right
and we know that a capillary
is actually narrower than a red blood cell
so now it's a miracle
that red blood cells get through the
capillaries
so but it's beyond
possible for this thing
to get through the capillary
yes it's just
just not physically possible
and it seems that a lot of
the dark field where
doesn't have been talked back
you know and this is just
basic science
science is not supposed to be a bad word
scientists could be bad
but science shouldn't be a bad word
so yeah some of these
some of these images that you know
we could call holograms
are are any of them
you know big enough under the
microscope that
they could be seen with the naked eye
if they were real physical objects
I haven't even tried to look to see
look at the top of the blood
I know we've seen it this way
yeah that's interesting
because you know something
around what like 500 microns
or something it should be visible
with the naked eye
like you could see fine hairs
for example
I'm just wondering because
you can see hairs
yeah you can see hairs
you can see
if you messed up and then
and the slide is dirty
you could see the dirt on the slide
yes
yeah the dirt you can certainly see
and the hairs are fine
because every once in a while
dad would have a real cool picture
and he'd bring it up
and he'd say you know what that is
then he would he would
blow on the slide
and then the hair would blow off the slide
he said it was a
it was a fun trick
but the holograms are elicited
by the refract
by the refraction of the
dark field condenser
so like when you take the slide out
you're you'll see maybe
bases
where there they are
but you're not going to
actually see the image
because again you're getting
you're getting a change in the light
coming through the condenser to see it
yeah they're not visible andy
with the bright field microscope
so to answer that question
I don't think we would be able to see
these with the naked eye at all
Umari if they're not visible
without the dark field
yeah it's it's not
well no no I mean
that's the kind of the point
I was trying to make that like
if they were real
you'd actually see them
coming out of the finger
with your naked eye
because of the side right
but obviously we don't see that
so you know these are
optical images
but they're not
physical images that we're seeing
right yes and this is where
things get interesting for us
you know I did try to have
Dr. Pablo Capra
I tried to get him to isolate
one of these holograms
we see white cells attached to them
something's there
but we we don't
we're not you know
we don't have the capacity for that
we don't have huge laboratories
and resources
we'd love to isolate one
at some point
and see what's going on there
if anyone's interested in helping
and part of the point as I was
showing is this
not to really
you know explain people
our interpretations
you know we do that
in our courses
to people who understand
you know the actual
philosophy behind our work
but you know we're
generally showing these
as just a way of letting people know
that what they've been labeled as
has been incorrect
it's scientifically incorrect
what people are talking about
even on the point Adam
show them the COVID crystals
in the center there
that's I wanted to see the
there's a couple different ones
this is air
this is an air pocket
and this is dirt
and I do have
I have a video of
a blotty blood guy
one of my local guys
who tells the world
that my dad was
our father was demented
and he's saying
we've never seen this before
this is brand new
it's a dirty slide guy
you know
I mean they're not even taking
a good drop of blood
and these images
Andy were harder for us to find
because we actually
take a good drop of blood
we really work hard to
not get air pockets
right and what
and what people may not
realize
and to correct me
if I'm wrong about this
but when you put
the drop of blood
on the slide
and cover it with the cover
slip that
blood kind of spreads out
and into a mono layer
or a thin layer
and as that's happening
if there's something physical
like dirt on the slide
it can disrupt the flow
and then
it can close around that area
and then an air bubble can form
by that simple process
yes and this is what the
Wendy Roscoe was demonstrating
you see her on that video
doing it live
and saying very
you know
innocently
I think this is dirt
and she's right
and anyone who's tried to put
one of those screen protectors
on your cell phone
you've experienced this yourself
right with those
impossible air bubbles
yes
I will literally take
six drops of blood
to like get the right spread
and know I didn't kill it
all right
and it will show
there's a few other images
but this is just air
and then we get into
yeah here's our nano circuitry
this is an image I took
we had stem cells
we were working with in Mexico
and we put some stem cells
on the microscope slide
and we went home
and the next day
the slide was still there
and we looked at this
and this is what was there
there was an actual video of it
this was 2015 as well
and I carried this around forever
Andy thinking
look at this
this is cool
and if you ever got close to me
I'd say hey look at this
needs to be studied
and that was when Anna
and I were sitting
looking at this
this visor substance
and saw that
and I went I've seen this
and I realized
I was wrong
this is not stem cells
and that's where Anna
being someone who's been involved
in real science
said let's look
I think it's the medium
and we started to look at other things
and that's when we saw
it's I mean
they're really cool
structures that are forming
you know
like you could make
you could make our work out of this
totally
and if I
well and if I was
you know
if I was
what's the word I'm looking for
if I was not who I am
I could scare everybody
with this
to make a ton of money
evil genius
if you were an evil genius
yes
these are these are images too
Andy from
Coincidentally Fiona
that works with us
is looking at urine
of the microscope
and she sees this
all right
this is urine
so we're seeing
different structures
all right
I really I'm curious
as to people that
saw all these things
in the blood
they really didn't look out
in the rest of the world
to see if anyone
else is seeing
anything similar
that's the point to notice
that we've seen this
in fluids
that did not come
from the human body as well
so like I said
I've looked at
sauerkraut juice
and seen those in there
you know the antelope
saline solution
so yes
right so
so I just want to
to say again
you cannot see
nano things
in a microscope
so this is not a nano
circuit
this cannot be a nano
circuit because
you wouldn't see that
and something that
is very obvious
and you said that before
you cannot say
what's the composition
of something because
of a picture
people sometimes
forget that
okay so there is no way
to see
what is that
or what is it made of
just the picture
no way you can see
this is a
a circuitry
made of
I don't know what
or the other is a hydrogel
made of graphene oxide
just with a picture
that doesn't make any sense
that's not science
there was one microscope
I just want to
back up
because
that's such an important
point
because I think a lot of
errors are made
because of assuming
that what you see
is some particular
type of substance
or molecule or chemical
and if we talk about
the field of analytical
chemistry
which is all about
being able to recognize
unknown constituents
of an unknown substance
what we're talking about here
it's an extremely
challenging undertaking
it is not
straightforward that
you just do a test
and it tells you
if this is in it
or that's in it
or the other thing
like for example
there is a
chemistry to develop
a protocol
to assess glyphosate
in vaccines
and it's a two week
preparation of the vaccine
to get to the point
where you can
test for glyphosate
right that's just one chemical
in a mixture
that's a known chemical
that you're looking for
so what if
you don't know
what you're looking at
right it's
it's not very easy
and we've referenced
several scientists
that may not be well known
out there today
Baysham
Gunther Enderlein
and Gaston Nesans
and they used a lot of microscopy
in their research
and found
things in the blood
that hadn't been described before
I mean
at least Baysham did
and then the other scientists
described it
subsequently
but they
actually did experiments
to show what
you know
the functionality
and the composition
of what they saw visually
they didn't just
you know
assume it was x y or z
right they
they tried to study it
and figure out what it is
and learned
quite a bit
but you know
here we're talking about
many many assumptions
and not
really realizing
how difficult of a problem
it is to identify
an unknown substance
and I want to say something more
because
some people have asked me
and what about that report
that is notarized
and I just want to
say out loud
that I go to a notary
and I say
this is what I am doing
I'm putting this sample
a vaccine
or an anesthetic
or whatever
in the
in the microscope
I take pictures
the notary is just taking notes
and I say
and then I do the interpretation
I want
about what I'm seeing
and the notary is just
taking the note
that I have said this
that doesn't transform that
into a truth
the fact that a notary
is just saying
that I have said that
doesn't mean
that science is saying
that that is a truth
the notary is just taking the note
that you have said that
period
so there is no validation
in a notarized report
by someone
because I'm a little bit tired
of that too
that people say
oh but the notary has said
that the notary cannot say
if that is true
or not
the notary is just saying
that this person has done that
and this person claims
this is it
period
so it's amazing
the amount of strange situations
that happen around this
yeah
yeah definitely
this is
this is pretty straight forward
sorry I'll just make it real quick
because then you can lead into this
Adam
yeah I mean if you're
if you have a dark field microscope
and you don't know who
underline
based champ or nasances
somebody should come and take your
microscope away
this is a very foundation
and one person said
oh the bigglesons just don't know
about nanotechnology
this was a live cell researcher
and it's like
it's true
I use a microscope
not a nanoscope
so
but luckily we have Dr. Oliva
who worked in the nanotechnology lab
so sorry
yeah and the other thing is that
you cannot just say
again I'm sorry
but but it's
people say
they see something
they don't know what it is
and they get a word
that already exists
has a different meaning
and not only use this word
but they also
give them some properties
that that thing has never had
there is no such thing
as a self-replicant hydrogel
I'm sorry
that doesn't exist
you can have self-replicating
beings
or you can have hydrogel
you don't have
you can have self-assembling
hydrogels in a totally different
thing that what they are showing
because this is a different technology
yes you can have hydrogels
that in touch with certain pH
or temperature
they change the shape
this is something that happens
but there is no such thing
as self-replicating hydrogel
so this idea that those things
that are there
first of all they are called hydrogels
when that's a word that means
a different thing
second because of they are there
and I have a mindset
I have a context
of whatever has been my previous
research
I cannot put that context
everywhere I go
yeah
okay this is something we do
you have only that knowledge
and you go with your backpack
and every time you see something
you put that context
but this thing you are seeing
has a different context
you cannot
and this is the main problem
in science is the context
in which you are interpreting the thing
so you are putting a name
that already exists
and has a different meaning
you are adding some properties
that that thing doesn't have
and then
if you if you really believe
that this is a hydrogel
that these self-replicants
show me the proof
and sorry
you haven't tried that
you cannot just say
oh because in my context
if it exists something
like morguellons fibers
now means that this is it
no you have to demonstrate that
you cannot do this assumption
it's a terrible gap
that you are trying to fill
just with something that
is not right
a test de-generalization
right so again
it's just a proposition
of what you know
onto something of what you don't know
and josh said
thank you for explaining
do you guys think that
there's this like
general kind of perception
that the government has
advanced technologies
that they haven't disclosed
and that they're using
this kind of hidden
advanced technology
in these devices
I mean what
yeah absolutely
absolutely
but I tell you
if you do a real research
a serious research
I tell you
because I've been doing that the last four years
this is something that I love
and they go there and say
okay what is the last
thing that has happened
with the graphene oxide
can we do a brain
computer interface
with graphene oxide
no
can we do
no it's true
can we have a brain
computer interface
through a vaccine
no
so it's like
okay you
you want to create a narrative
in which you are scared
of the transhumanism
I am scared of the transhumanism
is one of my favorite topics
to research
okay I know a lot about that
that's what I'm all the time on top
all the time on top of the research
what is happening
where are we
we still have to put chips
we need to insert chips
can be bigger
can be smaller
can we put them through an injection
well it has to be local
it cannot be through a vaccine
so even in the worst scenario
in which you believe
that there is a super high technology
that I believe there is
super high technology
ready to screw us
sorry for the expression
this is
you can blame Adam
that is the one I've learned the worst from
when we
get the technology
that
puts something in
and the body doesn't reject it
be it knee replacement
hip replacement
a tooth implant
when we get the technology
where you could put something artificial
in the body
and not reject it
then maybe perhaps
something like that can
we can move through next level
we can't even get
non-rejection
from our own organs
like you can't get a liver
transplant without taking
immunosuppressants
from your human
so imagine
how are you going
how is the body
going to accept something artificial
I mean you get a splinter
in your toe that's wood
which is actually more biological
and your body rejects it
so our body actually wants to reject
that which doesn't actually connect with it
and going back to what you were saying
which I think is a really good point
about superimposing
and generalization goes into
you know what
what are we seeing in the blood
what do we know
again if you have a microscope
just as Josh said
and you haven't studied
Enderland-Bachampar Gaston
what you're seeing is going to be fantastic
but what you're seeing is
microzymas replicating
what you're seeing is
microzymas changing form
what you're seeing is
what they've been seeing for decades
if not for centuries
these are all
has been happening
it continues to happen
and science has
has not even touched the toenails
of what the body can naturally do
what's inside of us
what's around us
and the awesome power
of the biology that we have
so people can think
that the government figured it out
but they haven't even figured out
how to get a satellite
to stay up in space
well and I want to real quick
let me talk about this last image here
so I can shut this down
because all I'm seeing is my blood
I don't see any of you guys
this is the last one
this is what we were showing
these are your nanobots
right
no these are the things we've seen forever
these little guys to us
just real quick
microzymas
symbionts
somatids
row home right called them biomes
these are your nanobots
these are nature's nanobots
that help us to create who we are
and help us to decompose
there is nothing more beautiful
than this as far as we're concerned
people in front of this
it's just not nano right there
so in that image
just to clarify for
the audience who may not
all know this
we're talking about the little
bright dots
that are moving around in the field
and in simplistic terms
I like to describe them
as a microbial stem cell
because they're kind of like these
indestructible
particles that can become
any type of microorganism
from bacteria to
fungal
and maybe even
multi-stallular organisms
I'm not sure
yes yes yes
it's there
they're amazing things
and you guys wanted a more
read dad's book
look intubation up
nason's
underline these types of things
this is what our courses are about
and wait you have to
say come to the conference adam
dad
I would love to say that
right because this is going to be
discussed
at least in
Dr. Arsé's presentation
probably in
in your guy's presentation as well
oh yes
yes dad
what's the name of the conference
and what are the dates
we'll put the link in the show notes
yes
Terrainology
you can go to terrainology.com
it's September 26th through 28th
in Westchester, New York
it's going to be awesome
and you're going to be speaking there too
right Andy
yeah
everyone in this panel
will be speaking at that event
so
and we love to meet you
and have further discussion
and uh
don't bring Adam and Josh
any slides though
yeah
don't ask us these questions
of what
and that's awesome
I'll just finish up on that there
those little particles there
single most important thing
I think that we view
in the actual microscope
and with Antoine Baychamp
who really was the father
of Cleomorphism
he first discovered these
in the dark field of microscope
although
ancients have talked about
these particles we believe
for for centuries
they've been around
they've been
they've been seen
for generations
and generations
they are not nanobots
okay that is
that is just offensive
when I hear that
all right
we do have schools in that drop
that are teaching that people
that they are parasites now
that is just as offensive to me
all right
so
you can debate our interpretations
but you can't debate
as these things have been around
since
since the first person had a dark field
microscope
they are not new
they are not nanobots
and they are not parasites
either people
sorry
right
and like Annie said
if you want to learn more
come to our event
terrainology
it's going to be a nice event
you know when Josh and I
talk about this stuff
it's dad's holographic blood book
it's an easy book to read
if you guys want to find this book
all right
and we don't get rich off books
I'm not here to just make a bunch
of money off this stuff
we put together the event
with you Andy
because we want to do a coherent event
you know people want to know
what to do
they get sick
there is an emergency
an accident
and you can say all right
you don't have to go to the hospital
right off the bat
settle down
this is why you need to go to the hospital
and we get into Tofer
talking about the soil and the earth
and the biochar
and how it's related to our bodies
and we get Clinton Zimmerman
Naturopath
who's one of the few
Bach flowers certified people
in the United States
or the world I think Josh
going to talk about the soil
and the plants
and the soul of the plants
then we got
who's next on that one
you Anna
you're going to talk about
how our
why do we think we ended
our fingertips
when party respiratory systems
in the tree over there
so we go from the soil
to the soul
after Anna
you'll get Dr. Marisol
she'll be talking about
what's going on
with inside us
yes
or her book you can learn
about that one right
terms are not
our enemy
then is my talks about
she'll talk about the isopathics
a little bit
what's going on in the body
in relation to what everyone else
has talked about
and Josh now wrap it all up
showing the blood
and bringing it all together
from the soil to the soul
it's really going to be fun
Andy
I'm looking forward to it
and the presentations
are going to be nice
and coherent
as opposed to some of those events
we've been to
where
one is talking about one
and the other is talking
about the exact opposite
so
D. Lee
less confusion at this event
will be fun right
which is why I haven't gone
to a lot of those fans Andy
haha
yeah
yes well very much looking forward
to uniting with all of you
and you know
really talking about
some very interesting things
that we put in perspective
without any fear
mongering and
and we seriously vet
all this material
through a lot of the principles
we discussed today
validation
reproducibility
meticulous procedures
and you know years of experience
so
we aim to share that with you
let me just
go around
and allow you guys to give
any closing thoughts
on this topic
and mention
where people can find out
more about your work
cool
why don't you start Marisol
oh
sure um
go
so yeah
good one sentence sir
what's a good one sentence
no it's it's basically
when you
when we look at information
we have to use something
called common sense
I know it's not that common
but you know try to work on it
and the idea is
actually incorporate
some critical thinking
try to find out information
from various sources
not just go
oh this one feels
like it fits the narrative
of what I think is happening
in the world
so I'm gonna
I'm gonna use that
instead why don't you just
think about how about
hmm I don't know
pick up the holographic book
take a course
at the Living University of
Terrain
read my book
and learn about the history
do something
that maybe opens up your mind
and understand that
it's not quite possible
that there's
all this fear
and that your body
is going to be subjected
to these things
and you have no control
the idea is
everything's in your control
and you just have to
understand and learn
a little bit more
oh and
in my website sorry
terraindoctor.com
is where you can find me
and you can find my book
germs are not our enemy
DACA
all right
Anna
okay so
I just want to reinforce
idea that
you cannot see
none of things
with a microscope
that you cannot
know the composition
of something
by seeing a picture of it
that you cannot
change the meaning
of words
that already exist
and that's only with
the composition
that has been declared
in these injections
could be enough
to say no way
to put that
in my body
and we don't need to say
anything else
okay
and
that's it
and you can find me
but most of my material
is in Spanish
I just created a new
podcast that is
the butterfly pathway
butterfly pathway
that is mine
yes
the butterfly pathway
yeah the butterfly pathway
let's see if I can
record more things
in English
please
and I'll just
bring in a farce
that last thing
she said yes
it's a microscope
you can't see
these are these are forms
of measurement
you can't see
nano of micro
it's that simple
the second part of it
is all these images
that people are showing
with dark field
did not just magically
happen right now
these have been around
ever since somebody
looked into a dark field
microscope
they are not new
you know
while we have our
own interpretations of them
we do not teach that
to everybody
we have 13 week courses
you can take
and after that
you might be able to
take a blood basics course
where we teach you
the basics
of how to read the blood
the basics which is
obviously not being taught
by most of the live cell
community
how to take a drop of blood
what a red cell looks like
there's not 17
different types of red
blood cells
okay
they are
one red cell
decomposing
different ways
but now there's
all these fancy names
so sorry to rant
on that
we will not teach everybody
once you understand
the philosophy of what
we're teaching
and we realize
that we can get along
and you have a brain
that works properly
then we're happy
to teach the basics
so sorry to put it
blunt
but uh
yeah obviously
we're hoping not to
really bring up the subject
too much again
on the future
Andy
this
this our video here
should be a great resource
for people
if they have questions
but yeah
to put it simply
you can't see nano
with micro
and josh
where do people find out
more about your 16
week course
before you kick them out
for not being smart enough
I should clarify that
well I'm not this hard
you know
the work is so
I'm just kidding
no listen
it's important
to vet people
because
you know not look
medical school
has an application
process for a reason
right? Not everyone's
cut out to do everything
so
um
you know
but it's good
that you make
the basic information
accessible to everyone
you know
irrespective
of their
natural abilities
or proclivities
yeah absolutely
that there's a very
basics
that have not been
taught out there
and it's funny
you brought it up
because dad would say
this work is so simple
that even I could
figure it out
all right
so and it's just
about observing patterns
but you have to
understand what you're
looking at first
before we can
make false conclusions
you know so the
courses are great
they explain the science
behind it
they explain how nature
works
and then there's a very
basic blood course
that we do for
for certain people
because
we've seen
you know part of what
we're trying to do
is protect our father's
legacy
and we've seen
where the road is gone
with dark field
microscopy
you know
and it's really been
an embarrassing for us
you know
where we don't
really want to be
associated with that
but we do want to
make sure the right
people
are doing the right
type of
you know
of science
you know
it's just pattern
and all the courses are
in the university
of terrain
dot com
yes
Adam say all that
I'm getting better at
you know
we got to repeat it
so people
people remember it
and type it in
yes
we're very bad at
the marketing thing
Andy
this is usually
where our mother
comes out of the
webinar
and says
tell them about the books
so
yes
thank you for that
and it is
it's part of
it's a little
unfortunate
you know
we have done
some training courses
previously
nobody that
we've worked with
is anyone we
would endorse
so if anyone's saying
they've learned from us
you know
I don't know who you are
let's have a conversation
potentially
but the reality
is this
after what we've seen
people doing
with the microscope
over the last four years
we're going to teach
less
you know
we really
and I've fought
with Josh
about this
I want this information
out there
you know
but the reality is
like you said
we need to
qualify people for this
guys
if you got a microscope
there's a big
responsibility
that comes with this
you can look at a drop
of blood
and take the hope
away from somebody
so quickly
and that's not good
for their health
and you scare them into
unnecessary treatments
you know
anyone that's got a microscope
that's had one of these
trainings
you really need to think
about what you're doing
and a couple other things
real quick
I did find a microscope
once Andy
that's
does
spectrum analysis
it's $250,000
if someone wants to
buy one for us
we'd love to play with it
and the guy that
talked to Josh
about it
was proud that
his clients
were Pfizer
and Moderna
right
but even so
spectrum analysis
you know
remember I said
quote once
visible light
yeah
which is the least
what's the
least reliable
of all these types
of analyses
this is what I've heard
not that I've
done anything
but
expensive microscope
is one thing
and it was one of the
things I was going to say
but it disappeared
so I guess it's
oh yeah
I can't remember
who said this first
but I can show you
a picture of
my glass of water
and tell you
what's water
about how do you know
it's not vodka
or gin
you can't do this
analysis from these images
all right
and I really
I do believe
that people are always
trying to help
okay
because I'm that guy
I I want to help people
so as much as
I am irritated
and frustrated
with how much fear
has been
spread on our side
of the fence
it's the same thing
it's so funny
on both sides of the fence
fear
do something
without thinking about it
our work is easy
dad said
it's not rocket science
even Josh can understand it
and as we joke about it
it's Josh didn't go to
college
so he didn't have to
unlearn so many things
yeah
all right
but
in the end we really
Josh and I enjoy what we do
we educate
and empower people
so they can learn to take
charge of their healthcare
and
you can find out more
with dad's books
type up our last name
Biggelson
you'll find dad
on guy MTV
on coast to coast
with George Norrie
he was on Dateline
in the 90s
and things like that
but we really
enjoy
sharing this with people
when we do our courses
our webinars
we're really happy to do
that stuff
so at this point
thank you for
helping us
be focused
with delivering
this information today
because most of the time
for Josh and I we go
and then who knows
what comes out of our mouths
for people listening
we really
understand fear
we've seen a lot of it
and if we can do
things to alleviate it
if you don't have to
worry about
graphene hydrogel
nanotech
isn't life
get a little easier
for you
so anyway
thanks for having us on
Andy appreciate it
well I really
loved this discussion
today
and I think
we have
you know
done quite a lot
to mitigate
some of the fear
that you may be
experiencing
worrying about
this claims
of all kinds of machines
and nefarious technology
in your blood
and we did it
just by
really a calm
and rational
logical analysis
recognizing that
one
these images
are not new
that people are
you know
misinterpreting
as scary things
they've been around
long before
the alleged
technology
that they're claimed
to be even
existed
and that
there are a number of ways
to interpret
what we see
under the microscope
and it
takes very careful
consideration
experience
and wisdom
to
you know
get it right
or
even get it
close to right
so
you know
everyone
look into this
further
please
always do
your
your own work
take advantage
of the resources
of all
these wonderful
and knowledgeable
folks
have given you
and
draw your own
conclusions
I look forward to seeing you
next time
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